I came from the bushnell deal on Reddit and I have to say, I really enjoyed this review, very well done. One thing that I would have liked to see is the magnification values at the bottom of each scope you are comparing just to reinforce where you are when you show the difference between magnifications and FOV because it could be a little confusing at times (maybe I’m just special). Overall great video, definitely will be subscribing and look forward to future reviews!
Snipershide has a recent review worth checking out too. They compared the MPED with several other brands of scopes in the sub $1000 price point. What people don't know is the MPED and Match Pro with illuminated reticle only have a 5 year warranty on their electronics and didn't read the Better Business Bureau Bushnell Outdoor complaints.
Compared to the Athlon Midas Tac 6-24x50 side by side at distances past 700+ yards, the Athlon is the better quality scope in regards to glass/ image quality on high magnification and has noticeably better turrets a fantastic scope when they go on sale for around $450. The Ares BTR Gen 2 4.5-27x50 that's currently on sale for $565.49 is even better than the Midas Tac and a lot better than the MPED in regards to image quality even though they use HD glass compared to the ED glass used in the Bushnell and both Athlons share the same stainless steel reliable turrets. Athlon's lifetime warranty is better than Bushnell's since it includes lifetime coverage even for their electronics for their illuminated reticles. The Bushnell may seem like it's a nice scope if you don't already have these specific Athlons to compare it to or if you haven't bought the much cheaper Viridian Xactus 5-30x56 for under $600 that has nicer glass (though not as clear as the Athlons) and similar locking turrets with second rotation pop up rev indicator compared to the MPED and has a better lifetime warranty.
I think it's very funny that the illumination goes to 11 and no off position after that. "This one goes to 11" and if you're at max, you're not turning it off baby! All gas no brakes!
There is an “ off “ position after EVERY level, that is the “ dot “ position. Apparently you have never owned such devices or even something remotely similar.
Another great review. I have the regular (non ED) Match Pro which does have the off setting in between different illumination settings. I have been extremely impressed with this scope. It would have been interesting to see how the regular Match Pro versus the MPED would have matched up.
The turrets on the cheaper Match Pro is better than the MPED. These two Match Pro and their new MPED version don't appear to be made at the same Chinese factory. The cheaper one felt more robust too. I like the Bushnell Engage better than both the Match Pro and MPED. For some strange reason the glass used in their 6-24x50 Engage seems clearer.
This thing is a boss for the money! Thank you for the excellent detailed review and comparisons that really put things in perspective. Wish they made a 3-15 or 3-18 lol.
I snagged up a Bushnell Forge 2.5-15x50 SFP with Deploy MOA reticle on sale a few years back. I have it on my 270 Win for matches and hunting. This scope is so awesome I've dialed and hit steel to 1220 yards with excellent clarity in the woods, beautiful field of view on 2.5-5x with the SFP reticle it doesn't disappear when needing to take a shot on lower power. I love it so much I snagged a second Forge, 4.5-27x50 FFP Deploy MOA illuminated. I see the MP 6-24x50 FFP Mil on sale for over half off on MOA versions and tempted to snag one up before they are gone even though I shoot with MOA optics.
Great review! Now I think my choice is made! I have gone back and forth an this helped me decide now my wife and friends can get a rest on what to buy!
Since you already got the the stryker5-30 , the tract 4.5-30, might be great to take a look at the athlon Cronus since those three are really from the same design and blue prints? Great review as always !
23:43 you can see the centre floating dot better with the Toric and this is at 30x The Deploy 2 and the G4P reticles by bushnell have a very tight floating dot that needs at least 22x magnification to clearly distinguish it and wanna aim with the dot. Be nice to know what scopes you review that have a useable centre dot back at 12-18x
Man I need a excel sheet top to bottom of your favorites. I just purchased a Swampfox Kentucky Long after watching one of you videos then an hour later watched the Anthlon one and I regret buying the swampfox already even though it hasnt shipped yet lol. I am debating cancelling and switching. Not that these are in the same price range but I am going to watch every one of your videos before my next purchase.
Awesome review! your reviews are so in-depth and highly informative. I just subscribed to your channel. Thank you for doing the reviews, and please keep them coming! Best reviews on YT IMO.
Great review bro! I know I will probably get laughed at but. Chinese scope quality seems to be getting better. ie the Vector Continental 34mm. I cannot afford glass that is 1000 and up, my most expensive is the Delta Stryker which is awesome. But have you reviewed the: Discovery ed-prs 5-25x56. The ED scopes from this line is phenomenal. Few years ago I said I will never buy a scope with a name like this but when I got one for free I bought the entire line of their ED versions the next month.
Stellar scope review. Thanks for the thorough and impartial review. I'd love to see this compared to a Strike Eagle 5-25x FFP, just because I have a couple of them and like them.
Solid reviews; often enjoy them so nice work. I happen to know the guy behind these Bushnell's and let him know about this. He tipped his hat and said that he recognizes the effort it takes to do them. What about it's baby brother scope?
