Quoting the Bible, a Louisiana principal punished a student for dancing inappropriately (Livestream)
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I'm not an American citizen but this principal needs to be fired immediately for his actions. He is harming children.
I am an American and I agree. Not to mention, none of this happened while she was in school activities.
Good luck this is one of the stories that got notice in the south there are hundreds of more cases like this that have went unchecked for and un notice due to the fact that these religious idiots claim that it’s called for.
Imagine how many lives have been ruined in the south due to no one being smart enough to care about the issue
I wish many more Americans thought like you!
He took off from his job I guess to run out his contract without penalty or repercussions
Principal should also be sued.
People like this principal are the reason I've gone from being just an atheist to a pretty heavy anti-theist. Until religion in general loses its power, people like this principal will continue to plague society and hold us back from actually being an empathetic, productive society.
I went from Catholic to Atheist because of "christians" like this.
People like him are the reason I joined The Satanic Temple.
Anti-theist is the default position for me.
Nope, I am a religious communist, and the message of Zarathustra will destroy your so-called "empathetic and productive" society, AKA imperialist and genocidal machine, and establish global communism, weather imperialist pigs like you like it or not!
🖖 same
A public servant at a public institution has absolutely NO authority to prostlize their religious beliefs to students.. EVER! Go to a church if you need to spout your beliefs.. good for mom.. go legal.
Also she was punished for what she did in private setting on her free time .
Exodus 15: 20, Then Miriam the prophet, Aaron’s sister, took a timbrel in her hand, and all the women followed her, with timbrels and dancing..
2 Samuel 6: 14 David was dancing before the Lord with all his might, 15 while he and all Israel were bringing up the ark of the Lord with shouts and trumpets.
Psalm 149: 3. Let them praise his name with dancing and make music to him with timbrel and harp.
Doesn’t matter what the Bible says, it should have NO bearing on school discipline
Statehouses are working to defund public education so they can funnel money to school "choice" options, let alone at the federal level if Republicans control everything.
Abrahamics (does not matter what version of jew, christian or muslim) HATE anyone else having the FREEDOM to choose who they want to be as a grown adult who does not harm anyone else. Those kind love to harm others, and then claim that they are forgiven everything they do, the instant they go to a temple, church, mosque, and hand over some money to pay their "fine". Abrahamics worship the Profits.
*proselytize
A public school administrator has no business bringing up religion with a student.
I'm so sick of people not minding their own business and being hellier than holy.
lincmerc wrote "...and being hellier than holy." Good one!
I've seen what too much "minding your own business" brings. A farmer who used the adoption process to "adopt a slave". A young girl impregnated by her father as her 16th birthday gift. There were red flags flying everywhere in both cases, but people were too far into the "mind your own business" to do anything about it.
But as for the "hellier than holy" bit - that we agree on 100%.
"hellier than holy"! I love it. I hope you don't mind if I adopt 'hellier' into my lexicon. Perfect for talking about "hypochristians"! I invite people to add 'hypochristian' to their vocabulary.
@@jdlech That doesn't make "mind your own business" a bad thing on principle, though. It just means that you shouldn't mind your own business when other people are in danger. Kaylee Timonet wasn't endangering anyone. She was dancing. So yeah, this is a situation where the principal should have minded his own business.
You and me both!
Sabotaging a child’s future by weaponising your position of power is disgraceful. I hope they do pursue legal avenues.
I agree with the victim, but stop mentioning Jesus. I do not recall any saying from Jesus about dancing. It might be some twisted interpretation of the Old Testament by the Principal. Jesus spoke only of love. Please, provide the text, or just say what exactly the Principal or the student said.
@@Gjaimes586 Matters not a jot which verse, chapter, psalm, etc.. He could have quoted the whole miserable book for all I care. The point is HE HAD NO RIGHT TO. None. The ONLY reason this is happening is BECAUSE of the teacher bringing jesus into it. He should have kept his religious beliefs to himself then NONE of this would have happened. So in a way you are right: "STOP MENTIONING jesus" Just stop. You've had 2000years to sort this shit out, yet here we are, having to clean up more crap caused by religion.
LoL Ezekiel 23 20.
LoL Ezekiel 23 20.
@@Gjaimes586
There are several beautiful references of the prophets and David dancing and playing instruments...remember? Also, Jesus did go to parties..probably danced. All Jewish men are great dancers!
I went to this high school. I graduated in 2014 but this principal has always been like this. Two girls were dating and he threatened to expel them both if they didn’t break up. He also called me into the office and implied that I was promiscuous and having sex for money because I went to school wearing a small lace choker in my senior year. He “cared” a lot about his students living their lives in sin but somehow had no idea that the girl’s soccer coach was having an inappropriate sexual relationship with one of my classmates. St. Pierre needed to be fired a decade ago.
You should have reported him then. He sounds like a real piece of shit.
Sounds like he;s a total jerk.
what is the high school and the town?
