@@LindaDutton-2025 Glen Magill believed it was on Bluff Springs Mountain, but I didn't think so. He was never able to prove his theory even though he tried for years and spent a lot of money in the effort.
53 years ago a few of my buddies and I made many hiking trips into the Superstitions. Not an easy trek for anyone, have to be young. Beautiful area. Warning shots were fired at us a a few times when we wandered into certain areas. The gold bugs were very paranoid.
My stepfather was a jeweler, and I remember back in 1976 2 older Mexican men come over to ask him if he could melt some gold they had, I remember my stepfather showing it to my mom and me what looked like popcorn candy like the ones you buy at fairgrounds, they told my stepfather they found it in the Arizona by the superstition mountain a place called pine trees or something like that ( I was a teenager so it's been long time) after my stepfather turned it to gold bars ( they looked like 2 inches by 4 inches or so ) he called an other jeweler friend of his to look at it and they both said it was the best they ever seen, the 2 men told my stepfather they had a lot more and they were coming back but they never did.
As a resident of Apache Junction since 1980, I’ve heard many stories about the “Gold” in the Superstition Mountains. All I can say is the Superstition Mountains are magical. I literally get to see her beauty, every single day. Our AJ High School mascot are the Prospectors. So the story of Jacob Waltz put Apache Junction on the map. All I believe about the “Gold” is the Superstition Mountains herself.
I'm 70 Yrs. old. When I was 9 yrs. old, we moved to Phoenix, Arizona. That's when I first heard of the Dutchman and the Superstition mountains. Great tale.
I live in the greater Phoenix area and know a number of people have been lost looking for the mine, or just hiking the Superstitions, one earlier this month (Sept.,2024). Mainly because they are not properly equipped. or experienced for the desert heat...but still they come. El Mirage, Arizona
I really love these stories from the superstition mountains. Today's episode really demonstrates why there was always so much secrecy surrounding the dutchman's gold. Now it's clear to me that people looking for the mine were bound to be disappointed. It's the caches that are the important things.
What A great story told. I love to listen to old timers tell stories. The descriptions given are so vivid.. Nothing more exciting than hearing how the Dutchman’s cashes were worth more than mist could fathom. That last picture of the gold veins & silver was absolutely beautiful. I love history & anything to do with treasure hunting.
Absolutely Another Great Story Larry 😀👍..You got my juices flowing for sure.. Ohhh how I wish I had your knowledge of the Mnts. … and was 30 years younger 😉I’m planning on coming out for a couple weeks in December.. Most of the time up in Flagstaff but will be in the valley for 3-4 days.. be wonderful to make your acquaintance. Take care my friend
Larry, we know each other and will say hello (as I always do) on the next trip to the museum. I enjoy your videos and trust they will continue. I consider your information as the best quality coming out of the mountains. I have a couple of good stories to relate about my time in the mountains and especially one particular time we found a little gold. Thanks, from your Alaska acquaintance of many years.
@@larryhedrick254 do you have a museum? Lived in AZ all my life.. heard the Dutchman story many many times.. also hiked the superstition mountains many times as a hike, not for gold.. you always hear about people going missing, sometimes for nefarious reasons having to do w/gold. I'd love to hear this story first hand if there is a museum to hear it in.. I'm at recker & university these days, maybe another hike, but a little further is in my future.. it will be cool soon so maybe..
@@traitorousbipeds I founded the Superstition Mountain Lost Dutchman Museum with Tom Kollenborn 4 miles north of Apache Junction. Since 2010 I have not been associated with it however.
He did the right thing if he kept it secret. The government would of took it all . And left him spinning in the middle of the road like a hubcap in a roadrunner cartoon.
@@dorothylewis1207 Nope! My high school English teacher would get a laugh out of that. I'm 72 and I think the only reason she passed me is because she knew I wanted to learn more than I appeared to. Notice the correct usage of "to". Example: I should HAVE been able TO come up with at least TWO examples TOO.
Another great story. I never knew Roberts and the Dutchman were good friends and neighbors. That shines a new light for me on the deathbed confession. Thanks Larry.
My friend referred me to a book about the Lost Dutchman's gold; the title of the book is Thunder God's gold, written by Barry Storm, I don't remember when the book was written, it was old when I read it in the late 1950's. It was a very informative and interesting read. IFB
According to some historians in Wickenburg, samples of the gold Jacob Waltz "brought in from the superstitions" are nothing like the gold found in a few spots in the Superstitions, but are a perfect match for Vulture mine gold. Interesting that the "dutchman" gold was found just before the thieves were caught at Vulture mine, all evidence says he was fencing stolen gold.
