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If a child is acting that way (in such an overt sexual manner) it is almost always a sign that they themselves are victims. I was abused by an older child when i was young and it took me a long time to realize that he had 100% no clue what he was doing he was just replicating what had been done to him. If her child was watching porn so young its because someone showed it to them. If they know how to abuse other children its likely that they learned it from being abused themselves. Prepubescent children literally do not have the hormones to be that sexually motivated, if they’re touching other children its probably because they think its a game. If what she says is true its just a self report that she does not have the ability to keep children safe AT ALL. Why are your young homeschooled children out of your view frequently enough and long enough to be able to serially sexually abuse other kids and you’re none the wiser? It just means you’re not fucking watching them
I call her statements bs
Apparently (and this is just something I read based on alleged video evidence seeing as Ruby did film her little self righteous monologues for a living, but I personally haven't seen the footage in question) the types of media that Ruby considers to be pornographic isn't what you and I are probably imagining. For her and her beliefs, something as normal as a music video with racy lyrics and dancing women would be considered porn. Bearing that in mind, her statement takes on a wildly different meaning, and she might just be up here throwing her child under the bus over behavior that didn't meet their radical religious standards
@@lindsfreey9080 I wonder if she was trying to appeal to the kinds of people who already don't believe children when things involve sxuaI crime. There can be handfuls of evidence and those sorts of people just believe "the child did something to make it happen" which is basically her way of the world anyway. It's obvious she's trying to get slack off her back, but that itself would still fall into her negligence because why wouldn't she then get the child help regarding this behavior? It's good that most people see through her given the substantial evidence against her & experiences with such an individual themselves. It's scary that there are those not only like, but following her way as the way, like a Godly figure of "reason."
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I'm so sorry to read you have gone through such terrible trauma and it reminded me of a case I heard of a while ago of a young girl, under the age of 10, hurting her little baby brothers private area. Later it was determined that she had been r*ped for years and had actually become emotionally numb to the point where she felt no regret or sadness over hurting her brother, not even over being hurt herself. It took years of intense therapy to make her unlock her emotions again. It's heartbreaking and I am truly hoping that Ruby was just lying or misinterpreting what se*ual behavior and p*rn actually is, so that those children at least have a little less trauma to face.
Considering only 2 of her 6 kids are boys, the youngest son will be the 12 yr old who escaped and had them phone the police. Her accusing him of SA sounds like some sick revenge ploy
Exactly. he got them caught, she punished him from jail by separating him from all his siblings smh maybe he did do it but I really think it’s something she’d do as a form of punishment.
Her niece came out and said she’d admit to things she didn’t do because Ruby made her sit there and write her sins and kept saying no you’ve done more. Maybe she did a similar thing to him.
edt: jodi** not ruby
Accusing your sons of being sexual deviants is actually a pretty common move for abusive mothers.
Its a common thing for the Jodie lady to accuse random people of sexual acts they never committed and bascially having them handed over to her for "therapy" until they confess... this isnt the first time she has done this... its what the church hires her to do
I work with at-risk youth and youth experiencing homelessness, I’ve worked with several youth who received sexual charges at a very young age because of the claims their abusive parents made. These charges follow them for the rest of their life unless they can fulfill some really serious and expensive probation and court requirements between the ages of 18-22 and even then, those things never disappear completely. These allegations, even without charges, will absolutely follow these children because all of the mandated reporters will have to report to DCYF/CPS and they will have to investigate the children.
It definitely is. Look up the interview with Jodi’s niece. Jodi did the exact same thing to her, it’s a pattern for Jodi at least to accuse young children of being serial masterbators/sexual deviants.
publicly accusing the kid of being a sexual deviant to thousands of ppl is going to mess that kid up sexually possibly for life
Literally. If it isn't true, it's probably going to be one day now.
The kids already stated on her channel they have no friends :( I really hope our system helps for once and the gets get nothing but useful help and safety
She wants them to be separated, she wants to isolate these kids and she doesn't want them to prosper together... What a sick creature.
Everyone can see through that the police won’t let her blame it all on the child as a mean of reflecting more damage and punish him for escaping and calling for help … this will be one of the main things used against her during the trial she’s a dumb biatch and she’s done
If the boy is abusing his sisters then he needs to be separated for their safety. How do you know this isn't true? The girl could be a victim of her mom and her brother
@anafrill9892 It could be true, but I don't think so. It's likely Ruby and Jodi coerced the kids into "confessing" things that never actually happened.
