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I have a 6" Woods tiller. If you keep going over several times it'll go deeper than 3.5 inches the skids will start going down in the tilled soil as you keep going.
45 hp Kubota, 7 foot Landpride tiller. I usually follow a 2 bottom 16" dearborn plow and 6 foot disk. Those depth gauge runners do nothing unless you're tilling hardpan or virgin soil. Thanks for these good videos.
I believe if you go over it a few times you can get extra depth as the skids will sink into your tilled ground. Also, on a side note, try to not engsge pto with tiller all the way up. You mention it's noisy when you engsge. That's cause there is too much angle on the pto shaft. You'll notice it gets quieter as you lower it
Something to consider; when making your successive passes, the skids sink in, tilling deeper. I've tilled down to 6-7" with repeated passes without changing the skid depth. You can control the depth another way. Adjust your top link to be very long for less depth. I've cut grass without disturbing the soil that way. Helps with leveling the yard. I appreciate the tip about moving as you drop your tiller. I've constantly had "snipe" because I tried to get the sides square.
I'm from Pace florida and currently own 23 ackers near Andalusia Alabama that is heavily timbered with a mix of oak and poplar. You channel is so very helpful. Looking to purchase my first tractor and you information is greatly appreciated. Thanks for sharing with the community
Nice video! Thanks. The diamond shape of the gear box on that king cutter tiller suggests that is a complete gear drive implement. Top, bottom, and idler set in the middle.
My dad and I did commercial, industrial and agricultural weed abatement mostly with a bush hog and a big Howard rototiller behind a Massey Ferguson tractor. People were always complimenting on how pretty and smooth we left it after rototilling the ground with no footprints or tire tracks anywhere. I cannot find any reason for leaving the tailboard up. And it always leaves the ground looking bumpy and very messy! We always rototilled in first gear low range with high RPM to leave the ground as smooth and pretty as possible.
You leave the back up when the ground is wet and you want to speed up the drying process of the dirt than you go back with the back down after a couple days and make your seed bed
@@rickkatz4692 we never waste time going back for a second time on any job! We do it right the first time! We almost always check the moisture level of the ground before we go to the trouble and expense of transporting the equipment to the job! My dad always used the shovel test, I also learned how to do the grip test from soil engineers on construction job sites. Same results. Not too dry and not too wet. We always left our jobs looking as smooth as buttered bread. Never ever leave tire tracks or footprints! And always leave clean even edges all the way around. Never ever leave a job looking like it was done by some rookie! A good rototilling job is art! Many customers claimed that it was so pretty that they didn't want to disturb it. That's why we had lots of repeat customers every year. People could tell that we were professionals. We charged by the hour with a 3 hour minimum. I worked in the family business for many years and also worked on many construction job sites operating heavy equipment for over 30 years.
The other commenter is correct regarding diakon radishes. In the fall, before first frost, plant the tillage radishes. They will grow the root into the hardpan and deeper. In the spring, if there is no winter die off, till it to kill it. Wait about 3 to 4 weeks, then till for planting.
Normally you only replace rototiller blades when they wear down very thin or if they break or get really bent. They're designed to be self sharpening. And they wear at different speeds so you very seldom replace more than two or three at a time. They can last for several months or years of heavy use. Blade wear depends on several different factors From metallurgy to types of ground and obstacles encountered. And you mentioned sideways pressure on the bearings. If sideways pressure is bad on bearings then every single drill press ever made has a serious design flaw. Their main function is to put a lot of sideways pressure on the bearings inside the quill. Just a thought. 😁
I have a hard time ending with a flat finished surface. I use a 445 JD and 3pt tiller. There is always a ridge between passes, especially after repeating a few times to break up the pan a bit. The clay soil doesnt help.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Don’t think so. Its in pretty good shape. It seems hard to find info on how deep to till. 3” to 8”. Maybe I till too deep, especially on a second pass? Thanks for the comment
Top soil can be deeper in different parts of the country. No Till is a great practice if you have the equipment to do it. This is what we did this spring: th-cam.com/video/fvXV4LN9rfk/w-d-xo.html
Do all tillers need to have a slip clutch pto shaft? I got this old one that didn’t come with one and I’m wondering if I need to buy one that has one on it.