I just grabbed this and a Nightforce 20 MOA 1.5" mount based on your review, as usual...because you rock dude. Throwing it on my new 18" 6 Arc build in progress. Hope it works out. Thanks for review man. 🤟🇺🇲
love the review! and perfectly timed as i was looking for more info on the MPED. damn shame the stryker and Toric we're as great as the hype as i was considering the two, but makes my buying decision even easier as the MPED is half the price in my area of the world.
Snipershide has another excellent detailed review on the Match Pro ED compared to many other different brands of scopes in the under $1000 price point and X-RING on TH-cam has another good review where he even did some very minor drop tests to see if zero was affected.
I'd recommend a brand new Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 illuminated RD MRAD FFP currently on sale for only $699.99 with free shipping from Scopelist and EuroOptic. I have the Tract Toric ELR 4.5-30x56 and an Athlon Cronus too. The difference is they are made in Japan vs China for the MPED and the Tract Toric ELR and Athlon Cronus have a lifetime warranty including their electronics illuminated reticles while the Match Pro ED only has a limited 5 year warranty on their electronics illuminated reticle and auto shut off and I really don't know if Bushnell even has the ability nor desire to even fix them past their 5 year limited warranty even if the customers are willing to pay to fix.
I think I've asked before, but I'm not sure if you've answered. Your mil grid lines up well with most scopes, but is there any chance the discrepancy in tracking is due to the differences in what a milradian is as defined by various organizations? It can vary from between 6283.185 mils in a real unit circle, 6400 mils by NATO standards, or even 6000 in Warsaw Pact mils.
Snipershide did a recent review and found it was 1/10 of a mil off. It's a very good article to read as the MPED was tested against many other different brands of scopes in the sub $1000 category. Unfortunately the MPED ranked in last place in overall image quality compared to it's peers.
I hope they get some other reticle options out. Really like the ebr7c, and something close to it would be absolutely phenomenal. Doubt it would happen, but I’ll keep my fingers crossed
At what magnification does the floating dot in the centre become useable. It looks like you have to be dialed in to max magnification to see it, but that’s watching this video.
I wonder what I’m sacrificing if I return my unused Elite tactical XRS3, G4P for this exact MPED? (Apart from XRS3 doesn’t have illuminating reticle, has longer parallax, has more zoom than MPED, weighs 200g more than MPED , doesn’t have both locking turrets, has less user friendly zero stop and rev indicator. Regarding Optical performance and tracking, and reliability, is there any noticeable difference between MPED and XRS3?
33:12 - What about Hardcore-Tactics "Mag-Pantsu"? 37:47 - Hey!! Offer still stands. Send me Princess Butttercup; you get the Razor to keep. Let's throw down and do the trade. (Joking, I know how attached the fuzzball is to you. But it makes for a good Socratic argument: "Do whatever makes you happy.")
By far the best review I've seen! Amazing work! I am currently running a Vortex Venom for NRL22, would this be a worthwile upgrade in your opinion? (I feel like I can guess the answer, but my desire to upgrade/change makes me too biased).
Both Filipino made Primary Arms GLx are lackluster and I was going to buy one until I was told that my Chinese Athlon Ares BTR Gen 2 4.5-27x and Midas Tac 6-24x were clearer. Snipershide has a comparative review on sub $1000 scopes including both of the new the Primary Arms GLx's and Bushnell Match Pro ED and several other brands recently.
I had the Bushnell MEDP and GLX 4.5-27 side by side and the Bushnell beat it out it FOV and glass quality. I'd give the edge to the GLx in reticle design and overall look (both personal preference). I ultimately kept the Bushnell
To my eyes the pst ii looked quite a bit better in the comparison and they can be had on sale for around $700 very often. Also being made in the Philippines vs China is a big deal for me.
To my eyes the Athlon Midas Tac 6-24x50 and Ares BTR Gen 2 4.5-27x50 and Viridian Xactus 5-30x56 were noticeably superior to the MPED as well and they were all cheaper too. JMO but the MPED isn't worth paying $699.99 for when there's other cheaper options that are noticeably superior with a better lifetime warranty.
The 3-15x PST G2 was just on sale for $550 last week at DVOR. Not only China vs Philippines, there is a real night and day difference in warranty coverage and customer service between Vortex and Bushnell.
Any suggestions for mounting this optic? I tried vortex pro rings 34mm, and the rings wouldn't properly fit the MPED and eventually I stripped one of the screws trying to get it to tighten on the scope.
Wait a little while for it to go on sale as low as $499.99 through some second party dealers. Couple dealers are already selling the regular Match Pro for $329.99 and probably go cheaper on that one soon as well.
I was right, the cheaper Match Pro is now selling for $299 through second party dealers and the MPED $570-$580 no tax with flat rate shipping for under $10. Just wait and notice the MPED should go even lower. It's disposable scope that doesn't have a real lifetime warranty. Will all definitely see after 5 years how much people start mentioning the Bushnell Match Pro ED 5 year warranty they didn't even know about.
@@derrickkellar959 Keep an eye on Gundeals for best possible prices and often sites have you click on their hidden cheapest price add to your cart to see lowest prices.
