"Patsy, you're a LOUSY HOMEMAKER and COOK!" - Overheard by Ramsey Housekeeper just before Christmas
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With the money they had she didn’t have to be a good cook or housekeeper! He didn’t marry her for her cooking skills.
Patsy may have had the same clothes on because she never went to bed.
Also the same makeup
Exactly
That’s the only reason that makes sense. You don’t get up at 5 30 and dress up to make coffee in your own house.
Exactly
I think she showered and got made up for xmas dinner about 3 to 4 pm afternoon before. Sat at their hosts house and didn't get dirty. The next morning she's planning on getting luggage and little kids ready to get on private plane. Is the plan to sleep in her clothes and shower after landing next morning? Perhaps if you were flying commercial you would be glammed up more for general public, but she knows the lone pilot doesn't care. Just a thought.
What took the coroner so long to get to the ramsey's house? Why spend only 10 minutes at the crime scene. There is not an excuse in the world to leave jon bennet's body lying there for so long.
@@sarahcampbell7929 sarah i don't think i can ever have tea and scones again lol.
Police were protecting the family. The only question is why.
Not a good one
@@anniet6292 they should have consulted you
It was Christmastime, is probably the reason why and boulder was a small city back then.
Something terrible happened in that house and no one was there to help that little girl. Sad & sickening. Too many weird things about it too.
None of us would ever have dreamed of such a thing if you hadn't called our attention to it.
Speaking of lazy housekeeping, the home was always a disaster from the photos we see online. Why was the housekeeper so lazy? I always wondered what the housekeeper was paid to do. She certainly wasn’t cleaning 🧼. The home could have looked beautiful however you couldn’t see it for the mess, clutter and dirt.
I thought the same ... but I think the house is ugly regardless. Seems strange that they had ‘open house’ to show off the Xmas decks and held parties there. If my house was in that state I’d be embarrassed to let anyone in!
I always thought the same... Such a luxurious house but honestly looks like a mess and dirty too. Who pays a housekeeper to keep a house in such a disgusting state?
@@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey ...The Ramsey’s?
I would like to say that as a housekeeper to various people over 37 years ( and counting), with some families it’s truly a thankless job. I’ve gone once / twice a week for some people and it’s a constant mess like the first time you did it. You can clean and tidy over a two or four hour period but if there is no effort made to do the basics in between then the result is the Ramsey home.
Some families put limits on the staff as far as access to rooms.. weekly or monthly.. sometimes yearly tasks. For example, children’s rooms may have been off limits except for certain times each yr. beginning of school, directly before or after Christmas etc. It looks as if the Ramsey’s housekeeper was employed to do more “as needed” type work. imo
Why can't these people just tell the truth?
Because some of them were paid off .
My conclusion is that.....Burke hit out ar his sister over the pineapple so I would class it an accident and the police should have been called. They decided to cover it up and never talk about it again.
@@jaynestagg9460 haven't you read any of true crime rocket science books he said burke has nothing to do with this stop blaming the poor child !!!
@@internationalwoman9547 Americans love to scapegoat small children for the crimes of their elders. It's the American way!
@@internationalwoman9547 Doesn't make it a fact. It's possible Burke accidentally struck Jonbenet. But I believe with little doubt it was Patsy. I know it wasn't John Ramsey... no woman would stick by her husband if they did this.
Housekeepers know all of the gory details, same with secretaries.
Housekeepers, office cleaners know a lot, people often talk in front of them as if they are invisible ..
@@GirlFriday68 exactly that. Exactly.
And your bartender
Absolutely
@@honeybee6858 of course the bartender...we know the wife and the girlfriends...😏
I wonder why the neighbor that heard a scream in the middle of the night didn't call the Police?
Screaming was probably normal at the Ramsey home.
@@markmadison4281 Good point. But sad.
@@kaybrown4010 good thought.
That is likely the case. I think Burke and Jonbenet did not get along.
Mostly I think Burke was really jealous of her, all the attention she would get. She was a beautiful little girl. I’m sure she got a lot of attention from many people
I thought the neighbor who heard the scream assumed the mom would check.
Probably was afraid of the Ramseys and didn't want to get involved
I’ll never understand why the Ramseys needed to rally so many friends to the scene that morning while “waiting for the kidnapper’s call” I can imagine calling a sister or one close friend to hold my hand but not all those couples. Were they really so close to all those folks? Unless these people trickled in on their own by word of mouth? In every crime show I’ve watched, there’s always police guarding the scene and keeping people away. What’s up with that?
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Patsy was a drama queen, and she knew she needed an audience to play to.
Possibly the same reason Lizzie Borden did. To muck up the crime scene and possibly quietly take away any evidence. The Rich stick together. John Ramsey is very wealthy and being on his side could help many of his rich friends. And like Lizzie, all the friends have dropped away. Hmmm.
On purpose…
Contaminate the crime scene…and to build a line of defense between the Ramseys and police…and also to give the kidnappers a reason to kill JonBenet for disobeying the orders. I don’t think they thought the body would be discovered
I think the noise the neighbor heard was either JonBenet's head being bashed in or the clank of Burke's bat being thrown outside because they found his bat outside in the back or side of the yard somewhere and didn't they test it and find fibers from the basement or something? Also I think the reason they stayed together was for Burke and because Patsy didn't want to work and because they both had secrets they knew about each other that could land them in prison, and being divorced they aren't able to lean on each other and could end up confessing to a BFF. Also, we're they able to thoroughly search the house for the rope and duct tape before Patsy's sister came in and could potentially collect the items for them?
Good points. I think the neighbors would have heard the baseball bat being thrown out but not the blow to the head.
They had a lot of dirt on each other for sure remember a wife can't testify against her husband in a court of law I believe that's correct
I don't know I don't think a wife can't testify against her husband or vice a versa plus I had two separate attorneys
The two charges against them that gj were child abuse covering up a crime resulting in death Google it it's a CNN interview John Ramsey says oh I didn't know that about the cover-up he says I don't know what that means and the reporter says it means accessory to covering up a crime he starts biting his lip kind of laughs a little bit and says that's absurd
But I believe they had separate lawyers
Some of the wording in the ransom note came from the books in the Ramsey home.
It is also written in PR's snarky tone. And her Southern use of "Mr" (Watch in interviews, she will refer to an adult male as 'Mister' XYZ). Ofc, this on top of the handwriting analysis.
@@jent6476so patsy ramsey used the word mister. Big hairy deal
Always something new from TCRS, first I'd heard about this brick.
If JonBenet had a fall from her bike surely that wouldn't have resulted in such elaborate theatrics. Just call an ambulance.
Thought the same. But if she was riding her bike and a certain nine-year-old was swinging a bat at the same time, or chasing her with a bat…. then a cover-up could ensue … but still a lot of theatrics for an “accident”
She was hanging in the basement, how did she get from a bicycle wreck to being hung , a ransom letter from the home,
The bowl is on the table in plain view and patsey still denied tht she put it there. Yet she never mentioned it looked out of place when the police first arrived. Yet they wonder why ppl think they are guilty
Thank you for creating this. I see knots that are tied by a sailor and here you mention the "execution style", so this could be someone who has been sailing and in the millitary... and that profile fits mr Ramsey.
Yes. I was astonished to hear John say he didn't know how to tie knots. That made me examine their other comments much more closely. I don't want to believe anyone in the family did it, but there are just too many things that don't add up for me to completely exonerate them.
@@alohaannie5076 Exactly, I did a deep dive also, turns out he previous was on a military training camp, learning execution methods, with sticks and strings... and also he was a sailor since childhood, made competition's also. So, funny how 5 percent of loose evidence get all the attention when 95% of evidence lead you to a crime in the house, and ...it was not the brother, imo. That poor boy have been living with these parents...knowing what happened, he must have been scared as hell, I really feel sorry for him.
Absolutely it was john😮
I thought they had a housekeeper. What was she being paid for?
I thought the housekeeper ended up with the flu before Christmas. I am assuming she was at the Ramey's on Dec 22 to get the house ready for 1 of the Ramey's Christmas parties on Dec 23. The house doesn't look like anything has been done since the Dec 23 party. I see bagels in a photo that must be from Christmas breakfast or lunch still sitting there. The Ramey's were definately slobs and neglected their home and only relayed on the housekeeper to even clean up after them, not just the kids.
