Jävla pissgranne ni har, vi har bra grejor men åt helvette för lite bara. Men nu blir det bättring, brukar säga att om Sverige tillverkar vapnen för det är vi bra på så kan Finland lära svensken att kriga igen.
Thank you Mover for the interview with André! I’m from LINKÖPING, where SAAB is located. Now I’m 78 years old, but in the 60s I used to work at SAAB on the JA 37 Viggen program. In the 70s and 80s I lived in the US, but now when I’m old I’m back in Sweden. Having the family summer home almost a straight line from the SAAB runway, I see and hear Andrė and his pilot colleagues every day. I love the sound! Kjell
I envy you getting to see Gripen fly over all the time,it is quite a lovely airplane.More should have been sold overseas but Saab and the Swedish government cannot compete in sales with the US or even France.Economic ties as well as loose military ties are offered by the US which Stockholm cannot equal.The F-35 is an amazing aircraft but I question the ability of many of the countries who are and will be operating it to afford it long term.The combination of the Gripen E/F and the Globaleye system would seem to be something many countries would find useful.
So professional, it is amazing how capable one can be. I welcome my Swedish cousines to our NATO alliance. I,17 years old , applied to Finnish air force, and the doctor said "those air force gyus are the most getlemen I have ever seen"
I did my military service in 1989 as an mechanic on JA37 Viggen. One task we did was to reset and take note of the max-g reading. If it was above 8 g we were told to address this to an service officer before resetting. At one time a pilot stepped out of the cockpit with a kind of worrying face and when I climbed in to the cockpit to do my tasks I read the max-g meter to 9.8 g. I told the service officer and he first went pail and then red in his face and he called back the pilot and gave him the following words -"You know what this means, right? This is a 16 labor hour inspection work to be done on this aircraft. And YOU are going help us do it!" I had never, soner or later, seen a person of such high asteem shrink to wet puddle on the ground right there on the spot. The fighter pilots of Swedish Air Force are my tru idols to this day.
this dude takes his job very seriously i can tell. after watching his gripen display I'm gonna say he's badass! I would bet to say this is the kinda guy you want as your wingman or flight lead.
He’s like my father, just do it if someone says you can’t do it. Just do it. It’s cold outside. Yes it is but work will keep you warm. It’s just for some hours then I will go home again.
I'm not sure if he's badass. To be sure of that - he need to be tested in "real conflict". If he still will be that 'cold' when there will be someone that wants to kill him - for real.
When Brazil was picking out the next fleet of fighter jets there were three competitors: the Super Hornet, the Rafale, and the Gripen. The Super Hornet was never that strong of a contender due to its age and price tag. The Air Force favored the Gripen, but for a time it looked like the Rafale would be picked for political reasons. I'm very glad the Gripen won out -- not only did Brazil get a sweet technology transfer deal to go with it, but it looks like the E version turned out better than anyone had anticipated.
@@yakidin63 "Plus SAAB isnt cheap" Yes, the unit cost is higher than the initial projections, but that always happens. What's more important to me is that we helped build the thing, on top of the tech transfer deal. That knowledge is just as valuable as the jets themselves, if not more so. We wouldn't have gotten that with the Rafale.
@@nick21614 The airframe is newer, the aircraft itself is not. As for the price, remember you can't order fighter jets from amazon. There's no such thing as a list price -- each deal is its own thing, and when Brazil was offered these deals, the Super Hornet was the most expensive of the three. One extra point that made the deck stacked against the Hornet is that the NSA was caught spying on our president at the time. The possibility of backdoors being included in American hardware was also considered -- after all, when the US is one of the most likely candidates for starting funny business against us, you don't want them to have access to some button that just turns the jets off or whatever.
Wow Saab 37 Draken, Saab 37 Viggen and Saab JAS 39 Gripen and Gripen E. I've been following Saab fighterjet since 1971 when they released the Saab 37 Viggen. As a 6 year old I had a model Viggen.
Philippine airforce is in the final stages of getting it’s first Gripen squadron. I’m really happy we’re getting this aircraft (and some Old F-16 block 40s as well) Thank you Mover for making this video. Hope you can get Andre back, I could listen to both of you for days
Really well done! Well edited, excellent questions, great flow, super use of footage. This had the feel of a documentary level interview and is a real next level. Damn she is a gorgeous airplane! And what an epic dude to listen to. Thanks for this.
I'm amazed to see these older guys being display pilots, we have Blokkies Joubert here in South Africa who has been a pilot for a long time and flying the Gripen.
Mover, what a GREAT guy. He strikes me as the kind of guy who makes it fun to come to work, and it was a real treat to listen to both of you through this. The content of late has been really great- with all that's going on in the world right now, thank you for having inspiring and thoughtful content. If you want to know why it matters, I've had medical students who work with me watch your videos, and they show up for work the next day applying the Big 3 rules. Thanks for all you do- be safe and w'yat!
I just got into my tech school in the AF for flight controls and i wanted to thank you because of the motto of "make them tell you no" Another airman has flight controls for the B-2 but wanted the RC-135, i have the RC-135 but wanted the B-2. Everyone's first reaction to hearing that situation said "oh well, thats how the air force works" but i went out of my way to ask about swapping and it IS possible. I know i would have just accepted the my fate in the past but now ive got a real chance at maintaining the B-2
I've seen a few Gripen displays, likely that André might have flown in at least one, and it is always really impressive and feels one with a sense of pride! Knowing that we have a bunch of people like this in our Swedish Armed Forces (Försvarsmakten) is reassuring! Great interviews, really interesting.
