Thanks for sharing👍👍👍. Towed the dump trailer with the 02 f350, the 96 3500 5speed and the 2018 Ram 2500 with the heaviest load by far, towed the best in every way and will be my go to tow rig. When I hooked up, plugged in and headed down the hill, it automatically knew to go into tow mode and turned on the exhaust brake...simply amazing.
There definitely aren't enough vids of people actually showing these trucks being used, talking temps, and the truth. I've towed with some rolling disasters and sweat bullets the whole time. These newer (2015+ ish) trucks are beastly. Thanks Sam!
I'm glad that I'm not the only one that keeps such a close eye on temperatures when climbing mountain passes. My eco-boost will two as fast as I want it to going up steep hills but twice it has gotten warmer than I was comfortable with. I've learned to keep it 60-65 mph which the engine is happy with.
My 96 3500 12 valve pulled Tehachapi form the west side with 20,000 lbs. truck and trailer. Averaged 13.5 mpg. from Bakersfield to Apple Valley. Best engine ever made as far as I'm concerned.
@Shane Gunter The "P pump" 12 valves are the greatest ever...except the one particular block casting that for some reason would crack and put the coolant all over the ground... and the "killer dowel pin" which is not too hard to fix
Traveling through Kentucky in my Chevy 3500, stopped in Louisville for a few days and dropped the fifth wheel. When over to to a neighboring town and drove past the weigh station. Officer pulled me over and told me I had to enter the station. Keep in mind, I had no trailer or cargo at all. Personal use on vacation. Only had my small step ladder in the back of the truck we use with the trailer. Gave me a ticket for passing the weigh station, no dot numbers, medical card, annual inspection, road triangles, or fire extinguisher. $560.00. Never asked me for my inspection, Triangles or extinguisher even though they were in the truck. Asked about it and he told me that I had to fight it. Told me because there was a step ladder in the back of the truck, it was commercial for hire. How is transporting my own ladder in the back of my truck on vacation for hire? Drove 3 days to fight the ticket in court and on arrival was informed the date has been changed for another 2 weeks out! Court refused to dismiss the charge, hired a lawyer to fight the tickets. Money grab by the state of Kentucky on out of state drivers!
LMAO or... How to waste 17 minutes of your life (watching a pick up truck sneak across commercial scale house "undetected" while not even over heating) ... Amazing content 😲
And if you had a 5.9 cummins ram2500, you could pull more with 3.42 gears and get far better fuel mileage. We have a 2004 that gets 22mpg empty, and 18mpg with a tandem-dual axle gooseneck with a John deere 4240 with water in the rear tires and a front end loader going 68 on the interstate. Not bad for a stock 220,000 mile automatic tranny 2500!
Yeah, same temps on my "low output" 6.7 2500... It's just how it's designed to run. They let the temps climb relatively high compared to other engines before kicking on a fan. Hasn't been problematic, just the way it is.
I have a similar setup and was getting mixed answers. I called Cordelia scale house and was told this: “if you have a pickup bed on your truck, do not enter my scales, at all” Good enough for me!
Well then that means my neighbor with a 75 Mack superliner 70 inch sleeper and an 8 foot pickup bed on her means he can sail bye. It's his retirement rig. Sold his house after his wife died three years before he retired. Absolutely loves it. When he pulls in a campground they try to tell him no until they note no fifth wheel. E-6 350 Mack engine that was out of frame rebuilt by Mack 7 months before he retired which means the warranty is good at any Mack dealer. 600 gallons of fuel capacity, auxiliary diesel generator water cooled piped into the main engine so she always starts no matter how cold out it gets. Cheers!
@@jamesshanks2614 He has a fine ride! I'd love to find a GMC General like in "Smokey and the Bandit II" and stretch the sleeper all the way to the end of the frame, with a Series 60 under the hood with an egr delete and rear air ride suspension with a diesel AC generator to make into a motorhome for my retirement days!
I have the same truck. Towing 44 ft triple axle tow hauler loaded with Harley's out across Kansas (approx 21,000 lbs ) in 105 heat mine was running 220 to 225 when pretty new I called Dodge on cell phone and they had a tech on the line tell me run it till it pukes pretty much. He said that the computer wont let you hurt the truck. It will down power itself before it will allow any issue to harm engine. No I don't care to run that hot either. My Aisin trans never got over 175 even on some big mountain passes. 410 gears also. I was fighting a strong head wind all day and the truck was under heavy load running 70. I slowed to 65 and down shifted to 5th gear to get the rpm's higher and the fan clutch would engage when I did this and cool me back down to about 195 before fan clutch disengaged again. Pulling mountain passes I have learned to keep the rpm's up and the fan will engage and keep temps down but you need 2500 rpm or so before clutch engages on fan. I think these need a lower setting on the the fan clutch personally. With all the computer stuff on these I wont disturb anything until beyond warranty period. So far I love this truck. I have hauled all over USA and up and down many big mountains. The exhaust brake is just fantastic. I set to full on then the only thing needed is to lift on the throttle, the more you lift the more exhaust brake comes in. Easy to meter it with your foot this way with out needing to touch brake pedal. I have towed my whole life, this current truck is by far the best hauler I have have ever had. Very quite inside, big plus from my 2001 24 vlv. I would prefer shift paddles on wheel instead of having to take hand off the wheel to select gear I want on shift lever. In the mountains I use the manual shift feature a lot. That's my worst complaint so far along with crappy mileage compared to my 2001. 35,000 miles so far most of that hauling heavy loads. This truck likes it.
Not for hire is not functioning within commercial commerce.if Dot tyrants pull you over and write you tickets.take it to court.also take a copy of the Constitution and the supreme Court decision way back in the 30's.the court ruled that a man has the right to transport his personnel property business property and household goods upon the roads and the land.i have done it several times and eventually they will catch on.you have no rights unless you clearly understand your Rights and demand these maritime commercial courts abide by your Rights.america has been possessed by the devil's of Hitler.people better wake up.read and study your Rights and be willing to fight for them.no one is going to do it for you, especially a lawyer.lawyers are foriegn agents and are just apart of the devil's freak show.
Right on. Didn’t think you’d have any trouble 👍 Mine runs a little warm to. I can’t wait to get a 2nd Gen my self to restore 😎 Get one with a 12v or if I can’t don’t one then a 24v 👌
03:55 "I wanted to hit these hills at 65/70...". You're in California, 3 axles or more, it's 55mph. Welcome to California! We live on the other side of that "hill" (aka, the Sierra Nevada). We pull a 31' travel trailer all over the U.S.. When we get back in California, 55mph seems so slow and unnecessary. Almost all of our RV travels take us up and over the Sierra, so we've been back and forth over it hundreds of times. My advice to those towing/RVing is to plan on pissing off some passenger vehicles. They're doing 75+, 18-wheelers are down to 55mph. With this mix of vehicles speeds, getting around a very slow semi-truck while towing/RVing requires you to take any tiny gap in the fast lane traffic you can get. If that gets some of those passenger vehicles upset - oh, well...
You can get away with 63mph in a 55 zone. Been all over CA towing trailers and have never received a ticket at 63. Never even been pulled over, and passed many cops.
Hahaha. I hate that checkpoint. They wave me through but one time kid asked me where I was coming from. Told him nothing and went on my way after he knew I wasn't telling him. What a way to get into my home state.
Yes sir, talk about driving! I've been a regional dedicated semi driver for about 3 years now, usually 350-550 miles a night! Only good thing about the gig I'm in is that I'm home daily. The distribution center I work out of is only 6 miles from home, so that's a plus, haha!
FYI: Speed limit for trailers in CA is is 55mph. Pickups don't need to enter the scales. Even with a goose neck. If you switch to a flat bed to have to enter.
@@juhthreef so your telling me that you would need to go through a scale if your driving say a new f350 with a fully loaded bed (obviously over 10k with it being a heavy load) and it was your personal truck and your personal belongings in the bed , I've even gone by weigh stations pulling a trailer and had a full bed and what was on the trailer was obviously not for personal use but there was no sticker with company name or number on the truck or trailer and the was no not for hire sticker, I've only ever seen or heard of people getting stopped for skipping weigh stations when their truck and trailer and the load was obviously more than 26k pounds, and some weigh stations are easy to get around as long as you aren't being followed when getting off an exit before and getting on an exit after but I just don't think it's worth even trying to skip a weigh station unless your well overweight and don't have the money to pay the fee for being overweight
@@smokeythehuman3596 weigh stations are more than just being overweight, you can get a full DOT level 1/2/3 inspection at them and thats usually where spot inspections happen which forces drivers out of service. Anything over 10k used commercially requires stops at all open stations unless they have a method of bypass(prepass) or otherwise noted. Over 10K requires a DOT number when used commercially & requires e-logs unless exempt.
