@@axelfoley1768 I was just thinking aloud, I’ve followed Mike Patrick for a while now as he’s a gospel guy and has done sessions for Nord as well as Yamaha and now he works for Yamaha. I wasn’t really talking only about this particular video clip, I was simply celebrating his success. Relax bro, it ain’t that deep 🤷🏾♂️
These guys are the best. Conversational, interactive introduction to an AMAZING instrument. Absolutely love Tony & Mike. I wasn’t a fan of the original Montage & MODX but with the Montage M, and the workflow of their new CK series, Yamaha has gotten my attention majorly. Montage M8X will be added to my arsenal and may become my main instrument, especially since there will be a full VST3i version of it as well. Well done, Yamaha. You have my won my keyboard/synth respect and will get my purchase in the near future. ❤😊🎉
Tony really is an amazing musician. He's probably my favorite musician to just listen to. I'll watch his reviews on keyboards I have zero interest in, just to hear him play. I love Mike as well. All of these guys are world-class.
Yamaha is listening to their consumers. Cuz this is beautiful and they added more knobs and buttons! I like how u can choose whether you wanna use touch screen or buttons or knobs! So much functionality! I love it
One nice addition is that all of the organ sounds now let you use the faders as drawbars for live changes. Unfortunately, they decided to inclde only 8 faders instead of 9, but it still helps a lot to make up for the lack of a dedicated organ engine.
Does this have a sequencer at all or is it expected we will plug it into a DAW and record from there? I like the fact that the entire Montage M will be a soft synth for your DAW next year... that might be enough to push me over and get it.
Looking forward to this Montage M8X! Greetings from Canada but I’m near Eastbourne! I plan on dropping by to meet you Tony and crew! My daughter in law purchased an FP90 from you!
Vaaaaaaaooooooooo YAMAHA MONTAGE M Series Very Very Very Excellent High quality All Sound And Material 👍👍👍 Very Very Nice 😘😘😘 YAMAHA MONTAGE MY Love ❤❤❤
I missed hearing the FM mode for the E-Piano sounds and how they can be altered to taste. I am bouncing between this M7, M8X, or Nord 6P. There are so many great keyboards out there now. I'm still using the JV 1000 and JV 90 with an XV 3080, which I basically use the XV 3080. It was a great video. Mike has incredible knowledge.
For those of us who traded up to the Montage M from the MODX, and noticed that the Cinematic Flutes as played in this video does not reflect the Aftertouch settings "out of the box" as implied in this video (around the 13:10 mark) and scoured the internet for manuals and videos on how to program the Aftertouch settings to mimic what's shown in this video without any success, what's Yamaha's response?
MODX 61 is no comparison, I had one and shipped it right back where it came from because of the cheap casio/ toyish keybed, got the Montage 61 night and day.
Just incredible. I am more of a Genos type of a guy, but this instrument is incredible. I wish that some of the acoustic pianos would make it to the new Genos. Yamaha, if you are reading, please include those amazing piano sounds in your next top-of-range arranger! I can hardly wait to hear what music this instrument will make in experienced hands in the years to come.
@@calebrabion 100%!! I was just watching a random video on TH-cam and saw this white keyboard on display. I had to drop the question in chat to ask what it was and was told it was the Montage. I just had to get one. It's probably the most gorgeous synth on the market right now. I would be mortified if I bought the new Montage M, then they later released it in White. So I will wait patiently. 🙂
On the Yamaha Genos 2, the Super Articulation (e.g. Guitars and woodwind, brass instruments) comes on AUTOMATICALLY when play soft/hard, play a note 3 seconds after playing a previous one, puts in legato automatically when you go from a lower to higher octave etc. All these can be accomplished on the Montage M but manually (with buttons, pedals. knobs etc). Since I want to FOCUS on playing on stage and not pushing buttons, HOW (in the MONTAGE M) do I get the articulation to be triggered like the GENOS 2 - Automatically or using velocity, aftertouch, time, notes etc and so play and not have to press any Art1/2 buttons or ribbons or ...etc.
They all have the same sound engine and thus the same parameters so should respond to PAT over MIDI one would think. It doesn't make sense they wouldn't.