I found the lost Spanish mines in the late 70s in San Diego found a lot of silver. Tin can with the clam in showing last time Thay were worked. I think it was like 1847 somewhere close to that so cool.
Very interesting to say the least. This does prove that the Peralta Stones were made by a Mexican man that had worked for Peralta family. Thank you for this historical information.
Look up the "Black Prince mine" near Ruby AZ. A few miles south east is where the Peralta's got their money . The mine had quartz Cristals the biggest ever seen at the entrance. The Spanish tailings were full of flower Gold. Part of the land grant the US Government never took away from the Family. 80 years old when as a kid use play there, 40 years ago sold mining equipment to a Geologist who said he owned it, he used an underground Smelter out of the area, always paid cash. He claimed there was a hoard of Spainsh Gold 20 miles due west, on Reservation land, saud he found it after a gully washer reburied it. Wouldn't tell me where. His story jibes with local lore of Indians burning a Spainsh wagon train of Gold heading for The WHITE Dove of the Desert near Tucson.
@@Zgreasewood Wow, sounds like he was in a hot mineralized area. Very smart to smelt ore underground to keep a low profile from the curious ones. Thanks for sharing.
@@bradw7688 underground smelters are illegal operations, modern detection methods have ended most of them, smaller ones are at work in Mexico with ways of limiting exposure. You must be in the "Family" to use them.
If there is high grade ore there, it could be acquired by another joint venture between Barrick and Newmont. In 2022, Nevada Gold Mines produced 94.2 metric tons of gold, which was 68.5% more than the next largest gold mine.
So cool I love the Superstition’s, since I was a kid looking for Indian pottery in the washes, my friends mom found a nice rim piece but as she pulled on it a full pot came out of the sand, I got goosebumps. I think I might have shot back in time in that moment the sky looked different than before the February air had a recognizable scent of wet earth and creosote. I believe that I was experiencing a fold in time for a fleeting moment I had a spirit in me that was as pure and powerful as the Superstition Mountains themselves.
Hi, I always enjoy your videos. I hope you can answer these questions for me. 1, Based on the pics of the KNOWN rocks/ samples found, is it fair to say they were hard mined? aka drilling and blasting was needed to for those rocks to be that shape etc that we see? 2, is it legal to day to wander through these mountains with a metal detector? 3, What is legal to do in those mountains today?
I have seen a few documentaries on this gold stash. It was never determined whether the stories were true or not. Your version of the lost gold kind of makes me want to dig for gold 🎉🎉🎉🎉
1963 I was 13 years old we lived in Tempe AZ in a trailer park on Apache Jct across the street from ASU. There was a man named Noble that lived 3 trailers from us that said he is a gold prospector. He had a gas engine that ran a rock crusher he crushed rock into sand then panned out the gold in his kitchen sink. Noble was secret about where he gets gold and would never show people anything. He had a truck and motor bike, he would be gone 3 or 4 days then spend 4 weeks crushing rock and panning gold but would never talk to adults or show anyone anything. School was out for the summer we were moving back to Illinois in 2 days. I saw Noble and said goodbye that is when he showed me 9 glass quart mason jars of gold in his kitchen and told me more details about knowing where to fine his cash and panning in the kitchen. 62 years later I see your video now I know what a cash is. '.
Well. The way I see it. The government already knows where everything is at. All of my personal gold locations that while always give up some gold, are always, always, adjacent to wildernesses or national parks, or places where you can't so much as remove a pebble without uncle sam getting nasty, if you were to trace the gold to the source. The dutchmans mine must be within the Supersition Wilderness Area. If it wasn't, I don't believe they would have put a wilderness area there.
I understand that analysis of the gold can pinpoint the area where it came from, if not the exact mine it came from. Was such an analysis ever done on the dutchmans' gold? Perhaps that is where we should be looking in the area it came from, instead of "the caches?" If such an analysis was never done, does anyone know why?
Jim Yes, a non destructive test was done at the school of mines in Nevada on the matchbox against all the mines in the Superstition Mining district (Goldfield) and the Vulture Mine at Wickenberg where some claimed the Dutchman hi-graded ore. Joe Porterie was the chief assayer of most of these mines. It is true that a good assayer not only knows what mine a given sample come from but he knows what depth it come from but ONLY if he assayed the mine in the first place. The test proved the Dutchman’s gold was dissimilar from all those mines and was from an unknown source. In conclusion, no! If an assay has not been done in the mine the Dutchman’s gold came from no one can say.