The Burris pretty much sucks optically. The Strike Eagle is the better quality scope and has the best warranty. Bushnell MPED and the Bushnell Match Pro with Illuminated reticles only have a 5 year warranty. Vortex won't ever BS you ever when it comes to honoring their warranty unlike Bushnell.
Awesome information as I am considering one of these now. Question, feel free to decline answering need be :) I have an Arken SH4 G2 6x24x50. At Max magnification clarity goes out the door especially in non daylight environments like an indoor 100 yard range. Can I expect that the Bushnell is better in light of this issue I have with the Arken?
I suggested couple cheaper scopes on sale that are actually better quality than the Bushnell to do a side by side comparison to share on TH-cam too. They all have far superior lifetime warranties as well.
@@commonsense5709 I see you recommended an athlon to another commenter, and as someone who currently runs one on a Tikka in 6.5 creedmoor, I can vouche that they’re amazing optics. My Midas tac feels like its so close to a Viper pst that I can’t even justify purchasing one anymore… I’m really interested in the Cronus
Its a pity you didnt discover the Arken EPL4 in that Arken box which was delivered to you for a review.1 of the most affordable scope out there,i wonder what its really like ???
Bushnell publishes for Elite tactical XRS3 “typically 15lbf*in is the maximum fastener torque recommended for joints around the scope tube”. Bushnell says nothing about torque spec for mounts in the pdf for the MPED other than generally stating select mounts with as much care as you did with the MPED, and not all scopes are compatible with all mounts. If in doubt seek assistance from retailer or gunsmith.
They have very different warranties. Vortex has undoubtedly the best no questions asked VIP lifetime warranty vs Bushnells 5 year limited warranty on their electronics such as illuminated reticle and auto shut off timer if warranty matters to you when making your own decision to buy but there's other cheaper and better options available to buy from other brands as well with better lifetime warranties including their electronics. I personally don't like Chinese made Vortex products but their Japan made ones such as their Golden Eagle and Razor Gen 3s are great. I prefer better quality Chinese made scopes sold by other brands for around the same cost or even cheaper instead of the Bushnell MPED after already owning an MPED and comparing it to my Athlons and other cheaper priced scopes in it's class. I really do like Bushnell's older Japan and Philippines made scopes such as their Elites, Tacticals, and Legends though. Their quality were simply unbeatable for their cost. I just really worry about them not honoring their previous lifetime warranty since they don't have comparable Japan made and Philippines made replacements and I don't really like their current Chinese and Korean made scopes.
@iTheEncounter Arken EP5 Vortex Strike Eagle Athlon Area BTR Gen 2 Ares ETR plus all of these other Chinese scopes have far superior lifetime warranties including their electronics unlike Bushnell.
Almost all of those scopes are produced in China, the name brands you often hear in the states are mostly just trading / import companies. Even some of the Japanese made scopes are actually produced by Chinese companies with production facility in Japan. I have a friend that worked in this industry and told me a lot of insights.
Curious to see how will Bushnell take care of all of their Match Pro ED and Match Pro with illuminated reticles customers after their 5 year warranties are expired.
Have you reviewed the Athlon Cronus BTR? or compared it to the Tract, Delta, Maven RS4, etc. IMO it is just as good or better than any scope in that class and factor in the no questions asked lifetime warranty and I think the Cronus is a no brainer for around $1,500
The Cronus can be bought for around $1050 through Expert Voice. I have both the Tract and Cronus and my eyes prefer the Tract but you probably can't tell much difference unless you have them side by side. Chinese scopes have progressed to a point they may seem almost as clear as good Japanese made scopes but it's eye fatigue after constantly using them that will be the telltale sign of inferior glass. I really like the image quality of the Chinese Athlon Midas Tac 6-24x50 and Ares BTR Gen 2 4.5-27x50 and Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 RD MRAD currently on sale for $699.99 at Scopelist and EuroOptic with free shipping. It's just about Athlon Cronus and Tract Toric and Delta Stryker quality level for only a fraction of the cost. The Meopta Optika 6 has a lifetime warranty including it's electronics just like the Athlons. When buying Japan (LOW) made scopes and European optics you are paying a higher price for better quality and reliability than Chinese made scopes.
Hi brother, I just bought a Bergara 300PRC rifle and I want to set up a riflescope for a high range of distance. I am between two: MATCH PRO ED 5-30X56 RIFLESCOPE and VORTEX Strike Eagle 5-25x56 EBR-7C MOA. Are these two useful for this kind of rifle? I am in search of advice, if you can help. Thank you!
@@CDOES The O6 is it's own thing, seems to not have any relation in build to anything else. I have one in 3-18x56 but no time behind the 5-30 or any new competitors in that price point. The O6 doesn't have locking windage, only elevation.
The Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 RD MRAD is currently on sale for $699.99 at Scopelist and EuroOptic with free shipping and both brand new and DEMO models are selling for the same price of $699.99. I have never seen them selling for this cheap before. They normally sell for around $1259. Good news they are not made in China at least I don't think so but you're getting way more equity in buying this Meopta that's for sure plus it has a lifetime warranty including electronics vs only 5 years for the Bushnell.
