My Thoughts On Sugar Wash For Distilling

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  • What are the advantages of sugar washes? Are They Worth it?
    I wont to talk through my thoughts on sugar washes.
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  • @FoolOfATuque
    @FoolOfATuque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I just started in the hobby. I have been an all grain brewer for 10 years. So in the future I will be doing all grain mashes. For my first run I ran a sugar, because it is cheap. It was recommended by a friend who is already a home distiller. He said, "It's your first time running a still. You're going to mess something up. Don't mess up something nice." He was correct in that. I had several issues during the process and I learned a lot doing it. I am glad I didn't waste my grain and did a sugar wash. I have a half gallon of 190 proof neutral spirit now that is destined to be some 80 proof orange liqueur for margaritas.

  • @ancientegyptandthebible
    @ancientegyptandthebible 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Sugar washes are also useful for doing hybrid mashes: part grain/fruit, part sugar. Those hybrid mashes are great for getting the flavor of the grain/fruit but with the reliability of a sugar wash. Hybrid mashes are also useful for when the primary fermenting ingredient is in short supply or is expensive. I think, for example, that a sugar wash can help in making rum when molasses is not readily available in your area.

    • @LucianBlankevoort
      @LucianBlankevoort 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I tried to do an all grain with barley I malted myself, but the gravity fell short by a lot. like 1.015 (I recon it was my mill, which I made with my dad that afternoon and it wasn't very consistent in results). I topped it up with dry malt extract and sugar until I reached a decent gravity, fermented on the grain and it was actually surprisingly good! So I agree, using sugar to assist with a mash when you just don't get there with the necessary ingredients is a great option.

    • @GrandmasterHobbyist
      @GrandmasterHobbyist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree on hybdrid mashes for sure.

    • @jamalpeoples3736
      @jamalpeoples3736 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ferment it in 50 gallon drums. Let ot settle. Filter it and just use it to make hard sodas and lemonade.

    • @kalleklp7291
      @kalleklp7291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what people do when they make a "sugar head" whisky out of corn.
      Well, as I write my cornflakes whiskey is made just like that. Tried it before and I must say it makes a very nice white dog for sipping and it definitely gains flavor when aged on wood.

  • @rocketsroc
    @rocketsroc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm a vodka fan so I've tried a variety of vodka recipes. Potatoes is something I guess every vodka fan must ultimately try, but to be honest, I don't think it is worth the trouble it takes to make it. The best I've found is using soft white winter wheat and sugar which I distill with a reflux or better yet a bubble plate column. It's a neutral spirit with just a hint of flavor from the wheat. Give it a try.

  • @BeardedBored
    @BeardedBored 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    _Pops head up out of video editing software..._ Did somebody say inverted sugar?

  • @Drifter6942
    @Drifter6942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Sugar wash was my first try at distilling. I still do it because its cheep, fast and isn't all that bad. But .... I did find through my own research that if you swap the bleached sugar with Demerara sugar or raw sugar cane then let the finished product soak in charred oak chunks for a while, it will taste similar to Appletons

    • @vtbn53
      @vtbn53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's an Appletons?

    • @Drifter6942
      @Drifter6942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vtbn53 Jamaican Rum

  • @tristang8929
    @tristang8929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I've always wanted to try making a sweet potato vodka

    • @chezleymcdonald2481
      @chezleymcdonald2481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have also

    • @kf4nxs
      @kf4nxs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      George Duncan is making some.

    • @10wuebc
      @10wuebc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      George from Barley and Hops brewing did that a few weeks ago!

    • @YYEEIISSOONN
      @YYEEIISSOONN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about a potato vodka. Any well made video you can recomend me. Thanks a lot

    • @anthonyking2540
      @anthonyking2540 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Made some a few years ago, from the field leftovers, turned out real good.

  • @Tyresio12
    @Tyresio12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Inverting a sugar is a very good idea - vodka is then smoother than from the regular sugar. Also, some guys suggested it ferments a little bit quicker. And it's pretty easy to do, mix water, sugar, add some citric acid to pH 4 and boil it for about 30 minutes.
    I suggest 1kg:5l ratio of sugar and water and NOT using turbo yeasts - they work very fast, but produce some off flavours.
    Cheers!

    • @thomaseidst3170
      @thomaseidst3170 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can use turbo yeast,the trick is to have it in a cool room because its fast and make alot of heat and if its in a cool place it has almost no bad taste, and if you also Filter int and only stop destilling at 50% you wil have no bad taste.