@@larryhedrick254 Ruling out where it DID NOT come from, is the next best thing. Dissimilar gold areas should be able to be ruled out ... not perfect, but something.
Walter: Although Jacob Waltz indeed was in Californian working in the goldfields, Im sure you must be referring the one of the Woodburys went to California to raise investors and took a good quantity of gold with him to show to investors. In this he failed completely.
Always treasure this man's works and stories. 🔹Truly appreciate all the efforts that go into these. 🔹I wish TH-cam would correct their "Audio flaws" that cause the background music to overshadow the Narrative. Best Thoughts ... ✨ Beth W Tennessee, USA
Im a local to this area. I have been right on top of all that. Very interesting vibe i have got being around that area. Its wierd. Sonething deffinitly is there.
I was under the impression that high grade ore was 8 to 10 grams a ton. It takes a tremendous amount of work to stamp and wash all that ore to recover the 8 to 10 grams of gold.
@@CBD-LIFE Wow, that means there's still plenty of gold out there. Those early miners probably only had their sights set on picking up nuggets and wouldn't bother with much of anything less. I guess that's why modern prospectors look for the tailings at old mines that were considered played out by the turn of the century.
one-tenth to one-half ounce of gold per ton is considered high grade ore today. But to mine it today, the gold deposit needs to have millions of tons of this high grade gold ore reserve. The 19th and Early 20th centuries miners could mine pockets of high grade gold ore that only had a few hundred or a few thousand tons of high grade gold ore. Some of the early miners found extremely high grade surface precious metals ore that had 10 to 1,000 ounces of precious metals per ton, with dropping down to one-tenth ounce of gold per ton after mining fifty to a couple of hundred into the ore body. This is called "secondary enrichment" , where the precious and base metals are weathering with eroding back into the ore deposit, instead of weathering with eroding away from the ore deposit as the weathering erosion caries off the surrounding ore deposit's country rock strata (gang rock).
@@michaelfercik3691 ChatGPT AI disagrees with you. High-grade gold ore is typically defined by its gold content, measured in grams per tonne (g/t) or ounces per ton (oz/t). Today, ore with gold content of: 10 grams per tonne (g/t) or higher is often considered high-grade. 0.3 ounces per ton (oz/t) or higher is also viewed as high-grade in the industry. However, what constitutes high-grade can vary based on several factors including the location of the mine, current market conditions, and the cost of extraction. In some regions or for certain types of deposits, ore with gold content as low as 5 g/t might be considered high-grade if the economic conditions support profitable extraction.
Lee: There is NO evidence Waltz ever worked at the Vulture Mine. In fact, Joe Porterie, who was the chief assayer for the Vulture and the Goldfield mines. And assayed the gold from under the Dutchman’s bed, unequivocally declared there was no comparison.
How come this has never been in the local news if it's been found? I've lived in the Phoenix area since 1998 and have heard nothing but crickets, coyotes, bobcats, etc. I would think the local media, if not the national media would have picked up on a story this huge.
WOW! How the site has changed, the title score is different and what's with the constant music in the background? No need for that, makes it hard to hear whats being said. I love Mysteries of The Superstition Mountains but ditch the music.
Joe Porterie was the official assayer for the Vulture mine. Joe also assayed the gold that came from under the Dutchman’s bed when it was sold. Mr Porterie stated there was no comparison between the two and the Dutchman’s gold was not from any of the many mines Porterie assayed
what a great story somewhere i heard someone say its not about the destination its the journey in my mind that phrase fits the dutchman legend perfectly the lore around the mine the clues the people etc. thats the journey the destination is finding the cache or the mine that the cache came from is the destination obvioulsly the journey is more interesting than the destination
If they found 2 out of the 3 stashes of gold, my gut feeling says there are 100 other locations still to be found in these Gold bearing hills and Aztec/Conquistador antiquities, mineral hiding places.
Is the Mullins ditch the one thatruns from the east to Queen Valley? What is it's source? It used to run a fair amount of water. Anyone anything about the canyon east ot Queen Valley where a lot of blasting and grading was done to make a large, relatively flat area?
Directly east behind the dam is a major flood control basin carved out of a. Large natural flat area. This area is mostly dry as a bone but surface water seeps below ground and feeds an 18 to one foot pipe structure under the dam which runs constantly keeping the Mullins ditch full. During flooding the water can be diverted down Queen Creek retaining some down the ditch. Queen Creeks source it from about 5 miles above Superior Az and a score of large washes between Superior and the dam. I have seen it in flood and it can be terrifying when running full blast.
