I Forced Myself to Collect the Most Boring Army
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ธ.ค. 2022
- In this video Jay shows off his most boring models in this collection! His Star Wars Legion Rebels. We have new videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday! We're streaming Monday-Friday starting at 9PM CST!! JOIN USSSS! Thanks for watching!
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I thought the most boring army would be genestealer cults, after all they do a lot of boring, mining and drilling.
No they are least favorite lol
You must have like 100 kids because that was the most dad joke of all time
best dad joke I’ve heard in years
Booo … I come to the internet to escape dad jokes, not join them!
How long did that take to come up with eh?
In terms of telling squads that look identical apart, I read a great tip on a historical wargamer's blog some years ago. He suggested that one unit could have puddles, the second long grass and the third bits of undergrowth. I revised it for ease of visibility and tend to use those little clumps of flowers you can buy these days. Of course, given your awesome Ewoks, that'd be another way of marking off the squads.
Can also rim the base of the models in different colors.
@@lazyvipurr4698 That's the obvious choice and it looks super amateurish.
Using Ewoks as basing garnish is a great idea. 😍
If you are bad at strategy, dont get leia, get specialist kit. It has Officer unit who is a cheaper and not as a complicated version of Leia, so you keep extra points for medic or engineer droid. They will keep your guys/vehicles alive longer
The thing I love about Star Wars Legion is how many references they pull from. The different styles of guns all have references from different sources
I love the mechanics of Legion. I hope Warhammer eventually goes to a unit-based turn system (like the tokens in Legion). I hate the way 40k does it now, I hate seeing someone come in for their first game, lose 3/4 of their army first turn by the try-hard competitive player, and never come back.
I know, that’s just how it works sometimes. But I think some tweaks to the system could balance a bit.
That’s why I prefer Kill Team
That happened to me 15 years ago and only now am I thinking of getting back into it.
That’s just baby raging, if you lose so much don’t give up and don’t just Never come back. You people don’t understand this clearly, if warhammer was token based it would scrap the APOCALYPSE feel that most people enjoy
Agree fully. Although, the biggest problem is with the first turn. One player activates his whole army, in the most target-rich environment possible. There could be easier fixes to the problem IMHO. E.g. before the 1st player starts turn 1, the other player can move once. Would give him a chance to get extra cover for key units.
I have ZERO clue about Warhammer (or tabletop games in general)... How can I imagine "losing" your army, like doesn't it get "reset" after every game, or do they physically destroyed?
Star wars legions really needs more spot light. It is such a good game!
Regarding command, try maybe Andor - he is pretty good. Also he works wonderfully with Luke's speeder, as he can shoot from there without moving.
Also, a little point on the weapons: you can split the attacks in a unit by weapon types, meaning that a unit with 3 different attacks could split to shoot at 3 different units, and spread the suppression. If you don't need a particular keyword in your pool (like blast or pierce etc), it can be quite efficient to just shoot at another target. That could help you in the next game!
Edit: forgot to say - very nice video!
Asmodee owns the Star Wars license but they gave it to Atomic Mass Games for some reason. I think Fantasy Flight did a better job handling the games but such is life.
Also remember that your rebel units have abilities that give them a lot of dodge tokens. That's how you're supposed to bolster their survivability.
Great video as always friend 🤗 will you be bringing any armies this year to ADEPTICON? I’m hoping to get a couple games in this year at the free tables . Keep up the great work 😁😁😁
Didn't Fantasy Flight transform into Atomic Mass Games? I thought it was basically just a name change
@@adamkrajco1920 Nope, FFG is still around, they're the board and card games division now, all the wargames were sent over to AMG
@@adamkrajco1920 everything is a sub division of Asmodee .....
everything is a sub division of Asmodee .....
i like how the video is called "I Forced Myself to Collect the Most Boring Army" but then talks with so much enthusiasm and excitement about that army. always happy to see that.
Echo Base Defenders is absolutely a great next purchase for you:
Leia, Chewbacca, R2D2, C3PO, 4x Rebel Veterans, 4x Mark2 Emplacement Trooper, 2x Tauntauns and a Laser Cannon pizza dish.
From there I’d also get the AA5 Speeder Bus (or two) and some Wookies. 😂
100% agree I got all 4 army’s wasn’t excited for rebels and turns out Sabine is my favorite unit to play she can clutch up so well “EXPLOSIONS!”
Legion Rebel main here, I play Leia all the time she is my favorite HQ but she is definitely a support character. But she combos well with Chewie who is definitely the throw at the bad guys solution you want!