I played ice hockey for 13 years C and RW is what I played, I'm from Omaha,NE in USA Sweden is always a country I wanted to come visit however after watching my dad die cancer when I was 18 I'm 39 now addiction got a hold of me That's why I couldn't go to the military I tried to join when I was 19 but I had an alcohol seizure from withdrawals at 18 I wanted to fly F-16😂😂😂😂 Sundin is amazing hockey player ❤❤in
A lot of people know this, but it's still worth repeating: Gripen was designed for a very particular tactical situation, namely Sweden's during the cold war. It's a "bespoke" aircraft, if you will. Comparisons like "is it better than X" is still interesting, but bear in mind what it was made for. There was a huge debate in Sweden in the 70s if we should really try and design another "domestic" fighter and a lot of people felt we should just buy a foreign one. At the time we were a country of 7 million people, mind you, so that's less than NYC or Paris. Anyway, the Gripen was designed to be able to be serviced and maintained by enlisted personell, to operate from dispersed bases (basically strips of highway) etc and to fulfill the exact geopolitical and tactical requirements of a particular country at a particular time in history. I suppose the lack of commercial success is a reflection of the fact that the airplane is so tailor-made to a particular set of requirements.
You can only say that until the Charlie version, the Echo is totally different in range, performance, envelope and lethality... How to use the term "tailor-made" of two very different aircraft? It's like saying that an F-18 and a Super-Hornet are the same aircraft... The Gripen C and E don't even share the same structure or even the same wings. Search about the Gripen Echo data by searching for the Brazilian company "AKAER", which was the one who redesigned the new structure of the Gripen. Gripen E shouldn't even be called Gripen and it actually almost got renamed to Super-JAS39
I think the lack of commercial success is due entirely to influence and pressure from the US government, and not the design or technical abilities of the aircraft.
@@ceciliaieav I agree and disagree. But yes, overall you can say the very same about lots of aircrafts. F-16A from mid 80's ofcouse differ extremely much compared to the F-16V that came almost 30 years later. But...they are all based on the same airframe (with changes every now and then). Just as a russian T-90 is a modernized T-72 tank. Still, the thing about Gripen still exist. It was- and still is produced to fit into swedish doctrine. Eg. STOL capacity. Just as so many other swedish inventions. Everything from eg. the swedish Bandkanon 1, S-tank (Stridsvagn 103C) to infrastructure (highways built so they can act as temporary airbases, bunkers, fortifications and so on).
Riksdag demanded it do all the mission profiles of the Viggen variants, on a tight budget. The series of obvious compromises in the little Gripen are evidence of that. Viggen had a much more powerful Pratt & Whitney engine, but that engine wasn't designed for high AOA, so suffered compressor stalls when turning.
Instant like 👍🏻 And thank you Mover for your efforts to analyse some of the situation in the Ukraine the way you do. Staying objective the best way possible is not always easy, but necessary. Give my regards to Wombat and Gonky.
Man Mover, you knocked it out of the park with this interview. So interesting to get the perspective of a foreign fighter pilot, and a bonus that it was the Gripen, one of the most interesting fighters (4th Gen?). The conversation was well-paced with insightful questions and thoughtful - but sometimes surprising - answers! Well done!!
Yeah 4th gen, but I’m systems the E/F is more like a 5th gen platform with an aesa radar, datalink, full glass cockpit, radar jammers… commonly referred to as 4.5 gen or 4++ gen fighter
@@kalle5548 it's hard to categorize it with the old generation categorization because with it's ground breaking EWS its surpassing 5th gen fighters in certain areas
@@andersmalmgren6528 This one? th-cam.com/video/n50suTPXXSo/w-d-xo.html I don't know much about these stuff, just accidentally found and watched the video in the link, then this came up... I can only say: I'm impressed! Proud to be 🇸🇪
What an amazing interview series with an amazing and humble fighter pilot from my lovely hometown Linköping👌🏻🙌🏻 I live really near the SAAB factory so I see and hear those guys every other day😁🇸🇪 It would be so cool if the Swedish Air Force could let you come here and take you on a ride in a 2-seater Gripen! Other “TH-camers” have been able to do that and if someone it should be you!
Excellent interview! Have had the pleasure of working with him and the Swedish Air Force several times during my time in the Norwegian Air Force, i.e the Arctic Challenge Exercise (ACE) he talked about. I'm really impressed by the Swedish innovation and technology. Was definitely on par with our US made systems. With the tention we have today from our neighbor in the east, it'll be interesting to see how long the Swedes and Finnish count themselves as "neutral".
Had me glued to this interview Mover! Great Chemistry! To have a personal perspective from Andre let alone being able to do this with Saab's help was extremely interesting! Hope You can have a follow up with him in the future!! And Who knows? Perhaps You may get a ride in this fine piece of aircraft engineering as a guest one day. Blue Skies Brother & Everyone :)
I always thought of Gripen as a very capable no nonsense fighter aircraft. I'm Danish and I personally would have liked to see them being part of our Airforce. I can hope we will have our Swedish brothers and sisters in mind now that we are also increasing our defense budget but it's really just wishful thinking. We bought F-35s so we will probably just add a few more planes to that fleet if there will be money left for more aircraft.
35:15 I'm just a (former) grunt but I know what he's talking about. I served as a UN peacekeeper so I understand the difference between training and live rounds in the weapon. When it dawns on you that people out there might actually, intentionally try to kill you: it's a different game altogether.