@@jacquiet6040
I think the housekeeper is absolutely involved !! This house keeper keeps getting ignored how do we know who this housekeeper is xo texted to? She knows them well she knows their comings and goings for all we know she was like a nanny to the kids she could very well have been running a sex ring using JB w her own associates and could have been being paid … maybe the sex act was taken to far so her and her associates staged it
Or maybe they were afraid JB was going to tell or maybe Burke saw it or saw something
It was definitely someone they all knew bcuz the killer knows to much
A maid /nannny housekeeper can see bank statements over hear conversations /phone calls have inside knowledge she also could have been planted there as their maid by someone
There is more to the maid situation
And how convenient she was “sick” just prior to this?? Perfect time to plan plot and prepare
How about the ransom letter. Are you also saying, she wrote the note.
'Lousy homemaker and cook!' Ouch, that would have stung.
Apparently, Patsy's forte was being 'arm candy,' and John Ramsey could well afford to pay for a house-keeper; so what was his problem?
@@sjordan7085 look at the photo of Jon Benet. Her roots are showing. They were dyeing a little girl's hair.
These two were both perverted. John & Patsy.
Trying to be something they weren't. The 'thicc' former beauty queen & software nerd. Guess I feel sorry for their living son. Good Grief.
Oh the 'Problem' is some women think they CAN cook & they are WRONG. lol.
But they persist. And everyone suffers.
Well that’s a good point. Why would they call their friends to come on over? They read the “ransom note@ saying not to talk to anyone. I understand calling the police, but not arranging a get together with their friends at a time like this. Another odd thing is no one cared that the time the kidnappers were to call came and went and no one cared. You’d think they’d be glued to the phone waiting for that call.
"Get together", 😄😆, I don't why I think thats so funny
Yes, inviting guests to a kidnapping is weird.
Ransom-note is so bizarre it indicates a bizarre scenario surrounding the death of JonBenet Ramsey⚠️
100000% Patsy wrote that note
Of course.
If Patsy had a housekeeper...why would John care if she could "keep house or cook"? Her "job requirements" were different than most stay at home moms.
Old houses like that quite often have hiding places. I once lived in an old house in London, where there was a totally concealed small space under the floor, where you could easily hide something and nobody would find it. It has also been the case that murder weapons have been found by accident, in buildings where crimes have been committed, sometimes decades later, although the premises were meticulously searched by detectives at the time of the crime. ;))
Yes very true. And they lived in a big old house. Absolutely I said before, I think the fact that they couldn’t find duct tape or the rope doesn’t mean anything. It could’ve easily been hidden in that house and removed later. Sometimes the best hiding places are quite obvious. Throw it in a cereal box. Throw it in the carton of milk.
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Maybe the murder weapon was taken to the plane by someone else for John Ramsey
@@heatherswendsen5901 The Ramsey's never spent another day or night in that house. They turned it over to the police.
I watched the Phil Donahue show about this. Jon Benet's Brother was a guest. He said that he and his sister ate some pineapple in their Kitchen before going to bed.
Phil Donahue?
@@bills6093I think poster means Dr. Phil.
That's interesting. That's the first I've ever heard any family member acknowledge the pineapple was there, let alone admit to having actually eaten it
@@Monica-b6ei remember that also
@@Monica-b6eDoesn't make it true
I think the parents went to bed and Burke and jonbenet stayed up and Burke accidentally hurt her then the parents covered up for him
Patsy had the same clothes on, though, so I wonder if she really went to bed.
Do ya really think John Bennett Ramsay married her for her housewifery?
The shine does get off the apple . They’re much older now
@@foxyauragems6146 I'm younger than that now.
Johnny Bennet was married before Patsy.... and married again after she died.. he had children from his first marriage..he looks like a guy that marriage for him... verifies his sentence: " you have to move on".... i have not seen him crying in a single bit interview.... always with controlled reactions in his efforts to not reveal a lot about him.
It's weird however after his daughter and wife death he found the strength to "move on" remarrying for the third time.
That on his own shows a lot about him.
@@loramatilda1126 And in your opinion it should have been his punishment to sit in that house alone for the rest of his life? Brilliant!
@@loramatilda1126 Some people find it impossible to live without a partner and would never be comfortable being alone. The fact that he is a wealthy man and able to provide well for his family would likely make finding a suitable partner a fairly simple matter.
What I find strange about this case is when they was all sitting around waiting for the phone call from the person (s) responsible for the kidnapping of Jon Benet, they were all sitting calmly. Had it been me I would have paced the floor, climbing the walls just frantic over the whole situation. The detective stated this in an interview. Just very odd behavior from the Ramsey's in my opinion.
And daddy wanted to get on his plane and bugger off shortly after supposedly innocently finding his murdered daughter!!! YEAH RIGHT he was innocent....
Ya ok, so like u were there??? 😂😂😂
I remember some witness testimony that they ignored the deadline for the call. Neither John or Patsy paid any attention at all.
he wasnt innocent, but he didnt do it; the son Burke did it, it was an accident, so patsy wrote the ransom letter, and john staged the basement scene, then they contaminated the whole house by having all their friends and relatives all through the house...@@berniehayes8425
@@jaredpeterson380 Why were they expecting a call "today" when the note said it would come "tomorrow"?
Nicks voice made me nod off again and its 9am!! lol
@@ziggypop8106, I know right, a hidden talent that reaches across continents!
@Angela V I almost rely on it to get to sleep. Don't know if that's good or bad. The Vincent Van Gogh series is particularly effective ☺️
His voice completely lulls me to sleep but also keeps me focused at work when I listen on my earphones. The best voice ever and he is intelligent to boot!
Same here. And it happened again tonight. Hey Nick, any subliminal messages you want to ‘fess up to? Hahahaha 😴
I've read every book, watched every interview and I still have no clue! It's maddening, because this crime is so haunting, so sad 😢 somebody got away with murder.
Such insight and intelligence never cease to amaze me!
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I believe it was the housekeeper with an accomplise. That's why she continues to turn attention to the Ramseys and away from herself. It's worked so far.
@@auntsally3821
SUSPECT LINDA PUGH - FACILITATOR Her goal was to get John Ramsey to go down to the basement to open the inground safe in the "Wine Cellar." Pugh had discovered this safe in November when the Ramsey's left her with the run of the house while they shopped in NYC. She was tasked with taking Christmas trees upstairs and washing windows while her husband Mervyn was to fix the broken basement window. (He didn't fix it.) The trees were found in the same room as the inground safe.
Pugh had the key to give access without breaking and entering, knew where to find objects to confuse the case like Burke's knife she had hidden. She would have seen the semen stained duvet in John Andrew's Samsonite because she was in charge of the laundry. She knew the location of Patsy's notepads and pens and she had helped herself to identical pads and pens as the BPD discovered them in her house on 12/26/97. She knew the best location to put the three page ransom note because she knew Patsy took the back stairs first thing in the morning. She knew the amount of John's bonus which was on every check stub he got in '96 and tucked away in drawers. Pugh had copies of Patsy's handwriting since Patsy would write out Pugh's work assignments. Pugh bragged about this in her chapter of a book she called "The Death of an Innocent." Her motive was money from the safe. She needed to be away from the crime scene, and still have JB controlled. She needed to get someone to write the ransom note to make it look like Patsy's handwriting. Both she and Chris Wolf knew Santa Bill.