  • @BigEdsGuns
    @BigEdsGuns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Potato Ratio as I remember is 5 to 1! Either in kilos or lbs.
    It takes about 5 kg of potatoes to equal 1 kg of table sugar.
    Same goes for 5 lbs of potatoes equals 1 lbs of sugar.
    So, If I normally do a 55 to 60 lbs sugar (45 gallons) in a 55 gallon fermenter.
    Process would be: Buy 250 lbs of potatoes, peel, chop, mash, cook (steaming wand), cool, then hit with enzymes, cool again, pitch yeast.
    Then the fun begins: Strain, rack, strip run, repeat three times. Then spirit reflux run.
    Rite now it's way to damn hot out. Maybe in the late fall.
    Cheers Jesse!

    • @thomaseidst3170
      @thomaseidst3170 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can also use potatos raw ,but,it wil give you different taste because its raw

  • @Anamericanhomestead
    @Anamericanhomestead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yes, please do the potatoes

    • @theworldisastage1984
      @theworldisastage1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So.
      Much.
      Work.
      So little reward

    • @jamesbell491
      @jamesbell491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about potato starch.
      How would that work?

  • @PoppaLongroach
    @PoppaLongroach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love being true to tradition and very much enjoy thed mashing in proccess of cooking and converting grain. very satisfying lol

  • @jacobthellamer
    @jacobthellamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    +1 on potato neutral, it is on my list. I just put down a birdwatchers, maybe potato next.

  • @NicholasKujawa
    @NicholasKujawa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You make an excellent point about time. I am a team lead in a production environment and do a decent amount of coaching. When you are teaching a fresh employee a new skill/process it is best to target stations with a short cycle time. This means that you get them trained in on a task that is short enough to do many times a day. This repetition is important and leads to the ability to make iterative and incremental improvements while the last cycle is fresh in thier mind.

  • @junisobe2769
    @junisobe2769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Jesse, I believe that taste/mouthfeel sensation you described is what the Japanese call Kokumi. Malted barley has got it in droves. For me, I feel that taste/mouthfeel hit the back corners of my tongue.

  • @peterscully4961
    @peterscully4961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd be interested if you tried invert sugar as well. I used to invert sugar for beer, but I couldn't really taste the difference, except where I made darker kinds. It is a very good skill to learn though, especially for making bbq glazes or adding to liqueurs instead of sugar - in that case it definitely smooths things out.

  • @josephcook2314
    @josephcook2314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet potato has been one of my number one movers! I never would have thought it would be that great originally.

  • @fourdeadinohio8303
    @fourdeadinohio8303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i still make sugar washes after 4years of doing this hobby. it's hot in the USA and i don't want to stand in my kitchen over a hot mash. it's easy to dump some sugar in a bucket and leave it on my porch for a couple of weeks. i just pick a cool distilling day. but can't wait for cooler weather to get back to making the good stuff.

    • @scottmcneill6333
      @scottmcneill6333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jane Doe Drinking and distilling do NOT mix! Trust me. Lmao

    • @scottmcneill6333
      @scottmcneill6333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jane Doe BAHAHAHAHAH

    • @scottmcneill6333
      @scottmcneill6333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jane Doe You get one HUGE ATTA GIRL!!

  • @adamskee
    @adamskee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just did my first 3 sugar washes, then did a few generations of nutrigrain, now I am onto corn/barley with a bit of sugar to bring it up from 1065 to 1090, around 13% and super corn flavour. I am using 10Kg of cracked corn (farm quality), 3kg of malted barley, alpha/beta amylase, 3kg sugar and bakers dry yeast. Ferments out in 9 days.

  • @starshot5172
    @starshot5172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You really should make vodka out of potatoes, really looking forward to making that too

    • @FoolOfATuque
      @FoolOfATuque 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this would be a good video too! I mean how do you extract the starch from potatoes efficiently? Do you boil them? It's not like a grain which has everything needed to convert the starch.

    • @starshot5172
      @starshot5172 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FoolOfATuque i think you boil and smash them, maybe strain the solids out for the most part after fermentation. I think malted grain is added to it to convert potato starch into sugars

    • @starshot5172
      @starshot5172 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FoolOfATuque but I have no idea how the recipe would go

    • @FoolOfATuque
      @FoolOfATuque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@starshot5172 probably would need to add enzymes for sure. No idea though either since I'm new to this.

    • @FoolOfATuque
      @FoolOfATuque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@starshot5172 yeah, the malted grain will contain amylase which is the enzyme that breaks down starches into simple sugars.

  • @ivormectin.3046
    @ivormectin.3046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been making sugar wash for a year now. Flavoured it to... Great results high strength...