Great episode! Superinteresting to hear the perspective from the Swedish pilot and great followup-questions from Lemoine.👌✔ Thanks a lot for this episode!❤
Great interview! Thanks for all the good content. I really enjoy seeing you guys talking on the channel with such passion about aviation while still keeping a “both feet on the ground” approach when commenting and analyzing 3rd party material. Looking forward to seeing those Gripen flying in Brazilian air shows 😀👊
As you finished up with Mover, really awesome to see the demo flight then talk with the pilot - just outstanding. Thanks for putting together a great pair of vids, highly interesting and entertaining, and great to hear from pilots from other parts of the world. Cheers mate.
Excellent interview. I got the opportunity to visit the factory in 1994 or 1995, with a flight in the back of the 2000. Got to sit #2 behind a Gripen taking off. Good times.
There was talk about doing this with the F-16, to allow pilots an emergency option. A certain air force superior did not want the option, to prevent having a lot of broken jets and/or fatigued and un flyable before their useful life. It is sort of ironic this individual passed away in an F-16 pulling 9gs for everything he had before impacting the ground. So much for saving jets, let alone pilots.
Great interview - cool to hear about the Gripen from a true expert. I think some other really cool Swedish fighter pilots were the men that escorted the SR 71 in 1987 that were awarded for their efforts.
I used to live in Linköping, where Gripen is developed. It's a small-ish city, with lots of tech. They have a small airport with flights to Copenhagen and Amsterdam. Last time I was on one of those flights, the guy next to me was reading from a folder about Meteor missiles. Turns out he was also a test pilot for Saab. He was also about to age out of that job - so I asked if he was thinking about being a commercial pilot, or translate his skills into the civil sector somehow. He said "yeah... when you've flown like that, flying a commercial plane is like being a glorified bus driver".
I saw just one of these SAAB's Jets Flying around Jax NAS about 7 or 8 years ago.. I finally could make out the Low Vis Swedish Markings. I wasnt sure what I was looking at, at 1st. Gripens use a Single F/A 18 Engine or a variation of that plant.
Amazing fighter I'm kind sorry my country chose Rafale over the Grippen for Croatia AF , looking at the capabilities of the JAS39 overall needs , land/sea configuration of Croatia I think the JAS39 is the perfect suited fighter .
@@bren67 I didn't say its bad I just say the Grippen would be far better choice economically, our country is small we don't need a 2 engine Multirole 2+ M fighter jet I'm more then confident that JAS39 D would do the job just as good ,cost less and be more appropriate for our landscape & airspace.
@@DarkOmenX Yes, that is correct. I used to fly the Gripen...so the cost of maintaining the Rafale is significantly higher...Small countries always have a limited budget so it is going to effect the flight hours and thus proficiency and flight safety...you might end up like the South African AF.... As an information with anything less than a 120 hours actual flight (40-50 minutes avg sortie time) + 120-150 hours tactical flight in simulator per year a pilot will not be able to learn/use the 3 main roles of a multirole fighter...of course what Croatia needs is mainly AA role for air policing you might say... for that you need 100 actual + 100sim hours only...BUT you have some coastline...and the naval warfare is the 4th role...EW is the 5th role...
@@electricaviationchannelvid7863 the only way to achieve this fight hrs would be if Croatia deploys 2 or more with NATO air policing like Baltic Shield and possible get some costs covered by the alliance and then rotate crews. I was kind of surprised they went for a robust twin engine multirole fighter like Rafale not because its bad on the contrary its overkill for a small country like us however now we can flex some muscles at least on the ground 😉 Personally I feel sort of a pride that our AF will finally have powerful fighter however as you mention its not only the jet its everything around the whole weapons system , flight per hour, maintainence, upgrades, will see how this will be going.
@@Kolobochok95 Sweden isn't a NATO country. So there are likely some "challenges" to a NATO country buying them. With both U.S. and France being in NATO you can bet that they will guard their market jealously.
@@Kolobochok95 everyone believed the hype about the f35 now ppl are finding out the cost of up keep and operations there in .... so if your selling point is hype we'll I stand on my first comment. Only good fighter is one that is in the air doing its job.... an even better combat aircraft is one that can exist in a combat environment and do its job!
@@sasquatchycowboy5585 the jas39 was built to function seamlessly with nato requirements also to carry and deploy almost any of natos armaments including everything the usa presently uses.... the jas 39 just makes more sense as a combat aircraft
Great interview Mover! I'd love to see more interviews with pilots from other countries, especially from Eastern European countries given all that's going on over there.
You should write the Flygvapnet and ask if you could go there and fly the Gripen double seater and make a TH-cam video from it. The Försvarsmakten have collaborated with some TH-camrs in the past so it is a possibility.
Looking back at this, I can't get my head around the fact that the Belgian Air Force chose Fat Amy over the Gripen. Like he said, it's great bang for buck. And with our limited military budgets, it seemed like the right choice to me.
Swiss, Finns, Canadians, Danes, Dutch, and now Germans too. Maybe their Air Forces know something you don't. F-35A costs less to acquire and the same to maintain as the Gripen C/D, according to Magnus Skogberg, Saab's H-X manager.
@@LRRPFco52 Yeah, more than likely. I mean, the competitors were the Gripen, Rafale and the F35. So Fat Amy was the only proper 5th gen fighter in the running. It's about being future proof I guess.
