Family Fortunes - S1/Ep01!!! (1980)
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- And now, a TRUE first...
From January 1980, the FIRST EVER edition of 'Family Fortunes'!
Starring Bob Monkhouse.
The Price Family v The Killeen Family
Broadcast - 06th January 1980.
With grateful thanks to Bryan Higgins. - บันเทิง
The Killeen's are my family! Pamela is my Nan! Thank you so much for uploading this, you've made our whole family's day being able to watch this!
beffrogers Mandy is my nan, so that means we are family! I’m Adam Emma’s son
@@adamcostas7398 I'm no family but I am amazed how the gathering is possible here on TH-cam..
@@roxterat came across this, I was at school when this show aired, all the young women being Nan's is kinda weird, sad to think the older men are probably no longer with us, life is so short when you think about it....
That's great to read, I always wonder if contestants or relations get to see these :)
I’ll take things that aren’t real for 500 please Bob
Bob Monkhouse was a cracking presenter.
creep*
@@Jongo1 Oh you just HAD to be THAT person didn't you. W⚓
Brilliant 🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Bob MonkHouse was my favourite host of Family Fortunes.
Me too
An excellent find from the very hit-and-miss ATV archive. Wish the Jack Parnell big band soundtrack could be found, the theme was always a great show piece.
Bob was a legend
The Price family knew that the missing answer was "Sex" but it was 1980 and they didn't dare say it.
Bob shows his mastery. I miss him. RIP Bob. x
1928-2003
Absolute legend
This version with Bob is so much better than the 'All Star' garbage that is on these days. Most of the time, the 'stars' aren't even celebrities and I do wonder why 'celebrities' now seem to be the default option for these quizzes. In these straitened times, surely it would be better to give ordinary people the chance to appear on TV to win a few prizes and some money to make their lives more enjoyable.
Absolutely! It seems TV execs are determined to make z-list celebs into contestants - there are very few 'fun' quiz shows left on TV as it is...
Gordon Beattie Tenable is a bit like family fortunes... Without the family...
mazzab1970 Bob Monkhouse was the man and legendary host. I used to watch it with my nan on Friday nights. Also after Bob all the others were ok even Max sort of was a laugh until Andy. As for Vernon he can fuck off
so true, how many shows have been ruined over the years because execs. insist on adding celebrities. I guess in their minds celebrities equals ratings.....but time has proven that to be untrue.
mazzab1970, no doubt if they brought back 321 they will have celebrities we've not even heard of !!
What a find! The fabulous electronic raspberry noise for a wrong answer - exclusively used in the U.K. was an attempt at a synthesised "duck". That makes sense now. Note also they don't play it for a zero in the "big money" game.
my brother actually taped a fart that sounded just like this. we did think of sending it in at the time (i think it was during les dennis period) but i suspect they wouldnt have aired it
VERY surprised by how modern the set looks. Doesn't look like 1980 at all outside of "Mr. Babbage" and the score displays.
It was something of a gear shift for ITV - you begin to think it was TOO modern as they went brown and beige for the set and carpet for Series 2 - 6.
I wasn't around during the time so I never understood the appeal of brown and beige. Those colors were used on a lot of TV sets during the early '80s. This set (Series 1) looks FAR better than what they used during Series 2-6 in my opinion.
The set almost looks as if it was from Les Dennis' era.
@@BradDP90 Give Us A Clue also had a brown & biege colour scheme for it's studio set.
I was gonna say, watched the 1982 episode and that looked like it was 10 years before this
This definitely seems alot more upbeat than other episodes of the era lol.
Blimey this is great!
The glorious ATV chimes
19:48 - Little did he know that Max Bygraves would later host the show :)
And make so many mistakes and errors, which then damaged his career lol.
Bob was the best host ever of this show. R.I.P.
You've won a prize!
@@binhkhoiluuuc1718 definitely and my favourite
That was very spooky what Bob said about Max
I remember this on a Friday evening as I was getting ready to watch the incredible hulk which was on next, I was 8,great times
It may have been on Fridays afterwards but this was shown on Sunday 6/1/1980
@@jamesmcgrath578 I was 8, definitely Friday night,either family fortunes or play your cards right ,then hulk,1982
It's ALWAYS a PHENOMENAL feeling going back in tv
Cos OLD tv is WAY BETTER than NEW tv
PURE ENTERTAINMENT this is
I loved the old gameshows.
But what seemed to me back in 1982 when new regional ITV franchises replaced old franchises elsewhere, the new frsnchises dropped shows that were produced from the old franchises.