  • @dylanluvzcolorado4369
    @dylanluvzcolorado4369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I guess I do hybrid wash . Not sure what you would call it . I convert starch in grains and add a little sugar to reach my target gravity . less grain to mess with and so far that's been working out well .

    • @MetalLegMoz
      @MetalLegMoz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know of the term "sugarhead" but I think its more applied to adding grain as an adjunct in the ferment for flavour, not mashing it to extract sugars too.

    • @FoolOfATuque
      @FoolOfATuque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In brewing this is called mini mash. Where you partially mash and then supplement with liquid malt extract (LME) or dry malt extract (DME). If you want to keep the character of the grain you may look into using DME or LME as your sugar supplement in your wash.

    • @dylanluvzcolorado4369
      @dylanluvzcolorado4369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FoolOfATuque I will have to give this a try . Thanks for the advice .

    • @FoolOfATuque
      @FoolOfATuque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dylanluvzcolorado4369 yeah, experiment with it and refine your process. I've been being for 10 years and it's a lot of fun. Just starting to get into distilling now so I will be trying different things and experimenting there too. Both these hobbies are awesome

    • @dylanluvzcolorado4369
      @dylanluvzcolorado4369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FoolOfATuque I started this spring and right now experimenting with molasses. Yummy rummy lol

  • @dimash244
    @dimash244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sugar here 20kg for 20$ and bottle of vodka at store is almost 30$ per 0.750lit
    i only keep the very middles of run, only hearts, only above 92% (usually 94-95%)
    home made gives ZERO headache next day, make 180 batch using wine yeast. Wheat germ is very good, tpw is great too. don't cheap out on nutrients you dont want yeast to stress at all. give it time and you will have the best vodka

  • @orbitalbreaky
    @orbitalbreaky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It would break my heart to make neutral out of a good all grain wash!

    • @bensoulsby86
      @bensoulsby86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm literally doing that this weekend. Got a cheap bag of malt

    • @orbitalbreaky
      @orbitalbreaky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bensoulsby86 all the power to you. I'm sure it will be a kickass vodka. I just much prefer whiskey

    • @bensoulsby86
      @bensoulsby86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orbitalbreaky oh for sure, didn't mean anything like that. I just had a $20 sack off malt handy and am almost out of gin so saw the opportunity

  • @bobyoung5330
    @bobyoung5330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agree with you 100% about the quality of the distillate using a sugar washes. They're ok off you want something cheap. I have filtered them to get as close as a neutral taste, but still cannot get the quality that grain provides. If you want great vodka, try a sweet potato recipe. 25# will only yield ~8% potential ABV in a 5 gallon batch, but the end result is amazing. They self convert their starch to fermentable sugars.

  • @knightmare1015
    @knightmare1015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sugar washes are excellent and super easy to do. You can add stuff like vanilla extract and spices to it if you want. And after you distill it, you can age it with various forms of wood. I did some with maple and people loved it. In fact they're asking for more of it.

    • @capolot
      @capolot ปีที่แล้ว

      How long did you age it?

    • @macbot21
      @macbot21 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When did you add the vanilla and spice?

  • @davidvincent2838
    @davidvincent2838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are spot on about all grain vs imitating with easier shortcuts like adding sugar. I'm finding that out now, Although I've been well aware of it through my 20 year beer making journey that ther is nothing that beats all grain. You may get close with extracts and steeps and even kits but they all fall a bit short of the all grain and I couldn't, and still can't. put my finger on that difference or describe it............... it's just different.

  • @dire_prism
    @dire_prism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I recently had the thought that sugar beets could be fun to try. Turns out sugar beet seeds are pretty hard to come by here because the farmers all get them through the sugar factories.

  • @countrylivingwithbeargrill6297
    @countrylivingwithbeargrill6297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love watching your videos, so much knowledge to learn! I started with doing sugar washes and did them for a while then couldn’t help but make the jump to brandys and just did my first grain wash and don’t think I’ll ever go back now!!!

  • @donnyhayes7527
    @donnyhayes7527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I did a pineapple mash came out really good had a hit of the pineapple in it

    • @charlesschmidtke8427
      @charlesschmidtke8427 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I put pineapple mash and coconut in my thumper with 1 quart of 100 proof it makes a great fruity whiskey

    • @frankmora7302
      @frankmora7302 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree with you on the pineapple, definitely makes a great brandy.

  • @dreamingwolf8382
    @dreamingwolf8382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Missed an opportunity to play ‘Pour some sugar on me’ in this episode

    • @jaked924
      @jaked924 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that would have been great! hahaha

    • @dfbess
      @dfbess 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Copyright

  • @colinrout4139
    @colinrout4139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep! Stayin at home a lot more and your videos are going a long way to shorten my learning curve! Cheers

  • @jamesrees2259
    @jamesrees2259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always do a sugar wash, cheap, little methanol, for 94-96% ABV, (Reflux) use gin baskets for my gin flavourings or char up some Jack 'D' chips and cherry chips pop in for a week or two in the jar and bingo.... great info, great videos.