Here in Florida and Georgia, I have never stopped at any Agriculture scales when towing an open trailer with any of my pickup trucks. And I tow many things including tractors, and I've never had any issues. But you can not skip them if you're towing an enclosed trailer or they will get you.
By California vehicle code, a pickup is a vehicle with a bed that has less than 11,500 GVWR. Since most modern one ton duallies are 14000 GVWR, they qualify instead as a CMV, bed or not. CVC 471 states: A “pickup truck” is a motor truck with a manufacturer’s gross vehicle weight rating of less than 11,500 pounds, an unladen weight of less than 8,001 pounds, and which is equipped with an open box-type bed not exceeding 9 feet in length. “Pickup truck” does not include a motor vehicle otherwise meeting the above definition, that is equipped with a bed-mounted storage compartment unit commonly called a “utility body.”
I haven't tried it on my 3500 Aisin yet but one trick for hills is to max the AC. On my 2500 that would force the fan on to get air moving on the condenser with the side effect of cooling the transmission.
Save your money : "Not for Hire" is a myth and the stickers are meaningless in the eyes of the DOT and will not prevent you from being pulled over if a DOT official suspects you are commercial. The nice lady you spoke to at the botoh works for the Department of Agriculture and doesn't know or care if your truck is legal or not - not her job. 🤷♂️
California has a sign at the entrance to the scales. It reads no pickups. I agree not for hire is irrelevant. If anything the bigger issue would be trying to pull hills going over 60 miles per hour. The speed limit when you have a total of 3 axles or more in California is 55. He would most likely be pulled over for that before being hassled for running the scales.
For California, if you have a factory pickup box under 9 feet in length, you do not have to stop at the scales, even if you are commercial. 3500,4500,5500 with pick up box=no stop at scales, 3500,4500,5500 flat bed/utility bed=stop at scales. Not sure of other states, but that is California law.
I have almost the exact same truck. I have SRW and 3.42 gears with Aisin... I own my own independant hot shot company with a 30 foot GN. Temperatures are the same as yours. For context on temperatures, look at your temperature dial. In 100 degree weather my oil temp was 217. Same temps and pressures as yours. Would also highly recommend NOT tuning your truck. Cummins has gotten things finely tuned with the emissions.
darkhorse2reign glad to hear same numbers on yours. And I’m talking about tunes on my 5500. It’s well not stock anymore not for awhile. Hardly ever here the fan kick on in it
@@VBELTandSON // ah! That makes sense! And yes, these trucks are incredibly comfortable to drive under a load. This 2018 truck is my sweetheart. Has made me good honest money.
FYI, maybe you know this now that you got your CDL (good on you!), but that ag station that you went through could care less about your trailer or rig. They are only ag, livestock, bees, fruit. PRIOR to it on the right hand side was the CHP truck scale. Then when trucks leave that scale they are guided through the ag station on the right, as you saw. I think the only way that you were lucky enough to not get stopped (and you would have been fined and deemed out of service until you got a CDL driver to come drive your rig) is because it appeared to be VERY busy and they didn't want to bother with you or didn't see you go by. Having Not For Hire and having a personal load does not matter. A CDL is required based on the weight rating of your vehicles. You got lucky! NICE rig, envious. :)
I have the same rig as yours from 2014. Last Summer coming from French Meadows Lake back up to Forest Hill. It was 105 degrees at the bottom of the Canyon Middle Fork American River. our truck got to 231 engine temp. Carrying a 6000 pound arctic fox camper and trailer full of motorcycles and gear. I don't remember the transmission getting above 170 though. I want to hear about your land in Nevada, there are a lot of gold mines out there in the middle of that desert. We have a gold mine with a 185 ft deep air shaft on our 10 acres up near Sugar Pine Lake.
Thanks for the ride, it’s been a while for me on that road, it’s a nice drive. Good info, would be cool to see the same kind of test after you tune it.
Scale stops in Texas can be skipped. We do it different: Texas D.O.T. inspectors simply pull you over whenever they want based of G.V.W. rating A dual tandem trailer is an easy way to get their attention.Got to have the correct drivers license or you get a hefty ticket and must park the rig until a correctly licensed driver shows up.I was in one of the Dakota's pulling a white 16' cargo trailer and there they have electronic signs on the interstate telling you to pull in:"Silver truck with white trailer PULL IN". I was empty except for luggage and had an interesting interview with the officers. Told them to take the key and open and inspect and they let me go on my merry way...
Most new diesels with DEF have to keep the engine temps higher than most would like so they will regenerate properly. My M2 Freightliner wont think about regenerating if engine temps are under 150 and wont do a full auto regen unless that are consistently 200
@@akbychoice 2013 DD13 with their wonderful onepac dpf filter set up. Only has needed a an out of truck cleaning a handful of times but in the winter months, the truck requires a manual in park regen no less than twice a week. Minimum 45 minute ordeal.
Burn280 our trucks idle a lot while pumping products and would never regen during that time. I drove a 2000 peterbilt and didn’t have to deal with that garbage.
Why are you driving with that on? All the trucks we drive have been deleted. Spending a thousand dollars every other month cause a sensor goes out gets old that dpf destroys any and all engine prematurely.
i agree, just a friendly reminder as an ex owner operator (11yrs big truck flat beds) and an ex FF EMT(7yrs), follow the big trucks, most of them are very good at what they do.CA allows 7 to 9 mph over the limit depending on the Chipper. Always get on the radio and ask if unsure.The ONLY stupid question is the one we dont ask.Stay safe always, if you find yourself rushing. think about the consequences.Big truck or any traffic collision can be life threatening, Stay safe, God bless.
I drag a 40 footer loaded with 2 Jeeps and I never hit check stations. Even when the DOT cops are working hard last year on the New Mexico Colorado border they never stopped me. I don't have not for hire decals
Did mountains from Texas to Wyoming Wyoming to Cali then Cali to Texas hit mountains in Arizona Cali Wyoming Colorado, Nevada, Utah I have a 2018 Larime Longhorn South Fork Edition Ram 3500 Dually 6.7 Turbo Cummins and a 40ft Big Tex 22GN trailer never ever ran above normal operating temps up or down mountains. I just keep the engine brake on auto and the truck does all the work never no spikes in temp even under a 16,000lb load she just pulls and hauls like a dream this truck was designed to haul once trailer tow mode is engaged that's a wrap. I just hit 70K bought her brand new Nov 2017 she has been a dream she hauls anything no issues.
@@sgtjameslindsey2493 If a scale house is backed up to where semi's are stopping on the freeway, they will wave the other trucks around. They aren't going to clog up a freeway and cause traffic backups just to inspect some semi's. Now that transponders are common, you rarely have that issue now.
I have '18 ram 3500 with aisin. Fan turns on to cool off radiator at about 212 and brings it all the way down to 188. If the oil gets above 215 fan kicks on to cool down the oil.
@@jgfrakes2736 Except in Florida. Signs read "Trucks-Trailers". A pickup in FL is registered as a "Truck". I have a 3500 Dually but not for commercial use. I hit the scales. If loaded and with the trailer, I get a green light and just blow by the scales. If empty, I get the red light and an arrow to the scales. If you pass a scale house in Florida with the trailer and the vehicle is a commercial use one ( like a mowing company ) and you have signs on it, you better hit the scales lane unless you have Pre-Pass and at least get the green bypass light or you can get fined. Even worse, if they nail you past the point of where you can go into the scales, you can get a ticket, have to turn around, go thru the scales the other direction, turn around again and go thru the scales you should have gone thru in the first place. Saw that happen on I-10. Same applies at the Ag Inspection Stations. Watched an empty horse trailer blow by one on I-95 while I was in the inspection lane. Also watched the CMV Trooper pull out and hit his lights. Because I was the only one in the line, I got a trailer inspection also. DACS officer was impressed about how well the trailer was secured. Opened up, saw the Gravely garden tractors, was satisfied and sent on my way. Meanwhile the horse trailer guy was getting his ticket written.
I pulled through Nebraska once and the sign said all towing vehicles stop, private and commercial. Had to go through the scales with the big boys and had no issues with weight and my 5th wheel.