@@larryhedrick254 thank you sir! Years ago I drove down behind the dam. I was told by locals that is was a place they would camp and picnic under the large trees. Do you know anything about Col. Rogers of Rogers canyon, mt., trough, trail etc.? All I could find was that he had mines and a mill in the east Superstitions. TIA!
I still have my red book , like page six , Thar is gold in them thar mountains , it is luring and luring me on , It isn`t the gold I am after so much , as the pleasure of seeking gold . Robert L. Garman , page 6
The phrase 'There's gold in them thar hills' comes from Mark Twain's 1892 novel The American Claimant. Garman is signing for the whole page but is quoting Mark Twain.
Well the gold was real and it's there some where but it's a big area to search I always wondered if many of the assay offices there were correct cuz they had said it did not match any of the other gold samples from other mines in the area at that time so it's real and so is this story but remember that no amount of gold is worth your life the mountain there are a sacred spot for the Indians and you should not disturb this area many lose there lives for this reason
If I had a nickel for every time someone claimed to have "found the Dutchman's gold", I'd be richer than the Dutchman was supposed to be.
I found it. Just because liars claim the same does not mean that I didn't. On Bluff Springs Mountain. 6:02
@@LindaDutton-2025 Glen Magill believed it was on Bluff Springs Mountain, but I didn't think so. He was never able to prove his theory even though he tried for years and spent a lot of money in the effort.
I dunno those nickles are barely worth anything these days..
@@MatthewHensley8304 Even if we just took the metal value of the coin, I'd still be well off :)
I found it yesterday!
53 years ago a few of my buddies and I made many hiking trips into the Superstitions. Not an easy trek for anyone, have to be young. Beautiful area. Warning shots were fired at us a a few times when we wandered into certain areas. The gold bugs were very paranoid.
My stepfather was a jeweler, and I remember back in 1976 2 older Mexican men come over to ask him if he could melt some gold they had, I remember my stepfather showing it to my mom and me what looked like popcorn candy like the ones you buy at fairgrounds, they told my stepfather they found it in the Arizona by the superstition mountain a place called pine trees or something like that ( I was a teenager so it's been long time) after my stepfather turned it to gold bars ( they looked like 2 inches by 4 inches or so ) he called an other jeweler friend of his to look at it and they both said it was the best they ever seen, the 2 men told my stepfather they had a lot more and they were coming back but they never did.
Great share.
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The music really is annoying.
I looked for it. Bada Bing
You will never spend a penny of it if you find it
As a resident of Apache Junction since 1980, I’ve heard many stories about the “Gold” in the Superstition Mountains. All I can say is the Superstition Mountains are magical. I literally get to see her beauty, every single day. Our AJ High School mascot are the Prospectors. So the story of Jacob Waltz put Apache Junction on the map. All I believe about the “Gold” is the Superstition Mountains herself.
We miss Charlie , RIP.
Mr Clay Worst is a gentleman and a great historian! All of his interviews and presentations are a must see.
Never mind the gold - a cache of Colt Dragoon revolvers in good shape would be worth megabucks!
Good to see Charlie in a video again. Headed up the Trail this evening - looks like the fire is getting under control a bit. Great video, as always.
Good luck!
Wish I was there.
Be safe. 👍
@@LuckyBaldwin777 No luck needed - not going past Goldfield!
@@ImperialCityNord Ahh, I got it. I was thinking trail into the mountains. Have a good time.
Great story, great job telling it. If I lived in the area I wouldn't be playing golf in my spare time lol
Love the old stories. Makes me want to head out west and look for a gold stash! LOL
I'm 70 Yrs. old. When I was 9 yrs. old, we moved to Phoenix, Arizona. That's when I first heard of the Dutchman and the Superstition mountains. Great tale.
im 71 graduatd from central high, wrote about it for a englidh lit grade
I live in the greater Phoenix area and know a number of people have been lost looking for the mine, or just hiking the Superstitions, one earlier this month (Sept.,2024). Mainly because they are not properly equipped. or experienced for the desert heat...but still they come.
El Mirage, Arizona
Great video. I love the idea that there is still gold to be found in the Superstitions.
Great story, Larry. Thanks for posting. I wish I could sit down with you and listen to your stories in person.
Wouldn't that be a treat! ✨
I really love these stories from the superstition mountains. Today's episode really demonstrates why there was always so much secrecy surrounding the dutchman's gold. Now it's clear to me that people looking for the mine were bound to be disappointed. It's the caches that are the important things.