  • @deadmaumurphylaw8052
    @deadmaumurphylaw8052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've done milk whey from a cheese maker and sugar wash and it turned out quite well

  • @TheGreatest1974
    @TheGreatest1974 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an original ‘air still’ and all I ever do is sugar washes with Pure Still Spirits Yeast, and I get a CLEAN wash easily and I still it and filter it with the carbon filter system, (putting 1 ltr through the same filter 3 or 4 times) and I get a lovely pure clear vodka that I can flavour however I want. I get a gallon & 3 litres of vodka every time and it works out SO cheap, it’s easy and I love it. I’m flummoxed by using stills and I couldn’t be bothered with the hassle. I love the ease of the air still. 👍🇬🇧

  • @dougshelton69
    @dougshelton69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the concentrated juice washes..easy and tasty...

  • @rrmuf
    @rrmuf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of food for thought here. Now I know why I might want to proceed to all grains. Thanks Jesse.

  • @bernieknox3402
    @bernieknox3402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Started with a sugar wash, but now my favorite is birdwatchers thanks to you,do it for convenience
    .

    • @fuzzywuzzy1756
      @fuzzywuzzy1756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was the same till i did a kale wash

  • @craig.n.gaylene
    @craig.n.gaylene 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've done a few sugar washes for things like limoncello, blueberry liqueur etc. but I've never used it for vodka. I've done a small potato vodka batch, I currently have a beetroot vodka in the fermenter and lined up behind that is a sweet potato vodka (I understand they have amalayse in them?). Then I'm going to do a large batch of potato vodka because I like it more than I like commercial vodkas in the $35-50 range.

  • @user-pt9gr3fe1p
    @user-pt9gr3fe1p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any chance you could make a video on your views on filtering with activated charcoal?
    Do you charcoal filter? There seems to be a bit of controversy around it in the distilling world. Would be great to hear your 2cents!

  • @adiefender
    @adiefender 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first generation of UJSSM, putting cinnamon sticks in the vapor stream, makes a great flavor for mixers!!

    • @quarlow1215
      @quarlow1215 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol just don't put too much cinnamon sticks in. I did 5 and it was effing hot. Fireball hot. Added simple syrup and had a tasty cinnamon schnapps.

  • @jacobplasmeyer8789
    @jacobplasmeyer8789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Potato wash with Angel yeast vs potato wash converted with some malt addition would be an interesting test.

    • @deweydewey
      @deweydewey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not familiar with Angel yeast ,what is it

    • @jacobplasmeyer8789
      @jacobplasmeyer8789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deweydewey the brand Angel so quite a few different yeasts for different purposes, but the one you'll find referred to is a product which includes yeast, as well as enzymes for starch conversion. You can use it for no-cook mashing. in theory, you should be able to run a 10kg sack of potatoes through a cheese grater, make up to 30L volume in your vermenter (of cold water) pitch the yeast, and away you go. Works with raw rice and other grains too.

    • @jacobplasmeyer8789
      @jacobplasmeyer8789 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *do quite a few

  • @andrewhammond1949
    @andrewhammond1949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do 58 lts of sugar wash with yeast, sugar and spirit enhancer (charcoal) I use a boka head and get 21 lts at 40% for my work. It takes approximately 24 hrs.for a still run and I then I flavour it to whatever the family members request. The excess is then distributed amongst work mates who appear to appreciate my product.

  • @Teddysad
    @Teddysad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For potatoes you are in the right location. Get if you can the big starchy ones usually sold for chips. Look for Chippewa

  • @roytelling6540
    @roytelling6540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like making fruit wines and I sometimes distill them.
    If I am making something just to distill I make sugar wash, but what I have started doing is placing some juniper berries or cinnamon at the top of my collom so the alcohol picks up some of the flavour from them, still working on how much to use to get the falour right for me :)

  • @paulquinn9734
    @paulquinn9734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks very much for all your videos, can i ask that when you mention an acronym you say the long meaning at least once please?

  • @1FrenchConnection1
    @1FrenchConnection1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey brother I have been working for a white wheat! Good luck it’s messy! If you don’t plan accordingly!

  • @bradkurilla700
    @bradkurilla700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video's. Always learn something new. Thanks Jesse.

  • @dreamingwolf8382
    @dreamingwolf8382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beets. The sugar content in beets is Amazingly good for the making of vodka.

