The Mystery of Hegel

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  • Robert M. Wallace reads his paper and discusses Hegel.

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  • @abohnad
    @abohnad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think im in love with your channel. please more but good quality discussions like this one.

  • @theseventh7865
    @theseventh7865 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely convivial feeling to this, thank you!

  • @jimrobertson1812
    @jimrobertson1812 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Questioning, discussion, shared efforts ... interesting!

  • @thenowchurch6419
    @thenowchurch6419 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent discussion gentlemen.
    Excellent intro to Hegel.

  • @divinuminfernum
    @divinuminfernum 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I read somewhere in a biography on Hegel that he wasnt so much influenced by Kant but moreso by people like Rousseau and Spinoza and Aristotle, and his work is something of a break with Kant

    • @StephenSchleis
      @StephenSchleis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True.

    • @adaptercrash
      @adaptercrash ปีที่แล้ว

      That fucked up continental subdivision that use to live in UK or something and migrated to ancient Roman demographic demolition

    • @jmgresham93
      @jmgresham93 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the Complete Works of Aristotle. :P

    • @firstal3799
      @firstal3799 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both Kant and Greeks were influenced by Hindu philosophy

  • @b.alexanderjohnstone9774
    @b.alexanderjohnstone9774 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's comforting to know that all my ancestors (English) didn't really get it either & found this stuff impenetrable/impractical nonsense. To be more serious I do respect and am determined to understand Hegel.

  • @starlightengramA
    @starlightengramA 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's difficult to think in a world where and when people know so much and yet know so little.

  • @frederickfreedcomposer4833
    @frederickfreedcomposer4833 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @JediMindG
    @JediMindG 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I looked up play-doh In a philosophy dictionary. it punched me in the face

  • @willdaly9800
    @willdaly9800 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    mind blowing comment at the end.. "hipsters" and even anti-hipsters are still embodiments of the spirit of modern authenticity and individuality... nobody's moved beyond that yet

  • @RadicalShiba1917
    @RadicalShiba1917 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What would you or anyone else here recommend for a beginners guide so to speak to philosophy? All I've read so far is Descartes' Meditations and the Republic

    • @mpcc2022
      @mpcc2022 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David O'Hara The Trial and Death of Socrates, Beyond Good and Evil, Utilitarianism, Ethics-Spinoza, Existentialism is a Humanism, A Critique of Pure Reason, Tractatus, The Emptiness Of Existence that's a diversified list that will give you a taste of varying modern philosophical schools.

    • @skeetorkiftwon
      @skeetorkiftwon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      David O'Hara
      I'm going to contrast the previous response, though I don't disagree that they are reasonable touchstones.
      I advise you to read:
      The book of five rings
      The Hagekura
      Marcus Aurelius meditations
      Books of Koans
      Gustave Le Bon's The Crowd
      Edward Bernays' Propaganda
      John Locke's Second Treatise on Government
      The federalist and anti federalist papers.

    • @spaceytracey1237
      @spaceytracey1237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/play/PLe10TYAZJ_uke3sfEwjSnOtR5T47A0b-H.html

    • @spaceytracey1237
      @spaceytracey1237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skeetorkiftwon great choices

    • @fac5457
      @fac5457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read presocratic philosophy by Katherine Osborne

  • @dkeristo852
    @dkeristo852 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love this mans voice!

    • @yonisgure7348
      @yonisgure7348 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dkeristo he sounds like a younger Mr Carson from Downton Abbey lol

  • @naimulhaq9626
    @naimulhaq9626 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The central theme of Hegel's Philosophy is DIALECTICS as the study of the relationship between opposites, not properly investigated, and with no models, is able to give insight into "evolution" and "self-organizing properties of matter", leading to an understanding of the "BEING".

    • @reidhb1
      @reidhb1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Dialectics are not a real part of hegels "systeme"

    • @naimulhaq9626
      @naimulhaq9626 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Reidh Beallagh
      What is, please explain.

    • @telicalbooks6485
      @telicalbooks6485 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Naimul Haq Which is why I am a moderate politically.

    • @reidhb1
      @reidhb1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      In The Phenomenology of the Geist, Dialectics is not the Theme, awareness of One's Self is.