It's not necessary.....you could run a shear pin PTO shaft with no issues. I wouldn't spend the money needlessly if your current tiller does all you want it to do.
@@PineyGroveHomestead I forgot to mention that the tiller I got didn’t come with a shaft, that’s why I was wondering if it needed one with a slip clutch. I’m still new to the whole PTO tractor stuff. Great vid. Thanks for the response. 👍🏼
@@ArturoGarzaID The slip clutch just allows something to give without stalling the tractor or breaking the tiller, like if a big rock or tree root got caught in the tiller. TBH, the only time my clutch has slipped has been in really dry clay ground.
After watching a bunch of videos there seems to be a difference between a tiller and a rototiller. Why do people think those two terms are interchangeable when they're talking about something totally different. When some people talk about a tiller they're talking about something more like a disc that does not have a drive shaft. I love running a tractor mounted rototiller and did it for many years in our family business growing up. We also had a tandem disc because some customers requested discing. The rototiller always did a much nicer job in a lot less time. What the rototiller did in one pass the disc took many passes.
Lots of other factors tractor weight also determine size equipment you can run i love Kubota tractor but number 1 problem Kubota is there lighter than most on market so keep that on mind definitely makes a difference on hills piece of equipment can flip tractor Kubota is the worst light high center of gravity 😊
I use Super UDT 2 from the Kubota dealer. There may be other compatible fluids, but I only use Kubota. I change that out in this video: th-cam.com/video/QwnB-MaMWaY/w-d-xo.html
On that depth adjustment it looks like there is room to drill more holes so it will till deeper. Our Howard tiller would till about 8-9 inches deep on the first pass, even deeper on the second pass. On another issue I have heard all my life that plowing causes hard pan and rototilling loosens it up. After doing some quick research there are several types of hardpan and a variety of causes for hard pan and a variety of ways to deal with it. I read several articles and they seem to agree on very little. Hardpan can be anything from compacted soil that water or roots cannot penetrate all the way to being sandstone. It can be anywhere from a few inches deep to several feet deep. It can be dealt with by mechanical means or by adding amendments to the soil and letting nature take its course. I get the feeling that tractor dealers are the ones that promote one type or another of farming equipment using hard-pan as a catchphrase to help sales.
@@PineyGroveHomestead true, you do have to rototill when the ground is crumbly and not too wet or too dry. My dad did the shovel test on jobs. And a soil engineer taught me how to do the finger test on another job.
@@PineyGroveHomestead don't tear your machine up on ground thy is too dry or too hard. Usually rototill a few days to a couple of weeks after a heavy rain.
You can just remove those skids from the bottom completely if you wanna dig down faster, they arent necessary, you just dont wanna remove them if you are digging rocky soil, a rock could hit the gear box and damage it potentially.
If you have a quick hitch or even the Pat's quick hitch, then clearance may not be an issue for you. Most of my implements are old with the pins to the outside and welded so they won't come loose!
Bush hogs to determine the size 1 ft equals 6 pto h.p so 5 ft bushhog 30 pto h.p. when you go to 6 ft it changes need min 40 pto h.p 7 ft need 50 hp. 8 foot bush hog 3 gear boxes uses less power i have ran 8 ft bush ogs 40 h.p tractor no problem
Bad idea never tighten your slip clutch that tight if it slipping already like you said over working tiller eventually destroy your upper gear box. I have seen this happen over and over I have kk used it for 20 years now issues I don't abuse it not commercial grade most are not need to use as residential not commercial if so go buy commercial grade tiller
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Few things better than being on a diesel tractor in your own field!!!!🚜 my happy place!
Agree! Just got in from 4 hours of tilling plots a few minutes ago!
Lots of good tips on using a 3pt tiller. That King Kutter does a nice job!
We love how it can transform a field quickly!
I have a 6" Woods tiller. If you keep going over several times it'll go deeper than 3.5 inches the skids will start going down in the tilled soil as you keep going.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
45 hp Kubota, 7 foot Landpride tiller. I usually follow a 2 bottom 16" dearborn plow and 6 foot disk. Those depth gauge runners do nothing unless you're tilling hardpan or virgin soil.
Thanks for these good videos.
Thanks! Tillers are awesome.
I believe if you go over it a few times you can get extra depth as the skids will sink into your tilled ground.