@dissipatedcloud You don't know that and are merely speculating. Dismissing a serious claim of abuse is irresponsible. There are many cases of children sa ing other children and most come from messed up families like this. It makes a lot of sense that she would think torturing her son is the way to deal with this situation
@@anafrill9892i am a victim of COCSA, and if i'm being honest the story makes no sense, my abuser (a victim herself which is very common) but the ages don't make any sense, there is no way a child that young would be alone with that many kids, have that accesses and understanding. I was DOUBLE his age as a victim, with no understanding of what was happening to me. how could that boy? to me, this sounds like she's trying to justify why she taped up her children, that they are abusing monsters and this is all she could do.
Totally agree with Ethan here; as a father, there is absolutely no way for a three year old to access “P word” except by sheer negligence. They have no idea about anything sex related at that age. This whole case is getting even more disturbing.
100% no doubt about it
I’ve seen a few people suggesting that it could be the child doing something completely normal for their age but them treating it as if it’s a sign of perversion. Something as simple as a little boy playing with a barbie could be twisted to be a sign that he’s obsessed with naked women etc
@@IronWangCreates I wonder this as well. its really hard to believe anything she says when she resorts to such extremism. I could def see a world where her children are just simply curious about their own genitals and have not been properly taught what is appropriate or not when it comes to the handling of their own genitalia and others that a situation comes where ruby instantly sees depravity and perversion where there is none.
Also, I don't really believe what she is saying about the kids but hypersexuality in children is often a sign that they themselves have been sexually abused. The fact that her solution would be to duct tape them and starve them is insane...
I think her kids are unfortunately messed up from her and the father and that she thinks torture will cure her older boy of sexually abusing his sisters when really he needs mental health counseling asap. They all need counseling. This is how the cycle of abuse occurs
This adult woman found out that her 13 year old daughter's dance class would use the chorus of Flo Rida's Low for a dance (it was part of a mix of multiple songs), was told by her daughter that she didn't need to dance to it, said herself that her daughter didn't really understand the lyrics and wasn't bothered, and still called it "straight up hardcore porn" (actual quote), went to the principal to throw a temper tantrum and then cried on camera because this is what they were showing to children. Assuming she isn't completely fabricating all of these events and overlooking that she would be responsible if everything she says is completely true, I'm incredibly wary of her definition of sexual assault.
this woman is so sick and twisted it's insane.
Women*** + a man + family history !! it’s a bloody mess!
Here’s the question i would love to have an answer for how is Kevin not being investigated when the child who escaped clearly asked to call 911 instead of his father .. if his father is not involved or was never abusive why would he be more scared to call his dad and prefer to call the police instead. Clearly this man is not innocent and it’s criminal to send the poor children back to him or split them based on Ruby’s outrageous claims!
He was very obviously involved and acted like what she was doing is normal.
@@xxxxxxxxx1652The only explanation i have is the father making a deal with the police to be a main character witness against his wife in exchange of having no charges filed against him. Otherwise it could also be that they are still collecting evidence against him and don’t have enough to charge him as well and potentially maybe even both!
Same same…. I found it really interesting in the 911 call, in the background you can hear the boy respond that he knows where is father is but does not know where his mother is.
To your point, he knew where his father was and knew he wasn’t going to be any help.
Heartbreaking
It's because the father wasn't even living near them. He was removed from the home a year prior and he lived miles away from them. The police were the closest things to get them help.
@@pokemonrulzs101was waiting for such a comment , my dear that’s not the point the point is he could have asked to also call the dad or called the dad first and let him call 911 but he wasn’t even an option for him that’s the point !!!!
Even if the father didnt do anything directly abusive towards the kids, he still sat and watched while the abuse happened without doing anything to protect them. He should be investigated too, he's just as guilty as the mother
In some of the TH-cam videos he is partaking in her insane “punishments.” He’s just as fucking guilty.
Well I’m sure this won’t be an infuriating case to follow along with.
I’m already exhausted and the pre-trial didn’t even begin 🤦🏼♀️
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I’m kind of glad she’s taking this stance. This means she’ll get the book thrown at her, as opposed to weaseling her way out.
watch the mormon stories ep about jodi’s niece. i’ve seen a lot of shocking crap… i was so infuriated and just flabbergasted. her parents basically dropped her off at jodi’s and she did the same to her.
Let’s be clear this lady is POS and she committed nothing but abuse and most of it was verbal abuse .
Now that’s out of the way there is nothing wrong with SPANKING YOUR CHILD and you people who think it’s wrong are part of the problem where you think every kid should get a trophy or medal even if they come in Last place .Spanking your child does way good then telling them in a nice voice that they are grounded and have something taken away from them.