Great presentation, kudos to both of you!. What I can't understand is how they seem to keep the resistive touch panel, which is really painful to use at any good speed / precission. I own two Montage 6, bought used. On the first one, a 3 years old unit I got back in 2019, I thought there was a problem with the panel. Then I got a months old, virtually unused, Montage 6 White. And it behaved a tiny better, but nothing comparable with a good capacitive touch display. And then, when I bought a NEW MODX+ 6 a year ago, definitely found that, even new, those touch panels are not great. I am not 100% sure, but it seems to me they have kept the same technology on the M series. Could someone verify it is indeed a resistive touch panel?
Good question. Yamaha doesn't seem to say. Nevertheless, it sounds like 3 sensors, or at least going by this statement: "The GEX action provides enhanced key repetition behaviour that is typically found on grand pianos". This makes it sound like the GEX might stand for Grand Expression (the GE bit) with Escapement (the X bit). More generally, all digital piano actions which simulate the grand piano double escapement mechanism tend to also have three sensors, including Yamaha's GH3, NWX, GTS, and GT.
Which nord? I wish a nord instead of this one. I have the old Montage, but it is still good. This one just got a couple new features, but no so many. I wonder if is worthy to upgrade. Just for those couple new features. Sound it always depends on the player and the system you connect this Piano to
@@jesusjacome838 I have the Nord Stage 3 (88keys) which I have gigged to death along with my Prophet 6 and the Strymon Big Sky. Love the layout, love the piano-sounds, the B3 sound and the portability. But the synth section is very limited (same story with the Nord Stage 4). There is only one layer of sampling. And let be honest, some of the sounds (like the wurlitzer, clavs and DX sounds) are extremely outdated. I play mainly at concerts and pretty big gigs, and are used to pretty high-end PA systems, so I don’t think the sound system is the problem here mate….
@@bonnersmusic Please correct it!. It says: Weight: Motage M8x Weight: 28.1 kg Motage M8x Weight:17.6 kg Motage M8x Weight:15.3 kg So, there are errors in name and in models 😅
the key action is the best part of this board if you ask me. I have been playing it here and there and it feels great. Like he said, it’s light and feels fluid and expressive. have played Kawai (VPC and mp11se) and Nord, but this thing plays better in my opinion.
Congratulations! This workstation is so sensibly designed super user friendly and easy to use. Best part is it has lots of controller and that can be super useful for live and production work. Some people prefer to use touch screen and some prefer buttons it has both. Montage is already established and this one is perfect upgradable keyboard with minimal price increases and bunch of new sounds and unmatched control facilities. Love the ANX synth it sounds so fantastic. Overall it’s much better product then existing Montage and currently no other workstation can match to new Montage M series. Only thing I felt little bad that no polyphonic after touch on the 6/7 so surprised because now days musicians prefer portable products so obviously more selling keyboards are 6 & 7. I have a one question see if you know and you can answer me. My question is can II used Montage’s user sounds on this? Because this keyboard is way ahead than Montage so there must be so many changes in parameters and there are so many Montage users in the market and they can asked this questions. Nice demo…Love the keyboard. All the best to Yamaha and all the dealers for better business. Thank you 🙏 ❤
Tony , if it was your hard earned cash , knowing what you know now , would you put it on the Montage , Fantom , Nord or something completely different knowing the capability of the Montage ?
Do yourself a favor. If you are looking for new monitors spend as much as you can. I got the ADAM A77H cost about $2800 for the pair... worth every penny!
They are using the lineouts directly. Mic'ing speakers is absolutely retarded for a commercial demo, no one does that except fools. Minimum Yamaha HS7 speakers if you grab a Montage M.
Is Genos better than this one? I see Montage M8X just added articulation effects when you touch the keys. Something Genos already has. So in that sense, Genos is more advanced. Are there any more things where Genos is ahead compared to M8X? Don’t tell me they are different. I know they are different.
