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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- I mean yea, beach volley ball with the good ol' Limbus is fun... But like damn, that speech she gave about the great lake was terrifying yet also the most hype thing in Limbus Company. I cannot wait for Chapter 5 to be out, I need it, now.
Yi Sang: I cannot say I am particularly talented in games of the ball variety
The Limbus Soccer Team says otherwise
Ideal! Ideal!!!
Plot twist that was Sang Yi
Heathcliff is coming for that forward position with that cannon of a right leg.
Do you want to score goals? Victoriously?
tbh I love the idea of Gregor not being able to say no to Don when she's super excited about something. Really gives him the dad energy
Yi Sang saying hes not good at ball based sports is straight up a LIE.
Given the IDEAL's ideal performance.
This is HIS game
My man just wiped the floor with Rhodes island
Ideal! IDEAL!!!
Yi sang ballin 💀
Heathcliff fascinates me more with each passing day. He is simple... but not dumb.
He might not realize he cares, maybe he does not want to, but cant help it. He is a person who wont sit here waiting for someone to "do something" when situation was wrong - hell he'd get mad for people holding back from doing "the thing". And he gets especially restless when situation involved tension in air, showing he's tuned yo emotional empathy.
All sinners seem to be complete misfits - but they can resonate through their flaws. Don and Heath both share impulsive instinct to act upon whats right, without thinking consequences. Passive YiSang values joys in sights and fragrances, bliss from seeing smiles and peace on people's faces, like lively, steadfast Rhodya. Even sociopathic Meaursault seems to speak common language with Faust when it comes to logic.
For ishmael, heathcliff seems to find common language with her pretty much exactly when they both display resentment. Both Ish and Heath have deep, deep grudges - and when they show their worst, they are on same wavelenght. Both so isolated from other sinners as 'outcasts', they may sunconsciously perceive each other as the one person they "have something in common with". This connection is important - bonds are born from understanding.
I also started reallizing that heath is indeed a romantic in disguise, speaking of emotions coming from the primal source. I'm sure he walked in on the conversation to tell Ish that she's overreacting because he DOES care, HOWEVER, she touched the one deepest wound that he could not let go. First, He quietly, sharply, growly warned her to cease with this eerily tone-less, cold voice - so unlike his usual self - and when she continued, he just saw pure red. He threw hinself at her with fists - not to kill, with weapon, but as pure display of unbridled rage.
In the book, he's been adopted into a rich family and raised into a posh, noble man. He and daughter of the family fell in love with each other... however, pressured, despite feeling love to him, she rejected him and married another rich guy.
In book, Heath devoted his whole life into revenge: marries into the other family and gain influence, slowly taking control to bring both families to ruin, trying to hurt his former lover by taking away everything, even her childrens' happiness, so that they may never be together with who they love.
Unlike book Ahab who never faced reallization that it was his own obsession that caused the crew to die, and to the very death pinned all blame on a tangible "monster", (ultimately dying thanks to his own harpoon shot at the whale, its line tangled around his leg and thus dragging him undertone); Heathcliff seems perfectly aware that he is responsible for the destruction wrought. He merely seems to truly believe that betrayal he experienced absolves him from fault, the revenge he enacts being "rightfully deserved".
This ALSO leads to my speculation that Heathcliff actually knows etiquette and all the posh stuff - he just resents it so much he does not want to be associated with it ever again, preferring the life of a street outcast.
You are now imagining Heathcliff clean, combed and in a suit. You're welcome.
I'm wondering if in LC, the Earnshaw family is a Syndicate family. Would line up with how book Heathcliff was pushed more into a servant role by Hindley, except in this universe it leads him to the Syndicate Wrecker life.
I love Ishmael saying they should study the whale's characteristics because that's what you do in some chapters of her book lmaoooo, I love that reference
Also "Cath" from Heathcliff is about "Catherine", but don't get spoiled. I think I know what role she will have for Canto VI and ooooh boy
@@randomcatgirl how did it go
@@neonintention How so? I kinda was right because the image in the TGS Trailer showed that someone was dead, but I didn't except all of that xD
Meant that did your theory go well with Cathy
@@neonintention Yes, kinda, but I didn't except that xD
17:28 Poor Yi Sang, just managed to move past the trauma of his old friend group breaking apart only for his new one to start tearing each other apart again.
It is, however, unlike last time. Past league broje due to them ignoring each others deep, dark feelings. These two claw into scabs of their scars, so the scars are not hidden or ignored.
