The CRKD Nitro Deck Has a Major Issue - Review
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It looks like they just wanted to recreate the Joy Cons in a bigger shell with the buttons and sticks being all in line; but with them being bigger, it causes issues like that. I lean more towards the Satisfye grip more because the handle on the right side is offset and makes them more comfortable.
The problem with any of those grips is they use the defective joycons,which besides being small and uncomfortable for any reasonable size adult hands. Have the worst drift % in controller history. It's not if but when they fail. Which IMO makes any "grip" that relies on joycons 100% useless. Even if it's comfortable,it doesn't fix the biggest issue.
@TheGamerGuy1981
If the joycons work for a period of time, that already goes against your hyperbolic "100% useless" statement lol
Also, A certain percentage doesn't mean all of them will drift during a short amount of time
It just has a higher percentage than other platforms which is unfortunate.. Doesn't mean you need to be an absolute diva about it lol
You can get hall effect sticks for the joycon from gulikit... its not a hugely difficult thing to replace them... just requires a bit of care and precision - and of course the willingness to open up your joycon. I did it to a spare set I had and it was relatively pain free.@@TheGamerGuy1981
My main issue with grips is you still have to use the joycons.😅 I don't like the joycon's buttons and sticks.
@@TheGamerGuy1981 I get that, but I really have not experienced drift on my joycons, and they work for what they are with the grip. I've also opened them up and did some shell swaps so I could replace the sticks with relative ease if I need to.
I had my doubts about the right stick placement as well but i was pleasantly surprised to find that i do not find it uncomfortable. I actually am quite happy with how comfy it is. As a matter of fact it is one of my favorite grips now up there with the satisfye grips. Everybody has different hand sizes and proportions so i knew this was gonna be mixed in recepetion.
Agree completely. The right stick is slightly awkward, but for 95% of games, it's not major issue and you get used to it. In general i think the review is harsh and it's now my go to way of playing in hand held mode. And FYI i play TOTK the most and I barely notice the issue with the right stick even though I use it a lot.
I actually use the right stick with the middle of my thumb usually so it works great!
I have a satisfy for my lite and I just got a steam deck. I think the nitro deck makes the switch a more attractive device along with giving you the satisfaction and nostalgia of a GameCube controller.
Do you have small hands?
There’s definitely a adjustment period but you get used to it. The main reason for this is solid not really breakable controller and it’s nice look/design. I’ve went through 4 or 5 joycons so to me this is way better.
I just got mines yesterday and the right stick placement had me worried. But by the end of the day I got used to it. Definitely worth the buy.
This is my reason I'm holding back, I play Monster Hunter and am really worried it will be too uncomfortable to use.
I preordered a Limited Run glacier version of the deck, and while I’m generally happy with it, I do have a big issue with the placement of the dpad and right stick like you said. I feel like this thing should have had offset controls or at least have the side of the Nitro Deck have an angle like the Satisfye grip to help make it more comfortable.
Nothing really does as good as satisfye, especially if you like HD rumble
There’s actually not a screw behind the kickstand hinge as Alex stated, just a very VERY stubborn clip. It’s pretty difficult to pry apart without risk of breaking your deck.
I got one and I don't have the same issue with the right stick. Maybe I just got used to the joycons but when I've tried using other alternatives with offset sticks, I felt it made the unit feel too wide and thus felt weird. For me at least, I'm fine with the ND's form factor, but I can totally see how it could be an issue for others.
hi! may i ask how long did the switch last using the nitrodeck? this gets power directly to the swotch right so i’d like to know how much it consumes
I received this today and….boy do I wish there was a refund policy. Sadly, I saw this video AFTER mine shipped. The right stick is ridiculously placed. And one thing that was not mentioned was the vibration (the rumbles). So I love animal crossing. I can legitimately not play animal crossing with this thing. Whenever I fish, I feel like I’m being electrocuted each time a fish nibbles on my line. So I thought “maybe I’ll lower the intensity”. You can’t. It’s either on or off. And I certainly can’t fish with it off. So…maybe nobody else has an issue with it…but its intensity is OVER-THE-TOP. I still feel tingling in my fingers from it. 😂 It was not a good purchase for me unfortunately.
