I am a teacher at Ladysmith High School and my nickname is Blokkies Joubert ( from the David Kramer song Hak hom Blokkies). My name is Verner van Schalkwyk and i am proud of our pilots in the airforce who often have to work under difficult conditions.
I have so much respect for your guys. I had the privilege to be in the tower in Makhado you flying past, goosebumps. What an amazing experience it was for me. Thank you guys. My daughter was a ATC in the tower in Makhado. Blessings to you all ❤
The voice of Airshows !!! How I miss Waterkloof ..hometown now. Will never forget the time the Gripen was introduced.. the first show at Waterkloof.. "he's just tapping off" incredible machine with a unmatched pilot !!!
I used to go to the Durban virginia airshow every year in the early 2000's. When I heard that same commentator talk over the speaker it brought back so much nostalgia!
Apparently the Gripen is designed to be able to take off and land on short airstrips or highways, so if need be in an emergency a gripen squadron can land and refuel at a small airport such as Wonderboom, Kimberley or Upington to refuel.
+Tom Mot It's not bad by that definition but the Mirage 2000 with updated avionics and modded SNECMA M53 motor is still overall, more manouverable, faster and packs a heavier punch. And it's an older design of course.
@@k7_studio525 If you dont like the Dassault Mirage well thats your right to do so. But reading your post one gets the impression your not being really familiar with the previous planes used by SAAF. Starting with the Dassault Mirage IIIEZ and the different versions of the Mirage F-1's CZ . So the Mirage belongs to the top of the Worlds best fighters. If you like it or not. Just look up all the Air forces in the World who where useing and still use Mirages.
That certainly would have been existing. Unfortunately I doubt V3E is going to happen. Denel recently lost almost all their skill to build that system.
First of all stealth does not make the aircraft invisible... it only makes the object appear smaller on the radar and no matter how small it may appear if the object is approaching at mach speed what do you think the enemy will do? Therefore besides the gimmicky stealth capability Gripen NG is one of the best Jet any Country can procure to protect it's airspace.
Also, one feature of the Gripen is that it can land and take-off from most good condition civilian roads. Thus in a Battle Theatre, militaries always first disable Airbase runways to prevent enemy aircraft from taking-off!
@@thetad1242 Well yes. Obvious... Does SA have a proper functioning airforce or any form of military at the moment??? Nothing state owned is functioning properly after 1994.🤣🤣🤣 The current military soldiers are killing innocent unarmed civilians. They're pathetic and useless in other words.
@@SuperOle2011 ah yes like the SADF soldiers were tasked with oppressing 60% of the population and given orders to kill anyone who doesn’t comply or speaks out against the apartheid government. Get your dumb ass outta here. And yes they do .
Gripen is a weapon system where as Mirage 2000 is weapon platform. It is whole different way of looking at military doctrines. As much as I like Mirages, gripen gives SA a much wider range of operational capabilities
Privet Comrade Joubert! Good handling of that SAAB! By Vladimir, it looks like quite a few upgrades is required...especially on your last 2 flying Gripens! Don't worry we understand Swedish Spare Parts are expensive in Euros, so strip your other 27 Gripens for parts while you are not at war! Apart from the 2 Gripens, the rest of SAAF Air Assets seems ready for WW2 watching your recent Airshow! Write to your President, you are our BRICS Partners...surely our Bear will give SAAF discount on few SU-27, 35 & 57s. Comming soon our latest MiG that can nearly fly in LEO!
@DanieB52, Upington a short runway? Damn I could land anything there with over 17000ft of runway. Even JHB only comes close at 14500ft odd. I know what you are trying to say, but think of operational fields in SWA before you say Upington, but we all do make mistakes.............lol
Probably derived from a David Kramer song called "Blokkies Joubert", about a retired Springbok rugby player who remembers his glory days in 1021 (or something).
Gripen, Rafale and Eurofighter most beautiful looking planes in the world. Gripen has something about it, more freedone. The F35 seems too controlled. The Gripen is a beast with the latest upgrades.
I would have loved if they chose Rafale, but politically, the new SA government was always going to back the Swedes who backed them financially during the 'struggle'. But the Gripen is pretty amazing as a multirole fighter. Better than a Typhoon in all but air-to-air combat, I think.
same shit everywhere for example Romanian's government sold it's MiG 29's upgraded some MiG 21 and now whats to replace them with second hand F-16 at the price of new ones
Hi mate, being a S. African and a military aviation enthusiast I can answer your question. Though we rate the Gripen as a highly advance and very capable combat aircraft, I personally believe we should have bought Mirage 2000`s, simply becasue we have lots of experience in flying Mirage III`s, Mirage F1`s and Cheetahs (our own upgrade of MirIII). Ground crews and pilots had more experience in the French planes. That being said, Gripen is awesome, but Mirage would have been better suited. Regards
Non have crashed since being put in active service, the problem with the gripen for SA is range. we can not defend our west coast due to the shortness of the gripen range, without setting up a forward air strip. of course namibia is a close friend so there is no threat but it is a problem
I worked for many yearrs on the Mirage F1AZ and Cheetah D. The Cheetah D's are flying in the USA, Dragon International. They bought all the aircraft from SA.
