So glad to hear your thoughts on over spamming atonement. Did a pug raid as a holy priest and the other healer was disc. The other priest would only use atonement healing on all bosses and wouldn't switch it up at all even though the tanks would be on a sliver of health. It was tough but managed to get 20k hps renew spamming raid and greater heal/ serenity on cd the tanks. I didnt say anything to the other priest but I did find it odd and frustrating that this guy wouldnt change his game plan at all.
You can life grip people out of the tornados on Al Akir. It doesn't pull them to you but it drops them out of the tornado so they can run back to position.
strength of soul is so cope and you know it, ain't nobody got time as disc to hard cast a heal or gheal to reduce ws by 2s to try to bait a 3s faster rapture when rapture already not proccing on cd anyways...better off putting a point in sfiend cd, worst case sfiend then comes up in the final 30s chaos of a fight and you are free to spam pws on raid or flash on a tank... that atramedes kill was so fucking clean, the hpal couldn't even exist, but it hurts my soul that you had a borrowed time'd hymn and cancelled it 1 tick early to penance the tank at full hp, but otherwise yea that was so well played nice parse too...I can't play or watch streams this whole month too much going on but ill catch up later good luck
strength of soul is pretty cope but so is 1 ppint veiled shadows and 1% haste. Its just 1 talent point so i'm coping it up alllllllllllllllllllllllll day
It sounds like the main reason you're using the PW:S spamming playstyle is because you're struggling to go oom. Is there a reason that you're not just reforging/itemizing out of spirit into crit or haste? Wouldn't that allow you to convert some of that extra mana into increased HpM and HpS while also continuing to use Disc's most efficient spells?
it would but only by very little. The difference between reforging all crit and spamming efficient spells to go oom and reforging all haste and spamming efficient spells to go oom is really not that much. If you're ending bosses with 50% mana reforging crit ur gonna be ending bosses with 40% mana reforging haste. The thing that'll really make you go oom fast enough is changing your playstyle. And thats why PW:S has been incorporated.
Hey man, got a question. On 25man (hc) should i stack haste, or prioritize crit instead of it? Or should i stack haste until the 1st breakpoint and then crit? I would be grateful if u asnwer :)
Always played hol, never disc, and do alright. It feels pretty in-built now, how hard would you say it is to pick up disc these days? Does feel very effective
Hey thanks for all of the great info. Can you link your spec for crit stacking PW:S spam build please? I've lost track of how many points your putting into Strength of Soul, Darkness, Soul Warding, etc
Thanks for the great vids, can you share how much mana you have with your raid gear and full buffs? The vids only show a percentage and I would be interested to know where I'm at compared to you since I only starting getting nm raid gear.
wow ok, that is massive and I'm still quite far from that (probably due to the fact we're not yet raiding heroic), I'll test to see if I must remain a normie (without the sucking part) for now or if I can already move on to be a chad, but probably still too far to be a woke xD
Another quick question if you don't mind: do you have separate gears to switch depending on if you play PW:S (obviously with more mastery) or PoH (crit)? Or do you have a unique balanced gear?
Why not throw some renews to burn mp if you have everything else on lock? Since it’s an instant cast, could just use it on the move only, and PoH when static. Genuine question.
Awesome video as always! I have been following your guide since CATA released. I mostly raid 25man with my disc priest. I used to stack Haste over Crit and Mastery, but in 25man I will end up with 23% haste due to the buffs. Which means I am well over the 1 extra tick requirement (12.5% Haste) but below the 2 extra ticks requirement. I feel like those extra haste was wasted. Then I reforged all available Haste and Mastery into Crit. With raid buff, I am still able to get 14% Haste. Can you please explain the stat priority for 25man disc priest?
I wouldn't bother with haste caps as disc, just stack crit and press prayer of healing a lot in 25 man and if you can't go oom by the end of the fight then start pre PW:Sing boss mechanics.
Hey, i found your videos when i was searching for cata diszi priest. i have a few questions because tomorrow i will heal a 25 with my diszi after a long time. which glyphs are you using and should i get rid of the haste and get more mastery and krit? i have an ilvl 354 Do you have another tipp how i can survive this for 3 weeks? :D
glyph of poh, penance, pws. Reforge spirit > crit > mastery > haste. Use prayer of healing and PoM as much as possible, and prioritize healing the ranged dps & tank. Penance off cooldown, holy fire off cooldown.
Hey there , really nice guide ! Btw what is your Crit / Haste / Mastery % ? Also what stats are you reforging into Crit , and also do you use PI on yourself or on DPS ?
I just get rid of as much mastery and haste as possible and put it into crit. Also always PI yourself in cata, the boss dying half a second faster because u PI'd a dps is completely irrelevant.
@@macdaddyswag2585 im currently at 360 ilvl , just by reforging mastery+haste into crit gives me ~2,6% Crit , the value seems kinda low considering it takes away ~2,4% haste and 2% mastery . Would you also consider using Crit Gems ?