SUSPECT CHRIS WOLF - MASTERMIND Chris Wolf had writing like that of the Ransom Note. imgur.com/r/JonBenet/8Ha6H4C
"Forensic document examiner Lloyd Cunningham cannot eliminate plaintiff(Wolf) as the author of the Ransom Note. (SMF ¶ 279; PSMF ¶ 279.) Plaintiff's ex-girlfriend has also testified she believes that he is the note's author. (J. Brungardt Aff. ¶ 43.) Carnes Report
He was in to foreign intrigue and had blamed John Ramsey for the sale of arms to Third World Countries. Wolf was a former male stripper, rock climber, convicted sex offender and a journalist. He had had Santa Bill AKA Professor William McGovern, was his faculty adviser at the U of Colo in the Master's Degree Dept. of Journalism. Wolf expressed hatred for John because he believed John's company, Access Graphics was selling arms. He wrote about it both before and after the murder. The letter Carol McKinley of Fox News got from Wolf would have been shared with her friend Steve Thomas. Thomas should have realized that this was the same motive Wolf's girlfriend Jackie Dilson had told him. Brought in in January Wolf refused to cooperate and even had to be hobbled yet he was let go for another 13 months. When brought back he still was not thoroughly investigated. Despite no alibi for that night his computer was not seized even though he'd asked Dilson's daughter's boyfriend how to wipe it clean and he was not administered a lie detector test.
Thomas' informant about Wolf, Jackie Dilson, was deemed unreliable even after Thomas' "friend" Carol McKinley of Fox News received a letter from Chris Wolf substantiating the very same motive Dilson had told Thomas - animosity toward John Ramsey calling him a "Merchant of Death."
BPD Police Chief Beckner Deposition Wolf v Ramsey Q: Lin Wood A: Mark Beckner5 Q You've got writings that indicate some6 admitted dislike for Lockheed and suppliers of arms7 to Third World people. Chris Wolf, you found that out, didn't you? A: Yes.
ANIMOSITY EXPRESSED AFTER THE MURDER:
Wolf Deposition Wolf v Ramsey Q: Lin Wood A: Chris Wolf
Q. You wrote that John Ramsey is one of those who had been called the merchants of death; did you not? A. Yes, I wrote that.
*WOLF SHOWED PEDOPHILE TENDENCIES - (LETTER TO FOX NEWS): "We've seen the videos of the little girl in the costumes with the hip thrusts. Everyone who thinks a grown man couldn't possibly ever have sex with a six-year-old girl has got their head so far buried in the sand that that's exactly where it should remain so as to spare the rest of us the tyranny of their ignorance."
*WOLF HAD SHIRT WITH SBTC "SANTA BARBARA TENNIS CLUB" Q. Have you ever had a T-shirt or sweat shirt with the name Santa Barbara on it? A. Jackie's son gave me a T-shirt with the name Santa Barbara on it.
*BPD DISMISSED WOLF WITHOUT PROPER INVESTIGATION:
Wolf v Ramsey Case. Q: Lin Wood A: Chris Wolf
Wolf had no alibi, had to be hobbled yet still gave not information. No warrants were sought for his computer, clothing, or HiTec boots. He was not asked to take a lie detector test.
Wolf: "I had initially been pulled in when John Eller told me, "We have no interest in you in this case." The second time was when Carey Weinheimer told me, What are you worried about? You don't have anything to worry about"
SUSPECT SANTA BILL (WILLIAM MCREYNOLDS) - ENABLER:
* Q: Lin Wood A: Chris Wolf
Q. You received this letter; did you not, sir?
A. Yes, I did. I think I recall receiving this letter.
Q. And it told you that your academic advisor would be Bill McReynolds; did it not, sir?
A. Yes.
"The day before Christmas, JonBenet was at Megan's house playing (Perfect Murder Perfect Town PMPT Pg50sb)
JBR: "Santa Claus promised that he would make a secret visit after Christmas" (PMPT Pg50sb)
JonBenet insisted. "He said this would be after Christmas. And it's a secret." (PMPT Pg50sb)
"Looking back, I always thought that if anybody wanted to do major damage to this family, they could do it at Christmas, because they all adored Christmas. -Bill McReynolds" (PM,PT) P 292
www.acandyrose.com/s-neighbors-barbara-kostanick.htm
McReynold's own daughter had been 'kidnapped' 22 years to the day along with a friend. ODDLY, only the friend had been sexually accosted.
SUSPECT MICHAEL HELGOTH - MUSCLE MAN:
Helgoth had spliced together video clips. One was of a Santa Claus waking up a little girl. Mervyn Pugh, Linda's handyman husband, knew Michael Helgoth, an electrician. Helgoth told John Kenady at the end of November he had a "killer deal" to make fifty to sixty thousand dollars at the end of December with a partner to get the same amount. Helgoth was a sadist and a pedophile. The BPD ignored this information.
The BPD looked at Michael Helgoth's dead body and called it a "suicide'. However, Helgoth was right handed and the body was shot through a pillow into his left side in an upward trajectory. There were stun guns, Hi-Tec Boots and a hat with SBTC on it near his corpse. The autopsy revealed he had TWO strong DEPRESSANTS in his system and would have been barely conscious and unable to resist when shot.
@@auntsally3821💯💯💯 Linda Pugh also went on to sell her stories to tabloids and made a lot of money. Moved to Florida.
It’s obvious that Jon Ramsey and one of his sick friends did it and made/threatened Patsy to keep quiet and write that note or else! What’s so confusing about that, the evidence is right in front of faces and has been for years…John used his money and power to pay the DA off and get away with murder
Wow Nick, you’ve given us so many details and analyzed them all! You always do but thanks especially for this long video! You are so good at this. 😀
I really like your voice for the videos also Nick.
I think we all agree with the fact there was no intruder and something happened in the house involving the family/a family member. We just dont know what happened
@EierkopfFuchsgesicht
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I’m not sure we all agree? Wasn’t there DNA recovered from JB’s body that was never matched to anyone?
We do NOT all agree that that the Ramsey Family or any member thereof killed Jon Benet you are speaking for yourself, not for anyone else
@@sherripettigrew That DNA will never match anybody. It was a mix of people not one person. They are looking for a profile that does not exist. The DNA experts were clear, so was the lab. But the DA still exonerated them. Money talks.
@@sherripettigrew incorrect . There was three dna partial profiles . They were mixed and at that time technology was unable to separate and duplicate to form a full profile .grand jury did hand down indictments for John and Patsy Ramsey but John Ramsey had connections in Colorado and DA was instructed to not pursue it . John’s former friend Fleet White Eventually went public and publicly stated he believed there was corruption in this case . Just goes to show you the wealthy elite CAN in fact get away with murder .
In all the photos I have viewed of Patsy, she appears rather wild eyed.
As does Burke!
Her eye's spelled guilty to me
Very highly strung
I bet she was narcissistic and histrionic.
@@lovealain1 I'm glad you're so confident that a nine year-old boy had the strength, wherewithal and foresight to commit such a crime. How very American of you. Americans love blaming small children for the crimes their elders commit. You people certainly have bizarre notions about what constitutes the nature of American childhood.
Another well done. Thank You
I'm glad you're back to this case.
Same!! 💯💯
Me too.
Is what I was thinking 🤔
Who dresses a small child like that, adds make up and then parades her around on a stage? Right in the face! Please wake up
@agapelove992 Beauty pageants for young girls are very common and only someone with prurient interests would find anything wrong with it. They help develop poise, confidence and singing and dancing talents. Bathing suits and gymnast's outfits reveal more.
@@vernonfrance2974 excuse me? What exactly are you implying? I have daughters and they had many interests including dance, singing, music lessons, etc...none of which included tons of makeup and being paraded around dressed like moulin rouge entertainment on the rivre gauche 😡🤬
@@vernonfrance2974you are aware pageants also parade in bathing suits??? It is not ok to do it to children, they are children not adults. A 5 year old shouldn't have bleached hair and tons of make up on pretending she is adult. It's absolutely disgusting how an adult cannot see this is WRONG!!!
The Richer the more Dysfunctional Family!
Apparently you've never seen the TV show COPS
There are plenty dysfunctional broke families
that's rubbish
@@yeahB She's obviously isn't familiar with Summer Wells parents and grandmother. Pedophilia and murderers doesn't discriminate by income. This is so sad.
LINDA PUGH
1.RANSOM NOTE:
*PREMEDITATED and written PRIOR to the murder. LOU SMIT: " I think this note was written before the murder. It was written in a very calm, precise manner." Patsy would have been anything but calm. The ransom note original copy was then copied on Patsy's pad using her Sharpie. Linda Pugh knew where the pad and pen were kept.
