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  • @mariobnicole8669
    @mariobnicole8669  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @davidpemberton3720
    @davidpemberton3720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Caesar is important because he was the transition from Republic to Empire.

    • @krakon6565
      @krakon6565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He wrote a war journal during his fight with Gaul that is amazing historical reading to.

    • @k.v.7681
      @k.v.7681 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      To take with a grain of salt. But yeah, that doucment has historical importance. I would argue the reason for his reputation today is also due to the fact that he's the one that conquered the west of Europe, making him "more important" to the western world than others. I'm not sure he is that popular in, let's say, northern Africa.

    • @krakon6565
      @krakon6565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@k.v.7681 Yes, well Western Europe, the area where France is today, was primarily Gaul. Then after that he somewhat conquered Germany, then the complete Southern portion of the UK. The argument could also be made that much of his reputation today comes from The Tragedy of Julius Caesar, written by William Shakespeare.

    • @Ari33sa
      @Ari33sa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@krakon6565 Yeah I'd say big reason for his reputation is probably shakespeare. Even with his conquest of Gaul I doubt anybody could objectively say that Caesar was more impactful than Augustus. Yet he seems to be far more famous ... (not that augustus is unknown)

    • @alexandremarques3265
      @alexandremarques3265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro he's speaking of Auguste Cesar. Who s like a napoleon.he promoted the values of a Republic but made an empire

  • @berno8535
    @berno8535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Caesar isn't famous because of Cleopatra, it's actually quite the opposite in fact. Caesar is the one who took the Egyptian throne from her brother Ptolemy and gave it to her. He is very important because of that, because he conquered Gaul with crazy and impressive tactics, won a civil war that would evolve the Republic into the Empire and for many civil projects and other conquests in that 4 year period of leadership. He's definitely one of the most important individuals in Roman history.

    • @benthomas4426
      @benthomas4426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd say in all of history

    • @TheJthom9
      @TheJthom9 ปีที่แล้ว

      He has been deemed the greatest man ever to live

  • @adlerzwei
    @adlerzwei 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I so amazing how advanced the Romans were 2000 years ago.

    • @ragnar97
      @ragnar97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      And so sad how most of that knowledge was lost, sending Europe into the dark ages.
      I often wonder about how advanced our society would be if we had kept on advancing instead of wasting centuries.

    • @TheQeltar
      @TheQeltar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Orange Man Rome didn't collapse due to Christianity.

    • @RikThunder33
      @RikThunder33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@TheQeltar No. but it sure as heck didn't help

    • @SuperLusername
      @SuperLusername 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@RikThunder33 so what if it didnt help? Neither did all the pagan religions before it. It was the Christian monasteries that saved all the ancient Greek and Roman knowledge and history in their books.

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ragnar97
      The myth of the 'dark ages'... that's simply not true.
      Christian countries were just old roman provinces that inherited the old empire legacy. I'm talking about the Western empire, because the Eastern empire survived until XV century.

  • @danieled.4582
    @danieled.4582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ... think of the luck of living in Italy and literally walking on history every day.
    Western civilization was born here (and also reborn with the Renaissance).
    Saluti dall'Italia! ❤

  • @heroiam4067
    @heroiam4067 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    lol This is madness, julius caesar is the most popular for good reasons, he conquered most of the territory the empire had (have you seen how much the map expanded while he was general?) no other ruler or general extended the empire that much...He ruled only 4 years because before that he was only a general, since he was 16 or something he was in the military..
    He defeated the gauls and the germans, basically france and germany, the 2 thoughest enemies at the time, without him europe would not be what it is today at all.
    emperors that reigned for more years took way less risks and did so in times of peace of course.. seems quite obvious

  • @vMufasa
    @vMufasa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Marcus Aurelius is by far my favorite roman emperor, I have a copy of his "Meditations" definitely worth reading!

    • @dino6912
      @dino6912 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i read it too it's great!