@@demoon508 the reforging will matter more later into the expansion, for now the gear optimizations are gonna be minor increases so it doesn't really matter too much what you do. Definitely only use int gems tho.
yea now try that with like 12 less ilvl no 4piece and dps that prolly does 1/2 the damage and fail all the mechanics :D idk why im still in my guild. btw u if u like preshielding so much u can prestack aegys with preayer up to like 50-60k or some shit and it stays for 30 so if going oom isnt a problem you can snipe even more heals if u want to :3 yo dont even lose much mana for it if u only do it prepull.
I asked you a while ago on one of your livestreams about 10 man raiding and you said you didn't like 10 mans because it didn't "feel like" a raid. Has your opinion changed on that? I heavily prefer 10 man raiding. 25 is too many people. I don't want to deal with attendance issues and it's way easier for 10 people to talk together than 25.
Why 3 healers on Alakir, that's highly noobilicious of you. Also my dear key-turner guy, use Move Down keybind aka teabag bind (baseline X) so you always fly down with your group and not waste your mouse movement on that :P
@@Shikaradin66 you can 2 heal, but I hate it because Phase 1 becomes fight for survival, and bad RNG will lead to wipe after a wipe. Especially with pugs. Phase 2 and 3 might be even easier than with 3 healers.
So glad to hear your thoughts on over spamming atonement. Did a pug raid as a holy priest and the other healer was disc. The other priest would only use atonement healing on all bosses and wouldn't switch it up at all even though the tanks would be on a sliver of health. It was tough but managed to get 20k hps renew spamming raid and greater heal/ serenity on cd the tanks. I didnt say anything to the other priest but I did find it odd and frustrating that this guy wouldnt change his game plan at all.
What's the weak aura you use to show your cooldowns and buffs above your raid frames?
You can life grip people out of the tornados on Al Akir. It doesn't pull them to you but it drops them out of the tornado so they can run back to position.
good to know, I'll def do that
Can also use life grip to pull people out of getting their food buff and run autorunners off edges/elevators 😊
@@Sparklefart023 will be doing this in BWD tomorrow thank you
I tried this last week and it didn't work
Thank u for this. I've asked for one of these videos in one of ur lives !!!!!!!
strength of soul is so cope and you know it, ain't nobody got time as disc to hard cast a heal or gheal to reduce ws by 2s to try to bait a 3s faster rapture when rapture already not proccing on cd anyways...better off putting a point in sfiend cd, worst case sfiend then comes up in the final 30s chaos of a fight and you are free to spam pws on raid or flash on a tank...
that atramedes kill was so fucking clean, the hpal couldn't even exist, but it hurts my soul that you had a borrowed time'd hymn and cancelled it 1 tick early to penance the tank at full hp, but otherwise yea that was so well played nice parse too...I can't play or watch streams this whole month too much going on but ill catch up later good luck
strength of soul is pretty cope but so is 1 ppint veiled shadows and 1% haste. Its just 1 talent point so i'm coping it up alllllllllllllllllllllllll day
Great video as usual
Really wished you would heal on Shammy :) loved your video in it but would love further thoughts.
It sounds like the main reason you're using the PW:S spamming playstyle is because you're struggling to go oom. Is there a reason that you're not just reforging/itemizing out of spirit into crit or haste? Wouldn't that allow you to convert some of that extra mana into increased HpM and HpS while also continuing to use Disc's most efficient spells?
it would but only by very little. The difference between reforging all crit and spamming efficient spells to go oom and reforging all haste and spamming efficient spells to go oom is really not that much.
If you're ending bosses with 50% mana reforging crit ur gonna be ending bosses with 40% mana reforging haste.
The thing that'll really make you go oom fast enough is changing your playstyle. And thats why PW:S has been incorporated.
Really good content
Hey man, got a question. On 25man (hc) should i stack haste, or prioritize crit instead of it? Or should i stack haste until the 1st breakpoint and then crit? I would be grateful if u asnwer :)
Please an updated resto druid in depth please please
What addon are you using to track your buffs?
What is your current Crit Rate , does not having Haste +Mastery cause massive drawbacks ?
A bit late for this guide but I really want to catch up with the non-normie mentality now. I love the video, subscribed.
Always played hol, never disc, and do alright. It feels pretty in-built now, how hard would you say it is to pick up disc these days? Does feel very effective
Hey thanks for all of the great info. Can you link your spec for crit stacking PW:S spam build please? I've lost track of how many points your putting into Strength of Soul, Darkness, Soul Warding, etc
www.wowhead.com/cata/talent-calc/priest/233210221213201310021-033102 this is for 10 man tho, for 25 man don't take inspiration take darkness.
If this video did anything it made me not want to be a Normie! Great video
Thanks for the great vids, can you share how much mana you have with your raid gear and full buffs? The vids only show a percentage and I would be interested to know where I'm at compared to you since I only starting getting nm raid gear.
not sure with full raid buffs, but without buffs im at 119k mana
wow ok, that is massive and I'm still quite far from that (probably due to the fact we're not yet raiding heroic), I'll test to see if I must remain a normie (without the sucking part) for now or if I can already move on to be a chad, but probably still too far to be a woke xD
when u reforge for crit, what stat do u decrease? and in what priority?
i just get rid of all my mastery and haste
Do you have Grid2 Profile? Yours is amazing.