In terms of practicality in SAAF: 1)Mirage= Existing infrastructure, maintenance facilities, pilot familiarity and trained crew....2) Gripen= ........(not)? -as a matter of fact the Gripens are grounded due to current financial constraints...
How does the South African people feel about this aircraft in general? Back in it's own country it's kind of beeing frowned upon. It had a couple of crashes during the testing stage, since all this unstable fly by wire design was new and they had very little experience with it. But people don't understand this and just consider it beeing a crashing piece of junk. No pride of our achievements any more, while all cold war fighters like the J29, J35 and AJ37 became legends during their lifetime. :(
+BLXDK Annoyingly though, they're extremely fine these days and are winning many overseas clients. They are dependable, tough, serviceable in the field and the parts are not subject to whether you're the flavour of the month with the Kremlin. The squadron and wing ready to fly percentages at any one time are constantly higher than AFs with NATO planes.
Lucian Peffer well the US have something like 900+ F-16's alone, then you have to take into account their F-18'S, F-22'S and their whole other array of fast attack aircraft.... so when you do the math.... we are like a pebble compared to a mountain😂
Wel match up with the best USAF and German Lutfafa regurlary come to train against us. People will be surprised how highly our pilots a rated in the world.
+Luke 2 ........Not a fair comparison Luke. As Jack below says below, twice the price and for a well-heeled customer who needs that grade of machine. It's multi-role, packs an enormous punch, has reference standard interdiction systems, air to ground, interactive air to sat and on and on - and very fast and sustained super-cruise capability. There are practically no unticked boxes but you're paying for it.
It`s not about which is the better plane, it`s about which one is better suited to South African airspace. SAAF had exp in operating Delta winged fighters and we had a local infrastructure (and license) to operate, maintain and repair French craft, weapons & engines. Mirage 2000 =$25mil vs Gripen $ 40-60mil cost, means it was also more cost effective. Lastly, we have no support contract with Gripen... Listen to your Gr1 teacher and read the question in the future THEN post your nonsense answer..
The so called "unstable design" has been around for almost 50 years now!! 🤨 It started with the delta wing design from French Dassault Mirage, F16 and others.... it is not a "new thing" Do not forget the SR-71 Blackbird - been around since the 60's.....even longer than anything else..... 🤨
Ek is van die Jouberts met hoogtevrees van Sabie en is jaloers want dis 'n befokte SAAB meneer! Blokkies sal nie 'n F-35 fliek toe vat nie,nee,hy sal hom grond toe vat en sy Gripen sal liefde met die F-35 se wrakstukke maak...
@@goodputin4324 Nee, heeltemal nie.Die Gripen het probleme ontwikkel met sy Tata enjin sodat die Sukhoi Su-35 bemanning glimlag maar Julius Malema reken SA kan ook vegvliegtuie vervaardig indien nodig sonder enige regering fondse beskikbaar.
Long live VIVA ANGOLA the indisputable best Air Force of mother AFRICA! Long live VIVA our Angolan Air force the new Sukhoi Flankers ; the Classic Mig and the news ones ;) We rule the AFRICAN skies and land :)
I understood it was the Zimbabwean Airforce and ZNA that were the real fighters in the Congo. Very little information out there on Angolan and Namibian performance. The odd reference to Angolan troops usually contains "rape and looting" in the same sentence.
Lt.Col.Joubert-Yubear?,shud've been in the first place appointed as SAAB-BAe Systems promo flight pilot,for he can sure pull stunts,not a whole lot of others can.Sad to say tho',even most career fighter jet pilots fly like gramps on the wheel,pathetically mundane.Watta shame
I'm not an expert ... but I follow news about fighters in the specialized press. Brazil opted for the purchase of 36 Gripen NG to be an advanced combat aircraft with excellent embedded technology and an arsenal of weapons respectable. So it's a great fighter. It may be that there are more powerful fighters, but the story is simple, each nation buys what they can afford and that provides better technology at a more affordable price. In this context, it is what matters !! The rest comes with training...
Strange? You beeing a "military aviation enthusiast", dont you whant the best military aircraft? Gripen is a much better Aircraft. And Gripen beeing much more economic to fly and maintain you would newer see the Mirage 2000 in the sky.