@@vtownjester The harsh reality is that 1 of the options is survivable in current IADS networks, and is designed to be easily upgraded to grow ahead of future threats, while the others still have problems dealing with certain 1980s threats. In terms of reliability, maintainability, and availability, nothing comes close to F-35As. The MMHPFH just dropped to 3.5 hours for the F-35A fleet, which is preposterously-low. I never thought they would break through lower than 4 hours again, which is still unprecedented. F-16s had the lowest MMHPFH of any single engine, and they are 11-14hrs, not including pods, pylons, special weapon targeting systems, and all the bolt-on ancillary equipment necessary to do their relevant mission sets. Same with any other 4th and 4.5 Gen fighter. We don’t get the reported mx hours for FLIR, Targeting, Recce, or ECM pods included with the overall MMHPFH, since the pods can be moved to other aircraft. All of that type of equipment (a generation more advanced) is integrated into the JSF airframe. You can’t hide it from MMHPFH, and yet F-35A still has 3.5hrs average across the fleet. The later production lots have had a big influence on bringing it down from its already previously-low mx hours. If you compare it with a Rafale or Typhoon, for example with their twin engines and legacy federated architecture, it’s a Godsend for maintenance personnel.
The reason for the Belgian choice is that their fighters need to be compatible with US nuclear weapons. The Gripen isn’t. Fighter deals are extremely rarely about the system itself, it’s about alliances, political and military and lot of other things. Of course it’s been very difficult for the non NATO country of Sweden to sell fighters to NATO countries. This might change now that Sweden is joining nato
I am just really glad that Swedes are on our side. Starkare tillsammans.
Finlands sak är vår! 🇸🇪🤝🇫🇮
Russian poutine can't even watch their side
Jävla pissgranne ni har, vi har bra grejor men åt helvette för lite bara. Men nu blir det bättring, brukar säga att om Sverige tillverkar vapnen för det är vi bra på så kan Finland lära svensken att kriga igen.
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Thank you Mover for the interview with André! I’m from LINKÖPING, where SAAB is located. Now I’m 78 years old, but in the 60s I used to work at SAAB on the JA 37 Viggen program. In the 70s and 80s I lived in the US, but now when I’m old I’m back in Sweden. Having the family summer home almost a straight line from the SAAB runway, I see and hear Andrė and his pilot colleagues every day. I love the sound! Kjell
I envy you getting to see Gripen fly over all the time,it is quite a lovely airplane.More should have been sold overseas but Saab and the Swedish government cannot compete in sales with the US or even France.Economic ties as well as loose military ties are offered by the US which Stockholm cannot equal.The F-35 is an amazing aircraft but I question the ability of many of the countries who are and will be operating it to afford it long term.The combination of the Gripen E/F and the Globaleye system would seem to be something many countries would find useful.
@@harri9885 vi älskar finnjävlar
I would love to hear an interview from you as well. Hope all is well 🙏😁🙏
En från Östergötland här också! Verkar som dom rustar upp och använder F13 i Norrköping nu!
So professional, it is amazing how capable one can be. I welcome my Swedish cousines to our NATO alliance. I,17 years old , applied to Finnish air force, and the doctor said "those air force gyus are the most getlemen I have ever seen"
I did my military service in 1989 as an mechanic on JA37 Viggen. One task we did was to reset and take note of the max-g reading. If it was above 8 g we were told to address this to an service officer before resetting. At one time a pilot stepped out of the cockpit with a kind of worrying face and when I climbed in to the cockpit to do my tasks I read the max-g meter to 9.8 g. I told the service officer and he first went pail and then red in his face and he called back the pilot and gave him the following words -"You know what this means, right? This is a 16 labor hour inspection work to be done on this aircraft. And YOU are going help us do it!"
I had never, soner or later, seen a person of such high asteem shrink to wet puddle on the ground right there on the spot. The fighter pilots of Swedish Air Force are my tru idols to this day.
16 hours is really not that much. Its like the one fighthour of a B2
@@matsv201bro just compared a regular fighter jet to the best stealth bomber in the world
@@issakawalit490 You mean the ONLY stealth Bomber? Its nots hard to be #1 when you are the only 1 lol.
Remember: the mechanics own the aircraft, the pilots merely borrow it.
this dude takes his job very seriously i can tell. after watching his gripen display I'm gonna say he's badass! I would bet to say this is the kinda guy you want as your wingman or flight lead.
He’s like my father, just do it if someone says you can’t do it. Just do it. It’s cold outside. Yes it is but work will keep you warm. It’s just for some hours then I will go home again.
I'm not sure if he's badass. To be sure of that - he need to be tested in "real conflict". If he still will be that 'cold' when there will be someone that wants to kill him - for real.
@@Rotaks Didn't you watch the video? He was part of a wing of Gripen pilots that did missions in Libya...
It1s obvious you have no idea of what you are talking about@@Rotaks
When Brazil was picking out the next fleet of fighter jets there were three competitors: the Super Hornet, the Rafale, and the Gripen. The Super Hornet was never that strong of a contender due to its age and price tag. The Air Force favored the Gripen, but for a time it looked like the Rafale would be picked for political reasons. I'm very glad the Gripen won out -- not only did Brazil get a sweet technology transfer deal to go with it, but it looks like the E version turned out better than anyone had anticipated.
Rafale sells a lot more jets than SAAB. Plus SAAB isnt cheap. Brazil have cancelled orders for freighters to pay for Gripens to be built.
@@yakidin63 Gripen was cheaper then the Rafale for Brazil.
