MuseSounds Test - Keys
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- MuseScore 4 Beta has arrived and MuseSounds have come with it!
This video explores the keyboard instruments in a bit more detail, and gives you a sample of what you can do with MuseScore 4 and MuseSounds.
All free, which is amazing!
Download the new MuseHub from this announcement:
musescore.org/en/node/336003
This will allow you to install MuseScore 4 and MuseSounds.
Remember that this is still Beta software, and is not backwards compatible. Scores you save in MuseScore 4 cannot be opened in MuseScore 3!!
00:00 Intro
00:27 Acoustic Pianos
03:37 Harpsichord
03:56 Organ
04:43 Electric Pianos
05:40 Celesta
06:17 Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I love pipe organ sound and I don't expect it to exist on this update. Pipe organ itself is a complicated instrument considering how many stops/individual sounds it can have and the registration/sound combination possible. Then the difference between organ from different era. And then the tuning and temperament issue. Pipe organ has so many variable that simulating it is comparable to a whole orchestra.
Yes, I've always wondered about that. Sounds like a minefield to get into! Although there are similarities with synthesized sound, aren't there? In that you add stops or take them away, so perhaps that might be an eventual solution. Or perhaps there are already VSTs that do this!
There are websites specifically for soundfounts for pipe organs from early music. Check them out.
I actually really like the default piano sound from MS3 and think its generally better than any of the new pianos. Also the dynamics on the organ are fine as that's how volume pedals work on organs like a b3
Thanks for the info. I'll have to compare the MS basic piano with the others.
@@mccoydtromb Yes, I've just tested it and discovered that the MS3 "Grand Piano" default sound is distinct from the piano sound in MS Basic. The default piano sound in MS Basic is significantly brighter and contains built-in reverb, but the default piano sound in MS3 uses the master synthesizer reverb "Zita 1," which is nice because you can customize how much reverb you want rather than having it baked-in.
MS3 piano sounds really great especially if you fiddle enough with dynamics and rubato
@@JafuetTheSame yes absolutely. There will never be any other default piano sound that would ever top ms3 lol
Is there a way to like, use the default piano in ms3 on ms4?
I tested it once on someone elses computer, but I'm not able to test it in mine, because my system is very old, but I hope I'll be able to get my hands on Muse Sounds newer versions pretty soon when I buy a new computer. You are helping me a lot reviewing the new sounds, thank you so much! :]
You're very welcome! I'm also wanting to make a video about the PC requirements of MuseScore 4, but I'm sure you know what you need
Great review, David!
I agree that it seems odd to not have a pipe / church organ at all included, although the Hammond isn't bad at all for the sound it is emulating. A "Pipes" pack with a few pipe organ sounds, maybe some theater-style organs, would be nice.
Yeah, maybe for accordions and harmonicas too.
Yeeeeessss!!!!!!
All very impressive. A crescendo on a piano compared to an organ is different of course. A Piano cannot increase the volume of a note once started, only the next note can be louder but an organ can. Does the new behaviour show this? It sounds like it.
I know someone reported an issue like this, but I haven't tried a crescendo with a sustained piano note yet. I guess I would never write that!
@@mccoydtromb ok, but you could, a passage for piano (or xlophone etc) could contain a cresc or dim, but depending on the instrument, it would have to vary loudness (let alone sample) continuously or by note. Given that Musescore allows re-assingning a staff's instrument, I wondered whether say, as you were showing in your score, a crescendo, perhaps originally applied to an organ, and therefore continuously varying, having that stave re-assigned to a piano, and having the crescendo behaving appropriately. I really can't believe the quality of these new sounds. The devs have to be congratulated.
Do we know the state of the VST implementation?
And also there was talk of integrating Audacity into the score. Any news on that?
What about the different harpsichord stops?
Please tell me how you notate that, and I'll try it out! You must forgive this trombone player his ignorance...
@@mccoydtromb I don't know how to notate them. You must forgive this not-even-a-trombone player his ignorance… ;-)
I usually put something like Manual I or Manual II referring to the 2 different manuals or maybe 8’ I, 8’ II referring to the two different 8-foot stops. I've seen once in some French baroque score something like pétit clavier (little keyboard) referring to the quieter manual. But I don't know if there is a symbol or a modern or standard notation to them. There is also the lute stop and sometimes a 4’ or a 16’ (more rarely). You could also include some more extreme dynamics on the piano, since they're very much used (ppp, fff).
Great videos though! Cheers!
@@LuizBHMG Thanks for the advice. I'm already feeling like I need to go another round with all of these libraries for updates and things I missed the first time around!
@@mccoydtromb anyway, I think it's too early to make a full review on them. They are still in development and certainly there is a lot of things they will change within the next weeks. But it's good to have these previews already. I'm really excited about them!
The harpsichord sound is not good. I use Frech harpsichord Blanchet 1720 soundfount, it is infinitely superior because it has double manual that can be mixed, and it has the lute register as well. Thus one has more than one sonority to use.
Thanks for the tip! Always good to get this info from people who know!
Due to the fact Baroque music is not famous as pop or rock ones are, Musescore users don't struggle with plugins and soundfonts for early music issues. There is an "early music" pack sound created for Musescore usage but, for example, the baroque lute or theorbo sounds are similar to that of modern nylon guitar, and the baroque oboe is not good because it had a more round, mellow and deep sound if compared to the modern oboe. Baroque wind instruments had one or none valve or key. My baroque transverse flute (D-foot) is tuned in 415Hz and has only one key for d sharp note and used also for hit f sharp note and others. So the overall color sound among the notes aren't even. There are "landscapes" that differentiate C major key from B flat key for example. And this is a distinctive characteristic of wind instruments from early music. Thus we musicians who deal with Medieval, Renaissance and Baroque music have to look for compatible soundfounts in sites made for that and use them in Musescore.