The Ransom Note was found right where Patsy left her work instructions for Pugh on the bottom of the Spiral Staircase. Pugh knew Patsy went this way to the kitchen in the morning to make coffee.
*PUGH KNEW PATSY'S HANDWRITING AND EXPRESSIONS AND HAD MANY EXAMPLES OF THEM: "One of the ways in which Patsy Ramsey would communicate with me was through handwritten notes, which she would leave for me with instructions for various duties around the house that needed my attention. In the fourteen month period that I worked for the Ramsey's, I was left several dozen handwritten notes by Patsy Ramsey. I am quite familiar with her handwriting, and I believe I can recognize it with very little difficulty. The ransom demand asked that the money be put in an attach, with a proper accent mark over the last "e" in attach. "The Death of an Innocent."
*PUGH HAD IDENTICAL NOTE PADS AND PENS IN HER HOUSE: SEARCH OF PUGH'S HOUSE 12/26/96 www.acandyrose.com/s-linda-hoffmann-pugh.htm 12-26-1996 "Gave Cops Fred Patterson, Greg Idler: 3 Rolls Blk Tape, White Lined Note Pad that Came from Ramsey's house, 3 Felt Tip Pens, 2' narrow rope, A rope around a stick." Even an idiot police force should have realized the significance of this which is only one of many, many mistakes made by the BPD. WHY WAS SHE DROPPED AS THE TOP SUSPECT???????????
2. BED WETTING CONTRADICTION: Linda Pugh: "Patsy's just the most wonderful person I've ever met in my life."On National TV 1997. "She just put a plastic cover on the bed. No big deal to her. By the time I'd come in the morning, Patsy would have all the sheets off the bed and in the laundry. Lawrence Schiller, "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town."
*LATER CONTRADICTION: "You took her into the bathroom. It was the same destination you always took JonBenet when it was time to punish her for bedwetting. You forget that I saw you take her there so many times before, shutting the door tightly behind you, so her screams could not be heard." "The Death of an Innocent" Linda Pugh "www.reddit.com/.../linda_hoffmanpugh_started_to.../
*THE TRUTH: "Authorities spoke to every maid (WHICH INCLUDES PUGH) every babysitter, au pair, gardener, everyone who had interacted with the Ramseys, to find out the relationship among family members. Turns out that the family was very tight." www.dailymotion.com/video/x5x3wx4
3. INSIDER KNOWLEDGE - At Thanksgiving the Ramsey's went to NYC and left Linda Pugh and husband Mervyn with complete run of the house. They were to take Christmas trees upstairs, to wash windows and Mervyn, to fix the broken basement window.
With the RAMSEY'S away Pugh had access to every nook and cranny of the huge house. Pay stubs from '96 were left in drawers and every one had the "95 Christmas bonus of $118 thousand listed. Yet Pugh LIED again. She said she did not know about the room where JB was found but that is where she took the Christmas trees from at Thanksgiving when the Ramsey's were in NYC. "I didn’t even know that room was there. How could a stranger know to go there? How in the world did this happen?" -Linda Hoffmann-Pugh (p 238-9) SHE DID KNOW ABOUT THAT ROOM. SHE LIED.
4. *BURKE'S KNIFE: Pugh said that only she knew where she hid Burke's knife and then switched to only the Ramsey's knew where the knife was hidden. "After Thanksgiving I took that knife away from him and hid it in the cupboard just outside JonBenet's room. That's how that problem was solved." ”'That showed up where JonBenet was," said Hoffmann-Pugh. 'I would stake my life that an intruder wouldn't know to get that out of the cupboard. Someone took that knife out of the cupboard WHERE I PUT IT."' "Hoffmann-Pugh SAID SHE DIDN'T TELL JONBENET'S PARENTS WHERE SHE STOWED THE KNIFE." www.acandyrose.com/s-evidence-knives.htm
5. THE LOAN "I was supposed to come back the next day, December 24, and clean up. I called Patsy and said I couldn’t. I told her I had a fight with my sister and needed some money to pay the rent. I asked Patsy for a $2,000 loan. I told her I would pay it back $50 each week." "PM,PT" So she was afraid to get evicted but SHE DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO COME GET THE MONEY.
6. BASEMENT WINDOW She said she didn't know about the broken basement window John broke in the summer although her husband Mervyn was supposed to fix it at Thanksgiving when the Ramsey's were in NYC. She helped Patsy clean up the broken glass. SHE LIED.
7. SBTC She told the police John had a plaque with SBTC on it but the name of the Philippine naval base where John received it was called Naval Base SUBIC BAY and NOT Subic Bay Training Center. Two co-conspirators had items of clothing with SBTC on them. (Chris Wolf, sweat shirt and Michael Helgoth, hat) SHE LIED.
8. FECES ON CANDY BOX She originated the story about JB's Christmas candy box being covered with feces but she was not in the house after the 23rd. She said: "After they sealed off JonBenet's room, the crime scene technicians went through it, they apparently found feces smeared on a box of candy she had got for Christmas." HOW COULD SHE HAVE BEEN PRIVY TO THE WORK OF THE CRIME SCENE TECHNICIANS?" www.thesun.co.uk/.../jonbenet-ramseys-disturbed.../ "JohnBenet Case - Damaged Elevator Door & Possible Unflushed Toilet." While Patsy was shown photos #243-245, the sworn deposition about the matter of the basement toilet was conducted by Det. Tom Haney and Prosecutor Trip DeMuth in which they questioned Patsy about it.
PR: I specifically asked Linda sometime in the not so distant future to go down and and clean that bathroom because I think one of the boys had used it and not flushed it."
Staging the crime scene would explain the feces smearing WHY HASN'T THE BPD RUN DNA tests on them?
9. PUGH KNEW SANTA BILL who told Jonbenet he was going to bring her a present after Christmas. "I stuck around with my daughter Ariana to see Santa. This year Mrs. Claus was there too. Santa looked kind of sick." PM,PT" 00. 1996-12-24: JBR: "Santa Claus promised that he would make a secret visit after Christmas" (PMPT Pg50sb) 00. 1996-12-24: JonBenet insisted. "He said this would be after Christmas. And it's a secret." (PMPT Pg50sb)
"Looking back, I always thought that if anybody wanted to do major damage to this family, they could do it at Christmas, because they all adored Christmas. -Bill McReynolds" (PM,PT) P 292www.acandyrose.com/s-neighbors-barbara-kostanick.htm
10.*PUGH CALLED JONBENET "A SPOILED BRAT." 1999-02-18: “Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, JonBenet and the City of Boulder” Page 198-202 Linda Hoffman-Pugh Story "JonBenet acted like A SPOILED BRAT."
Police in Boulder at the time wore the same Hi - Tech Boots, same as the boot Print found. Also they use the same Mag flash light found.
Great title. I can tell this is going to be good 👍
Why did Patsy ring the police and not John. John was the calmer of the two, according to police. Plus, the ransom note was addressed to him?
IMO I think she made the call as she was the one making the decisions to stage the crime... sticking to the idea that “Mom” wakes up first, finds the ransom note therefore she be the one to make the call.
That a couple good points
That is a good point. She must have felt she was in control of the big coverup, especially if she thought John was the more guilty of the two. In a real kidnapping scenario, it's easy to imagine that a businessman like John would take the lead in making the 911 call. And why would anyone read a ransom note and return it to the stair step as if they never picked it up? Are we to picture them on their hands and knees reading that long letter? If you were to find a letter about your missing child, wouldn't you be wringing it in your hands trying to make sense of it?
Great question
Not Patsy, you don't need paintbrush knowledge to snap one into three pieces and attach some cord :/
But the paintbrush had been whittled i.e that means the paint chipped off with a penknife. The scouts toggle thing had been lying around, Burke was reported by the housekeeper making scout projects with his penknife which involved a piece of cord
I know what whittling is and who didi it, all the more reason it shouldn't be attributed to Patsy just because she used paintbrushes to paint
Not convinced Burke was involved in whittling or toggle making for the purpose of this crime. Always a chance that the killer/stager grabbed items that Burke had played with before and thought “these will do just fine.” And kids bring all sorts of little treasures into the house -maybe the nylon cord (that has no original source) was just a small length of cord that Burke found somewhere and brought into the home. Then the parents used it to stage the scene.