Ah yes, the truly devious villain at the heart of the Star Wars universe: Shaun
Love my legion rebels! Get yourself some more mandalorians to go with Sabine… one box builds both Clan Wren and the generic mandalorians units!
Don't discount the humble speeder when the Toyota Hilux is the workhorse of modern day combat.
Not going to lie, painting the rebels has actually been the most fun out of all of them. This is literally my first time painting minis, and the storm troopers just got repetitive. the Rebels I could change stuff up, new colors, and make each one unique.
Man... almost nothing he said about the rules is correct.
Me and 4 friends play legion once a week. Love the painting schemes. If you want some really heavy hitting heroes get Chewbacca, Han and Leia those 3 synergize amazingly
those are excelently painted
they just suffer from one massive problem: they are no gungans
Rebel Troopers are amazing with Captain, Situational Awareness, and DLT upgrades. The AT-RTs are an amazing unit for their price though.
Bring the satellite dish cannon (FD Cannon I think) and some T-47. Tell Sean to have fun with the monster T-47s are and good luck getting sniped by the 1000-channel intergalactic TV station satellite dish lol
I'd love if Starwars legion came out with a Hutt/Pirate faction
Most of the rebels do surge to defense, so they get a 5+ save!
1:46 Ahhh yes my favorite jedi Luke Skypotter
I think rebels and look way too cool if you add the different stuff such as Wookies and Mandalore. I really loved painting my Speeder. You can try operative Luke, is a cool model with diferent rules.
Honestly I wish the Rebels had more vehicle variation, maybe some upgrade kits for Infantry considering how many non-humans the Rebels had.
Like, the Rebels used a lot of repurposed Civilian and Republic technology, but so far we've only got 2 examples in Legion
Love your rebel army, your enthusiasm. Thanks for the video.
I dove into Legions last week and bought a boatload of rebel stuff, was nice seeing your advice of "just speedpaint" :)
I really wanna try and solve the "rebel corps all look alike" thing, and since I don't care about looking like the real movie colors, I'm hoping that is easier.
I like the fleet trooper with the Ewok shield! I love legion! Great game fun to play!! I paint the base rims different colors so all of this squad had a blue base rim. All of that squad has a purple base rim. Thanks gents! Fantastic as always!!
i dont care much for the actual wargaming part but i just love painting clone troopers. every one you can put hours into with just doing tiny patten details. both remaking my faves from the show and making up random new ones is so fucking fun
I’m sorry, did Jay said Luke SKYPOTTER at 1:45 and 5:30?
Was looking at the comments to see if anyone had noticed and I was like "Is no one gonna mention this???" Lol
@@vera3311 Exactly. Was like, am I losing my mind?
Just stumbled upon this video. You're so enthusiastic about these games, it's a lot of fun watching you talk about it 👍
These paintjobs are crazy! Bravo. I'm trying to work my way to this level but I've got a ways to go.
Sounds like you should run wookies, chewie and ion weapons against shawn.
Also you can take Mando as an op for the rebels and he is really good
The thing that makes them “boring” kinda what makes them stick on my mind in the sliver screen. They served as the futuristic but also dated vibe of the setting while being realistic enough to get. Lucas clearly wanted his rebels to be shown as WW1/2 styled fighters given a modern splash fighting an ultra advanced and sleek regime of white coats and their impressive mecha.
On a table top level it’s a little less iconic, particularly compared to the super overdressed imperium. But as much as I hate to use a line from the ROSW, they are “just people” from all across the galaxy. Thus with 3D printing and/or creative use of model lines, it’s possible to really create a super interesting yet coherent alliance to accompany the equally diverse heroes.
To me, the Republic is one of the most visually boring factions because they are inherently sterile people that don’t exist beyond the war. You got clone troops, better clone troopers super clone troops then their mounted counterparts. To me their lack of inherit humanity is both their selling point and a detriment to ever want to paint them. Likewise the Empire is largely chromatic schemes that are a little hard to embellish.
Beautiful army. Legion is such a great game, and the models are really fun to paint.
Yaaaaas! The video I have been looking forward to!
I also have a paint day today and this is great inspiration for my rebels.
Also if you are looking for a cheap commander you can get a generic one with the upgrade pack and it let's you spend more points in the things you want to beat stick with.
Also. Wookies.
Hey Jay, love the video! I would encourage you to read the newest set of rules because a lot of things have changed through the years. Also, AMG will be releasing an updated point balance this month, so look out for that too!
