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You are naturally gifted to teach and explain very very well... this is a skill that isn't inherently present with many people but you seem to have loads of it... this video was so much to learn because of ur amazing skill to explain so nicely and clearly....
Dmitriy, thanks for tackling this topic first of all!! Though, I'm not 100% sure that you were right concerning shareReplay(), which according to you produces "HOT" observable. The thing is, as you said right in the very beginning: "Cold obs. starts producing after subscribe called, and hot emits always" . Talking about shareReplay: 1. Yes, it makes the source sharable sharable (so the logic executed one time only) 2. Yes, it keeps and replay last value (due to replay part of it) 3. Thought, it doesn't emit values before after the first subscribe() is invoked. Imho, shareReplay in a nutshell is a "cold + multicasting", not hot + multicasting. A proper example of hot observable is Subject (and all its flavours of course), since we can next values into it from the very beginning, and subscribers will miss them if they subscribe late, but also will share the same values which it produces. Talking about an example of an operator for transforming cold into hot observable I would say that it is publish-ish ones. E.g. publishReplay(), returning a connectable Observable, would let you call connect() on it, before it has any subscribers, activating the logic beforehand (so called hot composition). All of this brings me to the conclusion: 1. There are three type of observables: a) cold unicasting (e.g. http.get), b) cold multicasting (e.g. transformed with shareReplay), hot multicasting (e.g. Subject). 2. There is no possibility to create hot unicasting, due to the fact that subscribers of the same data source will always share the same values being emitted by it. P.s. I would really appreciate to hear your valuable feedback, since my mind is gonna blow if I doesn't settle with the final understanding of this topic =)
Hi Arthur, Thanks for your comment. By telling "Cold obs. starts producing after subscribe called" I mean that value producer (data source) is being created by calling subscribe() (which ultimately invokes (observer) => {...} callback). In case of hot observables, the data source is being created even before we invoke (observer) => {...} callback. Here is the classical example of making cold observable hot (with replaySubject the logic is similar): ``` function makeHot(cold) { const subject = new Subject(); cold.subscribe(subject); return new Observable((observer) => subject.subscribe(observer)); } ``` And this is how I see this: Subject, in this case, acts as DataSource (Producer) which is created outside of the resulting observable which we are returning, and if the source(producer) is created outside of Observable - it makes it hot. So, my understanding of Hot / Cold obs is boiling down to the Value Producer and where it was created. It is how I interpret it BUT of course, I accept that I might be wrong, this topic is hard and there are a lot of confusing stuff. If you want you can twitt your concerns and mention someone from rxjs core team to get an authoritative answer and if I am wrong I will definitely reconsider my current thoughts :) Regards
I love the real-life examples at the end of the video. I've read about hot/cold observable n times and always ended up not catching it. I also love your explanation for the duplicated REST calls, which I've noticed a couple of times in my projects without understanding the reason behind it. Thanks Dmytro!
Could you please do a detailed video about angular elements(custom elements like web components)... that can be imported and used inside any framework (or simply inside a plain HTML page).
For the example provided in the video, what will happen if we replace "shareReplay" with "share" which is another operator that turns observable from "cold" to "hot"?
I am struggling with multi component (1 parent, 4 siblings) reactive form. Cannot fill edit values coming from mongo db (API call). I get activatedRoute params foreach to check for id query param in url. Then I call http service to get db data. This I do in parent ngoninit. then on ngoninit of child, I am trying to use the @input editformdata but it doesn't work (asynchronous call to api in parent). I tried ngonchanges but it works sometimes and don't sometimes.
Hi, thanks for your content! Maybe it d be interesting to add the unsubcribing differences between hot and cold observables, as this can be quite disturbing and even lead to memory leaks and so. More precisely the necessity to unsubcribing from hot obs on the destroying phase of components, whenever the async pipe could not be used. Thanks again
Can rxjs library be used for functional programming? I cannot find functors like either, task or io. It’s only for streams functors? Can this functors be created in rxjs?
Yes, because the two subscriptions happen simultaneously. If the second subscription would occur after the http response arrives than it would show nothing as you have missed the value. The 'replay' in shareReplay makes sure that you will get the last emission even if you subscribe after the emission took place. Ngrx selectors, BehaviorSubject, ReplaySubject: they all have this replay behaviour.
Hi Anna! In context of the video, it is pretty much the same - it is an object which you pass inside the subscribe method. In the code, Observer it is an interface which subscriber implements.
8:50 why every subscriber is taking the cached value? (why it cache that value?) ...i'll expect that every subscriber creates its own instance of that closure
I disagree with you. You've mistaken on 10th minute. Because you created closure, but not a multicasting. Try to add somthing to console in 20th line, and you will see, that is different stream.