In 16 i rented a 3/4 diesel from enterprise trk and they gave me a 16 f250 6.7 powerstroke and it pulled my 13k trl fine. I bought a 94 f350 7.3 powerstroke dually early 17 then a week before my tractor show an a$$ ran a light in front of me and totalled my trk. I called enterprise trk for a rental and they gave me a 17 2500 6.7 cummins. Pulling same trl up same hill that powerstroke was working hard but held 60 all the way up vs the cummins lost 5 mph and i didnt like the dodges features. My trl i pull with my 97 f350 dually now and im pleased with my trk. Im getting ready to tackle the bad oil leaks on the 7.3
what rear gears were in the cummins? Dodge/Ram does like to put fuel mileage gears in their trucks (3.43 and 3.23) , where ford and chevy tend to hang 3.73 and 4.10 rear axle ratios, which does make a large difference in hill climbs in high gear. The axle ratio needs to be known before people can say they are truely comparing "apples to apples". Yes, the newest generation ford has a better cab layout than the Ram...I can give ford that, but I prefer the cummins engine because of how many years it has been proven. Ford, on the other hand, has been changing underwear like babies have their diapers changed because they couldn't get one that was as reliable as the 7.3 International Powerstroke
My understanding is it really has more to do with how the truck is owned and insured. If it’s commercially owned and insured. You might get pulled over for skipping the scales and get in trouble. If it’s personally owned and insured you should be ok cause you’re not commercial.
I know it's not your normal tow rig but you ever hear of a radiator mister system? They sell them here in AZ at pep boys but I dont have to explain the science I'm sure you know, but evap cooling is pretty cool
Very nice. Hearing about that low RPM up the hill. Wow. The difference between smaller engine trucks to bigger engine trucks. The thing is they give you to much information in the cockpit. Not the driver seat. All the information is wildly cool. Nice video. Keep the rubber down.
2018 Ram 3500 SRW Aisin trans 3.43 rear gears pulling just under 26k with a 40ft gooseneck i had the cruze control set to 80 mph climbing 6% grades in Colorado as an all out test of the trucks capabilities and my temps were similar to yours but the truck could not hold 80 mph and dropped down to 70 mph though thats all it gave up. It was impressive and fun to flex that Cummins muscle on the open highway at 3 am.
Not sure of the laws in CA but in my state, if you fly by the scale and you're over 10,000 commercial or not, you're getting pulled over, weighed and an automatic level one inspection.
@@brcar6862 22 states that require any vehicle with a gvw or gcvw over 10000 commercial or private to pull into weigh station to be weighed. I drive truck for a living. I've seen pick ups pulling a small trailer get pulled in during the DOT blitz and get shut down or get a huge fine cause they're overweight or their vehicle or trailer wasn't roadworthy
honestly dude i think those coolant temps are a little high for 15k, she should be around 200, 210 max... thats kinda odd if u ask me... mabey thats how cummins wants it to run, with 30k she would be running crazy hot... i know my duramax with 15k she barley hits 205, but she has no emissions bullshit, well the egr cooler fell off... but thats ok. and i love the updates on temps as u pull the hills
I think I am going to through bolt my fan. The electric fan clutch is useless. Cummins says you can run the engine all day long at 235. At 245 it will go into limp mode. Towing in 85 degree weather today and on some of the grades in the mountains of Kentucky, I hit 215 one time. Ran around 207 quite a bit. On the level it goes back down to 198. Have the Cummins industrial/marine 165 degree thermostat. That lets it go to about 170 on long downhills. So you get a lot more leeway when you hit the uphills again.
Having driven truck for years so I know what the laws concerning CDL license. I gave up my CDL and don't really want it back. I now have a one ton doully with a 18' flat bed trailer that I haul stuff from Or to Ca. For hire. I go by the scales all the time because it is a pickup. If I get stopped for blowing the scales I'll just play dum.
Homie Alexx I am so glad that you have that attitude. You are my cop blocker as I drive right past you while you get that ticket. Thanks for keeping them on you and busy while I keep on trucking.
Dude, where all the trucks were, that was the scales. Where the lady was, that was the agriculture inspection station! I know, I'm a truck driver that goes through that scale house and ag inspection station 3 times a month! Most if not all scales says No Pickups! Also you got 4 axles, which should make you run 55 mph, you can get away with 62. I don't go over 62 myself and I've been passed by trucks that normally only go 65 mph, doing 65 mph in California.
Your little 6.7 Cummins is putting out more power and torque than the 8V71 Detroit my dad ran in car carriers. Of course you're not running a 13 speed Road Ranger behind it.
You dont have to worry about the scales or a not for hire sticker . Only thing to worry about is weight. Just because the truck will pull it doesn't mean your allowed . But if your licensed for it I wouldn't be worried.
You silver tongued devil you!!! Worried about the scale house??? Not the bearded charmer! Ha ha ha ha!! Something to be said for treating people with respect and being polite.
I just got pulled over in my Dodge 3500 pulling a 30Ft Gooseneck hauling my 2 OFF-ROAD Range Rover Play toys !! I did have the "Not For Hire, Private Truck" on the door !! The DOT Officer explained it to me as, It doesn't matter if your FOR HIRE or not !! If it's over 26K, Your Required to have a CDL A !! If the Trailer is DESIGNED to carry over 10K, You need a CDL A !!! And if you make money off ANY PART of your Truck, Trailer, Load it's considered Commercial !! For Hire or Not, You're still Required to follow the Laws ! BUT, He did say that, They really don't worry about a 1 ton or smaller towing a trailer ad long as the COMBINED PACKAGE is UNDER 26K !!! If the truck weights over 8000, It's considered a Commercial Vehicle !! And even though you only use it to move your PERSONAL stuff, It will require Commercial Insurance and a CDL !! Only Vehicle that is CDL Exempt is a MOTORHOME/RV !! Or a RV Toter !! But if you haul any Trailer other than a RV, The TV Toter Exemption is no longer in effect !! FYI, I only pay $60 a month for 1M of Commercial Insurance for my International S1954 4 Door Dump/Flatbed !! And I've had a CDL A for 30 years !
@@VBELTandSON true. I will say this though, the DOT guys in California are some of the best at knowing the laws. I've never had an issue with those guys. Take Nebraska for instance, all pick up trucks towing a trailer whether commercial or not have to stop at scales unless you're towing an TV.
If you read the california law it says a pickup is defined as a motortruck with an open type box and a GVW of less than 11500 AND and an unladen weight of less than 8001 lbs.So a commercial truck such as yours with a gvw of 14000 is not classified as a pickup.
I have an F-350 dually in my business with the logos on the rear windows so I just roll the windows down and roll incognito lol.Im not sure how that would work if you got pulled over though as they can see the truck is registered to a business.Hopefully they have better things to do.I am assuming your MCP is as a private carrier so you are never for hire.
I usually go through the ag station every weekend and I know they are just doing their job but damn it’s an annoying stop. Guy asks where I’m coming from and I say nevada, then asks where I’m going and I say California. I get a glare and he says have a nice day 😂
First time I went by a scale in my dually with a gooseneck trailer a local was sitting at the scale and chased me down. I have a small trucking company and was advertising it on the back glass and he saw that, so he thought I was commercial. I also asked if I should put not for hire on the trailer and he told me that's just asking to get pulled over.
The way i understand Ca if your truck has a pickup box regardless of what your doing you dont need to pull into the scales as all are marked no pickups however you are required to have a class A if the trailer gvwr is over 10,000 my truck is a big horn same setup the fan was set by factory to come on at 217 i had the local dealer change it to 210
@William Bailey If the trailer has a GVWR over 10'000 lbs then they do have to have a CDL. We just bought a dump trailer with a GVWR of 15'400 and we had to have the manufacturer send us a new sticker with a GVWR of 9995 lbs. For a motor home I believe you can get a CDL with restrictions but if your trailer GVWR is over 10'000 lbs you must have a CDL. This is the 4th dump trailer we've bought and most of the dump trailers in CA are sold with a GVWR of 5 or 10 lbs under 10'000 lbs because a lot of people that buy them don't have a CDL. Trust me, I asked a couple of the dealerships.
@William Bailey This is off of CA. DMV site: (What you can tow with a class C) A single vehicle with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or less including a tow dolly, if used. If the towing vehicle weighs 4,000 lbs. or more unladen, you may tow a: Trailer coach not exceeding 9,000 lbs. gross. Trailer coach or 5th-wheel travel trailer under 10,000 lbs. GVWR when towing is not for compensation. 5th-wheel travel trailer exceeding 10,000 lbs. but not exceeding 15,000 lbs. GVWR, when towing is not for compensation. NOTE: No passenger vehicle regardless of weight, may tow more than one vehicle. No motor vehicle under 4,000 lbs. unladen may tow any vehicle weighing 6,000 lbs. or more gross. (CVC §21715)
@William Bailey Also off CA DMV site: Who needs a CDL, WHO NEEDS A CDL You Must Have a CDL to Operate: • Any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more. • Any single vehicle with a GVWR less than 26,000 pounds which is designed, used, or maintained to transport more than 10 passengers including the driver. • A combination vehicle with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds. • Any vehicle that tows any vehicle with a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more. • Any vehicle that tows more than 1 vehicle or a trailer bus.