So you parents out there who have friends like Ethan who brag about not spanking their kids and give you lectures on how it’s hurting them Juat know those friends are full of shit .Verbal spankings are worse as you can see with this POS mother .Bottomline just cause you don’t ohycially spank your kid does not make you better it makes you not very smart .This family of 8 vlog mother deserves to be In jail until she’s like 65 to 70 years old
NatalieTheLawyerChick explained really well how even if hypothetically it’s true her kid did what she says, it’s not a defense for abusing him. You can’t abuse your children as punishment for abuse.
Yeah - if he DID do the things she's accusing him of, why didn't she call the police or CPS or get him professional (not Jodi) help?!
i mean i just dont think it's true,ethan brought up such an important point that how does a 3 year old view p word material???? they literally cannot read or write and honestly can barely speak in correct sentences. the entire accusation would either be entirely fake or she completely got the age wrong. the fact she is further isolating her child from his siblings is literally sickening.
@@tlangeeful1747I don’t think it’s true either. She needed to think of something he did that was REALLY bad, the worst she could think of. That’s the worst any of us could think of if we needed to justify abuse. It’s a really obvious ploy to me and it was used by a mother who murdered her child. It’s like a self-defense theory but you can’t claim that your life was in danger bc it’s a child so next worst thing is the child is SA literally “everybody in the neighborhood” 🙄
@@NC4E i know! he's also at the age where maybe he was curious about sexual topics and may have looked it up, and she made it completely unbelievable by making him 3 years old in her reccount of the story.
he's in middle school, which it wouldn't be surprising if he had some curiosity towards the topic or something but 3 years old is insane
I don’t think we need a lawyer to tell us, this is literally common sense LOL
Jessi Hildebrand, Jodi's niece, did an awesome interview on the Mormon Stories Podcast. Jodi took them in as a teenager and tortured them in a very similar way like Ruby's kids seemed to have been. Jodi also made Jessi "confess" to "sex addiction", "porn addiction" and masturbation, even though Jessi was so young and sheltered they didn't even know what these things meant.
I watched Rachel Oates' video on this yesterday, and one of the things that stood out as particularly insane to me was that Ruby and Jodi believe that we are all supposed to be held responsible for *our every action since birth.* One of their actual quotes is something along the lines of "From the second a baby is born, they are completely independent from you and they will start making their own choices. If they see something and turn their head, that's a choice they're making." The fact that they believe in personal agency since you're out of the fucking womb is really telling and really scary. I think that Ruby genuinely believes that saying these things about her son will absolve her in a way because she thinks that he made these choices. She believes that a three year old, who can't even fucking read, *made the choice* to watch porn and that she had nothing to do with it. It's actual insanity and I hope, for the sake of the children, that she rots in prison for a LONG time.
Wow. That’s completely opposed to the facts of children. I wish everyone would study child development and the truth about child behavior becomes more common sense. There’s so much young children cannot control. I don’t know how anyone thinks a brand new human who knows nothing and has never done anything should be able to control and conduct themselves completely in a few years of life. Especially, when adults can’t even hold their emotions together and not lose it. Abusive parents are the most hypocritical people. They are extremely weak at controlling their emotions and anger and yet expect their children to have perfect control and obey their every whim. It’s pathetic. Parenting is extremely hard and it is difficult to control your emotions at time, but that’s when you need to have integrity and strength and act from a calm and empathetic place. Because you’re the adult.
what's fucking insane about the fact that they believe that kids are independent from you the moment that they are born is that she STILL punished her kid for grabbing a pineapple on her own because Ruby was asleep and the kid was starving. like what the fuck
I believe Jodi made R confess to Ruby about all the shit he didn’t do. Jodi has a track-record of doing shit like this. She twists and manipulate things and ruins lives like that. It’s crazy. Ruby’s abusiveness just skyrocketed after meeting Jodi. It’s unbelievable.
100%!!!
Jodi used to say that she dreamed about her niece doing things, and that was God telling her the truth. I believe 100% those psychos made the children lie about their "sins" so they could punish them. Disturbing.
@@veronica5lmaaInteresting. It’s part of LDS belief that they can receive direct messages from God. Sometimes it’s used to justify horrible things, like the FLDS and child mariage.
@@veronica5lmaaher niece said that she blamed her of being sexually active and getting abortions when she was a teen. She said she didn’t even know much about sex but after all the brainwashing she actually confesses of things she didn’t do to make her aunt stop torturing her.