@@yakidin63 "Plus SAAB isnt cheap"
Yes, the unit cost is higher than the initial projections, but that always happens. What's more important to me is that we helped build the thing, on top of the tech transfer deal. That knowledge is just as valuable as the jets themselves, if not more so. We wouldn't have gotten that with the Rafale.
Super Hornet is newer and less expensive than Rafale
@@nick21614 The airframe is newer, the aircraft itself is not. As for the price, remember you can't order fighter jets from amazon. There's no such thing as a list price -- each deal is its own thing, and when Brazil was offered these deals, the Super Hornet was the most expensive of the three.
One extra point that made the deck stacked against the Hornet is that the NSA was caught spying on our president at the time. The possibility of backdoors being included in American hardware was also considered -- after all, when the US is one of the most likely candidates for starting funny business against us, you don't want them to have access to some button that just turns the jets off or whatever.
Andre did win this years best show in a Gripen E at RIAT23..
As a Swede I'm very proud of that humbled guy and the Gripen. We are a small country but sometimes we get it right🤗
Not so, you are HUGE country with a very small population! Your defence industry is the envy of the Free world, in particular your wonderful Gripen.
@@tacfoley4443Yes i can recommend buying an house in the woods of north Sweden for vacation.
Its cheap and you can fish and enjoy the nature.
If my government was smart Canada would buy jas39
Wow Saab 37 Draken, Saab 37 Viggen and Saab JAS 39 Gripen and Gripen E. I've been following Saab fighterjet since 1971 when they released the Saab 37 Viggen. As a 6 year old I had a model Viggen.
Philippine airforce is in the final stages of getting it’s first Gripen squadron. I’m really happy we’re getting this aircraft (and some Old F-16 block 40s as well)
Thank you Mover for making this video. Hope you can get Andre back, I could listen to both of you for days
Excellent interview. Andre knows his stuff and his enthusiasm for Gripen is very evident.
This guy is a BEAST! Awesome interview!!
Yeah, talk about "speak softly and carry a big stick".
Really well done! Well edited, excellent questions, great flow, super use of footage. This had the feel of a documentary level interview and is a real next level. Damn she is a gorgeous airplane! And what an epic dude to listen to. Thanks for this.
I agree, the visuals were beautiful and this is one of the better interviews I've seen on any channel. Thanks to Mover and André!
I'm amazed to see these older guys being display pilots, we have Blokkies Joubert here in South Africa who has been a pilot for a long time and flying the Gripen.
Old? Have you seen Sean D. Tuckers act before he retired? He was flying +12/-8gs in his early 60s.
As someone who wants to be a pilot on the Brazilian air forçe Gripen's this is interesting
thanks doing this content!
Mover, what a GREAT guy. He strikes me as the kind of guy who makes it fun to come to work, and it was a real treat to listen to both of you through this.
The content of late has been really great- with all that's going on in the world right now, thank you for having inspiring and thoughtful content. If you want to know why it matters, I've had medical students who work with me watch your videos, and they show up for work the next day applying the Big 3 rules.
Thanks for all you do- be safe and w'yat!
I just got into my tech school in the AF for flight controls and i wanted to thank you because of the motto of "make them tell you no" Another airman has flight controls for the B-2 but wanted the RC-135, i have the RC-135 but wanted the B-2. Everyone's first reaction to hearing that situation said "oh well, thats how the air force works" but i went out of my way to ask about swapping and it IS possible. I know i would have just accepted the my fate in the past but now ive got a real chance at maintaining the B-2
I've seen a few Gripen displays, likely that André might have flown in at least one, and it is always really impressive and feels one with a sense of pride! Knowing that we have a bunch of people like this in our Swedish Armed Forces (Försvarsmakten) is reassuring!
Great interviews, really interesting.
The greatest threat against Sweden these days is not yet recognized and accepted, nor defended against th-cam.com/video/V6RM-M6t47M/w-d-xo.html
Awesome interview! That Mats Sundin lookalike is badass for sure. Greetings from Finland
Hahahahahaha, I love your hockey connection brother! ❤ Sweden
I played ice hockey for 13 years C and RW is what I played, I'm from Omaha,NE in USA Sweden is always a country I wanted to come visit however after watching my dad die cancer when I was 18 I'm 39 now addiction got a hold of me That's why I couldn't go to the military I tried to join when I was 19 but I had an alcohol seizure from withdrawals at 18 I wanted to fly F-16😂😂😂😂 Sundin is amazing hockey player ❤❤in
A lot of people know this, but it's still worth repeating: Gripen was designed for a very particular tactical situation, namely Sweden's during the cold war. It's a "bespoke" aircraft, if you will. Comparisons like "is it better than X" is still interesting, but bear in mind what it was made for. There was a huge debate in Sweden in the 70s if we should really try and design another "domestic" fighter and a lot of people felt we should just buy a foreign one. At the time we were a country of 7 million people, mind you, so that's less than NYC or Paris. Anyway, the Gripen was designed to be able to be serviced and maintained by enlisted personell, to operate from dispersed bases (basically strips of highway) etc and to fulfill the exact geopolitical and tactical requirements of a particular country at a particular time in history. I suppose the lack of commercial success is a reflection of the fact that the airplane is so tailor-made to a particular set of requirements.
You can only say that until the Charlie version, the Echo is totally different in range, performance, envelope and lethality...
How to use the term "tailor-made" of two very different aircraft?