    • @alexandremarques3265
      @alexandremarques3265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A shame that his son was an asshole

    • @Max-pj4ok
      @Max-pj4ok 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexandremarques3265 yea unfortunately his son ruined it

  • @Erra88
    @Erra88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    the roman empire was impressive. they laid the foundation stone in so many ways

  • @thomasdemay9805
    @thomasdemay9805 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ceasar is famous not because of Cleopatra but because his accomplishments were so great. Most of those were before he was Emperor so thats why his reign was only 4 years. But conquering Gaul which was Romes biggest enemy after Carthage was destroyed, Establishing the Empire, defeating Pompei is pretty significant. Before the civil War Rome was ruled by a council of 3 which was the richest man and the top 2 generals Pompei and Ceasar so he was in big role before being officially the Emperor. The one who is really famous because of Cleopatra isn't Ceasar but Marc Antony. Compared to Ceasar Marc Antony is a nobody. Julius Ceasar is generally considered one of the greatest generals of all time. In the top class of Military Generals like Cyrus the Great, Alexander the Great, Hannibal, Scipio (the Roman who defeated Hannibal), Trajan (talked about in this video), Attila the Hun, Charlamagne, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Fredrick the Great etc

  • @TheProdiga1One
    @TheProdiga1One 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Caesar was never officially an emperor, his title was dictator for life. The first emperor was his grand nephew Octavian, later Augustus.

  • @casslane3932
    @casslane3932 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    id highy recomend watching the series ROME its realy good and will show the human side you rarely learn of in history

    • @mikelarsen5836
      @mikelarsen5836 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably be beyond their meagre intellect.

  • @Gittoplo
    @Gittoplo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Caesar was the original bad boy with the most epic story. He ruled for 4 years but all the destruction happened before his rule! He was the most talented, as statesman and general.

  • @marksullivan2978
    @marksullivan2978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Rome allowed a slave to become even wealthier than his former owner.

  • @vMufasa
    @vMufasa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow! I love this video... I cant believe anyone did a reaction to it! I've watched it several times before... btw came from your reaction of how big is the universe and the history of the world, both of which I watched some dozens of reactions on... and just couldn't believe someone did a reaction on this Video! subscriber for life now lol!

  • @mohammedyahya5838
    @mohammedyahya5838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Its not strictly true that Nero was the one to cause the great fire of Rome, as Tacitus says something about how the cause of the fire was never really discovered, there were just suspicions that it was Nero

    • @3AMJH
      @3AMJH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Also it is difficult to know whether the "bad" emperors were really as bad as Roman historians say, or if they are just giving them a bad name because of political reasons.

    • @mohammedyahya5838
      @mohammedyahya5838 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@3AMJH yeh that may be true, which is evident through Tacitus' account of Tiberius' reign, as he slated him severely as s way of almost undermining Domitions' reign

    • @pariahstat2683
      @pariahstat2683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Out of a dozen fires that burned Rome everybody remembers Nero even though he didn't burn it - Tacitus was blabbering his nonsense and accusing every person he didn't like of lunacy

    • @pedrosarti9468
      @pedrosarti9468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This whole video (not the reaction, the original one) is the manifesto of inaccuracy.

  • @borghorsa1902
    @borghorsa1902 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video and your reactions !

  • @meganoob12
    @meganoob12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nero didn't set fire to rome and played his harp to the blazing flames. That was a myth that was created by the contemporary romans to blame him. You see, he was really unpopular among the roman citizens, because he was very wasteful and not concerned with governmental issues at all.
    Most historians agree that he wasn't even in the city at the time the great fire of rome happened. I think he was at his countryside residence outside of rome. There are other conflicting eyewitness accounts that Nero supposedly was in the city, but when he saw the inferno he was supposedly seen helping to fight the flames. But most likely he wasn't even there.
    Also the religion of Constantine is a highly debated topic. We don't really know his true believes, but although he won thanks to the support of Christians and made Christianity an equal religion, to his deathbed he never openly said that he was christian, nor did he convert.
    Now my take on him is more pragmatic. To become sole ruler and roman Emperor he had to win a huge battle against an adversary as stated in the video. His adversary actually had the bigger and stronger army at the time. By pretending to have a vision of a cross he planned to pull the Christians on his side and into his Legions. I supposed he promised them to make their religion equal in exchange for the "throne".
    I believe that Constantine never believed in christianity at all. His goal from the start was power and to rule over a united roman empire. Thus he used Christianity as a leaver to lift him into the throne. I think never really cared about christians. But by making Christianity equal he accidentally cleared the path for the victory of Christianity and the spread in Europe and eventually into the world by colonization.