There are lots of old victims of Jodi that have spoken out saying that this torture and blaming of the kids is standard procedure for her. Ruby was obviously responsible for the kids, but it seems to be Jodi coming up with the mad ideas
Ruby was a good training dog for Jodi
Yep I saw the interview of jodi’s niece who said that Jodi said the same stuff about them… Jodi claimed that her niece was promiscuous and addicted to a bunch of things and etc and Jodie’s niece said it was ALL lies. They also said they were tied up and starved in the exact same way as Ruby’s kids. Jodi has an MO and has been doing this for years and when ruby and Jodi teamed up I think it was a recipe for true disaster. I’m so disgusted and devastated by the years of abuse Jodi (and ruby) have put multiple children through…
@@alicehatch1001 God, that interview with Jessi was harrowing. At every turn they were made to feel like a manipulator and a villain, to such an absurd degree. Shit like Jodi telling Jessi to scoot down so people don't see them while they're restrained and gagged with duct tape. Because being seen in the state they were put in by Jodi would be a form of manipulation on Jessi's part.
@@404findnotnamed ugh it was so so awful! And Jodi was such a cruel manipulator that she was able to convince Jessi that everything was Jessi’s fault. To lay the blame at the feet of any of these children is just such a terrible level of cruelty… it’s heartbreaking
@@alicehatch1001 And the way Jodi trained the whole family to abandon and ignore Jessi and not even stay in the same room with them. And they still fuckin side with her and act like Jessi's the unreasonable one!
The most infuriating thing about this: because she made that accusation, whether or not it’s true, her son will have to be housed away from other children because the state cannot take the chance and in danger others.
She did that on purpose out of spite of her child. Wtffff
Can they not psychologically assess him to determine if there's any truth to those claim? I can't believe the state would put her words over the child's well-being.
@@Dahlily yes but they will do it over many months.
Worth noting that it seems Ruby (and Jodi) have very warped views on what counts as p0rn. By "my child was watching p0rn" she may literally mean "my child listened to a song with explicit lyrics". Rachel Oates mentioned it in her latest video and I would imagine that explains what's going on here.
Exactly what I was thinking. Saying the kid confessed to assaulting 20 people could be about them literally just having crushes.
I just the other day on Tumblr saw an adult trying to accuse someone of being a rapist because they had sexual fantasies about people they weren’t dating or didn’t know. An adult was telling someone online they were a *rapist* because they had a fantasy about Megan Fox.
I’d say a combo of that and Jodi putting lies in their heads.. they will have to unlearn all of that now
This is probably closer to the truth. A lot of what she is saying doesn't add up. A kid being exposed to porn at a young age isn't going to be a sexual assaulter because they watched it. And whatever she thinks porn is, really won't do that.
It’s worse if this is true, that is rampant behavior indicating they are being SA’d themselves. And she did nothing, well she did do something, she traumatized them further. And now she’s revictimizing them by public ally sharing the details of their abuse. She’s a monster.
Exactly. I'm so baffled that she really thought that was any sort of defense. Kids can't understand anything about sex unless they are exposed to it. This kind of behaviour doesn't just happen. And if they don't feel safe, or aren't properly supervised or not educated on the matter this sort of thing happens. Its bad enough that sex education in general is just vague, confusing and scary for kids.
Look at the interview with Jessi Hildebrandt, the niece of Jodi Hildebrandt. Jodi mentally and physically tortured her also into confessing things she didn't do similar to the things that Ruby accuses her child of. So probably Jodi "brainwashed" Ruby into believing this (not defending Ruby here, she shouldn't be a religious bigot believing this stuff in the first place). edit: This being said, this Jodi must have made much more victims... There should be a full scale investigation on her old clientele.
Yeah they covered that video, it's in another clip
And the LDS “church” was sending people to Jodi for counseling!! Wtf??
The sad part is the daughter peeing the bed is due to the child abuse happening. Same thing happened to me--choc hospital did a whole investigation when i was a child due to it & asked some intense questions but i was young and thought i did something wrong so nothing came of it.
Not surprised in the slightest she threw her own kids under the bus. I’ve missed having time to myself as a mom a lot, but she gave the vibe of hating her kids for just existing, and making more work for her 😫. Now how can a 3 yr old get access to adult sites when supposedly the oldest was only allowed a flip phone??? It’s a real head scratcher.
She always made her kids sleep on the bathroom floor whenever they were sick. She even made it look all cute with blankets and pillows behind the toilet. Really weird.