Another quick question if you don't mind: do you have separate gears to switch depending on if you play PW:S (obviously with more mastery) or PoH (crit)? Or do you have a unique balanced gear?
nah I only have 1 set of gear and just reforge to mastery or crit depending on the raid.
Why not throw some renews to burn mp if you have everything else on lock? Since it’s an instant cast, could just use it on the move only, and PoH when static.
Genuine question.
because renews hpm and hps is low unless ur glyphed for it and reforged haste for the 6 ticks. Better to just PW:S, PoM or do nothing while moving.
Hope, one day we will see paladin guide as well❤
How much spirit are you running rn?
Awesome video as always! I have been following your guide since CATA released. I mostly raid 25man with my disc priest. I used to stack Haste over Crit and Mastery, but in 25man I will end up with 23% haste due to the buffs. Which means I am well over the 1 extra tick requirement (12.5% Haste) but below the 2 extra ticks requirement. I feel like those extra haste was wasted. Then I reforged all available Haste and Mastery into Crit. With raid buff, I am still able to get 14% Haste. Can you please explain the stat priority for 25man disc priest?
I wouldn't bother with haste caps as disc, just stack crit and press prayer of healing a lot in 25 man and if you can't go oom by the end of the fight then start pre PW:Sing boss mechanics.
@@macdaddyswag2585 thanks!
@@macdaddyswag2585 I love you man, your advise totally worked! My parse on 7 bosses are better this week with the same gear 😄
Hey, i found your videos when i was searching for cata diszi priest.
i have a few questions because tomorrow i will heal a 25 with my diszi after a long time.
which glyphs are you using and should i get rid of the haste and get more mastery and krit? i have an ilvl 354
Do you have another tipp how i can survive this for 3 weeks? :D
glyph of poh, penance, pws. Reforge spirit > crit > mastery > haste. Use prayer of healing and PoM as much as possible, and prioritize healing the ranged dps & tank. Penance off cooldown, holy fire off cooldown.
@@macdaddyswag2585 thank you so much!!!
what's the deal with barrier? on heroic magmaw is it worth to use barrier in melee range during a lava spew instead of pw: shield?
prob better to use on ranged, melee are never gonna die because of h palis.
How can you spam PowerWord Shield when it has a 3sec Cooldown? Am i missing something here?
Disc priest talent near the top of the tree
@@MKULTRARANGER Thx. Found it after looking at my Talents again. :D
Do you think PWS spam mastery build is more viable or less for a 25 man?
less, because there's more prayer of healing opportunities in 25 man.
Hey there , really nice guide ! Btw what is your Crit / Haste / Mastery % ? Also what stats are you reforging into Crit , and also do you use PI on yourself or on DPS ?
I just get rid of as much mastery and haste as possible and put it into crit. Also always PI yourself in cata, the boss dying half a second faster because u PI'd a dps is completely irrelevant.
@@macdaddyswag2585 im currently at 360 ilvl , just by reforging mastery+haste into crit gives me ~2,6% Crit , the value seems kinda low considering it takes away ~2,4% haste and 2% mastery . Would you also consider using Crit Gems ?
@@demoon508 the reforging will matter more later into the expansion, for now the gear optimizations are gonna be minor increases so it doesn't really matter too much what you do. Definitely only use int gems tho.
HOLY PALM TREES! A wild non black shirt has appeared🎉
Why did you stop streaming?
just takin a break, ill probably strum next week if i'm not tired.
YOO disc priest gamers rise up!
i am now woke after watching this
The god healer has returned! Thanks for the tipss
yea now try that with like 12 less ilvl no 4piece and dps that prolly does 1/2 the damage and fail all the mechanics :D
idk why im still in my guild.
btw u if u like preshielding so much u can prestack aegys with preayer up to like 50-60k or some shit and it stays for 30 so if going oom isnt a problem you can snipe even more heals if u want to :3
yo dont even lose much mana for it if u only do it prepull.
I asked you a while ago on one of your livestreams about 10 man raiding and you said you didn't like 10 mans because it didn't "feel like" a raid. Has your opinion changed on that? I heavily prefer 10 man raiding. 25 is too many people. I don't want to deal with attendance issues and it's way easier for 10 people to talk together than 25.
Yeah I still prefer 25 man, just don't wanna play disc in 25 man cuz its too much poh spam, and I don't wanna get dumpstered by h palis.
Thanks for the reply. Hope you're enjoying the expansion as much as I am.
@@justinlauk2540 sure am :)
Losing disc potential. Few bosses healable solo by holy pal.. you dont even need touch heals
Why 3 healers on Alakir, that's highly noobilicious of you. Also my dear key-turner guy, use Move Down keybind aka teabag bind (baseline X) so you always fly down with your group and not waste your mouse movement on that :P
was our first kill so guild leader felt like healing :[
How the fuck do you 2 heal alakir
@@Shikaradin66 you can 2 heal, but I hate it because Phase 1 becomes fight for survival, and bad RNG will lead to wipe after a wipe. Especially with pugs. Phase 2 and 3 might be even easier than with 3 healers.
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