What A great story told.
I love to listen to old timers tell stories.
The descriptions given are so vivid..
Nothing more exciting than hearing how the Dutchman’s cashes were worth more than mist could fathom.
That last picture of the gold veins & silver was absolutely beautiful.
I love history & anything to do with treasure hunting.
Love the story, hate the invasive music track. Delete it and repost this because it's worth a listen.
Just turn your captions on and read it. The information will be easier to recall later.
I've always wondered about the lost Dutchman. I really enjoyed listening to this story, Thanks for sharing this. 👍
Relax francis😊
@@wellsjdanI hate it too
😢🎹🎺🎹🎺🎸🎵🎶🎵🎵🎶🎹🎹🙉
Absolutely Another Great Story Larry 😀👍..You got my juices flowing for sure.. Ohhh how I wish I had your knowledge of the Mnts. … and was 30 years younger 😉I’m planning on coming out for a couple weeks in December.. Most of the time up in Flagstaff but will be in the valley for 3-4 days.. be wonderful to make your acquaintance. Take care my friend
Larry, we know each other and will say hello (as I always do) on the next trip to the museum. I enjoy your videos and trust they will continue. I consider your information as the best quality coming out of the mountains.
I have a couple of good stories to relate about my time in the mountains and especially one particular time we found a little gold.
Thanks, from your Alaska acquaintance of many years.
I look forward to hearing those stories
@@larryhedrick254 do you have a museum? Lived in AZ all my life.. heard the Dutchman story many many times.. also hiked the superstition mountains many times as a hike, not for gold.. you always hear about people going missing, sometimes for nefarious reasons having to do w/gold. I'd love to hear this story first hand if there is a museum to hear it in.. I'm at recker & university these days, maybe another hike, but a little further is in my future.. it will be cool soon so maybe..
@@traitorousbipeds
I founded the Superstition Mountain Lost Dutchman Museum with Tom Kollenborn 4 miles north of Apache Junction. Since 2010 I have not been associated with it however.
He did the right thing if he kept it secret. The government would of took it all . And left him spinning in the middle of the road like a hubcap in a roadrunner cartoon.
It's "would have", not " would of".
Government, had No right to make such a demand!!!
@@redfields5070English Teacher? 😬
@@dorothylewis1207 Grammar, spelling, typo nazi, lots of 'em around.
@@dorothylewis1207
Nope! My high school English teacher would get a laugh out of that. I'm 72 and I think the only reason she passed me is because she knew I wanted to learn more than I appeared to. Notice the correct usage of "to".
Example: I should HAVE been able TO come up with at least TWO examples TOO.
Another great story. I never knew Roberts and the Dutchman were good friends and neighbors. That shines a new light for me on the deathbed confession. Thanks Larry.
Who's Roberts ?
Gideon Roberts. He and Dick Holmes were the two men with the Dutchman when he died according to one version of the story.
@@LuckyBaldwin777👍
My friend referred me to a book about the Lost Dutchman's gold; the title of the book is Thunder God's gold, written by Barry Storm, I don't remember when the book was written, it was old when I read it in the late 1950's. It was a very informative and interesting read. IFB
Fantastic!!! Thank you...
This would have been a great production without the music. Is there anyway to reproduce it so the story can be enjoyed?
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Great storytelling, thanks for the video. I hope we hear the whole story someday.
Enjoyed listening ! Thankyou
I so enjoyed that. New Subscriber here. Hope there's more to come. THANK YOU !!!!!
Great episode!
Rest in peace, Howard "Van" VanDevender!
You will always be remembered! Thank you for all you taught me!
Thanks very much Larry. Very interesting.
Take care my friend. Ro
Great to hear, reckon there much more hidden in mountains ???
More than likely no. There’s been tens of thousands people scouring them for decades now. Something would have come up by now.
I'm almost 60 and have been following this story my entire adult life
Have you searched for the mine yet.
This is excellent thank you so much for sharing
Thank you for that that was a great story I'd love to try to save this and hang on to it
THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY DAY AND OTHERS BETTER.
Hi Larry! Great story I love it! I'm willing to bet someone will find that last big catch near these 4 red peaks! 💛👏👍
According to some historians in Wickenburg, samples of the gold Jacob Waltz "brought in from the superstitions" are nothing like the gold found in a few spots in the Superstitions, but are a perfect match for Vulture mine gold. Interesting that the "dutchman" gold was found just before the thieves were caught at Vulture mine, all evidence says he was fencing stolen gold.