Wtf
It is so sick that the prison is treating her better than she treated her own children! Because they have to feed prisoners but these sick women don’t feed or water their own children!
The fact that she thinks saying my child is a creepy pervert is gonna make her look better is just mental. I was on board following this case, but this is to much for me, I'm out.
She needs to be in jail for the rest of her life and never see those kids again. All the family or family friends that knew and didn't do anything should be in jail too. They're absolutely disgusting people, and I hope the kids are alright.
She probably will get a reduced sentence due to being influenced and Jodi will get the longer sentence either way Ruby will lose custody and Kevin better lose it too at some point!
100%
As much as we like to say these things I think it would be better overall if she had access to therapy in jail and they studied what made her that way to prevent abuse in the future
@@shrub8644I already know some of the reasons. Lack of emotional regulation and ability to control anger. Lack of education about child development in our society. Being susceptible to “cult” thinking.
@@ZZ-qy5mv All of these are probably correct yeah, but it needs to be studied so there is some hard proof/data
She’s still abusing him from inside a jail cell. No kid acts this way without being a victim first, not that I believe a word she says.
You have to look more into Jodi. There was an interview with her niece, and apparently convincing children that they are sexually assaulting others is something she likes to do, and her “therapy” involves depriving children of things they need in order to make them feel like they are less then human. They are both monsters. I think looking into Jodi’s “therapy” gives even more insight into what exactly happened and why Ruby is making these wild accusations.
From watching interviews with Jessi Hildebrandt, my theory is that Ruby entrusted her three kids with Jodi for torture. Under the torture, Jodi says “this will all stop if you just tell us the truth” despite telling the truth and having done virtually nothing wrong. The child who escaped lies in confession about sexual assault, and Jodi pushes him to make it seem more disturbing, more justifiable in the abuse, hence the absolutely insane claims about pornography at 3 and 20 sexual assault cases. Jodi reported it to Ruby, and Ruby wholly believed it. Ruby may have also been there. But I doubt that boy did any of that. He loved his sisters enough to risk further abuse and escaped because they were in desperate need of help. He’s a hero. Unfortunately, you can hear him saying in the 911 call that he deserved the abuse. I hope that his current foster family makes him feel loved, that his sisters are okay, and that all six of the children can go to therapy. I hope that the boy has his name cleared.
Stalling to take her child to the hospital is the most unhinged thing. This woman should’ve never had kids.
I'm 100% sure this was a lie. Jodi was known to use the same tactic of accusing some of her clients of having a porn addiction or cheating to take money from them, so many ppl got destroyed by her lies on awful divorces. I'm sure the deranged Ruby learned that those accusations would create an easy way to take the blame from her. I just pray for this woman to rot in prison for the next 40 years.
I would appreciate it if you could bleep out the names of the kids when you show clips of the family's videos. A lot of people know their names already but so many more have only heard of the family since the news broke and we should give the kids as much privacy as child victims get in every other circumstance.
She did this cuz she knew theyd split up the kids in different foster homes. Even from behind bars shes abusing them
There was SA in my family. I have nine siblings. It wasn’t because we were taught it was normal, it was because we were sexual suppressed. We were not even aloud to watching kissing on TV. We were taught that sex was wrong. At some point, your mind breaks.
Jesus christ being sexually suppressed and having to resort to incest is the worst thing to go through and is unimaginable....
@@thewonderfulworldofkatushya950 It is often overlooked. And we were homeschooled in rural Montana. I didn’t make real friends until I turned 16 and started working in a town 30 miles from our house.
I'm so sorry:( wish you the best now
@@saraoliveira8836 thank you. I’m glad this family and others are finally being exposed and children are being helped
They have said how they have no friends so I can only imagine how isolated they are
children of that age can perform these acts, because they are mimicking what has been done to them ! they dont understand the gravity of what is being done so if they have it happen to them they will mimick the behavior thinking its a normal thing to do. this is sickening, its concerning to think what more they have been subjected too other than what we have seen
Remember when Jodi's niece would say Jodi would have dreams of her "being pregnant" and stuff and thinking they were visions from God, and no matter how much her niece said they werent true Jodi refused to listen and continued to threaten her to tell the truth? Shed severely punish her niece for lying, when the dreams were fake? I bet she had dreams of the 3yo watching corn or SAing other children, and I bet none of those dreams are true, but she strongly believes they are and convinced Ruby they were true too. Not saying Ruby isnt responsible. Shes sick and twisted and still worse than Jodi imo. All she needed was someowne who would valisate her and give her excuses for how she treats her own children. Both should rot in jail
Both parents are demons and the husband should be in jail or investigated while in a holding cell
I saw an interview with the niece of the business partner. Her niece was placed in her care in a similar fashion, and she claims that her aunt was convinced that she was obsessed with sex from a young age too. I'll bet they interrogated these kids until they get them to confess to things that they did not do.
