Stop saying hbox wasn't playing at his best. He made grand finals so he's obviously still playing well. In melee you can make your opponent look like they suck by outplaying them, which is exactly what mango did. Good shit to mango. PP wya
I really like how Mango was just serious the whole time. He had that poker face the whole time and was just focusing on winning. It was top-notch mango play.
He literally HAS to play super disciplined against Hbox and even Armada most of the time. Hbox and Armada are getting exceptionally better at countering Mango's playstyle so he has to pull back and be more patient.
+56mdk that's fine to say if you're not a fan the game in general, but if you have a smasher you favor then your word means shit. also what's with the random periods? that.shit.is.annoying.
Can we talk about how goddamn fast this was for GRAND FINALS at such a huge tournament? Especially since Hbox was in it? Usually Hbox makes these games take a lot longer than this, but Mang0 wasn't fucking having it. Holy shit, watching this live was amazing...
Mang0 was definitely on-point with his Fox. It would have taken perfect Hbox to beat him. Even then, that wasn't Mang0's best Fox either. Mang0 clearly wanted this win more.
I feel like I'm the only one still cheering for HBox during these matches. Not that I don't want the GOAT to get his glory, but I find HBox's progress over the last year or so to be absolutely remarkable, and his Puff is strangely easy on the eyes. That, and watching him pop off is fun. I don't know, I just feel like early 2016 everyone wanted to see him do well, and now we've come full circle where most people hate him again.
+Eric Hellgren some of them are over the top dramatic shit and the best example of one is him popping off after beating leffen at I think evo 2015. Him kissing his gf and pounding the TV ? lol it wasn't even grand finals. That was super cringey.
Yes. The pop offs are cringey and also very annoying, when he loses it's very cringey on how he makes it very dramatic. Just take the W and the L and say gg my dude.
its not that he didn't want to try, it's that because he won evo and took a break for a month from smash he's not gonna stress too hard if he doesn't win this time. He definitely was trying, but as we all saw he missed tons of edgeguards and rests that a prime hbox would never miss, probably due to him being out of practice. And instead of getting angry or tilting, hbox just shrugged it off. At wtfox 2, hbox got tilted mad hard and he mentioned in an evo interview that there's no point in getting tilted like that when you're losing because you'll just do worse, so he's gonna try to stop doing that. And besides, hbox doesn't even need to stress too hard right now. I mean mango was CHILLIN after his evo 2014 win, he lost all the tournaments he went to after that since he was just fooling around with falcon, until big house 4 when it really mattered. I'm sure hbox will do the same, not stress too hard until the big boy tournaments like big house, smash summit 3, dreamhack winter, and shine.
Thank you a lot for the early uploads vgc, but i feel that making the videos more long (even with a black screen) would've been good. as it is now once you watch one or two games you can already say who's gonna win
OCEAN MAN 🌊 😍 Take me by the hand ✋ lead me to the land that you understand 🙌 🌊 OCEAN MAN 🌊 😍 The voyage 🚲 to the corner of the 🌎 globe is a real trip 👌 🌊 OCEAN MAN 🌊 😍 The crust of a tan man 👳 imbibed by the sand 👍 Soaking up the 💦 thirst of the land 💯
*Hungrybox outplays Mango, Mango fans praise Mango and shit on Hungrybox* *Mango outplays Hunrgrybox, Mango fans praise Mango and shit on Hungrybox* Yep, that's about what I expect.
This year is crazy. #1 player could literally go to anyone. While it does lean slightly more into Hbox's favor because of him attending so many events and winning Evo, I still think its a toss up between him, Mango, Armada, and if Leffen comes back really strong by TBH6.
Tomoki -San From my understanding, it hasn't been "finalized" yet but at the very latest, it should be done by the end of this year. I'm pretty sure it'll be done before TBH6.
I don't think I've ever seen hbox miss so many rest options, I sure hope hbox doesn't get complacent at the top. With all that being said, mango was clearly playing out of his mind here.
Mango shut him down. Hbox had no answers at all. He was so desperate to get a game but he didn't get close. Mangos mentality was pristine and his movement and gameplay was that of the gods.
Aden Oooo we got a tough guy over here. The comments are where fans discuss shit it's not like we're emailing this shit to him. Self important kiddies like you are funny.