It's not only about being economic, its about how strong the plane is, the gripen loses only a little agility in when stocked up on ammo and bombs, compared to other aircraft that's a damn little to lose put on
Interesting. This video only got recommended to me today. Although this was already uploaded 11 years ago... And being a South African, the unfortunate yet very typical and relevant question popped into my head: How many, out of the original 26 gripens that where bought, are still air worthy today? Could we ward off an attack by any of our neighbors or worse yet, Terrorist cells within our borders? I mean, these jets are not the freshest anymore. They where delivered between 2008 and 2012. Let's say, the youngest of these jets is at least 12 years old already. Sure, IF they are being cared for and maintained and upgraded as they should, they should be able to go a long way still. But who knows if this has been done? I remember a time (+/- 10 years ago) when we would see two to three groups of gripens in formation, flying circles over the capital. I think the last time I saw, only a lone gripen, over our skies, was more than a year ago. Where are the others? Has the last one also died now? Our defense force really has become a sad state, thanks to gross mismanagement and neglect at the highest levels.
I'd rather our government make sure that school kids from very poor households get breakfast and lunch served to them than have pilots rip around the sky in Gripens. I think a country with healthy and productive future citizens is more important than having larny military hardware.
@Anchelm44 The cheetah is not a Mirage3 upgrade, It is a virtual clone of the Israeli Kfir fighter. The Kfir itself is also not a MIII upgrade - it's based on it, and came into existence as a result of an embargo against Israel by the French. In other words, A Cheetah ( and it's Kfir Relative) are not Mirage 3's, they are just inspired by it.
Israel took some of their mirage III and with data from other Mirage operator air forces altered the Mirage III with the American J79 jet engine to make a jet that they can produce locally. This isn't just "inspired" as the planes were essentially modified Mirage III jets, so to call the Kfir fighter a upgraded Mirage III would be an accurate description of the plane. Though the Mirage III was more meant as a interceptor, the Israeli version really came into its own during the 1973 war.
Mirage = Mirage 2000?? Dont worry, ground crew and pilots are wery well trained. My point is that if Gripen is grounded, Mirage 2000 is grounded. If you like the Mirage more then Gripen its fine! We all have diffrent taste.
@Codie Morgan, you are in part correct and Anchelm44 as well. Israel and RSA both decided to upgrade their F3's and yes RSA 'stole' the wings and canards from the Kfir, but as for the rest, they are two completely different aircraft. Been SA, I would love to say the Cheetah is better then the Kfir, but having not flown either, guess I can't say anything. Anchelm does make some good points though. I as an RSA aviation trained fanatic also agree SA should of gone the Mirage route, but they were not prepared to buy every member in parliament a ML merc to win the contract and guess who won in the now beautiful corrupt RSA? I have watched Blokkies do many an airshow (and sorry Blokkies) and yet the Grippen has not impressed me. Maybe in a combat situation it will outshine a Cheetah with modern international electronics, but guess I believe in old school RSA with Kentron and Aerosud technology
Even though it has crashed the least of all modern fighters, especially during development... All incidents since the two famous crashes have been caused by either pilot error or malfunctioning equipment not part of the actual aircraft (like the ejection seat).
Most of those crashes were during the development stage and were down to buggy software. Bet they spent way less than on the F35 which can also pull 9Gs, but NOT SUSTAINED! It loses airspeed in tight turns.
No wonder a ww2 general said (exact words may not be correct but the story is true); "Give me 10 US divisions to invade a country, 5 Brit Divisions to hold the captured land and 2 South African Divisions to end the war".
"Give me 20 divisions American soldiers and I will breach Europe. Give me 15 consisting of Englishmen, and I will advance to the borders of Berlin. Give me two divisions of those marvellous fighting Boers (Meaning Farmer, originating from the Boer War) and I will remove Germany from the face of the earth." Field Marshal Bernard L. Montgomery, Commander of the Allled forces during WWII. "The Americans fight for a free world, the English mostly for honour and glory and medals, the French and Canadians decide too late that they have to participate. The Italians are too scared to fight; the Russians have no choice. The Germans for the Fatherland. The Boers? Those sons of bitches fight for the hell of it." American General, George "Guts and Glory" Patton "Take a community of Dutchmen of the type of those who defended themselves for fifty years against all the power of Spain at a time when Spain was the greatest power in the world. Intermix with them a strain of those inflexible French Huguenots, who gave up their name and left their country forever at the time of the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. The product must obviously be one of the most rugged, virile, unconquerable races ever seen upon the face of the earth. Take these formidable people and train them for seven generations in constant warfare against savage men and ferocious beasts, in circumstances in which no weakling could survive; place them so that they acquire skill with weapons and in horsemanship, give them a country which is eminently suited to the tactics of the huntsman, the marksman and the rider. Then, finally, put a fine temper upon their military qualities by a dour fatalistic Old Testament religion and an ardent and consuming patriotism. Combine all these qualities and all these impulses in one individual and you have the modern Boer." Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
@@petes9524 Thank you Laurie, I have been looking for these quotes for a long time. My great grandfather was a boer soldier and ended up on Robben Island after killing an Englishmen who guarded him in prison. Broke his neck with two massive hands apparently. Lol.