@@ablesam I have Montage 88, the original. Before I bought it I was debating whether I should get the Montage or Genos. I went with the Montage. I think I made a mistake because I it’s so complicated to use , not to mention that I can barely play piano. At least with Genos, you get a lot of accompaniment that sounds good and you’ll play along with it. I can do that with Montage, but it’s more complicated and most likely not as good in terms of having it all done automatically by the synth. You have to tweak it more.
@@Marian1st. If you're primary focus is the accompaniment, go with the Genos, it will give you what you need in that regard. Genos also has great sounds, but the MONTAGE is a dedicated synthesizer, so variety and quality will be abundant there. I'd suggest you also to wait and see for the next iteration of Genos, Marian. Yamaha may have a few exciting new additions to the board. Regarding your original post, the Montage also has articulations. That doesn't make it better than the Genos. What makes it better is the way of implementation Yamaha has on the Genos. MONTAGE M has just improved upon this by adding more element layers to the AWM2 engine (8 on the Montage, MODX and Genos vs 128 on the MONTAGE M) and adding polyphonic after-touch allowing single notes within acoustic instruments to have variations of playing styles (this was not possible before with channel/mono-phonic after-touch). The differences between the Genos and Montage M is way more than I can type into the post. But I'll summarize by saying the MONTAGE M is more capable than the original MONTAGE or the Genos. Everything that MONTAGE ever was has been upgraded in sound reproduction/quality, ease of use, workflow, playability, expressivity and synthesis capabilities. I'd highly recommend that you go to a store and try the new MONTAGE M for yourself in your free time. If it appeals to you, go for it, ask questions to people who can answer them directly aimed at your needs (since I don't know what they are and am a stranger on the internet) and see if what they are talking about are on the MONTAGE M and if you can easily access and use it. Good Day.
Montage is still the king of the keyboards, for stage or studio. The sounds on this new iteration are unbelievably good. I will have to be happy with my first gen MODX8. This is well out of my price range.
I still don't understand why there is no mono legato with portamento in the new montage that gives you a nice gliding sound like with Kronos or Fantom and then a mid-range instrument from Yamaha has the good mono legato function
I was hoping to see this @ NAMM but I'm sure still if the Making at the time. I ended up buying the ROLAND Fantom just to have those Tones but YAMAHA has that Sound which we all love ( I own the YAMAHA CP4 Stage Piano ...so very little tweaking ...I bought it back in the day for the CFX when it came out. and I'm sure the Samples are that much better today. Thx for making this Video Guys. George :)
People always equate 4GB of Memory with regular computer Ram. The type of memory required to be immediately accessible in a high end keyboard is considerably more expensive than garden variety Ram.
The 4x4 buttons to select presets/categories, should have been Pads… it would have been so much more useful. Also, it’s a shame 61 and 76 keys don’t have polyphonic AfterTouch. And overall, it’s a shame there’s still not large SSD with direct from disk feature. At this kind of price point, you’re definitely need something to compete to someone using a nice controller such NI S-Series or Akai MPC-Keys with a MacMini or MiniPC and a load of plugins that overall will sound better than any of those embedded sounds from Yamaha. Just NI Komplete alone will provide way more than you can get here, both quantity wise and quality wise. I’m not against hardware, I just don’t understand why it’s still so limited to these days where mini computers and tablettes can have so much more Power, RAM and Storage, allowing to have more samples, more sound engines and more polyphony. Yamaha did a good step in the right direction, with the controls, v-pots, drawbars, second screen, touchscreen, etc… but they’re still missing pads and more powerful system to allow DfD features such Kontakt to be able to have huge high-quality sound banks, not just for pianos, but for every sound.
@@Javkillers Komplete potentially can, not sure how complete it is on bread and butter sounds with Kontakt. Kontakt is killer, but some of the Factory Library sounds are mediocre, so extra Kontakt Sample Libraries from Native Instruments or other companies that make libraries for Kontakt might be necessary (which means spending extra money after buying Komplete).
There's a technical reason, but basically, the read/write speeds of the chips used on these keyboards (Yamaha, Roland, Nord and Kurzweil) are basically instant, compared to an SSD. This keeps the overhead very low and gives you instant access to sounds.