Its good to argue to point of break up with your friends, if the reason is trying to force them to open up anout what they really think. Distancing yourself from mildly inconvenient things is how you make smallest wounds fester, cracks deepen. Friendships break over lack of connection far more often than gdrudges - and latter is prevented if you dont drop the topic until it is resolved.
Heathcliff is surprisingly caring for others. In chapter 4 he saves Gregor by kicking him out of explosive robot range. He also tells Dante to prioritize healing Don before him after the said explosion.
Beneath his hardass mask he is a caring person, even towards Ishmael. I'm 100% sure that the two of them will properly make up their differences over the course of their chapters.
Something that points to this is that his EGO passive needs other sinners to trigger it.
Personally, sometimes I can only describe Heathcliff as, well, he would've been a good person. If not for the trauma he'd gone through, the city probably beating him down, and his anger issues, I think he would've been a good person (albeit one with a shitton of ego).
This just in: British man is a big tsundere, hiding caring facade behind anger issue. More at 11.
Apparently in his novel he was a pretty chill dude he just had....alot of rough days
Seeing Don's hopes and dreams get crushed 15 separate times this event was unexpected. All the poor girl wanted to do was play some beach bally burrrr with her friends but mom and dad keep fighting :(
Haha this game is fun... my mom and dad is talking about divorce.....
Heath and Ish are *NOT* Mom and Dad material.
They're more like 2 strays that started following you and kinda just stuck around.
We need Don's chapter soon to deal with this
i hope after all this is done and over with, the gang get to play a good match of beach volliberrr.
The more PTSD a sinner accumulated, the more delicious their golden bough gonna be when Vergilius turn it into salad.
Holy shit, that Heathcliff line diliverly on saying that he and Ish are the same. I don't even know what the emotion behind it is. Sympathy that someone holds the same rage? Disappointment, that he thought people could be better? Just bitterness and Sadness? And Ishmael seeing her own face in a pudle and just recoing from it in horror.
Holy shit
P.S.: Yi Sang doesn't need to be taugh about games of the Ball variety, he almost took the 4Chan cup home, so he is good.
Maybe the one who played football (or soccer for Americans) was Sang Yi?
Remember, Heath also possesses something of an inferiority complex, and the line could mean that he is dissapointed that Ish out of all people is the same as him. In other words, its probably a combo of concern, dissapointment and probably even coming from a place of understanding/sympathy
@@PinkOrangeOrangePinkLimbus Heath has “inferiority complex” as one of his particulars though
I think Heathcliff perhaps saw Ishmael as a Catherine figure for him, perhaps not particularilly a love interest, but someone that he cares for and wants to be better than him, but, according to both of their pasts, they aren’t that different at all; Both were broke, both had jobs for higher ups in the City (Ishmael was a fixer, Heath was a Syndicate member.) Both lost something important and hold grudges.
@@WiseViper39 It reminds me a bit of Roland watching Angela throughout Ruina, hoping that she would Show him a Alternative to his self-destructive path only to not do that. And she actully does afterall, it and the realisations push him to do the same.
For as hostile and edgy Heathcliff is, he really does care for everyone goddamn. I fully expect Canto 5 to reveal that the whale is already dead and it casues Ish to distort and be the final boss of that chapter.
Nah I expect that happen in 2nd arc (after first 13 chapters happened)
Spec ops style? Gods, i can totally see it.
Final boss Ishmael? I would LOVE to see that. The angst potential is through the ROOF.
And yeah, Heathcliff definitely has that softer side. We got hints in his N Corp and Shi cards and earlier in the story, but now it really seems like he at least has faith in the Limbussy Gang and wanted Ishmael to be more than he was.
Man Don got a real short end of the stick this time. Props to her va, you could really hear Don's crushed dreams when the ball pops ;-;
Seeing don and yi sang agree on playing is heartwarming as it is surprising
Ishmael is definitely living her best life at the moment
Ishma is definitely the Gebura of this group, Lobcorp Gebura, pre realization to be exact.
This is the happiest she’s been, totally
Just wait until we fight the sheep and a windmill
My pe theacher alwaus said to never kick the volleyball this is fucking why
Also i think when ishmael says that bastard has to be alive still i think she might be meaning someone else and not the whale
If anyone ever gets a roland ID, it BETTER FUCKING BE HEATHCLIFF.
Seriously, that whole moment at the end of the confrontation where he talks about how dissapointed he is in ishmael for being just like him and everyone else in the city was oozing roland energy. Not to mention, he has wife issues.
1000% agree with you
Let Heathcliff get the Roland ID and make my wallet dry because of it😅
Bleed my lunacy stash dry for Heathcliff in a suit
Roland Screams Gregor than Heath tbh.