As a young kid I experienced seeing my little sister being sexually abused in front of me without understanding what was going on and, while seeing an adult behave in that manner, I thought that it was normal and okay. As a result I attempted to do similar things with other children who were my age because I just thought that that was a thing people did. If Ruby Franke's kids are "sexually assaulting" other kids in the neighbourhood and their siblings then they probably learned it from experiencing it themselves or by seeing it occur with their siblings. This sounds like something else to look into if this is true.
I live in Utah. I've never been Mormon, but Im surrounded by the culture nonetheless.
The mormon religion creates a culture of considering people, kids included, "worthy" or "unworthy" of love, affection and respect depending on their actions and behavior. "Worthiness" before heavenly father is a BIG part of the religion and the comparison of earthly parents to the heavenly parents inevitably creates this culture where parents arent held accountable. So her passing the buck to her kids is absolutely in line with the Mormon zeitgeist.
To any child abuse victims, you are valuable and lovable. It’s pos’ like this who get way better treatment than they deserve.
My mom had 5 children in 5 years. Me and my siblings were all in close age. Not one of us was every locked in a closet with duct tape! Wow!
Most kids and adults would confess to anything if they’re told I’ll stop and let you eat if you confess. So they confess to anything to make it stop.
It sounds like shes trying to split them up...i feel sick that this can even happen.
I’m not surprised about this malignant narcissist not admitting any guilt. Hope she suffers 😌
Her children being placed in homes without other children is being treated guilty before ANY investigation. SICK AF. I hope the prison justice system does what they do to child predators like this sick FREAK.
As someone who’s sadly been a victim to generational INST, R, and SA, those children would’ve HAD to learn it from somewhere… wether they learned it straight from an adult or the media. Either way she is absolutely at fault and NEEDS to be held accountable if this is true. But I severely doubt it, because she would’ve told this story so much differently explaining where this started or HOW they even learned this stuff!!! Absolutely insane. I truly believe this evil woman has never loved these children.
All her parenting revolved around restrictions, she DANG WELL knew what those accusations on her kids would do. So, now they're STILL having restrictions placed on them bc of HER BS. It makes me so f&n angry, because you KNOW she's smiling inside like: "That'll teach them, they need to learn consequences" like she's absolutely f&n INSANE! ughh
What’s crazy is that no child knows any sexual activities, when they’re born their lives and minds are a clean slate. There was something definitely going on behind closed doors within that home. That’s only a shitty excuse. 🙄
A child can stumble onto porn and be aroused by it. This won't make a kid into a sexual assaulter though.
This info on Ruby's accusations toward the kids was given by an unreliable reporter. Please talk to Jordan and McKay! They are ex-Mormon TH-camrs who have the most reliable info on this situation.
Maybe she doesnt want them together so they cant corroborate their stories by telling the same foster parent more information about Ruby's abuse. Coordinating both sets of foster parents to check if they maybe heard the same thing from the other child will delay proceedings. And anything she can do to delay, and get her lawyer to make a better motion for bail is an advantage for her rn. All just my own speculation, just something i thought of
My heart goes out to all my fellow child abuse survivors. May peace always find you whenever you need it most.
These poor children. It’s not fair that they had to go through this. They’re safe from her now at least but all the damage and chaos leftover that they have to deal with and heal from is insane. I hope they all end up being okay and don’t have to deal with anymore abusive people in their life.
I get so angry knowing people like this are able to have kids, while people like me who actually would love a kid but can’t have any. This world is so messed up. I hope those kids are ok.
Your anger is so justified. I'm crying for these children.
"she treats them like livestock" truer works have never been said
When will the next Olivia PowerPoint be!!! I love her
She’s pretty damn cool i second that.
This would be a good PowerPoint
I hope she lives every day in as much fear and pain as she caused her children.
That poor little boy, she's so foul
As someone who way abused sexually as a small child her attiude reminds me of my abuser a LOT...... I am scared to know what she has all done.
Kids wetting the bed can also be a side effect of child abuse and SA.