And according to science, Waltz' gold did not come from the vulture mine
I love it, love it love it, Thanks Larry & Gang, more please.
I found the lost Spanish mines in the late 70s in San Diego found a lot of silver. Tin can with the clam in showing last time Thay were worked. I think it was like 1847 somewhere close to that so cool.
Sure do miss Charlie, it was good to see him again in a video. Great story
great stuff!!!
It sure would be exciting to find the lost Dutchman mine. 😊
Very interesting to say the least. This does prove that the Peralta Stones were made by a Mexican man that had worked for Peralta family.
Thank you for this historical information.
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Look up the "Black Prince mine" near Ruby AZ. A few miles south east is where the Peralta's got their money . The mine had quartz Cristals the biggest ever seen at the entrance. The Spanish tailings were full of flower Gold. Part of the land grant the US Government never took away from the Family. 80 years old when as a kid use play there, 40 years ago sold mining equipment to a Geologist who said he owned it, he used an underground Smelter out of the area, always paid cash. He claimed there was a hoard of Spainsh Gold 20 miles due west, on Reservation land, saud he found it after a gully washer reburied it. Wouldn't tell me where. His story jibes with local lore of Indians burning a Spainsh wagon train of Gold heading for The WHITE Dove of the Desert near Tucson.
@@Zgreasewood
Wow, sounds like he was in a hot mineralized area. Very smart to smelt ore underground to keep a low profile from the curious ones.
Thanks for sharing.
@@bradw7688 underground smelters are illegal operations, modern detection methods have ended most of them, smaller ones are at work in Mexico with ways of limiting exposure. You must be in the "Family" to use them.
Interesting! Thank You!
Great story Larry
WOW! Thx for sharing...........⛏⛏⚒⚒
Fascinating series. Thanks.
I loved living in Gold Canyon. So beautiful on the far East side😊
If there is high grade ore there, it could be acquired by another joint venture between Barrick and Newmont. In 2022, Nevada Gold Mines produced 94.2 metric tons of gold, which was 68.5% more than the next largest gold mine.
So cool I love the Superstition’s, since I was a kid looking for Indian pottery in the washes, my friends mom found a nice rim piece but as she pulled on it a full pot came out of the sand, I got goosebumps. I think I might have shot back in time in that moment the sky looked different than before the February air had a recognizable scent of wet earth and creosote. I believe that I was experiencing a fold in time for a fleeting moment I had a spirit in me that was as pure and powerful as the Superstition Mountains themselves.
Hi, I always enjoy your videos. I hope you can answer these questions for me. 1, Based on the pics of the KNOWN rocks/ samples found, is it fair to say they were hard mined? aka drilling and blasting was needed to for those rocks to be that shape etc that we see? 2, is it legal to day to wander through these mountains with a metal detector? 3, What is legal to do in those mountains today?
@@samstewart4807
None of the ore, rocks, gold shown in this video were actually real. They were all facsimiles.
I have seen a few documentaries on this gold stash. It was never determined whether the stories were true or not. Your version of the lost gold kind of makes me want to dig for gold 🎉🎉🎉🎉
gotta remember someone made that mine so just think what they went through it tells me they were a bit tougher than modern men'
Tougher?
By a galactic magnitude. 😂
A time of wooden ships and iron men.
Tough MEN made this Country 🇺🇲❤
@@dorothylewis1207
absolutely i was raised by one my great grandpa who was born in 1916
1963 I was 13 years old we lived in Tempe AZ in a trailer park on Apache Jct across the street from ASU. There was a man named Noble that lived 3 trailers from us that said he is a gold prospector. He had a gas engine that ran a rock crusher he crushed rock into sand then panned out the gold in his kitchen sink. Noble was secret about where he gets gold and would never show people anything. He had a truck and motor bike, he would be gone 3 or 4 days then spend 4 weeks crushing rock and panning gold but would never talk to adults or show anyone anything. School was out for the summer we were moving back to Illinois in 2 days. I saw Noble and said goodbye that is when he showed me 9 glass quart mason jars of gold in his kitchen and told me more details about knowing where to fine his cash and panning in the kitchen. 62 years later I see your video now I know what a cash is. '.
Great story! Thanks!
Great story!! Would love to listen to the whole thing but the music is very annoying
Well. The way I see it. The government already knows where everything is at. All of my personal gold locations that while always give up some gold, are always, always, adjacent to wildernesses or national parks, or places where you can't so much as remove a pebble without uncle sam getting nasty, if you were to trace the gold to the source. The dutchmans mine must be within the Supersition Wilderness Area. If it wasn't, I don't believe they would have put a wilderness area there.
