Queen Mary was tough as hell and made history. Queen Elizabeth was the same way. Both did dirt,both were damaged by their crazy ass daddy and both made their way in a world that didnt want either as Queen. I like both sisters.
Alexis Vane I agree but your missing a few key details. Mary killed 200 people in her 5 year reign while continuously imprisoning her sister constantly while Elizabeth made England the richest monarchy(her reign is still the peak of England’s wealth) and inspired many artists and painters such as Shakespeare in her 46 year reign. Both used the same methods, but one had less luck than the other.
@@DramaQueenBree Are you talking about total killed or on an annual basis? Mary ruled for 4 years while Elizabeth for 44 years and Henry for 36 years. Quite a difference. However, had Mary produced an heir, the world would have been different because that heir, especially if male would have been King of both England and Spain, so no need for the warfare between them.
Jane Felix I am talking about total people killed clearly. Henry VIII and Elizabeth each killed more people during each of their reigns that Mary did during hers. And yes I am aware had Mary had a child with Philip that the number of people killed would have risen because Elizabeth never would have inherited the throne and England would have become a catholic nation once more.
I think that is the one thing everyone will agree on Henry was a terrible dad. The psychological trauma that both those girls suffered is pretty obvious. Mary never trusted anyone around her and became suspicious and vindictive. Not to mention her health suffered because of it. Elizabeth vowed never to get married because of her father and the examples he set. With examples like that it would be enough to put anyone off.
Yes, their father abandoned them and restored her to the line of succession and took away their titles and Elizabeth was titled a bastard by her father. Mary father also kept Mary away from her family and didn't let her to see her mother. But her father was only one of the reasons why Queen Elizabeth didn't marry. Also because she witnessed her stepmothers die from giving birth and Thomas Seymour sexually assaulted her.
@@luna8327 Anne was considered as a witch who bewitched Henry and made him divorce KoA and break with Vatican and Mary burned protestants in England, where under her brother's reign the reformation went further and protestants gained in numbers. During her 5 year reign she almost 300 people burned and her protestant opponents gave her the nickname "Bloody Mary".
People hated Mary because of the rumors given by the Protestants Yes she killed 270 people but his fathers killed more than 2000 and no one called him Bloody Henry. She is a misunderstood character. I don’t think she was a bad queen.
Fun fact: Elizabeth’s successor (Mary Queen if Scots son) James the first had Elizabeth and Mary Tudor buried together with the words partners in life and death (or something like that) written on it
The sisters actually got on well till the whole Elozabeth and Thomas Seymour saga. Despite hating her and under pressure to kill her, Mary chose to keep Elizabeth alive.
Well he shouldn’t have done that Mary wanted to be buried with her mother but they burned her with her sister making it seem like Elizabeth was better and Mary was a side character
They're not so different. They loved England equally. They battled with equal courage to keep their Beloved safe. Just because they celebrated their love of God differently, this isn't as large a difference, especially when the CofE was still new. 2 sides of the same coin to me. Mary quite possibly wouldn't have married that loser if she felt secure in England remaining a Catholic nation when her time of trial and strife was over. She needed an heir, which was, unfortunately, wasn't God's will. If Henry had married her off many years sooner, she would've had a far better chance of motherhood.
Si Maria se hubiese casado joven hubiese tenido desendencia, el tirano de su padre hubiese tenido nietos e Inglaterra no hubiese sufrido todo por lo que paso, incluso podria heredar el nieto la corona, directamente, y deseredar almarido de Maria y a ella
If only Henry VIII had been a better father or at least more merciful to both Mary and her mother Catherine of Aragon than she might not have become so spiteful even Elizabeth I was no exception.
@NicolaWriter You're right, she absolutely paved the way for Elizabeth. I read in Mary Tudor, Princess Bastard Queen that it's likely she wasn't aware of how bad the burnings had gotten and her role in them not as big as stereotype would make people believe. Her rule interests me far more than Elizabeths because, like you said, E's is so overly raved about. It's sadly so easy for people to accept stereotypes that they miss out on the real complexities of Mary, she was one fascinating figure.
i like Elizabeth more but i also feel bad for Mary and the way she was treated by people and her father but they both proved that a queen can be just as good of a ruler as a king whether married or not catholic or christian to me i think it was mess up that they killed ppl over religion when in the end they all worshiped the same God
Elizabeth was a good queen, but Mary was a good person. She is probably the strongest woman I've ever heard about. Mary suffered so much, but didn't became cruel or evel. She was a kind person, devoted to church and mother. Mary wasn't as bad as she's depicted by protestants. For me she is some kind of hero. She managed to become England's first queen, though it was practically impossible for her. Mary was a true daughter of queen Catherine. I really admire her!
@@CoRLex-jh5vx And Elizabeth killed over 4,000 Catholics, and had Monks disemboweled. Not to mention she had her own cousin, Queen Mary of Scotland beheaded out of her own jealousies'... She was far worse a murderer then Mary... Not to mention her thievery of the Irish Catholics property...