My 2018 Ram does the same thing on temps. Fan clutch kicks on at + 220 and oil temp is same 222+.Trans never runs hot.Cummins told me it's normal.Seems hot to me.
@@carsonhammond6204 I did learn that the fan clutch is electronically controlled by the system computer. Have not found a dealership that can change the set point that the fan is engaged though.
Entering a scale in CA has nothing to do with “For Hire” or not. It’s based on vehicle type. “Pickup” trucks are exempt from entering if you are actually driving a “Pickup” by legal definition. CA vehicle code 471 VC clearly defines a “Pickup”, it must have a factory bed and have a GVWR of less than 11,500 lbs. If you purchase a new F350, 3500, etc., that has a GVWR over 11,500 lbs you must enter a scale regardless if the vehicle is used for compensation or not. Additionally, any truck with a service, flatbed, etc. must enter regardless of GVWR. Bypassing a scale can be cited either as an infraction or misdemeanor. They are both moving violation. “Not For hire”
Technically that is true HOWEVER, the CHP will yell at you if you go in without a load or with anything that even looks not commercial. If you call the main CHP commercial office they will tell you that. So if not pulling or pulling a regular trailer or RV don’t do it.
My 06 Duramax Silverado 3500hd pulling about 18k on fift wheel gets up to 235 when fan kicks in. Manual says that its normal for my truck to go 245 but was always worried. Now seeing new truck getting those temperatures under load makes me feel better that the owners manual could be right.
In my state its not a big deal if you have a gooseneck still dont have to weight if its personal load. But this is one reason Ill stick to the bumper pull (pintle hitch 20 ton) trailers. Want a good aftermarket fan get a Hayden one like I have. I have true dual no cats exhaust and when the fan kicks in you cant hear the truck at all.
Makes no sense for the fan to have any impact when driving above say 25 mph. There is no way it is going to pull more air than the vehicle speed. 6.7's run hotter. I seem to recall the factory thermostat is 200 degrees, and the engineers expect it to swing under load. This feels like how our oil pressure gauges stopped reporting real time pressure, and now report sampled averages.
I hauled campers for a few years.... Cali doesn't want any commercial pickup trucks unless it's a permitted load in their scale houses.... they will however oblige you in worst terms should you decide to "go in".
I own and operate a light duty hotshot business and believe me I get cut off by retards in small cars all the time. People don't think or they assume you can stop on a dime with a big trailer behind you. Besides crappy weather, idiot drivers are the only thing that makes pulling a big trailer stressful.
My understanding is with recent MVC law changes, the "NOT FOR HIRE" or "PRIVATE" signs or lettering is now a red flag. If the vehicle being hauled is in your name, you don't even need DOT numbers because your not engaged in commerce.
California has a State CDL for personal use that depends on weight, I think Texas does also. Basically if you want to drive something bigger they charge you more money.
Newer trucks run warmer than most are used to for efficiency. Warm engines run cleaner and more efficient. 225 degrees for coolant temps is no big deal in my opinion. The fan on my work truck doesnt kick on till about 205-220. Once it gets to about 250 is when I would start to get concerned. 160-180 degrees trans temp is perfect. I wouldn't sweat it man. That truck can hold it's own. Remember the tow ratings on new trucks is a SAE rating. Which means they are tested and punished to get whatever ratings they put on it. So anything you'll throw at it is child's play compared to what the engineers and testers did to it. Great vid man. Keep it going!
55 while pulling a trailer you’re already illegal you just admitted guilt come on man if your gonna put up a video at least obey the law. Remember you are innocent until proven guilty but the video removes all doubt. thanks for the video keep em coming.
I did the hot-shot (full legit!) for 11 years before retiring 12/21/19. Yup, 75k mi/yr avg dealing with moron drivers is tough. You just have to adjust your thinking. Go ahead and cuss, but don’t let their idiocy rub off. NEVER adopt their bad behavior. Safety first, last, always.
i guess i missed the whole point as to what should be a problem here. IVe a 30ft dual tandem gooseneck pulled by 1996 ford f250 crew cab diesel 4wd single rear wheels. Ive hauled two Cat D2s from maine, two Cat D2s from oregon, one Cat D4 from montana, new jersey, and ny to alabama, and never crossed a scale or got stopped at any time. At times ive gone to truck stops on my own to be weighed and was a total of 26740 for the whole rig. Never a problem. What am I missing here??
Thanks for sharing👍👍👍. Towed the dump trailer with the 02 f350, the 96 3500 5speed and the 2018 Ram 2500 with the heaviest load by far, towed the best in every way and will be my go to tow rig. When I hooked up, plugged in and headed down the hill, it automatically knew to go into tow mode and turned on the exhaust brake...simply amazing.
Goodluck with a Dodge trani,
There definitely aren't enough vids of people actually showing these trucks being used, talking temps, and the truth. I've towed with some rolling disasters and sweat bullets the whole time. These newer (2015+ ish) trucks are beastly. Thanks Sam!
I'm glad that I'm not the only one that keeps such a close eye on temperatures when climbing mountain passes. My eco-boost will two as fast as I want it to going up steep hills but twice it has gotten warmer than I was comfortable with. I've learned to keep it 60-65 mph which the engine is happy with.
My 96 3500 12 valve pulled Tehachapi form the west side with 20,000 lbs. truck and trailer. Averaged 13.5 mpg. from Bakersfield to Apple Valley. Best engine ever made as far as I'm concerned.
@Shane Gunter The "P pump" 12 valves are the greatest ever...except the one particular block casting that for some reason would crack and put the coolant all over the ground... and the "killer dowel pin" which is not too hard to fix
I always wondered why there was a "Not for Hire" sign on those trailers.
Traveling through Kentucky in my Chevy 3500, stopped in Louisville for a few days and dropped the fifth wheel. When over to to a neighboring town and drove past the weigh station. Officer pulled me over and told me I had to enter the station. Keep in mind, I had no trailer or cargo at all. Personal use on vacation. Only had my small step ladder in the back of the truck we use with the trailer. Gave me a ticket for passing the weigh station, no dot numbers, medical card, annual inspection, road triangles, or fire extinguisher. $560.00. Never asked me for my inspection, Triangles or extinguisher even though they were in the truck. Asked about it and he told me that I had to fight it. Told me because there was a step ladder in the back of the truck, it was commercial for hire. How is transporting my own ladder in the back of my truck on vacation for hire? Drove 3 days to fight the ticket in court and on arrival was informed the date has been changed for another 2 weeks out! Court refused to dismiss the charge, hired a lawyer to fight the tickets. Money grab by the state of Kentucky on out of state drivers!
New title: man drives Donner pass, nothing happens
LMAO or... How to waste 17 minutes of your life (watching a pick up truck sneak across commercial scale house "undetected" while not even over heating) ... Amazing content 😲
Enrique Armand pretty good one bud 😂
My 1500 w HEMI and 3.92 suits all of my needs but watching your videos makes me want a Cummins
And if you had a 5.9 cummins ram2500, you could pull more with 3.42 gears and get far better fuel mileage. We have a 2004 that gets 22mpg empty, and 18mpg with a tandem-dual axle gooseneck with a John deere 4240 with water in the rear tires and a front end loader going 68 on the interstate. Not bad for a stock 220,000 mile automatic tranny 2500!
Those temps sound good, just like my 2014 5500 in summer temps. Nice thing about when the scale house is busy they usually can’t come catch you.
Yeah, same temps on my "low output" 6.7 2500... It's just how it's designed to run. They let the temps climb relatively high compared to other engines before kicking on a fan. Hasn't been problematic, just the way it is.
I have a similar setup and was getting mixed answers. I called Cordelia scale house and was told this: “if you have a pickup bed on your truck, do not enter my scales, at all”
Good enough for me!
that's what Im gonna roll with ha
Well then that means my neighbor with a 75 Mack superliner 70 inch sleeper and an 8 foot pickup bed on her means he can sail bye. It's his retirement rig. Sold his house after his wife died three years before he retired. Absolutely loves it. When he pulls in a campground they try to tell him no until they note no fifth wheel. E-6 350 Mack engine that was out of frame rebuilt by Mack 7 months before he retired which means the warranty is good at any Mack dealer. 600 gallons of fuel capacity, auxiliary diesel generator water cooled piped into the main engine so she always starts no matter how cold out it gets.