@@RinrinFran im agree with you😅 but heath is my bias🙏
nah, I see what you're seeing, but it's only on a superficial level. They're both war veterans that hide their ptsd with a carefree facade, but thats as far as their similarties go.
We don't know heath's full story yet, but it's clear that he's a character with a lot of layers. He had someone he's loved and he's lashing out at the world for being sick with a bat labeled "revenge," but he clearly wants to see someone else make a change in the city that he believes himself incapable of doing. The fact that he's also often paired with another woman in a friendly rivalry with whom he places his expectations on is icing on the cake.@@RinrinFran
Honestly I'm really loving the event, outside drama notwithstanding. Ishmael and Heath are on point here, both coming from frustrating but really understandable positions. Ishmael is SUPER pissy this event, but it makes sense, she clearly has a lot of trauma from her time on the sea, and truth be told, the sea is a terrifying place to be, even when you aren't dealing with horrific sea monsters and tuna tsunamis. Her trepidation and anger here make perfect sense, but so too does the genuine care that Heath seems to have for his allies. He's grown a lot over these last few chapters, and while I don't think our group fully regard each other as friends, I feel like Heath has attached to them a lot more than he lets on. I think when Ishmael insinuated that everyone is only here for themselves, that really hurt him, because I imagine he probably doesn't hold many people that close, and the sinners are probably the closest thing he currently has to family.
As for other character highlights, Yi Sang is absolutely precious this event, poor baby trying to get mom and dad to stop fighting, I stg he must be protected. Don continues to be a light for the group and Beach Volleyburr is my new favorite limbus quote. Outis is always on point with the ass-kissing but continues to show that she has an incredibly broad spectrum of valuable talents, and as angy as our little fish is right now, I think it was genuinely heartwarming that Ishmael offered herself and Outis as mentors to help Dante be more self-sufficient. The group really should be more cautious of Dante's mortality, and I wouldn't be surprised if our safety ends up being a major concern next chapter.
Ishmael in her rant describing the horrors of what the great lake is sounds eerily familiar to how one group of sailors died with the exception of one survivor after investigating islands the group came across in Call of Cthulhu. What if the next chapter starts off with the Moby Dick story as scattered journal entries the Sinners come across before it devolves into a H.P.Lovecraft horror journey halfway through? It would explain why Ishmael talks about the sea as this horrifying spot and why killing off the whale is so important.
This is highly irrelevant and just me noticing weird stuff. There is something interesting here with the dynamic between the two beaches mirroring how beaches in very touristy areas often work. The good parts with the soft sands and clean waters, all that typical beach experience can just be locked behind an entry fee if a resort decided that they want it for themselves. Technically, all citizens of the country can use the beaches but sometimes there are areas where private businesses can cordon it off and lock it behind an entry fee. What we see in The City is more an extreme and perverse version of that
Yi Sang up until Canto 4: *Die*
Yi Sang after Canto 4: *Live*
i feel like mentioning whales abilities to fuse with things when they talked about tuning fork,
"that bastard" and him likely being alive is likely to be games version of Fedallah who gave Ahab his death's prophesy,
part of wich came true when Ahab saw him dead tied by harpoon ropes to the Moby Dick itself in the final encounter
The Heathmael shippers are FED with this event holy shit the enemies to whatever energy is at its peak we are FEASTING
Also fyi, the 'Cath' Heathcliff mentioned is Cathy, or Catherine Earnshaw. In Wuthering Heights, Heathcliff and Cathy had a mutually obsessive and destructive romantic affair until Cathy went off to marry a rich man, pushing Heathcliff to devise a plan to destroy her, her family, her marriage, and the children born of her marriage with the other man.
When Ishmael jabs at Heathcliff for 'whining about his girlfriend', she's referring to Cathy, however she might be in Limbus.
... We've seen her in illustrations from the TGS promo trailer. Limbus Cathy seems to be a redhead, just like Ishmael is. Make of this info whatever you'd like lmao
Wait what ?! They did revealed Cathy ?? I didn't know about this, Gotcha dig some fast
@@yuhaohue3914 for a split second, when the illustrations for each cantos are flashing- heathcliff is at a graveyard and it's someone's funeral, and among the crowd there's a redheaded woman turning to look at him over her shoulder, and many people assume that that's Cathy!!
For all Ishmael's fears, I do believe in the bus's plot armor. Not because we as Dante have to live and see more of the City's fuckery, but because Vergilius wouldn't allow danger to come near Charon. So watch this: when we take off, it'll be so calm the only storm would be Ishmael torn apart by the question of "HOW?".