It's like saying that an F-18 and a Super-Hornet are the same aircraft... The Gripen C and E don't even share the same structure or even the same wings. Search about the Gripen Echo data by searching for the Brazilian company "AKAER", which was the one who redesigned the new structure of the Gripen.
Gripen E shouldn't even be called Gripen and it actually almost got renamed to Super-JAS39
I think the lack of commercial success is due entirely to influence and pressure from the US government, and not the design or technical abilities of the aircraft.
@@ceciliaieav I agree and disagree. But yes, overall you can say the very same about lots of aircrafts. F-16A from mid 80's ofcouse differ extremely much compared to the F-16V that came almost 30 years later.
But...they are all based on the same airframe (with changes every now and then). Just as a russian T-90 is a modernized T-72 tank.
Still, the thing about Gripen still exist. It was- and still is produced to fit into swedish doctrine. Eg. STOL capacity. Just as so many other swedish inventions. Everything from eg. the swedish Bandkanon 1, S-tank (Stridsvagn 103C) to infrastructure (highways built so they can act as temporary airbases, bunkers, fortifications and so on).
Riksdag demanded it do all the mission profiles of the Viggen variants, on a tight budget. The series of obvious compromises in the little Gripen are evidence of that.
Viggen had a much more powerful Pratt & Whitney engine, but that engine wasn't designed for high AOA, so suffered compressor stalls when turning.
@@74DarkmanGripen E has a totally different airframe from the other version is bigger than the A-D versions.
What a great interview! Thanks Mover and Andre!
Instant like 👍🏻 And thank you Mover for your efforts to analyse some of the situation in the Ukraine the way you do. Staying objective the best way possible is not always easy, but necessary. Give my regards to Wombat and Gonky.
Man Mover, you knocked it out of the park with this interview. So interesting to get the perspective of a foreign fighter pilot, and a bonus that it was the Gripen, one of the most interesting fighters (4th Gen?). The conversation was well-paced with insightful questions and thoughtful - but sometimes surprising - answers! Well done!!
Yeah 4th gen, but I’m systems the E/F is more like a 5th gen platform with an aesa radar, datalink, full glass cockpit, radar jammers… commonly referred to as 4.5 gen or 4++ gen fighter
@@kalle5548 it's hard to categorize it with the old generation categorization because with it's ground breaking EWS its surpassing 5th gen fighters in certain areas
@@andersmalmgren6528 Yeah I'd heard that to but wasn't quite shore
@@andersmalmgren6528 This one? th-cam.com/video/n50suTPXXSo/w-d-xo.html
I don't know much about these stuff, just accidentally found and watched the video in the link, then this came up...
I can only say: I'm impressed! Proud to be 🇸🇪
@@kalle5548 There is nothing 5th gen about E/F. It is a 4.5 gen. That's it.
What an amazing interview series with an amazing and humble fighter pilot from my lovely hometown Linköping👌🏻🙌🏻 I live really near the SAAB factory so I see and hear those guys every other day😁🇸🇪 It would be so cool if the Swedish Air Force could let you come here and take you on a ride in a 2-seater Gripen! Other “TH-camers” have been able to do that and if someone it should be you!
Excellent interview! Have had the pleasure of working with him and the Swedish Air Force several times during my time in the Norwegian Air Force, i.e the Arctic Challenge Exercise (ACE) he talked about. I'm really impressed by the Swedish innovation and technology. Was definitely on par with our US made systems. With the tention we have today from our neighbor in the east, it'll be interesting to see how long the Swedes and Finnish count themselves as "neutral".
Had me glued to this interview Mover! Great Chemistry! To have a personal perspective from Andre let alone being able to do this with Saab's help was extremely interesting! Hope You can have a follow up with him in the future!! And Who knows? Perhaps You may get a ride in this fine piece of aircraft engineering as a guest one day. Blue Skies Brother & Everyone :)
I always thought of Gripen as a very capable no nonsense fighter aircraft. I'm Danish and I personally would have liked to see them being part of our Airforce. I can hope we will have our Swedish brothers and sisters in mind now that we are also increasing our defense budget but it's really just wishful thinking. We bought F-35s so we will probably just add a few more planes to that fleet if there will be money left for more aircraft.
two wonderful people!.... Thanks!
Fascinating guy. Very interesting interview. He's a beast, with those push-pull maneuvers. How he didn't black out is beyond me.
4:20
Goodness the difference of opinion, this guy has an incredible attitude.
“Bring it on!”
“Yeah… we did.”
Love this. 😊
Can’t wait for a follow up!! That centrifuge chat was hilarious : )
Great interview Mover. This guy is definitely living his best life.
35:15 I'm just a (former) grunt but I know what he's talking about. I served as a UN peacekeeper so I understand the difference between training and live rounds in the weapon. When it dawns on you that people out there might actually, intentionally try to kill you: it's a different game altogether.
Great episode! Superinteresting to hear the perspective from the Swedish pilot and great followup-questions from Lemoine.👌✔
Thanks a lot for this episode!❤
Great interview! Thanks for all the good content.
I really enjoy seeing you guys talking on the channel with such passion about aviation while still keeping a “both feet on the ground” approach when commenting and analyzing 3rd party material.
Looking forward to seeing those Gripen flying in Brazilian air shows 😀👊
As you finished up with Mover, really awesome to see the demo flight then talk with the pilot - just outstanding. Thanks for putting together a great pair of vids, highly interesting and entertaining, and great to hear from pilots from other parts of the world. Cheers mate.