Cheers!
James Shanks I’m a fan of him and his set up!
Thanks for sharing
@@jamesshanks2614 He has a fine ride! I'd love to find a GMC General like in "Smokey and the Bandit II" and stretch the sleeper all the way to the end of the frame, with a Series 60 under the hood with an egr delete and rear air ride suspension with a diesel AC generator to make into a motorhome for my retirement days!
I have the same truck. Towing 44 ft triple axle tow hauler loaded with Harley's out across Kansas (approx 21,000 lbs ) in 105 heat mine was running 220 to 225 when pretty new I called Dodge on cell phone and they had a tech on the line tell me run it till it pukes pretty much. He said that the computer wont let you hurt the truck. It will down power itself before it will allow any issue to harm engine. No I don't care to run that hot either. My Aisin trans never got over 175 even on some big mountain passes. 410 gears also. I was fighting a strong head wind all day and the truck was under heavy load running 70. I slowed to 65 and down shifted to 5th gear to get the rpm's higher and the fan clutch would engage when I did this and cool me back down to about 195 before fan clutch disengaged again. Pulling mountain passes I have learned to keep the rpm's up and the fan will engage and keep temps down but you need 2500 rpm or so before clutch engages on fan. I think these need a lower setting on the the fan clutch personally. With all the computer stuff on these I wont disturb anything until beyond warranty period. So far I love this truck. I have hauled all over USA and up and down many big mountains. The exhaust brake is just fantastic. I set to full on then the only thing needed is to lift on the throttle, the more you lift the more exhaust brake comes in. Easy to meter it with your foot this way with out needing to touch brake pedal. I have towed my whole life, this current truck is by far the best hauler I have have ever had. Very quite inside, big plus from my 2001 24 vlv. I would prefer shift paddles on wheel instead of having to take hand off the wheel to select gear I want on shift lever. In the mountains I use the manual shift feature a lot. That's my worst complaint so far along with crappy mileage compared to my 2001. 35,000 miles so far most of that hauling heavy loads. This truck likes it.
Not for hire is not functioning within commercial commerce.if Dot tyrants pull you over and write you tickets.take it to court.also take a copy of the Constitution and the supreme Court decision way back in the 30's.the court ruled that a man has the right to transport his personnel property business property and household goods upon the roads and the land.i have done it several times and eventually they will catch on.you have no rights unless you clearly understand your Rights and demand these maritime commercial courts abide by your Rights.america has been possessed by the devil's of Hitler.people better wake up.read and study your Rights and be willing to fight for them.no one is going to do it for you, especially a lawyer.lawyers are foriegn agents and are just apart of the devil's freak show.
Right on. Didn’t think you’d have any trouble 👍 Mine runs a little warm to. I can’t wait to get a 2nd Gen my self to restore 😎 Get one with a 12v or if I can’t don’t one then a 24v 👌
03:55 "I wanted to hit these hills at 65/70...". You're in California, 3 axles or more, it's 55mph. Welcome to California! We live on the other side of that "hill" (aka, the Sierra Nevada). We pull a 31' travel trailer all over the U.S.. When we get back in California, 55mph seems so slow and unnecessary.
Almost all of our RV travels take us up and over the Sierra, so we've been back and forth over it hundreds of times. My advice to those towing/RVing is to plan on pissing off some passenger vehicles. They're doing 75+, 18-wheelers are down to 55mph. With this mix of vehicles speeds, getting around a very slow semi-truck while towing/RVing requires you to take any tiny gap in the fast lane traffic you can get. If that gets some of those passenger vehicles upset - oh, well...
You can get away with 63mph in a 55 zone. Been all over CA towing trailers and have never received a ticket at 63. Never even been pulled over, and passed many cops.
Who cares what the speed limit is.i run 65 there all the time in my rig
Hahaha. I hate that checkpoint. They wave me through but one time kid asked me where I was coming from. Told him nothing and went on my way after he knew I wasn't telling him. What a way to get into my home state.
Yes sir, talk about driving! I've been a regional dedicated semi driver for about 3 years now, usually 350-550 miles a night! Only good thing about the gig I'm in is that I'm home daily. The distribution center I work out of is only 6 miles from home, so that's a plus, haha!
My 4th gen runs hot on them hills too made me nervous first time I guess they are designed for it
FYI: Speed limit for trailers in CA is is 55mph. Pickups don't need to enter the scales. Even with a goose neck. If you switch to a flat bed to have to enter.
Coulda swore you only need to go through a weigh station if your making money with the truck and trailer
If GCVW is over 26k then you must, pickup or not.
@@smokeythehuman3596 yup, commercial over 10k = enter scales.
@@juhthreef so your telling me that you would need to go through a scale if your driving say a new f350 with a fully loaded bed (obviously over 10k with it being a heavy load) and it was your personal truck and your personal belongings in the bed , I've even gone by weigh stations pulling a trailer and had a full bed and what was on the trailer was obviously not for personal use but there was no sticker with company name or number on the truck or trailer and the was no not for hire sticker, I've only ever seen or heard of people getting stopped for skipping weigh stations when their truck and trailer and the load was obviously more than 26k pounds, and some weigh stations are easy to get around as long as you aren't being followed when getting off an exit before and getting on an exit after but I just don't think it's worth even trying to skip a weigh station unless your well overweight and don't have the money to pay the fee for being overweight
@@smokeythehuman3596 weigh stations are more than just being overweight, you can get a full DOT level 1/2/3 inspection at them and thats usually where spot inspections happen which forces drivers out of service. Anything over 10k used commercially requires stops at all open stations unless they have a method of bypass(prepass) or otherwise noted. Over 10K requires a DOT number when used commercially & requires e-logs unless exempt.
Here in Florida and Georgia, I have never stopped at any Agriculture scales when towing an open trailer with any of my pickup trucks. And I tow many things including tractors, and I've never had any issues. But you can not skip them if you're towing an enclosed trailer or they will get you.
I was hotshotting a load into CA via Nevada I-15 S, and that scale had a couple of very bold signs NO PICKUP TRUCKS.
By California vehicle code, a pickup is a vehicle with a bed that has less than 11,500 GVWR. Since most modern one ton duallies are 14000 GVWR, they qualify instead as a CMV, bed or not.
CVC 471 states: A “pickup truck” is a motor truck with a manufacturer’s gross vehicle weight rating of less than 11,500 pounds, an unladen weight of less than 8,001 pounds, and which is equipped with an open box-type bed not exceeding 9 feet in length. “Pickup truck” does not include a motor vehicle otherwise meeting the above definition, that is equipped with a bed-mounted storage compartment unit commonly called a “utility body.”
I haven't tried it on my 3500 Aisin yet but one trick for hills is to max the AC. On my 2500 that would force the fan on to get air moving on the condenser with the side effect of cooling the transmission.
Save your money : "Not for Hire" is a myth and the stickers are meaningless in the eyes of the DOT and will not prevent you from being pulled over if a DOT official suspects you are commercial.
The nice lady you spoke to at the botoh works for the Department of Agriculture and doesn't know or care if your truck is legal or not - not her job. 🤷♂️
Jurjen H either way I was out of there clean
California has a sign at the entrance to the scales. It reads no pickups. I agree not for hire is irrelevant.
If anything the bigger issue would be trying to pull hills going over 60 miles per hour. The speed limit when you have a total of 3 axles or more in California is 55. He would most likely be pulled over for that before being hassled for running the scales.
Tex Garcia 1 out of 10 trucks is doing 55mph.
@@VBELTandSON agreed. But my point is you run more a risk of being pulled over for that rather than running the scale.
Tex Garcia hadnt towed passed those scales or any scales in several years
I never had a 4th gen with a aisin transmission, really need to try one out ! till now i always had to mess around with 68rfe.
Great ride a long. Always fun to evaluate a trucks capability’s
Hell yeah brother! Reminded me of cleetus MacFarland lol
For California, if you have a factory pickup box under 9 feet in length, you do not have to stop at the scales, even if you are commercial. 3500,4500,5500 with pick up box=no stop at scales, 3500,4500,5500 flat bed/utility bed=stop at scales.
Not sure of other states, but that is California law.