Optika 6 5-30x56 RD MRAD currently on sale for $699.99 free shipping at Scopelist and EuroOptic it's a real no brain for sure. European scope vs Chinese scope selling for exactly the same price, it's you're choice. Plus Meopta has a lifetime warranty including it's electronics (illuminated reticle) vs 5 year Bushnell electronics warranty (illuminated reticle and shut off timer).
I really appreciate your reviews and scope comparisons, but you appear to show side-by-sides of different scopes, taken at different times of the day and year, under different lighting conditions, and... at times... focused on different targets. The moment you stated that your Tract Toric video footage was taken while there was WILDFIRE smoke affecting the image I was like what?!? Don't get me wrong, I love your reviews. I know it is difficult, especially when multiple scopes are being compared at once, but I would really suggest comparing scopes side-by-side and at the exact same time, weather conditions, and focused on the exact same target/scene. Otherwise the image quality/sharpness/etc. comparisons are kind of moot.
Athlon proved over a decade ago that China can produce top tier scopes. Many others have followed suit. This is just another great example. Who has the best optics reviews by far - C_DOES.
Almost all of those scopes are produced in China, the name brands you often hear in the states are mostly just trading / import companies. Even some of the Japanese made scopes are actually produced by Chinese companies with production facility in Japan. I have a friend that worked in this industry and told me a lot of insights.
Great review. Only issue like you said is DURABILITY concerns for chinese quality. Or the lack there of. Thats a crap shoot i am not sure i am willing to take on.
@iTheEncounter i have changed my game in scopes. I am transitioning to All March FX and NF ATACR's on my rifles. Good optics are just pure joy to look through. March are my absolute Favorite for hunting. Stupid impressive glass. Best I've ever looked through. But way way over 1k. About 3k or just a bit over
Such a tired old response. China is running circles around the U.S. and pretty much the rest of the world…..especially when it comes to technology. While the western world is trying to figure out suitable pronouns, China is perfecting hypersonic and fusion technology
This is a Republican vibe anti-china until it's time to discuss. Stock options and dividends. China is America's training wheels just take them off and see what happens. China is advancing to world dominance while america and its European counterpart are losing control and relivance .
Almost all of those scopes are produced in China, the name brands you often hear in the states are mostly just trading / import companies. Even some of the Japanese made scopes are actually produced by Chinese companies with production facility in Japan. I have a friend that worked in this industry and told me a lot of insights.
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I came from the bushnell deal on Reddit and I have to say, I really enjoyed this review, very well done. One thing that I would have liked to see is the magnification values at the bottom of each scope you are comparing just to reinforce where you are when you show the difference between magnifications and FOV because it could be a little confusing at times (maybe I’m just special). Overall great video, definitely will be subscribing and look forward to future reviews!
Snipershide has a recent review worth checking out too. They compared the MPED with several other brands of scopes in the sub $1000 price point.
What people don't know is the MPED and Match Pro with illuminated reticle only have a 5 year warranty on their electronics and didn't read the Better Business Bureau Bushnell Outdoor complaints.
Compared to the Athlon Midas Tac 6-24x50 side by side at distances past 700+ yards, the Athlon is the better quality scope in regards to glass/ image quality on high magnification and has noticeably better turrets a fantastic scope when they go on sale for around $450. The Ares BTR Gen 2 4.5-27x50 that's currently on sale for $565.49 is even better than the Midas Tac and a lot better than the MPED in regards to image quality even though they use HD glass compared to the ED glass used in the Bushnell and both Athlons share the same stainless steel reliable turrets. Athlon's lifetime warranty is better than Bushnell's since it includes lifetime coverage even for their electronics for their illuminated reticles.
The Bushnell may seem like it's a nice scope if you don't already have these specific Athlons to compare it to or if you haven't bought the much cheaper Viridian Xactus 5-30x56 for under $600 that has nicer glass (though not as clear as the Athlons) and similar locking turrets with second rotation pop up rev indicator compared to the MPED and has a better lifetime warranty.
I think it's very funny that the illumination goes to 11 and no off position after that. "This one goes to 11" and if you're at max, you're not turning it off baby! All gas no brakes!
There is an “ off “ position after EVERY level, that is the “ dot “ position. Apparently you have never owned such devices or even something remotely similar.
@@iTheEncounter Damn dude the information that proves you wrong is in the first 3 minutes of the video. There is no off after the maximum brightness.
@@Ascendant7Justice the “ off “ position is the “ dot “ position , labeled as “•”
@@iTheEncounter and there is no dot after the max brightness.
@@Ascendant7Justice the dot is between 11 and 10 , which is right next to 11 , the maximum illumination level
Another great review. I have the regular (non ED) Match Pro which does have the off setting in between different illumination settings. I have been extremely impressed with this scope. It would have been interesting to see how the regular Match Pro versus the MPED would have matched up.
The turrets on the cheaper Match Pro is better than the MPED. These two Match Pro and their new MPED version don't appear to be made at the same Chinese factory. The cheaper one felt more robust too.
I like the Bushnell Engage better than both the Match Pro and MPED. For some strange reason the glass used in their 6-24x50 Engage seems clearer.