It wasnt a good purchase just because of one game you favor? lolol
No no, that was just ONE of the games. I gave what’s called “an example” @@OHKNEECHAN
As for everything else, the right stick placement is terrible.
Willing to sell?
I received my Nitro Deck a few days ago and everything about the controller experience has been tremendously smooth and enjoyable. Now, because I only play a handful of FPS games, I decided to test out a few (including Quake) after Alex stated his case and, sure enough I had no issues or uncomfortableness at ALL.
In fact, they sort of feel (dare I say) intuitively placed?? 😱
I guess everyone’s different and I already know I’m an oddball anyway too..
So sorry Alex! You’re still the best and your charm and wit are easily the reasons I’m subscribed to the channel!
Cheers.
I got mine on Tuesday and I have to say I really like it. I do not find the right stick uncomfortable at all, and I have been playing a lot of Smash on it with no problems playing with that placement. I will say if they make a second generation of this for the current Switch or "new" Switch, then I wouldn't mind them changing the stick placement.
Does the right stick pretty much require claw to make sense? Cuz i am perfectly fine doing so, I usually use my pointer finger for the abxy buttons and rest my thumb in the joystick
I still think Steam Deck has the best layout. Having everything at the top just works, and is the most comfortable handheld layout I've ever used.
Yeah it’s nice but the only probably is it makes the design a lot wider, which is why the steam deck is so big
Button placement on the steam Deck really sucks. Plus no one cares about the touchpads.
@@mvr4t agree about the touchpads and the buttons on the back are trash. But the placement of the sticks aren’t bad
I found the Steam Deck so uncomfortable that I sold it. The ROG Ally though is very comfortable for me.
@@mvr4t The touchpads are the the reason that I won't even consider any of the Steam Deck's competitors. They are amazingly useful for many of the games I play.
As I’m based in Europe my only option was to pre-order the Limited Run Games limited edition because the Nitrodeck initially only was for the US. Except for the 2 limited editions which you could pre-order at LRG. So I did and it arrived this week. The right stick didn’t bother me that much to be honest. For me it was the thickniss of the thing when holding it when playing. Also the hard plastic does give it kind of a slippery grip. It also bothered me a bit that the light of the CRKD-button went on when powered off, that it’s a bit hard to get the device out of the included hardshell case. And the way you turn the Switch on. I am so used to using the home-button to do this. But you can only power it on with the powerbutton on top. Which is slightly uncomfortabel.
So I’m gonna sell mine.
Yeah that stick is a pretty big problem. I find if I naturally move my thumb down to it it ends up with the stick being under the middle of my thumb which isn’t ideal.
I also find for a game like Mario Kart if you quickly release the right shoulder buttons then press them again (to change drift direction) sometimes it doesn’t register because you don’t lift your finger all the way off it, which causes you to crash into walls.
Great review, the Nitro Deck seems to have some niche use cases compared to what we already have available. I think I'll stick to my Hori Splits for a while longer.
Hori split pro has the best right stick placement imo. Up and left where your thumb naturally sits. Feels just like half an Xbox or PS controller- no need to reinvent the wheel
Can they not make a version like the Wii U gamepad? (Both sticks at the top.)
How do i turn off mapping buttons? I always accidentally press it and makes me do random moves
As someone who uses the thumb tip for ABXY and the thumb joint on the stick on this setup, the placement doesn't cause any issues for me. If anything, it can be a neat means of accomplishing plenty of input w/o significantly repositioning the thumb. If that sounds like you, then absolutely get this.
I'm actually really glad that you talked about the right stick placement. I'd been thinking about picking up some sort of alternative controller for handheld, and I had been between this and the Fixture, which would just let me use my existing pro controller. Definitely going to go with that now because an uncomfortable right stick is a dealbreaker
If you don't care too much about rumble and hall effect sticks, I recommend the Hori Split Pad Compact. I have one on my Switch and it feels great. The analog sticks in particular are very nice to use, and the d-pad is solid.