Mary Tutor had everything against her. Her mother being tossed aside, and Anne Bolyn wanting to have both Mary and Catherine murdered, she almost didn't make it. Of course she wasn't perfect, but Elizabeth killing 4,000 Catholics, was far worse then Mary's at 280...
@@Deborahtunes You have to consider Elizabeth reigned for far more time than Mary. 4000 people in forty years of reign is different from 300 in about two or three years of reign. And Elizabeth didn't execute Mary Stuart out of jealousy, forgive me, but that's so stupid and ignorant of you to say. Mary was most likely plotting to overthrow her, if not, she was incriminated, since there was some evidence found in some letters. Mary Tudor did the same with Jane Grey, who wasn't even a grown woman making her own choices, like Mary Stuart, but a young girl used as a pawn by her family and other protestants.
@@fyedoravna7569 Nope. 18th-century copy of KoA's portrait doesn't show her hair, she wears an English hood. On a portrait by Juan de Flanders (it is though to be KoA) she has strawberry blonde hair. Mary also has light hair on her portraits (e.g. by Lucas Horenbout)
I think that video is amazing because it really shows that Mary and Elizabeth were close at one point but as time went on they grew apart. Love the Tudors!!!! (I can’t believe my comment has gotten 109 likes so far!)
And although they were good friends I'd have to side with Mary being my favourite Princess of Wales and Queen of England, mostly because she went through so much than Elizabeth did in her prime. Furthermore I think that Henry VIII favoured Edward and Elizabeth more because they were younger.
Initially, she did, until the period of persecutions. The Wyatt Rebellion of 1554 proved to be a turning point, as she felt betrayed after having showed such leniency toward those who sought to prevent her from ruling. Mind you, I am hardly making any excuses for the persecutions that took place during her reign. But we also have to remember that these were absolute monarchs, and the deaths that occurred under Henry VIII and Elizabeth I were far greater in number and often in brutality.
I agree with some of the things you said, except for the "absolute monarchs". They still didn't have all the power. The first absolute monarch in European Modern Age was Louis XIV of France. Other monarchs such as these date back then to the Roman Empire and Ancient Egypt and some continue to exist in islamic countries.
I feel so bad for Queen Katherine and young Princess Mary, that I cant help but dislike Anne even if history make her seen worst, I think she got popular just because Natalie's portrait of her.
@ligreekguy I don't apologize for Elizabeth. she did what she had to do as the reigning queen of a country going through all the turbulence it had. she was a very shrewd and capable person and shown it multiple times and like all wise people, she realized that her view on matters might not suffice and surrounded herself with a small group of advisers. oh they might have each had an agenda, but at the end of the day she was the queen who decided what course to do. make no mistake about that.
@NicolaWriter Fantastic to see someone view Mary AND Elizabeth fairly and not 100% bashing one and praising the other. Both were amazing women, strong in their own ways as well as flawed in their own ways.
Henry didn't beheaded Mary's mother, they only divorced... but it's true that Henry abandoned Catherine =( And for Elizabeth, yes, Henry beheaded her mother but Elizabeth was only two years old, so probably she didn't remember Anne. The two princesses suffered a lot. Poor girls, they had a hard life because of their cruel father =(
She kind of deserved being yelled at, at the very least. Elizabeth was pretty snide and ungrateful towards Mary. I respect your opinions on Elizabeth, since I like her too and am acquainted with you -- but I do see how Elizabeth wasn't exactly the most loyal of sisters. Mary was willing to forgive and forget, yet Elizabeth kept rubbing salt in Mary's wounds even if she didn't directly oppose her half-sister.
This still does not take away from the over 4,000 Catholics (over half of them innocent Irish peasants, another 200 of them being Benedictine and Carthusian monks who were slowly disemboweled, a death far slower and more painful than burning at the stake) under Elizabeth I. Never have I condoned the actions of Mary I (under whom 300 died), but I also refuse to tolerate the glorification of Elizabeth.
I agree... All of these "documentaries" talk about the 280 people Mary killed. But none of them mention the 4,000 people Elizabeth had murdered... Not to mention her own cousin, Queen Mary of Scotland she had beheaded, because of her own jealousies'. They paint Elizabeth as a saint, and Mary as a she-devil. It's how things were in that time. But to be fair, Elizabeth was far worse a murderer & thief, then her sister Mary...
i feel so bad for mary tudor as she was demonized by history. though her crimes of killing all those people just for having different beliefs, her back story is quite tragic. (all who say nay to this notion can kill me because i happen to have a soft spot for villains sometimes, if they have good backstories)
Mary did not behead Jane first time the rebellion was,however when Janes family tryed to stage a rebellion agen Mary had to do it to protect herself,Jane Gray might bge a puppet only but in thise times as Jane was involved inj this she was a treath
@ligreekguy Elizabeth had Mary queen of the scots...she was a bigger threat to Elizabeth than Jane would have ever been to Mary. she was in direct line of power and the people of England never rejected her. and yet she was kept alive for 19 years, and then only when conclusive proof was shown that she was directly involved in these plots. Jane was beheaded because she was used as a figurehead not because she did anything.