Evolutionary, not revolutionary, and starting to hide physical features behind paywalls. Lack of PolyAT on the 6 and 7 is ridiculous. Definitely not a whole new keyboard like they want you to think.
Mike Patrick is my dude! Humble, talented he makes any bit of kit sound like a million dollars! This new keyboard is a beast 😳🤩👏🏾🔥
@@axelfoley1768 I was just thinking aloud, I’ve followed Mike Patrick for a while now as he’s a gospel guy and has done sessions for Nord as well as Yamaha and now he works for Yamaha. I wasn’t really talking only about this particular video clip, I was simply celebrating his success. Relax bro, it ain’t that deep 🤷🏾♂️
In my opinion, Toni is the world's best demonstrator for keyboards and synthesizers. It is always an experience. Thanks also for this great video.
These guys are the best. Conversational, interactive introduction to an AMAZING instrument. Absolutely love Tony & Mike.
I wasn’t a fan of the original Montage & MODX but with the Montage M, and the workflow of their new CK series, Yamaha has gotten my attention majorly.
Montage M8X will be added to my arsenal and may become my main instrument, especially since there will be a full VST3i version of it as well.
Well done, Yamaha. You have my won my keyboard/synth respect and will get my purchase in the near future. ❤😊🎉
I look forward to the VSTi
Tony really is an amazing musician. He's probably my favorite musician to just listen to. I'll watch his reviews on keyboards I have zero interest in, just to hear him play. I love Mike as well. All of these guys are world-class.
Wow...those yamaha engineers...what an incredible product.
I could tell Mike appreciated your playing Tony ❤ it was super gracious of Mike to defer to Tony.
Yamaha is listening to their consumers. Cuz this is beautiful and they added more knobs and buttons! I like how u can choose whether you wanna use touch screen or buttons or knobs! So much functionality! I love it
Just when I think I have my GAS under control along comes the Montage8x
😂 Same feeling
Yup. Shit, there‘s always something 😢
Stunning Felt Piano
That was so amazing! Awesome review. The keyboard is a beast!
Looks like I'm going to have to save up.... lovely tones...
I just couldnt stop staring at the super knob acting as a leslie rotor😊
Feels like a warp speed control knob that'll take us 2 the next level 😊
Mike Patrick rules! I live his playing. 👍❤️
Just Stunning board !! Very nice demo by Mike P and playing from both Gentlemen!
One nice addition is that all of the organ sounds now let you use the faders as drawbars for live changes. Unfortunately, they decided to inclde only 8 faders instead of 9, but it still helps a lot to make up for the lack of a dedicated organ engine.
when using theorgan presets, the knob above the last fader allows you to bring in the9th drawbar. So you can control all 9.
I can't drop my jaw. This is unbelievable !
Enjoyed both their reactions 😊. This new montage is amazing 🤩
What a plaisir to listen 2 talents like you😊, ty ty
Killer machine...I mean this is advanced and sounds incredible. That's some fantastic playing too.
Does this have a sequencer at all or is it expected we will plug it into a DAW and record from there? I like the fact that the entire Montage M will be a soft synth for your DAW next year... that might be enough to push me over and get it.
Sounds so so good. 👌
Looking forward to this Montage M8X! Greetings from Canada but I’m near Eastbourne! I plan on dropping by to meet you Tony and crew! My daughter in law purchased an FP90 from you!
Vaaaaaaaooooooooo
YAMAHA MONTAGE M Series
Very Very Very Excellent High quality All Sound And Material 👍👍👍
Very Very Nice 😘😘😘
YAMAHA MONTAGE MY Love ❤❤❤
I’ll be listening!
Absolutely amazing. If only it has the nylon guitar string that the Genos 2 has, I'll be completely sold on it 👏
Great great video showing what a beast this is... love watching you guys and Mike when he was on Anderton's as well...
I missed hearing the FM mode for the E-Piano sounds and how they can be altered to taste. I am bouncing between this M7, M8X, or Nord 6P. There are so many great keyboards out there now. I'm still using the JV 1000 and JV 90 with an XV 3080, which I basically use the XV 3080. It was a great video. Mike has incredible knowledge.
