Hobby Cheating 200 - Miniature Painting Techniques
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- In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through the major techniques of miniature painting - how you get paint on the miniature and talk about the pros an cons of each technique and how it might match up with your own preferences. Hope you enjoy!
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Happy #200 Vince! May your next 200 be as informative as the last.
Wow, setting me on the road to 400 right away. :) - I think we can get there for sure.
I find it funny how washes are called "traditional technique". When I started 14-15 years ago, only really highly skilled painters used washes and they made them themselves. GW had even discontinued their washes in 1990's (I've tried them earlier this year and well... they're a lot different than modern washes), they only had inks and washing with them looked horrible, but then GW released their new washes and revolutionized miniature painting. But yeah, it's traditional technique these days. Great video!
Yes, depending on when you started, it's certainly far from traditional. :) - That being said, it's become so and sort of the standard learning method now given most people's entrance into the hobby.
I have learned so much from watching you videos. Thank you for making these and hope you make many more!
I have no plan of stopping anytime soon. :)
Congrats on making it to 200! Just full of useful information. One of the best!
Excellent, glad it was helpful and always happy to assist. :)
Thank you so much Vince for doing this. It's so helpful knowing the right terminology when talking about a specific technic. Love it!!!
I can't promise this is what everyone uses, this community is famous for it's unique verbiage, but this is as close as I can get to generally accepted terms.
Thank you for the enormous amount of time and effort that went into this series so far, and may it continue to be as educational and engaging in the future.
Thank you, there are still so many more videos I want to do, so we will continue a long time. :)
I absolutely love how you breakdown how paints work, and how to make them work better with other colors. I feel like I learn not only about the colors/techniques but the ‘science ‘ behind it as well. I never realized there was this many techniques! Thank you for your work.
Thank you, happy to help as always and so glad to hear it's assisting. :)
I honestly don't think I'd have gotten as good as I have without your videos! They're an essential reference tool for me whenever I'm painting. Here's to another 200 videos!
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Thank you Vince! I've improved dramatically with the help of your videos. I don't have many people around me who I can learn from and it's great to see what I have been doing wrong these past years and knowing ways I can improve now.
That's awesome, I am very happy to hear it's helpful and helping you take the next step on your hobby journey.
Um actually...
Love your videos Vince! Keep it up man! You've definitely helped out the community big time and you've definitely given me advice personally that I am grateful for ❤
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Congrats on 200 Vince, please keep making awesome content!!!
I'm not going anywhere anytime soon (as far as I know at least.) ;)
lovely video my man and congrats on 200! I've learned a lot from watching these since I started painting about a year ago now
Thank you, happy to help as always and happy to reach this milestone for sure. :)
This was so awesome and cleared up a lot of confusing/conflicting info. Thanks, Vince!
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
I started the Hobby about 3 Months ago now and your videos have been a constant companion. Thanks a lot Vince!
That's wonderful and happy to help as always. :)
excellent vid as always, finding this channel was without a doubt the single biggest jump in my skill. keep up the great work man!
Excellent to hear and always happy to help. :)
200 in this series, plus the many other videos and live streams. Your commitment alone is inspiration, but the content is great. Best of luck as you continue on your hobby journey.
Thank you, that is much appreciated and always happy to help.
Yay to 200 great videos, Vince! Thank you for sharing your journey in painting like you do. I'm looking forward to styles (and analysis of minis - like you did in an episode some time back, and you also approach when you look at minis that people submit).
Yep, we will definitely have a big style discussion. It's a little tougher as there are almost as many styles as there are artists (as in the end, it's people speaking in their own voice through the paint), but I think we can find a way to have some broad discussions.
@@VinceVenturella Lovely! Looking forward to that one too. ;-)
Congratulations on the 20th Dr Vince you are a wonderful help to many.
Looking ford to #300
Absolutely, the march to 300 begins. :)
Thank you Vince...most informative and now not so much in the dark
Always happy to help
Thank you Vince! Congrats on 200!
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
Congrats :D
That was an interesting break down and also interesting how you decided to chop and group the techniques. I would almost call them different "schools" somehow. When it started I was expecting you to have a bit more air time on "wet techniques" which there are more than I can count under that banner. There was also the random noise techniques I was missing a little (stippling, sponges, broken brushes, brush strokes, random paint application, pigments, etc).
Yeah, it was really a look at schools, I think that's right. I was fascinated to speak to people about the broader steps taken from primer to finished miniature, rather than speak on any individual process (i.e. the type of blending). The random noise is an interesting point (especially as it relates to finishing where I am talking about glazing).
This video for me was like a summary of the last 2 years of watching Vinces' videos, in half an hour. Thanks.
Awesome, glad it was enjoyed. :)
You're a paragon, Vince. I can't thank you enough for all the lessons!
Thank you, that is much appreciated and I am always happy to help.
Congrats on 200. You have had a great influence on the hobby
Thank you, always happy to help. :)
200?! You are a glorious machine dude! Loved the breakdown and differentiation of techniques.
Thank you, this was a fun one for sure.
Congrats on #200! Thank you for all the helpful instruction
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
Lol I remember my first wash.
Or my early dry brushing attempts
I remember rattlecan painting a box of Empire Knights and then dry brushing the whole model with leadbelcher, and then just being super happy because it looked like it had depth and like I was suddenly master painter
Yep, those early successes are really important, they speed us along to keep going and push to the next step. :)
Congrats on the 200th Hobby Cheating Video! Love the series. Could you do a list/review of other painters that have youtube/blogs/patreon, etc....