Jane died of an infection after the birth of Edward. Puerperal fever, it's called. Also, Edward wasn't cut from the womb, like most stories say. I do, however, think that Henry as well as condemned Katherine of Aragon to death when he ripped his love from her. They were so devout in their love, too, in the early years. I don't like how she's always portrayed as his senior by like twenty years though, when it was only five. /end ramble xD
Joanne Whalley is so beautiful..she was an awesome Mary from the Virgin Queen :). But no one tops Daphne Slater in the 1970's "Elizabeth" I swear to God that woman looks like she actually stepped out a tudor painting.
Mary was strong incredibly so the odds of her becoming queen was stacked against her until henry put her in the line of succession. As far as her not being crime or evils I would have to disagree she became incredibly cruel butter and vindictive look she killed about 300 people but just look at Thomas Cranmer that was done out of spite
@Darthbelal Hey, sorry typo, 400 an estimated four hundred, you should read the "elizabeth's irish wars" or the Desmond rebellions. I know her younger brother edward also had a kill count of an estimated 300, like around 280 something, The oldest sister, mary. was like 276 or 7. Anyway, thats what i can come up with at the top of my head. Though, these are burnings, cuz she also set irish crops and w/e to burn to cause them to starve and submit. Harsh times indeed.
@NicolaWriter Mary was totally bad ass, especially how she raised her own army to win her throne! I loved reading about that. Very, very good point too, if she was so tyrannical and evil she would have executed Elizabeth in a snap. She wasn't fond of Elizabeth by any means, she was fiercely suspicious of her after the Wyatt Rebellion, but after some guidance she not only released her from house arrest, but invited her back to court. Much more more merciful than E was to Mary Queen of Scots.
Really?! Not personal?! So Boleyn giving certain people orders to slap her around when she called herself (rightfully so) the Princess and to call her out her name "the cursed bastard" wasn't personal?! Sorry but it doesn't get more personal than that.
@gapeachjessica It would be hard to argue against her bitterness! If she hadn't been so hardcore Catholic, she might have attempted suicide! Joanne did capture Mary's bitterness and the scene where she dies while in "childbirth" is superbly done. Joanne was about 43 when she played that part, which was actually older than Mary was when she became queen (38 or so) Everyone in Elizabeth R looks exactly like their character- its actually kind of scary. If Glenda's eyes had been darker..oooh.
@bloodmemories1234 clips from a tv mini-series called The Virgin Queen were taken as well. That looks to be the only other show that clips were taken from.
@ligreekguy no problem with good debate ^^ about her sibling's relationship, I'm fully aware that it was not her fault. it was not the children's fault either though. she had a 17 year difference with the elder of the two and was raised in a different manner/religion. take also into account that they were all step siblings and the relationships their mothers had (+ that she was the only one big enough to remember..) and you see how their relationship was bound to be strained. (more below)
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@telamon2011 Anne's plots against Catherine and Mary were political not personal. Henry however had a choice and nobody could make that man do anything. Anything he did was self serving regarldless of whose life he ruined. When Catherine was dying he could have easily have sent Mary to her side yet he did not. Even when Anne was beheaded he still chose to treat Mary and Elizabeth as annoyances rather than daughters.
to be fair with their father king Henry VIII, I think the estimated 54,000 to 72,000 people executed is an exaggeration. The number was too much for the people to tolerate. If the figure is reliable, it probably included those people who have died in warfare during Henry's reign but definitely not by executions alone.
I totally agree with you that none of them deserve to get off without reproach. Where are your sources that Mary permitted Protestant services? I've never come across that once in any of the books I've read.
@NicolaWriter Just a point of clarification: They didn't have differing religions. All the Tudors were Christian. After Henry VIII some would continue to identify as Catholic, others as Protestant. Still, all Christian.
@ligreekguy he might have had no official power, but he had her under control. she made that clear in a lot of instances. executing jane grey was for him, and the wars were for him too, she might have hated the french but she would not have warred them if he didn't want to. and while she took all those Spanish titles, she didn't do anything with them, at least i haven't heard of anything (honestly didn't even know that fact.) fact is if she had her way, he would have been king regent...
@spartacus3ful not saying they tried or even intended to kill Elizabeth, Mary was more merciful to her than Elizabeth was to Mary Queen of Scots, but the young Elizabeth in Mary's reign would have been afraid of that sort of quick and easy assassination.
Whats with all this negative talk about Anne Boleyn? It's not like she had much choice in the matter despite what you may have seen on TV. 1) Henry broke off her engagement to Lord Percy 2) Stalked her even when she tried to escape to Hever 3) She held him off the best she could knowing that he could make or break her families fortunes to keep her virtue. What women back than seriously thinks "Hey lets see if I can make the King divorce his wife and make me queen". Think about it.