    • @aubreyhier3898
      @aubreyhier3898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      90% of sugar used in the world is derived from beets! So basically it’s been done!

    • @voodoosnakebite
      @voodoosnakebite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a funny joke in my circles as I made one and messed up temps so it tasted like beets and so it came out at parties as a joke

    • @dreamingwolf8382
      @dreamingwolf8382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@voodoosnakebite Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.

  • @gunscratch
    @gunscratch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just wondering what your thoughts are on using LME as opposed to full grain mash. Considering many breweries now use it over full grain they don’t seem to have a problem with flavour in their beer. Any comments on partial grain washes? I used to home brew that way; is it any good for distilling?

  • @kevinbaxter2578
    @kevinbaxter2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crud. Started a TPW tonight and didn't notice that the paste was Garlic & Basil flavored until after I dumped it in. Well I guess this will be an experimental vodka now. Damn.

  • @richardwhitebrook5695
    @richardwhitebrook5695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy to use sugar washes for all the reasons you mentioned as I only want to make neutrals, just wish I could get a reliable fast ferment with a clean yeast. I tried EC1118 and bread yeast and they both failed to move the gravity a single point, but Turbo nuked the site from orbit. Shame its got a fairly horrible flavour..

    • @gizmorepairs
      @gizmorepairs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you manage to perfect your sugar wash recipe ?

  • @jacobdeslattes3519
    @jacobdeslattes3519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    +rice and wheat vodkas are king. Gives it a creamy sweet flavor.

    • @Kihidokid
      @Kihidokid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rice over potatoes?

    • @fexdammit
      @fexdammit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      wheat vodka gave a mouthfeel i didnt like... tpw feels better in the mouth for me..

    • @jacobdeslattes3519
      @jacobdeslattes3519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anthony Ingram for me personally yes. Have a local distillery with a rice vodka that is liquid butter.

  • @greybeard27
    @greybeard27 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes please make a potato vodka, my wife is Irish and has told me about her Gran making poitín out of potatoes out the back of the family farm in Ireland, so I'm keen to learn how to use them.

  • @xSiC84
    @xSiC84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got into the hobby by doing brown sugar / honey washes. Found a recipe called black beards rum or something. Every time i made it , it turned out great. Odd thing when you added a shot of that to Dr. Pepper, it magically changed the Dr. Pepper to a Vanilla Dr. Pepper, weirdest thing. I still make that every now and again though.

    • @glenford1779
      @glenford1779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds very interesting

    • @MikeEwalt
      @MikeEwalt 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been drinking Jameson and vanilla coke for a while..

  • @adamw2785
    @adamw2785 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All wheat vodka, no malted grains, add enzymes and nutrients. Ferment on the cooler side (around 22-24C). Single distillation, packed reflux column, try to get a max ABV betwen 90-92%. Which should allow more of those grain flavours to come over.

  • @alvinmeeks7710
    @alvinmeeks7710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recommend silver queen corn for whiskey, part of my uncle wheeler recipe. He had been passed on 45years but his products were very high dollar

  • @mortygoldmacher
    @mortygoldmacher 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The distilled liquor of fermented sugar is rum. It can be called vodka if it is distilled to 95% abv. and diluted. I enjoy the taste of rum made from table sugar, it's only inferior to vodka if you expect it to be neutral. It tastes like Newfie Screech, from the Canadian province of Newfoundland.

  • @johnnyblanchard3144
    @johnnyblanchard3144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever added a vodka (neutral alcohol) to your mash to kick up the ABV prior to running your still. Was think about making a cognac and was wondering if this would end in a good finished product?

    • @MikeEwalt
      @MikeEwalt 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just asked the same question. Would it change the flavor of the final product? Would it have less mouth feel? Would you taste the sugar? Would it dilute the flavor of the final product?

  • @kennethcounts5905
    @kennethcounts5905 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to experiment with all grain and the process.
    But I am a town dwelling and really don't have anywhere to go with my byproduct.
    Sugar wash is just so versatile and clean.
    And my spent wash waters the grass.

  • @LloydieP
    @LloydieP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My missus and I live our vodka (she's Polish). But I love my rum. My still is really a high (passive) reflux pot still. Same wash gets us both vodka and rum.

  • @steveswann8448
    @steveswann8448 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesse,
    In some states, like Idaho, they raise sugar beets in the ground. They are rather round, large, and fibrous. And very sweet. Has anyone ever ground these up and used these as a mainstay for a sugar wash that you know of?
    What were the results?