Also, on a side note, try to not engsge pto with tiller all the way up. You mention it's noisy when you engsge. That's cause there is too much angle on the pto shaft. You'll notice it gets quieter as you lower it
Thanks for watching and the tips!
Wouldn't have hurt to have PT o's up to 540 before he engaged the ground.
Great information.. just bought a tiller and can’t wait to use it.
They make a pretty garden/field! Thanks for watching.
Something to consider; when making your successive passes, the skids sink in, tilling deeper. I've tilled down to 6-7" with repeated passes without changing the skid depth.
You can control the depth another way. Adjust your top link to be very long for less depth. I've cut grass without disturbing the soil that way. Helps with leveling the yard.
I appreciate the tip about moving as you drop your tiller. I've constantly had "snipe" because I tried to get the sides square.
Thanks for watching. Other tractor videos here: th-cam.com/play/PLG5yS75HLzo3RVqEuA0f6IioXV6FtFhHW.html
I'm from Pace florida and currently own 23 ackers near Andalusia Alabama that is heavily timbered with a mix of oak and poplar. You channel is so very helpful. Looking to purchase my first tractor and you information is greatly appreciated. Thanks for sharing with the community
We are happy you find it useful! Thanks for watching.
Tractor Supply used to carry King Kutter. They switched to County Line because it was cheaper. I have a 6ft King Kutter Brush Hog and its GREAT
We have worked our King Cutter brush hog hard! th-cam.com/video/2LtKLLMwSRE/w-d-xo.html
great life you have, I am buying my first tractor and enjoy my 7 flat acres, just to enjoy my retirement
Nice video! Thanks.
The diamond shape of the gear box on that king cutter tiller suggests that is a complete gear drive implement. Top, bottom, and idler set in the middle.
Been a great machine for us so far. Thanks for watching.
Good hints! Thanks!
I will just receive my Kubota, for my 1,5 ha. I'm looking forward to use it!
Liked, Shared, Viewed, Subscribed! Love Piney Grove channel and content! The information and knowledge is the best ever!
Thanks so much for the support!
Thanks for the video. Lots of good knowledge.
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My dad and I did commercial, industrial and agricultural weed abatement mostly with a bush hog and a big Howard rototiller behind a Massey Ferguson tractor.
People were always complimenting on how pretty and smooth we left it after rototilling the ground with no footprints or tire tracks anywhere.
I cannot find any reason for leaving the tailboard up. And it always leaves the ground looking bumpy and very messy!
We always rototilled in first gear low range with high RPM to leave the ground as smooth and pretty as possible.
Going slow and steady will lay down a nice bed for sure!
You leave the back up when the ground is wet and you want to speed up the drying process of the dirt than you go back with the back down after a couple days and make your seed bed
@@rickkatz4692 we never waste time going back for a second time on any job!
We do it right the first time!
We almost always check the moisture level of the ground before we go to the trouble and expense of transporting the equipment to the job!
My dad always used the shovel test, I also learned how to do the grip test from soil engineers on construction job sites. Same results. Not too dry and not too wet.
We always left our jobs looking as smooth as buttered bread.
Never ever leave tire tracks or footprints! And always leave clean even edges all the way around. Never ever leave a job looking like it was done by some rookie!
A good rototilling job is art!
Many customers claimed that it was so pretty that they didn't want to disturb it.
That's why we had lots of repeat customers every year.
People could tell that we were professionals.
We charged by the hour with a 3 hour minimum.
I worked in the family business for many years and also worked on many construction job sites operating heavy equipment for over 30 years.
Nice good job on explaining
Thank you! Tilling is fun.....we have a new tilling video coming out soon!
Super helpful! Many thanks.
Thanks for watching. We have many tractor videos in this playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLG5yS75HLzo3RVqEuA0f6IioXV6FtFhHW.html
The other commenter is correct regarding diakon radishes. In the fall, before first frost, plant the tillage radishes. They will grow the root into the hardpan and deeper. In the spring, if there is no winter die off, till it to kill it. Wait about 3 to 4 weeks, then till for planting.
We've planted them before.
Great info!!!
Thank you!!!
Just got in from tilling that field this fall! Thanks for watching.
Normally you only replace rototiller blades when they wear down very thin or if they break or get really bent.
They're designed to be self sharpening.
And they wear at different speeds so you very seldom replace more than two or three at a time.