    • @FringeWizard2
      @FringeWizard2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Telical Books when you say you are a moderate politically by what standard are you measuring yourself? A "moderate" is a very different thing in different times and places unless you've found and made use of some objective measure of "moderation" in politics in which case your objectively moderate position may happen to be very much at odds with others politics. Are you a "moderate before god/the absolute" or a moderate just by the standards of the nation you live in right now?

  • @-Gorbi-
    @-Gorbi- 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Life increasingly envelopes and transcends its previous stages as it becomes more self-reflexive. What the fuck is so controversial or obscure about that?

    • @mpcc2022
      @mpcc2022 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't know why people find Hegel difficult to comprehend.

    • @FringeWizard2
      @FringeWizard2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This. Only people who don't get Hegel are people who don't get and haven't studied the whole of philosophy I guess.

    • @skeetorkiftwon
      @skeetorkiftwon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fringe Wizard
      I honestly see no more concise or complete philosophy than the necessary and sufficient contrast between Kant's categorical imperative and Locke's second treatise on government. The ideological minimum for society, and the punctuated reality of survival of self and imposition of will.

    • @skeetorkiftwon
      @skeetorkiftwon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fringe Wizard
      Look I'm just going to be honest, I really don't even want to answer your questions until you edit that wall of fucking word salad.
      The very least you could manage is some line breaks after your double negatives and wholly unnecessary acronyms.
      How am I supposed to address a question as complex as, "Should our "leaders" have access to, and understanding of, the zeniths of human perception?" when you cannot even bring order to a single sentence?

    • @bihone4750
      @bihone4750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just know you've never read the phenomenology when you say such stupid shit with such confidence.

  • @jmgresham93
    @jmgresham93 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Hegel-by-hypertext good?

  • @adocentyn9028
    @adocentyn9028 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @1kevpap
    @1kevpap 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    hegel schmagel,coffee and bagels.

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      kevin butler Hegels does Kegels with Engels

  • @nashasooryaya1956
    @nashasooryaya1956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In Vedic terms, the REAL is that which has neither beginning, nor ending, and thus is
    Eternal, Non Local, Immutable, and is Not-A-Thing, and Attributeless.
    Veda calls that NiIRGUNA BRAHMAN (i.e. the Supreme Impersonal Being-Consciousness).
    This self same NIRGUNA BRAHMAN, gives rise to, and is also known by the Mystics as
    SAGUNA BRAHMAN (i.e. Brahman WITH Attributes), which in turn gives rise to
    Supreme Personal Almighty Gods (Krishsna, Narayana, Ishwara ....etc).
    Ishwara is said by the deep mystics to manifest from Himself (or Herself)
    the Supreme Deities: Shiva (The destroyer of attachment), Vishnu (the Grantor of the objects of attachment), Surya (Power and Brilliance), Ganesha (Supreme Intelligence),
    Devi (The Supreme Mother Divine) , aka Parvati , JagadAmbe', Shivani, Maheshwari, MahishAsura Mardini, ....etc.
    Now Creation, from the point of view of Veda and the great Deep Mystics of India is
    ILLUSION when compared with BRAHMAN - because creation is THINGS - Time-Space,
    Galaxies, Planets, Stars, .....etc ....etc. All "Things" of Creation have a beginning and an
    ending. Between their beginning and ending, they undergo innumerable changes.
    Thus they are called UNREAL when compared with BRAHMAN; or sometimes
    referred as "The Relative", and Brahman referred to as "The Absolute".
    I hope this little scribble whets you appetite to learn and know more about Veda.
    The best way is to start reading the books or treatises called Vedanta.

  • @honoriussoularians1887
    @honoriussoularians1887 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Dude, your karma just ran over my dogma..

  • @ristrellaconti1005
    @ristrellaconti1005 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Holderlin went mad from listening to Hegel.

  • @fretilius
    @fretilius 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *wew*

  • @naimulhaq9626
    @naimulhaq9626 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Consciousness, awareness, intelligence, intuition, free will, etc., are all the result of the self-organizing property of matter.

    • @newingvaeona8907
      @newingvaeona8907 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No.