Maintaining this airforce is expensive, and in the context of a poverty stricken nation only justifiable because the risk of invasion by Zimbabwe is a real and present danger.
He should leave South Africa and head to better shores. Someplace where he'll be valued for his skill. South Africa has been lost. There's nothing worth fighting for there now.
Don`t get me wrong, as an individual multirole fighter plane I love the Gripen. My whole point was that me (as well as alot of other senior SAAF officers) would have preferred the Mirage2000 for a logical replacement. It`s a pity that the handful of operational pilots who were actually combat ready would soon have that status revoked due to SA`s corrupt and scandalous running of the SAAF..ferrying government officials around for silly holidays whilst they cannot maintain combat readiness...
I am a teacher at Ladysmith High School and my nickname is Blokkies Joubert ( from the David Kramer song Hak hom Blokkies). My name is Verner van Schalkwyk and i am proud of our pilots in the airforce who often have to work under difficult conditions.
Mr joubert love and support and thank you for your service 🇿🇦
I have so much respect for your guys. I had the privilege to be in the tower in Makhado you flying past, goosebumps. What an amazing experience it was for me. Thank you guys. My daughter was a ATC in the tower in Makhado. Blessings to you all ❤
The voice of Airshows !!! How I miss Waterkloof ..hometown now. Will never forget the time the Gripen was introduced.. the first show at Waterkloof.. "he's just tapping off" incredible machine with a unmatched pilot !!!
Great performance. Good demonstration of the JAS-39's capabilities.
I used to go to the Durban virginia airshow every year in the early 2000's. When I heard that same commentator talk over the speaker it brought back so much nostalgia!
absolutely stunning!!!!!!! GOOSEBUMPS!!!!!
Apparently the Gripen is designed to be able to take off and land on short airstrips or highways, so if need be in an emergency a gripen squadron can land and refuel at a small airport such as Wonderboom, Kimberley or Upington to refuel.
Hell, a fuel truck could meet them on whatever road they choose to land on.
Can pull out the engine n put in another in about an hour I believe
Upington has one of the longest runways in the world. The last time I checked it was no6.
Upington is like the 4th longest runway in the world. I might be wrong tho
@@benhandelsman7360 Yes used to be but I checked and in the meantime, two longer ones were constructed in Russia. So it is down to no 6 now.
The Jas39's RCS makes it a very scary adversary for any fighter coming up against it without even mentioning its combat system and weapons!!
Damn good pilot! I wonder what became of this gentleman in today's South Africa.
As far as I know he still serves in our airforce
@@kirstenalexander7339 I think he should've become chief of the South African air force by now- he deserves this distinction!
@@supercat380 well then he wouldn’t be flying would he? 😂😉
@@jaredkruger9750 ?. Can't understand your reply.
That plane is probably gathering dust
JAS Gripen, The finest single engine fighter in the world.
+Tom Mot ja dis jas! XD
+Tom Mot It's not bad by that definition but the Mirage 2000 with updated avionics and modded SNECMA M53 motor is still overall, more manouverable, faster and packs a heavier punch. And it's an older design of course.
I'm no expert but the way I understand it the SAAF Gripens have a custom, top of the line avionics suite of higher spec than 'standard' Gripens.
We don't want ur mirag
Go home to french if you think your mirag is better...
@@k7_studio525 If you dont like the Dassault Mirage well thats your right to do so. But reading your post one gets the impression your not being really familiar with the previous planes used by SAAF. Starting with the Dassault Mirage IIIEZ and the different versions of the Mirage F-1's CZ . So the Mirage belongs to the top of the Worlds best fighters. If you like it or not. Just look up all the Air forces in the World who where useing and still use Mirages.
Impressive flying!
I love the saaf and The new V3e s darter missile is coming out
That certainly would have been existing. Unfortunately I doubt V3E is going to happen. Denel recently lost almost all their skill to build that system.
First of all stealth does not make the aircraft invisible... it only makes the object appear smaller on the radar and no matter how small it may appear if the object is approaching at mach speed what do you think the enemy will do? Therefore besides the gimmicky stealth capability Gripen NG is one of the best Jet any Country can procure to protect it's airspace.
If you see a sparrow flying at mach 1.6 its a F-35
Karl-benny johansson if you see a tail-less delta winged fighter turning inside of your F-35 then it’s the good old Gripen.
Did pilot Joubear actually do a 'Drift' right at moment 10:14? If indeed he did,W0W!,this aircraft is capable at doing even that,remarkable,ain't it.
he used right brake and rudder input, nothing special, most fighter can do that.