Its by lake mead
They put wilderness there to keep out non native americans and their lust for gold.
I have never forgotten about the time we dug out some dirt from the octave curve and we never got back to the same area for my share😅😊
I understand that analysis of the gold can pinpoint the area where it came from, if not the exact mine it came from. Was such an analysis ever done on the dutchmans' gold? Perhaps that is where we should be looking in the area it came from, instead of "the caches?" If such an analysis was never done, does anyone know why?
Jim
Yes, a non destructive test was done at the school of mines in Nevada on the matchbox against all the mines in the Superstition Mining district (Goldfield) and the Vulture Mine at Wickenberg where some claimed the Dutchman hi-graded ore. Joe Porterie was the chief assayer of most of these mines.
It is true that a good assayer not only knows what mine a given sample come from but he knows what depth it come from but ONLY if he assayed the mine in the first place.
The test proved the Dutchman’s gold was dissimilar from all those mines and was from an unknown source.
In conclusion, no! If an assay has not been done in the mine the Dutchman’s gold came from no one can say.
@@larryhedrick254 Ruling out where it DID NOT come from, is the next best thing. Dissimilar gold areas should be able to be ruled out ... not perfect, but something.
I’m disabled / partially deaf. I can barely distinguish spoken words from music .
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Loved listening to the story
Great Video...
The story is a fascinating mystery, and apparently based on actual events.
Thanks for all your hard work to keep bringing this wonderful content keep it coming (4th through 8th Picacho .. high school Eloy)
Walter:
Although Jacob Waltz indeed was in Californian working in the goldfields, Im sure you must be referring the one of the Woodburys went to California to raise investors and took a good quantity of gold with him to show to investors. In this he failed completely.
Always treasure this man's works and stories.
🔹Truly appreciate all the efforts that go into these.
🔹I wish TH-cam would correct their "Audio flaws" that cause the background music to overshadow the Narrative.
Best Thoughts ... ✨
Beth
W Tennessee, USA
Im a local to this area. I have been right on top of all that. Very interesting vibe i have got being around that area. Its wierd. Sonething deffinitly is there.
I was under the impression that high grade ore was 8 to 10 grams a ton. It takes a tremendous amount of work to stamp and wash all that ore to recover the 8 to 10 grams of gold.
It can be ounces per ton very easily
@@CBD-LIFE Wow, that means there's still plenty of gold out there. Those early miners probably only had their sights set on picking up nuggets and wouldn't bother with much of anything less. I guess that's why modern prospectors look for the tailings at old mines that were considered played out by the turn of the century.
one-tenth to one-half ounce of gold per ton is considered high grade ore today. But to mine it today, the gold deposit needs to have millions of tons of this high grade gold ore reserve. The 19th and Early 20th centuries miners could mine pockets of high grade gold ore that only had a few hundred or a few thousand tons of high grade gold ore. Some of the early miners found extremely high grade surface precious metals ore that had 10 to 1,000 ounces of precious metals per ton, with dropping down to one-tenth ounce of gold per ton after mining fifty to a couple of hundred into the ore body. This is called "secondary enrichment" , where the precious and base metals are weathering with eroding back into the ore deposit, instead of weathering with eroding away from the ore deposit as the weathering erosion caries off the surrounding ore deposit's country rock strata (gang rock).
@@michaelfercik3691 ChatGPT AI disagrees with you.
High-grade gold ore is typically defined by its gold content, measured in grams per tonne (g/t) or ounces per ton (oz/t). Today, ore with gold content of:
10 grams per tonne (g/t) or higher is often considered high-grade.
0.3 ounces per ton (oz/t) or higher is also viewed as high-grade in the industry.
However, what constitutes high-grade can vary based on several factors including the location of the mine, current market conditions, and the cost of extraction. In some regions or for certain types of deposits, ore with gold content as low as 5 g/t might be considered high-grade if the economic conditions support profitable extraction.
@michaelfercik34691 4oz a ton i know of in nevada. 2 adits. 500ft tunnel
Lee:
There is NO evidence Waltz ever worked at the Vulture Mine. In fact, Joe Porterie, who was the chief assayer for the Vulture and the Goldfield mines. And assayed the gold from under the Dutchman’s bed, unequivocally declared there was no comparison.