Excellent interview. I got the opportunity to visit the factory in 1994 or 1995, with a flight in the back of the 2000. Got to sit #2 behind a Gripen taking off. Good times.
Jesus… thanks for this material… love this aircraft. Thanks mover!… respect!
Awesome interview.... Thank you both for making this happen.
How did I miss this? This is awesome! :D
Been waiting on the second half🙌Andre is a joy to listen too.
This is an extraordinarily well marketed aircraft.
Really enjoyed this interview sir! Great questions and flow.
Flat out AWESOME! Thanks Mover! Thanks André!
Really good video thank you! Proud to be Swedish!
I sincerely enjoyed this interview with Bulan. Exceptional content as always. Thank you.
14:45 so 12g are possible with the Gripen, nice .
There was talk about doing this with the F-16, to allow pilots an emergency option. A certain air force superior did not want the option, to prevent having a lot of broken jets and/or fatigued and un flyable before their useful life. It is sort of ironic this individual passed away in an F-16 pulling 9gs for everything he had before impacting the ground. So much for saving jets, let alone pilots.
I watched the demo and for real this dude is old but badass.
That’s awesome! Great interview, looking forward to the next demo display from the E version
Adding this news as comment ,a year later! André Brännström won first prize for his show at the Royal International Air Tattoo a few days back :D
at 24:52 the brand new Rheinmetall/ Siemens TW VT Tachyon Lances are mounted underneath both wings.
Another great interview, Mover. Andre', thanks for sharing your thoughts. You're flying a beautiful jet.
Great interview - cool to hear about the Gripen from a true expert. I think some other really cool Swedish fighter pilots were the men that escorted the SR 71 in 1987 that were awarded for their efforts.
Yes back in the Viggen days one Viggen also famous for able to lock on sR 71
@@RobIn-iu2td they did that multiple times
Agree on that. When Viggen showed up the hunters turned home. Something to remember.
The cold war kept our Swedish pilots on their toes.
They were and are really great airmen!
Helt underbart! Thanks from Sweden🇸🇪
Great interview, you just have the knack of getting the right guys to join you and inspire the next generation of awesome....
Fantastic interview, bring this guy back 👍🏻
Great interview. Great fighter. As a south african we use the Gripen. Beautiful plane
Thank you both for your time !
31:35: Discussion of the Saab Gripen E, which is a 4.5-generation fighter program
Thank you again, C. W., for hosting these great discussions, and of course, thanks to Andre. I love these interviews. "_
The best job in the world 🌎 flying in general. That was the best comment he made. Great interview. Good man.
Two Great Professional's Talking about what they love
AWSOME... :-) WOW....THIS IS BEST INTERVIEW OF YEAR, THX !!!
I hope to see the E version flying this summer at the yearly Air Show, it's been on static display for years but never seen it fly.
Thanks André and Mover, awwesome interview ❤
I'm going to apply to become a future Gripen pilot this summer and I can't wait! "The weather is always good above the clouds"
Loved the “I’m throwing my name in the hat for a job” moment.
Awesome dude, super nice guy, and a sierra hotel pilot.
Wonderful. Amazing. Well done Mover and Andre.
Mover that was a great interview with Andre!
Absolutely love this aircraft it's such a mean-looking aircraft when fully loaded with air 2 air
I used to live in Linköping, where Gripen is developed. It's a small-ish city, with lots of tech. They have a small airport with flights to Copenhagen and Amsterdam. Last time I was on one of those flights, the guy next to me was reading from a folder about Meteor missiles. Turns out he was also a test pilot for Saab. He was also about to age out of that job - so I asked if he was thinking about being a commercial pilot, or translate his skills into the civil sector somehow. He said "yeah... when you've flown like that, flying a commercial plane is like being a glorified bus driver".
Dude's a BEAST with that jet!
AWESOME interview! And man, what a cool aircraft!
This was a great interview CW...I enjoyed your review of the flight video. To get to interview the pilot has been very informational...great job..
awesome to know such classy people are our allies and they have awesome planes to so win win
I saw just one of these SAAB's Jets Flying around Jax NAS about 7 or 8 years ago.. I finally could make out the Low Vis Swedish Markings. I wasnt sure what I was looking at, at 1st. Gripens use a Single F/A 18 Engine or a variation of that plant.
better than anything on tv. thanks mover👍👍👍👍👍
That was so cool. Great to hear from the demo pilot. :))
_Kickass_ interview!
Awesome guy, awesome aircrafts, cool interview
Amazing fighter I'm kind sorry my country chose Rafale over the Grippen for Croatia AF , looking at the capabilities of the JAS39 overall needs , land/sea configuration of Croatia I think the JAS39 is the perfect suited fighter .
The raffle is hardly a bad aircraft, they are both excellent
@@bren67 I didn't say its bad I just say the Grippen would be far better choice economically, our country is small we don't need a 2 engine Multirole 2+ M fighter jet I'm more then confident that JAS39 D would do the job just as good ,cost less and be more appropriate for our landscape & airspace.
@@DarkOmenX that's a very good point, yes I did not think of that
@@DarkOmenX Yes, that is correct. I used to fly the Gripen...so the cost of maintaining the Rafale is significantly higher...Small countries always have a limited budget so it is going to effect the flight hours and thus proficiency and flight safety...you might end up like the South African AF....