You can even get the Split Pad Compact in a bundle with an attachment that allows you to use it as a wired controller on Switch and PC.
Don't make a mountain out of a molehill. 🤭
@@InJeffable I went with the NexiGo wireless joypad and I freaking love that controller. I was thinking about both the Hori controllers but, ultimately went with the NexiGo. I wanted to buy another set, as I have 2 Switch but, NexiGo no longer makes that model but it's now a different model. I also have the NexiGo GameCube controller and it's pretty good.
Yeah, don’t buy this controller. I received mine today and…ugh, I wish there was a refund policy. The right stick placement is ridiculous.
@@jamies3205you don’t like it?
I wonder if you have something on your Switch that is activating the home button light (Yes, Nintendo's controllers have a light around the home button), and you're only noticing it now because of this dock?
i got mine the other day and it genuinely made me want to play the switch more away from the TV, my switch has been stuck in the dock for the last 5 years almost entirely because of how fragile and wobbly the joycon felt playing in hand held mode, theyre not awful but they just never felt sturdy, whilst the right stick did tick me off a bit, i found that in 75% of games i dont notice and the ones i do, i end up repositioning my hand without thinking and end up holding it comfortably enough.
also playing with it as a standalone controller is pretty cool, i loved the wii u gamepad, one of the comfiest controllers ever in my opinion, and its awsome to have something that feels like that
Does it come with a cord to plug it in as a wired controller? If not, how much would that run? Im assuming like $10?
I have the same “issue” with the positioning of the right thumb stick. I get serious hand cramps within half an hour while playing with the Nitro Deck. Never had this issue with the Hori Split Pads, those have a more “traditional” layout.
I somewhat remedied the issue with the Nitro Deck by remapping the face buttons to the back paddles, so i don’t need to take my thumb of the stick anymore during play sessions. It takes a bit of getting used to, but I can now play for more than half an hour, and it doesn’t get uncomfortable any more.
I still like my Nitro Deck, its feels robust, responsive, the buttons are nice and “clicky” and I like how it looks. I just needed to tweak it a little to make it playable for me, which is a shame.
Does the right stick placement feel similar to a stock Nintendo Joycon?
Does it bug anyone else that the LED home button shines through the bottom of the right rand grip?
I have the black nitro deck and the controls placement are a little strange but it’s not as bad as he’s making it out.
Thankyou
Honestly love it, most comfortable grip I’ve had so far. The right stick is a little awkward to use but after playing for a few hours you kind of adjust to it
Is it good for smash bros
does it have latency? hows the input lag? better or not compared to joycon and procon?
@@Ridgerian It does a little bit but will get worse but if you looking for a good grip get the nyxi Hyperion pro best ergonomics and feeling
@@Ridgerianif you want minimal lag, the Hori split series of controllers is good for that. I play heaps of FPS and it's the most responsive. Pro controller has more lag than the Hori's
@@yobamaismysavior2741 That's what I'm considering it for.
i'd love to have something similar to this, but as someone who experiences genuine discomfort with right stick heavy games on joycons, i'm pretty worried about it. i'd love to hear about alternatives! (or even if others find the right stick here better than on joycons)
If you don't care about using your joy cons, I just got the skull and Co neo grip and it's been amazing and comfortable. It also comes with many different grip types and sizes.
I agree with the right stick location but I would expect the d pad to suffer from the same issue?
I'm really enjoying mine so far took a little getting used to but borderlands plays soo much better now. Definitely recommend using the program able button for your right thumb click. Makes running is games so much more smooth an experience
FYI there’s an ongoing issue with the Nitrodeck having connection issues with OLED model Switches. CRKD will blame your Switch’s USB C port. Tested with 2 decks and 2 Switches, an OG (old and beat up) and an OLED (brand new Tears of the Kingdom version) and go connectivity issues in the OLED with both decks.
I don't get why the right-stick is below the buttons on Switch. Having it above the buttons--Wii U style--would be far more comfortable, IMO.
Anyone having mixed inputs with the gyroscope? Works well with TOTK but other games it seems I have to use a “steering wheel motion” to move the camera left or right.