You are not seriously going by the looks of theses actresses in these movies and tv shows right? Also the portraits that were painted are not true to the real person either. We will never know what they truly looked like. Also a woman’s beauty came from here dowry in those days. I’m Mary’s case she was still beautiful for Tudor standards it was her attitude and the way that she ruled that was ugly.
@@brandyh9098 Elizabeth 1 was a smallpox survivor but it left her skin horribly scarred. It was common when the variola virus was naturally circulating for people who contracted and survived smallpox to wind up blind and/or disfigured. The lead makeup of the day which the Queen wore extensively certainly didn't do anyone's health or skin any favors but people didn't really know and understand how toxic things like lead and mercury are back then.
@spartacus3ful I still say she did so because she thought it was poisoned. Protestants see communion as sacred too, but to Elizabeth, being a Queens only heir so far and knowing that all the people involved in that Queen's personal counsel see you as the ruining of all they worked hard to establish, it's easy to assume that their poisoning you would be an easy solution to securing their plans for the kingdom.
@ligreekguy the Catholics that died in Elizabeth's reign are overlooked because they didn't just die for their beliefs, but because they committed treason and revolted against her. as such they were not just persecuted for their religion but punished for their crime. not the case for Mary which is why people still shudder at it. burning a pregnant lady while she was giving birth just because of her beliefs being different is horrifying. Henry, ah what to say, that guy got away with murder
I don't think they were the opposite of their mothers. On the contrary, they seem to have been exactly like them. Mary was stubborn, staunchly catholic and generous to the poor like Katherine of Aragon. Elizabeth was feisty, flirtatious and devious just like Anne Boleyn. As a matter of fact, Mary increasingly disliked and mistrusted Elizabeth as she grew older, because she reminded her so much of her mother.
Elizabeth probably didn't remember much about Anne, but don't you think that personality traits can be hereditary? And despite the fact that Elizabeth lost her mother so early, she seems to have cherished her memory, because she would later wear a necklace with the letter "A" which had once belonged to Anne.
@ligreekguy first off, you listed three. let me add Cecil Jr. and sr. to the bunch. It's normal for her to do what they say, even if its against her wishes and especially if they all agree on it...those guys were all her advisers. that was their job. even then though, the final say was hers. she listened when she truly believed their was no other solution. Mary made it clear she didn't want Jane executed, she only did in the end because Charles refused to send his son over until she did.
Queen Mary was tough as hell and made history. Queen Elizabeth was the same way. Both did dirt,both were damaged by their crazy ass daddy and both made their way in a world that didnt want either as Queen. I like both sisters.
That's the best comment I have readin this section.... Agreed !!!!
Alexis Vane I agree but your missing a few key details. Mary killed 200 people in her 5 year reign while continuously imprisoning her sister constantly while Elizabeth made England the richest monarchy(her reign is still the peak of England’s wealth) and inspired many artists and painters such as Shakespeare in her 46 year reign. Both used the same methods, but one had less luck than the other.
Juanita Mathis While yes that’s True about Elizabeth I don’t think you realize both Henry and Elizabeth killed way more people that Mary ever did.
@@DramaQueenBree Are you talking about total killed or on an annual basis? Mary ruled for 4 years while Elizabeth for 44 years and Henry for 36 years. Quite a difference. However, had Mary produced an heir, the world would have been different because that heir, especially if male would have been King of both England and Spain, so no need for the warfare between them.
Jane Felix I am talking about total people killed clearly. Henry VIII and Elizabeth each killed more people during each of their reigns that Mary did during hers. And yes I am aware had Mary had a child with Philip that the number of people killed would have risen because Elizabeth never would have inherited the throne and England would have become a catholic nation once more.
I think that is the one thing everyone will agree on Henry was a terrible dad. The psychological trauma that both those girls suffered is pretty obvious. Mary never trusted anyone around her and became suspicious and vindictive. Not to mention her health suffered because of it. Elizabeth vowed never to get married because of her father and the examples he set. With examples like that it would be enough to put anyone off.
Yes, their father abandoned them and restored her to the line of succession and took away their titles and Elizabeth was titled a bastard by her father. Mary father also kept Mary away from her family and didn't let her to see her mother. But her father was only one of the reasons why Queen Elizabeth didn't marry. Also because she witnessed her stepmothers die from giving birth and Thomas Seymour sexually assaulted her.
Well said...
you have to love the irony of Elizabeth and Mary people love
People Love Kathrine but Hated Mary
People Hated Anne but loved Elizabeth
Why did they hate Anne and Mary ?
@@luna8327 I love Mary too
@@luna8327 Anne was considered as a witch who bewitched Henry and made him divorce KoA and break with Vatican and Mary burned protestants in England, where under her brother's reign the reformation went further and protestants gained in numbers. During her 5 year reign she almost 300 people burned and her protestant opponents gave her the nickname "Bloody Mary".