This goes to my initial comment, there is an established history for "St. Pierre" (the principal). Unfortunately, as Hemet pointed out, this principal knows how to game the system to avoid direct accounting of his presumptive behavior. Given this, if a diligent entity could get enough affidavits and witnesses together, they could sue the school board for his removal, if they refused to act outright.
Ah, ok, that helps to clarify. So, the principal is a homophobe, among other things, I'm sure.
Odd that he targeted her specifically. I think she made him feel something inappropriate so he punished her for his feelings.
i think so too
That’s the impression I’m getting two. Somebody should investigate his computer.
He felt himself "tempted" by her (🤢🤮) so "logically" he punished HER for it (😡🤬).
Hmmmm, that's an angle I didn't think about. Very interesting...I can see it though.
Most definitely the case.
The principal should pay the scholarship.
He only wrote the apology because he knows he’s going to be sued.
She should sue for emotional damage. She lost out on the scholarship opportunity and was stripped of her student government position for a time indeterminate. A lawsuit would deter future occurrences at the school.
She entirely lost out on the scholarship too, bcuz it was stripped on the day it was due
She should sue the school district and principle himself for emotional damage. On top of that, she should add onto the lawsuit that the principle be fired publically, and that the school district issue a statement that it was for violation of the separation of church and state.
If they fail to do that, then they should be removed from their positions. Then we will see if the school board cares more about the law and their students or their mythology.
It might deter it for a decade, but this shit is cylcical. It just keeps coming back.
And also for being singled out, for, as far as I can tell, the student actually dancing in that twerking manner wasn’t called in, or made an example of, just Haley. Which means the Principal was “trying to send a message” and was looking to be vindictive, and hence the delay until the scholarship deadline was passed, before he made his even vague “walk back” in words not actions. Similarly, if he “stepped away” so things can blow over, and he can get back to forcing such on children that attend that public school in just a semester or year, that is not him being held accountable for his actions.
"June 29, 2023
‘In God We Trust’ in Every Louisiana Classroom
A new Louisiana law that requires “In God We Trust” signs displayed in classrooms raises larger questions about religion and higher ed."
This stinks of purity culture. Was she being shamed for dancing immodestly? Because she’s a young woman?
Yes. Therefore property. A possession which must be controlled and “protected” for their own good.
Both
Yes. I agree. He is a grown man surrounded by what he might think is a flock of little girls to groom. Why was he watching the video in the first place? And if it was someone else that showed him the video, where is that person, and why are they not being publicly brought forward?
@feliciabarrett9316
Agreed. Creepy. Theres more than one stinker involved in this.
The worst part that people seem to be missing is that according to what was said in the beginning, SHE was not the one twerking. One of her friends was and she was just dancing behind the friend in the video.
These public school administrators know perfectly well what the law is with regard to separation of church and state. I would not feel any disappointment if this Principal were to lose his job.
I go even further, I will feel WERY disappointed, if that principal will not get fired or even allowed to appy any job remotely connected with childrens.
There should be no way on earth he should ever be in a position of authority over children. He has exactly zero aptitude for the role! Let him learn about real life the HARD WAY!
It's Louisiana. He won't lose his job. I'm a Texan and my state is just as bad about respecting the Constitution and/or education. The only real difference is that Louisiana law is Catholic while Texas law is Baptist.
Hey... Everyone in the comments...
Run for your local school board. Replace the Trumpanzee church-lady Ku Klux Karens who are trying to force your kids to pray in school and allow virginity checks by administrators...
No, not school nurses...
Administrators.
And no you can't virginity test a boy.
If you can't do it talk someone you know and trust into running. It's that or let them keep harming kids with toxic beliefs and behaviors.
Please.
Because people like him don't have the ability to distinguish between imaginary things and real things, he thinks his god delusion is a "higher authority" that has his back.
"My mom and other parents were there."
This should have been the end of the conversation.
Not understanding the assistant telling her she needs to be
around better people or get better friends when this is the case.
How much you wanna bet the principal would have done some shit like "Well, i can make this all go away if you do me a few favors". There doesnt seem like any reason to hold so much leverage against someone for a simple religious disagreement. No way he wasnt going to blackmail her or some shit. Someone needs to investigate this weirdo because this cant be the first time this has happened
heres the truth of the matter...i was a state employee for 30 yrs...if you get FIRED you lose your retirement benefits..he's RESIGNING in the hope that he gets to keep his retirement. plain and simple his lip service apology and backpedaling are attempts on his part to NOT take responsibility or suffer any consequences for his actions
Exactly, hypocrisy and not being responsible is hallmarks of conservative fundamentalist
Was going to ask this. Now, an argument could be made that he shouldn't lose everything over one incident. However, he had no problem crashing this young woman's future over one incident.
It’s a poor argument as it doesn’t factor in severity.
And the school board may have pushed him to do it. I work in government, and I’ve seen a number of occasions when an employee was given the opportunity to resign rather than be fired. It all gets kept quiet.