    • @naimulhaq9626
      @naimulhaq9626 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *****
      Self organizing systems involves all forces acting in unison, better known as Leibniz's ;relational world', in which taken in isolation, space, time mass, force etc., means nothing, but taken together they convey a coherent theory.
      The 'universal spirit' representing 'universal consciousness', fine tuned creation and evolution of self organizing systems.
      At the big bang, dark matter and dark energy were created with opposite properties, followed by creation of particles and anti-particles, followed by creation of matter and anti-matter etc.
      Unity of Hegel's opposites, created elements, molecules, compounds, organic compounds, amino acids , genomes, cells, life and intelligence

    • @naimulhaq9626
      @naimulhaq9626 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +NOTXOA
      Godel's incomplete theorem stems from incorporating the falsity of the true statement 'I am not a liar', much like 'God created Devil', deprives God the benefit of omnipotence, a source of confusion that seems insurmountable.
      Hegel's laws of dialectics, especially his theory of , 'unity of opposites', attempts to solve this dilemma by introducing the concept of the , 'universal spirit' of 'unity of opposites' that is ubiquitous,like the opposite properties of dark matter and dark energy, particles and anti-particles, matter and anti-matter.... and on to hot and cold, male and female, up and down etc.
      Hegel had no idea of anti-gravity or anti-particle or negative energy, yet his theory laid the foundation of modern science (Dirac's prediction, or even Godel's incompleteness theorem), and provided the proof, however unintentionally, the existence and ubiquitous nature of the 'universal spirit', the source of all human knowledge.

    • @newingvaeona8907
      @newingvaeona8907 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Naimul Haq very good

    • @naimulhaq9626
      @naimulhaq9626 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JarlAthaulf
      Thank you very much, for your appreciation.

  • @Zar4thustr4
    @Zar4thustr4 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next, before all else, you’ll fix
    Your mind on Metaphysics!
    See that you’re profoundly trained
    In what never stirs in a human brain:
    You’ll learn a splendid word
    For what’s occurred or not occurred.
    But for the present take six months
    To get yourself in order: start at once.
    Five hours every day, lock
    Yourself in, with a ticking clock!
    Make sure you’re well prepared,
    Study each paragraph with care,
    So afterwards you’ll be certain
    Only what’s in the book, was written:
    Then be as diligent when you pen it,
    As if the Holy Ghost had said it!

  • @firstal3799
    @firstal3799 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This talk was about Plato, not Hegel

  • @JackVox
    @JackVox 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:35 Curiously when studying 19thC German idealists such as Friedrich Hölderlin and Nietzsche they fall into some form of madness in later life. When pondering on existential reality it does cause a peculiar cognitive dissonance, especially if all you can be sure of is that it is only 'thought' itself that your can be sure of.

    • @starlightengramA
      @starlightengramA 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps that happens because it may be true that reality as it appears to an individual consciousness is actually a simultaneous ingession to a divine mind.

    • @starlightengramA
      @starlightengramA 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is, an indistinguishable consciousness working through a Bose Einstein Condensation in the root of thoughts.

    • @starlightengramA
      @starlightengramA 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where we make the jump from the intuition to the concrete impression.

  • @weirdthing4119
    @weirdthing4119 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    my name is the same

  • @PCasanova95
    @PCasanova95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Father could be the thesis; Jesus, the antithesis; and the Holy Spirit the synthesis, according to Hegelian dialectic.

    • @boris3866
      @boris3866 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but Hegel never used those terms

  • @dreamstwice
    @dreamstwice 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with Hume... toss Hegel into the flames.

    • @truebomba
      @truebomba 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How dogmatic ;)

  • @ristrellaconti1005
    @ristrellaconti1005 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Inner freedom" here sounds like just being to believe whatever we want to, regardless of external or objective reality or evidence. How do we know that we have a soul? how do we know that such a thing exists? Only because we want to believe that we have one: that is enough for both Hegel and Plato. But that can be just self delusion without evidence or objective rationale.

    • @kadmonzohar2
      @kadmonzohar2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ristrella Conti ...could be you don't have a soul but you are a soul, as in the point of the inner universal essence of a thing with its force in a movement from moment to moment, becoming, and the soul is the play of what that essence is becoming into actuality. The expression of the truth of a thing. When a person has much delusion or corrupt data in the sense certainty, perception, understanding into consciousness process, then that misguides the ego and the master/slave doesn't synch. There are problems that come about by not seeing reality clearly, and Hindu, Buddhists and other schools of thought will tell us that everything is illusion, and we can see this is true because we all need to break things down in distinctions and put them together again to grasp reality, but to understand how appearance is a reflection, knowing clears things up to not fall for the illusion. The mirror may not be perfect but the reflection becomes clearer to the degree of understanding. The laws of the absolute may be considered heaven and the further an understanding strays from that and the problems that creates could be considered hell. I like the Kabbalistic ideas of Sitra Achra to explain this and how the universe does bring self correction or death. A persons problems may wake them up. Unfortunately some people remained fooled just enough that problems don't prove to bring out the truth of the delusions. In Kabbalah they say 'the World to Come' or 'World Without End' but this is the Absolute Universal that isn't time and space. Heaven isn't in the future but always in the present moment. So you just are a soul within the now, not have a soul that will go anywhere from you in your absoluteness of self.

    • @kadmonzohar2
      @kadmonzohar2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +kadmonzohar2 ...sorry...I forgot to add...these are just my own thoughts and I do not know anything, or what I do know may evolve to something different. Like J Krishnamurti says...don't take my word for it but just see it for yourself. Whataya think?

    • @-Gorbi-
      @-Gorbi- 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Ristrella Conti You're constructing a huge strawman. Objective rationality is what the entire philosophy of Hegel rests on. Logic to Hegel is already implicit in the world and structures our mind, not the other way around.

    • @ANPHKI
      @ANPHKI 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *facepalm*

    • @willalston9627
      @willalston9627 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you no sense of the Mystery, man?

  • @jamesnorseman4863
    @jamesnorseman4863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hegel: God and science ... Different experiences... The first one is metaphysics and the second one is evidence...simple as that ...basic instincts.

  • @wailinburnin
    @wailinburnin 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Marx embraces a dialectic (Hegel), perhaps we should look at its opposite. Rather than class struggle driving things, what if that is 180 degrees out? Consider "social cohesion" as the driver of history - the aberration of revolution, of turmoil - not simple social inertia. but the willingness to put up with incredible, prolonged injustice in the supposed cause of social cohesion.

    • @carolihrig718
      @carolihrig718 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      This Hegel Dialectic Pattern has and is again destroying my life. It is a german also. I consider him evil, for I have 28 year story/case to tell someone, just much evidence/documents all connected closely to this human predator name B.I. ..The details are in the devil's paperwork! He has claimed on this internet, "not to leave a papertrail. This is a Full Blown Serial Sociopath/Psychopath! He projects and full of many clusters...His size saves him, 6 foot 7 inch white man. German Hillbilly of Evil. This is his Pattern, NO DOUBT! HE IS THE DRAMA KING THAT PLANTS HIS HEGAL EFFECT ON MANY..PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THE IN BETWEEN OCCURRENCES CORRUPTIONS. I KNOW MY CASE WELL,

    • @jdstubbs9535
      @jdstubbs9535 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lounita Ihrig why is it destroying your life, I'm curious.

    • @jdstubbs9535
      @jdstubbs9535 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Were on 2 different wavelengths dude

    • @zerotwo7319
      @zerotwo7319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anything can be the driver of history, because you gave it focus

  • @petertancred3507
    @petertancred3507 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohhh pharck I hope we don't discover how to travel commercially at the speed of light I ouldn't be fucked losing my luggage beforehand.....

  • @reesemoneyvevo5668
    @reesemoneyvevo5668 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You really don't understand how a psychopath works at all. They're petty little people who're so scared of others they have no choice but to lash out violently. You've been duped by their pomp, thinking they're some sort of geniuses; but believe me, tricking strangers through generalizations and appeals to emotion is neither an admirable nor a difficult thing to do, nor a way to live a healthy life.

  • @andrewmueller9986
    @andrewmueller9986 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't decide of Hegel was stupid or smart.

  • @ristrellaconti1005
    @ristrellaconti1005 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "So much obscurity that it must be profound.." Reminds me of the way people sit at the feet of Derrida and Slavoj Zizek today.

    • @-Gorbi-
      @-Gorbi- 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Ristrella Conti Haha, yea. I can see Derrida but idk, Zizek isn't exactly a rubix cube.