They can last for several months or years of heavy use.
Blade wear depends on several different factors
From metallurgy to types of ground and obstacles encountered.
And you mentioned sideways pressure on the bearings.
If sideways pressure is bad on bearings then every single drill press ever made has a serious design flaw.
Their main function is to put a lot of sideways pressure on the bearings inside the quill.
Just a thought. 😁
All good points. Thanks for watching.
Good video thanks
Very informative, Thank You
Glad it was helpful! Here's another similar video: th-cam.com/video/fvXV4LN9rfk/w-d-xo.html
I like my 6 Ft King Cutter tiller, that I got in 2019. I check the oil level and grease the zerks / fittings. I think I'll check underneath it.
6' would cut up some ground quick! Thanks for watching.
Nice video. thanks. just got a tiller !
Thank you. We have lots of tilling videos in this playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLG5yS75HLzo3B_kuSLkG7zUbMJ22vw4GS.html
I have a hard time ending with a flat finished surface. I use a 445 JD and 3pt tiller. There is always a ridge between passes, especially after repeating a few times to break up the pan a bit. The clay soil doesnt help.
I'm trying to think what would cause that.....maybe the tailgate is too narrow or bent?
@@PineyGroveHomestead Don’t think so. Its in pretty good shape. It seems hard to find info on how deep to till. 3” to 8”. Maybe I till too deep, especially on a second pass? Thanks for the comment
Ok! Tilling vs plowing I been listening to County advice pushing no till practice savings on top soil. Like that point you make deep till advantage
Top soil can be deeper in different parts of the country. No Till is a great practice if you have the equipment to do it. This is what we did this spring: th-cam.com/video/fvXV4LN9rfk/w-d-xo.html
I have a lmc made in ala gear drive 48 inch tiller and i till 6 to 7 inches love it i either use an old l1500 kubota or a mt180 Mitsubishi works great
Tilling is so satisfying!
Do all tillers need to have a slip clutch pto shaft? I got this old one that didn’t come with one and I’m wondering if I need to buy one that has one on it.
It's not necessary.....you could run a shear pin PTO shaft with no issues. I wouldn't spend the money needlessly if your current tiller does all you want it to do.
@@PineyGroveHomestead I forgot to mention that the tiller I got didn’t come with a shaft, that’s why I was wondering if it needed one with a slip clutch. I’m still new to the whole PTO tractor stuff. Great vid. Thanks for the response. 👍🏼
@@ArturoGarzaID The slip clutch just allows something to give without stalling the tractor or breaking the tiller, like if a big rock or tree root got caught in the tiller. TBH, the only time my clutch has slipped has been in really dry clay ground.
Okay interesting information, I noticed you have an extra leg on the tiller ? I’m assuming it is for storage ?
It is for storage. Here's another video on tilling: th-cam.com/video/yHqsKoZsBX4/w-d-xo.html
?what's the wait time after round-up application?
2 weeks is a good burn down time
Thanks!
very nice. thankyou
Thanks for watching and commenting.
After watching a bunch of videos there seems to be a difference between a tiller and a rototiller.
Why do people think those two terms are interchangeable when they're talking about something totally different.
When some people talk about a tiller they're talking about something more like a disc that does not have a drive shaft.
I love running a tractor mounted rototiller and did it for many years in our family business growing up.
We also had a tandem disc because some customers requested discing.
The rototiller always did a much nicer job in a lot less time. What the rototiller did in one pass the disc took many passes.
Lots of other factors tractor weight also determine size equipment you can run i love Kubota tractor but number 1 problem Kubota is there lighter than most on market so keep that on mind definitely makes a difference on hills piece of equipment can flip tractor Kubota is the worst light high center of gravity 😊
Thanks for sharing. We have a little more weight in the tires now! th-cam.com/video/uQmuNvcNsOU/w-d-xo.html
Nice video!!!!
Thank you.....we love the way a tiller works the soil.
What hydraulic oil is compatible with my hst 5100 Kubota
I use Super UDT 2 from the Kubota dealer. There may be other compatible fluids, but I only use Kubota. I change that out in this video: th-cam.com/video/QwnB-MaMWaY/w-d-xo.html
Just a FYI that tiller will till deeper. The further you lean it farward using the top link the deeper it will till.
Thanks for the tip!