You guys should do a models and memories about X-Wing. I played a ton of that game up until they changed the rules in 2.0. Lot of great memories would be cool to hear your take on it.
Glad you saw they points changes, but just a heads up in case u didnt see, there are new points again starting jan 1!
I am not a tabletop player, but more of a LEGO collector, but I feel you there.
I mostly collect imperial stuff because they are the ones who have the cool vehicles, but when it comes to minifigs I love collecting rebels, I LOVE how customizable they are. You can just switch parts around, give them different heads, weapons and gear to make all of them lool different.
Oh boy, am I glad to see that legion is still alive! I’ve learned that the bog standard rebel are actually very useful if you use them right. I use them for holding objectives. You put them in heavy cover and give a dodge. This negates 3 hits which is huge! And they can spend a dodge and regain it meaning they always have a dodge when your opponent is trying to remove them off the objective.
Those look great! I've been painting up my stormtroopers from the starter box because I'm terrified to paint the rebels!
The only people in rebels i like are the clones and mandolorians. Plus for sabine, you could always just paint the shoulder and knee pads differently. Its easier
these look so perfect, man. Love them love them love them!
Rebels have 5+ save. Battle droids have a 6+ save. Most rebel units get that “surge to defense”.
By contrast, stormtroopers have a 4+ save, and the most durable units have a 3+ save.
Ya, feels like it though lol, and to be fair, that's quite a big difference in this game, since most heros only have 6 wounds, it's not like 40k where a squad of space Marines have 10 wounds.
Right now I'm planning 2 rebel builds. A Hoth themed one, using the new battleforce as a base. And a rouge 1 themed build. So im very exited. Also would love to see your other legion forces.
Holy shit, it's the one guy who likes new Star Wars. Huh. It's like finding a unicorn!
Still love this awesome channel keep up the great work. Also just wondering what the best paints for rust are. I'm painting an ork combat patrol and I'm not too sure what to buy.
Vallejo has a couple of rust colors I really like for drybrushing.
I’ve drybrushed army painter Dry Rust on my Orks and it honestly works really well.
If you paint the squad bases in different colors for each squad it can really help you tell them apart on the battlefield. edit: lol, paused right before you mentioned this lol
I’ve seen people use the landspeeder to carry saben up close to throw out her bombs! Could try that some time! I like watching team relentless playbook, they have some fun strategies!
I TOTALLY get that. It’s a wonderful angle to take collecting. Well done
I think you meant to say, ‘.. their _amazing, iconic_ racing bike helmets’ 🤣
Luke is probably the best all around "beat stick" commander for Rebels. Cassian is super effective as a sniper, AND you get K2 in the box, but some of his mechanics are a little complicated. Han is also very consistent at damaging things. For you, I'd still say Cassian so you can do Rogue One themed stuff and get two fun models in the same box.
Great video Jay, would love similar ones for the other factions!
Your rebel army is very well painted. I especially love the weathering on the vehicles.
Jyn is my favourite Commander, paired with Sabine they’re amazing.
Use Jyn’s 2-pip on Sabine, gain Teamwork keyword. Have Jyn go and use Quick Thinking. Both gain an aim and a dodge. Situational Awareness on them both to make them tankier. Sabine with Nimble and Gunslinger. Her ability to immobilize enemies.
They’re so good. You just need more games with them. 😁
You did a great paint job on the minis. They look so cool.
Amazing paint job. Well done.
Cant wait for you to show off your star wars legion imperials! My fave evil british space facists! ❤
The blaster hole in the land speeder wind screen looks amazing.
gorgeous paint on this army dude, well done.
if you can force push an enemy into range of some fleets with standby its hilariously satisfying rolling that bucket of dice on them.
Your Rebels look phenomenal! Any how to paint videos coming in the future? Edit: Speedpaints and Sorastro!
I agree that the Rebels are the most boring faction in the game aesthetically. I'm also not a fan of how most of the Rebel and Empire minis are made of the soft plastic before they switched to sprues. 3D printing is absolutely insane for this game and at this point you can pretty much make anything you want for a proxy. I'm currently in the process of converting the whole Rebel faction into Saw Gerrera's partisans with some creative liberties thrown in to make them more interesting. Also, your paint jobs on all of these look awesome!
"I forced myself to collect the most boring army!"
"I thought you already got space marines."
Legion models are the same size as 40k models. A common rebel trooper is the same size as a Space Marine.
Han Solo is a pretty solid commander choice for Rebels too if you're looking for a commander that can output a lot of damage.