I know I might be the only one, but knowing who wins the tournament just based on the timer and who's in loser kinda ruins the set sometimes. either way the matches were amazing
I use a browser plugin called Anticipation for TH-cam/Twitch. It essentially removes the time on videos and you don't know how far into the video you're in or even how long the video is. You can enable it and disable it anytime you want.
I feel bad for HBox. He was clearly playing under his normal level, missing most of the upair smash DI and getting caught constantly. He even missed a good number of edge guards. Props to Mango who played super well, but I think we saw a lesser HBox than usual. It just shows how the gods are all on fairly equal footing.
He very clearly wasn't. Mango was just playing at his best, and his best usually demolishes hbox. How do people not realize that you mess up more when someone is fucking you up. He didn't start the match "playing under his normal level", he started getting caught more because he couldn't keep up from the get go, and that gets to you.
Dawg. You and I both know HBox was going easy on him out of pity. No butt seriously Mang0 played very well. It seemed like Mang0 was choosing a new timing for his ledge gaurds and the added movement from moonwalks were throwing off HBox major. That being said, I actually also believe HBox was a little soft, and bruh; 6-9 for the season. Mang0 is taking his suite time to "demolish hbox".
If HBox won 3-0 instead of mango you probably wouldn't be saying that lol. HBox was playing horrible, kept missing his simple stuff. Mango was playing amazing though, but I don't consider it a super high level set unless both players are on point.
I like Hbox and im not a Mango fanboy at all lol, i wouldnt say Hbox played horribly, i mean, he was facing the goat playing one of the best sets of his life, and even if this was 3-0 he showed some great skill (spacing. tech skill) and he gave some battle, also im not a veteran of melee at all, so my opinion probably is pretty bad, but to me the skill displayed here by Mango and Hbox (even losing 3-0) was amazing.
Hbox was off a bit, but Mang0 was playing amazing. Hbox would have had to turn it up two notches and stood the entire time to beat this Mang0. Not the highest level I've seen out of either player.
I feel bad for d1 during this event. At the smash masters tourney, the other commentators referred to him as the "Melee Expert" and chat was spamming "d1 melee expert?? LUL" or something. He's been commentating for years on melee, had one of the best commentating duos with prog, but since he commentates S4 too he isnt a melee expert. .
When hbox wins: "puff carries him. He doesn't deserve this." When hbox loses: "puff is such a bad character. he deserves the loss." This is some of the most tilt-inducing sit right here.
It's just like what people say about falco. They lose: Falco is broken! He's so easy!! They win: Falco is clearly the worst top tier. Why don't you just play Fox? I think there's a couple problems. For one, I think we tend to aggregate reactions, even though they're coming from distinct people. Additionally, I think people don't do a good job of ranking viability. They talk about ease of winning, which is slightly different.
Why do people think that everyone who hates on Hbox is automatically apart of Mango's gay ass fan club? There are Mew2King, Armada, Leffen, and PPMD fans who dislike Hbox just as much as anybody else.
In conclusion: -HBox didnt play well (when he stands up is because he is nervous) -Mango played out of his fucking mind -Some Mang0 fanboys are still toxic
Wrong.... Hbox stands up aaaalllll the time and the reason is because it has scientifically been proven that (in general) when you sit down.. Your body shuts off. It stops sending as much blood to the brain and there is less blood flow throughout the body in general. Standing up keeps you attentive and alert. That's why he stands up when he is mentally being outplayed.
+Mach02 Mike It makes sense, but the reason I said he was nervous or anxious is because on last Evo, he did not stood up once in between battles, and on an interview he admitted that he and his coach were training patience a lot. Seeing him standing up is like a bad habit
Actually a great match even with Hbox getting stomped. It was fairly clear, at least going by his expressions, that he knew he was losing to superior play. Mango's a champ though, being so chill about it and not demoralizing Hbox.
Mango still used lasers a lot here, but I know what you mean. It seems like he had a nice blend of aggressiveness mixed with good lasering when Hbox was just out of reach. He played really safe at Evo and Hbox dominated him, glad to see Mango's using his more aggressive style in this set.