You already helped to choose a LPVO (Delta Stryker HD) and now you helped me to choose HPVO :)
Thank you for your work!
Greetings from germany
This thing is a boss for the money!
Thank you for the excellent detailed review and comparisons that really put things in perspective.
Wish they made a 3-15 or 3-18 lol.
Ditto about power range.
I snagged up a Bushnell Forge 2.5-15x50 SFP with Deploy MOA reticle on sale a few years back. I have it on my 270 Win for matches and hunting. This scope is so awesome I've dialed and hit steel to 1220 yards with excellent clarity in the woods, beautiful field of view on 2.5-5x with the SFP reticle it doesn't disappear when needing to take a shot on lower power.
I love it so much I snagged a second Forge, 4.5-27x50 FFP Deploy MOA illuminated.
I see the MP 6-24x50 FFP Mil on sale for over half off on MOA versions and tempted to snag one up before they are gone even though I shoot with MOA optics.
LOVE the comparisons you make with similarly priced options. Very accurate and informative!
Great review! Now I think my choice is made! I have gone back and forth an this helped me decide now my wife and friends can get a rest on what to buy!
Since you already got the the stryker5-30 , the tract 4.5-30, might be great to take a look at the athlon Cronus since those three are really from the same design and blue prints? Great review as always !
23:43 you can see the centre floating dot better with the Toric and this is at 30x
The Deploy 2 and the G4P reticles by bushnell have a very tight floating dot that needs at least 22x magnification to clearly distinguish it and wanna aim with the dot.
Be nice to know what scopes you review that have a useable centre dot back at 12-18x
Man I need a excel sheet top to bottom of your favorites. I just purchased a Swampfox Kentucky Long after watching one of you videos then an hour later watched the Anthlon one and I regret buying the swampfox already even though it hasnt shipped yet lol. I am debating cancelling and switching. Not that these are in the same price range but I am going to watch every one of your videos before my next purchase.
Awesome review! your reviews are so in-depth and highly informative. I just subscribed to your channel. Thank you for doing the reviews, and please keep them coming! Best reviews on YT IMO.
Great review bro! I know I will probably get laughed at but. Chinese scope quality seems to be getting better. ie the Vector Continental 34mm. I cannot afford glass that is 1000 and up, my most expensive is the Delta Stryker which is awesome. But have you reviewed the:
Discovery ed-prs 5-25x56. The ED scopes from this line is phenomenal. Few years ago I said I will never buy a scope with a name like this but when I got one for free I bought the entire line of their ED versions the next month.
Great as always. Bushnell just sent one of these to me as a warranty replacement.
What Bushnell scope did you send to them? Did it have a comparable MSRP of $699.99? Hope it wasn't a Forge.
I loved this comparison. I'm curious how you would compare the Athlon Ares ETR 4.5-30x56 to this.
I.have a etr it.nice would like to know this also athlon does not have locking turrets
Stellar scope review. Thanks for the thorough and impartial review. I'd love to see this compared to a Strike Eagle 5-25x FFP, just because I have a couple of them and like them.
Solid reviews; often enjoy them so nice work. I happen to know the guy behind these Bushnell's and let him know about this. He tipped his hat and said that he recognizes the effort it takes to do them. What about it's baby brother scope?
I just grabbed this and a Nightforce 20 MOA 1.5" mount based on your review, as usual...because you rock dude. Throwing it on my new 18" 6 Arc build in progress. Hope it works out. Thanks for review man. 🤟🇺🇲
love the review! and perfectly timed as i was looking for more info on the MPED. damn shame the stryker and Toric we're as great as the hype as i was considering the two, but makes my buying decision even easier as the MPED is half the price in my area of the world.
Snipershide has another excellent detailed review on the Match Pro ED compared to many other different brands of scopes in the under $1000 price point and X-RING on TH-cam has another good review where he even did some very minor drop tests to see if zero was affected.
I'd recommend a brand new Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 illuminated RD MRAD FFP currently on sale for only $699.99 with free shipping from Scopelist and EuroOptic. I have the Tract Toric ELR 4.5-30x56 and an Athlon Cronus too. The difference is they are made in Japan vs China for the MPED and the Tract Toric ELR and Athlon Cronus have a lifetime warranty including their electronics illuminated reticles while the Match Pro ED only has a limited 5 year warranty on their electronics illuminated reticle and auto shut off and I really don't know if Bushnell even has the ability nor desire to even fix them past their 5 year limited warranty even if the customers are willing to pay to fix.
I think I've asked before, but I'm not sure if you've answered. Your mil grid lines up well with most scopes, but is there any chance the discrepancy in tracking is due to the differences in what a milradian is as defined by various organizations? It can vary from between 6283.185 mils in a real unit circle, 6400 mils by NATO standards, or even 6000 in Warsaw Pact mils.
Snipershide did a recent review and found it was 1/10 of a mil off. It's a very good article to read as the MPED was tested against many other different brands of scopes in the sub $1000 category. Unfortunately the MPED ranked in last place in overall image quality compared to it's peers.