Excellent presentation
How come this has never been in the local news if it's been found? I've lived in the Phoenix area since 1998 and have heard nothing but crickets, coyotes, bobcats, etc. I would think the local media, if not the national media would have picked up on a story this huge.
Remember, gold was outlawed to own from 1934 to 1974 so they never told they found it.
A relative told about it after all of them had died.
I would never tell if I found it, bad decision to tell.
The Dutchman gold is in a wagon on Indian land at Red Mountain. You will be shot if you hike out there.
Red Mountain you say?
Just run faster 🤣🤣
I've heard you'll get shot many times.. but gold just sitting in a wagon.. sounds far fetched to say the least
I love all your videos
WOW! How the site has changed, the title score is different and what's with the constant music in the background? No need for that, makes it hard to hear whats being said. I love Mysteries of The Superstition Mountains but ditch the music.
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You are great keep well the roads in Heaven are paved with Gold. Hope to meet you some day.
The Dutchman's "Lost Mine" was found in the 1860's, and called The Vulture Mine.
Joe Porterie was the official assayer for the Vulture mine. Joe also assayed the gold that came from under the Dutchman’s bed when it was sold. Mr Porterie stated there was no comparison between the two and the Dutchman’s gold was not from any of the many mines Porterie assayed
what a great story somewhere i heard someone say its not about the destination its the journey
in my mind that phrase fits the dutchman legend perfectly the lore around the mine the clues the people etc. thats the journey the destination is finding the cache or the mine that the cache came from is the destination obvioulsly the journey is more interesting than the destination
If they found 2 out of the 3 stashes of gold, my gut feeling says there are 100 other locations still to be found in these Gold bearing hills and Aztec/Conquistador antiquities, mineral hiding places.
Now the rest of the story
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Love the story good video. However the background music is super annoying
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Someone will be still looking for that gold when hell freezes over...
Definitely looks more like Irishman gold, Yup! Hahaha 😆
Thank you Mr. Larry! GOD Bless You Sir!
I think long,long ago they ran into things in the mountains and caves that scared the heck out of them. Just like love lock cave
Did any of the cashs have markers on the saguaro cactus say 15' in the air?
Good story,,,,,,
Next stop: ",Oak Island"? Campfire story😂...
Jon:
In all the clues I’ve ever seen finding the caches if you find the mine was never one of the clues.
Thanks for telling us where it’s at now where going to it
Jon:
I was talking about the dutchman’s caches because that’s what Bob Garman believed and I was telling HIS STORY.
Is the Mullins ditch the one thatruns from the east to Queen Valley? What is it's source? It used to run a fair amount of water. Anyone anything about the canyon east ot Queen Valley where a lot of blasting and grading was done to make a large, relatively flat area?
Directly east behind the dam is a major flood control basin carved out of a. Large natural flat area. This area is mostly dry as a bone but surface water seeps below ground and feeds an 18 to one foot pipe structure under the dam which runs constantly keeping the Mullins ditch full. During flooding the water can be diverted down Queen Creek retaining some down the ditch.
Queen Creeks source it from about 5 miles above Superior Az and a score of large washes between Superior and the dam.
I have seen it in flood and it can be terrifying when running full blast.
@@larryhedrick254 thank you sir! Years ago I drove down behind the dam. I was told by locals that is was a place they would camp and picnic under the large trees. Do you know anything about Col. Rogers of Rogers canyon, mt., trough, trail etc.? All I could find was that he had mines and a mill in the east Superstitions. TIA!
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My grandfather bought stock in dutchman.
Interesting
I enjoy the dramatic music it adds depth to the narrative.
I still have my red book , like page six , Thar is gold in them thar mountains , it is luring and luring me on , It isn`t the gold I am after so much , as the pleasure of seeking gold . Robert L. Garman , page 6
The phrase 'There's gold in them thar hills' comes from Mark Twain's 1892 novel The American Claimant.
Garman is signing for the whole page but is quoting Mark Twain.
Well the gold was real and it's there some where but it's a big area to search I always wondered if many of the assay offices there were correct cuz they had said it did not match any of the other gold samples from other mines in the area at that time so it's real and so is this story but remember that no amount of gold is worth your life the mountain there are a sacred spot for the Indians and you should not disturb this area many lose there lives for this reason
Hello Larry this is little cuz Hedrick
I found a quartz rock that looked like that when I was a kid and was told it was fools gold
Dreaming off a fantasy that’s never been confirmed.its just a story to tell around the campfire.
Cave Creek, not Apache Junction.
👍I knew it all along 🤪😂
I be more interested on the 24 guns than i would be the lost mine