But when ATV changed to Central, Central continued producing shows what ATV did before. Same hosts, same production team per ATV, same theme music, but Central ident and jingle and endcap. It's as if nothing changed in the midlands apart from right at the very start and right st the very end of programmes.
R.I.P Bob Monkhouse & Max Bygraves
I’m an American and I love some of these British game shows. This is like the American show Family Feud.
Family Fortunes was based on Family Feud, and Max Bygraves who replaced Bob Monkhouse in 1983 as host was very much like Richard Dawson of Family Feud in presentation style.
Was Max the worst host before Vernon Kay became the new worst host?
A shams Bob was only on it for 2 years, while Les Dennis seemed to be on it forever.
I can confirm this is definitley the first FF show to be broadcast. My Moms in it. (Killeen family) 😀 SPOILER. It may not have been the first recorded but because they won the Jackpot the powers that be decided to air it first.
if you watched any quiz show in the 80s/90s most often the first and last shows broadcast would be the biggest winning shows
i like to call it "in with a bang - out with a bang"
@@danwoodhouse9290 The same is still true, second biggest win often goes first.
Bloody hell,this is 40 years ago!!
Strange thing for me is, I remember so vividly Bob Monkhouse hosting Family Fortunes, yet he left the show when I was only 2 years old! I appreciate that it's an experience to just me personally, but isn't it unusual to have watched something so young and remembering watching it every week? I couldn't believe it when I read it on Wikipedia, I just assumed that he was on it until I were at least 5 or 6 years old.
Just like "Bullseye" the cash prizes are less than they would be compared to series 2 and later. Also, no spot prizes so more incentive to pass on a difficult question. It's spooky that Max Bygraves (who took over FF in the future) gets mentioned in the very first show.
I noticed that! Highly ironic! =D
Sir Moovenstein That was ironic he mentioned Max. In return when Max came he mentioned Bob's name. The spot prizes must have come from series 2
I always liked the theme tune to this era of _Family Fortunes_. Since these editions came up on Challenge, I've personally named the theme "The Devil Went Down to Nottingham", as the fiddle makes it sound like "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" by the Charlie Parker Band, and that the show was recorded in Nottingham.
SPOILER BELOW
Also nice to see the jackpot being won on the very first show!
Actually, the first four series and part of the fifth came from Elstree. Production moved to Nottingham part way through Max Bygraves' first series.
Listening to David Lindup's theme here is like doing a 180 from listening to his famous APM comedy track I SAY, I SAY, I SAY
Me too this was the best theme
So I guess you could say the devil went down to Borehamwood.
Are there any more of these from the ATV era?
What a lovely time, when Bob, for example, could make a joke about 'all sexes, male, female and convertible' without uproar on Twitter and a campaign to cancel him :)
R.I.P. Charles Babbage
Born: December 26, 1791
Died: October 18, 1871
Interesting dates :-
1971 : First email sent over the internet (then called ARPANET) (not sure who to!)
1991 : The first internet pages were published on the World Wide Web
Many episodes from the first three seasons don't exist anymore. Perhaps the only reason this exists is because Monkhouse asked for a copy.
as i understood it bob recorded a lot of his shows off air. this is clearly from the master tape though as it contains the clock and timecode also the quality is far better than an off air PAL recording on a domestic format
@@michaelmcdonald2348 How do I read the slate? What does 5422/79 mean? It's not like our version at the time, in which the episodes were labeled by number of shows recorded in the year at that point.
@Vahan Nisanian It was the 5422nd programme (of any genre) to be recorded by this particular production company (ATV), and was recorded in 1979. So 5422/79.
@@bryanhiggins3102 Oh, I see. In our version, it's just the total number of episodes the show alone on ABC had done in the year. For instance, #80-001 was Giles Vs. Tack. Thank you.
The shades of purple make this episode seem contemporary. Why did they change it to horrible shades of brown and beige?
I will never know - TV producers seemed to love beige and brown in the early days of Colour TV - they look fine on Black & White, which defeats the purpose...
They went beige for Series 2. In 1981. When most people would have a colour television (well I would assume they did anyway)
They had some quite funky music arrangements in S1 which seem to have been made blander in S2 onwards as well, which is a shame. The purple set definitely looks more up to date by 2017 standards! There were a few production glitches as well here -- but it must be said that Monkhouse nailed it first time, like he always did, legend that he is.
More guitar with wah pedal for instance.
Yep, it just shows how excellent Bob was at making a show go smoothly even there WERE errors - just look at how how handled 'The Golden Shot'...
Bob's gags written by Spike Mullins, same writer who did the Ronnie Corbett easy chair stories
I thought there was already a clip of the opening to the first edition on TH-cam. It was between the Parker family and the Steer family. Bob has a surprisingly mellow walk-in and says "Well, how'd you like it so far?"