Can they do that? What a strange thing…
I live in the Netherlands and this is not possible over here. Your pension is yours, you worked for it. It would be same as a boss who fires you and also wants the salary back he paid you.
(Maybe be possible if someone applied for a job under false pretenses like to obtain corporate secrets, but otherwise?)
And the fact that they weren't even on SCHOOL PROPERTY, outside of school hours, at a NON-SCHOOL sponsored function... The school administrators have no authority and should totally abstain from revoking any school merits or priveleges over something that was NOT illegal, that didn't happen on school grounds. Nor was it a school sponsored event. The dance was over, they left the school, that is the END of school administrator's power and responsibility. How do some people think this is okay? Insanity!
Sounds like the Harper Valley PTA, doesn't it.
He put his own personal beliefs first and punished the girl in the worst possible way, abusing his academic authority in a spiteful and bullying manner. He should not be allowed to resign but be officially sacked instead. Should the family resort to legal action? Hell yes!
Maybe he needs to check into a guidance counsellor because of his lustful feelings towards a child
This is literally why an assembly with the entire school should be created with a formal apology by the principal/school district AND an explanation of why the principal violated her rights.
So he's only apologizing when he's publicly called out. This is why it's important to not be silent when anyone uses their religion to pressure others. Speak up and make them accountable.
"I'm taking a leave of absence..." sounds suspiciously like "The school board is making me run and hide until this all blows over so they're not named in any lawsuits..." to me.
Bingo!
I wasn't at all surprised until the moment you revealed it was a public school... just a slam dunk of a lawsuit.
You'd think, but with the corrupt scrotus judges, its not a guarantee it would stand. Afterall, they sided with a coach leading prayer ON A FOOTBALL FIELD AT A GAME.
At least in the late 50's to early 70's the ban applied to all public and nondenominational private schools in the US.
So weird. Religion seems to destroy everything that's good and decent
Bullshit.
That's it purpose, to destroy joy to control people.
@@nedludd7622 Any evidence for this? We, the most joyous religion, the Khurramiya, teach that you can enjoy all of the dilights the world has, so one as it does not harm others.
@@TheMilitantMazdakite This clip and other thousand clips on TH-cam. Read the bible to see it for yourself.
Facts. Religion is cancer.
Reported in The Advocate on Oct 23, 2023, Principal Jason St. Pierre took accumulated sick leave until June 30th. That's a whole lot of sick leave, somewhere around 36 weeks! Kind of hard to believe that's accurate. Feels more like the school district is giving a paid vacation to get him and them out of potential legal hot water.
Kaylee's family HAS TO SUE this principal. He and others like him need to be taught that this behavior is not OK. Plus whether she would get the scholarship or not the principal has ruined her chances of possibly getting the scholarship. He should lose his job AND suffer be forced to pay Kaylee for damages to her scholastic opportunities and emotional and mental anguish.
SUE THE BASTARD!!!
That Principal has since resigned and "tried" to rescind the strippin; but he cudnt! He stripped her of her scholarship on the day it was due; his religious tirade TOOK AWAY HER SCHOLARSHIP PERMANENTLY
He needs to pay the student, in cash, what he stole from her plus damages for distress!
He should be forced to pay the same amount of money that that scholarship would’ve saved that young lady he needs to pay that into her education fund
I bet if the scholarship committee hears about this she will be awarded the scholarship. He should be stripped of his credentials and never allowed near a public school again. If he had one of those bracelets he most likely had many more and had been passing them
out to other students. And why was he watching these kids dance to begin with? This smacks of Bill Gothard. Men like this are just plain creepy.
@@cathykrueger4899 While that cud happen... It may be just unlikely to happen bcuz her not gettin the scholarship meant someone else got the allocated funds there
Dependin on the org runnin things, it may just be unbudgetable there to add an extra scholarship in; and it wud be extremely wrong to take someone elses promised scholarship just bcuz they werent supposed to be promised it
Then the stupid principal should give her money in the amount of what the scholarship was for - plus damages to her reputation etc. This makes me so angry! She didn't fail... but the principal made her feel like she did.
No Hemant, she may have a strong legal case. She was financially hurt by an unlawful act. And personally, he missed that deadlune on purpise. I know how these people are. I grew up around chistians and they are vindictive, vengeful, and I wish I could say it's only been a few, but no. I've encounter way too many to the point I don't befriend Chritians.
You notice how with those kinds of christians always proclaim that their god thinks exactly like them and wants the exact same things they want? Christians are always telling us we worship ourselves, but I get the vibe that it's heavy, *heavy* projection.
Same, i view all Christians who speak openly about their religion as hostile- cant be helped.
I agree. You can’t rob a house then in a week bring all the stuff back you stole, say “sorry your stuff was taken, it was a misunderstanding”, now you cant sue me cause no damage done. The law was still broken.
Those merit based scholarships usually only cover tuition, books, fees and sometimes on-campus housing. However, I get a strong feeling that the school district will be forced to pat for her full ride, plus a vehicle and a bunch of pocket change.