@@alanadayana568 me too
People hated Mary because of the rumors given by the Protestants
Yes she killed 270 people but his fathers killed more than 2000 and no one called him Bloody Henry.
She is a misunderstood character. I don’t think she was a bad queen.
Fun fact: Elizabeth’s successor (Mary Queen if Scots son) James the first had Elizabeth and Mary Tudor buried together with the words partners in life and death (or something like that) written on it
Sisters in life and death
Tabatha Swinburne how actually thoughtful.
It was nice for James Stuart to do that to his Aunts.
The sisters actually got on well till the whole Elozabeth and Thomas Seymour saga. Despite hating her and under pressure to kill her, Mary chose to keep Elizabeth alive.
Well he shouldn’t have done that Mary wanted to be buried with her mother but they burned her with her sister making it seem like Elizabeth was better and Mary was a side character
Poor, Sweet Mary....
This video never gets old...absolutely amazing tribute to two very different but equally fascinating women.
They're not so different. They loved England equally. They battled with equal courage to keep their Beloved safe. Just because they celebrated their love of God differently, this isn't as large a difference, especially when the CofE was still new.
2 sides of the same coin to me. Mary quite possibly wouldn't have married that loser if she felt secure in England remaining a Catholic nation when her time of trial and strife was over. She needed an heir, which was, unfortunately, wasn't God's will. If Henry had married her off many years sooner, she would've had a far better chance of motherhood.
Si Maria se hubiese casado joven hubiese tenido desendencia, el tirano de su padre hubiese tenido nietos e Inglaterra no hubiese sufrido todo por lo que paso, incluso podria heredar el nieto la corona, directamente, y deseredar almarido de Maria y a ella
If only Henry VIII had been a better father or at least more merciful to both Mary and her mother Catherine of Aragon than she might not have become so spiteful even Elizabeth I was no exception.
It's sad too, considering they were actually quite close during Elizabeth's youth.
Beautiful tribute to two sisters and Queens. :)
A beautiful tribute to 2 incredible queens
@NicolaWriter You're right, she absolutely paved the way for Elizabeth. I read in Mary Tudor, Princess Bastard Queen that it's likely she wasn't aware of how bad the burnings had gotten and her role in them not as big as stereotype would make people believe. Her rule interests me far more than Elizabeths because, like you said, E's is so overly raved about. It's sadly so easy for people to accept stereotypes that they miss out on the real complexities of Mary, she was one fascinating figure.
i like Elizabeth more but i also feel bad for Mary and the way she was treated by people and her father but they both proved that a queen can be just as good of a ruler as a king whether married or not catholic or christian to me i think it was mess up that they killed ppl over religion when in the end they all worshiped the same God
What is a greater sadness, is the hate and killing, continues TODAY!!
Elizabeth was a good queen, but Mary was a good person. She is probably the strongest woman I've ever heard about. Mary suffered so much, but didn't became cruel or evel. She was a kind person, devoted to church and mother. Mary wasn't as bad as she's depicted by protestants. For me she is some kind of hero. She managed to become England's first queen, though it was practically impossible for her. Mary was a true daughter of queen Catherine. I really admire her!
SHE BURNT PROTESTANTS ALIVE. TONS OF THEM.
@@CoRLex-jh5vx And Elizabeth killed over 4,000 Catholics, and had Monks disemboweled. Not to mention she had her own cousin, Queen Mary of Scotland beheaded out of her own jealousies'... She was far worse a murderer then Mary... Not to mention her thievery of the Irish Catholics property...
Mary Tutor had everything against her. Her mother being tossed aside, and Anne Bolyn wanting to have both Mary and Catherine murdered, she almost didn't make it. Of course she wasn't perfect, but Elizabeth killing 4,000 Catholics, was far worse then Mary's at 280...
@@Deborahtunes You have to consider Elizabeth reigned for far more time than Mary. 4000 people in forty years of reign is different from 300 in about two or three years of reign. And Elizabeth didn't execute Mary Stuart out of jealousy, forgive me, but that's so stupid and ignorant of you to say. Mary was most likely plotting to overthrow her, if not, she was incriminated, since there was some evidence found in some letters. Mary Tudor did the same with Jane Grey, who wasn't even a grown woman making her own choices, like Mary Stuart, but a young girl used as a pawn by her family and other protestants.
They all forget that Mary I was a redhead with light eyes.
Ugh that always drives me nuts too! Catherine of Aragon was redhead too, they always seem to think Spanish has to equal dark hair/dark eyes.
clare5 one they forget thst most of these people were red or alburn
Um,Their potraits are black haired
@@fyedoravna7569 Nope. 18th-century copy of KoA's portrait doesn't show her hair, she wears an English hood. On a portrait by Juan de Flanders (it is though to be KoA) she has strawberry blonde hair. Mary also has light hair on her portraits (e.g. by Lucas Horenbout)
Ecesu Gök actually yes Mary had lighter hair as a child but her hair was darker as she was older.