I hope they get some other reticle options out. Really like the ebr7c, and something close to it would be absolutely phenomenal. Doubt it would happen, but I’ll keep my fingers crossed
Vortex reticles probably won't end up in Bushnell...
At what magnification does the floating dot in the centre become useable. It looks like you have to be dialed in to max magnification to see it, but that’s watching this video.
Thank you for this video. I've been tracking their 6-24 Match as a great option but this is way better. Thank you
Bushnell recently issued a smaller brother of this scope i.e. MPED 3-18x50. I'd really like to see it's review in comparison to Strike Eagle 3-18.
@@bartekg8640 fuck me. You got it dude!
I wonder what I’m sacrificing if I return my unused Elite tactical XRS3, G4P for this exact MPED?
(Apart from XRS3 doesn’t have illuminating reticle, has longer parallax, has more zoom than MPED, weighs 200g more than MPED , doesn’t have both locking turrets, has less user friendly zero stop and rev indicator.
Regarding Optical performance and tracking, and reliability, is there any noticeable difference between MPED and XRS3?
You forgot the meopta comparison
33:12 - What about Hardcore-Tactics "Mag-Pantsu"?
37:47 - Hey!! Offer still stands. Send me Princess Butttercup; you get the Razor to keep. Let's throw down and do the trade.
(Joking, I know how attached the fuzzball is to you. But it makes for a good Socratic argument: "Do whatever makes you happy.")
By far the best review I've seen! Amazing work!
I am currently running a Vortex Venom for NRL22, would this be a worthwile upgrade in your opinion? (I feel like I can guess the answer, but my desire to upgrade/change makes me too biased).
I would love to see a review of the Glx 4.5-27 or 3-18.
The 3-18 is in hand. And sadly, its disappointing.
Both Filipino made Primary Arms GLx are lackluster and I was going to buy one until I was told that my Chinese Athlon Ares BTR Gen 2 4.5-27x and Midas Tac 6-24x were clearer. Snipershide has a comparative review on sub $1000 scopes including both of the new the Primary Arms GLx's and Bushnell Match Pro ED and several other brands recently.
I had the Bushnell MEDP and GLX 4.5-27 side by side and the Bushnell beat it out it FOV and glass quality. I'd give the edge to the GLx in reticle design and overall look (both personal preference). I ultimately kept the Bushnell
@@thomasgould1308 after reviewing the 3-18 glx, I can absolutely see this.
@@thomasgould1308 The new Primary Arms GLx is really junk and most scopes cheaper scopes beat it. The Athlon Ares BTR Gen 2 literally smokes it.
To my eyes the pst ii looked quite a bit better in the comparison and they can be had on sale for around $700 very often. Also being made in the Philippines vs China is a big deal for me.
To my eyes the Athlon Midas Tac 6-24x50 and Ares BTR Gen 2 4.5-27x50 and Viridian Xactus 5-30x56 were noticeably superior to the MPED as well and they were all cheaper too. JMO but the MPED isn't worth paying $699.99 for when there's other cheaper options that are noticeably superior with a better lifetime warranty.
The 3-15x PST G2 was just on sale for $550 last week at DVOR. Not only China vs Philippines, there is a real night and day difference in warranty coverage and customer service between Vortex and Bushnell.
I got two for the Gas Gun PRS series for my DMR and my 6.5 CM.
Any suggestions for mounting this optic? I tried vortex pro rings 34mm, and the rings wouldn't properly fit the MPED and eventually I stripped one of the screws trying to get it to tighten on the scope.
fantastic detailed review, I'm buying one now off the back of it.
Wait a little while for it to go on sale as low as $499.99 through some second party dealers. Couple dealers are already selling the regular Match Pro for $329.99 and probably go cheaper on that one soon as well.
I was right, the cheaper Match Pro is now selling for $299 through second party dealers and the MPED $570-$580 no tax with flat rate shipping for under $10. Just wait and notice the MPED should go even lower.
It's disposable scope that doesn't have a real lifetime warranty. Will all definitely see after 5 years how much people start mentioning the Bushnell Match Pro ED 5 year warranty they didn't even know about.
@commonsense5709 where did you find it that cheap? I’m seeing 700 currently
@@derrickkellar959 Keep an eye on Gundeals check often for prices there. Oftentimes you have to add to cart to see lowest possible prices.
@@derrickkellar959 Keep an eye on Gundeals for best possible prices and often sites have you click on their hidden cheapest price add to your cart to see lowest prices.
Would you go with this scope for $699 or a viper pst gen 2 5-25 for $659? or the Burris xtr2 5-25 for $569?
The Burris pretty much sucks optically. The Strike Eagle is the better quality scope and has the best warranty. Bushnell MPED and the Bushnell Match Pro with Illuminated reticles only have a 5 year warranty.
Vortex won't ever BS you ever when it comes to honoring their warranty unlike Bushnell.
Great video, thank you!
Awesome information as I am considering one of these now. Question, feel free to decline answering need be :) I have an Arken SH4 G2 6x24x50. At Max magnification clarity goes out the door especially in non daylight environments like an indoor 100 yard range. Can I expect that the Bushnell is better in light of this issue I have with the Arken?