Some of the commenters on that video said it was the first-ever airing, maybe it was just the first one taped.
my suspicion is that they broadcast this first so they could have a winner on the first show. a lot of quiz shows would have the first in series winning the jackpot/star prize
@@michaelmcdonald2348
Another family would have had to have won a larger jackpot the week before when it was being recorded because the first show ever aired would have had to have the jackpot at only￡1000. This show would have to have been at least 3 shows in recorded.
the greatest host sadly missed
he was trying to be Richard Dawson minus kissing the women on the lips instead of having his own personality.
British Family Feud!
Awesome!
40 years ago today.
I'd never heard of Bob Monkhouse before Family Fortunes. The Golden Shot was before my time. He seemed to struggle for jokes when he was interviewing the families. He normally has something for every situation.
Don't you remember Bob hosting Celebrity Squares?! I was too young to remember Golden Shot, but if you're of a similar age to me, then Celebrity Squares was the "prequel" to Family Fortunes.
The irony of bob’s joke about Max Bygraves. When Max would take over the hosting of this show when Bob left.😂😂
That was very extraordinary when Bob mentioned Max.
One or two changes I noticed here than from later eras of the show. 1. Lives were called "ducks", and were horizontally across the board instead of vertically down the sides. 2. Families only had to score 200 to get to play Big Money, instead of 300 as in Les Dennis's era, or highest score after so many rounds, as in Vernon Kay's era. 3. No spot prizes. 4. Less answers on the board: IE top 4 answers, instead of the top 7 or 8 answers in Les & Vernon's eras.
No clock on screen during the first Big Money round and a clock that counts up in the second round.
It's definitely weird seeing the answers to the side of Mr. Babbage as opposed to the middle with the "lives lost" indicators on the sides (here, the "lives lost" indicator is to the right of the answers). They must have changed it to the more familiar look starting in Series 2.
Plus it was the first family to pass £200 played the Big Money game for the first series so they probably changed it to £300 from series 2 onwards.
They did indeed change it to 300 points in the 2nd series and started the rolling jackpot of up to £2,500.
gbgameshows And they added the spot prizes in Series 2.
Also, it has to be said, on the first series of _Family Feud_, the families had to reach just $200 to get to the Fast Money game, upped to $300 from the second series, and for Richard Dawson's final ABC series it was $400.
Notice that what became "lives lost" were originally called "ducks".
This was before my time, however this was back when TV and Gameshows beat anything today
Produced by William G. Stewart? I never knew...
...who had a falling out with Bob after series 2 and never came back until he left and Max Bygraves took over.
For those not familiar, those format is based off the American show "Family Feud". It originally began airing in ABC daytime in July 1976 with Richard Dawson as host. A syndicated nighttime show began airing in September 1977. The daytime show would last until June 1985, with the nighttime one leaving the air that September. A revival would begin in CBS daytime in July 1988 with new host Ray Combs. A new syndicated version would follow that September. The daytime show would air until September 1993. As for the nighttime show, the last show with Combs as host would air in the spring of 1994. By September, Richard Dawson was back. It would be cancelled in September 1995. A new version in syndication would start in September 1999 with Louie Anderson. He would be replaced in the fall of 2002 by Richard Karn. John O'Hurley would be the new host in 2006. Current host Steve Harvey has been hosting since the fall of 2010.
The first woman in the Price Family (the lady with the long black hair) reminds me of actress Pauline Collins
January 6th next year will mark the 40th anniversary of the launch of Family Fortunes.
40 years today!!!!
I wondered why Bob Monkhouse was so obssesed with Bob Hope, turns out Bob (Monkohouse) wrote for Bob Hope. The legend became a golden legend, much missed
The bit that ages this the most might be 20:52, where Bob seems to be waiting for a producer to tell him to turn around rather than it being in an earpiece, and them not just cutting those few seconds out.
1980? wow, I thought it was earlier from when I was a kid, but watching it now it was quite modern and slick for 1980. Would have said c1983 after watching it now.
MINI SPOILER [Click 'Read More' to reveal]
Right from the off, it goes to show that prudity will cost you dearly in _Family Fortunes_.
Anthony Hobson i
19:54 Bob called it the American name "fast money"
We need more episodes from 1980 please
I think only 2 exist as I believe most of the ATV archive was deleted when it became Central in 1982
Wow, again great too see it from the master. How do you come across these?