I'm loving this series !
Me (a hardcore Star Wars fan) just getting a headache when you think about the time differences and the changes of the vehicles and armors. Besides the headache a very good video ones again 👍
what of the time difference?
@@JohnnySeptum like if you make a republic vs empire game
@@PikaChu-vv9hj uh huh...and?
When you where talking about a deck...did they change that? I thought it was tokens you randomly pull from that tells you what type of unit can go. I remember getting coin protectors for mine when the game first came out.
He might be talking about Command Cards.
The game still uses Order Tokens for activations.
I love star wars and star wars legion is such a nice game. I just hope it gets expanded continuously, I think there is still a lot to be created in terms of units.
X-wing was my favourite time ever in "wargaming".
I loved the game so much
This was hilarious. You're excitement is contagious. And many of the details about the game are inaccurate... but it didn't matter... because you were having so much fun 😂
jay if we were to ever battle in legion you had best hope for a miracle cause i run clones a lot and i role dice of fire that will burn through almost any army with ease.
The transport rules have been updated a long time ago. Units dont take hits when their transports are hit anymore. Also units can shoot out of open transports.
Started playing SWL from 40k and i love it so so so much more
Yeah I intend to mark my clone troopers differently per unit via just some markings, and the bases are going to likely be numbered.
I like how you added the ewoks everywhere.
You should check out an old PC game called 'Empire At War' which is an old Star Wars title and specifically a mod called 'Awakening of the Rebellion'. This would give you quite a few more unit types to add to this army and make it a lot more interesting.
For Legion, they have layouts that map the dice to normal d6s and d8s.
Cool to see some Legion, big sw fan but still thinking about getting in, just not having any friends to play any wargames lol. Really nice touch with the ewoks.
I want to play Republic but I want them to release the iconic LAAT Gunship. Just the image of it swooping down to pick up and drop off clones just does it for me. ATTE would be great as well.
I play Jyn, I always have her running around the map shooting at things, I played 5 games, she survived all of them. I keep on hearing if you run her with the pathfinder, its a power house.
How did you do the bases they are very cool
I think they should add some of the rebel hover tanks form empire at war
I think AMG could step into the sequal trilogy with legion, plenty of new storm trooper variants to fill core, got those tread bikes and speeders from ep7. And an interesting scout walker that didn't get screen time. Resistance has all their own stuff that could be used, though I hope they give more love attention to the game now and help to solidify the base before expanding with another army set.
Oh ya and we got plenty of new heros for both sides so they have plenty for command/specialists.
Damn, have you ever done a video on the speedpaint, or can you do a video? I'd really like to see how it helped you and what you did.
I'd really like to see an Old Republic boxset with the Sith Empire vs The Old Republic!
I ought to get back into Legion, I kind of burnt out on it a long while back, before they expanded into the Prequel stuff...going through a second starter set along with more boxes over a very short time left me unwilling to really do more with it...which was compounded by a new dog who tore apart a good chunk of my rebels. Kept wanting the Republic stuff to come out, back with the WotC minis, I always went for either Republic or, rarely, Mandos
As for the tauntauns, if you look at some of the pre-Disney stuff, there were tauntaun species on other planets including jungle and deserts
Minis looks amazing :)
I've heard you mention so many Star Wars table top games in the past - Have you ever collected or played Star Wars Miniatures (from Wizards of the Coast), it was a great game and I've always wanted to see how repatining them would work out
Are there rules for a horse race on the outside of a star destroyer?
Have you ever heard of Archive-X paints? They're apparently formulated to replicate the colors used on star wars models in the movies. Newtype sells them (along with a host of Star Wars Legion models to test your new paints on)
I love the fact that you have a different gel scheme compared to the cyan/blue & red light scheme that's overused by yt creators.
Landspeeder is amazing with Han.
The transport rules changed. Models in them no longer take damage and get heavy cover. You are definitely playing at a disadvantage.
I love Warhammer 40k,but this looks interesting. I might try it with my dad sometime.
I would love to see them go even further back and do old republic with a focus on low model count jedi and sith armies
They are about to release Shatterpoint which is larger scale but fewer models like MCP. Currently just prequels but who knows where they will go.
Rebels are my jam. I have something like 150 minis. Jyn is great and one of my favorites, just don't take her toe to toe with other commanders. Send her into a unit of Stormtroopers and she rips them apart, kind of thematic. Cassian and K2 are really fun too. Get a T47 "Snowspeeder" too.