No he certainly didn't make it for the purpose of the crime
Lol the age of the internet, when someone comments back to define “whittled”....😆💀
It's weird how the father says the quote:"You have to move on" .... and after his daughter and wife death #remarried for the #third #time.
I think that says a lot about his reactions, always in control in the interviews, without a single bit of a tear running from his eyes.... when these horrible things happens it's strange to see an individual saying:"You have to move on", especially when it's from the parent of the deceased Child.
I didn’t know he remarried. He dumped Natalee Holloway’s mother because she wasn’t grieving fast enough for his liking!
Look at the big picture.all evidence leads to John. (Nancy Drew channel) zoomed John's usual handwriting and the note. 100% John's handwriting.... John had a plan he would fly Burke and Patsy to their other house then fly back to get rid of her little body. No police.... His note said... If you ring police your daughter will be killed...Patsy read we have kidnapped your daughter... And as any mother would do she panicked and ran to find JonBenet....Patsy rang police. I believe John gestured to Patsy to put the phone down. John had assumed Patsy had read all the note but she hadn't. I believe John changed his plan as police were coming to the house and messed up the crime scene. I believe John told Patsy to ring their friends to come round. Everyone touched his note.
@@rubyparchment5523 How do you know his reason for allegedly "dumping" Natalee Holloway's mother?
I think it was a ritualistic murder and I don’t think they practice true Christianity ? I think they might be worshipping something else far darker just my thoughts?!!
@@rubyparchment5523is that true!? I never heard that 🤔
I wonder if anyone is keeping low-key tabs on Burke these days. Watched many of your videos and always appreciate them!
Great video! Jonbenet ate pineapple- that’s a fact and a very important fact. Extremely unlikely that an intruder would’ve fed her pineapple. Pineapple means JonBenet either never went to bed or got up after John put her in bed. The fact that the duct tape and rope could not be found in the home doesn’t mean too much to me. They could’ve hidden it well, Or could’ve been hiding in plain sight and disposed of it later. When was the house searched? Was Patsys purse ever searched?
There are always unanswered questions. Things we will never know, usually involves missing evidence such as in the OJ Simpson case - the million dollar question is what did he do with the clothes, the knife, the shoes?
Also, it's unlikely of all the late night snacks, an intruder would prepare JonBenet one of her favorites. Someone who knew her well, or she felt comfortable enough to ask, would, however.
I remember reading or hearing that OJ’s good friend Kardashian had carried a satchel or bag of some sort away. Also that the bags he had take to his trip didn’t all come back with him. He could have very easily dumped at the airport before leaving. They didn’t get ahold of him until he was loaned and at the hotel. He could have also gotten rid of it in the other town. There’s no way it would have been found in either scenario.
@@retalbtaylor370 there is a older man who claims that he saw OJ stuffing things in a garbage can- the items were out of a small black bag- at the airport that night.
HEATHER,. The pineapple is important because it is a dieretic,. which promotes urination,. and JBR likey wet the bed or elsewhere,. Patsy may have lost it.🐩
@@dorothymason8882 who f-ing loses it over bed wetting? It happens. Mothers know that!
The metallic clanking could have been caused by the grate above the basement window being dropped!
Yes, that's a possibility too. Although that's metal on metal.
@@TCRS Is that spiral a peadophijle symbol on the man"s head? I think it is on the FBI chart.
@@paulinesterry7810 what man’s head?
@@pamela0924 In the opening graphics. Maybe it"s not there anymore
there was a cobweb going from the grate to the brick below unbroken. It was never opened that night.
If she was hit by a brick they would find particles of dust in her scalp
Jon Ramsey is always in the background letting Patsy fight the battle
If they could have pinned this on the Ramseys, they would have. They've had decades.
if she had pineapple in her stomach she ate pineapple, there are no 2 ways about it, so how can Patsy deny giving it to her if her prints and Burk's prints were on that bowl? The bowl was on the table uneaten, why would someone prepare milk and pineapple and not eat it? Unless the person that was suppose to eat it was disturbed, like chasing the sister?
Yes very strange
I think that’s the most probable scenario.
Just because someone's fingerprints are on a bowl doesn't mean they touched it that same day or night. Patsy could've put it in the cupboard a week ago and Burke pulled it out that night after they got home to make pineapple and milk. And maybe then JB ate some of it with a spoon without touching the bowl.
@@SusieQ1971Doesn't matter if Patsy prepared it or not, If Burke pulled it out of the cupboard and made himself pineapple and milk, why didn't he eat it? what disturbed him? That is what you should ask yourself.
@@arrivagabry the thing is, we don't know if anything did distrub him, we can only go with what's most likely according to what limited facts we have, it could be that he was distracted by wanting to go and play with his presents
Money or not money, that house is one ugly place. Every picture I’ve seen of it is not really a place I would want to live in.
I don't like the Ramsey house either. I'm a contractor in southern MA that works for a group wealthy friends from Boston to Newport. Sometimes the value is just based on location. One of my clients' Boston house is a brick 1920's house with many additions added on over the years and is very, very similar to the Boulder house. The whole street is dismal to me, all the houses are of that style, and I wouldn't buy that house in Boston for $440,000 never mind the $4.4 million Zillow Zestimates at. The neighborhood is close to downtown and the hospitals and this guy is on the board at Brigham and Women's. All the lots have mature landscape though, and are almost always over an acre in that neighborhood. S**t house, nice location. Many of my clients live between 3 and 4 houses in the area and maintenance is often forgotten or focused on which house they are living in more at the time. Some clients have strange taste too, it's like "you want me to do what to your house???" type of s**t.
Agreed.
@@justindupre7274 it’s so butt ugly, if I owned it I’d rather have to demolished and then build some thing else if the location is that good. When you see pics of it from behind or above it just looks like someone has tacked bits and pieces on over the years Willy nilly. Can’t imagine being “rich” and choosing that place to live in.
@@justindupre7274 So funny lol, I love you guys.....carpenters and such..you know yall are such a talented and special people! Because you've been gifted and can easily do it...you just cant envision what its like to be like, my husband and I, who no matter how hard we try,we just cannot get the job done!
Being longtime friends with a local homebuilder in our area
( we are in our 50's now) I've watched him through the years,he's even tried to help or instruct us ( he successfully taught me to slolum water ski in my teens) but in constructing anything or even remodeling..... there are some of us who shall never make ever the cut!
Its a gift!
I love watching your progress and seeing what you do !
I've often thought about Jesus and how before His ministry.... it is said He was a craftsman ,a builder and such....not really even sure if it was stone or wood!
But one thing for certain you guys are amazing and I hope you do what you do for the glory of God, and not just for the money or picky people cause that would really suck! 💙
Plus, messy house messy minds. Remember the old saying....... you can judge someone by how they look after their vehicle.
If Patsy was guilty, what kind of father would help cover it up?? JonBenet had also showed signs of past sexual damage..Why wasn't that investigated?
If Burke was guilty, what kind of parents would cover that up?
My take only - a father who was caught completely off guard and snowballed by the whole thing, who could not believe.....
I believe the sexual abuse was investigated, but the evidence was ambiguous, according to the autopsy report, with experts disagreeing.
Mk ultra government run torture based program. It's generational. Goes way back....lots of important famous people are involved. Kept secret for Maters of national security. It's quite nasty..still ongoing
Kind of unrelated but didn't John Ramsey remarry? Cant recall the name but it was the high profile case where the daughter went missing in Aruba on college class trip?
@@ziggypop8106 obviously mk ultra involved families get rich and famous and cover things up...lots of high ranking famous people involved. Even presidents..poppy .bush was nortious. It's horrifying and diabolical because some victim/assets believe they are living a normal life... but they have missing time.
I always thought that it was possible a "stranger" or at least a none family member killed Jonbenet. Subsequently, the family tried to cover for each other mistakenly.
Has anyone investigated the housekeeper?