There were a similar case a few years ago where the parents both went to jail because they locked their son in the basement for over a year. The parents defense was he SA’ed the children. The kid was locked in a closet with no food water or light. Insanity.
honestly she out her oldest son throigh so much horrible things and now she’s doing it to her younger son. the girls still faced abuse but Ruby treated the boys like straight spawns of devils and it makes my stomach sick
Bed wetting can be a sign of abuse.
3year old can't even turn on Paw Patrol as much as they might want to.....
There was a previous complaint against Jodi that she wrongly accused a patient of a pr0n addiction, irreparably damaging his marriage and career. Same as Ruby is now accusing her child.
Considering what we know about Ruby’s standards for what is and isn’t appropriate, I wonder what falls within HER definition of SA. Wouldn’t be surprised to find out if it was something like the kid took off their t-shirt in public, kissed someone on the cheek or held someone’s hand…
I hope she pays for this and has no access to them because ain't no way she's not gonna take this out on them. She is not fit to be a mother and I hope these poor kids don't feel the guilt of 'turning her in' because it's truly not their fault she's a monster. I hope they also get some money from her because I doubt she set aside the funds that she GOT BECAUSE OF THEM...... Poor, poor kids. I wish them a somewhat normal future 😢❤
They let her use that excuse as a nail in her coffin, this will be unequivocally used against her in court she’s accusing the child as a way of punishing him for escaping and asking for help a blind monastery cat can see through that not to mention it’s HER MINOR SON IS HER RESPONSIBILITY so anything like this falls under neglect of a minor , this child and all the children could also sue her when they grow up for defamation and emotional plus physical abuse there is no time limit on that.
@@ChefNourhanI hope so. I just cannot imagine the emotional turmoil that these kids feel. They probably feel like they betrayed her in some way, in situations of abuse, the victim rarely wants to see their abuser locked up, especially if it's your own MOTHER (and father possibly...I truly doubt his hands are clean because how could they be).
There is NO way a single-digit aged child could SA 20 people. That's an insane allegation. I've unfortunately heard true stories of SA from one child to another, but 20?! 20 without a single parent knowing or doing anything about it??? Outlandish. Ridiculous. And *even if* it was really true, then Ruby as the parent had the responsibility of getting the authorities involved. No, I don't mean having her child arrested - I mean having social workers involved, therapists, maybe even crisis counselors. What the heck was she doing letting all this slide if it was actually true??? You don't just chain up your children, you psychopath. I think Ruby is making all of this up in order to isolate all of her children even further because she's so angry at them that SHE got caught for abusing them.
Yeah the niece of Jodi Hildebrandt said that all of these batshit crazy allegations against these kids are identical to what Jodi did to her when she was around 13. And it's not just accusations.
The niece was in her aunt Jodi's care for a bit when she was a young teen. She'd force her to admit to things and then use them against her. She'd force her to admit she was addicted to masturbation before she even understood it and then when she finally relented and said, "Ok I'm addicted to masturbating" just to make the onslaught stop, her aunt would force her to admit that she's a liar, and then use that against her if she said anything. "How can I believe you, you just told me you're a liar!" Like that is some seriously sick shit.
That's why the son, during the initial 911 call, even though he was being tortured and escaped, you can still hear him saying, "Yeah but this was my fault, what happened was my fault" like he's obviously been brainwashed as well.
That Jodi Hildebrandt woman needs to be investigated further. What other children did she do this to? They deserve justice too. And the fact that Ruby Franke went along with this and believed it and subjected her young children to this. Honestly so horrific these poor kids.
You have to cover the Jodi Hildebrandt victims that spoke out with the Mormon Stories Podcast
Anybody who has ever been to jail knows your first court appearance is almost always video court. Been that way long before covid.
I fear she's gonna try to do some freedom from persecution because it's a religious matter. In the mormon world, sex crimes and even just little things like masterbation and p0rn are as bad as murder. She might try to say she was punishing within the church.
ruby is a sociopath. no love in that body
her eyes are dead
@@xxxxxxxxx1652Demonic eye balls! Lol
This person has possibly the most novel form of munchausen ive ever heard of
Sleep on the floor in the bathroom? What? It's not just the bed that needs to be changed, the child needs to be cleaned up too. Did they actually send them away in the bathroom for the night because they didn't want to deal with it.... I hope they at least cleaned up the child and didn't make them sleep in it
even from jail shed trying to control her kids. what a disgusting person
I remember an old episode of Jon & Kate Plus 8. Kate’s best friend who would babysit the twins once in awhile told Kate that some of the kids were sleeping on her bathroom floor. I was like what?! Kate was there to pick up the kids. The tv show didn’t show the front or her friends house or any wide angle shots inside. Until they got to her bathroom which was the size of my first apartment. She had this HUGE fluffy thick soft memory foam rug next to a Roman style tub. Her friend was rich. Anytime I hear someone voluntarily sleeping on a bathroom floor, I think of that scene. 🤣🤦🏻♀️
Whats even sadder is now the children gotta get investigated based off the allegations she made and police/social workers have to sit with these kids and start asking uncomfortable questions. Just trying to ruin your childs mentak health at that point.