    • @hachmejo
      @hachmejo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      just because you havent used the energy or time to understand it doesnt give you an excuse to denigrate it. your condescension is an indication of arrogant ignorance

    • @FringeWizard2
      @FringeWizard2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Not an argument"

  • @JSwift-jq3wn
    @JSwift-jq3wn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regardless how difficult, how overwhelming, how extraordinary Hegel's Philosophie May appear to none philosophers, his harangue is obvious to true thinkers, e.g. Schopenhauer. There are stupid questions: why is there something instead of nothing? Stupid and irrelevant question. It is the same as the question: why is Paris heavier than London? Or, why is Berlin faster than my grandmother.

  • @Xstine888
    @Xstine888 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    *REASON*. THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF NONTHINKING & BELIEF.

  • @coliv2
    @coliv2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perceive that philosophers like Hegel move from the reality of thinking to the reality of soul and the divine (in 17:40). That is, it is just a form of religion!

    • @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676
      @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Religion: A set of traditions, ceremonies and mythologies which posits a postemoeus promise that some essence of self
      Be it a siuld or a spirit will survive the death of the physical bieng.
      This is not religion.

  • @DENEVENTER
    @DENEVENTER 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interestingly, the actualization of the Platonic forms by Kepler to deduce the planetary 'ellipse zones' as such leads onto Newton's inverse squared law which is crux to Science, and the modern scientific philosophy from a scientific standpoint is that something that amazingly phenomenal is mere petty coincidence, and does not resound with any awe as it did with Plato, or Kepler, nor Newton, it's just some drivel the universe spewed out...somebody has definitely lost the plot in this equation.

    • @FuckALLauthorities
      @FuckALLauthorities 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Earth is Relatively FLAT and WATER IS FLAT AS FUCK, see Malcolm Bowden in my related playlist, or not 🖕😘

  • @hansvetter8653
    @hansvetter8653 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir Karl R. Popper said about him: "Hegel ist ein Schwätzer"!

  • @Booer
    @Booer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's be honest you didn't want to touch on him because of the Anglo centered philosophy you focus on dear host, tell me I'm wrong

  • @brindlilliahslilli5775
    @brindlilliahslilli5775 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blah Blah Blah. I envision a mangy dog , feverishly chasing it's own tail.

  • @FringeWizard2
    @FringeWizard2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just want to find audiobooks of his works instead of hearing some idiots rant about how controversial or "hard to understand" he is.

    • @gravytopic
      @gravytopic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fringe Wizard well who the fuck is stopping you

    • @FringeWizard2
      @FringeWizard2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have been trying to find said audiobooks but nobody seems to have uploaded any.

    • @nashasooryaya1956
      @nashasooryaya1956 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Listen to Audiobooks written by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel - Audible

    • @nashasooryaya1956
      @nashasooryaya1956 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i.e.: www.audible.com/author/Georg-Wilhelm-Friedrich-Hegel/B004LPT3VM

    • @nashasooryaya1956
      @nashasooryaya1956 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      For a comprehensive listing of Hegelian Philosophy Audio Books, click
      on:
      www.google.com/search?q=audio+books+od+Hegel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

  • @syourke3
    @syourke3 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The only mystery about Hegel is why anyone ever took him seriously at all.

    • @syourke3
      @syourke3 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course he was. Now, I have written you a prescription for some medications, you can have it filled at the local pharmacy. I want to you take them every day, twice a day, and we will meet here again in one week. Alright?

    • @reidhb1
      @reidhb1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      one good thing about Hegel is that the only people seriously trying to understand him ( except for Karl Marx ) have no problem with the concept of the Geist.

    • @syourke3
      @syourke3 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      And just what, exactly, is the "Geist" if not another word for God?

    • @JediMindG
      @JediMindG 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Entidad-Biológica I agree

    • @Xstine888
      @Xstine888 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Thesis-Antithesis=Synthesis*
      •Problem
      •Reaction
      •Solution
      *Hegelian Dialect*

  • @insearchofnemo
    @insearchofnemo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this guy speaks to a wider audience than at least speak proper an not mumble.

  • @petertancred3507
    @petertancred3507 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohhh pharck I hope we don't discover how to travel commercially at the speed of light I ouldn't be fucked losing my luggage beforehand.....