Vergilius isn't invincible
@@warnertesla8297 What's important is that he neglects any dangers the Sinners face and doesn't act on his assumed "invincibility". Which means it's never bad enough for him to intervene.
@@warnertesla8297 Whale isn't invincible too
Verg just has to ball hard enough and it will be fine
@@SaniaPH-ACR I have no idea how a Color Level Fixer stands up against a giant... whatever the heck the Whale is, if its an Abnormality or someone Distorted to all hell, but I can see Vergilius briefly intervening in Canto V.
To be honest, i think Dante training arc would be epic
cant believe heathcliff used upheaval on ishmael
Ishmael: *lists every reason to be afraid of the ocean*
Tsunul: "Nah that makes me want to go there even more!"
Damn it PM. They really know how to tug at your heartstrings.
They made you root for Yi Sang when he intervenes to defuse the argument from earlier and when he shows interest in bonding with the Sinners in the volleyball game, showcasing his growth from chapter 4.
Which only makes this confrontation between Ishmael and Heath even more painful when he remarks that he has to watch yet another group of fellows fight amongst each other, as if history was repeating itself again.
I felt so bad for Yi Sang in this scene man, I legit wanted to give him a hug.
I remember seeing his creations cause people to smile was a fond nemory. Perhaps he wishes to see them happy so he'd procure gifts.
Fr when I read his dialogue I said out loud "aw, poor buddy!" like I was talking to a sad puppy.
I'm really interested to see what Ishmael is so afraid of especially since she's seen what the sinners can do firsthand and is still this cautious whatever it is it will probably be the sinners toughest battle yet.
Uh yeah All of us still would get no diffed by Iori tbh
I hope it won't be the case as Kromer fight, were no matter how unbelievably hard we dunk on her(2 turn kills moment), we still canonically lose
I wanna actually hard fight in the story chapters for once, not just "Oh well you lose anyway lmao"
@@SaniaPH-ACR we have Child of Galaxy True form aka Demian clapping the Whale in case we lose anyways lol
Why do i have a feeling that the crew gets eaten by a whale and that Heath is the one to save Fishmeal.
Can see him beating up a seemonster from the inside since hes up in Canto 6.
Forget Moby Dick, we're going all Phinnochio lets gooo
gift of prophecy
Yi Sang will never ball:
Yi Sang:
Can't wait for it too, it seems every chapter PM slowly forcing Dante to act more and more.
that would be just hilarious If they're sea journey will be fine without any kind of chaos. And then it'll turn out that there was no whale but singularity that works on people's mental sufferings thus creating some wacky stuff like the whale that Ishmael won't shut up about. She'll be completely destroyed
I love Heathcliff's performance for this chapter. Every line was spoken as if the actor himself was in the situation. Its so raw like that.
On another note Yi Sang's reaction to Heath and Ish fighting got really close to home for me. IDK why.
SO REAL
Oh fr him and Ishmael's VAs need MASSIVE fucking raises for how they knocked it out of the park in this event.
Can't believe KJH put a gun to Ishmael's VA's head to give her real panic attack
I think the funniest part of the Volley Burrr scene is the dynamic between the music, Yi-Sang, Don, and Ishy.
My second favorite scene from this event.
Wonder if there'll be some... WHITE - WHALE, HOLY - GRAIL!!! Wonder if it's the whale or her former captain Ishy wants to kill.
What if....the Ahab merged with the whale and became one?
I really love Yi Sang in this chapter the most. He starts to be active and responsive with the group, trying his darn best to calm his new compatriots. It's nice to see him gotten some life back.
On the other hand, I don't like Ishmael so much just because of how she's being a debby downer here (I know she's traumatized and all, but shit even Gregor doesn't go and bring others feeling shit)
And I can't wait to meet this giant whale as well, seeing massive creatures is just awesome in general.
I like seeing that moment at the end of the episode where Dante steped up and try to resolve the situation it makes me wonder what kind of leader he will be at the end of the story.
Ishmael: Esta vez podríamos morir de verdad tenemos que prepararnos
El resto: A jugar Volleyball 🗿🏐
Wait did Ishmael just mentions how Heathcliff talks about Cathy alot?
What happened to them? Like did Heathcliff ran away after a Misunderstanding like in the books?
Plus this is the first time Cathy is actually mentioned in-game iirc.
This whole bit really does show why Ishmael's Snagharpoon is fueled by Gloom and Wrath, and why Compulsion, it's passive, works the way it does (powering Ishmael up in helpful situations but making her worse in bad ones).
anyone ever noticed how the trout population really lowered since last october?