Wow, this video was packed full of great information! 😊 Thank you for such an in-depth first look at this new keyboard! 👍🏽👍🏽
For those of us who traded up to the Montage M from the MODX, and noticed that the Cinematic Flutes as played in this video does not reflect the Aftertouch settings "out of the box" as implied in this video (around the 13:10 mark) and scoured the internet for manuals and videos on how to program the Aftertouch settings to mimic what's shown in this video without any success, what's Yamaha's response?
MODX 61 is no comparison, I had one and shipped it right back where it came from because of the cheap casio/ toyish keybed, got the Montage 61 night and day.
Just incredible. I am more of a Genos type of a guy, but this instrument is incredible. I wish that some of the acoustic pianos would make it to the new Genos. Yamaha, if you are reading, please include those amazing piano sounds in your next top-of-range arranger!
I can hardly wait to hear what music this instrument will make in experienced hands in the years to come.
only 4GB user sample memory ? In what year are we living ?
what’s wrong with that?
That seems like a lot to me. Which keyboards have more? I truly don’t know. My Fantom has 2 gb and I never have to think about it.
It's a keyboard not a phone lol
@@DNYLNYKronos is able to stream about 20GB of sample memory from SSD to 2GB of RAM
I NEED A KEYBOARD I CAN TAYLOR ON MY DAW AND LOAD MY SOUNDS. WITH 4 GB IS NOT ENOUGH
Love the KORG Ms2000 in the background 😂
I bought my White Montage 7 from these guys in Sep '21. I'll be back! Will this be released in White also? That's what I'm hoping/holding out for.
Same here. The white just hits so hard.
@@calebrabion 100%!! I was just watching a random video on TH-cam and saw this white keyboard on display. I had to drop the question in chat to ask what it was and was told it was the Montage. I just had to get one. It's probably the most gorgeous synth on the market right now. I would be mortified if I bought the new Montage M, then they later released it in White. So I will wait patiently. 🙂
@@unitedman7443 yeah. Im gonna wait as well.
On the Yamaha Genos 2, the Super Articulation (e.g. Guitars and woodwind, brass instruments) comes on AUTOMATICALLY when play soft/hard, play a note 3 seconds after playing a previous one, puts in legato automatically when you go from a lower to higher octave etc. All these can be accomplished on the Montage M but manually (with buttons, pedals. knobs etc). Since I want to FOCUS on playing on stage and not pushing buttons, HOW (in the MONTAGE M) do I get the articulation to be triggered like the GENOS 2 - Automatically or using velocity, aftertouch, time, notes etc and so play and not have to press any Art1/2 buttons or ribbons or ...etc.
Thank you for helping me make my mind up,it was between the Roland fantom vs. the yamaha M8x.
..THE M8x soon it WILL BE MINE OH YEAH 😂
Congrats Michael Patrick awesome musician talent and spirit ...... @Bonners Pianos & keyboards : is there still a looping point on the piano samples ?
If I use a polyphonic aftertouch keybed from another controller (NI S88 MKIII, for example), can I utilize the aftertouch with an M61 or M76?
They all have the same sound engine and thus the same parameters so should respond to PAT over MIDI one would think. It doesn't make sense they wouldn't.
I agree, wholeheartedly. But, I 've learned enough to not always assume when it comes to these big tech companies and their overhead.@@MFitz12
Watching all these new videos about this Montage M makes me want to sell my Modx8 back to the music store and purchase this. I’m astonish 😵💫🤯
You and everybody else buddy!
Does it have a sequencer. The old montage needed this.
Awesome
Are the keys on the montage m8x plastic or wood?
You have the best demos!!
very nice board!
7:32 the old montage has that same function that is not new
I was about to comment the same thing 👍
Happy to hear the keybed is lighter. Def plus for my playing style... best of both worlds in a way
How is the sound of the GEX keybed? Sometimes it can be really "bonky" when you play on it.
The only thing did you all put staple es and Xs sounds in m8. That’s really one of the things I’ve been waiting for you all to do
Which is more enjoyable to play, Nord Stage 4 or Montage M8X?
It's still made to a price-point and to avoid being a Genos. Where does this fit in the line between MODX and the Genos?