Holy crap! Mang0 was damn frightening here! Look at his face; I don't think he's satisfied at all even though he won in dominant fashion. I haven't seen this determined side of him since MLG 2014. Let's hope he can keep at it.
edged out by solid reads. fun set to watch. Kind of annoyed that hbox made facial expression that seemed like he wanted to convey that he wasnt trying. Mango played better that day. Tech skill was solid & his reads were for sure landing him a lot strong punishes/kills. regardless of missed edge guards, hbox got outplayed the majority of the set.
1. To the people saying Mang0 was playing amazing: You have not seen or have forgotten what amazing Mang0 looks like. Mang0 dialed to 11 is an unstoppable monster of destruction. 2. To the people hating on Hbox saying this is proof he's not #1 this year: This was not even his EVO level play. He was obviously not in top form at all. Had he been in top form, it would have taken the monster Mang0 to beat him. Y'all need to watch more smash, because you're making noob comments.
Only a complete fucking shitter couldn't see how well they were playing. And how well they think they were playing is completely irrelevant. "Feelings" mean absolutely dick in most circumstances. Anyone who thinks either player was at their best straight needs to watch more fucking melee.
I actually think this set was probably the best Mango has played this year. There wasn't too much dick-swinging flashiness that you'd come to expect from a Mango that's feeling himself too much -- that's the kind of play that gets him trounced by an on-point Hbox or Armada. Instead, he played intelligently and paced himself well, making sure he didn't burn himself out, or make any stupid decisions midway through the set. His footsies were immaculate, his followups were sensible, and his tech was clean. He mixed up his recovery well, he DI'ed Hbox's followups excellently, and he read Hbox pretty hard in some moments. It was like watching early 2014 Mango again, except with two years worth of tech and meta advancements.
I'd say perhaps the most consistent I've seen him play in quite some time. I don't go out of my way to watch Mang0 play, but I've seen a few times when he's just nigh unstoppable. Whether he can keep that up for a whole set, I don't know. Probably not, as these absolute beasts moments don't last for longer than a few minutes.
Funny how hbox tried to get them to stop clapping x) . C'mon hbox youre a god and still cant play comfortably in a competitive environment. CAN'T STOP THE CROWD
don't really care much for hbox but I fukn hate the dreamland clapping too. I dunno when it started and which group of individuals started at whatever tournament but damn u....that is all
Man idunno about you but those claps are distracting as fuck, and when there's thousands of dollars on the line I would not want any distractions from keeping me focused. And it's also really annoying, especially when the crowd are off rhythm like they were
+Ivan Revi gotta admit the rhythm was bothering me too x) . But still the crowd is pretty hype right now and as the top player (as if right now) he should be able to adjust to these types of environments. I know performing in front of a huge audience is already hard enough but cmon spectators are gonna be spectators.
THANK YOU VGBOOTCAMP FOR THE EARLY UPLOAD
I guess their Patreon really helped
ikr
They're only getting around $300 a month
Stop saying hbox wasn't playing at his best. He made grand finals so he's obviously still playing well. In melee you can make your opponent look like they suck by outplaying them, which is exactly what mango did. Good shit to mango. PP wya
WATCHING HBOX GETTING FUCKED UP IS THE BEST THING
His exaggerated celebrations are cringy.
up-throw up-air up-throw up-air up-throw up-air. real hype 20xx ftw
+tokanite back air, back air, back air , back air, real hype 666xx fte
so tru tho lmao
amen
This is what happens when Hbox tries to live like Mang0 and be Drunkbox...
There can be only one master of the drunken arts.
hahahaha
And that master is.... Drunk2king
mangos hands are movin at that DBZ speed
At Sonic's speed xD
DBZ speed is beyond Sonic speed
isn't he married?
No just shut up.
saymehname lol wtf
I really like how Mango was just serious the whole time. He had that poker face the whole time and was just focusing on winning. It was top-notch mango play.
This was so far from an even set for Grands. I'm honestly baffled with how disciplined mang0 played, and how much it pressured Hbox.
That 4th in EVO prolly hit em hard
He literally HAS to play super disciplined against Hbox and even Armada most of the time. Hbox and Armada are getting exceptionally better at countering Mango's playstyle so he has to pull back and be more patient.
hbox losing to mango
all is right in the world again.