Lol don’t listen to this dude I got pulled over for running a scale in Cali on a 2500 with 2 small cars and I had a bed
Very nice setup! Trailer truck and load 😎👌
I have almost the exact same truck. I have SRW and 3.42 gears with Aisin... I own my own independant hot shot company with a 30 foot GN. Temperatures are the same as yours. For context on temperatures, look at your temperature dial. In 100 degree weather my oil temp was 217. Same temps and pressures as yours. Would also highly recommend NOT tuning your truck. Cummins has gotten things finely tuned with the emissions.
darkhorse2reign glad to hear same numbers on yours. And I’m talking about tunes on my 5500. It’s well not stock anymore not for awhile. Hardly ever here the fan kick on in it
@@VBELTandSON // ah! That makes sense! And yes, these trucks are incredibly comfortable to drive under a load. This 2018 truck is my sweetheart. Has made me good honest money.
FYI, maybe you know this now that you got your CDL (good on you!), but that ag station that you went through could care less about your trailer or rig. They are only ag, livestock, bees, fruit. PRIOR to it on the right hand side was the CHP truck scale. Then when trucks leave that scale they are guided through the ag station on the right, as you saw. I think the only way that you were lucky enough to not get stopped (and you would have been fined and deemed out of service until you got a CDL driver to come drive your rig) is because it appeared to be VERY busy and they didn't want to bother with you or didn't see you go by. Having Not For Hire and having a personal load does not matter. A CDL is required based on the weight rating of your vehicles. You got lucky! NICE rig, envious. :)
That’s why the first day I got my gooseneck I put not for hire decals on their
I have the same rig as yours from 2014. Last Summer coming from French Meadows Lake back up to Forest Hill. It was 105 degrees at the bottom of the Canyon Middle Fork American River. our truck got to 231 engine temp. Carrying a 6000 pound arctic fox camper and trailer full of motorcycles and gear. I don't remember the transmission getting above 170 though. I want to hear about your land in Nevada, there are a lot of gold mines out there in the middle of that desert. We have a gold mine with a 185 ft deep air shaft on our 10 acres up near Sugar Pine Lake.
Stop at ag check point, if the no pickups sign is posted , pass the scale. If there is no no pickups sign, pull in the scale! (California only)
Thanks for the ride, it’s been a while for me on that road, it’s a nice drive. Good info, would be cool to see the same kind of test after you tune it.
Check out Dubs Around the lake! That’s the last time we drove through!! All Volkswagen’s
yeah anything under 250 degrees of engine temp and you're just minty!
Scale stops in Texas can be skipped. We do it different: Texas D.O.T. inspectors simply pull you over whenever they want based of G.V.W. rating A dual tandem trailer is an easy way to get their attention.Got to have the correct drivers license or you get a hefty ticket and must park the rig until a correctly licensed driver shows up.I was in one of the Dakota's pulling a white 16' cargo trailer and there they have electronic signs on the interstate telling you to pull in:"Silver truck with white trailer PULL IN". I was empty except for luggage and had an interesting interview with the officers. Told them to take the key and open and inspect and they let me go on my merry way...
Thank you for telling us the temps. I just got a 14' 3500 with the same trans and axles and was wondering about what it should run
Most new diesels with DEF have to keep the engine temps higher than most would like so they will regenerate properly. My M2 Freightliner wont think about regenerating if engine temps are under 150 and wont do a full auto regen unless that are consistently 200
Burn280 how many times has the filter clogged up? The KW’s we had were terrible, always in the shop to have the DPF to be cleaned.
@@akbychoice 2013 DD13 with their wonderful onepac dpf filter set up. Only has needed a an out of truck cleaning a handful of times but in the winter months, the truck requires a manual in park regen no less than twice a week. Minimum 45 minute ordeal.
Burn280 our trucks idle a lot while pumping products and would never regen during that time. I drove a 2000 peterbilt and didn’t have to deal with that garbage.
Why are you driving with that on? All the trucks we drive have been deleted. Spending a thousand dollars every other month cause a sensor goes out gets old that dpf destroys any and all engine prematurely.
some places actually do check for the DEF and DPF equipment and that the trucks are using ULSD.
CA speed limit for any vehicle hauling a trailer is 55mph, I'm sure you know that.
i agree, just a friendly reminder as an ex owner operator (11yrs big truck flat beds) and an ex FF EMT(7yrs), follow the big trucks, most of them are very good at what they do.CA allows 7 to 9 mph over the limit depending on the Chipper. Always get on the radio and ask if unsure.The ONLY stupid question is the one we dont ask.Stay safe always, if you find yourself rushing. think about the consequences.Big truck or any traffic collision can be life threatening, Stay safe, God bless.
I recently got an '18. It's a lower trim Tradesman but I love it anyway. Pre-owned with only 2,600 miles.
I drag a 40 footer loaded with 2 Jeeps and I never hit check stations. Even when the DOT cops are working hard last year on the New Mexico Colorado border they never stopped me. I don't have not for hire decals
I have 3.42 in my Ram with the Aisin. So far dragging one Jeep on the 40 foot tridem which is 15k I got 12 mpg but that's not in the mountains
I travel with my motorhome at 55 mph and get that a lot of the time even from truckers!
Did mountains from Texas to Wyoming Wyoming to Cali then Cali to Texas hit mountains in Arizona Cali Wyoming Colorado, Nevada, Utah I have a 2018 Larime Longhorn South Fork Edition Ram 3500 Dually 6.7 Turbo Cummins and a 40ft Big Tex 22GN trailer never ever ran above normal operating temps up or down mountains. I just keep the engine brake on auto and the truck does all the work never no spikes in temp even under a 16,000lb load she just pulls and hauls like a dream this truck was designed to haul once trailer tow mode is engaged that's a wrap. I just hit 70K bought her brand new Nov 2017 she has been a dream she hauls anything no issues.
The rambling was cool, it’s like constant updates on the truck’s performance. I’m interested in the Rams.
Just so the people know...He is on Interstate 80, west bound , going over Donner summit, which is pretty big gain in elevation.
I have a class a CDL and live in Florida, if the scale House is backed up to the road you can bypass, for safety
That's not a true statement Charles
@@sgtjameslindsey2493 If a scale house is backed up to where semi's are stopping on the freeway, they will wave the other trucks around. They aren't going to clog up a freeway and cause traffic backups just to inspect some semi's. Now that transponders are common, you rarely have that issue now.
I have '18 ram 3500 with aisin. Fan turns on to cool off radiator at about 212 and brings it all the way down to 188. If the oil gets above 215 fan kicks on to cool down the oil.
I never stop at scales...
Finally a driving video I know where the person is at lol Reno then stop in boomtown lol #BADCHERRY
Ha!
They don't usually mess with pickup trucks at the Truckee scales.
@@jgfrakes2736 Except in Florida. Signs read "Trucks-Trailers". A pickup in FL is registered as a "Truck". I have a 3500 Dually but not for commercial use. I hit the scales. If loaded and with the trailer, I get a green light and just blow by the scales. If empty, I get the red light and an arrow to the scales. If you pass a scale house in Florida with the trailer and the vehicle is a commercial use one ( like a mowing company ) and you have signs on it, you better hit the scales lane unless you have Pre-Pass and at least get the green bypass light or you can get fined. Even worse, if they nail you past the point of where you can go into the scales, you can get a ticket, have to turn around, go thru the scales the other direction, turn around again and go thru the scales you should have gone thru in the first place. Saw that happen on I-10.
Same applies at the Ag Inspection Stations. Watched an empty horse trailer blow by one on I-95 while I was in the inspection lane. Also watched the CMV Trooper pull out and hit his lights. Because I was the only one in the line, I got a trailer inspection also. DACS officer was impressed about how well the trailer was secured. Opened up, saw the Gravely garden tractors, was satisfied and sent on my way. Meanwhile the horse trailer guy was getting his ticket written.
Mobile D.O.Ts do when they see them
Hauling a 20 foot trailer my truck can go 80mph over those hills if i wanted it to but no point 🤷♂️
I pulled through Nebraska once and the sign said all towing vehicles stop, private and commercial. Had to go through the scales with the big boys and had no issues with weight and my 5th wheel.
The DOT does what the DOT wants too. Pass the scale. If they want you., They can chase after you.