  • @firstname4476
    @firstname4476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The reasons Cesar was so famous , was because he started as a simple soldier and rises to the high of absolute power . Also the battle of alesia was one of the greatest examples of roman tactics and engineering. The way he died is also a legendary lesson stabbed in the back by people he would have call friends and family, shows even back then there is nothing someone won’t do to take power .

  • @Luigi.Russo.Schneider
    @Luigi.Russo.Schneider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Italy was the center of culture and
    civilization ..
    Paris was an uncultivated field
    London a swamp and Berlin a forest.
    and it would take the US another 2500 years to
    appear on earth :)

  • @noemotion7689
    @noemotion7689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the narrator's voice tho.
    Nice video reaction !

  • @henrichvonruben9114
    @henrichvonruben9114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Could you image what a colonial power house Rome would have been had it not fallen or if it was still around today?

    • @julianusvictor327
      @julianusvictor327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I often do, its such a shame that Rome fell and all that knowledge was lost.

    • @anitathakur9340
      @anitathakur9340 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@julianusvictor327 ugh no actually there was very little innovation by romans sure they made some grand structures but due to their over dependence of slaves they didn't innovate and made new machines as their was no need for them, fall of the roman empire actually helped in innovations in the long run.
      Edit: i change my opinion a bit they sure were innovative but their socital structure led to downfall

    • @jaredhomola3066
      @jaredhomola3066 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anitathakur9340 not to mention the pissed off the Jews Christians and Arabs 😂

    • @anitathakur9340
      @anitathakur9340 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaredhomola3066 umm no i think it would have been better without Christianity and you have to give them credit for not being raciests, many arab were also emperors as well there

    • @jaredhomola3066
      @jaredhomola3066 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anitathakur9340 lol the reason they became Christian is because they pissed them off and got reprimanded by the masses… and Arabic emperor were the racist ones persecuting saxons and blondes so it just proves that they were racist in particularly the people who seem to think of as victims are actually brutal killer since the martial skill of Tamerlane

  • @binxbolling
    @binxbolling 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After Julius, many emperors called themselves "Caesar."

  • @MikeGill87
    @MikeGill87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Caesar is the best known because he did put out a book; or rather a few books. That's the way to do it.

  • @HugsNotDrugs07
    @HugsNotDrugs07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know I'm late on this by about a year and a half but most of the Great achievements of Julius Caesar happened before he had marched on Rome and even then he would fight for a few years after in order to take complete control so thats why they say Caesar was only ruler for 4 years.

  • @Bargadiel
    @Bargadiel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's interesting about Nero is that it is possible that he wasn't as bad as we think. Remember who writes history. Lots of political opponents did not like Nero, but it is likely that he had a high approval rating via roman citizens.

  • @krakon6565
    @krakon6565 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did I miss the mention of Gaius Caesar (Caligula)? I don't recall him being mentioned in the video...

    • @likeriver
      @likeriver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The emperor in the video that wanted to make his horse consul was Caligula.

    • @krakon6565
      @krakon6565 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@likeriver ty

  • @giannipellegrini2178
    @giannipellegrini2178 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, that is just HALF the history of Rome. The city's history followed as the spiritual capital of the Roman Catholic Christianism, as well, for a few century, as an important (even if not as populated as in the past) city of the so-called Bizantine Empire: but we should not forget that Bizantines never called themselves as such, they called themselves Romans or, for the State, Eastern Roman Empire. This one lasted till 1453, about a millennium more than Western Roman Empire. So, 1453 is the year of the fall of the State founded by the Romans.

  • @TheBatchingis
    @TheBatchingis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video summerized : "huh.."

  • @williamjordan8603
    @williamjordan8603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman) finally fell to the Ottoman Turks in 1643. The Ottoman Empire finally fell after World War 1 in 1918 and was divided up into Turkey, Iraq, Syria, etc.

    • @Krafanio
      @Krafanio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1453*.

  • @williamjordan8603
    @williamjordan8603 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Augustus was also called Caesar. And the word led to the Russian Tsar and German Kaiser.