Hi Denis! Thanks for your remark. Talking about hot/cold observables the "multicasting" means sharing of the values/events from producer (data source) with subscribers which is being achieved exactly by using closures. This is how I understood it from a quick chat with Ben Lesh (Team Lead of Rxjs Core Team).
@@bukanaka мы просто недавно с друзьями тоже прогоняли через него несколько моих видео и тоже временами очень смешно переводил, но в целом очень годно, Яндекс прям круто сделали всё) но там же я ещё с ошибками говорю, + акцент) так что не удивительно, что алгоритм временами сбоит))
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Как же приятно слышать английскую речь с таким же акцентом как у меня 😃 гораздо понятнее чем какой-нибудь американец😁
You are naturally gifted to teach and explain very very well... this is a skill that isn't inherently present with many people but you seem to have loads of it... this video was so much to learn because of ur amazing skill to explain so nicely and clearly....
Thanks a lot! I am happy to hear that it was so useful!
Dmitriy, thanks for tackling this topic first of all!! Though, I'm not 100% sure that you were right concerning shareReplay(), which according to you produces "HOT" observable.
The thing is, as you said right in the very beginning: "Cold obs. starts producing after subscribe called, and hot emits always" . Talking about shareReplay:
1. Yes, it makes the source sharable sharable (so the logic executed one time only)
2. Yes, it keeps and replay last value (due to replay part of it)
3. Thought, it doesn't emit values before after the first subscribe() is invoked.
Imho, shareReplay in a nutshell is a "cold + multicasting", not hot + multicasting.
A proper example of hot observable is Subject (and all its flavours of course), since we can next values into it from the very beginning, and subscribers will miss them if they subscribe late, but also will share the same values which it produces. Talking about an example of an operator for transforming cold into hot observable I would say that it is publish-ish ones. E.g. publishReplay(), returning a connectable Observable, would let you call connect() on it, before it has any subscribers, activating the logic beforehand (so called hot composition).
All of this brings me to the conclusion:
1. There are three type of observables: a) cold unicasting (e.g. http.get), b) cold multicasting (e.g. transformed with shareReplay), hot multicasting (e.g. Subject).
2. There is no possibility to create hot unicasting, due to the fact that subscribers of the same data source will always share the same values being emitted by it.
P.s. I would really appreciate to hear your valuable feedback, since my mind is gonna blow if I doesn't settle with the final understanding of this topic =)
Hi Arthur,
Thanks for your comment. By telling "Cold obs. starts producing after subscribe called" I mean that value producer (data source) is being created by calling subscribe() (which ultimately invokes (observer) => {...} callback). In case of hot observables, the data source is being created even before we invoke (observer) => {...} callback. Here is the classical example of making cold observable hot (with replaySubject the logic is similar):
```
function makeHot(cold) {
const subject = new Subject();
cold.subscribe(subject);
return new Observable((observer) => subject.subscribe(observer));
}
```
And this is how I see this: Subject, in this case, acts as DataSource (Producer) which is created outside of the resulting observable which we are returning, and if the source(producer) is created outside of Observable - it makes it hot. So, my understanding of Hot / Cold obs is boiling down to the Value Producer and where it was created. It is how I interpret it BUT of course, I accept that I might be wrong, this topic is hard and there are a lot of confusing stuff. If you want you can twitt your concerns and mention someone from rxjs core team to get an authoritative answer and if I am wrong I will definitely reconsider my current thoughts :) Regards
I love the real-life examples at the end of the video. I've read about hot/cold observable n times and always ended up not catching it.
I also love your explanation for the duplicated REST calls, which I've noticed a couple of times in my projects without understanding the reason behind it.
Thanks Dmytro!
Absolutely Brilliant!!!
I love your explanation, easy to understand with slow speed thank you so much
Knowledge improvement before sleep lmao. Thanks for sharing the video dmytro!
The best explanation of issue that I had ever seen. Thanks for your job. Amazing!!!!
Very useful videos!
Watching it with a huge interest!
Thanks, Dmytro!
Hello from Kyiv 🙂
Priveet! :) Thanks for your feedback I am glad you liked the vid ;)
очень круто объясняешь. многие темы знаю, но часто смотрю как просто ты их растолковываешь. спасибо
Definitely into "favourites" playlist. Thanks for amazing explanation
That shareReplay() blown my mind. I've always struggled with those problem.
Glad to hear that ;)
wow.. mind blowing mate
Clear explanation, with simple but smart examples, thank you!
Very good video, keep up the good work!
Best preview picture ever !!!
😄👍🏻
Четко, в меру подробно и главное понятно. Спасибо)
Could you please do a detailed video about angular elements(custom elements like web components)... that can be imported and used inside any framework (or simply inside a plain HTML page).
Excellent explanation! Thanks a lot!
Thanks! it was a good idea to show with an http call. Good Job!
Great tip about shareReplay! I think it would be useful to make another videos with the typical mistakes of newcomers to Angular
Cool idea, actually! Thank you :)
Cool, thank you so much
excellent! сразу все понятно стало, примеры супер! спасибо большое 🤩
You are the best Dmytro
Please, make a hole video about all or most important rxjs operators.
Really great video, again.
Thx
Just amazing!
Nice rxjs skillz bro
превью на видео топчик!) ну и как всегда очень полезная нагрузка!! супер, спасибо!!
Absolutely useful , Thank you :)
Димон - как всегда красавелла!
Great video. Tremendous job.
You could show use case of share without replay thought.
Anyway, thanks!
great content as always :)
Very useful video,thanks!
Thank you so much. It was really helpful for me. ❤
For the example provided in the video, what will happen if we replace "shareReplay" with "share" which is another operator that turns observable from "cold" to "hot"?
Great video! Thank you
I am struggling with multi component (1 parent, 4 siblings) reactive form. Cannot fill edit values coming from mongo db (API call).
I get activatedRoute params foreach to check for id query param in url. Then I call http service to get db data. This I do in parent ngoninit.
then on ngoninit of child, I am trying to use the @input editformdata but it doesn't work (asynchronous call to api in parent). I tried ngonchanges but it works sometimes and don't sometimes.
Hi, thanks for your content! Maybe it d be interesting to add the unsubcribing differences between hot and cold observables, as this can be quite disturbing and even lead to memory leaks and so. More precisely the necessity to unsubcribing from hot obs on the destroying phase of components, whenever the async pipe could not be used. Thanks again
Подскажите, какие полезные практики вы применял при изучении английского для IT? Может посоветуете какие-то курсы или книги?
Can rxjs library be used for functional programming? I cannot find functors like either, task or io. It’s only for streams functors? Can this functors be created in rxjs?
Wouldn't share() would work instead of shareReplay()? Regarding the example at the end
Yes, because the two subscriptions happen simultaneously. If the second subscription would occur after the http response arrives than it would show nothing as you have missed the value. The 'replay' in shareReplay makes sure that you will get the last emission even if you subscribe after the emission took place. Ngrx selectors, BehaviorSubject, ReplaySubject: they all have this replay behaviour.
@@JoepKockelkorn Thanks for help, Joep! ;)
you're the best!
so valueChange event from formcontrol is also "hot", right ?
Yes.
Thank you so much
I was facing the exact same problem with double http call some time ago. If I just knew before😩
thank you!
Hi! Could you please explain to me what is the difference between observer and subscriber? :)
Hi Anna! In context of the video, it is pretty much the same - it is an object which you pass inside the subscribe method. In the code, Observer it is an interface which subscriber implements.
8:50 why every subscriber is taking the cached value? (why it cache that value?) ...i'll expect that every subscriber creates its own instance of that closure
Is this source code shared anywhere?
Enjoy.
I disagree with you. You've mistaken on 10th minute. Because you created closure, but not a multicasting. Try to add somthing to console in 20th line, and you will see, that is different stream.
Hi Denis! Thanks for your remark. Talking about hot/cold observables the "multicasting" means sharing of the values/events from producer (data source) with subscribers which is being achieved exactly by using closures. This is how I understood it from a quick chat with Ben Lesh (Team Lead of Rxjs Core Team).
thanks
I understand the difference but I need some sort of keyword to recall the definition. `hot` and `cold` is not helping much.
I do not know if it could be perfectly correct but you could thing about them like "lazy"(cold) & "eager"(hot) ones
@@DecodedFrontend that makes sense. Thank you. I will re-watch the video with the new keywords in mind. I think that will help me better.
Observables created using fromEvent are cold observables.
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😂 хаха! Это случайно не синхронный переводчик Яндекс браузера?
@@DecodedFrontend Он самый))
@@bukanaka мы просто недавно с друзьями тоже прогоняли через него несколько моих видео и тоже временами очень смешно переводил, но в целом очень годно, Яндекс прям круто сделали всё) но там же я ещё с ошибками говорю, + акцент) так что не удивительно, что алгоритм временами сбоит))
@@DecodedFrontend Эт да, но вполне понятно бывает всё :)
Good night