+Noel Ramos what's the difference between rooting for a player and sports team... Sorry this game has fans
56mdk yeah sorry, i didnt understand that
+56mdk I just. Meant being a mango fan isn't. That Different from being a Philadelphia Eagles fan
+56mdk that's fine to say if you're not a fan the game in general,
but if you have a smasher you favor then your word means shit.
also what's with the random periods?
that.shit.is.annoying.
+Noel Ramos in all honestly my phones keyboard the space bar is exetremely small and next to the period and I'm too lazy to delete them. I apologize
chucklefuck
love your pic dude
***** Thank you.
"i hope im not a chucklefuck"
+Pickle Inajar echo fox m2k is koo
RIP Mikey
Can we talk about how goddamn fast this was for GRAND FINALS at such a huge tournament? Especially since Hbox was in it? Usually Hbox makes these games take a lot longer than this, but Mang0 wasn't fucking having it. Holy shit, watching this live was amazing...
stfu gay brony lmfao
squiddw3r That is funny coming from a dude with Spongebob as his profile picture.
squiddw3r That's too bad, bro, I don't take orders from insecure internet tough guys.
Mang0 was definitely on-point with his Fox. It would have taken perfect Hbox to beat him. Even then, that wasn't Mang0's best Fox either. Mang0 clearly wanted this win more.
Hbox has him beat in grand finals speed runs tho Kappa if i remember right the gfs at EGLX between mango and hbox only lasted like 9 minutes.
Good stuff from Mang0. It's nice to see Hbox get taken down a few notches every once in a while.
hbox getting rekt is very good for a change. He deserved evo but you gotta put a limit to it.
You don't have to put a limit to it lol
The one guy that doesn't play Fucks McCuck doesn't deserve to win apparently.
Melee players, everyone.
+Joseph Terry what even is this comment?
+Krok Crok You don't have to, I like Hbox as well ;)
I just don't enjoy jigglypuff that much, so I'd prefer to balance the amount of puff.
I feel like I'm the only one still cheering for HBox during these matches. Not that I don't want the GOAT to get his glory, but I find HBox's progress over the last year or so to be absolutely remarkable, and his Puff is strangely easy on the eyes. That, and watching him pop off is fun. I don't know, I just feel like early 2016 everyone wanted to see him do well, and now we've come full circle where most people hate him again.
hungrybox pop offs are very cringey
idk why everyone says that, i feel like if i was a top player and made hype ass plays the way they do id pop off even harder than hbox does
he pops off too often, he popped off like twice per set every set he played at top 8 at evo, we get youre from florida but chill dude
+Eric Hellgren some of them are over the top dramatic shit and the best example of one is him popping off after beating leffen at I think evo 2015. Him kissing his gf and pounding the TV ? lol it wasn't even grand finals. That was super cringey.
Yes. The pop offs are cringey and also very annoying, when he loses it's very cringey on how he makes it very dramatic. Just take the W and the L and say gg my dude.
not gonna lie it looked like hbox didn't care
he prob thought "smh i won evo why should i even try"
Funny, because usually Hbox standing up is a definite sign he's trying his hardest.
***** ^
+Jimmithy Winterbear That's actually a compliment, considering he won Evo sitting.
still riding the evo train lmaooo
its not that he didn't want to try, it's that because he won evo and took a break for a month from smash he's not gonna stress too hard if he doesn't win this time. He definitely was trying, but as we all saw he missed tons of edgeguards and rests that a prime hbox would never miss, probably due to him being out of practice. And instead of getting angry or tilting, hbox just shrugged it off. At wtfox 2, hbox got tilted mad hard and he mentioned in an evo interview that there's no point in getting tilted like that when you're losing because you'll just do worse, so he's gonna try to stop doing that.
And besides, hbox doesn't even need to stress too hard right now. I mean mango was CHILLIN after his evo 2014 win, he lost all the tournaments he went to after that since he was just fooling around with falcon, until big house 4 when it really mattered. I'm sure hbox will do the same, not stress too hard until the big boy tournaments like big house, smash summit 3, dreamhack winter, and shine.
Sucks to see Hbox make such uncharacteristic mistakes, but Mang0 still played out of his mind. GG
Hbox drops edge gaurds all the time! Kappa
*S C R I P T*
Thank you a lot for the early uploads vgc, but i feel that making the videos more long (even with a black screen) would've been good. as it is now once you watch one or two games you can already say who's gonna win
HungryBox standing up is his final form 😂😂 also Mang0 mai boi made me go hype with those 3 Uairs out of the Rest punish 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱👌👌👌👌👌
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Yes the match was great! It's more fun to see this rather than 40 min of bair
good stuff to Mang0! Felt like Hbox didn't play his best here
First time after evo 15 mango vs hbox set was intense. Mangos play looked fresh af
Leffen repeating Mango's dominance in this grand finals, three years later at SSC2019.
and people said Hbox was the best after his shitty win at Evo. LET'S GO MANG0!!1!!
Evo>Super Smash Con
yea we all prefer bo3 grand finals, evo is a shit tournament. if it wasn't so huge, no one would probably compete
oops and by that i mean bo5 gf and bo3 top32 xd
but seeing hbox get shit on in bo5 is so much more satisfying
+AbuOsama29 the other Evos were amazing, 2k16 was absolutely garbage
can you use black screens to extend the video time? such a short video spoils the set :c
boo hoo
+Lebo why're you trying to mock the guy if he has a perfectly legit reason? lmfaoo
Hbox has not been sdi-ing any of the up-throw up-airs that he used to sdi earlier in the year
OCEAN MAN 🌊 😍 Take me by the hand ✋ lead me to the land that you understand 🙌 🌊 OCEAN MAN 🌊 😍 The voyage 🚲 to the corner of the 🌎 globe is a real trip 👌 🌊 OCEAN MAN 🌊 😍 The crust of a tan man 👳 imbibed by the sand 👍 Soaking up the 💦 thirst of the land 💯
whoa that was fast
*Hungrybox outplays Mango, Mango fans praise Mango and shit on Hungrybox*
*Mango outplays Hunrgrybox, Mango fans praise Mango and shit on Hungrybox*
Yep, that's about what I expect.
Mango was straight business this tourney. I love how when he gets that final upair, Hungrybox's fist comes into frame. lol
It took a while for Mang0 to notice, you could see the snake venom pulsating through his blood.
I bet Mango thought he still more to play.
+EonKnight321 Probably used to resetting the bracket lol
GREAT JOB ON THE UPLOAD SPEED
This year is crazy. #1 player could literally go to anyone. While it does lean slightly more into Hbox's favor because of him attending so many events and winning Evo, I still think its a toss up between him, Mango, Armada, and if Leffen comes back really strong by TBH6.
has leffen gotten his traveling ordeal figured out?
Tomoki -San From my understanding, it hasn't been "finalized" yet but at the very latest, it should be done by the end of this year. I'm pretty sure it'll be done before TBH6.
5:43 camera panning to where hungrybox got usmashed to.
had to wacth this on .5 cause im too high, HIGHly recommended!!!! try it out!! you just might like it!
-Legoman
so quicc, thx gimr
Hbox and Mango Grand Finals? That never happened before!
Yeah usually it's Loser's Finals to decide who gets to face off against Armada in Grand Finals.
+Troy Cole no it isn't. There's been a ton more hbox and mang0 GF than them struggling In losers
M2K vs Hungrybox was already amazing, but this .. melee once again getting to another level :) gg
I don't think I've ever seen hbox miss so many rest options, I sure hope hbox doesn't get complacent at the top. With all that being said, mango was clearly playing out of his mind here.
Mango shut him down. Hbox had no answers at all. He was so desperate to get a game but he didn't get close. Mangos mentality was pristine and his movement and gameplay was that of the gods.
i really think hbox gets intimidated by mango sometimes when he plays him, making him lose focus
Maybe after that first 3-0 he was demoralized.
Let the man come up with his own johns, he doesn't need his retarded fans to do it for him.
Aden Oooo we got a tough guy over here. The comments are where fans discuss shit it's not like we're emailing this shit to him. Self important kiddies like you are funny.
Lorenzo Reyes word lmao, like i just said something and this boy wants to eat my brain already 💀 wtf
its cool though Yeah let's not hate on him anymore though he gets enough of that shit from his parents lol
this is so dope thanks gimr
MANGO THE GOAT
I know I might be the only one, but knowing who wins the tournament just based on the timer and who's in loser kinda ruins the set sometimes. either way the matches were amazing
you're not the only one but there isn't anything that can be done about it besides watching it live.