    • @julianusvictor327
      @julianusvictor327 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its also why European monarchs would be crowned kings and would generally refrain from claiming the title of emperor as it was respected that that title was reserved for the glorious ruler of the Holy Roman Empire however the Russians did not respect this and after the fall of the HRE the Germans used Kaiser

    • @pedrosarti9468
      @pedrosarti9468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Augustus was called Caesar because he was his adoptive son (Iulius Caesar Octavianus later called Augustus). The others emperors, starting from Tiberius, took the name Caesar from Augustus.

  • @livebreatheeatfitnessco.4146
    @livebreatheeatfitnessco.4146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greeks learned a lot from expeditions and voyages south

  • @philipcochran1972
    @philipcochran1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    dominus as in dominate

  • @Mondy667
    @Mondy667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm

  • @megavideopowermegavideopow8657
    @megavideopowermegavideopow8657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And they are back the revived Roman Empire is the current European Union

    • @ragnar97
      @ragnar97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol in what way exactly?

    • @michaelthompson7081
      @michaelthompson7081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't the European Union mostly controlled by germeny? Last time I checked the Romans were not germeny.

    • @Finnofenno
      @Finnofenno 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelthompson7081 Germany doesn't control the union, they have 99 seats compared to France's 72 for an example. Fun fact: Germany was home to one of the major heirs of the Romans; the Holy Roman Empire

    • @michaelthompson7081
      @michaelthompson7081 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Finnofenno Which european country has the most power in the european union?

    • @Finnofenno
      @Finnofenno 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelthompson7081 Germany. But the fact that Germany has a bit more power doesnt mean that eu 'is controlled by Germany"
      Thats like saying California controls USA

  • @SisterofBattle
    @SisterofBattle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay you guys got +1 sub from Russia

    • @igorsenin
      @igorsenin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ха мммм ооо аха хммм ааа оууу окэй э хе ммммм мм уху ууу хыы вааау оооо хооо

    • @lorenzoorati3139
      @lorenzoorati3139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Почему ты так говоришь как будто бы сука будет

  • @pelopidasalexis6943
    @pelopidasalexis6943 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Romans believed to be Trojan refugees of war..So they believed to be Greeks, so they conquered the "rest" of Greece i guess, they kept the same gods with different names and developed what they wanted from ancient Greece even more.

  • @stevebardella_farm-nature7bis
    @stevebardella_farm-nature7bis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    only 20 minutes to tell the story of Ancient Rome, the story of a civilization that was born in 753 BC. - 476 AD more than 1000 years of history, a gamble I would say, to tell US history, from 1776, 245 years a snap of your fingers?

  • @elreydelanorte3232
    @elreydelanorte3232 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the people were “horrible” but they created the basics of our life today so yea

  • @joelo6516
    @joelo6516 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    no run away slaves at all let alone the same idea of a slave

  • @eduardogutierrez4698
    @eduardogutierrez4698 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, make video like this reacting to Dovahhatty videos

  • @michaelthompson7081
    @michaelthompson7081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I love how they just ignore that the downfall of Rome was caused by immigration

    • @Finnofenno
      @Finnofenno 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It wasn't though. Immigration isn't even the right word for the most part because these were entire tribes moving south due to climate cooling often raiding and forming new nations on roman territory.
      The fall of rome was caused by hundreds of factors like corruption and economic stagnation.

    • @michaelthompson7081
      @michaelthompson7081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Finnofenno Thanks for informing me.

    • @henrichvonruben9114
      @henrichvonruben9114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Immigration wasn't the only factor but it was a big one. And it's happening all over again today. A large influx of outsiders being brought to someone else's home (country) is NEVER a good idea

    • @michaelthompson7081
      @michaelthompson7081 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@henrichvonruben9114 Why did you feel the need to comment that after T S explained that migration wasn't the only factor?

    • @henrichvonruben9114
      @henrichvonruben9114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelthompson7081 because I saw your comment, I wanted to reply so I did. So sorry

  • @grimmlight4541
    @grimmlight4541 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    God the Romans were vastly ahead of their time. It would be incredible how the world would of been if they succeeded. As usual empire fall due to immigration.

    • @julianusvictor327
      @julianusvictor327 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you mean as usual an empire fell to immigration? which other empires did this happen to?

    • @grimmlight4541
      @grimmlight4541 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Julianus Victor Ours soon.

    • @julianusvictor327
      @julianusvictor327 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grimmlight4541 Who is ours?