As an information with anything less than a 120 hours actual flight (40-50 minutes avg sortie time) + 120-150 hours tactical flight in simulator per year a pilot will not be able to learn/use the 3 main roles of a multirole fighter...of course what Croatia needs is mainly AA role for air policing you might say... for that you need 100 actual + 100sim hours only...BUT you have some coastline...and the naval warfare is the 4th role...EW is the 5th role...
@@electricaviationchannelvid7863 the only way to achieve this fight hrs would be if Croatia deploys 2 or more with NATO air policing like Baltic Shield and possible get some costs covered by the alliance and then rotate crews. I was kind of surprised they went for a robust twin engine multirole fighter like Rafale not because its bad on the contrary its overkill for a small country like us however now we can flex some muscles at least on the ground
😉 Personally I feel sort of a pride that our AF will finally have powerful fighter however as you mention its not only the jet its everything around the whole weapons system , flight per hour, maintainence, upgrades, will see how this will be going.
Thanks for interviewing André and thanks André for talking. ;-) It's hard to not like swedish people, is it?
Thank you 🤭 sir!
Really liked this dialogue, thanks!
Thanks Andre'. Good interview Mover!
Excellent interview Mover.
Proud as a Swede! 🇸🇪
I purchased your books, couldn't stop reading until the last page of the fourth volume.
Please, write more books
What a great interview 🙏🏼nice 👍🏼🇸🇪🎗🇺🇲Top as always....
Jas 39 is a true combat aircraft short runway capability with 10 min refuel n arm back up no f35 or f22 can do that beauty of a multi role bird
Yet barely anyone is buying them. Hmmm, must be really good.
@@Kolobochok95 Sweden isn't a NATO country. So there are likely some "challenges" to a NATO country buying them. With both U.S. and France being in NATO you can bet that they will guard their market jealously.
@@Kolobochok95 Politics is a very large factor when it comes to buying military equipment.
@@Kolobochok95 everyone believed the hype about the f35 now ppl are finding out the cost of up keep and operations there in .... so if your selling point is hype we'll I stand on my first comment. Only good fighter is one that is in the air doing its job.... an even better combat aircraft is one that can exist in a combat environment and do its job!
@@sasquatchycowboy5585 the jas39 was built to function seamlessly with nato requirements also to carry and deploy almost any of natos armaments including everything the usa presently uses.... the jas 39 just makes more sense as a combat aircraft
CANADA needs to buy the Gripen E for our new fighter. So many reasons it makes sense.
Gripen was built for your climate. It's a perfect match :)
@@andersmalmgren6528 It can also land on roadways! I really hope Canada selects Gripen. It’s such a forward looking platform.
@@charlesblithfield6182 yepp it can and be turned around in 10 minutes by a few conscripts
Yes this or F35
Sorry, you got the American Cadillac instead of the European sports car 😉 I kid, the F-35 is great I'm sure. Expensive tho.
Great interview Mover! I'd love to see more interviews with pilots from other countries, especially from Eastern European countries given all that's going on over there.
Great interview, very interesting👍
You should write the Flygvapnet and ask if you could go there and fly the Gripen double seater and make a TH-cam video from it. The Försvarsmakten have collaborated with some TH-camrs in the past so it is a possibility.
Love to see a Saab solo demo at Airventure Oshkosh.
Hope you can go for a airshow with that team Mover! Would make a awesome video!
Love your channel!!! Thanks for another great video.
Looking back at this, I can't get my head around the fact that the Belgian Air Force chose Fat Amy over the Gripen.
Like he said, it's great bang for buck. And with our limited military budgets, it seemed like the right choice to me.
Swiss, Finns, Canadians, Danes, Dutch, and now Germans too. Maybe their Air Forces know something you don't.
F-35A costs less to acquire and the same to maintain as the Gripen C/D, according to Magnus Skogberg, Saab's H-X manager.
@@LRRPFco52 Yeah, more than likely. I mean, the competitors were the Gripen, Rafale and the F35. So Fat Amy was the only proper 5th gen fighter in the running. It's about being future proof I guess.
@@vtownjester The harsh reality is that 1 of the options is survivable in current IADS networks, and is designed to be easily upgraded to grow ahead of future threats, while the others still have problems dealing with certain 1980s threats.
In terms of reliability, maintainability, and availability, nothing comes close to F-35As. The MMHPFH just dropped to 3.5 hours for the F-35A fleet, which is preposterously-low. I never thought they would break through lower than 4 hours again, which is still unprecedented. F-16s had the lowest MMHPFH of any single engine, and they are 11-14hrs, not including pods, pylons, special weapon targeting systems, and all the bolt-on ancillary equipment necessary to do their relevant mission sets.
Same with any other 4th and 4.5 Gen fighter. We don’t get the reported mx hours for FLIR, Targeting, Recce, or ECM pods included with the overall MMHPFH, since the pods can be moved to other aircraft.
All of that type of equipment (a generation more advanced) is integrated into the JSF airframe. You can’t hide it from MMHPFH, and yet F-35A still has 3.5hrs average across the fleet. The later production lots have had a big influence on bringing it down from its already previously-low mx hours.
If you compare it with a Rafale or Typhoon, for example with their twin engines and legacy federated architecture, it’s a Godsend for maintenance personnel.
The reason for the Belgian choice is that their fighters need to be compatible with US nuclear weapons. The Gripen isn’t.
Fighter deals are extremely rarely about the system itself, it’s about alliances, political and military and lot of other things. Of course it’s been very difficult for the non NATO country of Sweden to sell fighters to NATO countries. This might change now that Sweden is joining nato
I love the gripen, it's beautiful and awesome.😊