In 16 i rented a 3/4 diesel from enterprise trk and they gave me a 16 f250 6.7 powerstroke and it pulled my 13k trl fine. I bought a 94 f350 7.3 powerstroke dually early 17 then a week before my tractor show an a$$ ran a light in front of me and totalled my trk. I called enterprise trk for a rental and they gave me a 17 2500 6.7 cummins. Pulling same trl up same hill that powerstroke was working hard but held 60 all the way up vs the cummins lost 5 mph and i didnt like the dodges features. My trl i pull with my 97 f350 dually now and im pleased with my trk. Im getting ready to tackle the bad oil leaks on the 7.3
what rear gears were in the cummins? Dodge/Ram does like to put fuel mileage gears in their trucks (3.43 and 3.23) , where ford and chevy tend to hang 3.73 and 4.10 rear axle ratios, which does make a large difference in hill climbs in high gear. The axle ratio needs to be known before people can say they are truely comparing "apples to apples". Yes, the newest generation ford has a better cab layout than the Ram...I can give ford that, but I prefer the cummins engine because of how many years it has been proven. Ford, on the other hand, has been changing underwear like babies have their diapers changed because they couldn't get one that was as reliable as the 7.3 International Powerstroke
My understanding is it really has more to do with how the truck is owned and insured.
If it’s commercially owned and insured. You might get pulled over for skipping the scales and get in trouble.
If it’s personally owned and insured you should be ok cause you’re not commercial.
Beautiful Northern Nevada!
Driving that section of I-80 from Verdi to Floriston is sketchy AF.
I know it's not your normal tow rig but you ever hear of a radiator mister system? They sell them here in AZ at pep boys but I dont have to explain the science I'm sure you know, but evap cooling is pretty cool
But love the video, tow videos are my favorite, definitely good content keep it up 👍
Very nice. Hearing about that low RPM up the hill. Wow. The difference between smaller engine trucks to bigger engine trucks. The thing is they give you to much information in the cockpit. Not the driver seat. All the information is wildly cool. Nice video. Keep the rubber down.
diesel vs gas is all, diesel engines only run up to around 3k rpm redline
2018 Ram 3500 SRW Aisin trans 3.43 rear gears pulling just under 26k with a 40ft gooseneck i had the cruze control set to 80 mph climbing 6% grades in Colorado as an all out test of the trucks capabilities and my temps were similar to yours but the truck could not hold 80 mph and dropped down to 70 mph though thats all it gave up. It was impressive and fun to flex that Cummins muscle on the open highway at 3 am.
In California pickups are not required to stop at the scales
"Signing at scales no pickups"
That made me laugh. Donuts maybe optional though.
Not sure of the laws in CA but in my state, if you fly by the scale and you're over 10,000 commercial or not, you're getting pulled over, weighed and an automatic level one inspection.
Evo8fan what state? Nebraska?
Evo8fan sounds like the commi state of Colorado
Evo no state out there can do that on a private vehicle
@@brcar6862 22 states that require any vehicle with a gvw or gcvw over 10000 commercial or private to pull into weigh station to be weighed. I drive truck for a living. I've seen pick ups pulling a small trailer get pulled in during the DOT blitz and get shut down or get a huge fine cause they're overweight or their vehicle or trailer wasn't roadworthy
@@Evo8fan good to know. Just never seen it where im at but i could be wrong. South carolina one of those?
honestly dude i think those coolant temps are a little high for 15k, she should be around 200, 210 max... thats kinda odd if u ask me... mabey thats how cummins wants it to run, with 30k she would be running crazy hot... i know my duramax with 15k she barley hits 205, but she has no emissions bullshit, well the egr cooler fell off... but thats ok.
and i love the updates on temps as u pull the hills
You do understand diesels like it hot? Diesel is not flammable it takes heat and combustion
I think I am going to through bolt my fan. The electric fan clutch is useless. Cummins says you can run the engine all day long at 235. At 245 it will go into limp mode. Towing in 85 degree weather today and on some of the grades in the mountains of Kentucky, I hit 215 one time. Ran around 207 quite a bit. On the level it goes back down to 198. Have the Cummins industrial/marine 165 degree thermostat. That lets it go to about 170 on long downhills. So you get a lot more leeway when you hit the uphills again.
Having driven truck for years so I know what the laws concerning CDL license. I gave up my CDL and don't really want it back. I now have a one ton doully with a 18' flat bed trailer that I haul stuff from Or to Ca. For hire. I go by the scales all the time because it is a pickup. If I get stopped for blowing the scales I'll just play dum.
California law, when towing a trailer, regardless of the vehicle, the max speed is 55 MPH.
Homie Alexx I am so glad that you have that attitude. You are my cop blocker as I drive right past you while you get that ticket. Thanks for keeping them on you and busy while I keep on trucking.
Don't have have that here in Florida.
I have pulled deck over trailers with my dually pickup up to 85 MPH.
Dude, where all the trucks were, that was the scales. Where the lady was, that was the agriculture inspection station! I know, I'm a truck driver that goes through that scale house and ag inspection station 3 times a month! Most if not all scales says No Pickups! Also you got 4 axles, which should make you run 55 mph, you can get away with 62. I don't go over 62 myself and I've been passed by trucks that normally only go 65 mph, doing 65 mph in California.
CONTAINERMAN68 oh man I made a video just for you!! Enjoy! Ps I’m not a trucker
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Your little 6.7 Cummins is putting out more power and torque than the 8V71 Detroit my dad ran in car carriers. Of course you're not running a 13 speed Road Ranger behind it.
You dont have to worry about the scales or a not for hire sticker . Only thing to worry about is weight. Just because the truck will pull it doesn't mean your allowed . But if your licensed for it I wouldn't be worried.
You silver tongued devil you!!! Worried about the scale house??? Not the bearded charmer! Ha ha ha ha!! Something to be said for treating people with respect and being polite.
Good ol Boone need a drink 🥃 😊
I just got pulled over in my Dodge 3500 pulling a 30Ft Gooseneck hauling my 2 OFF-ROAD Range Rover Play toys !! I did have the "Not For Hire, Private Truck" on the door !! The DOT Officer explained it to me as, It doesn't matter if your FOR HIRE or not !! If it's over 26K, Your Required to have a CDL A !! If the Trailer is DESIGNED to carry over 10K, You need a CDL A !!! And if you make money off ANY PART of your Truck, Trailer, Load it's considered Commercial !! For Hire or Not, You're still Required to follow the Laws ! BUT, He did say that, They really don't worry about a 1 ton or smaller towing a trailer ad long as the COMBINED PACKAGE is UNDER 26K !!! If the truck weights over 8000, It's considered a Commercial Vehicle !! And even though you only use it to move your PERSONAL stuff, It will require Commercial Insurance and a CDL !! Only Vehicle that is CDL Exempt is a MOTORHOME/RV !! Or a RV Toter !! But if you haul any Trailer other than a RV, The TV Toter Exemption is no longer in effect !! FYI, I only pay $60 a month for 1M of Commercial Insurance for my International S1954 4 Door Dump/Flatbed !! And I've had a CDL A for 30 years !
Thanks for the story. I have my class a cdl we all good then 👍🏻
Check out double r diesel for tunes he is a great guy and customer service is awesome. Good luck man nice trucks
Dot around here love you guys with your “not for hire stickers.
Joseph Jessop sweet
You also have a bed on your truck and most weigh stations in California have signs that say "no pick up trucks".
Gene Fugatt true but only takes ones cops opinion to make my day go bad
@@VBELTandSON true. I will say this though, the DOT guys in California are some of the best at knowing the laws. I've never had an issue with those guys. Take Nebraska for instance, all pick up trucks towing a trailer whether commercial or not have to stop at scales unless you're towing an TV.
If you read the california law it says a pickup is defined as a motortruck with an open type box and a GVW of less than 11500 AND and an unladen weight of less than 8001 lbs.So a commercial truck such as yours with a gvw of 14000 is not classified as a pickup.
I have an F-350 dually in my business with the logos on the rear windows so I just roll the windows down and roll incognito lol.Im not sure how that would work if you got pulled over though as they can see the truck is registered to a business.Hopefully they have better things to do.I am assuming your MCP is as a private carrier so you are never for hire.
Northern California Truck the 3500 is registered as 100% personal. But that pick up law makes sense. I hate the scale
I usually go through the ag station every weekend and I know they are just doing their job but damn it’s an annoying stop. Guy asks where I’m coming from and I say nevada, then asks where I’m going and I say California. I get a glare and he says have a nice day 😂
If you just say "Reno", and then say "Sacramento", he won't glare at you.
How about this when pulling your RV, “Where are you coming from, California, Where are you going to, California.”
First time I went by a scale in my dually with a gooseneck trailer a local was sitting at the scale and chased me down. I have a small trucking company and was advertising it on the back glass and he saw that, so he thought I was commercial. I also asked if I should put not for hire on the trailer and he told me that's just asking to get pulled over.