Great tribute to both Mary & Elizabeth!!
I think that video is amazing because it really shows that Mary and Elizabeth were close at one point but as time went on they grew apart. Love the Tudors!!!! (I can’t believe my comment has gotten 109 likes so far!)
Mary in the start of her reign really was like her mother. I can’t condone her actions but I at least understand why and how Mary got there
And although they were good friends I'd have to side with Mary being my favourite Princess of Wales and Queen of England, mostly because she went through so much than Elizabeth did in her prime. Furthermore I think that Henry VIII favoured Edward and Elizabeth more because they were younger.
Long Live Queen Elizabeth!!
a fitting tribute for two whom so much conspired and succeedd in tearing family apart in the ends they both lost
Long Live Queen Mary, daughter of the one true Queen!
Initially, she did, until the period of persecutions. The Wyatt Rebellion of 1554 proved to be a turning point, as she felt betrayed after having showed such leniency toward those who sought to prevent her from ruling. Mind you, I am hardly making any excuses for the persecutions that took place during her reign. But we also have to remember that these were absolute monarchs, and the deaths that occurred under Henry VIII and Elizabeth I were far greater in number and often in brutality.
I agree with some of the things you said, except for the "absolute monarchs". They still didn't have all the power. The first absolute monarch in European Modern Age was Louis XIV of France. Other monarchs such as these date back then to the Roman Empire and Ancient Egypt and some continue to exist in islamic countries.
I love what you did at the end with the portraits
I feel so bad for Queen Katherine and young Princess Mary, that I cant help but dislike Anne even if history make her seen worst, I think she got popular just because Natalie's portrait of her.
@@helend7542 I think she was referring to Natalie Dormer's performance shes the one shown throughout this video.
@ligreekguy
I don't apologize for Elizabeth. she did what she had to do as the reigning queen of a country going through all the turbulence it had. she was a very shrewd and capable person and shown it multiple times and like all wise people, she realized that her view on matters might not suffice and surrounded herself with a small group of advisers. oh they might have each had an agenda, but at the end of the day she was the queen who decided what course to do. make no mistake about that.
i love mary tudor....
I totally agree! Both were fascinating women in history
Hail Queen Mary!
beautiful music.... love it.. great work
If I were treated the way Mary was treated I'd do worse. I'd plot against my tyrannical father and throw him out from the world.
Awesome!!! Love the beginning - with them talking at eachother!
@NicolaWriter Fantastic to see someone view Mary AND Elizabeth fairly and not 100% bashing one and praising the other. Both were amazing women, strong in their own ways as well as flawed in their own ways.
Fantastic video i loved it, great editing and love the music ... well done 5* favs and shared
Long Live Queen Elizabeth I!!! and God have mercy on Mary
Omg its amazing
I love it
I hate seeing Mary cry, but I DO love when she is yelling at Elizabeth later in the video.
But why?
Great job. I really like the music
Henry didn't beheaded Mary's mother, they only divorced... but it's true that Henry abandoned Catherine =(
And for Elizabeth, yes, Henry beheaded her mother but Elizabeth was only two years old, so probably she didn't remember Anne.
The two princesses suffered a lot. Poor girls, they had a hard life because of their cruel father =(
I feel a great deal of symmpathy for her. All the abuse and pain she suffered. It's no wonder she turned out the way she did.
She kind of deserved being yelled at, at the very least. Elizabeth was pretty snide and ungrateful towards Mary. I respect your opinions on Elizabeth, since I like her too and am acquainted with you -- but I do see how Elizabeth wasn't exactly the most loyal of sisters. Mary was willing to forgive and forget, yet Elizabeth kept rubbing salt in Mary's wounds even if she didn't directly oppose her half-sister.
This still does not take away from the over 4,000 Catholics (over half of them innocent Irish peasants, another 200 of them being Benedictine and Carthusian monks who were slowly disemboweled, a death far slower and more painful than burning at the stake) under Elizabeth I. Never have I condoned the actions of Mary I (under whom 300 died), but I also refuse to tolerate the glorification of Elizabeth.
I agree... All of these "documentaries" talk about the 280 people Mary killed. But none of them mention the 4,000 people Elizabeth had murdered... Not to mention her own cousin, Queen Mary of Scotland she had beheaded, because of her own jealousies'. They paint Elizabeth as a saint, and Mary as a she-devil. It's how things were in that time. But to be fair, Elizabeth was far worse a murderer & thief, then her sister Mary...
But those catholics rebelled against her though so..
i feel so bad for mary tudor as she was demonized by history. though her crimes of killing all those people just for having different beliefs, her back story is quite tragic. (all who say nay to this notion can kill me because i happen to have a soft spot for villains sometimes, if they have good backstories)
Mary did not behead Jane first time the rebellion was,however when Janes family tryed to stage a rebellion agen Mary had to do it to protect herself,Jane Gray might bge a puppet only but in thise times as Jane was involved inj this she was a treath
Buen trabajo Nuria! Me gusta mucho este video! 💓Muy emotivo🦊✨
One word: marvelous!
bonito video Nuria!
I love Mary so much
Love Anne Boleyn Always in my and Elizabeth
Thank you so much!
sarah bolger is truly amazing ! the perfect woman !
Beautiful!
@ligreekguy
Elizabeth had Mary queen of the scots...she was a bigger threat to Elizabeth than Jane would have ever been to Mary. she was in direct line of power and the people of England never rejected her. and yet she was kept alive for 19 years, and then only when conclusive proof was shown that she was directly involved in these plots. Jane was beheaded because she was used as a figurehead not because she did anything.
nicely done!
Jane died of an infection after the birth of Edward. Puerperal fever, it's called. Also, Edward wasn't cut from the womb, like most stories say.
I do, however, think that Henry as well as condemned Katherine of Aragon to death when he ripped his love from her. They were so devout in their love, too, in the early years. I don't like how she's always portrayed as his senior by like twenty years though, when it was only five.
/end ramble xD
Joanne Whalley is so beautiful..she was an awesome Mary from the Virgin Queen :). But no one tops Daphne Slater in the 1970's "Elizabeth" I swear to God that woman looks like she actually stepped out a tudor painting.
I wish Mary and Elizabeth got a long with each other even though Elizabeth’s mother replaced Mary mother as Queen
It's called Selisona Pi by E.S. Posthumus :)
Mary was strong incredibly so the odds of her becoming queen was stacked against her until henry put her in the line of succession. As far as her not being crime or evils I would have to disagree she became incredibly cruel butter and vindictive look she killed about 300 people but just look at Thomas Cranmer that was done out of spite
I love it! 5 stars
@Darthbelal Hey, sorry typo, 400 an estimated four hundred, you should read the "elizabeth's irish wars" or the Desmond rebellions. I know her younger brother edward also had a kill count of an estimated 300, like around 280 something, The oldest sister, mary. was like 276 or 7. Anyway, thats what i can come up with at the top of my head. Though, these are burnings, cuz she also set irish crops and w/e to burn to cause them to starve and submit. Harsh times indeed.
@NicolaWriter Mary was totally bad ass, especially how she raised her own army to win her throne! I loved reading about that. Very, very good point too, if she was so tyrannical and evil she would have executed Elizabeth in a snap. She wasn't fond of Elizabeth by any means, she was fiercely suspicious of her after the Wyatt Rebellion, but after some guidance she not only released her from house arrest, but invited her back to court. Much more more merciful than E was to Mary Queen of Scots.
Really?! Not personal?! So Boleyn giving certain people orders to slap her around when she called herself (rightfully so) the Princess and to call her out her name "the cursed bastard" wasn't personal?! Sorry but it doesn't get more personal than that.
I love it!
Thats was very good
I LOVE MARY TUDOR. It was sickening the way they treated her in court. This woman was truly a Saint. Long live the true Queen Of England.
Elizabeth The queen of origin to England
Poor Queen Anne Boleyn and Queen Elizabeth I ❤️
Thank's a lot :)
great job i love the tudors show but what is th other show
@gapeachjessica It would be hard to argue against her bitterness! If she hadn't been so hardcore Catholic, she might have attempted suicide!
Joanne did capture Mary's bitterness and the scene where she dies while in "childbirth" is superbly done. Joanne was about 43 when she played that part, which was actually older than Mary was when she became queen (38 or so)
Everyone in Elizabeth R looks exactly like their character- its actually kind of scary. If Glenda's eyes had been darker..oooh.
amazing:)
@bloodmemories1234 clips from a tv mini-series called The Virgin Queen were taken as well. That looks to be the only other show that clips were taken from.
That would have been insanely awesome !
@ligreekguy
no problem with good debate ^^
about her sibling's relationship, I'm fully aware that it was not her fault. it was not the children's fault either though. she had a 17 year difference with the elder of the two and was raised in a different manner/religion. take also into account that they were all step siblings and the relationships their mothers had (+ that she was the only one big enough to remember..) and you see how their relationship was bound to be strained. (more below)
What song is this? I love the music!
season 3 is already out in england and some other countrys i like the sound track on this youtube video rlly much its from tudors to nuria?
@princesseklauss the song is Selisona Pi by E.S. Posthumus. i agree it is a very beautiful song produced by a very beautiful band! hope you enjoy, e.s. posthumus is a very good band and very known for it`s classical, but epic sounding songs! :)
the song please ..its beautiful
wow this is amazing and i love the music what is the song called?