The pianos sound amazing!! Nord is probably sweating after this one 🤣
Great presentation, kudos to both of you!. What I can't understand is how they seem to keep the resistive touch panel, which is really painful to use at any good speed / precission. I own two Montage 6, bought used. On the first one, a 3 years old unit I got back in 2019, I thought there was a problem with the panel. Then I got a months old, virtually unused, Montage 6 White. And it behaved a tiny better, but nothing comparable with a good capacitive touch display. And then, when I bought a NEW MODX+ 6 a year ago, definitely found that, even new, those touch panels are not great. I am not 100% sure, but it seems to me they have kept the same technology on the M series. Could someone verify it is indeed a resistive touch panel?
Left out aftertouch on the 6/7 so these are not flagship. Only the 88 key.
I'm unsure whose reaction I enjoyed more, Tony's, Mike's or mine... The sound touches the depths before it stirs the surface.
Hello friends, please tell me if the keys of the Yamaha Montage 8 model have 3 sensors or 2?
Good question. Yamaha doesn't seem to say. Nevertheless, it sounds like 3 sensors, or at least going by this statement: "The GEX action provides enhanced key repetition behaviour that is typically found on grand pianos". This makes it sound like the GEX might stand for Grand Expression (the GE bit) with Escapement (the X bit). More generally, all digital piano actions which simulate the grand piano double escapement mechanism tend to also have three sensors, including Yamaha's GH3, NWX, GTS, and GT.
My gosh, that piano sound ❤️🥰 this will replace my Nord.
Which nord? I wish a nord instead of this one. I have the old Montage, but it is still good. This one just got a couple new features, but no so many. I wonder if is worthy to upgrade. Just for those couple new features.
Sound it always depends on the player and the system you connect this Piano to
Workstations don't kill Nords, ignoring Kronos2.
@@Jason75913 Montage is not a workstation
@@jesusjacome838 I have the Nord Stage 3 (88keys) which I have gigged to death along with my Prophet 6 and the Strymon Big Sky. Love the layout, love the piano-sounds, the B3 sound and the portability. But the synth section is very limited (same story with the Nord Stage 4). There is only one layer of sampling. And let be honest, some of the sounds (like the wurlitzer, clavs and DX sounds) are extremely outdated. I play mainly at concerts and pretty big gigs, and are used to pretty high-end PA systems, so I don’t think the sound system is the problem here mate….
@@theclaverman that's not what everyone else says or thinks
What are the weight specs for each model.
All the weights and dimensions are at this link
www.bonnersmusic.co.uk/products/yamaha-montage-m8x-keyboard
@@bonnersmusic Please correct it!. It says:
Weight:
Motage M8x Weight: 28.1 kg
Motage M8x Weight:17.6 kg
Motage M8x Weight:15.3 kg
So, there are errors in name and in models 😅
the key action is the best part of this board if you ask me. I have been playing it here and there and it feels great. Like he said, it’s light and feels fluid and expressive. have played Kawai (VPC and mp11se) and Nord, but this thing plays better in my opinion.
I need to see a comparing video based on the old vs the new Montage
Why? you can just watch old videos of the Montage and new Montage
@@Echochamber79He wants a comparison bc they're basically identical 😆
Besides whatever Jesus want's, Jesus get's 😮😅😊@amackclassic6737
@@Echochamber79 🤦 🙄 😒
Does Montage M have all Motif XS/XF scenes sounds and patterns? Also does it have 16 pattern sequencer like RM1x?
What are your thoughts on this vs a K2700 for onboard song creation? Fantom? Nautilus? I dont have dealers near me to try.
hello! whats the boot time? thanks!