Only?
When I was a kid, the Supreme Court passed the law that we couldn't even pray in any school setting. So it is very much against the law. To bring up the Bible in school is very much against the law.
Not only that, that ruling actually also outlawed ‘silent contemplation’ time due to its ASSOCIATION with religious beliefs that should not be supported by the state…
I would be incredibly surprised if a lawsuit doesn't come from this.. this is a perfect example of seperation of church and state. That line was crossed and now come the consequences.
I'm sure the lawyers are lining up as we speak.
I’m a Christian and a USAF Veteran. I agree that public education and religion should NOT be mixed. I would object if they allowed Islam to be promoted in the school I’m also a Protestant so I would object if Catholic principles were being taught. Keep public education and religion separate PLEASE! I attended a Church Grade School and one year of College at a Christian College, but in Public Schools keep religion OUT! He needs to be held accountable and should have to repay her for all she lost because of his actions.
Funny enough, that's exactly why we've always tried to keep it neutral. Couple that with the fact that the parents would be paying taxes to pay for another religion being taught to their kids, can't imagine they'd be huge fans of that.
I'm not a Christian anymore, but much respect to you, friend.
I was a USAF chaplain and I totally agree. Some of the other chaplains didn’t even know that a chaplain is UNARMED AT ALL TIMES according to international rules of engagement. They thought that I, as a woman, wasn’t qualified but they weren’t qualified as stupid. Just nuts. I was there to minister to the folks that conservative Christian chaplains would not help.
Thanks for your service!
There is no freedom of religion when others are trying to impose their religion on others.
The question is: why does behavior outside of school, outside of illegal conduct, matter for purposes of school discipline? Where does this principal get off penalizing people for a party outside of school?
i think that‘s a US thing. happens in the workplace too (especially when one posts something deemed incompatible with the reputation of the company). guess that happens in countries with bad labour laws and when companies are afraid of shitstorms on social media. in the civilized world, threats along the line of „we will inform you employer“ are pretty meaningless and like a ll bad weather, a shitstorm passes too
Because "freedom" was just propaganda. America loves to control its people.
I have a class A commercial driver's license. If I get a DUI while driving my personal vehicle it will also affect my commercial drivers license even if I wasn't in one while recieveing a DUI.
Heck I don't even drink so this doesn't really apply to me but some truckers get a rude awakening when they lose their trucking job because of bad driving behaviors in their personal vehicle.
@@aqua6613 agreed, however there is a difference between doing something objective illegal (DUI) and having an (unfavorable) opinion on a subject.
That has more to do with public safety in a truckers life than it has in most other jobs. Pilots for example can get roaring drunk in their off time as long as they do not drink so many hours (24 maybe) before flying a commercial aircraft. Not a good look anyway but American rules are often very debateable and too much power given to greedy corporations and powerful rich people.
The lawsuit should be against the school board. Did they know that the principal was pushing his religious belief on the students? If they did and took no action then there would be a case against the board.
he's been there 30 years. i do not doubt they knew. if they didn't , they shouldn't be on the board..
If this was a fundamentalist school, could see this happening, well hell we weren’t even allowed dances or anything they deemed “ worldly “ but a public school where nothing nasty or hateful was happening was a complete intrusion on her civil rights
Like playing the chicken dance at the grad dance....
I am a Canadian Baptist who attended a small, one room rural elementary school in the 1950s and early 1960s. All of the families knew each other and we were all Christians. We sang hymns in music class and memorized Bible verses, we celebrated Easter and Christmas, and had an annual Christmas concert. I loved it and wasn’t conscious that it would be a problem for anyone. As a young adult, my husband and I had friends from other non-Christian religions and some who were agnostics or atheists. As well, we had learnt about the legal separation of church and state. As a result, we came to realize that religion in schools was wrong. My husband and I had loved our school traditions but we knew it was wrong because a public school should be public, not denominational. Later, I was studying history which included religious history, at a former Baptist university. Divinity College was still on the campus and its retired dean was our minister and several of its professors were in our congregation. They told me about Canada’s fight to resist a state religion and to preserve the separation of church and state, and how the Baptists in Canada fought to keep them separate. Our minister even said that it wasn’t the school’s place to teach religion, that if parents wanted their children to learn about religion, they should take them to Sunday school and church and should teach it in their own homes.
My husband and I stopped attending church when we lived in the USA and didn’t return after we moved back to Canada because the Baptists have become too conservative and judgmental about social behaviours. Everyone has the right to freedom of conscience, rights over one’s own body, right to love whichever sex they choose, right to self-identify with any gender, and so on. Religion can bring individual emotional support but it is too often used for evil purposes, especially when it condemns those who don’t believe or behave as a particular religion thinks that they should. We still consider ourselves to be Christians but my husband and I believe a theocracy is truly evil and contrary to what Christ taught.
So well written. Totally agree. In the 50s and a public school my teacher read bible stories when we came in from lunch. She ONLY read a children’s book of bible stories. We kids loved it. We, like you, were somewhat insulated. Thank you for your comment.
@@karenwaddell9396❤love people like you two wish I could reply to @macgrad1. But my iPhone will let me only reply to you. I hope she can read this. You two are what I call TRUE CHRISTIANS. I agree to disagree with others and most of all LOVE ONE ANOTHER 🥰
(It shows me as Gary Williams but I’m actually his wife Lynda Williams)😇
@macgrad1
You are a TRUE CHRISTIAN. I agree to disagree with others but LOVE ONE ANOTHER. I love your comment (I’m not Gary Williams I am his wife Lynda Williams)
@@garywilliams4214 , thank you Lynda. I’m not that good a person but I do try not to hurt others. My grandmother was a nominal Christian who never went to church. She swore a lot, loved her beer on a Friday or Saturday night, and chain smoked cigarettes. She had a hard life, but she hated prejudice and always stressed treating others as equals, with kindness, and without any discrimination. She always said that no race was better than another because we were all humans. I still miss her.
They shouldn't sue the school, they should sue the man directly. If they sue the school, the local taxpayers pay for his crime and he gets off essentially scot free. If you sue him directly and make him pay for his crime, perhaps it will discourage others from taking such disgusting actions on innocent students.
I disagree. I think they should sue the school board who can then sue him for the resultant damages and legal costs for Kaylle and the board. That should nicely break the man!
They have let him act this way for years
Sue both.
You sue them jointly so the school has a reason to fire them both economically and either way she get paid!
Q: Why are Baptists prohibited from having sex standing up?
A: Because it looks too much like dancing.
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
It might lead to dancing.
LOL.
There’s definitely room for a civil lawsuit here, at least. Kaylee was denied an endorsement she was otherwise guaranteed, until the principal pulled the rug from under her for something so trivial and arbitrary, all while insulting her. She could easily sue for damages, both to her reputation and to her peace of mind. Easy open-and-shut civil case. She’s gonna get a good chunk of change out of this bs the principal foisted on her.
Possibly, but if she does, it will likely come from the school district, not the principal. That's not really fair to other students in the district, which is already one of the most under-funded districts in the nation. I mean, it's Louisiana!
@@craigcorson3036She deserves the money that he stopped her getting! The school district needs to make sure she gets it and has a serious talk to the principal (or preferably fire him). If they do not, they deserve to be sued. The principal is also a liar. How about they get the money out of him?
@@craigcorson3036 They need to learn not to hire people who risk their funding like this. Failing to punish the infraction is the same as supporting it in this case, as it is precisely what the supporters would advocate.
@@annwilliams6438 First, he has already resigned, which you would know had you watched the entire video. Second, do you really think that a former high school principal in LOUISIANA is going to have deep enough pockets to fund the young lady's education? If she sues (and I don't for a moment dispute her absolute right to do so), it will further impoverish an already-impoverished school district, and innocent kids will suffer.
@@craigcorson3036
"he has already resigned, which you would know had you watched the entire video"
See -> 15:24
When I was in High School - late 60's. A friend was walking his girl friend to her classrooms, his room was further down the hall, when the bell rang. The Principal, a very religious man, said " You are late and should plan on getting here on time. And you should be dating someone of your own race." The Principle woke up on the floor. Hector got kick out.
His “apology” is only to get himself out of trouble. I hope she wins enough to pay her way through college.
It was a "Please dont sue the school" apology. I would sue them.
I'd sue HIM.
@@caitthecat I'd sue both, he is crossing the boundary between church and state because they continue to allow him to do so.
This isn't the first complaint against him regarding his complete disregard for the separation of church and state.
@@RPruett78 Indeed... no doubt many would sign on to testify at the lawsuit.
I just saw a news clip; How Kaylee danced at that party is similar to the dance routines performed at a school prep rally. If _Kaylee_ was lewd and vulgar, so were the students at that _school-sanctioned_ rally. Yet the principle didn't have a talk with them about _their_ eternal salvation!
Her mom said literally the same; and said that the principal shud be punishin the whole dance team and not just her kid on it; which was clearly done bcuz as she put it, the school sees her daughter as the schools "hood-oranment" and thus are bein negatively prejudicial in their treatment of her solely based on her bein a star student...
The American Taliban does not permit a woman the right to decide her own life (including whether she dances or not).
Definitely need to get a close look at his personal computer hard drives
This family needs to file a civil suit against the Principal, Assistant Principal, and the School District. My understanding is that because of the Principal's action, the scholarship deadline passed so she lost that opportunity.
"Dancing will ruin your life, and I will prove it to you by ruining your life if I see you dancing."
-- Principal
Principal thought it was sexual, which is a major self-report.
"Dancing in a way Jesus would disapprove of"??? I'm not aware of any passage in any of the four Gospels that alleges Jesus disapproved of any particular kind of dancing.
