HOW THE TIMES STABBED JORDAN PETERSON IN THE BACK | the whole story! (2021)
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- Earlier this year, The Times published an article about Jordan Peterson and his daughter Mikhaila, While the Times initially approached them with a desire to celebrate his life and career but also inquire about his recent health issues, the article was clearly a hit piece, determined to destroy his reputation and make him seem like we cannot trust his judgement.
Looking into the situation, both the depth of Peterson's health issues, his journey to getting better thanks to help from his daughter, and the full unedited interview with The Times' Decca Aitkenhead, it made me incredibly sad to see the insensitive article that made it seem that Toxic Masculinity was Jordan Peterson's issue. In this video, I dive into exactly what happened to Jordan Peterson, and why we need to pay attention to his story as well as his treatment by the media.
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- Mikhaila Peterson's Response to The Times Article (and subsequent articles) - • Video
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- Jordan Peterson's Letter to the Times - www.jordanbpeterson.com/blog-...
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Aww thanks ❤️
thank you for saving your dad
13:25 That's so Sweet of you ! , Both of you had succeeded in your respective roles of Father and Daughter !
Your father is a great speaker. He is very calm when talking to people that, i can imagine in his view, utter completly crazy things about topics they probaly dont even understand. And its sad to hear that they TRY TO WIN an argument when he has suffered so much. Nobody goes to someone in a hospital that suffered a carcrash and say stuff like "Werent you aware how dangerouse driving is? Shount have someone like YOU have realized its a bad idea?"
Also his way to explaine things that seems to complex to understand is amazing. When he talks about something he is able to explaine it in a way that makes it seem like common sense. Its always easier to point the finger at someone or something and say its His / Hers / Their fault this and that is like that but the truth is that everything has so many reasons for beeing what it is and he briliantly points that out.
I hope your family is doing better! Greetings from a fan from Germany!
THANK YOU so much for this video!!! I've been watching Jordan Peterson for a year now and I absolutely love him and his family. I can honestly say that he has changed my life for the better. I am in awe of this man for his intelligence, tenacity and unbiased POV in addition to what he has recently gone through. I only hope that I can be there for my father like McKayla has. Everyone needs Jordan Peterson in their life. I❤️JP
Middle aged, white woman from Florida here🇱🇷
You awesome bean!
The fact the Peterson is considered a controversial figure at all says so much about how insane society has become.
Agreed. WTF is so controversial about encouraging people to stop getting dragged down by things they have no real control over and instead focusing on bettering themselves.
He became controversial because he doesn't agree with calling transgender people their preferred pronouns. I kinda disagree with him kinda agree so before you accuse me of whatever. I support JP he really helped me through a dark time and his teaching still help me to this day when I have dark moments.
@@alphacanuck939 Yeah at the very least that was initially why he was controversial. I still don't think his point is particularly unreasonable. My understanding of his point is that if you choose not to call a transgender person by their preferred pronouns you're being an a**hole and you maybe deserve whatever social repercussions might come with that decision. But you are not a lawbreaker for being an a**hole nor should you be one.
@@alphacanuck939 pronouns are there for making language easier not harder. You can maybe ask close people in your life to use some weirdass pronoun of you but the whole world... that's just grandiosity
its because leftists glorify a victim complex. this goes against his message of taking responsibility, initiative and stop complaining and blaming.
Reporter - Were you angry?
JP - No…
Reporter - “why not??!”
JP - “it wouldn’t have been helpful..”
Reporter - Such toxic masculinity 👁👄👁
LITERALLYYYYY
Exactly 😂😂
Seriously, the ridiculous questions that reporter asked were beyond disrespectful, they were downright d^mb and hostile.
I remember one time Peterson cried while recounting a Disney film and my thought was "what a toxic masculine man."
Times: Jordan is cut off from Emotions
Jordan: cries publicly numerous times sharing stories of people he met
Times: he doesn't feel emotions
Jordan: literally talking about how he's been physically and psychologically tortured as a result of bad medication for Depression and Anxiety
That's toxic masculinity for you!
God I hate this newspeak
Times: His philosophy is about being a big manly man
Peterson: No I'm just saying don't make yourself more unhappy by feeling bitter
Times: I see! Peterson's philosophy is about being a big manly man
right? it's so funny how the vision people who hates peterson have on him are based on distorcions made by that type of "journalists", who made look like Jordan is admired because he is a kind of "male alpha, anti-feminine sexist", when he actually teachs how to be vulnerable.
@@juliekring7574 Kathy Newman: So you're saying we should be Big Manly Man?😂
She is a hero.
Edit: His daughter, not the loser journalist
Yes, Mikhaila saved him!!
Loser journalist is emanation of witch in this case.
Agreed 100%! Mikhaila is my hero in other things too, including winning her own illnesses!
She is a hero, I love her and her dad. I even forgive her for being unfairly beautiful. 😍
@@zeldagoblin Those two con artists ran for the hills like the cowards they are. Now they want to tell everybody what victims they are. 😂
Jordan was so calm about it. In this world he has become a role model to many. When he cries you want to cry too.
My heart goes out to Dr. Peterson and his family. True story: In 1987 my cousin and his wife hiked in the Adirondacks for their honeymoon. She was bitten by a woodtick, and weeks later developed severe headaches and debilitating joint pain. Her mind couldn't focus, she fell while walking, and had to quit her job. Many doctors told her it was all in her head, and didn't take her symptoms seriously. Of course, nowadays we know about Lyme Disease, but back then it baffled the medical field. After 3 years of being bedridden, and the doctors saying it was "all in her head", her exasperated husband divorced her. A few years later she was properly diagnosed and got the correct medications, but by that time her ex-husband had remarried. A very sad tale!
Honest Question: The Peterson-Coverage of "Some More News", what Picture does it paint? I dont mean Semantics, i dont mean a specific Second of the video, i mean the overall picture.
Powerful
I had a similar issue of misdiagnosis leading to a doctor claiming things were in my head, and insanely, my undiagnosed condition was vitamin d deficiency. Keep in mind, according to Google, that up to 1 billion people suffer from the condition worldwide. The issue was that my condition was so advanced that I was beginning to have neurological symptoms, since I had sufficient levels of calcium in my blood, but without vitamin d, it doesn't efficiently absorb.
TLDR: If you experience the sudden onset of dizziness, muscle twitches, and anxiety with no history, take some vitamin d supplements. Absolutely go to the doctor just in case, but many people need vitamin d and don't know it.
> "We were diagnosed by medical professionals who said I was going to die" (still alive)
> "Why didn't you take the advice of the medical professionals?"
This is so good
@Nat20 Damage That is something I will admit has come across my mind but didn't want to further that notion, but we are at a point where we need to take this into serious consideration.
Rare disease sufferer and I encountered a similar situation. If you question doctors or even seek second opinions sometimes, you are attacked or sent into the mental health system (because it shows an unhealthy obsession that you spent so much time researching the condition that the doctors don't understand in order to try to save yourself).
It also immensely bothered me that they kept throwing the fact that he went to a clinic in Russia in his face, trying to imply some kind of hypocrisy because he's openly criticized neo-marxism in the past and it just doesn't work that way. Also it presumes that Western North American medicine is somehow the only "correct" place to receive medicine.
@Nat20 Damage That sounds a little far-fetched. They had probably visited several clinics; wouldn't that require all of them to conspire in secret? It's much more likely that they didn't know about his very rare medicinal reaction and screwed it up by mistake. But I will say that it was pretty chilling to hear about the doctor dismissing Mikhaila's suggestions.
@@Sidera17 Someone overlooked the fact that Russia has officially terminated the USSR experiment of marxism 30 years ago.
He repeatedly said the medication prescribed was making things worse - but the writers say it was drug dependency. That's overwhelmingly inappropriate.
@Amanda I'm glad they're so consistent, so much honour and respect [sarcasn]
@Amanda Don't even get started on that - the whole basis that female tennis players' unequal pay (same money, fewer sets) was approved was due to the evidence of the Sharapova, Williams, Kournikova, Wozniaki deals that they were proportinally bringing in more sponsorship and media attention than the men, and therefore deserved "equal" (i.e proportionally more per set/match) payment.
It's not possible to hang your collective hats on media and proportional promotional presence as the reason to be paid more than men for doing less work; then to back one of the players for shirking that promotional and media responsibility. It cuts both ways, so to speak. Mo money = more responsibility. If the responsibilities are too much; the argument for more pay falls down with it.
@@OsellaSquadraCorse Those are actually some pretty decent points that I hadn't considered. Why does women's tennis reward the same amount of money? Surely it should be 3/5ths of it
Probably prescribed by psychologists.... which know shit about clinical conditions or how to deal with the side effects. For clinical conditions, never allow a psychologists or a doctor to prescribe you, let a neurologist or a psychiatrist to do it.
@@Mariet31 Do you have any evidence to back that up or are you just throwing accusations around?
I have akathisia for 7 years now , i was misdiagnosed for 4 years until i figured it out , medication does not work on me , i lost everything in my life including my family and now my liver and heart , i have daily pain since covid began and still have . I am 25.
My respect for this man exploded when i found out and I started crying .
I hope you heal well
Jordan Peterson has been an inspiration to me as a woman and a clinician. I have been through many of the same things. Knowing he survived gives me hope everyday. Also watching his lectures blew my mind and restored my faith. I also notice the irony that I share his wife’s name. Thank you for clearing up this matter. I also advocate for the mentally ill, and people who prescribe the medication often show poor judgment. Few people know of physical dependence that can develop to SNRIs like cymbalta or Effexor.
Peterson did deserve his own Deep-Dive, a Video-Essay just about him. So he got 1, thx to 'Some More News'.
These "journalists" are some of the lowest of the low.
Agreed!
Jordan raised his daughter right when you see how strong she was in the middle of this hell. I have more respect for that family than ever before. Thank you for brilliant and important video!
Mikhaila seemed to be the only person who realized halfway through the times interview about what was actually happening... And who got her father's back. Jp was still acting on the assumption that a good faith conversation was happening.
Yes, exactly!!
@@waywardson7295 Very smart and admirable Woman
Mikhaila is exactly the kind of woman that toxic masculinity could not produce.
That's true. I'd probably torn apart between how to handling my mom who is recovering versus my dad who is going down the hill. Her courage to take charge, knowing that it either could go better or go worse, is admirable. Not to mention she also has her own medical condition.
I think when they spoke about his illness with the Times, it barely scratched the surface of what that family was really going through. And the fact that they were able to pull through despite such a huge problem still amazes me. I know that when a significantly smaller inconvenience occurs in my life I spiral and become very bitter. But the strength and the perseverance that the Petersons show is such an inspiration. They are all, in their own capacity, such admirable figures and we don’t understand how LUCKY we are to be privy to the amount of knowledge they share about how to live life and how to be happy. It’s mind boggling that someone that has suffered from depression all their life gives us such sound advice on how to be happy and successful.
I don’t usually put messages on TH-cam but this man has got me through some incredibly difficult stages in the past two years - with a misdiagnosis leading to headaches lasting days leading to passing out more than once, and the negative thoughts that came along with.
It was incredibly difficult and although the medical testing is still ongoing, I respect him for helping me see it through with a better temperament.
To treat him like this is just terrible and pathetic.
You would ho strong brother. I went through such thing. Only thing which helped me recover was my desire to face the world and my family.
More power to you! ❤
People like Jordan Peterson restore my faith in humanity....
Same here
@@BaggageClaim @Baggage Claim Con artists and Nazi garbage like the Peterson comedy duo give you faith in humanity? Ok.
@@phasespace4700 troll
Right? Me too!
Me tooo
I actually e-mailed The Times twice expressing how repulsed I was by this - it was such a bad & wrong article. Shameful.
Yessss!!
Absolutely true
Well done!!
Thank you!
You did the right thing. Thank you for voicing your disgust.
How that man maintains his calm is beyond me.
It’s his secret weapon.
Jordan is an amazing person.
He’s an old school man, like my grandfather. Always calm, level, in control. Like a rock.
@@TheSpicyLeg
My Dad was the same way.
A trait I always admired.
Mikhaila was a warrior in all this. Weird how life works. She had health problems of her own and her tenacity in facing that had to help prepare her for dealing with this situation. Jordan P. must be so incredibly proud of her.
Respect to Dr. Peterson, hope he's okay.
He seems like he is getting back to normal. 🙂
I absolutely hate the Times after this 😔how evil to kick a man when their down.
Same
Cause that’s how they feel big.
First it's forbes publishing a hit piece of Totalbiscuit right after he died and now the times. Traditional media just doesn't have the same integrity it had just a decade a go.
This man and his family are unbelievably strong. And how they keep their composure through everything. Its admirable
I, too, am grateful a man like Jordan Peterson exists.
Me too, his lecture help me out of very dark place, he is doing God's work, so the devil's minion get angry.
If someone is dead set on “destroying”someone , because they don’t like what they think or say, I’ma go ahead and say that exclusively makes them bad people. I would even do as far as saying evil.
Agree 100 percent. So many in the media need to do some major soul-searching.
evil or just selfish profit oriented.. dont care if the world burn or a great man dies if they can make a few bucks on portraying him in a profitable way as evil
When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.
George R.R. Martin
Malicious intent doesn't necessarily mean a person is evil. Only when they use it to kick someone already suffering from depression. That is actually evil.
Lots of people immediately pin the "manly ideals" and "masculine identity" of Jordan Peterson's philosophy. But when reading his materials and listening to his lectures. I never felt it was purely masculine. I feel his philosophy applies to....well...everyone
It's more about general human traits where some are seen as more masculine/feminine, especially throughout history. And that the actual positive "masculine" traits risk getting lost when masculinity is seen as toxic, which might take a bigger toll on young men who feel lost.
@@Ondemas You Right, I agree with that, its important for people to be in tune with themselves however Masculine or feminine they are. We need to judge less
I have his book 12 rules for life, and actually is my favourite book of all time, i learn a lot.
@@RobGradyVO However, masculinity definitely is important to men. Especially young boys growing up.
His philosophy is truly for everyone. I've never felt any overwhelming masculinity from him, in the negative sense.
I would love to see more JP Content. He’s my personal hero.
Mine too! Will do :)
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This Video you created is incredibly well done. I agree with you, It is abhorrent how these people treat JB and his family. Im not a highly emotional man but every time i see people trying to discredit and disrespect Dr Peterson it brings tears to my eyes to know a portion of his suffering. After all he has been through. The trials and tribulations. I just cant fathom being the type of person who would do anything but lift him up and cheer him on. How do these people even live with themselves? Even if he is your enemy, how can you have absolutely no compassion and empathy for his suffering? These people attacking Dr Peterson are emotionally and psychologically fractured. They are in pieces, their own personal hell's. Its quite evident that they avoid seeing who they truly are at all costs. They project their self hatred at those who achieve what they cannot. They see him as an enemy, In my personal opinion, because he accomplishes what they cannot. He does it with views and perspectives that contradict these leftists so not only are they haters, but they are proven to be quite wrong in many instances and their egos cannot handle it. Narcissistic Egotistical God Complex, verbose with emotions of psychosis. Its not a 4 axis but i believe it blankets many of them quite well. Its the security blanket that they use to ward of truth.
Baggage Claim: I don’t think Decca and her fellow writers are bad people...
Me: I do. There is a distasteful duplicity in their hearts and it’s very much the antithesis of being good.
Yeah let's stop pretend that these people are good or good intended.
They are not.
BWM--I couldn't agree more. To see someone suffer gravely and wish them further ill is pure hatred, and the human condition doesn't descend much lower than this!!
I always distaste the idea of labeling ppl as good vs evil. Given a certain set of circumstances, we all have the propensity to exact harm upon ourselves and others. Some are less equipped than others to handle adversity and suffering. Or rather, some have more handicaps in that arena. Jordan’s inner strength to push through the dark places in his life is credit to his humility and benevolent outlook, not this completely misapplied label of toxic masculinity. It’s the weak and insecure that seek to control or diminish those with inner power. Labels and projection are bullying strategies of those that secretly live in fear....it’s not necessarily done out of ill-intent (as I believe is the case here), sometimes with those we love it is out of a warped notion of protection....don’t go down that path...because I’m afraid, you should also be afraid. The NYT story was clearly an effort to disempower Jordan, and in effect, those that follow his teachings. It reeks of malevolence.
@@roseofsharon7551 If it was anecdotal I’d agree with the “good intentions” perspective but it’s happening way too often to be anything other than a concerted effort to undermine him at every available turn by certain factions in the media and cultural zeitgeist.
Your closing sentence says it all.
@@roseofsharon7551 Some good points, R of S! The NYT's interview--and I read the entirety of the interchange--was clearly a hack job by a formerly decent publication. They have clearly descended into the very darkest of dark places, with malice toward all with whom they disagree, especially great thinkers such as Dr. Peterson. If they can't hurt him when healthy, kill him when he's down!!!
"closed off from his emotions"? This man is anything but that. I don't know what the reporter was smoking, but it must be real good stuff.
Yup, she's damn clueless
@@BaggageClaim No, I don’t think Decca is clueless, Baggage Claim. I think she’s deliberate and calculated.
She knows she’s protected by two things: (1) 99% of her readers will not seek out videos like this or the original full length interview, and
(2) for those who do seek out the full story, she knows neither her newspaper nor any other mainstream news media outlet will run with the counter-story. In fact, she’s counting on it.
And even if she is, at any point, called to task and held accountable for this article, she has a ready-made rebuttal:
- it’s an alt-right conspiracy
- Jordan has brainwashed you
- this is /her/ truth
- it’s only (racist) white (sexist) males and oppressed uneducated subservient females going after her
Decca et al know exactly what they’re doing.
@@montagen8084 Exactly this. These people aren't clueless - they opeate within a strict agenda and they calculate how to manipulate the public into embracing that agenda themselves. It's far too dangerous to think these extremists - left or right - do not know any better.
I was so shocked when I heard Peterson cry because he was talking about being apart from his profession and the people he loved and then hearing Decca asking him about anger right after that. No sympathie, no care. She was on as mission and didn´t give a fuck about the vulnerable and crumbeling human on the other end of the line. No wonder it´s hard for men to be vulnerable when that is the result.
Dr Peterson is a great teacher and has helped countless numbers of people. Its sad that there are people out there looking for ways to tear someone down when all they want to do is be transparent. Thanks for this break down or the situation and I appreciate your contribution to this. Thank you so much
You're doing great work, thank you for that.
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Wait what... LOL. If I could subscribe again I would.
The fact that my favorite engineering youtuber is commenting on a video about another one of my role models is super cool.
hahahaha it is a small world
Integza what are you doing here? I love both of y’all’s work.
Jordan Peterson should write a book on parenting. His daughter is a hero. I can't imagine how I would have held up if my father was dying in pain. She has quite alot of mental strength.
He has some parenting advice in "12 rules for life".
Well.. her daughter did leave Jordan Peterson in Russia to go cheat on her husband with a pick up artist so I'm not too sure about that
@jetashi Do you have any proof of this?
@@eduardomartinez545 Why would you ask me? Just look it up lol.
@@Jetashii I mean, it'd be hard to find out unless you got it from a reputable source, Jetashi. But I will look it up, although I am incline to believe this may just be slander.
You made me cry Jordan. Please be well, I am praying for you and your family.
These people do not deserve you, they deserve to live in their boiling anger for the rest of their life.
I feel deeply, I may be an empath of some sort. I met a lot of terrible humans so far and I struggle with the viciousness of people. When I discovered this man I couldn't believe that someone like him exists.
He is intelligent, eager to learn, empathetic.
He truly listens to people. You can see how he focuses on the words the other person speaks.
He loves the truth and knows how important it is.
He believes in the good in people although he knows as a result of his consulations etc. how vile people can be.
He helps people around the world with his experiences and knowledge.
He is humble and he shows emotions. When he cries I feel how genuine it is so that I have to cry as well.
This man deserves the world.
Me too
He's also an empath, which could be responsible for some of his health issues when he's under too much stress.
I'll start by saying that I am a rare disease sufferer, and the treatment JP received at the hands of the medical system is NOT out of the norm AT ALL. Poorly understood diseases are just shrugged off or misattributed to incorrect psychiatric diagnoses all the time. The Times trying to use this as a way to character assassinate him and cast doubt on his behavior at a vulnerable point makes me furious. Mikayla is an amazing advocate who saved his life. This interview is some kind of biased "woke" revenge porn in print that exploited a man's suffering on the basis of ideological differences and deliberately misconstrued his words. I'm a recent subscriber and I've found your channel very insightful.
Medics in general tend to cause more trouble than they solve.
@@rodrigog.c.6047 “First do no harm” means not acting unless there is open and shut data on what is wrong via tests. If you have something strange happen like JP did, something they don’t think to test for or not readily quantifiable or explainable with a test, they don’t act. How do you think original doctors GATHERED data? They were observational and willing to be experimental. Nowadays doctors exist only to repair us insofar we can continue to go back to work.
@@Sidera17 nowadays doctors choose career on prestige and salary, not on caring and healing.
@@rodrigog.c.6047 There have been a few studies done about how difficult medical school is from a hazing perspective, so it means that only the most hardened individuals make it to the top, Too much protocol and not enough bedside manner. Too much reliance on tests and algorithms to diagnose. It shouldn’t feel like you’re going into a 7/11 to get treated for a medical problem.
I have CRPS. While not as rare as what Mr Peterson has it is really misunderstood. So much so when i went for my last surgery the surgeon didn't understand that it could travel up my leg and affect the knee (it was a replacement.) It did. The entire one blew up so big that I could not wear pants for 3 months. It was horrible.
How can you do this and not immediately be slapped in the face with your own vileness? Like, these people are supposedly arguing from a moral standpoint, right? How could you listen to a man break down over his terrible ordeal, make a hit piece on him, and profess to have any morals whatsoever? What in the world is wrong with these people? Were they just born without a shred of compassion? Are they all sociopaths?
I watched a video into her background awhile ago and her life shows a self indulgent immoral person
Yes, they are.
Not sociopaths, who merely seek their goals without care for the suffering of others they cause--but psychopaths of a sadistic bent who actively relish the suffering of others. Widespread in the media on both the left and right. Each faction clearly recognizes it in the other but not in themselves.
never good, trusting media. JP is such a fighter it's unbelievable how the times treated this. Exploiting someone in one of their most vulnerable states.
My jaw rarely drops when listening to something, but by the end of this video I couldn't close my mouth because I was so shocked to what I'm listening to.
I have no words for how disgusted I am....
It says a lot about the man he is when you see how much love and dedication he has from his daughter.
this is a understated point. How many western 28yos would put their lifes on holds to take care of their very own father in the same fashion she does?
@@rodrigodealencar323 not many, I’m sure. But I can tell you I would do anything to help or save my pops. He’s my best friend
And that was a great intervention in the interview.
Thanks to her con artist dad, she never has to get a job. Of course she "loves" him. 😂
I agree he is so often terribly misrepresented. I wonder if those people who seek to tear him down have actually ever listened to a full interview from him.
The mob will tear down anyone who reveals truth !
I got the sense from the questions the interviewer asked that she didnt know anything more about him then what she read on left-wing feminazy websites. Talk about being baised aginst your subject.
One of my friends hates him with a passion but hasnt even listened to a talk or interview. Its laughable.
I would assume many of them do, they just don't care because they think they're correct and he's wrong. He's so wrong he needs to be punished, cancelled or whatever else they can think of.
He is too smart for dumb people to understand hin
It makes me cry to think that a man who talks so much about the importance of family had all those problems thrown at his and until now they have managed to survive through it all, because they stuck together. If this man’s family is not the perfect example of what he preaches, I don’t know what is. God bless Dr Peterson and his family. I can’t express how much I admire this man.
I'm really glad to hear he's doing better. I've never seen him in this kind of vulnerable state before. He is an inspiration to me and so many people, and I really want to send him some positive energy.
Mikhaila is just such a gem and such a beautiful example of how Jordan Petersons influence will turn you into a better person
I agree!
Mikhaila seems like a good daughter
I agree! Very amazed by what she did
I feel sad for what Dr.Peterson went through. He's an incredibly brilliant man!
Thank you for putting this video together, we all need a little help sometimes, even the helpers themselves. It's been such a sad thing watching a genuinely good man get dragged through the mud, especially since it would never occur to him to do something similar to another human being. It emphasizes just how small those people are, and the craziest thing is that Dr Peterson would still help any one of them if the opportunity arose.
This is disgusting...instead of revealing how science around mental illnesses is extremely understudied and not enough in the least they just plastered all of these political terms to this man whose understanding of life they will never amount to....it is extremely sad we are in these times where you're put down for literally trying to help people and pointing out how things are going catastrophically wrong
Sue them for libel. You probably won't get any money but you can get them on record.
Shine the Retracto Al Paca signal into the night. Sure enough, James O’Keefe will come.
Let's be honest these guys finesse suits every damn week. They're never held accountable.
I am with the Peterson family. All I could see in the video was a normal, loving family who had been through a rough patch in life and came out triumphant, sharing their story. It's sad to see how apathetic media can go to get their way! Shame on Times.
If Mikhaila ever reads this comment: the human race is eternally grateful for you helping pull through the nightmare.
No exageration!
The once mighty Times is now an irrelevant rag. Ignore them. Jorden Peterson did NOTHING to deserve this hate.
So freaking sad
The Times hasn’t been mighty for a very long time. I present to you the human piece of garbage, Walter Duranty and his support from NYT.
This neglect from those doctors is unacceptable.. the betrayal & hypocrisy of The Times is unacceptable & needs to be held accountable as well.
The reality is we don't have the resources or time to help everyone, they keep mental patients in jail because no facility can hold them and if they do it mostly to pill them up and keep those folk from society.
Also we don't actually understand everyone, never will. Our very understanding of psychology is very limited.
look forward to your deep-dive on Peterson, thank you for making this video
Thank you so much for this piece. I can hardly think of anyone so deserving of gratitude and compassion, who has been denied both in the public eye of the media.
People who criticize Jordan Peterson have clearly never actually heard him speak. He is incredibly positive and more importantly practical. It's so sad to see both sides vilify him.
He is so intelligent, soft spoken, empathetic and kind. I am so sorry he is going through such dark times. And now there is public turmoil to add to his burden
That's a very cultish description of the guy tbh.
Why doe's every single JP fan sound like literal cultists, it's pretty unsettling.
@@coffeepot3123 i reread my comment several times and can't see why you called is cultish. I am not making sacrifices to him or pray or anything like that. Just said how he comes across and that I feel sad that he is going through difficult times... I am sorry is empathy became a synonym to a cult in your eyes
Glad to find this. Didn't know he'd had such a serious issue. Mikhaila reminds me of my wife a bit when I needed help. Its that feminine strength that keeps me going. Thanks for covering this. I really like Jordan Peterson and I think he's made sense to me in a crazy world.
Well done... Well done. This is beautifully and clearly covered. Wonderful piece of content. Loved it.
I’ve always liked this man. I’m sorry for his terrible ordeal. The Times are first line propaganda for years now.
Jordan Peterson is one of the least controversial self-help gurus to come out of the ether. He’s well intentioned and speaks to people who truly need it. Why the left wing media feel the need to destroy him speaks to the impact that he has.
Treat with extreme suspicion, anyone who declares Dr Peterson to be a 'controversial figure' in any way.
Mikayla is a badass daughter. So much respect for when she stood up for her father. She is clearly following in the footsteps of her father in the respectable virtues that he aspires to. This as well as well her taking the responsibility and mantle for her family. She is a genuine role model for a strong woman. Taking responsibility and caring and standing up for her family. That's what women and men need to see.
I would love a second video! Thank you for making this informing video! Love your channel.
Mikhaila is an angel!!! This family is so lucky to have each other. The journalist seems disappointed that Peterson recovered, what a sicko. She keeps putting words in his mouth, it's a common trick-being deliberately obtuse-and I despise and condemn it.
It's unbelievable! And yes, Mikhaila did a wonderful job!
Wow, I can't believe the Times did that to him after such an ordeal. Then again, I can... lying and slandering people is all they do these days.
Once again, you have given me hope by talking about one of the problems that I really care about and are blindsided by our society. That interview is really hard to listen to. And it makes me angry that such people are given a big platform to constantly attack the people they don’t agree with. I used to see journalists with a lot of respect as a kid, but now I think real journalism is dead. All I see in the media now is identity politics and pointless pieces that is supposed to “raise awareness” about some issues or whatever, in a very divisive way
Wow, misdiagnosing and offer essentially the same symptoms he was experiencing. ECT is effective in Bipolar and schizophrenia but if you listen to the patient long enough they'll tell you what's wrong. The medications and the situation is was trying to endure. God Bless him and his family, too endure such trauma and staying focused on getting better. Amazing man!
All geniuses have a tendancy towards aniexty and depression. I have even more respect for him now. To be so publicly honest about his problems is no easy feat.
Yes. It's really hard for people to be open about these sorts of things. Opening up will only help others in similar situations pull through instead of resorting to suicide. Depression and mental illness in particular used to be such a taboo subject. That has changed since Robin Williams death, but still not enough. Major props for him to talk about his illness and trials he had to go through. It doesn't sound like it was done as a publicity stunt, he didn't seek out the interview. It sounds like he decided to have an open conversation about what happened to let others know what he had been through on request from Time.
People like Decca are why journalism has lost so much credibility. "If you're in pain, you're going to get angry." Thanks, Jordan for reteaching Decca some obvious common sense she should know by Kindergarten, let alone now.
Seriously!
This was such a great video. Thank you for putting it together. Peterson has personally helped me with getting my life together and is a total asset to every man and woman that needs direction.
Thanks for this video and look foward to your next analysis!
I followed this development as it unfolded.... What I could not stop myself thinking about is: If I have seen my WORST ENEMY be this vulnerable, and hurt, and go through this much pain, EVEN IF I thought it could be avoided, I would NEVER, EVEEER publish an article like that. Even if I wanted to hurt him, I would have said to myself: I have to give this man some time to stand on his two feet firmly, before I 'attack'.
Baffling to me.
From what I have seen from his videos interviews, Jordan Peterson is very sincere person.
Decca Aitkenhead is anything but. Good thing the truth comes out eventually.
This brought me to your channel and I've already subscribed! Such a thorough and thoughtful summary, which I say as someone who closely watched the whole ordeal unfold (starting with his illness and any news thereof. I'd love to see a deep dive on why they hate him!
You are quickly becoming one of my favorite youtubers. Another excellent video! Sharing it everywhere!
Sometimes I disagree with Jordan Peterson (usually to the different environment we both were raised in, he's from Canada, I'm from eastern Europe so naturally we value a bit different things in life) BUT I love listening to that man discussing something. He's very respectful and polite while not allowing his worldview and ideals be shaken despite having them questioned all the time, having his words being twisted by people trying to make him look bad. And he always has arguments to back up his points and defend them without being hostile to the people questioning them.
A truly manly man, a male icon of what every man should aspire to be. And considering the insane amounts of love that flow in his family (both in his support of his daughter's extremely severe medical conditions and her saving him) he's also an icon when it comes to fatherhood and husbandhood (if that's even a word :D )
You may enjoy this one since Michael Malice is from eastern Europe. The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - S4: E30 th-cam.com/video/L9HqHzA3atQ/w-d-xo.html
Glad this is being discussed, thank you. I don’t always agree with Dr. Peterson but I respect him greatly and after listening to the raw unedited Times interview, then reading the article it really bothered me. The journalist suffered no repercussions for her lies unfortunately
Peterson - "I'm literally dying, I have researched this as has my daughter and I am terminally ill"
Times - "Hmm I feel yah. Ever been cat called? Life's rough but I wouldn't expect you to understand"
I would definitely be interested in a deep-dive video such as you described toward the end of this video. Thank you.
This interview was so unnecessary. She had an agenda and just did not care about JP
It’s surprising he fell for this interview,. I feel like he knew it was a trap, and recorded it so he could destroy the Times.
No, he is very vulnerable now. It seems he is more prone to make emotional decisions under depression and stress. I hope he regain his confidence and able to overcome his depression. Hopefully, he will be more careful in selecting these interviews
Exactly. Decca went into the interview with full intent to write a hit-piece and was just using the interview to fish for ammo to use in her hit-piece.
Please do the "why the left hates dr. Peterson" exposé! Thanks for another great video.
I agree with you, It is sad that a person can be so misrepresented during an already troubling time and what is worse is that it was done by a somewhat reputable publication, on the bright side, Mikhaila Peterson, she is the example of a daughter raised right. Just listen to how calm and collected she is when she is responding to the interviewer without getting triggered.That is pure class.
finally you uploaded!! thnx
Excellent commentary on an ongoing problem with the leftist media. Jordan Peterson is truly an impressive man who understands humanity.
After learning about akathesia on You Tube, I truly respect Jordan even more, even if I don't personally agree with everything he says. Shame on Decca and their gutter attempt at journalism and trying to bring Jordan down with lies.
I bought the Times once. It was the height of the COVID buying craze, and I couldn't find toilet paper.
All this years I have been watching Dr. Peterson, I have never developed any negative impressions to him. I love the man. Truly thankful for everything. It's truly heartbreaking for me to watch him suffering in his health and the worst about it is that this man, a second father figure to me, is getting berated and constantly demonize by many people he was trying to help. He is always kind to people even to those who are angry at him. I don't understand the hatred
I disagree with much of Jordan Peterson's philosophy and worldview. However, I can recognize genuine suffering. Liberal/progressives love to talk about empathy. . .except when it means empathizing with someone they already dislike. Instead, they will moralize this person's suffering, implying that the person deserved it, or something along those lines. I'm saying this as a self-proclaimed progressive. We are not immune to the hyper-partisan blind spots that we so often decry on the right.
I was on the far left for a while and I had to walk away because I didn't like how they openly celebrated the suffering and death of people that they didn't agree with ideologically. It's disgusting and hypocritical according to their philosophy.
I’m curious what is it about his worldview and philosophy that you disagree with?
I was thinking about commenting something similar but you've summed up my sentiments beautifully. Thumbs up.
@@thewanderer2878 I think you've missed the point. Whatever differences or disagreements they have are irrelevant
Well said. I think dehumanizing political opponents is a very bad way to go. I think it has a lot in common psychologically with racism, only it's ideology instead of ethnicity. Even if you want change, it won't happen by hating people who think differently.
Great video, and thanks for highlighting this great, interesting and inspiring man. Props to his loving and supportive daughter. Isnt it odd that a supposed "toxic" man hell bent on holding women back, or at least this is how the main steam media would have it, this toxic man has helped raise an intelligent, independent amazingly strong young women, who clearly loves her "toxic" father. Main stream media has lost all integrity and most people's trust!! Shame on such a previously considered prestigeous news outlet, shame indeed!!
I'm discovering your videos and gosh am I loving them
This is such a great analysis
Thank so much for all your videos. I have recently discovered you and this one really touched me. It’s an incredible story , thank you for telling. Your really great at this ! I wish you all the support for your future success.
This is why your needed Miss. You have a great gift of revealing the most vulnerable and important points of your subjects. Well done.❤️
I feel like I understand what he was going through. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia at 18 without ruling out any other causes. And now that I have the diagnosis they will not look at any other causes.
Thank you for spreading the word about this topic
This is a great video. I really enjoy the Baggage Claim channel.
I have read everything he has published and watched many of his online lectures. He has helped me tremendously, not only as a young man finding my way, but as a human being. Nothing but love for him.
Thank you for picking up this topic. Peterson is such an important figure in these wild times! I really appreciate your content!
You are swiftly becoming my favorite channel
Yes please do the deep dive - I'd love to see it.