+KiroMatic I've seen in other games the video will go longer and just have a filler picture so you don't know who wins
soames that's very stupid and I'm pretty sure against terms of service.
+KiroMatic I agree but still fixes that guys problem
I use a browser plugin called Anticipation for TH-cam/Twitch. It essentially removes the time on videos and you don't know how far into the video you're in or even how long the video is. You can enable it and disable it anytime you want.
The REAL EVO champ.
He'll be back, he's always back...
I feel bad for HBox. He was clearly playing under his normal level, missing most of the upair smash DI and getting caught constantly. He even missed a good number of edge guards. Props to Mango who played super well, but I think we saw a lesser HBox than usual. It just shows how the gods are all on fairly equal footing.
yeAh man i wanted him to win and shit but a close match overall is what i wanted
I feel like we've seen a lesser mango more times, but yeah Hbox was a little off. I also think mango was in overdrive too
He very clearly wasn't. Mango was just playing at his best, and his best usually demolishes hbox. How do people not realize that you mess up more when someone is fucking you up. He didn't start the match "playing under his normal level", he started getting caught more because he couldn't keep up from the get go, and that gets to you.
Aden Wrong. When HBox is playing well, he gets the smash DI on upair. He doesn't die at 65% 8 times in a set with only 1 smash DI.
Dawg. You and I both know HBox was going easy on him out of pity. No butt seriously Mang0 played very well. It seemed like Mang0 was choosing a new timing for his ledge gaurds and the added movement from moonwalks were throwing off HBox major. That being said, I actually also believe HBox was a little soft, and bruh; 6-9 for the season. Mang0 is taking his suite time to "demolish hbox".
Holy shit, this was amazing, props to Mango and Hbox, this was probably the highest level of meele i´ve ever seen.
If HBox won 3-0 instead of mango you probably wouldn't be saying that lol. HBox was playing horrible, kept missing his simple stuff. Mango was playing amazing though, but I don't consider it a super high level set unless both players are on point.
I like Hbox and im not a Mango fanboy at all lol, i wouldnt say Hbox played horribly, i mean, he was facing the goat playing one of the best sets of his life, and even if this was 3-0 he showed some great skill (spacing. tech skill) and he gave some battle, also im not a veteran of melee at all, so my opinion probably is pretty bad, but to me the skill displayed here by Mango and Hbox (even losing 3-0) was amazing.
Hbox was off a bit, but Mang0 was playing amazing. Hbox would have had to turn it up two notches and stood the entire time to beat this Mang0. Not the highest level I've seen out of either player.
+narutouzumakijoshua you can't just assume what people think. You don't know what this guy would think if mang0 lost 3-0
+narutouzumakijoshua hbox was definitely off that night
the way mango takes a few seconds to snap out of his melee trance at the end of the set. holy shit lol..
The creativity was insane by Mango. those lasers were nice and only safe in that moment, very cool
That was not insane Mang0, but top level play from him none the less.
That wasn't crazy mango, it was smart mango. Which is equally scary.
I feel bad for d1 during this event. At the smash masters tourney, the other commentators referred to him as the "Melee Expert" and chat was spamming "d1 melee expert?? LUL" or something. He's been commentating for years on melee, had one of the best commentating duos with prog, but since he commentates S4 too he isnt a melee expert. .
+Keanu Vaughn He retired I think
D1 Melee expert? LUL nice joke
6 years ago today, here right before GF starts at ssc 2022
same result too
@@epicgamer5122 hella happy for mang
mangos performance here reminds me of his winners run in wtfox 2
Mang0 just secured his place as GOAT in my mind.
Hungrybox is never gonna win EVO ever again, that was the last wake-up call
That dude at 1:58 with the Jigglypuff had must've cried after this set.
I see a few happy comments here tonight. Can Mango turn things around?
I play smash 4 and Melee and those 3 matches probably equal 4-5 smash 4 matches
MANGOOOO LETS FUCKING GO where was this mango at evo??
+DhariusLee nah this mango would not have gotten fucked by plup and hbox
I think EVO Hbox would have taken it, then again, Mang0 was not turned up to 11.