I seem to recall a song, "The Lord.of the Dance" - used to be quite popular in English speaking countries.
Has the line "I am the Lord of the dance, said he." The 'he' being Jesus.
She should have told these nutty principal she was merely 'spreading the word' through dance, lol.
Remember when the party ran out of wine and he made some more out of water? Sounds like he was a party animal!!
@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar I like that song too. Basically it's modern lyrics to the melody of a much older Shaker hymn titled "Simple Gifts."
Edit: Near as I recall, Aaron Copeland used the melody as one of the themes in his orchestral composition Appalachian Spring.
Hell, he’s never been to a black church, evidently.
@@dontaylor7315 Love Appalachian Spring, I didn't know it was if Shaker origin though - thanks for being my 'learnt something new today." 🙂🙂🙂
Kaylee is more obedient to Jesus than the principal by keeping religion non-public. The principal should be ashamed when he plans to meet Jesus after his death, according to the religion's myth.
People like him gonna meet someone..ain't gonna be Zombie Jebus tho..
Do you mean RoboCop?
@@kennycube5126 RoboChrist?
@@mta4562 Zombie Cop?
I'd keep jesus away from my daughter. She does not need to be told to cover her hair, be silent in church, not have authority over men, not to teach and to be subservient to her husband. Luckily I have a son who knows what gods are: "imaginary creatures"
And then Kevin Bacon showed up and read all the Biblical passages celebrating dancing. And everyone lived happily ever after.
but then Jesus showed up and read all the Biblical passages telling girls to cover their hair, be silent in church, not to have authority over men, not to teach, and to be subservient to their husbands (he even threw in a bonus verse for slaves). And the American Taliban was happy.
@@cocobunitacobuni8738 Well, yeah. But they can dance!
Thank you for this comment. Do churchies even read the whole book or just cherry pick single lines?
The principal violated her civil rights and as such he has lost his qualified immunity. Sue him in his personal capacity and let him pay for her college education.
Freedom of religion includes freedom FROM religion.
Absolutely.
Typical southern school. The same thing happened to my brother in 1988 at a school in Arkansas. Got kicked out of school because of how he danced at prom.
I would bet my bottom dollar that if this was done by a bunch of boys these school officials (undeserved titles) would have had no problem.
"Boys being boys."
Boys have to be naked or nearly so to dance "inapproprately".
Well, since that would be more homoerotic in his eyes I think he'd be absolutely livid.
The principal couldn't guarantee her the scholarship. BUT he did GUARANTEE she would NOT get the scholarship.
Sexual frustration materializes in many unseemly ways, most notable in lack of judgment. A student sexually frustrated the principal, to the point that he lost judgment.
If he'd pulled that shit with my kid... he'd be getting more than an earful from me. Hands off our kids freak!
Conservatives never ever apologize! 🤦🏽♂️
Nope they just pretend to apologize to cover their ass.
They're not very liberal with the apologies.
@@Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq 😂 right! Or anything for that matter.
He needs to be sued into the Stone Age, and so does the school district. He should be further barred from working anywhere in public schools. Lastly, CHECK HIS HARD DRIVE!!!! He’s a creeper, and seems strangely attracted to her, and is chastising her for turning him on (cuz, after all, it’s her fault according to his dogma).
Oh, and he referred to her as the school’s “hood ornament”; very, very telling!
Insecurity does cause actions like this. Just look at all the closeted homophobes.
I agree fully
The best question for the Principal "Was that an apology?" There was no remorse within it. It was more of a PR move to not be fired.
Its also worthless, his feelin remorse now **cannot undo the dmg** of strippin of her of her scholarship. The due date for it has passed and she wasnt allowed to finalise things for that bcuz of this principals inappropriate behaviour
yup he had been voluntold to do that and his "leave of absence" as well. i wonder what else he has been foisting on the female students.
@@DAYBROK3 Excatly!
Resign, keep his retirement.
Get fired, lose his retirement.
One step they could take for a lawsuit is to contact the scholarship board and see if they would testify to the likelihood of her obtaining the scholarship. This feels similar to defamation cases where actors lost roles because of lies released to smear them. If she had a "very strong chance" at being awarded the scholarship, she might be able to make the School Board pay for a near or equivalent amount in compensatory damages. And yes School Board, because the actions the Principal took are actions that involve his offical capacity.
I cannot believe this PUBLIC school principal has the nerve to "preach" at school!
I saw this behavior from my small, Christian high school in the 1980's. Dancing was considered a sin, but nobody had a camera on them 24/7, either.
I am not sure, but there is nothing worse than a religious Bully. He essentially stole her scholarship. He should be sued - Big Time.
I went to private school and this is an overreach even there. It didn’t happen on school property.
It's a PUBLIC school
@@karldehaut I know. It’s crazy!
My daughter's Catholic high school wouldn't have done this. Then again, they teach actual science (even evolution).