2:32 I 100% agree with you on this. It’s probably a mix of knowing each other for 8months and Ismauel REALLY freaking out, and also I think Health is, while crazy, not heartless
My guess for next chapter is that Ishmeal gonna morp(distortion or gain complete EGO) I call it here
I loved this event, I don't care what the salty and horny fans say, this was good
Ishmael’s VA ate and left no crumbs
HeathMael fans despairing…
Total crack theory but it’d be cool if Ishamael’s not seeking vengance on the white whale but maybe captain ahab for putting her and the rest of the now deceased crew. Maybe Ahab did a really stupid decision or willingly sacrificed them on to kill the whale himself or some shit idk lol
Heathcliff is now my #1 Tsundere
yi sang's league, but the whole team is crazy and yi sang just wants to play with some balls😢
Ishmael might as well be feral right now god damn this chapter hasnt been kind to her
this story event was great but the game keeps crashing constantly after the update on my phone so i cant grind properly
bro, thank you for your uploads, i can't play rn, I'm in vacation away from pc, abd Ishmael is my favorite character si can't miss any of her, watching yuor videos and going into the lore with you is the best
7:00 those two people on right do be looking like Rose and Lesti from W corp cleaners
just do be wondering if we could kick their asses again,i need more W corp ID's :^
Sounds like AK Seaborne, did Skadi take a vacation to the City
Cath is heathcliff's lover
I love how Ishmael and Heathcliff have this Sanji and Zoro dynamic between them
They always butthead all the time but in the end of the day they cared with one another
Heathcliff new nickname.......BALL BUSTER!!!
Date will be TRAPPED and BETRAYED by the sinners in the hallways for a thousand years?
What if Dante was TAPPED and BETRAYED and FELL IN LOVE with Ishmael and trapped in the Warp train for a hundred thousand years (EL GRANDE RELOJ ORIGINS (GONE DISTORTED))
@@kielbasamage What if DANTEH was TRAPPED in a unfulfilling MARRIAGE with Beatrice (Fausto ante los espejos)
Trust the sailor, they mean it when the waters ain't for shit.
And the Outism begins
dear god it make me wounder what type of moby dick we going to fight that ish is so scared of it on what she saw.
My boy yi sang has no enemies
3:34 FYI: “reticent” - not revealing one’s thoughts or feelings readily. Source: Oxford Languages
I'm gonna keep it 100 as well and say I didn't get the HeathMael ship until they started whaling on each other
Also...I lowkey freaked when Heathcliff said the Cath- bit god my Heathcliff stan ass cannot WAIT to see his Trauma now that I've actually finished reading Wuthering Heights.
12:04 Nuovo Fabric.
Passives Abilities Attribution in Use .
Nice
El chapter was really good but I feel Dante could have countered ishys points so easily and stopped everything with logic if he essentially dumb.
Here’s he points to address ishys arguments:
-the weather gonna fuck us over: then how the hell did you get here? And without revives??? If you can be in that sea without revives and get to places that means Dante perhaps won’t even need to revive! That’s how easy it’ll be!!
-People going mad and possibly distorting: yea that’s because you permanently lost someone, we can’t lose people unless they go overboard (I’ll get to that later). That distortion problem won’t be a problem here.
-go collect other boughs: my brother, Ishmael is NORMAL, we don’t have any easier boughs than this one. You think your normal ass bough gonna compared to ryoshus or heaths or whatever the fuck is outises backstory? It’s this bough or none at all. For canto 1 the people used some sleep spell which reviving can’t counter. You can’t use that cug.
-sinking/weather: if shit goes to shit remember we have that out of reality safe space on the back of the bus. It sure Faust planned that way as an escape of sorts, or atleast a temporary holding place till limbus company can retrieve the bus.
-monsters: the revivals and vergilious in question:
-the whale: were gonna fight it sure, but we don’t need to read up on it. This might be far fetched for Dante to mention in the story but given PMs track record of tying lore to gameplay mechanics it might be possible. When we get to the whale, Dante will have Infinite time to “study its characteristics” via the info screen, we will be able to know every little part about it, just listen to Dante.
-bodies being unretrievable: this is a good point, Dante should work with Ishmael on this point. However this is only for people going overboard/getting eaten by the whale. I’m pretty sure we can get people back from the bastard but that needs testing on Dante’s part.
-another point, this is a lobotomy Corp place, I’m pretty sure lobotomy facilities need a study stream of new employees if lob Corp the game is the hq then this lowly random facility might not have much access to t Corp stuff to rewind and restart a day. And if that’s true how the hell does these employees get to said lobotomy facility? If they can reach there we can.
Yep, if Dante just used the points I listed above all of this would have been resolved gujhhh. He so stupi smh