  • @firstlast10733
    @firstlast10733 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've used two different turbo yeast first was way more bubbles less foam next was a ton of foam and a few bubbles which one is better at the start of the wash?

  • @charleswyatt180
    @charleswyatt180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello Jesse. I am pretty new at this hobby. I have been following you for a bit now and you have given me a lot of good information. I am a bit confused about what is going on with my first sugar wash. Here are the specifics about the wash that is in my fermenter now. I am using a 5 gallon fermenter. 10 lbs of table sugar. 3 tbs of bakers yeast. 1/2 tbs nutrients. SG 1,088. Pitch yeast at 78 degrees F. I maintained that temperature using a fish tank heater. (George Duncan style). This wash started vigorously and has slowed to a bubble burp ever minute after about 15 days. I am at 21 days and still the same. I have checked the gravity and it reads 1.010. I have tasted it and it still has a sweet taste. Please give me your input as to the status of this batch. I would appreciate it deeply. Take care and be safe.

    • @UgTheViking1
      @UgTheViking1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am a beginner distiller as well, but have been making wines for the past years, learning a lot about primary fermentation. Three things spring to mind.
      First bakers yeast is not ideal as it has a limited alcohol tolerance and leaves hints of raw dough flavor in you wine or wash. In primary ferment the majority of alcohol gets produced in the first week to 10 days. Most yeast strains will be killed at an alcohol content around 13%. Hence the specially cultured yeast strains for wines (up to14-16% ABV) and distilling (18-24% ABV). It sounds your wash reached its max alcohol and went in secondary fermentation (which is important for the flavor of wine). For distilling the goal is to separate the alcohol from water so you don't need a secondary ferment.
      Second, your SG seemed slightly on the high side as most commercial distillers aim for 1.0639-1.0836 Specific Gravity. Too high SG can actually inhibit a good fermentation. Adding sugar/simple syrup over the course of a couple of days instead of all at once can help the yeast.
      Third, it sounds you placed your wash under an airlock from day one. The first 2-3 days the yeast needs a lot of oxygen to do its work. I usually do an open fermentation, with cheesecloth/dishtowel + loose lid over the bucket so bugs can't get in. Give it a good stir or swirl twice a day so oxygen can get into the wash.
      You did nothing wrong. Just a combination of high SG with a very limited yeast. Look for a distillers yeast or high alcohol wine yeast. These are just some tweaks to optimize your fermentation the next time. It is all part of the learning process. Since the response is a month late, you probably distilled your wash by now. Curious about the outcome and if the residual unfermented sugars carried over in your distillate.

    • @charleswyatt180
      @charleswyatt180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the information. I ended up double distilling with a bit of sodium carbonate as it had a bit of odor. Not bad but it was there. It turned out fair in the end. I did a second batch. This time using a turbo yeast. Much much better. The yield was higher and the flavor was good. Just added some oak and started the age yesterday. My next will do as you suggest, open ferment for a couple day. I also will avoid using bakers yeast.
      I home brewed ale for many years before trying the distillation. It has been fun learning something new like distilling. Thanks again for your input. It is appreciated.

    • @UgTheViking1
      @UgTheViking1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charleswyatt180 Yeah, I figured the bakers yeast was the main culprit here and possibly an anaerobic fermentation. Bad flavor/odor. Glad you salvaged your batch and it might make a good base for strong flavored infusions, like apple pie moonshine or spices. I appreciate the exchange, so we can all learn from each others tries on the road to the ultimate beverage. It's pure Alchemy. Happy distilling ventures!

    • @charleswyatt180
      @charleswyatt180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UgTheViking1I did exactly that. I infused spices. Thank. Great minds think alike. Take care and be safe.

  • @stevesart
    @stevesart 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a good clean AG vodka/neutral, try long grain white rice. For some complexity, try adding a small amount of wheat.

    • @riddersjc
      @riddersjc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oooh, got a few questions (soz/thank) - Is that using yellow label yeast? What ratio of rice to wheat do you recommend? Any particular type of wheat?

  • @TheJdm2203
    @TheJdm2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again, Jess!
    I was just given a 50pound... err. 22.68kg bucket of invert sugar. Gonna try a few different things with it. I'll let ya know how it works out! Once again! Thank you!!

    • @renn151
      @renn151 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does your vodka have an apple smell and taste?