My husband is an artist in the US and he always uses masking tape when preparing his art to be framed. For those who may not be familiar, Masking tape is a cream color lighter weight tape… Very different then duct tape. In the US we typically use duct tape for things that require a stronger, heavier tape…I wonder what kind of tape Patsy used for her art?
Masking tape I guess.
@jamieb4904 There was some duct tape on the back of photos Patsy had had framed. It was not the same as that used on JB's mouth however.
I have heard elsewhere that the tape was black gaffer's tape, not duct tape, this is often used to hold photos in place when matting them, and many other things. Not many people would have it routinely.
The duct tape was compared with the backing tape on the photos. None of that matched. Steve Thomas went all the way to North Carolina where the tape was manufactured but could not establish a match.
@@roringusanda2837 "The FBI had determined that the tape allegedly removed from JonBenét's mouth had first been manufactured in November 1996 under the brand name Suretape.The tape had a 40 percent calcium filler in the adhesive, and its yarn/scrim count of 20/10 helped pinpoint that Bron was the tape's distributor."
[Lawrence Schiller, Perfect Murder Perfect Town] page 1283-84 Digital Edition
Metal clanking was likely the metal grate on outside that leads to window in the basement
Maybe it was someone linked to the housekeeper.
Burke's long-ago response to the photo was very telling. He looks past the pineapple & cream to the tea mug. Then his single "oh" when attention was called to the pineapple. Also, why wouldn't Patsy just hold a pillow over JonBenet's face once her skull was fractured?
@@caroline61804 There is no evidence of conversation after the 911. People hear all kinds of things. Even if there is conversation, it can't all be right The FBI couldn't find it so??
How very American of you to scapegoat a nine year-old boy for the crimes of a full-grown adult.
😮😮😮😮omg wat a sicko... Ya a mom dying of stage 3 cancer, raped her baby??? U ppl insane.
@@maxalberts2003 If you dispute Suzanne’s conclusions, do so with evidence-not stupid ad hominem attacks. 🙄
I believe John & Patsy know (knew) what happened in this terrible accident (imo) just because they didn’t display enough PDA for some imo means nothing. Thank you TCRS
The true bill says they assisted in covering up 1st degree murder. That's intentional preplanned murder, not an accident.
What about the molestation of Jon Benet? Her moms covering for someone.
I can relate..I'm a lousy cook and home maker!
Why? Busy?
@@TCRS mostly because I don't enjoy it. I procrastinate until small tasks become large tasks lol. And cooking meh..I go through spells of liking it and hating it.
Sometimes houses can be too perfect and so do not feel homely. As long as its generally clean enough and tidy enough then that is ok, and that you do not feel overwhelmed. And then it does not matter what anyone else thinks. We can strive and strive and still our houses get messed up. Especially if we live with others. It is important to make time to do other things too. Housework can wait. As for cooking, do not beat yourself up about that either. We can't all be Gordon Ramseys or Delia Smiths. Just a simple basic healthy-ish diet is good enough. It does not need to be complicated. Take care.
@@robbirobin9657 thank you!😊
@@TCRS
WTH?
there was no intruder
sorry
To me her father was the mastermind behind all the media & patsy with her drama skills was his puppet .. but he pulled the strings
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Thank you for your extensive time on this case, I do think that Burke woke up Jon Benet to go downstairs to sneak to open Christmas presents that were stored down there and she threatened to go wake up mom and dad and tell on him, then he restrained her. My brother was 3 years older than me and a Boy Scout. Yep actually my mother was a den mother, I remember I was his patient when he applied first aid to me and all the ropes were confiscated by my mother because I was eventually hog tied! Been through all that and I didn’t like it one bit. The Sneaking to look for Christmas presents happened as well. He peaked, he offered to pay me not to tell lol, I laugh here because he didn’t have any money, I always did. I left I knew he would git caught. I didn’t peak. I think he hit her with a bat and he was too short to throw it out the window so he pulled the suitcase up there stood on it and threw the aluminum bat out the window under the grate, then after killing her, mr. curious went exploring if you know what I mean, gross! Then everything was staged after that. Yep, you have money and power in Colorado you can git away with murder. Sickening
If you are only nine, your parents might make sure you do get away with it. I don't know about the luring to open Christmas presents, but the rest sounds probable.
I’ve often wondered if Burke was sexually abusing her via playing doctor etc . And seeing that Burke hit her with a golf club once and also smeared his own feces in her bed . I can see him being maladjusted into “practicing “ his Boy Scout knots on her and him having that Asperger’s type hyper focusing on perfecting his interest and ability in typing knots and the garrot. Then add his uncontrolled anger I can see a 9 year old capable of that
the bat was not found under the grate, it was found outside the butler kitchen area on the north side of the house.
Ummm...okay...? Hang on, nursey's on her way with your meds and a nice warm drink.
@@maxalberts2003right??? lol! 😂
Or creative crime writing? Talk about projection!! Oy vey!
To hide preview sexual assaults they made the kind of garrote and the crime scene was displayed to pretend a pedophile intruder enter in the house. Also the cancer and the menthal health of the mother is important to consider.
Even the judge was in favor to help the Ramsey's.
IMO I believe PR wrote the note and that she never slept that night. From my readings it seems the kids didn’t really have a bedtime routine and allowed/left to do as they liked. IMO I think JR did go to bed and PR was the one who was still up packing while both kids still awake playing eating a snack. At some point PR was faced with finding JB already dead after a terrible display of rough play with “someone” and she went into panic mode to protect that person. With PR clothing particles found on JB body I think they were transferred when PR checked JB for any signs of life and found none. Now, knowing she was dead with bindings on her hands and choked already to death with a garrote, PR went into a frantic cover up mode. IMO PR covered JB with her favorite blanket/nightgown maybe even placed the tape over her mouth as her mind was set to make this a staged/Kidnapping to protect another. IMO I don’t believe PR choked her daughter to death and fashioned that garrote. JB didn’t died from the blow to her head no outward signs of blood or skin even broken so that’s why IMO PR didn’t do this. JB did struggle against the garrote as evidence of her own nail marks on her neck as she tried to grasp at the cord around her neck. I just don’t think PR was that kind of a monster, to watch her daughter struggle like that. As they say no blood or broken skin to the head was visible so why stage this all ??? IMO JB had to have been found dead by her mother already and then started the cover up with the ransom note, tape, blanket and nightgown next to her. IMO the tape was part of the staging because of the mucus found that dripped from JB nose/mouth underneath the tape so it was placed on JB after death. IMO that’s why PR clothing fibers were found on the sticky side of that tape. I have an open mind on the case even still and as a mother myself (I would still rather believe in an intruder theory just because this is so gruesome on many levels. I have a very hard time getting behind the idea that PR was the actual killer and did “everything” herself over an accidental blow to JB head. Nor do I believe PR would even think of fashioning those kinds of knots and fashion a garrote and choke her daughter while she watched JB scratching at that cord and adding onto stabbing JB genitalia. Sorry I don’t see a mother doing all those things to her daughter with life left in her. I think PR would have called 911 if she found JB unconscious with a faint pulse/heartbeat and would find a clever enough way to explain away why her daughter fell. As a mother she would have had an opportunity to possibly save her daughter and I do believe PR would have done so if given the opportunity. I believe she loved/cherished JB dearly.
ShellyMama2: The word is choking, not chocking.
I believe she adored her daughter and was broken throughout every interview. 🙏🏻
@@elizabethpease947 thanks Elizabeth, for correcting me! I think or would hope the reader’s knew my intention. PS ya’ll I’m okay with not being perfect 👌🏻I did intend to type “choking”
@@LalaMama272 I agree with this theory , and I don’t see her torturing her own daughter and sexually molesting her with paintbrush . This all
Looks like either staging or somebody playing a dirty game… ugh incest between siblings maybe but Burke was too young for this .
@@phoebephoebs6548 Unfortunately, in SA cases within families siblings are more likely to be abusers than parents. As for his age, Burke was one month short of ten, young boys do commit crimes of this nature, they do use objects, and James Bulgar’s sad case is a good indication of what two small ten-year-old boys can do when they want to hurt a child smaller than they are. I agree with LalaMama that Patsy did not torture or SA her daughter.