I cant use my usb c dongle on either ports for my headset it does not recognize it i tried my razer headset and steelseries headset. Anyone else same issue?
I followed the printed instructions on mine and they worked as printed. maybe they updated it? I just got mine a few days ago
I am really digging mine! I don't have a problem with the right stick - I've been playing the Persona games, constantly using both sticks, and have no issues. I wonder if it's just that different hands have different problems with control placement...?
The right stick placement wasn't a problem for me. Its better than the joy cons. I adepted very quickly to it and I actually changed my play style to mainly use the back buttons since you can program them to any button.
Yeah because your probaly play girl games 💅💅
I have one of these. I really like it. I did not find the right stick at all not well placed. I have larger hands so maybe that has something to do with it?
Why can’t we just call the OG switch the…NOLED 🥸
I might start doing that😂
Bro is cooking
Switch/Switch OLED Simple
2017 model is its name
@@Mr.master117The superior model that can be jailbreak with a paper clip. Yes the one and only.
If they make a revision for the Switch 2, either keep the right stick where it is but make the grips wider OR as said in the video make the slightly to the left. As it is now it's fine for games like 3d adventure games like Zelda, Odyssey, or Pokemon where the right stick is meant as a camera readjustment for like half a second but when I tried this with a game like Metroid Prime Remastered which the stick is in use non stop, it's a hassle. I will say though between this, AKNES joycon hall stick, and the 8BitDo Ultimate Controller, these sticks are the smoothest to move them. It's like the sticks have WD40 and don't even have a 1% feeling that there is a dry spot when moving the stick.
Is the output also for a headset, possibly?
I think the right thumb stick is placed like that for the sensor, last I knew (been 10 years since opening a controller) but they were significantly larger then the contact one. I'm waiting on the plus to come out
Been using mine for a few days, I’m really enjoying it. The vibration is my main gripe with it so far
YES! I was wondering if anybody has mentioned the vibration! I play animal crossing and every time I try fishing, I feel like I’m being electrocuted. It’s ridiculous. 😳
I also noticed this was an issue, I just turned it off in the settings as id rather go without than have the thing tazer me for 30 seconds straight in tera raids on pokemon
Overall enjoying my nitro deck, right stick does take some adjustments, but useable after like 5 hours
I can see the right stick thing a little bit.. but I do not like offset sticks anyway. I actually use the back buttons tho and find that it helps not having to reach for the buttons on the face.
I've been looking forward to grabbing this for my Switch since my current protective grip makes it really awkward to access the game slot & those mappable buttons would be great for adding the joystick buttons to.
That stick placement is a bad design choice, why couldn't they just keep them were they are on the Joycons in relation to the buttons?
Buddy what size hands do you have in your country because I can easily get any button easily and you also have back paddles to get those buttons to far away from your tiny hands lol 😅
You can turn off the home button light by tapping the program button at the back.
Great video I really want to like this but have been hesitant due to the price so I’ve held off so I’m glad you have given an honest review.
The output can be use as a controller for pc games so thats great
Not sure what's wrong with mine....it's barely worked since I bought it, mainly the switch won't detect it even after all the troubleshooting
How's the battery drain?
I have to RMA mine for an L button issue but overall don’t hate the placements. I have somewhat large hands but nothing crazy. Order atomic purple which looks pretty, hopefully they can fix my issue
I don’t see the point or the hype around this. It looks no more comfortable than joycons. Hall effect sticks are definitely the future and I hope Nintendo uses them in their next system, but besides that and back buttons, it’s just a less versatile set of joycons fused together. The hori split pads already have back buttons and are cheaper, more ergonomic and have been around forever. As far as Hall effect thumbsticks, you can easily install them into your ioycon for like 20 dollars.
The retroflag also has basically the same exact set of features as crkd for less money, has Hall effect thumbsticks and the build quality is basically identical from everything I’ve read.