Also, one feature of the Gripen is that it can land and take-off from most good condition civilian roads. Thus in a Battle Theatre, militaries always first disable Airbase runways to prevent enemy aircraft from taking-off!
Beautiful aeroplane.
I was watching that live. Sooo impressive. It's probably gathering dust these days
@Ninja72 Thats great to know and you are so lucky.
@Ninja72 I really do hope sth African get themselves fixed.
None of our Gripens are collecting dust stop lying to people
Really loud irl.😍
Dream to fly the Grippen.🇿🇦🏆
Brilliantly done Blokmies ,@'"wat a boytjie !!!😊
No expert at all but a great pilot from my amateur perspective. Haven't seen this type of "bold" flying from swedish pilots yet...
Watch more south Africa air force videos, this kind of aggressive flying is very typical of the saaf
@Dan Roley f. U
That makes perfect sense. Thanks for the insight. :)
amazing his my dad btw
For once there's a comment section where the majority are positive about SA Defences forces
Everything about those from the SADF prior to 1994 is positive
@@SuperOle2011 biased much.
@@thetad1242 Well yes. Obvious... Does SA have a proper functioning airforce or any form of military at the moment??? Nothing state owned is functioning properly after 1994.🤣🤣🤣 The current military soldiers are killing innocent unarmed civilians. They're pathetic and useless in other words.
Was just thinking the same thing....
@@SuperOle2011 ah yes like the SADF soldiers were tasked with oppressing 60% of the population and given orders to kill anyone who doesn’t comply or speaks out against the apartheid government. Get your dumb ass outta here. And yes they do .
Glad you are protecting us against idiots north of us! Love the plane - passes over us in Benoni regularly - love it!!!!
'UNDERGROUND AIRFIELD' haha...had a good laugh...there really is none
Gripen is a weapon system where as Mirage 2000 is weapon platform. It is whole different way of looking at military doctrines. As much as I like Mirages, gripen gives SA a much wider range of operational capabilities
Lol
Privet Comrade Joubert! Good handling of that SAAB! By Vladimir, it looks like quite a few upgrades is required...especially on your last 2 flying Gripens! Don't worry we understand Swedish Spare Parts are expensive in Euros, so strip your other 27 Gripens for parts while you are not at war!
Apart from the 2 Gripens, the rest of SAAF Air Assets seems ready for WW2 watching your recent Airshow! Write to your President, you are our BRICS Partners...surely our Bear will give SAAF discount on few SU-27, 35 & 57s. Comming soon our latest MiG that can nearly fly in LEO!
@DanieB52, Upington a short runway? Damn I could land anything there with over 17000ft of runway. Even JHB only comes close at 14500ft odd. I know what you are trying to say, but think of operational fields in SWA before you say Upington, but we all do make mistakes.............lol
Nice. What does Blokkies mean btw. Its a nickname right?
Probably derived from a David Kramer song called "Blokkies Joubert", about a retired Springbok rugby player who remembers his glory days in 1021 (or something).
Blokkies = cubes or blocks and yes nickname
Thanks guys. I'm trying to learn Afrikaans I find it fascinating
Nice bird
Gripen, Rafale and Eurofighter most beautiful looking planes in the world. Gripen has something about it, more freedone. The F35 seems too controlled. The Gripen is a beast with the latest upgrades.
RAPTOR F22 IS THE FINEST
Fucking awesome fighter jet.
Kw thrust/kg @ Grippen/Shakelton/Dackelton ???
the Swiss must be crazy to buy a pimped 4th generation jet for this price! f****** nuts - or someone in Swiss gvt. got a very nice gift from saab!
What else is there?
Mias Bouwer
they had a offer for both rafale and eurofighter for the same price.
I would have loved if they chose Rafale, but politically, the new SA government was always going to back the Swedes who backed them financially during the 'struggle'. But the Gripen is pretty amazing as a multirole fighter. Better than a Typhoon in all but air-to-air combat, I think.
same shit everywhere for example Romanian's government sold it's MiG 29's upgraded some MiG 21 and now whats to replace them with second hand F-16 at the price of new ones
well, the swiss are not "supposed to" anymore!
Hi mate, being a S. African and a military aviation enthusiast I can answer your question. Though we rate the Gripen as a highly advance and very capable combat aircraft, I personally believe we should have bought Mirage 2000`s, simply becasue we have lots of experience in flying Mirage III`s, Mirage F1`s and Cheetahs (our own upgrade of MirIII). Ground crews and pilots had more experience in the French planes. That being said, Gripen is awesome, but Mirage would have been better suited. Regards
France was not unfriendly to the old SA. Sweden was very very cosy with the ANC. I suspect logical practicalities never even came into it.
All about the pilot, any pilots in afrcan states???
Hey ou Blokkies... Julle is n joke my tjom!!!
Non have crashed since being put in active service, the problem with the gripen for SA is range. we can not defend our west coast due to the shortness of the gripen range, without setting up a forward air strip. of course namibia is a close friend so there is no threat but it is a problem
'Namibia is a close friend' there is a understanding they are neighbours, nothing more
Waar is die boere mirage?
Usama Morgan sold unfortunately.
Cheeta?
Die cessna 206 ? Jokes ;-) Ja goeie vraag.
target practice for the USAF
I worked for many yearrs on the Mirage F1AZ and Cheetah D.
The Cheetah D's are flying in the USA, Dragon International. They bought all the aircraft from SA.
Very nice! Think the SU 29 is better though.
+Werner Bruin I think your wrong
Gripens have market both Russiand and US stealth spyplanes ;-)
It’s my favorite plane to fly in x-plane :D
In terms of practicality in SAAF: 1)Mirage= Existing infrastructure, maintenance facilities, pilot familiarity and trained crew....2) Gripen= ........(not)? -as a matter of fact the Gripens are grounded due to current financial constraints...
How does the South African people feel about this aircraft in general? Back in it's own country it's kind of beeing frowned upon. It had a couple of crashes during the testing stage, since all this unstable fly by wire design was new and they had very little experience with it. But people don't understand this and just consider it beeing a crashing piece of junk. No pride of our achievements any more, while all cold war fighters like the J29, J35 and AJ37 became legends during their lifetime. :(
As usual, a good video ruined by music. We want to hear the aircraft, not music.
🤲🏾🕯️🕯️🕯️
We should have bought Mig29's or Sukhoi's
+BLXDK Annoyingly though, they're extremely fine these days and are winning many overseas clients. They are dependable, tough, serviceable in the field and the parts are not subject to whether you're the flavour of the month with the Kremlin. The squadron and wing ready to fly percentages at any one time are constantly higher than AFs with NATO planes.
I know, MIGS are fucking amazing
We should have bought F-14❤❤
Listening to Blokkies lol i cant take that seriously lol. Anyway i wonder how our full military arsenal stacks up to the US.
Lucian Peffer well the US have something like 900+ F-16's alone, then you have to take into account their F-18'S, F-22'S and their whole other array of fast attack aircraft.... so when you do the math.... we are like a pebble compared to a mountain😂
Wel match up with the best USAF and German Lutfafa regurlary come to train against us. People will be surprised how highly our pilots a rated in the world.
The Rafale would have been, good range, maneuverability,firepower, speed etc.
+Luke 2 Twice the price
+Luke 2 ........Not a fair comparison Luke. As Jack below says below, twice the price and for a well-heeled customer who needs that grade of machine. It's multi-role, packs an enormous punch, has reference standard interdiction systems, air to ground, interactive air to sat and on and on - and very fast and sustained super-cruise capability. There are practically no unticked boxes but you're paying for it.
Proud to know that such incredible machine in our airforce. Still think we should've bought something Russian though.
It`s not about which is the better plane, it`s about which one is better suited to South African airspace. SAAF had exp in operating Delta winged fighters and we had a local infrastructure (and license) to operate, maintain and repair French craft, weapons & engines. Mirage 2000 =$25mil vs Gripen $ 40-60mil cost, means it was also more cost effective. Lastly, we have no support contract with Gripen... Listen to your Gr1 teacher and read the question in the future THEN post your nonsense answer..
The so called "unstable design" has been around for almost 50 years now!! 🤨
It started with the delta wing design from French Dassault Mirage, F16 and others.... it is not a "new thing" Do not forget the SR-71 Blackbird - been around since the 60's.....even longer than anything else..... 🤨
Look at the gripen's ancestor the drakken in 1955. Was doing the cobra long before anyone else. The swedes called it kort parad.
Ek is van die Jouberts met hoogtevrees van Sabie en is jaloers want dis 'n befokte SAAB meneer! Blokkies sal nie 'n F-35 fliek toe vat nie,nee,hy sal hom grond toe vat en sy Gripen sal liefde met die F-35 se wrakstukke maak...
Ja?
@@goodputin4324 Nee, heeltemal nie.Die Gripen het probleme ontwikkel met sy Tata enjin sodat die Sukhoi Su-35 bemanning glimlag maar Julius Malema reken SA kan ook vegvliegtuie vervaardig indien nodig sonder enige regering fondse beskikbaar.
@@innamanjoubert9881 God
@@goodputin4324 I prefer Jesus with a baseball bat myself to inflict some punishment and just good old seat-of-the-pants piloting.