On that depth adjustment it looks like there is room to drill more holes so it will till deeper.
Our Howard tiller would till about 8-9 inches deep on the first pass, even deeper on the second pass.
On another issue I have heard all my life that plowing causes hard pan and rototilling loosens it up.
After doing some quick research there are several types of hardpan and a variety of causes for hard pan and a variety of ways to deal with it.
I read several articles and they seem to agree on very little.
Hardpan can be anything from compacted soil that water or roots cannot penetrate all the way to being sandstone.
It can be anywhere from a few inches deep to several feet deep.
It can be dealt with by mechanical means or by adding amendments to the soil and letting nature take its course.
I get the feeling that tractor dealers are the ones that promote one type or another of farming equipment using hard-pan as a catchphrase to help sales.
Our tractor probably can't handle 8" tilling in dry clay!
@@PineyGroveHomestead true, you do have to rototill when the ground is crumbly and not too wet or too dry.
My dad did the shovel test on jobs.
And a soil engineer taught me how to do the finger test on another job.
@@PineyGroveHomestead don't tear your machine up on ground thy is too dry or too hard.
Usually rototill a few days to a couple of weeks after a heavy rain.
You can just remove those skids from the bottom completely if you wanna dig down faster, they arent necessary, you just dont wanna remove them if you are digging rocky soil, a rock could hit the gear box and damage it potentially.
What is a coda packer that tows behind your tiller.
We explain it in this video: th-cam.com/video/j0C4CgPTYpk/w-d-xo.html
Daikon radish roots go deep and breakup the soil and add organic matter when used as a cover crop.
Good point!
I use a Ford 3000 diesel tractor and a 6 foot usa tiller it does a good job
If you have a quick hitch or even the Pat's quick hitch, then clearance may not be an issue for you. Most of my implements are old with the pins to the outside and welded so they won't come loose!
Great vid, do you have tons of red clay? My property down the road is like growing grass on a baseball field. Any ideas or suggestions?
I always plow before I till. Less stress on everything.
It does break the ground up.
Would love to met and visit with this fellow.
thanks for watching
Depends on if its s gear or hydro determines pto h.p go to tractor fata it will tell you pto h.p
I have a kubota 2650 tractor thats only 25 hp but i can verify it eats with a 5' king cutter no problem
How long would it take to do 13 acres
Straight guess, but maybe 1 hour per acre?
Need a labyrinth cone from tiller shaft over lapping bearing support cone
To keep the grass out?
That's level. !no rocks!
Love it.
Bush hogs to determine the size 1 ft equals 6 pto h.p so 5 ft bushhog 30 pto h.p. when you go to 6 ft it changes need min 40 pto h.p 7 ft need 50 hp.
8 foot bush hog 3 gear boxes uses less power i have ran 8 ft bush ogs 40 h.p tractor no problem
This hydro 38hp tractor can't handle more than 5'
Problem with land pride usally have to go to dealership for parts ouch kk you can buy online reasonable
Reverse rotation is waaaay better .
I talk about that in this video: th-cam.com/video/yHqsKoZsBX4/w-d-xo.html
King kutter tillers are great land pride is junk i know I sold both kk number one in my book
Bad idea never tighten your slip clutch that tight if it slipping already like you said over working tiller eventually destroy your upper gear box. I have seen this happen over and over I have kk used it for 20 years now issues I don't abuse it not commercial grade most are not need to use as residential not commercial if so go buy commercial grade tiller
Titan kills the others .
Titan is hard to get parts for. King Kutter parts are readily available.
@@PineyGroveHomestead old ones maybe but not now especially since Iron Craft owns them ! The toughest Tillers Ive seen !
I plow 1st.
Here is some plowing footage: th-cam.com/video/sMpNlu8yt1Q/w-d-xo.html
You're wrong about several things but you probably don't want to hear about that.
What are they
GM must start build standard engines again and stop adding gadgets to drop out cylinders etc. Lost this lifetime customer.
Kioti?
We have coyotes on Piney Grove, but they are not tractors!! Kubota strong! Tractor Hard!
Thanks!
Thank you so much! Here's a playlist with some similar videos we've made: th-cam.com/play/PLG5yS75HLzo3B_kuSLkG7zUbMJ22vw4GS.html
Thanks!
Thank you so much. That's very kind.