    • @-scrim
      @-scrim 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@julianusvictor327 The United States.

    • @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046
      @palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@-scrim not rly - i aint american but like, that obv wont happen lol

  • @anikborat8070
    @anikborat8070 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ceaser granted cleopetra the throne of egypt as sort of a lovers gift before that it was under her brother ptolemy.....he's also he transition of Rome from Republic to an empire and he's also one of the most successful generals responsible for conquering the most land....he wasn't famous from nothing...
    Cleopetra is nothing compared to him

    • @julianusvictor327
      @julianusvictor327 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is not true Cleopatra was a masterful statesman and charismatic leader and was by all accounts very intelligent perhaps even more so that Caesar which is why he was so impressed with her, also she was able to speak at least 8 languages which is amazing even in modern day. She was certainly not "nothing compared to him".

  • @duncan3998
    @duncan3998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ?

  • @cosminxxx5287
    @cosminxxx5287 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    republic comes from rei publica .publica is people and rei is king or leadership.so its somekind of democracy that comes from grece and means power of the people (demos-people cartos-power). republic is form of leadership and democracy is the philosophy behind it.in other words having a republican party and a democratic party is simply retarded since the basic ideea is the same we just removed some of the particularities from each to make them seem diferent when in fact they born the same :the ideea of leading a country with a group of people elected by the people that work for the people.

  • @megavideopowermegavideopow8657
    @megavideopowermegavideopow8657 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh yeah ancient Rome even had a 8ft tall giant Maximinus as a Roman Emperor Maximinus of Thrace Google him see what he was capable of

  • @Krafanio
    @Krafanio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is about the Roman Empire until the fell of the west side but the Roman Empire actually die in 1453 to the Ottoman Empire.
    The term "Byzantine" was a term create by the people of the HRE (Holly "Roman" Empire) to mock the real Roman Empire that by that time has already be dead by more than 100 years.
    They never call themselves anything else but Romans and their empire the Roman Empire.
    Just adding.

  • @Foundingmother1
    @Foundingmother1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    have no idea of what your saying.

  • @mickeydrennan1576
    @mickeydrennan1576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Caesar" (Kai-Sar) is Latin for "emperor".

    • @Dell-ol6hb
      @Dell-ol6hb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Horace Pinkerton no it was only referred to as meaning emperor because of Julius Caesar.

    • @mickeydrennan1576
      @mickeydrennan1576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Dell-ol6hb Classical Latin student here. Caesar was used for many rulers of Rome. Augustus to Hadrian. It's a title,not a name.

    • @ragnar97
      @ragnar97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a spaniard I can confirm. Caesar was a title not a name. Augustus, Caligula, Nero, Tiberius, etc were all Caesars. At some pointit was a position reserved for times of need. In those times all the powers would be transferred to a single person so that action could be taking swiftly but it was only supposed to last a few months. Julius Caesar made himself permanent Caesar taking advantage of the fact he had been given full power, unless I'm mixing stuff.
      Simply put, the position of Caesar existed before Julius Caesar, Caesar was just happened to also be his surname. Same as being called StephenKing doesn't mean neither that you are a king nor that the position was named after you.

    • @SaunaFinland
      @SaunaFinland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mickeydrennan1576 It was a name that was later adopted as a title. But when Gaius Julius Caesar was named, it was just a name, or cognomen specifically (third name). The title Caesar used as ruler was Imperator.

    • @mickeydrennan1576
      @mickeydrennan1576 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaunaFinland When you get a minor in Classical Latin you can have this conversatiin with me.

  • @yivan647
    @yivan647 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol ancient rome and now is not that much different... The west roman empire fell because of huge flood of people coming in, not much different now too.... Millions of refugees coming in i think the new roman empire aka EU will fall again how sad

  • @henrichvonruben9114
    @henrichvonruben9114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you image what a colonial power house Rome would have been had it not fallen or if it was still around today?

    • @sota_59
      @sota_59 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It had no chance to last, look at Austria-Hungary

    • @hullmees666
      @hullmees666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sota_59 not the same thing. being roman had very little to to with ethnicity. they mostly had the same culture throughout the empire.

    • @julianusvictor327
      @julianusvictor327 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hullmees666 You only need to look at the holy roman empire, it would've fallen eventually.

  • @dave6386
    @dave6386 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm