241 RSW WV Mando P1 CarvingThe Top Plus Sharpening
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- This is Part 1 of what will be a multi-part series on how I build my custom mandolins. This video also contains many tips as well as sharpening suggestions for finger planes and scrapers as well. Be sure to use a good sound system so you can hear the tap tuning later in the video.
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I forgot to mention on screen that the music was written by Eric Parent and it's also performed by him. Eric was my very first retail mandolin customer a long time ago.
I remember hearing that song in a previous video. It was nice to hear it again. What a wonderful tribute it is to you and your work. Does he have a website where we might be able to hear other tunes he has written?
The Mando P1 is coming to life, this means that we have many more videos to look forward to. It sure is nice to watch the different curves occur while you are scraping. mm
Hi Jerry - I have a 4 yr old grandson who lives near me - it’s a real blessing to have both of our kids - and their kids within a short distance. So many families today are spread apart. My own grandparents lived down the street from me as a kid - I spent more time there than I did at home.
Yes I agree. I am truly blessed.
I always say if a man enjoys his work he is always going to do a better job than someone who does not. Looks like a great start to your mandolin build.
This is one of those times when I wished America had the National Living Treasure award. You'd be a shoe-in: masterful singer, song writer, musician, and master craftsman as a luthier. It's just a joy to watch you work, Jerry. Thank you so much for presenting these videos. God Bless You, and Yours.
agwbcfjc2 Agree strongly
I agree. It makes you appreciate how much care, effort, and time goes into making a truly hand-crafted piece of work. Not to mention what goes into editing and sharing the videos on top!
he can't sing ... great Luthier but the credits stop there I'm afraid ..... also the country he plays is Lame AF....
Great job as usual Jerry! Ignore the negative,as you'll always find that 1% in every crowd!
You always do a non-lazy job brother Jerry
I just got a mental image of Antonio Stradivari using his iPhone to order some Titebond on Amazon! 🤣 Love these videos!
Great series Jerry you are the Mastercraftman with a lot of tips,Cheers hope you had a great weekend.
Heck yeah, another custom build to watch. I'm always amazed at how well you shape your wood and how quickly it progresses into a finished piece Jerry. Also, your tool demonstrations, how you prep then employ them is always very informative.
I'll be happily following this build to completion and look forward to the final playing demo. Good health to you and family Jerry!
The Veritas palm planes are made in a set of four,...flat, concave, convex, and double convex. Veitas tools are first rate, though far from inexpensive, they are usually very much worth the expense. In 2020 Canadian dollars, they are $89.00 each, and $299. for the set of four.
Great video, it's always interesting to watch you bring a piece of wood to life!
Great detailed process of carving ! Well done Jerry BTW I put my centesimal tuner as you hit the Top and the note was a C4 when you were done on one side and D4 when you were half way of the other side. Final note seems close to D#
Most of the time they work out to a d-sharp when I'm completely finished with the braces and the f-holes.
Definitely a nice deep tone. I think there's more work in building a mandolin than an acoustic guitar. You do build them both beautifully.
That's precisely why the mandolins cost so much. There's a ton of work in them.
Rosa String Works I see and agree.
I sure wouldn't worry about how everyone else says you should be making your products. You do amazing work. There's a reason the old masters did the work the way they did. It may because that's all they had but if they had the current technology they'd probably not use It. You make a work of art and have obviously become a master in the field. I wouldn't change a single thing. Looking forward to hearing this mandolin as well as the guitar that's getting close to being finished. Incredible videos!
A great learning experience Doc. As I have said for years and as I have said for years, experience is NOT transferable! Thanks for sharing your knowledge & skills!
So happy to see another video so soon after the last - thanks! Looks like it's going to be a great Mandolin - I'm sure the lucky customer will love it!
Wow, nice detail on this top. Thanks.
I've mentioned in videos how I used to use glass back in the day to profile necks and people couldn't believe anything so primitive lol but ity's a fact and worked, people really have some strange opinions! good work here Jerry!
I sure do like these series video's. Just wish this mandolin was mine and I played good enough to do it justice. Maybe someday.
I agree with the commenter, Jerry. You are so lazy that you won't even go to the trouble of driving down to the music store and buying a "fair to middlin'" mandolin. You just sit back and make your own masterpiece. Duhhhh! I thought I was the only wood worker who would buy a tool, and redo it to fit my hand. Case in point, a hand saw. Reset the teeth, resharpened them then reshaped the handle to fit my hand before I even used it. You have a great and for the rest of us , a much appreciated day! Regards, Solomon
Yet another case of "Edge Pattern Baldness". Nice episode, nice plane. (BTW, Lee Valley will gladly sell you a toothed blade for highly figured wood.)
I got one with the plane.
Great as always! Thanks Jerry!
Strad would probably use CNC as well as titebond. Seriously though, I think fish glue is great. Best of both worlds.
Jerry in a up coming video could tell us how many mandolins you have made in your career and guitar's also thanks! jim.
Yep, there is something about hand carving a top and back that is very satisfying. And painful. I bought the Varitas palm planer like you have there with both toothed and regular blades. Also borrowed an Ibex from my Mando building buddy Jack. I prefer the Ibex but bought the palm plane because of the same finger pain you mention. Also not happy with the radius on the Varitas, seems to extreme. I'm going to make the same mods on mine that you did. Thanks for experimenting Jerry. The es-335 copy I built took me 12 hours each front AND back to carve, OUCH.
Nice work
When you were tapping at the end of the video I checked it with my Peterson through job speaker got a B flat reading ,great
It's always good to tap tune a top to a note other than an open string that is on the instrument. I haven't checked the note myself yet. However it will change after the f-holes are made and the braces are attached. At that time I will try to carve it to a note that does not live on the open strings. The reason for that is so that you don't have one string that is so much hotter than the others.
Wow !!! Does that have good sound!!!
Jerry I think your mike did a good job of recording the sustain. It seemed to me that the finger snap was right at the very end of the perceptible note. Great stuff. Enjoyed this video immensely.
Jerry Bud... if I was Stradivarius, I would send you a big bag of hide glue... LOL. BTW I use Titebond myself... wink
Hey Jerry, can you tell us how you REALLY feel about hide glue? ;-) Looks like you are off to a grand start, this will be fun to watch :-) (And this drummer says it sounds great already!)
One day perhaps you could show use how one sharpens the blade on such a small plane. Great video regardless.
Hi Jerry;
I'm in the middle of watching you carve your top. It occured to me that if you left the blade in while you ground the radius on the bottom of the plane and sharpened it after changing the radius they would match better. Just a note, I fully understand your hollow grind sharpening method, but am not good at it yet. Understanding it and doing it are a lot different. Experience really counts with that.
I have some round bottom planes and they haven't worked well for me yet. I think I will try to accomplish your hollow grind sharpening and tweaking the bottom like you did to see if I can make them work better for me. I also bought some carving chisels with handles similar to your little round bottom plane's handle. They arrived as dull as a chisel can be and still be called a chisel. I'm also going to experiment on them with the hollow grind.
I love to watch your videos. I don't think I have ever seen better workmanship than yours, or more practical methods. Lord bless you and yours.
P. S. Just a little info for you, I can see the grooves very well on my screen. Your camera picks up the details very well.
VERY COOL Gerry Would if you drilled 2 divots on the sides of the plane make a palm yoke same kinda ball or like a pc mouse but the plane glides on a pivot it'll never gouge in hard for your finishing touches, Sorry forget if name is with G or a J.
Love the work. Have you ever done a uke like this if so do you have a video?
I have not built a Uke from scratch.
Hey Jerry, happy Memorial Day Weekend! So I took your advice on bending the sides from your previous video and I am happy with the result. Thankfully I had told the wood supplier it was my first build and he was nice enough to give me an extra 3 pieces of side material so I had plenty of chances to practice. I ended up having a couple of cracks around the scroll and inside the waist as the maple was very highly figured, but I have it in the mold now and the blocks and linings are in so now it is onto carving the top. From what I can tell, there are a TON of ways to do this, but I like your method of using hand tools as I feel there is less chance for a one-time catastrophic error haha and I’m not in any rush. It seems from your several videos on carving the top that you do it all freehand. Did you ever use contour lines and such when you first started out? I’m not sure I have the confidence to just start hacking away with no points of reference.
Yes I did use some Contours to just get the rough shapes. Anymore I just do it by eye.
Rosa String Works I figured as much. I'm sure at this point you've done so many you can just "see" where you need to go. Thank you for doing these videos. For some of us they're not just for entertainment!
If I win the lottery I’ll commission you to build a Rosa archtop guitar.
Surely they aren't that expensive, I'm hoping to get one made for someone by Christmas 2021. I should be doing pretty well financially by then, though not lottery winning pretty well.
Hi Jerry, This is really a good video. Very educational. Jerry, If you could choose any wood that you wanted. Which wood would you prefer to build a flat top guitar and a mandoline? You do really do great work. I hope you had fun picking your grandson up from school. Both of you will always remember that special day. I hope you and your family have a blessed week.
Well that's actually a really tough question. I suppose for the tops of both instruments I would use Adirondack spruce. For the back of the mandolin the traditional wood is Curly Maple and I'm good with that. I like Sycamore real well for the back of a mandolin too. For the guitar it would either be Rosewood or padouk though I'm sure there are plenty of other very good choices in the hardwoods that could be used for a guitar.
Hi Jerry, Thank you for responding to my post. (I know you are very busy)> I just wanted your thoughts on the wood. I know you would know the best woods. Thank you. I hope you have a very Blessed week.
Very hard work ... I imagine if you do an archtop guitar , it will be take eternity , no?
cant wait to watch it unfold jerry.. i am formerly a fine artist all my life gifted as some say artisticly an most mediums ive tried ive excelled at better than average or better than example an your work is inspiring i want to build a mando very badly acutualy ...i can carve the top with you an your insight ....BRAVO on that mando top i know it is far from completion but as a artist i for see the end early and like a kid am antisipating the next episode ....one question are dementions on body bout sizes crucial i know the sound board an backside are ? mainly because i would like to alter the body shape a little to make it custom?an does the materials in construction apply like in acoustic guitars or should i say tone wood ...your tap testing is proof in the pie im not opening up no can of worms on tone wood subjectivity or anything around it just for other readers ,but i would like to try making one with ashwood ...
The main problem with making an odd size or shape is that you may find a case that will fit it. Obviously size and shape does affect the sound also.
thank you for your reply jerry... is ash ok for a mando though? i love the tiger stripe like grain,, but havent seen it used much ...your thoughts?...i have a select pile of white ash flatsawn?
You carved a bass top with a skill saw. OK. Interesting. PLEASE DON'T EVER DO THAT AGAIN!
Don't even tell that story again. I'm going to have nightmares.
Seriously, your skill is amazing. If I had tried that I would only be able to count to 9 today.
I've been sharpening my chisels with your technique and it works great.
Have you got a good method for sharpening drill bits that you can teach us?
I probably could show you a good method for drill bits. I'm able to do a very good job with those much better than the dang Drill Doctor that I bought.
headphones on, love it.
Hi, like the video! I'm curious as to what species of Spruce and Maple use are using?
Adirondack spruce. Curly red maple.
Thanks for the quick reply, enjoy the holiday weekend!
I know I've only built 2 mandolins and neither that good and have been around when a fiddle or two has been taken apart. What I've noticed is that tapping like this is kinda like thumping a watermelon. If you can pick a perfectly good watermelon, you can tap a top. It's like there's a natural frequency with plants that they vibrate to.
There's a lot to it. How you hold it when you tap it is a big part of it. How you tap it is also a part of it.
@@RosaStringWorks Must be why Roger Siminoff sells a DVD on the topic.
Hi Jerry. Ive seen a technique where one drills a bunch of holes to the correct depth and then start carving and scraping until the holes disappear. Ever tried that? Anyway.. love your videos, man!
I have definitely seen and heard of that. I don't really see how that would do much for me. I think it would be incredibly difficult to drill them in a curved surface to the exact thicknesses required. Though I could see drilling them to a depth less than needed as a way to stop before you went to thin. But that would only be necessary if you were removing the would buy some other mechanical means. Removing the wood with a finger plane, there's not much danger of going too thin.
Lee Valley makes 4 different shapes on that design, flat-concave-convex-double convex.. not sure which you have...maybe the double convex, just a bit too curved. Here is a link to the 4. www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=67716&cat=1,230,41182
have you ever made a bowlback mandolin?
No I haven't. I have repaired many of them though. In the genre of music that I'm into, that particular kind of mandolin is not used.
i hope someone orders one from you. that would make an interesting series of videos :)
Why do I suspect that Jerry may want to get a fingerless glove and sew a leather palm pad into it for use with his new plane.
It actually was no problem. It didn't cause any stress in my hand at all.
jerry ... please look at the lens wehen addressing us ...you'll appear far more sincere .. i said this months ago ...
You will just have to go somewhere else I'm sorry. I have to watch the screen to see that it's focused. This is not Hollywood and it never will be. I make no apologies.
Don't like to hear the term "dumb comment" . . . you ask the viewers to comments, then give them respect, whether your agree or disagree. Great video otherwise.
I don't like to be called lazy either.
Any viewer who has followed your videos, can clearly see that you are run off your feet . . . people who are jealous of your limitless talents will always try to needle you, don't take the bait.