I am a Christian. This is ridiculous. I hope they sue. Wouldn't it be ironic if the principal responsible for her loss of scholarship has to pay for her entire college education. Also him resigning is his way of trying to keep his retirement, if you're a stat employee and you're fired you lose everything. But if you resign before then, they can't withhold it.
take the principal to court and sue his ass off for mental anguish and discrimination..at the VERY LEAST the board should fire him.!!
It IS mental abuse to cause someone to feel like a failure ... even if they have done something wrong, which is not this case! He purposely singled her out without supports to mentally harass her about something that had nothing to do with school business. They should sue him for mental health damages. And the school board should consider his no longer being allowed active in the school system.
Neither mother or daughter need apologize for anything. This had absolutely nothing to do with the school. The admin of this school should be handed their permanent walking papers and the mother should file a civil action. There certainly is a case to be made and I’m very sure more than one lawyer has contacted the family.
Principal needs to be de-programmed.
USA needs to be reprogrammed
This is rabid these people are. This wasn't at school. But my question is why this guy is looking at videos of girls in his building.
I would like to know if he punished her because she made him "stumble"...
It's Louisiana, what more need be said? 🙄
This principle needs to get fired and thusly sued for everything
Yep! Sued right into living under a bridge and wearing a barrel! Surely god will help him survive!
So the principal spends time searching for "teen girls dancing" on TH-cam, sounds about right.
Check his hard drive….
I bet the principal thought because she was dancing behind a girl twerking, randomly thought it was a public display of lesbianism, something he has a religious hate of! ( prehaps he was turned on and hated himself for this and was looking for a scapegoat , typical blame the victim. Grrrr )
It wouldn’t be the first time he’s discriminated against lesbians. I went to this school, and my junior year this girl in my psychology was sobbing because St. Pierre had pulled her I. The office and threatened to expel her if she didn’t break up with a girl she was openly dating. It was absolutely disgusting and I’m glad he’s finally being scrutinized for his abhorrent treatment of students based on his religious beliefs.
They just wanted to punish a successful young woman for also being able to have fun. F that principal and sue his ass. Kids were GRINDING on each other when i was in 8th grade!!!! A scholarship revoked for twerking is absolutely idiotic.
Fundamentalists think all they have to do is say “sorry” or stay home a few days without any real change in attitude. No! That principal violated her civil rights, publicly humiliated her, and cost her loss of a scholarship. That's a lawsuit BECAUSE He will do it again if he doesn’t make comparable amends to her. It is unethical for him to not compensate *her.* An insincere apology isn’t compensation.
The old fart principal had the hots for the kid, and weirded out about it.
This a billion.
He had more than "the hots." He had Hot Irons in wait.
What kids do when they are not at school is none of the principals or the schools business the principal and vice principal needs to be fired and never allowed near kids again
There are some exceptions to that, bullying can be easily carried into school, and the girls who made racist remarks.
But modesty remarks are absurd.
@@lizcollinson2692 the comment was to meaning in private life such as this girl the school and principal has no say in how a student dances at a party that has nothing to do with the school the school has no say if a student played football with boys or girls or if they are christian or not as long as the school is not involved they have no say but stupid me I assumed people were smart enough to figure that out without spelling it out
To all concerned, here's what an apology entails. 1) Admission of wrongdoing. 2) Addressing the wrongdoing, IE, taking corrective actions to redress said wrongdoing. 3) Seeking forgiveness only after parts 1 and 2 have been accomplished. Apologies are not conditional, IE, "I'm sorry IF someone was offended." They are not made under duress. A genuine apology comes from an understanding of fault and the desire to fix the situation one created.
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I’m sure that she was emotionally hurt when she had to hear what the principal said to her, horrible. We need better teachers & principals in our schools. We need to pay better wages & give our children better people, who know better.
OMG, this is a public school. How ridiculous these principles are way out of line. They need to lose their jobs. Kids are dancing and just having fun. If i was her mom i would get a lawyer.
Monetary damages for the emotional trauma will help a lot with college expenses.
There shud also be specific dmgs for the actual, unfixable, loss of the scholarship. And the principal shud pay
I was building a metal building to be a gymnasium and offices for a Baptist church. I was talking to an older gentleman who helped the church, and I commented on how the gymnasium would make a great dance floor. He said “oh no, Baptists don’t dance.” I told him it wasn’t that hard, you just put on some good tunes and get out there and shake it. It turns out that good Baptists don’t do anything that is fun.
was raised baptist and I can confirm
I will say, as an aside, I have heard a lot of stories recently about misbehaving principles or the opposite in principles defending students or policies against crazy parents. Nearly ALL of them (principals) were MEN!! In a career in education, that is made up of something like 90% women, a disproportionate number of principals or assistant principals are still MEN!! It really pisses me off!!
When I was in school, we had a lot of turn over for the position of Principal, and Administrator. The two best were my Government teacher. Her as principal struck fear in to the hearts of even the most cavalier of students. The best Administrator was a DR, soft spoken, and genuinely curious about literally everything. She's actually the sole reason I even graduated, and her name sits in a place of honor in my family's house, with only one other educator.
Makes me wonder how boys at that school who act inappropriately are treated. Find many schools are more forgiving of that, especially if the boys in question play football. (Not saying standing by someone who is twerking is inappropriate).
Same!
They should sue the school system and him PERSONALLY for four times what her planned education would cost.
I think the scary part of this story is that this was a PUBLIC school,yikes!
Like, the first place i heard about this story was from a youtuber who is also a lawyer; and they were makin it abundantly clear that this is def sue worthy, esp once they found out there was no way to rescind the loss of the scholarship
I'm feeling a little uncomfortable with the emphasis placed on the success level of the student. I feel for the kids who are at an even greater power disadvantage. How many F students were disregarded when reporting their experiences with this person? It's not ok to do this to anyone, even if they are not the life of the party and/ are not good at school/work.
The level of the student's grades and participation is part of the story here though. While, yes, an F student could and probably has faced this religious abuse, an F student wouldn't have the additional issue of financial loss from the scholarship being missed.
@@abrahamroloff8671 so the F student has less value because...money?
@@yippieskippy2971 For a legally case the average student grades and above average grades will be some issue
@@yippieskippy2971The F student can file abuse, but not damages as easily, because they will not have a provable financial loss like a scholarship. Now if he was the reason they were getting the F, that would be evaluated, too.
The principal should have read the one that says "But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
Sue this principal into poverty, where they belong!
FFRF would probably take the lawsuit on for this girl and her family.
Dude this is everyday for school employees in the Bible Belt. You can't attend a staff meeting without being ordered to join hands and praise Jesus, or go to an assembly without a singing of hymns.
Which directly contradicts Jesus's instructions on how to pray. Christketeers are the only ones responsible for their cult's decline.
The "Ark People." By Stephen King.
I went to Newton Senior Highschool and during my health class the teacher brought in a pastor to talk about sex.
When the the teacher started talking about male anatomy they suggested that "Someone was really smart about the design of male testicles".
"Someone" already assuming that a thinking being was involved 🤦
"Someone" was also pretty stupid. Male Testicles are extremely vulnerable and a liability most of the time.
Yeah, real smart. Hanging out there in the open, vulnerable to painful injury, rather than safely concealed inside as in many other animals!
@@EmissaryOfStuff I hear Bears🐻 Have better anatomy.
Bringing in a pastor to do the teacher's job, wow. Just begs the question, what is the teacher being paid for? Are they unqualified for the job?
@@EmissaryOfStuff .
And having to stay moderately cool for maximum fertility.
This principle has to be sued !because he is now not signing off on her getting the scholarship! That's monetary punishment!
If he caused Kayleigh to miss out on the scholarship, that is a cause of action for the parents to file suit for financial loss. They will have to pay instead of her getting the scholarship.
An afterthought: I can't help wondering how many young women this principal called into his office before this, for similar reasons, and given them similar sermons.
People who want to control others notoriously can't control themselves. So the question is, what is this principal's vice? Because they always have some dirty little secret. Controlling people can't control themselves
His computer needs checking for sure.
The loss of that scholarship(if she can show that the principle is directly responsible for that loss, which she can) is material damage and she's entitled to compensatory and punitive reparation in almost every state.
By missing the deadline for the required document, she was, in efffect, discriminated against and unlawfully prevented from applying for the scholarship.
At least that's what I think...
Someone needs to investigate if there may be someone he is connected to that received or is applying for the same scholarship.
A PUBLIC SCHOOL??!!?? What the heck??!!?? I thought immediately it was a private Christian school, but public school??? The principle needs to be disciplined. His private religious beliefs are destroying someone’s life. He needs to be reigned in.
The lawsuit should be easily won. Defaming a bright child could damage her lifelong prospects.
This is what happens when you dumb down your population. They called the dancing inappropriate, but their punishment was CERTAINLY inappropriate. And they should be sanctioned or fired. Sueing over this could be a terrible loss for the local school system. If the principal resigned, it might be enough. But she is a big girl and should be allowed to make up her own mind what to do next. I don't think the school system paying her tuition would be overly burdening to their budget. Not as much as a lawsuit anyway.
This isn't about a lack of education. it's about a culture that blaims the girl for a man's sexual desires. Even desires for children.
Yeah, the principal resigning doesn't get the student her scholarship back. There are material damages here that have yet to be repaid. I hope they sue, not just for their own sake but to set a precedent so that the school administration takes steps to make sure these shenanigans don't happen ever again.
Kinder Kuche kirche! Women don’t need an education and shouldn’t be allowed to read or vote. Gilead here we come
Im sure the principle had numerous complaints and because of that the district should supper the cost of the lawsuit.
In the OT, Old Smitey was always doling out over the top inappropriate punishments. Every damned day!
She suffered emotional damage as a result of the principal’s actions, therefore a case probably can be made.