16/11/20 Update on tires, front tire had done 5500km (2500km as rear) and I went to my bike this morning and it was flat. Still had heaps of tread and would have been good for at least 8000km but I had ran out of sealant and it leaked out of a small cut. The tire had too much sealant on the bead to seat properly so instead of cleaning off caked on sealant, I replaced since it is circuital to have a good tire up front. Also I didn't mention, 2 wraps of rim tape and the setup is a lot easier, I no longer have to use nitrogen, I can just use air compressor. Be sure to replace sealant every 3 - 6 months or otherwise you will be caught out from a tiny puncture, I left mine for a year :) Thanks for support on the Video!
@@gabrieljohannson6777 Hey, there are a few brands that promote their sealant lasts the life of the tire, but they don't work that good. But yes, all other sealants magically dry up and they always say to replace in 3 months or so, but I usually leave a lot longer. But you risk being caught out.
@@gabrieljohannson6777 really depends on local climate conditions too. I’m in a hot troppo area, a lot of the cyclists here have to change/top up their sealant around 4 months. Dries up so fast! Those from cooler places would do 6 or 10 months. But agree with Kurtis, 6 months is a good rule of thumb
Bike mechanic here. One of your senior guys at the shop showed me a trick for tires that are tricky to seat. Granted you need an air compressor. Take the valve core out and instead of using a regular shop inflator, use a needle shaped one. Get the end of it completely over thr valve stem. This trick has seated the toughess tires, including fat bike tirees.
Thanks for the tip but I already have a 110psi air compressor and using the air gun down the stem still doesn't seat all tires. I needed 500psi with a nitrogen bottle and gauge line to seat these, but what I found was a simple fix, just add an extra layer of rim tape then the air compressor would work. I had to do this recently on my gravel bike, the air compressor wouldn't seat the tires.
Hey David I'm with you . . I haven't got them yet but next spring I'll be running the Cinturatos with tubes - with just about the highest protection out there, on the Cinturatos, tubeless is just about useless with all its hassles and mess :-) And with a good quality TPU tube, you come in UNDER the tubeless weight Happy, safe cycling !
couldn't agree more. Since prior to corona I have done roughly 10000 km on these. Used latex innertubes for a long time, but they bursted at the valve after 1½ years constant use (100% okay) and I suddenly had to turn to tubeless around Christmas. On my Campy Bora WTO with 19mm internal width and Schwalbe blue doc it was complety safe and hazzlefree to install. Beaded with a compressor and Schwalbe soap though emthy valve. Frontwheel is now with Vittoria Corsa Control G+ that is a very similar tyre.
20 mm internal rim width. Had to use an inner tube to seat it, unseat one side remove the tube, and then use my Topeak blaster pump. Brilliant tyre. Replaced Vittoria Terreno Zero. Too many punctures on them that wouldn’t seal.
I'm glad you could seat it!I intersting method, pirelli instructions actually say use a inner tube to help shape new tire. I now know that 2 - 3 wraps of rim tape makes it a lot easier to seat if you are having problems, so i can now do with air compressor. Still love these tires. I only just had my first failure, checked my bike in the morning and my front tire was flat, but it wasn't the tire, it was the rim tape failed. But the tire was too hard to reuse because it had lots of sealant on the bead from trying to seal as the pressure went down. (Sealant is so caked on i can't remove) I'm still yet to get the full life of any tire. I've got fresh rim tape on the rear and tire is at 5500km so it might be a first. All my mountain bike tires I have thrown in the bin always have heaps of tread and I usually damage side wall. Then all my road bike tires just get too many cuts.
The maximum internal with recommended by Pirelli is 19mm. I didn’t have any problem with the tubeless setup with my 19mm wheel. But anything wider, is not recommended by Pirelli
Seat easy on my Prime wheels. Great tyre. Never flat. I commute on them every day and have to ride through some dodgy areas of Perth with broken glass everywhere. I pick glass out of the tread and still haven't flatted after 7k KMs. They are starting to square off a bit now and I've rotated them once.
I just swapped out to the Pirelli Pzero race TLR, Cinturatos were holding up strong but techniaclly not suited for my rim, so I made the change and the new tires popped onto my 20.7mm rim with ease, going to feel a lot safer when railing corners now. But if they are not puncture resistant ill be straight back onto using the Cinturatos :)
@@juancamilorodriguez8134 honestly not much, I recently got a gravel bike and haven't put many more kilometres on road bike. So long term test i don't know, but short term, installation was easy and after 500km they ride great and rubber seems good, no cuts.
Thanks for the review. I've just replaced my Gatorskins with these and roll much better. On my DT Swiss wheel's they went on super easy almost without levers, a far cry from the Continental.
@@KurtisPape they sealed fine, I had 95psi and weigh 75kgs. I'm using them on my Commute bike CAAD12 but could easily ride on clubrides with these. Only time will tell but so far they felt good.
I have zipp 353 nsw hookless wheels, zipp tyre chart says these can fit. Minimum 28c. Been using vittoria Corsa next 28c but tired of getting punctures and most of them not sealing... Ordered this tyre, i wish they have 30c version.
On the box it did say not for use with hookless rims, no sure if that has changed recently but I would double check for safety. Most tubeless tires now days are compatible with hookless so surely they might have updated the cinturatos
mine are bang on the rite size and they didn't bond properly, the only way I could do it was put in fluid like it also askes for pumped it up to 80 psi then road round the block then came back in and left at pumped back up to 80psi again and left till the next day and it was fine then so just to what I wanted it at.
Kurtis I’ve had those on my gravel bike they are very good ,,no the new ones are road tyres they do two types one out right race and the other has a bit more protection I think they call them the velo tubeless
It depends... 28mm tires you could occasionally ride some gravel, it's a fairly rough ride even if it's good quality gravel, I don't think you would have to worry about punctures though if you take it easy. If you went up to 35mm size it would be less harsh but still not a full time gravel tire since it doesn't have any tread. Again in terms of puncture protection most road bike tires don't last when you ride gravel but these are definitely fine for occasional gravel from my experience 👍
Hi mate thanks for the review, I’ve been using these tyres on every bike for a few years and agree with everything you’ve said - I have a question; I’ve just got some new rims, internal is 22mm and I’ve put the 28’s on, tubeless, with some hassle but I’m concerned about them unseating at speed, have you had any arse twitching moments or all good, just a hassle to seat? Cheers
Hey, I never had any issue with them unseating, when I would hit some corners at 60km/h it would be on the back of my mind they are a loose fit but I never had problems as long as you keep ontop of you pressures. For e.g. I feel like you could roll off the rim at 35 psi in a hard corner. Anyway when I would let all pressure out of the tire it would pop off the bead by itself, adding the extra layer of rim tape seemed to stop this, but this just could mean if you had a catastrophic puncture from 70psi to 0 in a sec, the tire might not protect the rim, but I never worried about this because I never had any blow outs, and the sealant gives you time to slow down. unlike the schawble pro1s which were dangerous and would catastrophicly fail. Anyway I hope this helps :)
The Cinturato highly rated by Bicycle Rolling Resistance a very credible source but I JUST don't see tubeless on these particular tires which have just about the highest puncture resistance out there :-) . . . with good quality TPU tubes, you have lower all-in weight with no mess no fuss of tubeless whose "advantages" come through only with much more "fragile tires" . . . sure if you run on glass and nails all day long, fine go tubeless but under normal riding conditions tubeless is useless on these great tires :-)
I ride on a main road that always has heaps of glass and metal pieces in the bike lane. Other cyclists can usually see the glass ahead but I can't and always plough right through it haha. If your tire doesn't see glass I would see these working well with inner tubes
Yea not much clearance but I've had no problems. Funny I was calling this the perfect tire but now im having issues, my rear tire keeps dropping to 40psi, I keep pumping to 80psi and with in 1 hr I'm I'm back at 40psi but it stops leaking at 40. I've tried everything, new sealant, valve core, cleaned bead of tire etc. Tire doesn't leak any sealant and has no damage :/ might be rim tape.
Thanks for the review! I'm considering fitting this tire but I will run with tubes, tubeless still seems to be too messy for my liking. Can you confirm the actuall width of 28mm tire please? Are they running wider as some other reviews say? Cheers mate
Hey, yea they come up a little wide at about 32mm on my 21mm rims. I recently put a new cinturato on the front and it visually looks narrower, I thought it would flatten off because it was new but it has stayed the same, that is 30mm wide.
@@ciulabula1 I tried to find my measuring calipers but couldnt find, but side wall to side wall was 32mm using ruler. The usable tread isnt that wide. Not gonna lie they don't feel like 32mm tires though, previously I used schwalbe pro 1 28mm which pumped up to 32mm and they felt big and the comfort came with that. But the pirelli feel every bit like 25mm tires that pump upto 28mm, is that too complicated haha. But comfortable enough, you can always lower tire pressure but I prefer them hard when I mash on the pedals
Hi, might depend on rim width, im using the new Pirelli Pzero tubeless now and they measured 29mm. But when I was using the Cinturato tires im pretty sure they measured around 30mm, but it does depend on rim width a bit as well.
@@Atlantis109 yea they are 28mm size, on a more narrow rim im sure they would measure 28mm, but for me they were just slightly wider. I had a 28mm Schwalbe Pro1 tire that measured to 32mm, and the 25mm size measured to 28mm so I would say the Pirelli tires are pretty accurate in width.
@@KurtisPape Are they fast in speed? I drive around the city, on dry asphalt to work. I have a bicycle road cube hyde race 2016, there are schwalbe marathon supreme evolution tires 42-622, but they are heavy and slow, I wanted to try these pirelli velo. Can I put them with a camera?
@@Atlantis109 Still happy with the Hyde Race, belt & hub? I was looking at this model but finally chose a Cross Race instead since I'm not commuting and have 10-20% bad trails. I replaced the rear tyre with a Cinturato velo, so far, so good. Not sure what you mean by "put them with a camera"...
Yep someone told me about a month ago that they changed the max rim width from 20c to 19c for both 28c and 26c on 700c wheels... Confusing? Yea it is, why do they use 'c' all it means is mm for tires but 700c wheels are 622mm wtf! But when I comes to tires 26c are 26mm and 19c rim is 19mm. These tires are great yet poorly designed to only fit older narrow rims. Generally the wider the tire the wider rim you can go. So there is a high chance this tire / rim combo might not work unless your rims have a good bead hook where the tire seats.
@@KurtisPape thanks for the detailed reply. Now I don’t know if I should risk it and try them or just send them back as I haven’t used them yet. I do like they have much better protection than the conti GP5000 or Schwalbe Pro One tle. I might keep the Pro one as they feel easier to mount vs the GP5000.
@@theflyerpr40d the schwalbe pro 1 set up really easy from my experience. If you have heaps of glass on the roads or ride lots of gravel I would say the schwalbe pro 1s do puncture easy, but nice roads they are fine. Pirelli have come out with another good tubeless tire. The 'P zero TLR race' im not sure on the rim width limits but I know they do work with hookless rims, which is a big difference from the cinturato. Honestly not sure if you should take tire back or not, but for safety concerns the tire can be a loose fit and blow off in a corner for example. Its a bummer to have to take stuff back :(
@@KurtisPape yes the Pro one TL was really easy to setup I only used the floor pump and was able to easily set it up is holding air about 80psi no sealant yet. The Pirelli rim was leaking around the valve so would have to redo the tape around the valve and try again but was also able to pump it to 80psi. I think I might risk it and keep the Pirelli if I fix the valve and they can hold air as good as the Pro One TL. Dint even considered the other Pirelli versions.
Hey, would you recommend your polygon? And have there been any major issues with it’s performance since you have first owned it, because I am thinking of getting the ex7 and there aren’t to many reviews on the specific model so I just want to know how the ex9 is preforming.
Wow, thats random I just happened to be looking at the EX7 today! its the first time ive checked out Bicycles online in a year. The new 2020 EX7 looks great with the black and blue paint job. Way better than 2019 with all aqua blue. The new SLX drive train seems pretty good so I would highly suggest. My EX9 has been great long term. Took to Canada and it handled Whistler with ease, jumps great and have no problem getting it sideways. Im yet to do any major servicing on the bike other than fix creaks along the way which happens with almost every bike. I just found things like taking rear shock out cleaning and greasing points fixed creak and unbolted rear support and cleaned and greased, also just flushed out headset bearings and re-greased as there wasnt much grease from factory. The rear swing arm is reliable and have no issues with it. I did have a 1 off warranty problem with dropper post which I sent back and still wasnt fixed so I just got fox dropper post. Overall the bike rides insane. Only weird thing I found which doesnt effect riding is I find it really had to do wheelstands, all other MTBs I can wheel stand with ease but this bike has a real weird balance point which is also a small balance point like its in 1 specific spot.
Hey, it should fit fine. It should be written on the box if you have to choice to get in store. But I'm building a gravel bike at the moment and I got some 23mm internal rims and they say they can take 50mm tires but I got some 35mm. But these pirelli tires are strange, make sure your rims are hooked, because they are not compatible with hookless and yes they prefer a narrow rim. Pirelli have some new tubeless tires that are hookless compatible and fit wider rims called the P zero race tlr.
Yeah its weird, for tire size 32c written on the box maximum inner width not greater than 21mm, for 32c its weird only max at 21mm :( Now I'm using it at Hunt Gravel disc with 23mm inner width, and everything works fine...
@@ary6916 yea that's strange how they designed this tire. So did you set it up? As long as its sets up fine it will be fine. Even though mine are a loose fit, as long as I maintain good pressure above 40psi they are safe. Ive used heaps now and cornered hard on downhills and never had the tire fail, I have lots of trust in it.
@@KurtisPape Yeah already set up yesterday on tubeless (success on one attempt) but the bike handling feel weird, feels like flat tire - heavy steering) even the psi is maintain 50-60psi, so I change to clincher today and its all good. I'm not sure whether I put too much sealant (around 190ml for two wheels) or just wheels characteristic (35mm deep vs crosswind).
@@ary6916 I usually do 80ml per wheel. So 190ml combined is fine. My tires don't feel heavy. I swapped from the fastest tire at the time, the schwalbe pro 1 28mm to these and noticed no difference even over 100km rides. So I'm not sure why would feel heavy. Tubeless is tested to have lower rolling resistance and 60psi in 32mm tire is plenty if you are under maybe 85kg
Hey, have you got an air compressor? If so try to pump up without valve core in then quickly take air compressor off and put core back in, if done quick enough just then add pressure again. But if too slow it may pop onto bead but pop off again if it quickly hits 0 psi... It's really hard to do but I got the technique down pat. The easy way I just found out is more rim tape! I used 25mm gorilla tape which was a little too wide but just fit and i could simply install tire with floor pump. With normal rim tape try 2 or 3 wraps. This has been a tip used for loose fitting mountain bike tires for years. Also watch this video m.th-cam.com/video/mWhlq-ky74s/w-d-xo.html this guy installs tire using straps.
Oh yea how I was originally doing it way using nitrogen cylinder. This is about 2200 psi but obviously have to regulate lower to maybe 200 psi. This pressure had no problem popping tire onto bead, but doing it a few times actually destroyed my rim tape because it's only rated to 150psi.
They would fit, mine are 20.7mm internal so that small .7mm difference could help heaps. They could be hard to set up tubless without air compressor but I would try 1 tire out first, if its hard to seat, replace rimtape with 2 or 3 wraps and the tire mounts a lot easier.
@@nicholasmontoya5369 no worries, yea I forgot to say it is worth it though! I'm still using same set of tires and literally don't worry about punctures anymore.
Bewertung zur Qualität des Reifens (28x622 / 700x28). Noch nicht auf der Straße getestet. Montage erfolgte ohne Werkzeug und ohne Anstrengung, auf: +Campagnolo Calima C17 Laufradsatz HG/ED (622x17c) +mit Conti Race Tube 28 (700x20 - 700x25) +auf dem ROSE PRO SL 105, Gr. 53cm +verbaute Bremsen: SHIMANO 105 BR-R7000 +Der Reifen ist hochwertig verarbeitet +keine sichtbaren Beschädigungen +kein penetranter Geruch +tolles Profil +dicker und griffiger Gummi auf der Lauffläche +tolles Design Bei 7 Bar hat der Reifen eine Breite von 27,88mm und 27,95mm, es liegt wohl an dem geringen Luftdruckunterschied.
16/11/20 Update on tires, front tire had done 5500km (2500km as rear) and I went to my bike this morning and it was flat. Still had heaps of tread and would have been good for at least 8000km but I had ran out of sealant and it leaked out of a small cut. The tire had too much sealant on the bead to seat properly so instead of cleaning off caked on sealant, I replaced since it is circuital to have a good tire up front. Also I didn't mention, 2 wraps of rim tape and the setup is a lot easier, I no longer have to use nitrogen, I can just use air compressor. Be sure to replace sealant every 3 - 6 months or otherwise you will be caught out from a tiny puncture, I left mine for a year :) Thanks for support on the Video!
Really you have to replace the sealant? I always thought it was set and forget. That’s a real pain in the arse mate. Thanks for the heads up.
@@gabrieljohannson6777 Hey, there are a few brands that promote their sealant lasts the life of the tire, but they don't work that good. But yes, all other sealants magically dry up and they always say to replace in 3 months or so, but I usually leave a lot longer. But you risk being caught out.
@@gabrieljohannson6777 really depends on local climate conditions too. I’m in a hot troppo area, a lot of the cyclists here have to change/top up their sealant around 4 months. Dries up so fast! Those from cooler places would do 6 or 10 months. But agree with Kurtis, 6 months is a good rule of thumb
Bike mechanic here. One of your senior guys at the shop showed me a trick for tires that are tricky to seat. Granted you need an air compressor.
Take the valve core out and instead of using a regular shop inflator, use a needle shaped one. Get the end of it completely over thr valve stem.
This trick has seated the toughess tires, including fat bike tirees.
Thanks for the tip but I already have a 110psi air compressor and using the air gun down the stem still doesn't seat all tires. I needed 500psi with a nitrogen bottle and gauge line to seat these, but what I found was a simple fix, just add an extra layer of rim tape then the air compressor would work. I had to do this recently on my gravel bike, the air compressor wouldn't seat the tires.
I run tubes with them, old school. Great tire the grip is amazing . In the wet , the grip is brilliant, best tire I ever use, . Good video
Hi, what tyre pressure do you run in them ?
@@marcusandkerriehodge8213 90 psi 100 kg
Hey David I'm with you . . I haven't got them yet but next spring I'll be running the Cinturatos with tubes - with just about the highest protection out there, on the Cinturatos, tubeless is just about useless with all its hassles and mess :-) And with a good quality TPU tube, you come in UNDER the tubeless weight Happy, safe cycling !
@@davidward4329 I just bought these tires with pirelli inner tubes. Wondering what should be tyre pressure for 100kg. Was your cinturatos 700x28 also?
couldn't agree more. Since prior to corona I have done roughly 10000 km on these. Used latex innertubes for a long time, but they bursted at the valve after 1½ years constant use (100% okay) and I suddenly had to turn to tubeless around Christmas. On my Campy Bora WTO with 19mm internal width and Schwalbe blue doc it was complety safe and hazzlefree to install. Beaded with a compressor and Schwalbe soap though emthy valve. Frontwheel is now with Vittoria Corsa Control G+ that is a very similar tyre.
Best - 'no fuss' tire I have ever owned. No failures after 2000km and still going! + I'm 95kg. These would last 3 times as long as a standard tire.
@Vinicius I run tubeless. I actually found the sealant dried up for a while and still had no issues! Amazing!
@Vinicius or Pirelli smartube
Really helpful review. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks mate, just pulled the trigger on a pair.
Great review! I have these and they are excellent!
20 mm internal rim width. Had to use an inner tube to seat it, unseat one side remove the tube, and then use my Topeak blaster pump.
Brilliant tyre. Replaced Vittoria Terreno Zero. Too many punctures on them that wouldn’t seal.
I'm glad you could seat it!I intersting method, pirelli instructions actually say use a inner tube to help shape new tire. I now know that 2 - 3 wraps of rim tape makes it a lot easier to seat if you are having problems, so i can now do with air compressor. Still love these tires.
I only just had my first failure, checked my bike in the morning and my front tire was flat, but it wasn't the tire, it was the rim tape failed. But the tire was too hard to reuse because it had lots of sealant on the bead from trying to seal as the pressure went down. (Sealant is so caked on i can't remove)
I'm still yet to get the full life of any tire. I've got fresh rim tape on the rear and tire is at 5500km so it might be a first. All my mountain bike tires I have thrown in the bin always have heaps of tread and I usually damage side wall. Then all my road bike tires just get too many cuts.
Great review.
Straight up review mate.
Cheers for that.
The maximum internal with recommended by Pirelli is 19mm. I didn’t have any problem with the tubeless setup with my 19mm wheel. But anything wider, is not recommended by Pirelli
Seat easy on my Prime wheels. Great tyre. Never flat. I commute on them every day and have to ride through some dodgy areas of Perth with broken glass everywhere. I pick glass out of the tread and still haven't flatted after 7k KMs. They are starting to square off a bit now and I've rotated them once.
Seated mine with a track pump, first try on both wheels. Didn't even need a tire lever. FYI my rim width is 21mm internal
On the box of these Pirelli Cinturato Velo: 26mm and below are NOT hookless compatible
the 28, 30 and 35 ARE hookless ready
2:14 but this one says Do not fit on hook-less if inner rim is greater then 20cm
There's a 35c version? I have 32c one that came with the bike. Guess I know what tire to get next!
@@drill_fiend1097 Yes I KNOW because I have ridden those for over 1600km this year
Hell I agree, Got a pair, bike handle like its on rails
I just swapped out to the Pirelli Pzero race TLR, Cinturatos were holding up strong but techniaclly not suited for my rim, so I made the change and the new tires popped onto my 20.7mm rim with ease, going to feel a lot safer when railing corners now. But if they are not puncture resistant ill be straight back onto using the Cinturatos :)
@@KurtisPape Hi Kurtis! Any comments on the Pirelli Pzero race TLR?
@@juancamilorodriguez8134 honestly not much, I recently got a gravel bike and haven't put many more kilometres on road bike. So long term test i don't know, but short term, installation was easy and after 500km they ride great and rubber seems good, no cuts.
Thanks for the review. I've just replaced my Gatorskins with these and roll much better. On my DT Swiss wheel's they went on super easy almost without levers, a far cry from the Continental.
Thats good to hear! Did they seal ok with a pump or did you need a air compressor?
@@KurtisPape they sealed fine, I had 95psi and weigh 75kgs. I'm using them on my Commute bike CAAD12 but could easily ride on clubrides with these. Only time will tell but so far they felt good.
@@nicklaz6986 What DT model and the tyre size do you have?
@@-S-P wheels are DT Swiss RR21 DICUT(rear) DT Swiss R20(front) tyres are 26-622.
I have zipp 353 nsw hookless wheels, zipp tyre chart says these can fit. Minimum 28c. Been using vittoria Corsa next 28c but tired of getting punctures and most of them not sealing... Ordered this tyre, i wish they have 30c version.
On the box it did say not for use with hookless rims, no sure if that has changed recently but I would double check for safety. Most tubeless tires now days are compatible with hookless so surely they might have updated the cinturatos
I just got these in 32s and 35s for my new Domane SL5 and I just found out my inner rim width is 22. I mounted them with tube. Should I be worried?
mine are bang on the rite size and they didn't bond properly, the only way I could do it was put in fluid like it also askes for pumped it up to 80 psi then road round the block then came back in and left at pumped back up to 80psi again and left till the next day and it was fine then so just to what I wanted it at.
Hmmmm. I'm deciding on this, terrano dry TNT, and tufo speedero
Great review ,,i wonder how good the new Pirelli tubeless tyres are
Cheers, what new tubeless tires? The gravel cinturato?
Kurtis I’ve had those on my gravel bike they are very good ,,no the new ones are road tyres they do two types one out right race and the other has a bit more protection I think they call them the velo tubeless
@@alanhill7965 that's sweet ill have to look into it.
Hi, so these are fine for gravel?
It depends... 28mm tires you could occasionally ride some gravel, it's a fairly rough ride even if it's good quality gravel, I don't think you would have to worry about punctures though if you take it easy. If you went up to 35mm size it would be less harsh but still not a full time gravel tire since it doesn't have any tread. Again in terms of puncture protection most road bike tires don't last when you ride gravel but these are definitely fine for occasional gravel from my experience 👍
@@KurtisPape i see, thanks a lot
Hi mate thanks for the review, I’ve been using these tyres on every bike for a few years and agree with everything you’ve said - I have a question; I’ve just got some new rims, internal is 22mm and I’ve put the 28’s on, tubeless, with some hassle but I’m concerned about them unseating at speed, have you had any arse twitching moments or all good, just a hassle to seat?
Cheers
Hey, I never had any issue with them unseating, when I would hit some corners at 60km/h it would be on the back of my mind they are a loose fit but I never had problems as long as you keep ontop of you pressures. For e.g. I feel like you could roll off the rim at 35 psi in a hard corner. Anyway when I would let all pressure out of the tire it would pop off the bead by itself, adding the extra layer of rim tape seemed to stop this, but this just could mean if you had a catastrophic puncture from 70psi to 0 in a sec, the tire might not protect the rim, but I never worried about this because I never had any blow outs, and the sealant gives you time to slow down. unlike the schawble pro1s which were dangerous and would catastrophicly fail. Anyway I hope this helps :)
The Cinturato highly rated by Bicycle Rolling Resistance a very credible source but I JUST don't see tubeless on these particular tires which have just about the highest puncture resistance out there :-) . . . with good quality TPU tubes, you have lower all-in weight with no mess no fuss of tubeless whose "advantages" come through only with much more "fragile tires" . . . sure if you run on glass and nails all day long, fine go tubeless but under normal riding conditions tubeless is useless on these great tires :-)
I ride on a main road that always has heaps of glass and metal pieces in the bike lane. Other cyclists can usually see the glass ahead but I can't and always plough right through it haha. If your tire doesn't see glass I would see these working well with inner tubes
@@KurtisPape late response :-) Yes I see your dilemma in running through glass a lot of times :-) Happy safe cycling !
Ive changed my 2018 Defy to these tyres and size. There isn’t much room in there. 🤭 they were quite good in the TDU 110km ride.
Yea not much clearance but I've had no problems. Funny I was calling this the perfect tire but now im having issues, my rear tire keeps dropping to 40psi, I keep pumping to 80psi and with in 1 hr I'm I'm back at 40psi but it stops leaking at 40. I've tried everything, new sealant, valve core, cleaned bead of tire etc. Tire doesn't leak any sealant and has no damage :/ might be rim tape.
Kurtis it can only be the rim tape now. 👍🏼 I’ve also upgraded my wheels to the Yoeleo tubeless ready carbon wheels set. . No tape required.
what pressure did you run with the 20.7 Rear internal width? Is there a max on that I am not seeing?
looking at buying these after my SCHWALBE PRO ONE got a puncture after 2nd ride patched from inside and plugged with a dynoplug but still no good
Thanks for the review! I'm considering fitting this tire but I will run with tubes, tubeless still seems to be too messy for my liking. Can you confirm the actuall width of 28mm tire please? Are they running wider as some other reviews say? Cheers mate
Hey, yea they come up a little wide at about 32mm on my 21mm rims. I recently put a new cinturato on the front and it visually looks narrower, I thought it would flatten off because it was new but it has stayed the same, that is 30mm wide.
@@KurtisPape Perfect! That will do me just fine. Thank you very much for reply and Happy New Biking Year 😉
@@ciulabula1 I tried to find my measuring calipers but couldnt find, but side wall to side wall was 32mm using ruler. The usable tread isnt that wide. Not gonna lie they don't feel like 32mm tires though, previously I used schwalbe pro 1 28mm which pumped up to 32mm and they felt big and the comfort came with that. But the pirelli feel every bit like 25mm tires that pump upto 28mm, is that too complicated haha. But comfortable enough, you can always lower tire pressure but I prefer them hard when I mash on the pedals
Hello. Will they be small? In fact, when installing, does the size correspond to or are they smaller in width than written on them?
Hi, might depend on rim width, im using the new Pirelli Pzero tubeless now and they measured 29mm. But when I was using the Cinturato tires im pretty sure they measured around 30mm, but it does depend on rim width a bit as well.
@@KurtisPape The box says 28 C, but in fact their width is 30mm, right?
@@Atlantis109 yea they are 28mm size, on a more narrow rim im sure they would measure 28mm, but for me they were just slightly wider. I had a 28mm Schwalbe Pro1 tire that measured to 32mm, and the 25mm size measured to 28mm so I would say the Pirelli tires are pretty accurate in width.
@@KurtisPape Are they fast in speed? I drive around the city, on dry asphalt to work. I have a bicycle road cube hyde race 2016, there are schwalbe marathon supreme evolution tires 42-622, but they are heavy and slow, I wanted to try these pirelli velo. Can I put them with a camera?
@@Atlantis109 Still happy with the Hyde Race, belt & hub? I was looking at this model but finally chose a Cross Race instead since I'm not commuting and have 10-20% bad trails.
I replaced the rear tyre with a Cinturato velo, so far, so good.
Not sure what you mean by "put them with a camera"...
Just bought a set of these. Box now says don’t fit on rims bigger than 19c.
Really! In 28mm?
So confused with this tires I ordered the 26mm and sidewall say not to use on rims wider than 19c. Is that 19mm? My rims are 21.6mm.
Yep someone told me about a month ago that they changed the max rim width from 20c to 19c for both 28c and 26c on 700c wheels... Confusing? Yea it is, why do they use 'c' all it means is mm for tires but 700c wheels are 622mm wtf! But when I comes to tires 26c are 26mm and 19c rim is 19mm. These tires are great yet poorly designed to only fit older narrow rims. Generally the wider the tire the wider rim you can go. So there is a high chance this tire / rim combo might not work unless your rims have a good bead hook where the tire seats.
@@KurtisPape thanks for the detailed reply.
Now I don’t know if I should risk it and try them or just send them back as I haven’t used them yet.
I do like they have much better protection than the conti GP5000 or Schwalbe Pro One tle.
I might keep the Pro one as they feel easier to mount vs the GP5000.
@@theflyerpr40d the schwalbe pro 1 set up really easy from my experience. If you have heaps of glass on the roads or ride lots of gravel I would say the schwalbe pro 1s do puncture easy, but nice roads they are fine. Pirelli have come out with another good tubeless tire. The 'P zero TLR race' im not sure on the rim width limits but I know they do work with hookless rims, which is a big difference from the cinturato. Honestly not sure if you should take tire back or not, but for safety concerns the tire can be a loose fit and blow off in a corner for example. Its a bummer to have to take stuff back :(
@@KurtisPape yes the Pro one TL was really easy to setup I only used the floor pump and was able to easily set it up is holding air about 80psi no sealant yet.
The Pirelli rim was leaking around the valve so would have to redo the tape around the valve and try again but was also able to pump it to 80psi.
I think I might risk it and keep the Pirelli if I fix the valve and they can hold air as good as the Pro One TL.
Dint even considered the other Pirelli versions.
What's the tyre pressure for 32mm Tubless?
Hey, would you recommend your polygon? And have there been any major issues with it’s performance since you have first owned it, because I am thinking of getting the ex7 and there aren’t to many reviews on the specific model so I just want to know how the ex9 is preforming.
Wow, thats random I just happened to be looking at the EX7 today! its the first time ive checked out Bicycles online in a year. The new 2020 EX7 looks great with the black and blue paint job. Way better than 2019 with all aqua blue. The new SLX drive
train seems pretty good so I would highly suggest. My EX9 has been great long term. Took to Canada and it handled Whistler with ease, jumps great and have no problem getting it sideways.
Im yet to do any major servicing on the bike other than fix creaks along the way which happens with almost every bike. I just found things like taking rear shock out cleaning and greasing points fixed creak and unbolted rear support and cleaned and greased, also just flushed out headset bearings and re-greased as there wasnt much grease from factory. The rear swing arm is reliable and have no issues with it. I did have a 1 off warranty problem with dropper post which I sent back and still wasnt fixed so I just got fox dropper post. Overall the bike rides insane.
Only weird thing I found which doesnt effect riding is I find it really had to do wheelstands, all other MTBs I can wheel stand with ease but this bike has a real weird balance point which is also a small balance point like its in 1 specific spot.
That’s really good to know that the bike has been amazing or you and thanks for the info
Great review! I'm planning to use 32mm on 23mm width tire (tubeless mode) is it still safe?
Hey, it should fit fine. It should be written on the box if you have to choice to get in store. But I'm building a gravel bike at the moment and I got some 23mm internal rims and they say they can take 50mm tires but I got some 35mm. But these pirelli tires are strange, make sure your rims are hooked, because they are not compatible with hookless and yes they prefer a narrow rim. Pirelli have some new tubeless tires that are hookless compatible and fit wider rims called the P zero race tlr.
Yeah its weird, for tire size 32c written on the box maximum inner width not greater than 21mm, for 32c its weird only max at 21mm :(
Now I'm using it at Hunt Gravel disc with 23mm inner width, and everything works fine...
@@ary6916 yea that's strange how they designed this tire. So did you set it up? As long as its sets up fine it will be fine. Even though mine are a loose fit, as long as I maintain good pressure above 40psi they are safe. Ive used heaps now and cornered hard on downhills and never had the tire fail, I have lots of trust in it.
@@KurtisPape Yeah already set up yesterday on tubeless (success on one attempt) but the bike handling feel weird, feels like flat tire - heavy steering) even the psi is maintain 50-60psi, so I change to clincher today and its all good. I'm not sure whether I put too much sealant (around 190ml for two wheels) or just wheels characteristic (35mm deep vs crosswind).
@@ary6916 I usually do 80ml per wheel. So 190ml combined is fine. My tires don't feel heavy. I swapped from the fastest tire at the time, the schwalbe pro 1 28mm to these and noticed no difference even over 100km rides. So I'm not sure why would feel heavy. Tubeless is tested to have lower rolling resistance and 60psi in 32mm tire is plenty if you are under maybe 85kg
I'm having the same problem setting up tubeless. What do you recommend using please?
Hey, have you got an air compressor? If so try to pump up without valve core in then quickly take air compressor off and put core back in, if done quick enough just then add pressure again. But if too slow it may pop onto bead but pop off again if it quickly hits 0 psi... It's really hard to do but I got the technique down pat.
The easy way I just found out is more rim tape! I used 25mm gorilla tape which was a little too wide but just fit and i could simply install tire with floor pump. With normal rim tape try 2 or 3 wraps. This has been a tip used for loose fitting mountain bike tires for years. Also watch this video m.th-cam.com/video/mWhlq-ky74s/w-d-xo.html this guy installs tire using straps.
Oh yea how I was originally doing it way using nitrogen cylinder. This is about 2200 psi but obviously have to regulate lower to maybe 200 psi. This pressure had no problem popping tire onto bead, but doing it a few times actually destroyed my rim tape because it's only rated to 150psi.
I have a DT Swiss R470, with a 20mm internal rim width, will these tires fit?
They would fit, mine are 20.7mm internal so that small .7mm difference could help heaps. They could be hard to set up tubless without air compressor but I would try 1 tire out first, if its hard to seat, replace rimtape with 2 or 3 wraps and the tire mounts a lot easier.
Kurtis Thank you so much for your reply, will do :)
@@nicholasmontoya5369 no worries, yea I forgot to say it is worth it though! I'm still using same set of tires and literally don't worry about punctures anymore.
Also can you fit a water bottle holder on the frame of the ex9?
Nope, no water bottle mounts.
I'm never doing a tubeless setup. I'd rather replace inner tubes than having to clean off caked sealant.
Bewertung zur Qualität des Reifens (28x622 / 700x28). Noch nicht auf der Straße getestet.
Montage erfolgte ohne Werkzeug und ohne Anstrengung, auf:
+Campagnolo Calima C17 Laufradsatz HG/ED (622x17c)
+mit Conti Race Tube 28 (700x20 - 700x25)
+auf dem ROSE PRO SL 105, Gr. 53cm
+verbaute Bremsen: SHIMANO 105 BR-R7000
+Der Reifen ist hochwertig verarbeitet
+keine sichtbaren Beschädigungen
+kein penetranter Geruch
+tolles Profil
+dicker und griffiger Gummi auf der Lauffläche
+tolles Design
Bei 7 Bar hat der Reifen eine Breite von 27,88mm und 27,95mm, es liegt wohl an dem geringen Luftdruckunterschied.
Aramid=Kevlar
Cheers, nice to know it's got Kevlar in it!
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