  • @jasonbritt2497
    @jasonbritt2497 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use pure cane sugar and spring water. Make the wash a consistency of almost corn syrup thickness, just to the point the sugar doesn’t dissolve into the water anymore cloudy in appearance. Run it on a reflux and chill in freezer for at least 24-48 hours before drinking. Best use imo is summer get together, use 1 gallon shine per 2 gallons fruit punch in cooler, use old whiskey bottle full of the shine into hole on watermelon let sit for 24 hours upright. Add strawberries and pineapple to cooler along with cut up watermelon after 24 hours. Fill remaining cooler with punch and ice. (And warning label)

    • @jasonbritt2497
      @jasonbritt2497 ปีที่แล้ว

      If made right when drinking straight should taste like ice cold well water on a hot summer day that doesn’t burn till it hits your belly and have a slight sweetness to it.
      Another super easy way for your viewers to get into it is using corn meal for the wash. Really accessible as well can buy from any grocery store.

  • @JonisMommerency
    @JonisMommerency 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just distilled a tomato paste wash and I'm thinking about adding fruits or spices to it to make a liquor out of it

  • @puffstastypuffs5192
    @puffstastypuffs5192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sugar wash,good to start off..Looking forward to my first all grain session

  • @ryantaylor8195
    @ryantaylor8195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I make a scotch whiskey wash using 6 kgs of sugar and a coopers dark ale pack and turbo yeast .

  • @richardwalkden6349
    @richardwalkden6349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would really appreciate better understanding the process of how flavours / odours and colours move from the mash to the distillate. Does it depend on the type of equipment pot/reflux, temperature, separation or anything else? So for example making a wash with molasses resulting in a strongly flavoured liquid in a reflux still, how does one go about getting those qualities into the spirit? (Hope this makes sense!

    • @dylanluvzcolorado4369
      @dylanluvzcolorado4369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I believe a pot still is the best way to go if you're looking for lots of flavor .

    • @PoppaLongroach
      @PoppaLongroach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      pot still straight into a worm gives most flavor cary over. i run a thumper with same wash in my pot n does good. i dont do sugar washes tho only grain mashes

    • @rocketsroc
      @rocketsroc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True a pot still will yield the most flavor carry over, but don't expect it to taste much like you might expect. Pretty much all flavors are added post distillation or through aging with wood or barrels.

    • @PoppaLongroach
      @PoppaLongroach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rocketsroc i agree completly. my son and i both have small barrels but those are for personal lol. i grew up drinkin plain white dog corn and rye likker if its made right it doesnt need anything added

  • @donaldgilbreath4200
    @donaldgilbreath4200 ปีที่แล้ว

    Depends on what you're making. I've heard of people double distilling sugar wash, then mix 3 parts 180 proof and 1 part water, mix in sugar and Kool aid , and people seem to love it. Sugar wash seems to be goid for creating your own flavors after distillation. Whereas, I'd you wanted rum, brandy, whiskey etc.... you would need to get your flavor through the process. Which requires more skill.

  • @grahamwood8085
    @grahamwood8085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first mash tasted like old sox used corn so I experimented with molasses and brown.sugar rum not to bad lol

  • @diablominero
    @diablominero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I second potatoes. I want to see how they're processed to make fermentable sugar from the starch.

    • @djscottdog1
      @djscottdog1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Potatos are a pain in the ass compared to malt cod you ned to and the enzime to the potatos and i get my malt for less than £20 for 25kg

  • @richardmoulynox
    @richardmoulynox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had an awful tasting pumpkin from my garden and some out of date bread improver with amylase in it - managed to convert it and ferment with bakers yeast. The resulting neutral was for gin and quite a mouthfeel, but was fine.

  • @raytruesdell7873
    @raytruesdell7873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d like to see you do a vodka bro by sugar wash! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @edwardkipp4911
    @edwardkipp4911 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about you try making a corn sugar wash, make a teabag of specialty grains and boil it for a bit, maybe try a few hops in there too for some complexity and see what happens... easy for beginners, very little mess. Just toss the bag when done, and use some turbo yeast for a quick ferment because beginners are impatient. I switched from all grain beer making to this hybrid style and still made some great 🍺 beer

  • @ErikAdalbertvanNagel
    @ErikAdalbertvanNagel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's basically almost a rum. If you add a little molasses for nutrient and more flavour.

  • @MarkMarvin1983
    @MarkMarvin1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 6 gallon fermentation bucket. And a 5 gallon steel soup pot. And a 10lb bag of sugar and a vacuum sealed hand full of yeast. I understand that I have to let it ferment. But how long do I wait for the “bubbler” to be correct. And I’m using an electric distiller.

  • @jamesthomas8481
    @jamesthomas8481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A traditional vodka and then what other ways that you can make vodka out of. Infant many of the spirits I thought were made from certain types of ingredients can actually be made out of alternatives. e.g. vodka can be made from potatoes, or sugar, or rice even so I heard. Then Sake can be made from rice or other starchy sugars...