Ever notice how John Ramsey never misses a beat? 3 marriages...2 dead daughters...just keeps on...doesn't ever seem to grieve....It's like he doesn't really feel love at all...only simulates it. If I lost my wife and my daughter...the last thing I would do is run out and get remarried.
I keep thinking of the evidence item described as "canvas bag from crawl space". I wonder what the significance was of that. Also the steering wheel taken as evidence.
Is it true that John found JonBenèt's body at about 11am that morning and told his elder daughter's fiance but he never told anyone else? I read that Detective Arndt said that John disappeared for almost 1 and a half hours and when he returned his whole demina has changed. Why didn't he say anything? Did he somehow realize after he found her body that his wife was involved and he was in shock?
1pm.
He was probably trying to cover up the crime for an hour and a half. If so, it must have been horrifying, enough to affect his demeanor. It's hard to say if he thought his wife or son had done it. I doubt if he would go to these lengths for his spouse. I know I wouldn't. I probably would cover for my child though.
I think Peter Hyatt' s analysis of Patsy Ramsey's first interview is spot on. There is so much against the parents version of events. John Ramsey has that terrible smug look. Half smile. He really gets on my nerves.
Yesss !!
They should've had more than one housekeeper for that big house and a full-time Chef, I'm sure they could afford it
Can you please do a in-depth videos on Marilyn Monroe & princess Diana!!?!
Uhh, John married a year after patsy died... 🤔 I think I would wait a bit longer if I had a "loving/good" marriage. Seems pretty quick to me! 🤷🏼♀️ Idk.. what about you? Are we sure that they weren't seeing each other before? He cheated on his first wife before...
I would love to know why John Ramsey and his first wife divorced. I wonder what kind of husband/father he was and his demeanor. She'd be a wealth of knowledge to his psyche I think.
Apparently he had an affair. Could be the reason?
People often divorce when they lose a child. Too much blame, too many memories and daily reminders. It happens a lot. You would think they would cling to each other, but it often doesn't work that way.
@@pattyp3589 Patsy was 14 years younger than him. It gave me the imression he likes them young.
@@ruthcuratolo9383 He was already divorced and with Patsy when he lost his first doughter
@@aa.4639 he lost TWO DAUGHTERS?! That’s more than odd!
It sounds like someone is trying to gaslight everyone into believing that there was "trouble in the Ramsey marriage." A logical explanation for the Ramsey's having "so many support people" is that, if they were present, they were way less likely to be involved in the kidnapping plot.
They stayed together because they both were protecting their son !!!.
So sorry for all the comments but your video is so good and triggers so many thoughts that I just can't help it.
Toggle rope. What is weird to me is that obviously someone changed that "leash" to a garrote. Somebody had the guts to strangle that girl with real force. It's very difficult to imagine that parents could do this unless they were already known to be criminal. But then they top it off with VERY LOOSE ties around the wrists, as if to say "don't want it to hurt her". Makes zero sense.
Yes it is difficult to imagine her parents doing that. But the evidence of an intruder just really isn’t there. The evidence points more toward her parents. The DNA that was found is so minute. They call it touch and it is a mixture of DNA. It could’ve come from anywhere, it could’ve come from the people in Indonesia who made the underwear. For many years I thought there’s no way her parents to do this. But when I really dug into it, Started doing the research, I realized it was probably her parents covering up an accident or Molestation or incest. It’s hard to believe, it’s sad to believe, but when you look at the evidence And the sequence of events it all leads to her parents, an inside job. There is no question in my mind that Patsy wrote the ransom note. The fact that they deny that she had pineapple before she went to bed is an obvious lie.
There’s no way an intruder fed her pineapple.
It was all staged - the garotte, and the bindings.Maybe the suitcase and basement grate. She was killed by a blunt instrument like a bat or heavy flashlight.
@@heatherswendsen5901 parents moleste their own children and parents kill their own children . Susan Smith , Casey Anthony , Chris watts . Just because they are the wealthy elite doesn’t mean they are above murdering their own child
@@ruthcuratolo9383 the crack in Jon Bonets skull is consistent with the large mag flashlight seen in the initial crime scene photos but then was never found and logged into evidence the following day
@@SD0224 and people are taken from their homes: Elizabeth smart
The judge knew even less about science that Steve Thomas so go figure.
Earlier that night John put Burke to bed by flashlight. ?
Good afternoon Nick. Nice Friday surprise.😃
This is the first time I've every heard of Pugh. Ive been reading about this case since it happened. This is the first time I've even heard about any of the paid help.
Good Job ! On this one ! Plenty of Soul Searching !
Thanks for listening
The pyjama bottoms on the bathroom floor (perhaps evidence of bedwetting) and the pineapple in Jonbenet's duodenum make me suspect Patsy of being involved in the initial serious head trauma. It takes 3-5 hours for food after swallowing to enter the duodenum so that rules out Burke hitting her over the head immediately after pinching some of his pineapple. The hand made ''garrotte'' may have been constructed with the help of John due to the knot, they had hours to stage the crime scene before calling the police . Just my speculations and thoughts, I have not read any books on the case so could be way off.
The only problem I have with that is why wasn’t there blood if the blow came first? That and the hi-tech shoe print is the only thing keeping me from being 100% convinced the Ramseys are guilty
@Lisa Kaye , because it was internal bleeding.
All evidence leads to John.....you have to look at the big picture....(Nancy Drew channel) zoomed in on John's usual handwriting and the note. 100% John's. John had a plan...to fly Burke and Patsy to their other house then fly back to get rid of her little body. Patsy only read.,.we have kidnapped your daughter. Patsy called police. John assumed she read if you call police your daughter will be killed but Patsy only read the first line as all mothers would. Police were coming to the house so John had to change his plan. John's new plan was to mess the crime scene up. Autopsy revealed long term S abuse. I believe John took Jon Benet to the basement and allowed her to have a piece of pineapple. At this point John knew nothing of the autopsy. I believe John staged the table to confuse and lead police in a different direction. He put a bowl Burke used and with Burke and Patsy's fingerprints on as a red herring.
@@lisakaye3919 I agree with you about the blow to the head not coming first. There was a LOT of other things found in the house not traced to the Ramsey's. The most significant was the DNA found in THREE different locations. Under JB's fingernails, in her underpants and on the leggings near the waistband. None of that DNA was from the Ramsey's.
"The black duct tape used on JonBenet's mouth has also not been sourced to defendants. (SMF ¶ 170; PSMF ¶ 170.) Both ends of the duct tape found on her were torn, indicating that it came from a roll of tape that had been used before. (SMF ¶ 171; PSMF ¶ 171.) No similar duct tape was found in the house, nor is there evidence that defendants ever used or owned such duct tape. (SMF ¶ 172; PSMF ¶ 172.) Plaintiff also notes that the strip of duct tape found on JonBenet's mouth *1332 had a bloody mucous on it and a "perfect set of child's lip prints, which did not indicate a tongue impression or resistance." (PSDMF ¶ 53.) Animal hair, alleged to be from a beaver, was found on the duct tape. (SMF ¶ 183; PSMF ¶ 183.) Nothing in defendants' home matches the hair. (SMF ¶ 183; PSMF ¶ 183.) Dark animal hairs were found on JonBenet's hands that also have not been matched to anything in defendants' home. (SMF ¶ 184; PSMF ¶ 184.)
Several recently-made unidentified shoeprints were found in the basement, imprinted in mold growing on the basement floor. (SMF ¶ 151; PSMF ¶ 151.) In particular, a shoeprint of a "HI-TEC" brand mark on the sole of a shoe was found. (SMF ¶ 152; PSMF ¶ 152.) Defendants do not own any "HI-TEC" brand shoes, and none of the shoes found in their home match the shoeprint marks. (SMF ¶ 153; PSMF ¶ 153.) Another partial shoeprint was found near where JonBenet's body was found. (SMF ¶ 155; PSMF ¶ 155.) This shoeprint left only a partial logo. The owner of the "HI-TEC" shoe that made the shoeprints at the murder scene has never been identified. (SMF ¶ 154, 155; PSMF ¶ 154, 155.) In addition, on the wine-cellar door, there is a palmprint that does not match either of defendants' palmprints. (SMF ¶ 156; PSMF ¶ 156.) The individual to whom it belongs had not yet been identified. (SMF ¶156; PSMF ¶ 156.)