I have been waiting on this one.
At 100 yards the PST edged out the Mped ever so slightly but at further distance the PST was much clearer to me. 😅
I suggested couple cheaper scopes on sale that are actually better quality than the Bushnell to do a side by side comparison to share on TH-cam too. They all have far superior lifetime warranties as well.
@@commonsense5709 I see you recommended an athlon to another commenter, and as someone who currently runs one on a Tikka in 6.5 creedmoor, I can vouche that they’re amazing optics. My Midas tac feels like its so close to a Viper pst that I can’t even justify purchasing one anymore… I’m really interested in the Cronus
Optika 6 vs MPED? in the 5-30's
Its a pity you didnt discover the Arken EPL4 in that Arken box which was delivered to you for a review.1 of the most affordable scope out there,i wonder what its really like ???
It's something that caught my eye. I just need to sell some stuff to then buy one myself.
I bought an EPL4. It replaced my Leupold VX-3 from 2007. To me, it had the same quality of glass as my VX-3, with much better turrets.
Are you affiliated with Arken , one of their Troll ?
Bushnell publishes for Elite tactical XRS3 “typically 15lbf*in is the maximum fastener torque recommended for joints around the scope tube”.
Bushnell says nothing about torque spec for mounts in the pdf for the MPED other than generally stating select mounts with as much care as you did with the MPED, and not all scopes are compatible with all mounts. If in doubt seek assistance from retailer or gunsmith.
Any chance for Arken EP-5 review?
@c_does I am bouncing between the Athlon Helos 6-24 or the match pro ED. Which feature set did you like better?
What’s your opinion between the MPED vs Strike Eagle 5-25? Which would you choose?
MPED, without question. The SE is good. The mped is better.
@@CDOES cool Tnx
They have very different warranties. Vortex has undoubtedly the best no questions asked VIP lifetime warranty vs Bushnells 5 year limited warranty on their electronics such as illuminated reticle and auto shut off timer if warranty matters to you when making your own decision to buy but there's other cheaper and better options available to buy from other brands as well with better lifetime warranties including their electronics.
I personally don't like Chinese made Vortex products but their Japan made ones such as their Golden Eagle and Razor Gen 3s are great.
I prefer better quality Chinese made scopes sold by other brands for around the same cost or even cheaper instead of the Bushnell MPED after already owning an MPED and comparing it to my Athlons and other cheaper priced scopes in it's class.
I really do like Bushnell's older Japan and Philippines made scopes such as their Elites, Tacticals, and Legends though. Their quality were simply unbeatable for their cost. I just really worry about them not honoring their previous lifetime warranty since they don't have comparable Japan made and Philippines made replacements and I don't really like their current Chinese and Korean made scopes.
@@commonsense5709 do you know ANY ( list brand and model) of Chinese made scopes that are better than This MPED ? Thanks
@iTheEncounter Arken EP5 Vortex Strike Eagle Athlon Area BTR Gen 2 Ares ETR plus all of these other Chinese scopes have far superior lifetime warranties including their electronics unlike Bushnell.
This is a Vector Continental 5-30x56 OEM'ed for Bushnell.
I bought it when it first came out. It's pretty damn good. It's very nice to use.
Does this have better eye relief and vision box than the comparable arken or vortex viper gen 2?
I got the regular match pro and like it. Curious how you would compare the two.
You think the Match Pro Ed would be ok for a hunting scope, or strictly a PRS one¿
Almost all of those scopes are produced in China, the name brands you often hear in the states are mostly just trading / import companies. Even some of the Japanese made scopes are actually produced by Chinese companies with production facility in Japan. I have a friend that worked in this industry and told me a lot of insights.
Curious to see how will Bushnell take care of all of their Match Pro ED and Match Pro with illuminated reticles customers after their 5 year warranties are expired.
Have you reviewed the Athlon Cronus BTR? or compared it to the Tract, Delta, Maven RS4, etc.
IMO it is just as good or better than any scope in that class and factor in the no questions asked lifetime warranty and I think the Cronus is a no brainer for around $1,500
The Cronus can be bought for around $1050 through Expert Voice.
I have both the Tract and Cronus and my eyes prefer the Tract but you probably can't tell much difference unless you have them side by side. Chinese scopes have progressed to a point they may seem almost as clear as good Japanese made scopes but it's eye fatigue after constantly using them that will be the telltale sign of inferior glass. I really like the image quality of the Chinese Athlon Midas Tac 6-24x50 and Ares BTR Gen 2 4.5-27x50 and Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 RD MRAD currently on sale for $699.99 at Scopelist and EuroOptic with free shipping. It's just about Athlon Cronus and Tract Toric and Delta Stryker quality level for only a fraction of the cost. The Meopta Optika 6 has a lifetime warranty including it's electronics just like the Athlons.
When buying Japan (LOW) made scopes and European optics you are paying a higher price for better quality and reliability than Chinese made scopes.