Very cool !!!😀
Congratulations! This workstation is so sensibly designed super user friendly and easy to use. Best part is it has lots of controller and that can be super useful for live and production work. Some people prefer to use touch screen and some prefer buttons it has both. Montage is already established and this one is perfect upgradable keyboard with minimal price increases and bunch of new sounds and unmatched control facilities. Love the ANX synth it sounds so fantastic. Overall it’s much better product then existing Montage and currently no other workstation can match to new Montage M series. Only thing I felt little bad that no polyphonic after touch on the 6/7 so surprised because now days musicians prefer portable products so obviously more selling keyboards are 6 & 7. I have a one question see if you know and you can answer me. My question is can II used Montage’s user sounds on this? Because this keyboard is way ahead than Montage so there must be so many changes in parameters and there are so many Montage users in the market and they can asked this questions. Nice demo…Love the keyboard. All the best to Yamaha and all the dealers for better business. Thank you 🙏 ❤
Very cool
What a beast… need a PhD to operate it to its fullest for sure.
I suspect Korg is making a true successor to the Kronos 2. Until then I'll stay put.
It could be. I would get this if the 61 keys version had Poly aftertouch. I am waiting just in case, still this Montage M sounds great.
Mike is a Montage "artist" until he did a video with the Nord Stage 4, can it be he's both? They're both good.
Sure! Why not?
Both is ideal
Tony , if it was your hard earned cash , knowing what you know now , would you put it on the Montage , Fantom , Nord or something completely different knowing the capability of the Montage ?
Amazing ❤
No XLR outputs?
Is the body made of metal or hard plastic.
Will there be a Motif-XF-like sequencer in this bad boy? And will there be MUSICAL STYLES like the *Motif XF* did?
You rule, Tony
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Which studio monitors are you using here for this demo?
Do yourself a favor. If you are looking for new monitors spend as much as you can. I got the ADAM A77H cost about $2800 for the pair... worth every penny!
They are using the lineouts directly. Mic'ing speakers is absolutely retarded for a commercial demo, no one does that except fools.
Minimum Yamaha HS7 speakers if you grab a Montage M.
Is anyone else noticing the newer Korg and Yamaha keyboards are resembling the Roland Fantom?
Is Genos better than this one? I see Montage M8X just added articulation effects when you touch the keys. Something Genos already has. So in that sense, Genos is more advanced. Are there any more things where Genos is ahead compared to M8X?
Don’t tell me they are different. I know they are different.
I guess you just have to wait for the Genos 2.
@@ablesam I have Montage 88, the original. Before I bought it I was debating whether I should get the Montage or Genos. I went with the Montage.
I think I made a mistake because I it’s so complicated to use , not to mention that I can barely play piano.
At least with Genos, you get a lot of accompaniment that sounds good and you’ll play along with it.
I can do that with Montage, but it’s more complicated and most likely not as good in terms of having it all done automatically by the synth. You have to tweak it more.
@@Marian1st. If you're primary focus is the accompaniment, go with the Genos, it will give you what you need in that regard. Genos also has great sounds, but the MONTAGE is a dedicated synthesizer, so variety and quality will be abundant there. I'd suggest you also to wait and see for the next iteration of Genos, Marian. Yamaha may have a few exciting new additions to the board.
Regarding your original post, the Montage also has articulations. That doesn't make it better than the Genos. What makes it better is the way of implementation Yamaha has on the Genos. MONTAGE M has just improved upon this by adding more element layers to the AWM2 engine (8 on the Montage, MODX and Genos vs 128 on the MONTAGE M) and adding polyphonic after-touch allowing single notes within acoustic instruments to have variations of playing styles (this was not possible before with channel/mono-phonic after-touch).
The differences between the Genos and Montage M is way more than I can type into the post. But I'll summarize by saying the MONTAGE M is more capable than the original MONTAGE or the Genos. Everything that MONTAGE ever was has been upgraded in sound reproduction/quality, ease of use, workflow, playability, expressivity and synthesis capabilities.
I'd highly recommend that you go to a store and try the new MONTAGE M for yourself in your free time. If it appeals to you, go for it, ask questions to people who can answer them directly aimed at your needs (since I don't know what they are and am a stranger on the internet) and see if what they are talking about are on the MONTAGE M and if you can easily access and use it.
Good Day.
🗣A MONSTER!!!!!!!
Could you tell me the type of piano action
He said in the video that its lighter?
@@holygeneration7 thanks .. I'm talking which of these ?
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Montage is still the king of the keyboards, for stage or studio. The sounds on this new iteration are unbelievably good.