Finally, items were left behind that defendants assert they did not own. (Defs.' Br. In Supp. Of Summ. J. [67] at 18-19.) A baseball bat not owned by the Ramseys found on the north side of the house has fibers consistent with fibers found in the carpet in the basement where JonBenet's body was found. (SMF ¶ 185; PSMF ¶ 185.) A rope was found inside a brown paper sack in the guest bedroom of defendants' home, neither of which belonged to defendants. (SMF ¶ 181; PSMF ¶ 181.) Small pieces of the brown sack material were found in the "vacuuming" of JonBenet's bed and in the body bag that was used to transport her body. (SMF ¶ 181; PSMF ¶ 181.) Brown cotton fibers on JonBenet's body, the paintbrush, the duct tape and on the ligature were not sourced and do not match anything in the Ramsey home. (SMF ¶ 181; PSMF ¶ 181.)
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This was from the Wolf v Ramsey Libel Trial which the Ramsey's won.
All evidence leads to John. John wrote the note ( Nancy Drew channel) closely examined the note and John's usual handwriting.100% it's John's. John knew how to make a garrote and knots. John knew how to make a garrote and knots. John wrote in his book that Patsy had no idea what amount of bonus he had. John wrote in the note....if you contact police we will kill your daughter. John left his note on their stairs to their bedroom. Patsy only read...we kidnapped your daughter. Burke said his mother was crying my baby my baby to his room and around the house. Patsy called police. I believe John gestured to Patsy to put the phone down. This is the point I believe John changed his plan. John didn't know Patsy only read the first line.
Yes that's been my way of thinking too, yet the popular consensus by word and writing analysts is that awoman wrote the note and that it's not John's writing, also it is said that patsy was ambidextrous
Did the grand jury know that the DA would go against their decisions before he announced it to the public?
Cover ups come to mind with the reputation he had.
I doubt it.
Fleet White who was with John Ramsey when he “found” Jon Bonets body felt from day one the scene was staged . He also publicly stated that he felt that the Ramsey’s connections with LE and the DA was extremely suspect and that there was corruption going on in this case
This should be titled vindictive housekeeper lies for revenge and clout.
The housekeeper did everything but the laundry. Patsy had stashed all over her house, urine and excrement soiled sheets and underwear . i think the housekeeper would have been weary by all the mess. She would clean and come back to the same size mess everyday. Patsy was a slob.
We're they drinking alcohol at the neighbors Christmas party?
If I was a guessing woman...
Good question. Who doesn't?
I envision patsy as overindulging at these parties , perhaps she lashed out in a fit of anger at something that night, or was passed out still in her clothes, while Jon benet met her fate.Thats just what I can imagine from my intuition, which could be way off🤷♀️
Good question, I've often thought about that. If John Ramsey was driving you'd think he wasn't. Not sure of US drink driving rules but in UK it is very strict.
@@ziggypop8106 They were in the neighborhood. Probably just 1 or 2 blocks away. Residencial and no traffic. No one should drink and drive. I think he would have driven that short distance under the influence.
Duct tape was linked to Ramseys. Although indirectly because DA stopped major investigations as in;. The duct tape price was linked to a store and credit card of Ramseys. But again prosecution stopped a lot of electronic clarity.
@ 8:17 timestamp the books in the photo are the same words in the ransom note. I find that to be odd. It's like the writer of the ransom note was searching for something to put in the note and did so by using the titles of the books. Patsy Ramsey was a journalist therefore making her my number one suspect as the writer of the ransom note. The handwriting analysis pointed to her.
I think they may be a pile of books written about the case in the years following the murder? But did you see Nick's video about the ransom note being made up of quotes from kidnapping films. The TH-cam video is brilliant. I recommend it.
It’s not what you think it’s what it is, it’s a garrote.
The child was her mother’s life. I can’t imagine Patsy killed her
I think it is not possible that the blow to her head came first because of the small amount of blood that was found in the scull. Strangulation must have come first and she probably was already dead or near death when she received the blow to the head. I also exclude an accident like falling down the stairs, because every parent would call 911 and hope their child can be saved.there is also no reason to cover up an innocent accident. I believe she either died during a sexual abuse that included strangulation or she was strangled because one of the parents snapped and strangled her probably patsy!
Wth is wrong with some of you ppl.? They did the stupid things they did bc they did it!!! And as far as the staging , they thought they were smart trying to do the things they thought criminal kidnappers , burglers , pedo,s ,and ransome note writers would do.
I agree.
Deciding on the scenario that was going to be put forward and sticking to it had to have been a formidable task. Thank you for talking about that here. Just about nobody discusses it. The Ramseys did it whereas Watts didn't. I think this shows a lot about what ego, life's successes, education and wealth can do for you, whether you are an upstanding citizen or a cheat. The Ramseys were cheats because they weren't honest about their own family.
Watts DIDNT do it?
@@TangledTrueCrime She's a Watts groupie. Because you know, "he's hot...."
I'm assuming there were no security cameras on their street or alley?
Hi Nick! 👋
Considering this happened so long ago, that kind of technology was not very common
Yes back in 1996 not a lot of homes had home cameras. They didn't really start being used till the end of the 90s/2000's. It's definitely not like today where anyone can afford a doorbell camera or regular cameras around their homes. I don't know anyone who had cameras back in 96 with the exception of stores etc. I dont know of cameras being used on streets at that time either. I do know of people who had security systems but theirs wasn't on that night.
In my opinion, patsy wrote the ransom note. There was some type of accidental Injury caused to jonbenet by patsy, which she was at fault for. I believe at the point of the skull fracture she was assumed dead. The staging of the strangulation came shortly there after - unfortunately she was still alive. Then patsy wrote the ransom note, no one else would write a 2.5 page ransom note using patsy pad and pen then put them back.
Do brain fingerprints on John and Burke to find out the real story.
I’d really like to know more about the plea bargain deal with patsy where she claimed Jonbenet fell down the stairs and hit her head on a blunt object.
From the very beginning, I felt that Burke did it. I think he was jealous of Jon Benet for many reasons, and he seemed a bit odd to me. His behaviors were more in alignment with a 5 year old instead of a 9 year old. His behavior and demeanor at the funeral was also bazaar. Perhaps the two kids got up after being put to bed and something happened to trigger him attacking her with a bat or other object. If Patsy heard something and arose to investigate, finding the death scene, I think she would have first been angry, but then gone into protection mode. She’s lost her favorite child, but doesn’t want to additionally lose her son. This is a woman who wouldn’t have a clue how a ransom note is written and therefore overdid it. She certainly ordered her son to go to bed and forget it. Put it out of your mind! And he did! She didn’t think about how odd the note being on the lower stairs would be. Fanned out all neat and orderly. I think that John, being an intelligent man, probably suspected the truth, but didn’t want to believe what his rational side was telling him. I could ramble on and on, but I think you understand my reasoning here. Quite possibly there’s many of us that might try to protect our remaining child. Even in interviews as an adult, Burke does not act or speak the way you might expect when discussing the event. He even smiles and laughs too much. Anyway, that’s MY take on it.
Steve Thomas is spot on.
Patsy had suffered twice from ovarian cancer,maybe the physical side of their marriage was gone.
1) Disarrayed house? Seen many without any murders.
2) Husband berating wife?? Witnessed many. Still, no murders.
Don’t see the relevance. Spouses can say the most hurtful things at times. I will give them a free pass on this.
Why wasn’t she available that day for court? Didn’t the lawyer subpoena her?
They are rich. Why wasn't the house decorated. AND cleaned by the housekeeper. She would have known blanket in dryer. Was she married? If so her husband would have known the house
That handwritten note solved it for me..Patsy
I always had a feeling this lady was actually involved with her husband or brother or son, and they did the killing, while housekeeper wrote the note. If had to be someone close and who knew how jon and Patsy talk, among other info in the letter.