Jessi Hildebrandt speaks out and she is Jodi's niece. She has been through awful treatment just like that of this young boy. The being accused of SA ing others is just a part of the systematic torture put in place by Jodi Hildebrandt's sick & twisted mind.
Peeing the bed is a sign of SA
I bet ruby thinks looking hugging or holding hands is sexual assault. Any reason to hurt her kids.
did they watch Jessie's interview? I think that was the name of Jodi's nice, who tragically was also a victim of her, It answers all this nonsense, it's so sad what they did to all these kids
I don’t get why they didn’t doubt the legitimacy of those statements, if she’s abusive they should not have believed her. Poor Russel he looked like he was such a sweet kid :/
She found a way to make sure those kids felt isolated still
Kevin and Ruby used their kids and got themselves super rich. I am SO appalled at her claims about her son. Even if it was true, which of course, it's not, that FOR YEARS (like since he was 3 yrs old?!) RF abused those 20 people, why didn't this great mother take him to a mental health expert? THAT, in itself, would be a horrific abuse + make her an accomplice in RF's "crimes" as she never reported them. Those kids suffered so much. I have 4 kids, and pray these children get the best possible help and be happy and free.
How typical for an abusive parent to blame their own kids. So deranged
If those incidents were so common and definitively true, why’d she do NOTHING about him? She’s the parent.
I kind of think she SA'd her teenage son. Their relationship seemed really weird.
If you guys can find the video where she sends her older son to some camp, there’s a part where she’s talking in this sun-room thing, BAKING SODA all over under her nose.
Just wanna point out a couple things.
1) False confessions for blackmail purposes is a common strategy in churches like JW, Mormon and Scientology. The use of the word confession makes me suspect that it was part of the abuse. Punishment until you confess sort of thing, and it's been proven that people in duress will confess to anything to get the abuse to stop.
2) I refuse to even entertain these claims are real until there is actual proof, but if they are it is because these children have been abused themselves. Kids don't just start doing things like that out of thin air.
“Are your guards denying you food and water” Ethan kills
Me. Hope that cretin rots in jail
My heart is literally broken for these kids 💔 😢
Same imagine how much therapy they will need to be normal and emotionally functional around other kids!
I don't find this all that surprising. People confess false shit under torture all the time.
Ruby has called the songs that her kids junior high was playing "pornography" and worked herself into a frenzy and started crying.
The three year old probably stumbled onto some weird spiderman elsa stuff on TH-cam kids.
Exmo here. The Mormon view on porn is fucked. Their leaders have said that when a woman dresses immodestly that she “becomes pornography”. I wouldn’t be surprised if the three year old was looking at a girl in a bikini while they were at a pool or something and she considered it “viewing pornography”. I really hope that is all it is and that a 3 year old didn’t have access to actual porn.
Accusing your children of sexually abusing their siblings sounds more like that child was sexually abused and either did the same thing to others or she simply lied about it to punish them. Saying a 2 year old was watching porn is evidence against her. She is the parent who is in charge of monitoring what they watch. A kid that age doesn't actively have access to explicit content unless the parents were neglectful.
She once said something along the lines of, “I wish I could’ve been more selfish… go to target when I wanted.” That tells me all I need to know about her. Some people literally shouldn’t have kids. It’s not a requirement that if you can, you should 👀
How any children have to suffer before TH-cam actually does something? Why have a report button if it falls on def ears? They need to be held accountable as well.
Just some thoughts: I think someone may have leaked actual zoom link because typically for public virtual hearings they will be livestreamed to TH-cam. Also a lot of courts hold certain types of hearings by zoom because it's convenient and allows them to keep cases flowing and prevent further backlog.
I hope she never gets access to these children, I wouldn't put it past her to try to murder them at this point
If the child is abusing others, it likely means they themselves were abused and NEED PSYCHIATRIC HELP, not imprisonment and torture in the home.
Older kids and bed wetting is often tied to trauma if not for a medical reason.