I feel like the back paddles would be extremely useful for Xenoblade Chronicles - Definitive Edition, which I just finished yesterday, so I don't need them right now lol
But one of my complaints with that game was that anytime I wanted to lock onto an enemy and choose to engage before sneaking up behind it and doing a Back Slash, I had to walk forward with the left stick and select my Arts with the D-pad... So yeah, those paddles could make it easier to select arts while moving. It's just a shame that Xenoblade is also a game where you want to constantly move the camera, so if I hadn't already beaten Xenoblade, I would probably wait for a redesign on this deck.
I'm here for the D-pad. Do you have any idea how crapped up the D-pad on the Switch Lite is? It sucks, like, a whole lot. So I'm going to take my regular Switch, put it in the Nitro Deck, and use THAT as my Switch Lite.
I've personally not had any issues with the placement of the right pad, but as he mentioned in the video, it most likely becomes noticable with games that use it a lot. I have big hands, so that might also be a reason, but he also seems to have big hands. I hope CRKD sees this video and makes adjustments, like maybe 2 different models that have their current button placements, and one that has the original
I think the CRKD light coming on while the device is off is normal for Switch. I have two joycons with LEDs on the sides and every once in a while they will start to glow for a few moments and turn off on their own.
Think im gonna get that red glacier model although the Kraken one looks very cool as well
I feel like an excellent fix for this problem would be a Wii U esque control stick layout, I still stand by the fact that it is the most comfortable controller I've held
Agreed 👍
The Wii U gamepad was SO GOOD.
Thank you for the thoughtful review! I'll stick to my Hori Split pads.
Since I bought my Hori split pad compact, I never looked back. It's such a perfect product with the perfect size for my hands. And I can dock with it or see the art on the back of the Switch.
Sameee!! And I have the switch OLED so handheld >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love the softer buttons like omg
No rumble otherwise I would have bought it a while ago
@DeathB3foreDawn Very true. There's no other functionality outside of a normal regular controller. The sticks, however, have a perfect tension to play handheld, and the buttons are soft.
If only Nintendo made a full-featured split-pad based of the pro controller. The only 'split-pad' option I still continue to use now is the mobapad m6.
Sounds like this just locks in the design of the Satisfye grip. I know there's ALL kinds of options for adding comfort to the Switch in Handheld mode, but after starting with the Kickstarter Satisfye grip, and subsequent newer models, I've never had to consider any others
Any alternative sir just like nitro deck?
I bought the PAL grey color it looks so clean but I wish the regular grey was in stock.
Would a steam deck case fit this?
I learned that after a while as well. I don't like how close the buttons and sticks are on the Switch. I have big hands and that makes it a little awkward. When you try a few joycon alternatives you find out quickly why Nintendo put the sticks and buttons where they did. It is where they need to be.
Needs some sorta battery or battery bank, for long extended play sessions, especially since that enhances the Nintendo Switch's "short" battery life.
I miss the GBA, GBA SP, and DS Lite era battery life... just chilling listening to game soundtracks.
I have the blue limited run nitro deck. The right sick placement did suck. They should have placed it where the face buttons are.
I only have two questions which are not addressed in many reviews:
1)Does it scratch the switch when putting it on and off often?
2) How does it affect battery life?
Its just a controller so shouldnt affect battery life. Also it looks like the rails are no where near the screen so I couldnt see how it could scratch it.
The right stick is a bit odd but the pros outweigh the cons, making the Nitro Deck a great extension of my switch.
I wonder how the output would do for tournaments. Instead of carrying around a dock with you.
I really appreciate your review. Now I'm more inclined to return mine if I'm feeling the issues that you brought up here.
I also have yet to receive mine and try this out for myself. So who knows? I might love it or hate it. But I know now through your review regarding what I can expect.
Your resilience is truly inspiring! - "Challenges are part of the path..."
Just picked it up and im cramping my hand to fit a good grip to play metroid prime. A bit bummed but i only spent $50 on it
I haven't dabbled into third party alternatives for Switch controllers much, as they all lack the features found in the official ones, even if the real deal alternatives have their problems too. I mean, there is so many options out there that I don't even know what are supposed to be the good ones or even the best ones. Though it is a shame there is none that can make up for the lack of analogue triggers outside the Gamecube controller, which you can't play in handheld mode, and that's a problem for me as I often play in handheld mode!