Duck farm 17:13
Bob Monkhouse says about Max Bygraves before he even took his place as the host 19:47
Funny noise 20:40
Win 24:37
It's interesting to look at the early episodes of game shows and see how much has changed. Other commenters have already brought up most of them, but I wanted to point out how the question doesn't appear at the bottom of the screen as it would in later series, and how only the head of the family would give an answer when a family gave three incorrect answers rather than all five members each giving an answer. Goes to show that it takes time for a game show to morph into a recognisable form.
When did they make the change to having each of the 5 members giving an answer for a steal instead of the head of the family only, do you know? I ask only because....the original version of this show (aka Family Feud here in the States), had that rule for the duration of its' run (which ended in 1985). The Australian version of this period also had it at the least into 1982 from looking at an episode from that year. Here stateside at least, it wasn't until 1988 when the show was revived for its' 2nd incarnation, when that switched to each member giving an answer (they also eliminated the play or pass option as an aside for that version). Given that, I'm curious to know if you guys did it first or not. I'd almost think given the 8 year gap to when we instituted it, that you may have.
Same colour set when Les Dennis later hosted the show in the Nineties!!!
Good old Bob! RIP xxxx
This is series 1 but I'm sure it's not episode 1. There's a clip of the opening from episode 1 on you tube and Bob's first words are "How do you like it so far?"
This is the first ever episode.
The clip you refer to is from the 3rd edition in that series. The VT clock shows 'Family Fortunes 2' as it was the first broadcast edition - there was a 'Family Fortunes 1' which was an unbroadcast pilot which no longer exists in the archives.
gbgameshows Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. I guess not much of series 1 & 2 exists now.
gbgameshows That is criminal :(
Can't Challenge show the few surviving ATV Family Fortunes editions from 1980 and 1981?
If there was a film about bob monkhouse's life, Kenneth Branagh would be the perfect actor to play him, as they are very similar especially when he was younger.
Bob Monkhouse (1980-1983)
Max Bygraves (1983-1985)
Les Dennis (1987-2002)
Andy Collins (2002)
Vernon Kay (2006-onwards)
Gino D'Acampo (2020 onwards)
@@junglebrov Dear me, let's not mention him, shall we? What a total miss-casted disaster he proved to me!! 😒😒
Bob making a mistake at the beginning of Round 2... "The top 5 answers... The top 4 answers... Lucky I noticed that!"
If Max did a mistake like that, he was slated for it, so how come Bob wasn't? :/
That's not a slating by me, by the way... I love things like that in gameshows, when the hosts lose control at odd times... We all like to see things go wrong on TV from time to time.... It makes our viewing that much more interesting.
Bob Monkhouse wasn't slated because he is the greatest gameshow host of all time and also the greatest Comedian of all time, that might have something to do with.
Could still make goofs like the rest though... "Should you wish to PISS?", but, like I say, I love all that.
@@bryanhiggins3102 HA ! I know what mean
I recall everyone thinking Bob was crazy orange tanned but by today's standards he looks pretty pale but it's lovely to see the families and a time when normal people didn't fake tan and sunbed until they look like mahogany. The ladies look gorgeous with beautiful natural pale skin, the word English rose springs to mind
Can't challenge show the 2 pre spot prize ATV series with Bob?
First question on the FF series premiere: Name something a soccer reference takes onto a pitch.
The first #1 answer is whistle.
I love that they call strikes a duck
20:37 - they have to wait and get a sound effect to let the know the computer is ready!
Or rather, production secretaries Shelley and Lesley had finished inputting data into the computer for display on Mr. Babbage.
Well that didn't take long!
1st ever strike @ 6:38
Any more series
Classy Bob sadly missed
They used to give the family a black and white photo then in the later shows a colour picture
From the off Bob owned the show. The others presenters who followed him was never near.
Les was good.
les was probably more laid back and better comedy value. bob was slick on every game show he hosted. i would say bob and brucie were the real kings of game shows in that they could move to any show even a completely new idea and completely nail it
Carpet, carpet everywhere... On the walls, on the set...
The wonderful Bob Monkhouse the good days a lot of money then, but not now its all toy money.
That's not a yellow card, that's a duck
So funny (The reason that strikes were called "ducks" that is because the buzzer imitates the sound of a duck)
Anyone know where I can find season 14 episode 10 ????
In memory of bob monkhouse
Have you got the 12th December 1981 show?
I would love to see Family Fortunes 12 December 1981 please
Does anyone know what the music is and if there is a clean version I could listen to at all. I know it's written by Dave Lyndup.
Jack Parnell and Dave Lindup (father of Level 42 keyboardist Mike Lindup)
cool Mr. Babbage screen
Bob forgot his joke books this week and seems none less smooth for it.