When hbox wins: "puff carries him. He doesn't deserve this."
When hbox loses: "puff is such a bad character. he deserves the loss."
This is some of the most tilt-inducing sit right here.
It's just like what people say about falco.
They lose: Falco is broken! He's so easy!!
They win: Falco is clearly the worst top tier. Why don't you just play Fox?
I think there's a couple problems. For one, I think we tend to aggregate reactions, even though they're coming from distinct people. Additionally, I think people don't do a good job of ranking viability. They talk about ease of winning, which is slightly different.
Who said this? I can't find anyone in the comment section saying this.
it's not about puff, it's about hbox being a bitch
also ngnl season 2 never
+KingHalbatorix nope, when mango played puff aggresively many years ago. he got just as much hate. People just hate puff for no reason.
Infinite64 Well you obviously have not gone through this comment section, nor any comment section of any of hbox's matches.
I hate the MangoNation sometimes. I was rooting for Mango but you guys don't need to be so rude towards Hbox.
lol
Ikr, like cmon. Even mango himself respects HBox now, the nation is too caught up on the past.
hbox sux big dix
+Cole Clary (JediChicken) ya he does
Why do people think that everyone who hates on Hbox is automatically apart of Mango's gay ass fan club? There are Mew2King, Armada, Leffen, and PPMD fans who dislike Hbox just as much as anybody else.
Mango Nation is too funny. Hbox fucking dominating 2016 doesn't mean shit if their precious goat beats him once.
i wish they would just leave the player cam, not zoom in and out constantly
Does anyone know if Mang0 pulled out Marth at all?
return of the goat?
Wow. Mangonation is really up with vengeance since EVO.
melee sucks because it doesnt have dedede in it
dedede is in the dreamland background kappa
shut up melee is obviously good now heck off dedede is ass ok go back to your babby smash 5 kappa
Are you 12? Wait, I checked your videos. It's confirmed.
dedede sandstorm inbound, buckle up buckaroos
In conclusion:
-HBox didnt play well (when he stands up is because he is nervous)
-Mango played out of his fucking mind
-Some Mang0 fanboys are still toxic
Wrong.... Hbox stands up aaaalllll the time and the reason is because it has scientifically been proven that (in general) when you sit down.. Your body shuts off. It stops sending as much blood to the brain and there is less blood flow throughout the body in general. Standing up keeps you attentive and alert. That's why he stands up when he is mentally being outplayed.
+Mach02 Mike nah dude hbox wasn't playing well
+Mach02 Mike It makes sense, but the reason I said he was nervous or anxious is because on last Evo, he did not stood up once in between battles, and on an interview he admitted that he and his coach were training patience a lot. Seeing him standing up is like a bad habit
all mango fan boys are toxic. they're the cancer of this community.
So happy hbox didn't win. Mango went off, those Uairs at the end were nuts.
This is why melee is my favorite anime
Actually a great match even with Hbox getting stomped. It was fairly clear, at least going by his expressions, that he knew he was losing to superior play. Mango's a champ though, being so chill about it and not demoralizing Hbox.
Hbox only winned the EVO cause all fox players have spammed laser , but really more than usual , and I think Mango have understand that
Yang Fei Because he spammed laser , in this game , he played more aggressive and don't really use laser
Mango still used lasers a lot here, but I know what you mean. It seems like he had a nice blend of aggressiveness mixed with good lasering when Hbox was just out of reach. He played really safe at Evo and Hbox dominated him, glad to see Mango's using his more aggressive style in this set.
Holy crap! Mang0 was damn frightening here! Look at his face; I don't think he's satisfied at all even though he won in dominant fashion. I haven't seen this determined side of him since MLG 2014. Let's hope he can keep at it.
Eleven minute grand finals mangoW
Mango was a monster, the destruction.
why didn't armada go to ssc
edged out by solid reads. fun set to watch. Kind of annoyed that hbox made facial expression that seemed like he wanted to convey that he wasnt trying. Mango played better that day. Tech skill was solid & his reads were for sure landing him a lot strong punishes/kills.
regardless of missed edge guards, hbox got outplayed the majority of the set.
1. To the people saying Mang0 was playing amazing: You have not seen or have forgotten what amazing Mang0 looks like. Mang0 dialed to 11 is an unstoppable monster of destruction.
2. To the people hating on Hbox saying this is proof he's not #1 this year: This was not even his EVO level play. He was obviously not in top form at all. Had he been in top form, it would have taken the monster Mang0 to beat him.
Y'all need to watch more smash, because you're making noob comments.
You're pretty good. Think you can read my palm next?
Only a complete fucking shitter couldn't see how well they were playing. And how well they think they were playing is completely irrelevant. "Feelings" mean absolutely dick in most circumstances. Anyone who thinks either player was at their best straight needs to watch more fucking melee.
I actually think this set was probably the best Mango has played this year. There wasn't too much dick-swinging flashiness that you'd come to expect from a Mango that's feeling himself too much -- that's the kind of play that gets him trounced by an on-point Hbox or Armada. Instead, he played intelligently and paced himself well, making sure he didn't burn himself out, or make any stupid decisions midway through the set. His footsies were immaculate, his followups were sensible, and his tech was clean. He mixed up his recovery well, he DI'ed Hbox's followups excellently, and he read Hbox pretty hard in some moments. It was like watching early 2014 Mango again, except with two years worth of tech and meta advancements.
I'd say perhaps the most consistent I've seen him play in quite some time. I don't go out of my way to watch Mang0 play, but I've seen a few times when he's just nigh unstoppable. Whether he can keep that up for a whole set, I don't know. Probably not, as these absolute beasts moments don't last for longer than a few minutes.
>Tells everyone to watch more Melee
>Does not seek out to watch the most popular and one of the most prolific players in the game
Mango is back. That was great play
I witnessed this in the venue earlier today. I almost dropped my drink jumping up and dpwn. Hahaha!
gg to both even though im a hbox fan
you're a fan of an over dramatic player that can only win with rests at 7%?
only reason i like him is cause he mains puff. tbh he is a bit too over dramatic.
+Pineapple nothing is wrong with being happy with winning. Also he's been practicing puff for years I think.
i still like hbox even if he loses
I like this 3 man commentary
it's grand finals why is wobbles there
that no popoff Kreygasm unless he did it off camera
mango just outplayed hbox here. this is no where near neo mode mango you guys must have forgotten genesis 2 or big house 4 mango
Funny how hbox tried to get them to stop clapping x) . C'mon hbox youre a god and still cant play comfortably in a competitive environment. CAN'T STOP THE CROWD
don't really care much for hbox but I fukn hate the dreamland clapping too. I dunno when it started and which group of individuals started at whatever tournament but damn u....that is all
Man idunno about you but those claps are distracting as fuck, and when there's thousands of dollars on the line I would not want any distractions from keeping me focused. And it's also really annoying, especially when the crowd are off rhythm like they were
+Ivan Revi gotta admit the rhythm was bothering me too x) . But still the crowd is pretty hype right now and as the top player (as if right now) he should be able to adjust to these types of environments. I know performing in front of a huge audience is already hard enough but cmon spectators are gonna be spectators.
MANGO does it again 2022
Hbox standing up for the tech chases is max grime
WHAT A BUSTER
that was quick
upload that is and the set too
mango is still wearing flip flops. awesome
Excellant play by Mango. He was all over HBox.
I guess I just need to stop reading comments on videos with Mang0 in it.
D1 is so bad at commentating. Why do they still let him on the mic?
twitch employee privilege kappa
Thats your opinion.
Eggsavore no shit
Now Mang0, you can give half the money to Sfat for this win.
The QUICKEST 3-0
"Get this man a unicycle!"
You think in 10 years this will be seen as noob play? I can't even imagine it.
In other words, 20XX will happen.
he's playing a bit like leffen
Jesus Mango was going off!
Love clean fox play.
WTF MANGO WENT HAM THIS GAME
We needed Waffles to call this
Fuck yeah, Mang0!! West Coast!!
How is fox hype?
it's about the player, man. mango's pretty fun to watch
also how is jiggles hype
10x hyper than Puff the bairstalling champion. Shine grabs and triple up-airs are the best.
Lmao nice bias tbh
Ok @thebeep41
jacobking101 funny how you call me bias and you were bias questioning fox being hype