The response time is great. I started beating bosses and levels I couldn't before immediately when I used it.
Thank you for this. As sleek and cool as the Nitro Deck looks, my main concern was its comfort. I've been using the Satisfye Grip and it has transformed my experience with my Switch. It is an excellent accessory that addresses the ergonomic issues of the Switch. I can't see myself reverting back to an uncomfortable grip position when playing handheld. I'll have to pass on the Nitro Deck.
I have no issues playing on Joycons and even play on the switch lite without any issues. So the nitro deck feels pretty comfy to me. Basically the same as the Joycons but more secure and with full sized sticks
Does it get joy con drift?
Great review. Almost bought this, great that you mentioned about the stick location, because no one else had. Will skip this product.
Thanks I found it helpfull, your video confirms the suspicions I had about it. It just looks great but not the most confortable
Agree with you about the right stick placement and also the D-pad is uncomfortable to use as well. Playing Mario Wonder with this is a nightmare.
I just love how the purple one makes it look like a giant GBA from the front
Output for external controller isn't that weird, it's a pretty great idea for those who might want to travel with their decked switch without having to bring additional controllers, perhaps an unplanned smash tournament on the TV at your friends house would require an additional controller not otherwise available? It's a great and appropriate idea.
I just wish it worked for wired Windows play.
I might actually really like the right stick placement. When I'm using joycons, I don't reach down to use the stick with the tip of my thumb. I kind of use part of my palm, while being able to keep my thumb on the buttons. In many games it actually feels like an _advantage._
I find the stick placement perfect for the already bad switch layout. huge improvement over anything I've tried.
my issue is the battery drain in sleep mode. anyone else?
I was looking at this a few days ago.. not picking one up with that right stick though I get cramp enough off the joycons 😂
Does anyones deck scratches rhe back of the swirch?
I had this preordered, but this review convinced me to hold off - that awkward right stick placement is a deal-breaker, especially for the price!
I absolutely love mine, this review is honestly nonsense.
I own retroflag, hor split pad pro, nxyi, 8bitpro ultimate, and this is easily the best and my favorite. Honestly the right stick placement is perfect for bigger hands. No regrets at all.
Will they let you cancel the preorder?
@@brantlisk786 I preordered through Amazon and since the product's not out till later this month they cancelled the order no problem
@@moe282I have 0 problems with mine,
@@brantlisk786I think he's trapped and never to be seen again. Rip. :(
Yup. That one stick position issue is the one thing that kept me from purchasing this product and I havent heard many reviewers mention this problem at all. I heard one brief mention of it and judging by looks, i knew it would be uncomfortable to use that stick. Thanks for reaffirming!
Buy the NYXI Hyperion pro instead I promise you you won’t regret it
@@yobamaismysavior2741 Ill look into it thanks
The straight up down design is awful. It's awful on OEM, and it's awful on these.
Returning mine because of the right stick. Darn shame as I love everything else about it. Ended up getting the Hori split pad pro and that feels way better. Oh well, hopefully the next one will be better!
How much is it?
I really like my purple Nitro Deck. Placement of the right stick prevents me from playing Splatoon 3 with it unfortunately. So no Side order on the train for me next year. Any game without heavy use of the right stick is great with it though.
Sucks the output port can’t trick the switch into running in docked mode while in handheld.
I swear after I started using this controller I just couldn’t it made me realize how bad I treated my joycons my joycons feel bad but at least the control placements are complete poop
One solution that I think would work is making the kickstand extendable or something, that way we can get more suitable viewing angles...
The problem with the home button lighting up after putting the switch in sleep mode is kind of annoying, but I found that hitting the program button once after putting the switch in sleep mode stops it from turning on. You've gotta do it every time though...
Note that every review is individual perspective, not law.
I've been playing Dragons Dogma on it and I love it (back buttons).
Ejecting the switch is troublesome because it doesnt pop out.
The NOLED DOES fit.... I can and have used for both.
Its not perfect, needs work and if a v2 came out i may indulge.
Thank you for pointing out the right stick issue, that's definitely a dealbreaker for me. Saved myself a disappointment and some money!