The ATV “In Colour” logo @ 0:29 is from “The Muppet Show”.
the same one yes, but it preceded every show produced by ATV in the UK, muppets, crossroads, sapphire and steel etc
all ATV shows played the ident before a programme. I lived in an ATV region in the 70's/80's
I wonder how many of the first series still survive in the archives
Somewhere in Bob Monkhouse's old house he would of recorded them on VHS.
This is the only surviving episode from Series 1.
@@partyentertains4092 sad to hear that. My family were on episode 19
@@michaeljcallaghan78 I believe your family’s episode was one of the episodes Bob Monkhouse taped back at home, according to TVBrain. What last name did they have?
Is this the UK Version of Family Feud?
Sure it is. Same format, different name.
Very surprised at how few people said Jack Nicklaus for the famous golfer. We never found out what the top answer was (maybe Tom Watson).
Trevino might be the one. Yes it’s lost in time!
@@MarkSmith-tp6zc Yes, I used to love watching the BBC's Pro-Celebrity series; especially when Lee and Seve were the pros.
Has he got to bloody shout?!
Not bad, but Les Dennis was the best host in my opinion.
6:13 Whistle First Ever Answer
Dont suppose you have the edition 1980/81 with the Whittle family.. cant remember the name of the other family.. ?
The ATV "In Colour" logo at the very beginning was from "The Muppet Show" since it was originally from UK, and then distributed by ITC in the US. "Family Fortunes" was originally an ATV game show, and ITC did not distributed the show here, because Goodson/Todman still has "Family Feud". This was one of several British shows that are not distributed by ITC in the US.
It would have also been on at the beginning of The Muppet Show, that also being an ATV Production. However, in the case of this video, it's from Family Fortunes.
Could you Imagine giving anybody a framed photo on a gameshow today, almost as bad as blankety blank chequebook and pen
And did you notice it was a B&W photo!
@@astrabelmont The ultimate in stingy game show prizes, it was mentioned in the Max era that the winner's photo was in colour but the losers was black and white!!
I can't believe only four people said frog. I was expecting rabbit and frog to be number 1andr 2. Also, that family seemed slightly obsessed with bugs.
Also the host made a mistake, when the family stole in the first round, he said they would get the 90 + the value of the last answer, but they only got the 90.
But in our version from 1992-1995 and again from 1999-2003, the family who steals get the value added to their score.
Was Family Fortunes hit by the 11 week strike in 1979
No as it didn't begin until January 6th 1980.
19:50 ironic that Max Bygrabes would replace Bob on FF.
I thought this episode was lost.
Nope. This is the sole surviving episode of Series 1 in the ITV Archive.
Anthony Hobson This is why ITC never imported this show to the US, because of Goodson & Todman did the American version of “Family Feud”. “The Muppet Show” was an example of a TV show that was imported from the UK to the US distribution, ITC when it was on ATV originally.
23:34 They should've played the familiar "buzzer sound effect" instead of the ding sound effect"
cutemimi25 They done that in the next series.
The Dutch, Flemish and Portuguese version always played a ding.
@@SegaMegadrive Well 0 people always equals a buzzer to me, then again where I'm from they've been doing that since 1976 "Family Feud in the US more specifically"
Family Fortunes 2
VTR 5422/79/PAL
PART 1 TAKE 01
0:08
interesting bob didnt bother kissing the hand of the first sister but the other two kisses their hands and tells one she is a good looking lady
3:41 why does he look so much like Elton John did at that time? It might just be the sunglasses.
Whoa, they’re saying the word soccer in the UK after all
yippee
xxxxx
Soccer, Bob? Bloody Soccer???
I'm American, and I found "soccer" quite jarring coming from a British mouth.
This one is easy -- OFCOM reasons. This is a legal issue that could have come up if Bob's card said "football." That would be legally ambiguous because it may refer to the Football Association or the Rugby Football Union. An ambiguous question would get Mr. Stewart, Mr. Monkhouse, and Mr. Goodson in legal trouble. He used the nickname of the FA in order to ensure the question was not about the RFU.
Would've been the IBA in 1980.
@@WhiteHatBobby I do wonder whether anyone still used 'football' to refer to rugby in 1980 though. I'd have thought that 'soccer' would have fallen out of use in the UK by then.
When are u up loading more
Adam Hull When ATV turned into Central TV a lot of these episodes were wiped so the pre 1983 episodes of Family Fortunes are incredibly uncommon
One thing that is bugging me after watching this, even though it is totally irrelevant now... where would the X have been placed on the board, if indeed at all, should a steal attempt have been unsuccessful?
RSS1988 As I recall, the 3 smaller Xs would disappear and be replaced by one bigger X.
Now that I would have liked to have seen, thanks for letting us know.