I will have to be happy with my first gen MODX8. This is well out of my price range.
I'll be the first to ask...is there a decent MONO piano?!
I still don't understand why there is no mono legato with portamento in the new montage that gives you a nice gliding sound like with Kronos or Fantom and then a mid-range instrument from Yamaha has the good mono legato function
I was hoping to see this @ NAMM but I'm sure still if the Making at the time. I ended up buying the ROLAND Fantom just to have those Tones but YAMAHA has that Sound which we all love ( I own the YAMAHA CP4 Stage Piano ...so very little tweaking ...I bought it back in the day for the CFX when it came out. and I'm sure the Samples are that much better today. Thx for making this Video Guys. George :)
Wow. Sounds excellent. Give us the x element now!
The only disadvantage, apart from the fact that I can't afford it, seems to be the police beacon on top :)
I believe they said you can turn it off. It is kind of a superknob, so maybe it is configurable, don't know.
Yeah you can!... people say that about the superknob to try and talk themselves out of wanting one lol
MotifXS & XF had Expanded Articulation.
Yep, I'll settle with my Motif XS61 !
People always equate 4GB of Memory with regular computer Ram. The type of memory required to be immediately accessible in a high end keyboard is considerably more expensive than garden variety Ram.
Cfx piano sound improve,better than previous..👍
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Best workstation nowadays. Over over Roland and Korg at this moment.
so eins wirde ich mir gern kaufen aber ich finde kein musikhadler der so was hat.ist schade.
Please conscious. Don’t make me choose! Montage Vs AKIA 61 key 🔑. That’s super knob got me Mezmerize.
Mike!!!
The 4x4 buttons to select presets/categories, should have been Pads… it would have been so much more useful. Also, it’s a shame 61 and 76 keys don’t have polyphonic AfterTouch. And overall, it’s a shame there’s still not large SSD with direct from disk feature. At this kind of price point, you’re definitely need something to compete to someone using a nice controller such NI S-Series or Akai MPC-Keys with a MacMini or MiniPC and a load of plugins that overall will sound better than any of those embedded sounds from Yamaha. Just NI Komplete alone will provide way more than you can get here, both quantity wise and quality wise. I’m not against hardware, I just don’t understand why it’s still so limited to these days where mini computers and tablettes can have so much more Power, RAM and Storage, allowing to have more samples, more sound engines and more polyphony. Yamaha did a good step in the right direction, with the controls, v-pots, drawbars, second screen, touchscreen, etc… but they’re still missing pads and more powerful system to allow DfD features such Kontakt to be able to have huge high-quality sound banks, not just for pianos, but for every sound.
So what do you think is a better synthesizer?
I am looking for basically a vst rompler with nice acoustic and digital sounds, do you think NI Komplete can do that?
@@Javkillers Komplete potentially can, not sure how complete it is on bread and butter sounds with Kontakt. Kontakt is killer, but some of the Factory Library sounds are mediocre, so extra Kontakt Sample Libraries from Native Instruments or other companies that make libraries for Kontakt might be necessary (which means spending extra money after buying Komplete).
There's a technical reason, but basically, the read/write speeds of the chips used on these keyboards (Yamaha, Roland, Nord and Kurzweil) are basically instant, compared to an SSD. This keeps the overhead very low and gives you instant access to sounds.
41:40 Uaaah!
I like Yamaha Keyboards, but they are 0% portable they are too wide, weight, etc! Yamaha needs to work on that!
More of the same?
Evolutionary, not revolutionary, and starting to hide physical features behind paywalls. Lack of PolyAT on the 6 and 7 is ridiculous. Definitely not a whole new keyboard like they want you to think.
Not to spoil the party but buying this “ thing” will set you back serious coin !
38:50 MIDI: "you can send and receive 16 stereo channels..." STEREO? MIDI?!? 🥴
But maybe just a slip of the tongue. Otherwise very good, inspiring video and competent presentation. Thank you.
I've just clicked 4 times on time bar for this video and only saw two people talking each other in front of a synth. No sound of the synth!! WTF
The wife is gonna shoot me!