Pick ups with gooseneck trailers rarely seen at weighbridges , but mobile / patrol D.O.Ts pull them over everytime they see them
The way i understand Ca if your truck has a pickup box regardless of what your doing you dont need to pull into the scales as all are marked no pickups however you are required to have a class A if the trailer gvwr is over 10,000 my truck is a big horn same setup the fan was set by factory to come on at 217 i had the local dealer change it to 210
Kyle Henisey that’s the way I kinda thought but yes I do need cdl and I do have one. But that’s cool what your dealer did for you
In CA. if your GVWR is over 26'000 lb or your trailers GVWR is over 10'000 lb, loaded or not, you have to have a class A.
@William Bailey If the trailer has a GVWR over 10'000 lbs then they do have to have a CDL. We just bought a dump trailer with a GVWR of 15'400 and we had to have the manufacturer send us a new sticker with a GVWR of 9995 lbs. For a motor home I believe you can get a CDL with restrictions but if your trailer GVWR is over 10'000 lbs you must have a CDL. This is the 4th dump trailer we've bought and most of the dump trailers in CA are sold with a GVWR of 5 or 10 lbs under 10'000 lbs because a lot of people that buy them don't have a CDL. Trust me, I asked a couple of the dealerships.
@William Bailey This is off of CA. DMV site: (What you can tow with a class C)
A single vehicle with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or less including a tow dolly, if used.
If the towing vehicle weighs 4,000 lbs. or more unladen, you may tow a:
Trailer coach not exceeding 9,000 lbs. gross.
Trailer coach or 5th-wheel travel trailer under 10,000 lbs. GVWR when towing is not for compensation.
5th-wheel travel trailer exceeding 10,000 lbs. but not exceeding 15,000 lbs. GVWR, when towing is not for compensation.
NOTE: No passenger vehicle regardless of weight, may tow more than one vehicle. No motor vehicle under 4,000 lbs. unladen may tow any vehicle weighing 6,000 lbs. or more gross. (CVC §21715)
@William Bailey Also off CA DMV site: Who needs a CDL,
WHO NEEDS A CDL
You Must Have a CDL to Operate:
• Any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight
rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.
• Any single vehicle with a GVWR less than
26,000 pounds which is designed, used, or
maintained to transport more than 10 passengers including the driver.
• A combination vehicle with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more
pounds, provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s)
being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
• Any vehicle that tows any vehicle with a
GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more.
• Any vehicle that tows more than 1 vehicle or
a trailer bus.
Don't Ya love that Ram, I pull a 22.000 pound fifth wheel camper with NO problems.
My 2018 Ram does the same thing on temps. Fan clutch kicks on at + 220 and oil temp is same 222+.Trans never runs hot.Cummins told me it's normal.Seems hot to me.
newer diesels like to run hot to more thoroughly burn the diesel. if my old 6.9 ever got that hot it would warp the heads
@@carsonhammond6204 I did learn that the fan clutch is electronically controlled by the system computer. Have not found a dealership that can change the set point that the fan is engaged though.
Entering a scale in CA has nothing to do with “For Hire” or not. It’s based on vehicle type. “Pickup” trucks are exempt from entering if you are actually driving a “Pickup” by legal definition. CA vehicle code 471 VC clearly defines a “Pickup”, it must have a factory bed and have a GVWR of less than 11,500 lbs. If you purchase a new F350, 3500, etc., that has a GVWR over 11,500 lbs you must enter a scale regardless if the vehicle is used for compensation or not. Additionally, any truck with a service, flatbed, etc. must enter regardless of GVWR. Bypassing a scale can be cited either as an infraction or misdemeanor. They are both moving violation. “Not For hire”
Technically that is true HOWEVER, the CHP will yell at you if you go in without a load or with anything that even looks not commercial.
If you call the main CHP commercial office they will tell you that.
So if not pulling or pulling a regular trailer or RV don’t do it.
Great video
My 06 Duramax Silverado 3500hd pulling about 18k on fift wheel gets up to 235 when fan kicks in. Manual says that its normal for my truck to go 245 but was always worried. Now seeing new truck getting those temperatures under load makes me feel better that the owners manual could be right.
Is your cooling fan coming on? at 219 the fan should come on bringing temps down real fast. are you above 210 on the flat also?
In my state its not a big deal if you have a gooseneck still dont have to weight if its personal load. But this is one reason Ill stick to the bumper pull (pintle hitch 20 ton) trailers. Want a good aftermarket fan get a Hayden one like I have. I have true dual no cats exhaust and when the fan kicks in you cant hear the truck at all.
Our 2004 24 valve with 4:10s runs at 200 degrees with no load
Cars cutting you off, welcome to the everyday life of a truck driver.
Trucks cutting you off to avoid losing 2mph of momentum. Life on I-40.
@@tizoned1 I never drive on the I-40 and 2mph doesn't make a difference to a truck or a car.
Pick up truck driver be clear.
@@travis3676 ?
@@ericjohnson6912 just making sure the hot shot term does not go to their head.
Makes no sense for the fan to have any impact when driving above say 25 mph. There is no way it is going to pull more air than the vehicle speed. 6.7's run hotter. I seem to recall the factory thermostat is 200 degrees, and the engineers expect it to swing under load. This feels like how our oil pressure gauges stopped reporting real time pressure, and now report sampled averages.
I hauled campers for a few years.... Cali doesn't want any commercial pickup trucks unless it's a permitted load in their scale houses.... they will however oblige you in worst terms should you decide to "go in".
I own and operate a light duty hotshot business and believe me I get cut off by retards in small cars all the time. People don't think or they assume you can stop on a dime with a big trailer behind you. Besides crappy weather, idiot drivers are the only thing that makes pulling a big trailer stressful.
110% agree with that! I like the old back roads where no one is when im towing lol
stay safe out there! thanks for watching
My understanding is with recent MVC law changes, the "NOT FOR HIRE" or "PRIVATE" signs or lettering is now a red flag. If the vehicle being hauled is in your name, you don't even need DOT numbers because your not engaged in commerce.
put a bigger exhaust on it and that will help with motor temps
According to CA DMV you can be considered commercial. Depending on weight and length would a commercial license. Was made to get mine. No problem.
Word of warning. In the state of California the max speed for any vehicle towing is 55.
😂 so many comments on this. Dang. Semi didn’t care that passed me down the hill
I don’t know about the states but up in Canada you don’t need to stop into scales if you don’t have commercial plates
California has a State CDL for personal use that depends on weight, I think Texas does also. Basically if you want to drive something bigger they charge you more money.
Newer trucks run warmer than most are used to for efficiency. Warm engines run cleaner and more efficient.
225 degrees for coolant temps is no big deal in my opinion. The fan on my work truck doesnt kick on till about 205-220. Once it gets to about 250 is when I would start to get concerned.
160-180 degrees trans temp is perfect. I wouldn't sweat it man. That truck can hold it's own. Remember the tow ratings on new trucks is a SAE rating. Which means they are tested and punished to get whatever ratings they put on it. So anything you'll throw at it is child's play compared to what the engineers and testers did to it.
Great vid man. Keep it going!
you should call me I know a bunch of side rows to go around scales especially the one on 80 real easy and fast
I know the side routes but I gotta make a video some how hah
55 while pulling a trailer you’re already illegal you just admitted guilt come on man if your gonna put up a video at least obey the law. Remember you are innocent until proven guilty but the video removes all doubt. thanks for the video keep em coming.
Daniel Neece 55 would be dangerously slow and cause an obstruction in the road. Speed of traffic forced me into it. Lol
V-BELT and SON Man I’ve been saying that for years and it has been proven split speed limits do kill! But thats California. right on brother
Love to see what the egts were all stock like that in the hills
Hott. Good thing we cant see those temps. Lol
This video started in Boomtown where we ride out of with our RZR and now he is going to my home state xD I can recognize that road and gas station.
I did the hot-shot (full legit!) for 11 years before retiring 12/21/19. Yup, 75k mi/yr avg dealing with moron drivers is tough. You just have to adjust your thinking. Go ahead and cuss, but don’t let their idiocy rub off. NEVER adopt their bad behavior. Safety first, last, always.
i guess i missed the whole point as to what should be a problem here. IVe a 30ft dual tandem gooseneck pulled by 1996 ford f250 crew cab diesel 4wd single rear wheels. Ive hauled two Cat D2s from maine, two Cat D2s from oregon, one Cat D4 from montana, new jersey, and ny to alabama, and never crossed a scale or got stopped at any time. At times ive gone to truck stops on my own to be weighed and was a total of 26740 for the whole rig. Never a problem. What am I missing here??
I have driven that stretch of I80 more times than I can count. I Used to live in Truckee.
Did anything happen when you were driving it because nothing happened this fool