Hi brother, I just bought a Bergara 300PRC rifle and I want to set up a riflescope for a high range of distance. I am between two:
MATCH PRO ED 5-30X56 RIFLESCOPE and VORTEX Strike Eagle 5-25x56 EBR-7C MOA. Are these two useful for this kind of rifle? I am in search of advice, if you can help. Thank you!
Did you decide? I'm trying to decide lol
Hey C_DOES, thoughts on this vs. the Meopta Optika6 5-30x56?
If the O6 is anything like the delta/toric, then for the price the mped probably
@@CDOES The O6 is it's own thing, seems to not have any relation in build to anything else. I have one in 3-18x56 but no time behind the 5-30 or any new competitors in that price point. The O6 doesn't have locking windage, only elevation.
The Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 RD MRAD is currently on sale for $699.99 at Scopelist and EuroOptic with free shipping and both brand new and DEMO models are selling for the same price of $699.99. I have never seen them selling for this cheap before. They normally sell for around $1259. Good news they are not made in China at least I don't think so but you're getting way more equity in buying this Meopta that's for sure plus it has a lifetime warranty including electronics vs only 5 years for the Bushnell.
MPED or Athlon Optics Ares ETR UHD 4.5-30x56mm on sale for $1K
This is the exact video I was looking for. Hmm, decision time
I am not interested in vortex scopes at all. But I have four Bushnell optics .
Great review body
Monstrum G3 is amazing for the 200 bones, check em out if you get a chance
This or Meopta Optika6 5-30x56?
Optika 6 5-30x56 RD MRAD currently on sale for $699.99 free shipping at Scopelist and EuroOptic it's a real no brain for sure. European scope vs Chinese scope selling for exactly the same price, it's you're choice. Plus Meopta has a lifetime warranty including it's electronics (illuminated reticle) vs 5 year Bushnell electronics warranty (illuminated reticle and shut off timer).
I really appreciate your reviews and scope comparisons, but you appear to show side-by-sides of different scopes, taken at different times of the day and year, under different lighting conditions, and... at times... focused on different targets. The moment you stated that your Tract Toric video footage was taken while there was WILDFIRE smoke affecting the image I was like what?!? Don't get me wrong, I love your reviews. I know it is difficult, especially when multiple scopes are being compared at once, but I would really suggest comparing scopes side-by-side and at the exact same time, weather conditions, and focused on the exact same target/scene. Otherwise the image quality/sharpness/etc. comparisons are kind of moot.
Great video! Note, tube size has nothing to do with brightness/light gathering capabilities.
This thing is damn sharp 🪒
Wish the dmr3 had the same illumination
Great scope.
Not comparable to the XRS3. Not close.
Athlon proved over a decade ago that China can produce top tier scopes. Many others have followed suit. This is just another great example. Who has the best optics reviews by far - C_DOES.
Almost all of those scopes are produced in China, the name brands you often hear in the states are mostly just trading / import companies. Even some of the Japanese made scopes are actually produced by Chinese companies with production facility in Japan. I have a friend that worked in this industry and told me a lot of insights.
you lost me when front focus piece start wobbling. arken 6-24 with Japanese glass does not wobble and under 400$
iPhone PROs are made in China, it's not where it's made but how manufactures control quality and cost that counts, QA being the more important factor.
Great review. Only issue like you said is DURABILITY concerns for chinese quality. Or the lack there of. Thats a crap shoot i am not sure i am willing to take on.
almost all scopes are Chinese made, where can you buy an American made scope? Very few and $1000 + the minimum
@iTheEncounter i have changed my game in scopes. I am transitioning to All March FX and NF ATACR's on my rifles. Good optics are just pure joy to look through. March are my absolute Favorite for hunting. Stupid impressive glass. Best I've ever looked through. But way way over 1k. About 3k or just a bit over
@@briansupermag3918 to me, the match pro ED is good enough , I am not a police / military sniper, just a hobbyist
Why would I need lotion and paper towels for a scope review 😭😭😭😭😭😭
The extra off doubles the price 😂
People don't send me rifle scopes, only foot pics
at around $700 I DONT THINK SO!
A little more expensive the the viper? More like 1000 dollars more expensive lol
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Scopes are grossly overpriced and no one can change my mind. And 99% of them don't even come with a mount
Lost me at made in china
Such a tired old response. China is running circles around the U.S. and pretty much the rest of the world…..especially when it comes to technology. While the western world is trying to figure out suitable pronouns, China is perfecting hypersonic and fusion technology
This is a Republican vibe anti-china until it's time to discuss. Stock options and dividends. China is America's training wheels just take them off and see what happens. China is advancing to world dominance while america and its European counterpart are losing control and relivance .
Almost all of those scopes are produced in China, the name brands you often hear in the states are mostly just trading / import companies. Even some of the Japanese made scopes are actually produced by Chinese companies with production facility in Japan. I have a friend that worked in this industry and told me a lot of insights.
All I needed to know was china and I won’t buy!
U need to search for 1.5k range plus to have something from japan or Germany with all bels and whistless like this optic has dude...
Use a thin strap of leather to grab the battery cap. My NF NXS are the same way.
Oh whyyyyyyyyyyyyy don’t they have the proper box whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy