USMNT slammed for ‘LOSER MENTALITY’ after Copa America disaster | ESPN FC
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- On Futbol Americas, Herculez Gomez and Kasey Keller join Sebastian Salazar to assess the state of the USMNT, the future of Gregg Berhalter and the next steps for United States soccer after the men’s national team crashed out in the group stages of the 2024 Copa America.
✔ Subscribe to ESPN+: espnplus.com/soccer/youtube
✔ Subscribe to ESPN FC on TH-cam: bit.ly/SUBSCRIBEtoESPNFC - กีฬา
Every hour that goes by and the USSF doesn't announce they fired Gregg, we need to ask, " Why hasn't Gregg been fired?"
every second
USSF received price from other American sports ,because they don’t want soccer to be #1 in US
Players like him and he got rehired, he's going nowhere.
why don't we just fire the leadership team at USSF since they were the ones who picked Greg in the first place (mainly thanks to his big brother). I hate that our country embodies this "boys club" mentality
He is connected. They are trying to figure out what they can do to save him rather than address the reality.
“Loser mentality” Herc is 100% correct in his assessment. Gregg & co. have been way too comfortable and complacent and are now reaping the consequences.
World Cup 🚨 we don’t want to be humiliated like Brazil in 2014
Ya that coach a loser. But see Tim Weah he got that heavy KO power. I was blown away by how hard he knocked that spanish fool down. Tim Weah should be the new coach
Another way to say it is they were playing to not lose instead of playing to win.
@@Pantrice1 Not Tim Weah lls he was playin to knock out racists that shii was tuff not gon liee.
i really think it still comes down to talent pool. I spent the summer in an around Montevideo and I saw kids out side playing in the street late into the night.... in the USA kids whos parents put them into soccer are at home on tik tok or playing world of warcraft. I really think this is the part people arent talking about
Being afraid of firing Berhlater because the timing isn't perfect is a pathetic answer, yes it may not be ideal, but have a spine and open the checkbook. I guarantee you that any USMNT fan would rather see the team crash and burn in 2026 with someone else at the helm instead of this loser of a coach.
100% the result won't be better with Berhalter than any new coach.
Yeah that couch a loser. They tryna blame Tim Weah and his short temper for knockin the spanish dude out in the 18 min and going down a man. See thing is Weah and me we both from Brooklyn and we knock people out. The whole world is on notice that no one gonna bring their racism to the field as long as anybody from Brooklyn on the field. We go 0 to 100 we black as night
Maybe now is a great time to fire him. Get that new manager bounce
@@wgriffin3460ya, it’s not like a new coach could perform worse than Gregg
@@pupujinki4132 hope next coach have tim weah back wat do u think. the way they didnt give dude his flowers is some amateur stuff. ppl been saying weah was being racial abused whicch explain it all
USA 11th in the FIFA ranking, what a joke
The reason why that the USA was at 11th place is because bold man Greg berhalter wasn’t a head coach for us men’s soccer team there were good without him and no he’s back we’re lame but that’s my opinion.
Yea exactly! They are ahead of Uruguay, Germany, Colombia, and Morocco. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@franklinshaki9 yeah I understand but it still feels like a slap in the face to all the other nations
He won’t be there for long they’ll drop at least five places
And that’s perhaps a reason for unjustified expectations…
Kasey - now is the time. Stop making up excuses for your friend.
Not enough ppl talking bout Tim Weah not at fault for the red card. Ppl been sayin that the spanish dude was on some racial stuff an that wat set Tim Weah off. So realy its good Tim Weah flatten the fool bc there no place for racism and its not like the whole world didnt hear about the blm movement and how we dont stand for nun of that no more
@@PacmanBrunner lol, that's some loser mentality, right there!..."sticks and stones", and all dat. whatever was said, or done, he should have been a mfing man, and took it, and then returned 10x the damage on the field. instead, because he let some fool get power over him, he played an extremely large part in causing us to lose. sweet! 😒 imo, both he and sergino dest shouldn't be called up again. i'd rather have someone with less "talent" and more brains and self-control. 😠
To Casey Keller, ANYBOBY will be better than this moron we have now.
5 years wasted.
Casey, answer the question asked " is GGG the right coach for usmnt?" Are you satisfied with the status quo?
@@PacmanBrunnerstop making excuses. Weah himself admitted how stupid it was and blamed it 100% on himself
Kasey Keller needs to go too. Adds nothing to the discussion except excuses to help cover for his buddy who can't stop failing.
Kasey is doing a masterclass in speaking without saying anything. He will do whatever he can to avoid saying that his friend should be fired - his punditry is a conflict of interest.
How come he not saying nun bout Tim Weah what Im wondering
He’s no different than every white fan of futbol in America. Every fan of American success. Cause for every video that’s posted on American futbol, every conversation that’s had isn’t boiling down to this one simple factor. American Futbol is aristocratic allowed to be controlled by those with money which filters out underprivileged less financially fortunate but physically gifted children. Until money is put into black communities to play futbol (soccer) we will not see the overnight success we dream of. It’s simple science. When they let black players play in baseball those first teams got remarkably better than the others. When they let them play in football same result. In basketball, shall I say more. We have the fastest sprinters, the hardest kickers, the highest jumpers and literally none of them are playing for US soccer. If you want to win / get black people in.
@@cryptoscircus6880bro half the us team is black, what you on
@@cryptoscircus6880has nothing to do with getting in black people and everything to do with getting in kids that aren’t hand fed and born with silver spoons in their mouths, we need people with a desire to be great and better and a hunger to win. The federation is corrupt and it’s obvious by the D3 college coach we have in charge still not getting sacked when he’s already overstayed his welcome.
If Gregg is not gone, this could be the beginning of the end. They will loose a lot fans.
Fans? The same fans who are out numbered in 90% of home matches?
Yes ggg needs to be fired but let’s stop pretending this country actually cares
@@stewartrickertthey do when the World Cup comes around
@@francisf9672 agreed and as a US fan it saddens me but also the problems here are deeper than Gregg . He’s A problem yes, the most obvious problem, ok… but the only problem with this team? I can’t go that far
lose
I blame tim weah
we are wasting time. World Cup is not too far, the decision on Berholter needs to happen ASAP
I keep saying the same thing. We're on the verge of a huge embarrassment with this WC that we're. This would be unacceptable by any other major country that is spending this much money on a team. I'm not sure we would have qualified for the WC if we weren't hosting. We might might not win a game in the WC at this rate. Everyone needs to go because even the players are entitled
Atleast in theory, a good manager could adjust a lot within months. Although not without playing for practice.
Imagine they make George Weah the head coach that need to happen they bait Tim Weah by calling him racial names
Delusion is assuming the coach actually matters , which i can’t blame you for … since media BEEN hyping up American players playing overseas as “ world class “. Please spare me , pulisic is the most talented American we’ve had EVER … that doesn’t mean we should compete with countries producing talent every year … no coach wants to coach a mediocre team with out of touch media personnel LYING to fans about how good we are SUPPOSE TO BE… ta a joke. We barely beat Mexico yearly and other teams use their b side against them and win with ease. Wake up and realize you are GENERATIONS from winning anything. Your coach did the best job with these players , it’s YOU FANS who are ruining the process
US won't make it out of the group anyway, no matter who the coach is. Soccer just isn't that big of a deal here.
~~~ After watching Brazil vs Columbia last night, you quickly realize those teams have both SPEED and PASSION in heaps. It appears we have neither.
My thoughts exactly, those 2 teams wanted to win, You could see the passion clear as day. We didn't have that, and it's very disappointing.
yes and much more quality on the ball
Agree, but Brazil is another example of bad coaching affecting the talent on the field. Brazil has the best players in the world, yet they looked lost on the field. Colombia could’ve won that game 2-1 if they had better finishers.
@@AwkwardAuctionto be fair, those players are Brazils second and third stringers being developed for the WC. I agree Brazil has bad coaching, but they have world class talent to overcome that. Brazil could form like 4 different national teams if they wanted to. USA can’t even compete with their very best
ColOmbia
Kasey shilling for his boy Berhalter and losing any credibility he has left as an analyst.
long as they leave my brrooklyn brother tim weah alone he cool and credible
Kasey not being willing to criticize Gregg is just a perfect example of the country club mentality that keeps all these mediocre ex players running USSF
If the USSF had any guts they’d make a huge offer to John Herdman. With his brains and what he can do with real talent. Combined with the funding the admin has. The USA will be impressive for the WC. But they better get him in quick.
GGG was playing for a draw against Uruguay; that's why he was sharing the Bolivia-Panama score. Even if they got grouped, GGG could spin it as a "close - well played" tournament; placing being grouped on the red card. Losing makes it harder for him to make those arguments. I hated the lack of offense this tournament as well as over the last 2 years -- it has been tough to watch. GGG's record against top 30 ELO teams (excluding Mexico) speaks volumes: 2-8-10. Yes, 2 wins and 10 losses. Two freaking wins. GGG cannot remain the manager...period.
It doesn’t matter who is in management when we aren’t fielding the best talent. Sports corruption is very real, and is thriving in Mexico and USA. Sports is the least important thing in a country, but if Bukele wants to prove a point, he can do make El Salvador 🇸🇻 a powerhouse by taking the best talent and not the kids with connections.
@@acuda27 Sure -- I get that pay to play is a broken system. We all get that. But the question now is whether we are maximizing the talent that is reaching the USMNT level. I think it is clear that under GGG, we are not. Let's fix what can be fixed now, and then over time make changes at the local levels and fix the pay-to-play system.
Contrast with someone like klopp who plays to win even harder when ten men down
@@acuda27of course corruption happens, it does everywhere where it’s big bucks. But, teams with less talent have provided more, because of hunger to win and the ability to play as a team. Look at the euros. How many players can you name in the Swiss team? I bet zero. Yet they are well out of their group, won their first knockout match , and are now playing quarterfinals.
Uruguay was never going to lose that game. They have great players and a world-class coach in Bielsa who not only understands Uruguayan soccer, he has clear strategies that the players know how to follow. All that aside, Uruguayans breathe, eat and drink soccer. None of those things are true for this US team
yeah but they racist too against the usa thats why the refs let them have that goal that was offside. the fix was in usa lost because of the refs and tim weah red card that was weak
@@PacmanBrunnerhe threw a punch out at a player. Even Weah said he was wrong. In ANY league you get red carded for that. Second the US had three shots on target the whole game even if the goal was disallowed they would’ve been knocked out cuz Panama took care of business against Bolivia. Something US didn’t do against Uruguay.
@@ssassinb3n756 u must missed the part where us soccer said tim weah was being racially abused. if u not Black u could never understand wat its like. Also the panama player flopped. the racial climate we in we need to examine things from the real victims mindset not from our living room
Exactly, well said, perfect definition 💪👍👏👏👏 An Uruguayan here.
@@monicavidal5394 When ppl from uruguay stand up for Black folk cuz the racism we suffer is when we stand wit yall who tryna come into this country over the border. Yall want to come in here to Brooklyn NYC and take our resources and services but dont want to put in time to learnn about our issues and how structural racism keeps us down
lol casey CANNOT get himself to criticize gregg berhalter
Long as he dont say nun bout Tim Weah he cool in my book. Tired of the racism against Tim Weah. He had to knockout the dude cuz ppl been saying online the spanish guy was racist
@@PacmanBrunnerit’s not racism, it’s criticism. Stop with the victim mentality, y’all look weak.
@@crimsonstreamsussoccer pointedly referenced racism...stop being a bully and telling the victim its ok to be bullied...nothing strong in that either
@@lowercentenary thank u the racism is out of control these days
@@crimsonstreams if we look weak then how come we knockout the spanish dude falt on the ground like that?? tim weah can ball he play for juve but he also do got the brooklyn knockout power. psa dont come to brooklyn with ur racist attitude bc ppl get knocked out flat
Berhalter: "it's 1-1!!"
USMNT: "okay guys, let them score so we can get Gregg fired."
tim weah super smart he could probably be coach or even us soccer ceo in the future. in the end it was good he was sent off.
Herc is doing a...dare I say...Herculean job of not dropping the F bombs that are quite clearly on the tip of his tongue!
long as he dont blame tim weeah for everything he alright in my book. wat u think is wrong wit da team
We have no one with a Dempsey type mentality on this team. Never seen such an apathetic attitude. That starts with the coach.
And before him was Donovan, and before him was Lalas. We need someone like Dempsey those guys, we may not win, but we can leave it all in the pitch. Like Romania, Georgia (I'm talking effort not quality, which those nations in my humble opinion are above the US).
There Tim Weah he got swag an he a leader. Sucks the spanish dude had to go racist on him and get KO
@@PacmanBrunneryour leader got himself a red card and threw the game away regardless what was said he should have composed himself and show his skills by scoring and making them uncomfortable by tackles taking the ball away
@@PacmanBrunneryou’re confused. The dude Weah hit/slapped is Roderick Miller. He’s black. The racial abuse against Weah was after the game, by bigoted keyboard warriors.
@@Felipe-fw3tx First things first Weah did not slap anyone he KO the spanish dude he flattened him on the ground. Second thing is ppl saying the spanish dude was being racist before he got his world rocked. He might be tan but he not Black from USA which mean he do not suffer like we do. Racism is not okay and we need to address it when it show it ugly face. If we got to KO dude in the 18 minute then thats wat we gon do. We tired of it.
The media hasn’t done this generation of players any favors by crowning them the golden generation without playing the quality of the generations before them. This should be the golden generation because everything was handed to them. They play more like the silver spoon generation
That last sentence
silver? That means they have to win at least occasionally. This is the lead spoon generation
I believe the more appropriate description was used by Lalas years ago when Bruce Arena was at the helm…
“Soft, underperforming tattooed millionaires. You are a soccer generation that has been given everything. You are now a generation on the verge of squandering everything.”
@@marinerman Lalas is a a part of the problem. He's been defending USSF up until it doesn't suit him anymore and some of his takes are so baffling I question if he watches the sport or not.
Its the golden generation based off of talent that each player has.
No one is saying it. Berhalter’s brother works for the federation.
I’m glad people are calling out Casey’s lack of courage to speak the truth on his friend. Hard listen
me too im glad tim weah fly under the radar cuz we both from brooklyn lls
Too many people making excuses for this team...I'm sick of hearing "the refs screwed us" or " He just made a mistake he'll learn from this" or "Golden generation" lol . Face it, the team is bad..no discipline, no good coaching.
The golden generation title bothers me the most lol yes they have a lot of players who are playing on club teams and having success but as a group what has this usmnt accomplished ? So I agree I can’t stand that title they got without earning it
Horrible coaching
@@jordanarriola9398ye that title needs to go lol they haven’t had any notable international accomplishments
@jordanarriola9398 besides pulisic and mckennie who is having club success? Maybe Antonella Robinson and team ream.
Ream is 36. The GK Turner doesn't play. Weah is a bench player at juventus. Gio Reyna got kicked put of everywhere he played. Tyler Adams and musah are rotational players. Sargent is a clown and Wright is a proper forward but in the second division of England.
Dest gets kicked out of everywhere he plays. Carter a clown . Balogun is an OK player. The rest of the team or the bench are subpar.
What this means is that you got 3 or 4 very good players out of 26 . None of them elite. And one of them is 36.
Facts, in football it doesn’t matter if you play well and don’t score. That’s real futbol
Six years ago, Taylor Twellman was screaming, “What are we doing?!” after Trinity and Tobago eliminated the US from going to the World Cup 2018. Seems like history is repeating itself.
The broadcaster in glasses is delusional..
He just covers for the federation.
yup whole team is cooked its a shame no one stepped up to defend tim weah when he was was being abused by the panama player. very possible racism related incident occured right before
He was teammates and friendly with Berhalter. Some guys like to keep their special access so they play nice. It's pathetic.
@@PacmanBrunner Oh no not lacist. 🤣
@@PacmanBrunner i give up
If Berhalter doesn’t get replaced for the 2026 WC, I’m done with USMNT, not because of the players, but the little respect from the federation to the people.
USSF need to suck it up. You made the WRONG decision to keep Berhalter after a 6 month review. You need to make it right and get rid! Not only that but you’ve put the pressure on that the next decision you make NEEDS to be the right one.
Not only Kasey talks without saying anything interesting but also he interrupts others when they try to
Keller is infuriating here. This is the type of BS holding us back. Berhalter out.
the way they threw tim weah under the bus was some racial bs too
Of course Keller won’t say he should be gone, they’re friends
Stop talking about how 'talented' the USMNT is. They haven't shown it. The truth is the Gap is BIG between the US and the teams of the World. Face the facts. Stop making excuses, Kasey
Boycott until Greg is gone
Ppl been saying Greg should leave an take Tim Weah wit him wat u think about that. Im on the fence
and boycott if they disipline tim weah it not his fault he got heavy hands and ko the dude. the spanish cat flopped and ppl online been saying he was prolly being racist
Boycott until Pulisic joins MLS
@@davidday2373 pulisic not gone save u. Us soccer going nowhere till we addtess the racism Tim Weah suffer
@@PacmanBrunner Who is Tim Weah?
If Greg is still the manager by World Cup, then I hope USA gets. ZERO points as the host nation
You wouldn't need to "hope." It would be a certainty.
its the only way things would change
George Weah should be made coach since the spanish teams was racist against Tim Weah
That make no sense. If you're in the WC, and cared for your team, you would want to win regardless. Your hate is over-powering your sense. That's the bad karma that you people create for yourselves.
@@PacmanBrunner aint no way
Here are the USSF board names. These are the people that must be held accountable for the terrible system that we have of identifying youth players and developing them all the way to the MLS fiasco. Twitter is probably best. These rich, incompetent people are armpit buddies of Berhalter and the “Royal families” like the Reyna’s. Note that only 1 of the board are Latinos, despite Latinos being 50% of youth players in men’s football
• Cindy Parlow Cone
• Nathán Goldberg Crenier
• JT Batson
• John Collins
• Lisa Carnoy
• Fritz Marth
• John Motta
• Carlos Cordeiro
• Don Garber
wah cry bout latino. dont u know Black ppl are being given least opportunity in soccer. if anyone we need more Black ppl on the boards and rosters and coaching not latino ppl u have a whole continent
Kasey proves why the USMNT is in the position they’re in. All excuses, excuses and excuses. No more excuses. More should be demanded from the richest country in the world. Period.
the mindset of this team being the golden generation is laughable, they talk about players being at big clubs across Europe but they’re all primarily subs/utility players for those clubs.
Tim Weah dad was world star and Tim Weah himself play for Juventus he is a world renonwn superstar
@@PacmanBrunner Timothy Weah has and never will be world renowned star, he’s the definition of a utility player, started his career as striker and has slowly moved further and further away from the goal to playing a bit part player as a right back/right wing in a 3 back nothing more nothing else.
@@toplis25 u need glasses he was playing striker in the game when he knock the dude out. and after he got sent off everyone knew team usa was done bc tahts what kind of impact he have on the game. dont be a casual
Haha, you’re only making my point even further that a right back for their club plays up front the USMNT
@@toplis25 he versatile he could play any position on the field he got that skill. cant believe u dont kno this about him. no offense when did u start watching
Look at the final minutes of the Türkiye-Austria game. The Turks clinging to a 1-0 lead, Austria pressing. As the game ends, at least half of the winning Turkish team collapses, chests heaving and spent.
Has the US team put in that level of commitment?
Crocker and berhalter should be exchanging resignatuon papers. Both are unfit for duty. Cronyism, nepotism and pay to play is ruining ussoccer.
Who is the nepotism? I know ur not talking about Tim Weah cuz who his dad is. He can really ball out and he play for Juve he earned his colros. If not Tim Weah then who u talkin bout
If this isn't rock bottom for USA mens soccer, I can only imagine it getting worse with Gregg still at the helm.
Ok, this is starting to get stupid. I understand Kasey's reluctance to call for Berhalters resignation because he's friends with the guy. That said, Greg has to go. Overall, yes, Berhalter has a pretty great record as head coach - 43 wins and 17 losses i think it is. And yes, he's got some trophies. But Gold Cup, Nations League, friendlies, these are all overwhelmingly against nations that we quite frankly are supposed to be winning against..... Trinidad and Tobago, Cuba, Suriname, etc. So it's not like that record is the one that matters. It's the Top 20 record that matters, and he cannot get the best out of his players for any of those games. His record is 0-6-5 against Top 20 teams as a head coach. That's pathetic, it's embarrassing, and with the tremendous amount of talent he is blessed with, there is no reason that modern day American players cannot be competitive with other Top 20 teams. The writing is on the wall people. B.J. Callahan, Berhalter's right hand man, has already left the national team and accepted the head coaching job with Nashville F.C. Wholesale change is coming to the USMNT, and rightfully so.
I think the whole structure of us soccer leads to your national team's poor performances under pressure.
1. No pro/rel so no tuff "go getter" players
2. Pay to play so drastic cut into your talent pool
3. Weak manager, never has GB coached at say Europa league level
4. Mid table club players so no expérience of edge matches at à high level.
You, as a federation, are simply not nearly at the level required to compete.
You’re never getting pro-rel in the US. So go ahead and stop talking about it cause no one is buying teams and TV contracts just for teams to be relegated. Plus, Pro-Rel usually requires the removal of the salary cap, which means small markets can’t compete anymore, and the small markets are currently the ones producing the best talent right now in MLS.
I agree that pay-for-play sucks. It’s infected basically every sport in America as well, with Little League baseball being replaced by travel ball and AAU being the go-to in basketball. The problem is that there’s really no solution short of Congressional intervention. And that’s not happening either. I DO believe the academy systems have been working very well though so far, so maybe that will be the work around.
The coach is 100% the biggest and most easily fixable problem. GGG should’ve never been the coach to begin with, and he should not be the coach now. THIS is where I am perfectly comfortable lambasting the federation. Open your pocketbook and get a quality coach.
The players have talent. I don’t believe that they are worse talent wise than virtually any CONCACAF team. And your logic doesn’t even support them being bad either, since teams like Uruguay and Panama have zero players over in Europe. Most simply play in South America or MLS. Frankly, where these players are playing doesn’t mean much anyways. Iceland players didn’t play anywhere significant, but they played HARD and had a dedicated system that played to their strengths. The USMNT doesn’t have that and THAT needs to change.
also they didnt back up tim weah when he got kicked off so no team chemistry. we love tim weah and it not his fault he ko the spanish racist dude
Gregg should’ve been sacked after the Colombia Mach and he said “it was a wake up call”
You are the coach. You are the wake up call. Shows he doesn’t know how to prepare your team. And that’s 90% of what an international manager does. Get your team ready
Casey is calling for legitimacy, but then trying to make an argument to keep a coach because it might be too close to ’26? Ok..
Greg friend really tryna help him keep his job 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡
Yeah that guy dont kno wat he doing lllss
all the wokeness really making sure he doesnt
@@greenwave819 lmao that makes no sense you’re just a weirdo
MLS is a weak league dominated by elderly cast-off. The US national team needs a coach from outside of MLS.
16:07 BIASED. I think Kassy's response could have been better here. Yes an international coach doesn't have the same relationship with the players as a club manager, but everyone should know that going into the job. In general, Kassy is beating around the bush. Which seems to be influenced by bias. 12:48 "Look, Greg has been a friend of mine for 20-30 years". -Kassy, 4 mins earlier
Yeah and at the same time saying oh 2 years so long. Well having more time would give you more of a chance to build a relationship. Or oh the top candidate might not be available. Yes Gaurdiola will never come but almost all coaches are better then Greg and there are plenty top ones available.
It is VERY obvious that Kassy totally agrees with the other two, but can't make him say so because of his friendship with Greg.
@@The_Judge300he needs to break up
Problem with US Soccer is this cult like mentality and this good old boy network. This is why we can't grow. Cut the cord.
The problem is that they are all overrated. Media here has hyped them as if they were the next Argentina when they are in fact just the same old USA.
No one in the USA thinks we are Argentina, we expect to at least make it out of group stage
@@vulcanvulcan2963i think you missed his point man
i dont think that is correct cuz tim weah is a superstar he play for juventus he well known in Brooklyn where we both from and the whole world. usa is land of the hollywood lights and fame
Tim weah is not a superstar dude. Hes a decent player but calling him a superstar is as laughable as the US's overall performance. @PacmanBrunner
@@mattquinn2215 He is a superstar he a shousehold name out here in Brooklyn where he from. Funny thing I never heard of any Matt Quinn in my life lllsssss. U have a favorable idea of him calling him decent so u ook in my book. U should see the racial bs against him its out of ccontrol
Hire Argentinian coach and translator.
Problem solved.
Let’s face it. Tim weah is to blame first and then Greg.
USA...... Major Tournaments always strive for this 1-1-1 mediocre
usa #1 tho when it comes to ko power. u see tim weah flatten the dude??
How does the US have a FIFA ranking of 11 and we lost to #14 Uruguay and #43 Panama?
Who are we paying off?
It is because of golden cup USA has been winning! However, that is on paper. It is all bunch of statistics. Never consider any FIFA Ranking. Those are on paper and not on the field or reality
Everyone knows the FIFA rankings are skewed, don't bother believing them
bro the rankings dont mean anything.... clearly...
So they hired Crocker to what, keep GGG on the team? What hold does GGG have on US Soccer? What's so hard about firing him? And he still hasn't accounted for his mistakes.
As long as MLS and Soccer United Marketing have their grip on the USSF, nothing will change, in my opinion. Same for the FMF. Nothing will change with Mexico until Televisa and TV Azteca stop calling the shots.
and if they take tim weah off the team they will be set back for years. he is a superstar and the primary heartbeat of the team and nation. maybe the couch need to go tbh wat do u think
Kasey moving like prime Neville defending Solksjaer
It’s our fault we are so upset lol Everyone has been trying to tell us we ain’t that good and we just don’t hear them. Gregg can’t play on the defensive back line and he can’t play #9 so I don’t see why everyone is so upset with him. Let’s just face the music and realize that this edition of the USMNT is exceptionally deficient in more than one area and it is that way because we have no quality options at several positions.
it is strange that the only national football team in the world insists to make sure to tell everyone that it is the men's team, I don't see France saying France national men's team or Brazil national men's team
I know Jurgen wasn't the best coach but why did they fire him? Seems like he was getting the best results for the US. Since then we've had MLS level coaches
Just stop all the expectations already. Football is meant to remind America that you can’t be good at everything.
We shouldn't expect to beat Panama?
@@BlackBart304b the USA should not expect to beat any country that respects the game 100x more than we do.
The US team is not simply a coach away from success. The talent on that team isn't that good, no matter any amount of coaching. If players are that brittle enough to collapse just by hearing the score of another game, then you have the wrong players out there. I hate to say this, but the players need to be criticized - we criticize individual players in every other sport but for some reason in soccer they are shielded from all of it by the analysts who just bang on the coaching over and over and over and over...
It's better than it ever was before, and that's the point. How have worse squads with less talent in lower leagues like MLS played some pretty crazy upsets done more than this team who are all technically better and play in much more competitive leagues? Make that make sense.
Why don’t we criticize the coach and the players? Everything is just focused on the coach, who deserves criticism, but so do the players
because we have to be woke
Best edition of this panel and keller finally showed the square he is 😂
US Soccer needs to hire an Argentine coach. Stop being US only.
argentina a racist country look into its history. us soccer got lot of Black footballers so we dont need someone from a raciast country
SHUT DOWN the UsMnT. Yes, coach has issues, BUT THE PLAYERS do not care
The moment you'll start calling it football and put some passion into it who knows what can happen ☠️
Too many international teams with clueless manager managing their golden generation players and one of them is US. LET'S BE REAL.
"golden generation"? That's where it's all wrong
Looking at you, South Korea!
Golden generation 😂 not one player that gets in Frances, Portugal, England or Argentinas squad.
@@matthewjennings5893or Brazil, Uruguay, Colombia, Italy, Bosnia, etc. bunch of overrated bums brought over to Europe solely to infiltrate the American market
@@matthewjennings5893 Golden generation = that's the best group of players you had at the same time.
It doesn't mean they are great. If you usually average players rated 20/100, but suddenly get a bunch of players at the same time averaging 40/100, that's your golden generation, even if they are trash. It's the best you ever had.
Another example is England has a good squad at the moment but it is NOT their golden generation because the generation of Scholes, Seaman, Beckman, Cole, Shearer, etc. etc. was on paper much better.
The joke and the bizarre is that team ranked 11th in the FIFA ranking!! The deserved must be 100th.
Was it our coach that threw that right hook 8 mins into the Panama game?
Keller trying his damnedest to save his friends job? Basically by doing a what if the other guy is worse. That's not how things work lol.
Idk whose worst Bergalter or his defendant Timothy Keller.... gosh Keller is so bad and annoying. Idk why we're still talking about this. Berhalter should have been fired instantly after the game 😊
He got his check.
Pep Guardiola wants to coach a national team.
And yet US Soccer can't make him an offer to entice him here because of "equal pay."
We would have to pay the USWNT manager the same as Pep Guardiola, which would be psychotic because no USWNT manager would be anywhere near Pep's level and prestige.
why is that a issue wat do u have against equal pay.
@PacmanBrunner the USWNT may have better performances than the Men but they don't generate nearly the revenue the Men do either. That pay lawsuit was nonsense and USSF are idiots for agreeing to that deal. If USSF pays big for Pep they also have to give the womens manager the same pay regardless of performance or revenue generated
Guardiola or even klopp would likely not accept the job to begin with unless they knew the national team in discussion had a chance of winning which is clear usa does not, and dont come at me with “theyll like a challenge” did you not notice what team guardiola came from before city? Its like asking him ti take on nottingham forest, he wouldnt!! These type of coaches want to manage teams that can win throphies not “a challenge”.🤦🏻♂️
Uruguay was nice to us. They played a much more conservative game than they had previously.
Austria v Turkey yesterday put this thinking in high relief. Don't play scared. Yes, you might give up a goal, but you need to win. Go out and score. Play to win!!!
Need to addres the racist referee who sent off Tim Weah
The reason behind usa being ranked 11th in fifa world ranking is bc USA faces concacaf opposition which after a victory over Honduras for example is awarded the same points as Germany for beating Spain, and when usa or mexico or canda or whoever from cacacaf is faced vs Germany or Spain its when we see the diference and huge gap that exists and see the ranking for what it truly is “an ilusion”. Any victory over any concacaf nation should in my opinion (and for example) award only 0.25 and not a whole point like Europeans or south americans bc concacaf is in fact the weakest football federation in the world.
Oh i did not know this btw we(netherlands)are currently ranked 7th what rank will we be if we win the euros?
@@Querientjei dont know bro i only wanted to say that concacaf should not award the same points when competing against itself as do the European teams so that we have a more realistic fifa ranking dont you think?
@@dagosegovia843 np personally i think it doesnt compute belgium for intsance are above us for the last 10 years or so while they achieve nothing we made the semi final of the last world cup and lost to argentina on penalties were stil in the euros now while they are out
@@Querientje USA has not made the any wc semifinal bro what you smoking?
Let's be honest USA are clueless when it comes to football not in their culture this they will always struggle against top 20 teams .
USA live in their own little bubble thinking they are progressing when in reality they are further away than ever before. Even smaller sides in Europe are progressing way faster than USA .. look at Slovenia, Slovakia, Georgia and I would bet they wouldn't win against any of them especially if they can't beat Panama
They lose in football like they lose in wars 😂
There are MLS players on the USMNT, Gressel, Miazga, Mihailovic to name just 3. Yes they're not necessarily starting but they could.
USSF simply overrates their talent, the truth is they don't have world class talent, especially on offense, there really needs to be a realistic assessment on the team's technical aptitude, Pulisic is not that great of a player and we kept hyping him up as a perennial Balon d'Or contender. Lastly stop celebrating 5-0 wins against the likes of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands, they mean nothing and is not a measurement of progress.
Preach!!!!!!!!!!!
No US fan thought he was ever going to be a Balon d’Or candidate lmaooooo
uruguay are 2 time world cup winners, most copa America titles with Argentina... they most recently defeated brazil and Argentina(not only beat them but absolutely thumped them)... why do these people think usmnt ever had a chance to begin with 🤣
Uruguay won by 1 questionable goal, they definitely had a chance. Yall act like Uruguay dropped 3 on them
@@vulcanvulcan2963”it’s 1-1 guys!! 🤪”
No one thought we were gonna win, it was all hope and the fact that we needed the win. I swear y'all have some of the worse English comprehension ever
Not friendlies those wins were for WC qualification.
@@vulcanvulcan2963A 0-0 score would’ve changed nothing. US still out.
You guys need Louis Van Gal. He'll get you organised & is an experienced tournament coach.
The US must be pissed that Canada is in the Qtr finals.
Theyre pissed that every concacaf nation competing in this copa america made more points than them except jamaica, when a week prior to this tournament they argued the posibility to play the final vc argentina 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Berhalter is the Joe Biden of US soccer
Loser mentality starts at the very top with an organization more concerned with promoting wokeness as opposed to making players compete for their positions and results.
Ppl been sayin that they also been saying Tim Weah had lot to do wit it. Im not sure Im on the fence. Should Weah stay on team?
this guy keller said uruguay didn’t concede one goal panama scored on uruguay
At halftime I turned to my family and friends and said, "I think there was 15 minutes after actual game play, and dud we even have a single shot?"
Watching Americans talk about football is just so weird ...
Why?
The referring wasn't that bad. People are just making it worse to be because the US is out.
He made two critical mistakes:
1. Not giving the US player a red card for a last man tackle on Nicolas de la Cruz in the 35th minute
2. Giving the Uruguay player and allowing quick play. He should of stopped it instead of letting Uruguay getting a quick hit (and i'm from Uruguay telling you this)..
The game was aggressive. The USA came out kicking but no one talks about that.
You say he wasn't that bad but then mentioned he made TWO critical mistakes AHAHAHAHAH
Two critical mistakes are actually a big deal. Top referees don't make any. ZERO. Meanwhile he had TWO that no one can defend.
@@gost3480 also tim weah didnt deserve a red card if he was being racial abused which is wat the world round is
@@PacmanBrunner so just because he was being racially abuse he should be allowed to punch someone? AHHAHAHAHAHA🤣🤣
If thats the case everyone should punch someone when the ref is far and just claim racial abuse afterward
👍
How do you ensure the video remains engaging from start to finish?
Reffing was all-time worst. I don't know how Keller can say with a straight face that the reffing didn't affect that outcomes. In the Panama game, the ref changed the card from yellow to red despite the replay not showing anything more than Weah grazing a player's head upon pushing him back after he got in his space. The ref basically rewarded a thug play and gave a result away. And in the Uruguay game, the ref literally allowed an offside goal. Nobody is saying that goal wasn't offside. There's no f'ing excuse for that if you're using video replay.
The naivety of the US media is shocking. From alexi lalas and the rest. The dismissive way of speaking about Panama when you're playing against a team that wanted it more is when u pick up an L. Yes Panama played dirty but this is normal in Copa, get with it. Some pundits like Friedel and Dempsey are more balanced in their opinion but the US aren't that team as yet. The US federation got rid of klinsman and he was teying to build mentality first, but some divas on the team got hurt and player power and a bad run of results got the manager fired.
True, however at the same time Greg is not the person for the job. As there is no progress and everything is apathetic.
It’s funny that these pundits think that the USA team is good enough to compete with any half decent team.
I mean seriously, look at most of these South American teams, they all have at least 2,3,4,5 absolutely world class players whereas the USA has zero. Those South American teams also have a lot of fight and togetherness which the US team does not. It’s literally like saying a championship team can beat a premier league team………… maybe once in a blue moon but for the most part, no chance don’t kid yourselves! Stay in your lane, you are a third tier team like the irans, Greece, South Korea, Australia of the world!
Yep 100% true
What are smoking buddy, besides Brazil and Argentina there's no world class players in South America teams, I'm a Liverpool fan and trust me Darwin Nunez and Luis dias are nowhere near being world class, they are pretty good players so chill out bro
@@gustavosandoval4480 you are smoking crack, what US player is better than Nuñez? And I mean not today players but of all time. Who is better than any of those 2? What US player is better than Araujo or Valverde?
I have to disagree. While the team is certainly not a top one and has quite a few holee in it, the criticism comes from them being below the level of their talent. There is no way this team should've missed the knockout stage. In all 3 games they did not show consistent quality. Particularly, disappointing was their first 2 games against weaker opponents and they did not look nearly as good as they should've. We are not on th3 level of any of the top teams in this tournament or in the world. The hope is for this team to get experience ane improve ane hopefully we can actually win a round or 2 as WC hosts. This was a big opportunity missed for that development and fans and pundits are frustrated with the hype around our team, but the lack of any real improvement or tangible results.
@@tomydurazno6243so the standard for world class is if they are better than USMNT players?
Nunez and Dias are great players but when I think of world class I think of Haaland or Mbappe.
Keller’s analysis is fantastic
Bro this u.s squad is the best i've seen in a long time, coach has to keep these guys active playing big games, they got a bright future
Especially Tim Weah it suck he KO the dude but he got serious skill. Who ur favorite player?
Thank you Kasey, atleast I know why you protect Gregg now. He’s your boy, i understand. But who do you love more your friend or US soccer?
To me, great in depth discussion. But the fact that we're sitting here treading water speaks volumes to the lack of ambition of USMNT and the USSF. It's almost like a "hey we made it, look at us, mentality". Versus what is reality - a team not in one of the big federations that has never, and continues not to, be relevant on the world stage. We cannot compete for a lesser international trophy AT HOME. We did NOT get out of a group that has PANAMA and BOLIVIA. This is right up there with being knocked out of the world cup in 2018.
If it ain't broke, you don't fix it. But getting knocked out of a tournament at home, in this group. It should be inexcusable. It starts from the top down and the complacency is pretty disgusting. NOW would be the time to act, you have 60 ish days until the next friendlies before WC qualifying really starts to heighten.
Its like there's no accountability. Weah acting a fool against Panama - who is holding him accountable? the Coaching. I loved when they panned to him during USA v. Uruguay and he's just chilling with his air pods. There seems to be no expectations or higher standard of accountability, only the fans and pundits seem to expect it which is bad that its external not internal oversight.
Not getting good results time after time, its almost embarrassing given the talent pool and depth that is becoming available versus this competition. There needs to be higher expectations because what they continue to send out there just simply isn't enough.
Greg telling them about the other game is something you do if the other game is sealed and its 0-0 in this game with 5 mins left, ok so you need to tell them to play smart, not with how much time is left tho
If we hire other coaches, then we lose and have nothing to lose. We are already at the bottom. Fking just fires Gregg and hires a new one with a fresh start.
It is not about "character" and wanting it more and all of that nonsense. This is purely tactical. Berhalter does not know how to manage the quality players he has. These players are playing in Europe because they wanted to prove themselves as Americans; they clearly have heart. USA needs a coach who is able to create a defined system of play and also be able to adapt when teams are out playing them.
Wait Gregg still has not been fired!!! Geesh these guys plan that this will die down and keep him. It is a shame!
At the end of the day it’s the players. That red card was the reason why this team is out of the tournament.
It never helps when u down a player. Tim Weah is the machine that runs the team there was no way the team lose without him on the field. Thats why they target him and give him that bs red card.
exactly
I still don't understand the logic in rehiring Gregg. He had problems getting along with players. it is his way or tbe highway and last time around his results were also disappointing.
This team has no identity on the field - zero soul
That's tournament football, you get a player sent off for punching someone, you get knocked out of the tournament.