@telamon2011 Anne's plots against Catherine and Mary were political not personal. Henry however had a choice and nobody could make that man do anything. Anything he did was self serving regarldless of whose life he ruined. When Catherine was dying he could have easily have sent Mary to her side yet he did not. Even when Anne was beheaded he still chose to treat Mary and Elizabeth as annoyances rather than daughters.
to be fair with their father king Henry VIII, I think the estimated 54,000 to 72,000 people executed is an exaggeration. The number was too much for the people to tolerate. If the figure is reliable, it probably included those people who have died in warfare during Henry's reign but definitely not by executions alone.
I totally agree with you that none of them deserve to get off without reproach. Where are your sources that Mary permitted Protestant services? I've never come across that once in any of the books I've read.
What was the musical score used for this video?
Selisona by E.S. Posthumous. 🙂✨😊⭐️
Selisona Pi by E.S Pothumus
@NicolaWriter Just a point of clarification: They didn't have differing religions. All the Tudors were Christian. After Henry VIII some would continue to identify as Catholic, others as Protestant. Still, all Christian.
I love this video and music. Yet what is the name of this music?
@ligreekguy
he might have had no official power, but he had her under control. she made that clear in a lot of instances. executing jane grey was for him, and the wars were for him too, she might have hated the french but she would not have warred them if he didn't want to.
and while she took all those Spanish titles, she didn't do anything with them, at least i haven't heard of anything (honestly didn't even know that fact.)
fact is if she had her way, he would have been king regent...
I love the video but it would be great if you could list what movies/documentaries/series, the clips were from.
@spartacus3ful not saying they tried or even intended to kill Elizabeth, Mary was more merciful to her than Elizabeth was to Mary Queen of Scots, but the young Elizabeth in Mary's reign would have been afraid of that sort of quick and easy assassination.
Perfeito =Perfect !!!
It's Great!
What is the music called?
Whats with all this negative talk about Anne Boleyn? It's not like she had much choice in the matter despite what you may have seen on TV. 1) Henry broke off her engagement to Lord Percy 2) Stalked her even when she tried to escape to Hever 3) She held him off the best she could knowing that he could make or break her families fortunes to keep her virtue. What women back than seriously thinks "Hey lets see if I can make the King divorce his wife and make me queen". Think about it.
Queen Mary I, she was beautiful girl when she was young; however, she turned ugly when she grew up as woman
You are not seriously going by the looks of theses actresses in these movies and tv shows right? Also the portraits that were painted are not true to the real person either. We will never know what they truly looked like. Also a woman’s beauty came from here dowry in those days. I’m Mary’s case she was still beautiful for Tudor standards it was her attitude and the way that she ruled that was ugly.
But Elizabeth did painted her own skinned become ugly af
@@brandyh9098 Elizabeth 1 was a smallpox survivor but it left her skin horribly scarred. It was common when the variola virus was naturally circulating for people who contracted and survived smallpox to wind up blind and/or disfigured. The lead makeup of the day which the Queen wore extensively certainly didn't do anyone's health or skin any favors but people didn't really know and understand how toxic things like lead and mercury are back then.
Long live Queen Anne Boleyn and Queen Elizabeth the first of England!.
@spartacus3ful I still say she did so because she thought it was poisoned. Protestants see communion as sacred too, but to Elizabeth, being a Queens only heir so far and knowing that all the people involved in that Queen's personal counsel see you as the ruining of all they worked hard to establish, it's easy to assume that their poisoning you would be an easy solution to securing their plans for the kingdom.
What is the name of this song? Extremely amazing video!
@ligreekguy
the Catholics that died in Elizabeth's reign are overlooked because they didn't just die for their beliefs, but because they committed treason and revolted against her.
as such they were not just persecuted for their religion but punished for their crime. not the case for Mary which is why people still shudder at it. burning a pregnant lady while she was giving birth just because of her beliefs being different is horrifying.
Henry, ah what to say, that guy got away with murder
Amazing how Mary and Elizabeth were so the opposite of their very own mothers.
I don't think they were the opposite of their mothers. On the contrary, they seem to have been exactly like them. Mary was stubborn, staunchly catholic and generous to the poor like Katherine of Aragon. Elizabeth was feisty, flirtatious and devious just like Anne Boleyn. As a matter of fact, Mary increasingly disliked and mistrusted Elizabeth as she grew older, because she reminded her so much of her mother.
Elizabeth probably didn't remember much about Anne, but don't you think that personality traits can be hereditary? And despite the fact that Elizabeth lost her mother so early, she seems to have cherished her memory, because she would later wear a necklace with the letter "A" which had once belonged to Anne.
Lady Lilith Letter B
what is the name of the music? thanks :)
Darwin fan Thanks a lot :D
+Simona Arena Darude, sandstorm
great video. what's the name of the song you used?
I love this music too. Let us know the name?
@ligreekguy
first off, you listed three. let me add Cecil Jr. and sr. to the bunch. It's normal for her to do what they say, even if its against her wishes and especially if they all agree on it...those guys were all her advisers. that was their job. even then though, the final say was hers. she listened when she truly believed their was no other solution.
Mary made it clear she didn't want Jane executed, she only did in the end because Charles refused to send his son over until she did.