@@innamanjoubert9881 Julius is reg regerings fondse is onoodig as jy banke beroof
Only defense we got for Sukhoi Su-35 Hunter Killer
Long live VIVA ANGOLA the indisputable best Air Force of mother AFRICA! Long live VIVA our Angolan Air force the new Sukhoi Flankers ; the Classic Mig and the news ones ;) We rule the AFRICAN skies and land :)
Augusto Mundombe you're fooling yourself. Angolans are small boys in military. The big boys in Africa are South Africa, Egypt and Algeria
Lmfao the SADF fucked the Angolan airforce up. Today we oy used 2 rooivalk attack helicopters to fuck up Angolan rebels. Lol
I understood it was the Zimbabwean Airforce and ZNA that were the real fighters in the Congo. Very little information out there on Angolan and Namibian performance. The odd reference to Angolan troops usually contains "rape and looting" in the same sentence.
Lt.Col.Joubert-Yubear?,shud've been in the first place appointed as SAAB-BAe Systems promo flight pilot,for he can sure pull stunts,not a whole lot of others can.Sad to say tho',even most career fighter jet pilots fly like gramps on the wheel,pathetically mundane.Watta shame
I'm not an expert ... but I follow news about fighters in the specialized press. Brazil opted for the purchase of 36 Gripen NG to be an advanced combat aircraft with excellent embedded technology and an arsenal of weapons respectable. So it's a great fighter. It may be that there are more powerful fighters, but the story is simple, each nation buys what they can afford and that provides better technology at a more affordable price. In this context, it is what matters !! The rest comes with training...
Let’s increase their funding. We need to support passionate men and women like these.
Strange? You beeing a "military aviation enthusiast", dont you whant the best military aircraft? Gripen is a much better Aircraft. And Gripen beeing much more economic to fly and maintain you would newer see the Mirage 2000 in the sky.
It's not only about being economic, its about how strong the plane is, the gripen loses only a little agility in when stocked up on ammo and bombs, compared to other aircraft that's a damn little to lose put on
this plane is wonderfull
i had 2 Saabs cars...now i want a Saab Jet :D
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arme blokkis is gevok met die lot
I wonder if there are any serviceable in the SAAF today?
Interesting. This video only got recommended to me today. Although this was already uploaded 11 years ago...
And being a South African, the unfortunate yet very typical and relevant question popped into my head: How many, out of the original 26 gripens that where bought, are still air worthy today? Could we ward off an attack by any of our neighbors or worse yet, Terrorist cells within our borders?
I mean, these jets are not the freshest anymore. They where delivered between 2008 and 2012. Let's say, the youngest of these jets is at least 12 years old already. Sure, IF they are being cared for and maintained and upgraded as they should, they should be able to go a long way still. But who knows if this has been done?
I remember a time (+/- 10 years ago) when we would see two to three groups of gripens in formation, flying circles over the capital. I think the last time I saw, only a lone gripen, over our skies, was more than a year ago. Where are the others? Has the last one also died now?
Our defense force really has become a sad state, thanks to gross mismanagement and neglect at the highest levels.
I'd rather our government make sure that school kids from very poor households get breakfast and lunch served to them than have pilots rip around the sky in Gripens. I think a country with healthy and productive future citizens is more important than having larny military hardware.
@Anchelm44 The cheetah is not a Mirage3 upgrade, It is a virtual clone of the Israeli Kfir fighter. The Kfir itself is also not a MIII upgrade - it's based on it, and came into existence as a result of an embargo against Israel by the French. In other words, A Cheetah ( and it's Kfir Relative) are not Mirage 3's, they are just inspired by it.
Israel took some of their mirage III and with data from other Mirage operator air forces altered the Mirage III with the American J79 jet engine to make a jet that they can produce locally. This isn't just "inspired" as the planes were essentially modified Mirage III jets, so to call the Kfir fighter a upgraded Mirage III would be an accurate description of the plane. Though the Mirage III was more meant as a interceptor, the Israeli version really came into its own during the 1973 war.
Allow me to laugh, take a look at the older Swedish aircraft, for example the Draken, and you will see who cheated.
I would like to be proud of my Country, but I find that difficult, these days. 😑
Gripen can sneak behind any plane and shoot them down, before they don´t know what ever happened.
Did the Swedish support the ANC during apartheid so that they could sell them expensive planes later?
Why does South Africa need these planes?
NICE 2 C the ARABS flooding sweden
Yes, Swedes supported ANC dissidents.
Werhner Wangra , thats why Olof Palme got bumped off!
Thats like asking why does the army need troops you dont have an airforce with no fighter,unless your Zimbabwe😂😂
Don't be kak, be lekker.
Of course I'm Cobra .... .
Mirage = Mirage 2000??
Dont worry, ground crew and pilots are wery well trained. My point is that if Gripen is grounded, Mirage 2000 is grounded.
If you like the Mirage more then Gripen its fine! We all have diffrent taste.
Impressive..... but one swallow does not make it summer in South Africa.
@Codie Morgan, you are in part correct and Anchelm44 as well. Israel and RSA both decided to upgrade their F3's and yes RSA 'stole' the wings and canards from the Kfir, but as for the rest, they are two completely different aircraft. Been SA, I would love to say the Cheetah is better then the Kfir, but having not flown either, guess I can't say anything. Anchelm does make some good points though. I as an RSA aviation trained fanatic also agree SA should of gone the Mirage route, but they were not prepared to buy every member in parliament a ML merc to win the contract and guess who won in the now beautiful corrupt RSA? I have watched Blokkies do many an airshow (and sorry Blokkies) and yet the Grippen has not impressed me. Maybe in a combat situation it will outshine a Cheetah with modern international electronics, but guess I believe in old school RSA with Kentron and Aerosud technology
Even though it has crashed the least of all modern fighters, especially during development...
All incidents since the two famous crashes have been caused by either pilot error or malfunctioning equipment not part of the actual aircraft (like the ejection seat).
Most of those crashes were during the development stage and were down to buggy software. Bet they spent way less than on the F35 which can also pull 9Gs, but NOT SUSTAINED! It loses airspeed in tight turns.
That plane a real bit of kit there.
Ek dink die Gripen is net so goed soos die F16....dalk beter
It's using the F-18 engine
No wonder a ww2 general said (exact words may not be correct but the story is true); "Give me 10 US divisions to invade a country, 5 Brit Divisions to hold the captured land and 2 South African Divisions to end the war".
I believe it was Mongomery who said something along those lines referring to a shortage of good officers
@@greenpedal370 - no! referring to the outstandingly aggressive nature of South African troops.
"Give me 20 divisions American soldiers and I will breach Europe. Give me 15 consisting of Englishmen, and I will advance to the borders of Berlin. Give me two divisions of those marvellous fighting Boers (Meaning Farmer, originating from the Boer War) and I will remove Germany from the face of the earth." Field Marshal Bernard L. Montgomery, Commander of the Allled forces during WWII.
"The Americans fight for a free world, the English mostly for honour and glory and medals, the French and Canadians decide too late that they have to participate. The Italians are too scared to fight; the Russians have no choice. The Germans for the Fatherland. The Boers? Those sons of bitches fight for the hell of it." American General, George "Guts and Glory" Patton
"Take a community of Dutchmen of the type of those who defended themselves for fifty years against all the power of Spain at a time when Spain was the greatest power in the world. Intermix with them a strain of those inflexible French Huguenots, who gave up their name and left their country forever at the time of the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. The product must obviously be one of the most rugged, virile, unconquerable races ever seen upon the face of the earth. Take these formidable people and train them for seven generations in constant warfare against savage men and ferocious beasts, in circumstances in which no weakling could survive; place them so that they acquire skill with weapons and in horsemanship, give them a country which is eminently suited to the tactics of the huntsman, the marksman and the rider. Then, finally, put a fine temper upon their military qualities by a dour fatalistic Old Testament religion and an ardent and consuming patriotism. Combine all these qualities and all these impulses in one individual and you have the modern Boer." Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
@@petes9524 Thank you Laurie, I have been looking for these quotes for a long time. My great grandfather was a boer soldier and ended up on Robben Island after killing an Englishmen who guarded him in prison. Broke his neck with two massive hands apparently. Lol.
Maintaining this airforce is expensive, and in the context of a poverty stricken nation only justifiable because the risk of invasion by Zimbabwe is a real and present danger.
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Jas = 2000$ per hour and Mirage = 2700 per hour
Liberal army lol
He should leave South Africa and head to better shores. Someplace where he'll be valued for his skill. South Africa has been lost. There's nothing worth fighting for there now.
Supersix - I believe South Africans are mature enough to turn the place around, it has many talented God-fearing people with vision.
Don`t get me wrong, as an individual multirole fighter plane I love the Gripen. My whole point was that me (as well as alot of other senior SAAF officers) would have preferred the Mirage2000 for a logical replacement. It`s a pity that the handful of operational pilots who were actually combat ready would soon have that status revoked due to SA`s corrupt and scandalous running of the SAAF..ferrying government officials around for silly holidays whilst they cannot maintain combat readiness...
Very inappropriate to share or make such comments on social media from a so called senior SAAF Official
the gripen is a far more capable aircraft and cheaper to maintain than the mirage 200
@@sjandrestrydom1104 The truth is always appropriate.....and what he says is the truth....what would you prefer....lies....
Who are we fighting?What a waste of taxpayers money.
NO STEALT IN GRIPEN C.
Greased palms made RSA buy the gripen..she is the Princess of the skies and the Mirage is the QUEEN of the skies
RSA needs to acquire a few MIG's or SU -35 asap. PLEASE!!!!!!
Thabelo Mulidzwi i think we need the su-57