  • @MirrimBlackfox
    @MirrimBlackfox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beets! I wonder if I could get a hold of Sugar Beets? They would probably be awesome for a mash.

  • @rw-xf4cb
    @rw-xf4cb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sugar wash is also good for those who just want to use with mixers and/or cocktails. The only issue now is to find a good cola recipe as that's become the limiting factor.

  • @Unclesmokey314
    @Unclesmokey314 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use dextrose. Flavor it w melted hard candies at 140 proof. Fun as the day is long but want my own wheated bourbon..... I absolutely LOVE I didn't buy that brewing equipment, just the keg.

  • @Luciffrit
    @Luciffrit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would using say brown, raw or a mix of several sugars make a better product? I even would say try caramelizing some of if not all of the sugar before pitching the yeast. If it works, it won't bring the price of the wash up by much.

  • @dominicmogridge3920
    @dominicmogridge3920 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello my friend.big thanks for your infectious laugh and concise knowledge.I'm in west cork,making hand sanitizer,haha.you've helped me out with your info and a big thanks and bottoms up.I'd like to dedicate a tune for you as off grid and don't have cash.you tube -dominic mogridge doo dah with comedy intro.was sober at the time what could go wrong.thanks again and give it a listen.stay lucky.mad dog,west cork,republic of ireland

  • @toddgoff1893
    @toddgoff1893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just studied up on sweet potato vodka made by george from barley and hops.. looks great

  • @craigwatkins5654
    @craigwatkins5654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jessy. There's a brewery near me that uses milk to distil vodka, I think you need to try that

  • @mannye
    @mannye 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not add a little glycerin to improve the mouthfeel of a sugar wash? Or some tannin? Never tried it with spirit, but tannin often works for mead if it's lacking in body.

  • @AdamMansbridge
    @AdamMansbridge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a Weet Bix Allbran wash vodka!

  • @MadJix
    @MadJix 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see some variations on vodka. Like not just a basic vodka but maybe a kveik vodka or maybe a vodka with hints of other flavors..

  • @MikeEwalt
    @MikeEwalt 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would using sugar liquor for proofing up a grain wash dilute the flavor of the final product?

  • @drdzdd
    @drdzdd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:40 subjective I guess. But everyone got the point anyway. Thx for the video

  • @BitcoinNoddy
    @BitcoinNoddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most of us started with Turbo, but you skipped this step, it would be helpful for new starters to see your thoughts now that you have a few years up your sleeve. Things like speed and output compared to what you experience now (I've only just moved onto Birdwatches)

  • @truelevelbeliever1064
    @truelevelbeliever1064 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually like the flavor profile of a high abv sugar wash afrlter distillation

  • @kevinauld4367
    @kevinauld4367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been using powder'd potatoes for
    Year's for my vodka .

    • @rayfox212
      @rayfox212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? How's that work out? Could you make some suggestions, ide really like to try that.

    • @rayfox212
      @rayfox212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How high is the og in your mash

  • @paulclifford5712
    @paulclifford5712 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jessie...! A mate gave me a 25kg bag of organic wheat... someone suggested making vodka from that...? Is that something you can explore...? I don’t do beer... I’d send it to you man but I think international postage may be worth more than the wheat itself! 😃

  • @MarkMarvin1983
    @MarkMarvin1983 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made a sugar wash with two grape concentrates that were all fruit and a bushel of grapes. It made a pretty decent wine. But when I distilled it. No flavor came out.

  • @brucekrisko4364
    @brucekrisko4364 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about making a vodka from winter white wheat grain using white wheat malt for your base grain? Might be a nice light tasting vodka like Absolut.

  • @JacobMcFarland-o8p
    @JacobMcFarland-o8p 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m in the process of marking a suger wash with sugar and cinnamon any tips it’s been fermenting for 2 days now I’m using a turbo yeast and I’m planning on step feeding it till it hit my yeast ABV tolerance of 20% I’ve made lots of mead and wines but I’m new to distilling so any tips would be greatly appreciated

  • @abrad3061
    @abrad3061 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stupid question what makes vodka vodka I was always under the impression that it had to be made from potatoes originally and then grain

  • @chagarlic6829
    @chagarlic6829 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Jessie ! I got one for ya ! How about making a whole other kind of finished spirt. Something like Candy. Using candy like gummy worms or something harder like Worthers Original hard candy or possibly even the soft and chewy kind. Idk ! Just a thaught bro. 😎

  • @clintthompson7417
    @clintthompson7417 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    id like to see you make original Russian drink Polugar translates to bread wine and was popular before vodka came about (outlawed by tsar in 1895) grain based recipe