A few of these guys I didn't know about and its always good to have more sources.
That's a great idea for a video, I am slowly doing it through the interview with an Artist, so if nothing else, I will tackle it there.
Congratulations on the milestone Vince!
Thank you, it's great to have them all out there.
Well done.
I like these theoretical videos on occasion. Additional topics could include the reason for highlights and shadow and understanding contrast and making something pop.
Wish you would teach in Texas.
Digging into contrast would be an excellent one for sure. I did teach in Texas once this year and I am sure I will be back in 2020. :)
Great Video, like the more lecture style approach! Thanks for the mention too and grats to winning just about everything at GenCon :D
Thank you to both sir. I like to do these every so often, not sure they are really going to be the most popular, but I hope they are at least helpful, especially for newer folks who can often get lost thinking that GW's methods are the only way to paint.
true!
200! Fantastic achievement . Loved this one!
Thank you Bethany, very much appreciated. :)
Congratulations 🎉 on 200 good sir. I'm honestly traditional but no have an airbrush and am pushing my envelope.
Excellent, always good to experiment and try different techniques and see what ends up suiting your personal style.
Great video. Great content, clear and concise
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Great video, looking forward to the video on styles.
It will be fun for sure. It may be a little while but I am looking forward to it.
I think you were running in parallel with one of the other classes in Texas, we have Andrea, Scale75, and Reaper sponsoring classes throughout the year. I was already registered for one when I found you were teaching.
Thanks for all the hard work of producing these videos. Hope to get a class with you in the future.
Yes, I do believe that was the case, I am sure we will come back, it was a great venue and I'd like to come back there again.
I appreciat the time you take on your videos. I struggle quite a bit with an airbrush even after a couple years of use. I'll try out Angel's books you recommended.
They really are a great resource and have lots of good tips.
Thank you for all your work. GREAT VIDEOS
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
Great work, as always!
Thank you, very much appreciated.
Cheers on 200 episodes! Here's to many more to come :)
Absolutely, the road to 300 has begun. :)
Congratulations! Quite the milestone.
Thank you, it's great to reach the milestone for sure. :)
Thanks for all you teach us plebs. Can we get a video on how to approach overly busy\detailed models? Guillaman is the perfect example. Another example would be thousand sons from the 40k range.
What a great idea for a video. This is one of my pet peeves too, overly busy models. I will add that to the list and think about it.
The combination of text with video helps so much. I’d love a mini painting PowerPoint from you, Vince.
Thanks, I am sure there will be more powerpoints to come. :)
Next time someone asks what I'm doing, I'll just explain that it's sort of like soup and hopefully they'll understand. :D
Thanks/congrats for the 200 vids!!
Painting with soup, the best new technique of 2019. ;)
Congratulations on the 200th episode! And many thanks for all the work you put into this series.
Thank you and happy to help as always. :)
Happy 200!
Thank you, it was a great milestone, we're well on our way to 300. :)
Good lord, I believe i've watched all 200 of these. Am i better painter? ...No. However, i'm the tiniest fraction better at glazing, i think. But then again, i'm an army painter, with just a little interest into local painting comps. The biggest takeaway that i've gotten from these 200 shows, was the sketch style. The sketch/speed style opened ALOT of doors for me, when it came to painting massive blocks of troops. And its even quicker than airbrushing my basecoats, getting the transitions on my primary colors, and then brushing out the details. I hope that someday, i can attend a class, and try to learn how to really do that value sketch technique, along with learning how to efficiently glaze.
Thank you for coming along with me on the journey and if you are leaning stuff and it's making you happier with what your achieving when painting (whether speed or quality, or whatever), then you are taking the right steps. Always happy to help. :)
wonderful video!
i thought after reading the title that you would describe "techniques" like glazing, nmm, tmm, washing, edge highlighting, osl, drybrushing, feathering, wet blending... would you be willing to give a sort of overview of these "techniques"? so that i as a newbie can get an idea of what is even possible to do with a brush?
Well, the Hobby Cheating playlist is your guide here, I have lots of videos on each of the things you mention, I go into detail on all of the techniques you mention.
I’m interested in the Grim Dark style. I think it’s really interesting.
Yeah, the style is going to be very interesting as a video for sure, as there are so many styles out there, it will be fun to group them.
You're a true hero!
Thank you, that's very much appreciated and always happy to help. :)
Love the videos! Could you do a video or point me to some tips on cleaning up your painting? I feel confident painting monsters and things like that but when I get to something like a space marine where everything is super smooth it doesn’t look good.
My best advice is to watch the Achieving Smooth Blends video and How to Glaze video, when it comes to smoothing on smaller miniatures, this is usually the last steps.
Vince Venturella okay thanks a lot! Love your work!
Interesting as usual!
Thank you, very much appreciated. :)
Yeah, a year ago it seemed like everything I painted ended up with an abundance of pastel colors all over it..(poorly executed sketch style) and gradually over time my style evolved to be more saturated (properly executed sketch style).
This happened organically as I learned more and more about how to use contrast more effectively, made mistakes and learned from them, etc.
Then you look back a year ago to what you did and marvel at how it looks like it was painted by a completely different person than yourself.
I experience this all the time, it's wonderful to take steps on your hobby journey and occasionally take a look back.
Your the reason why my minis look better thank you as I am literally a new painter
That's awesome to hear and thank you, always happy to help. :)
An awesome video in an awesome series by an awesome artist. Any preliminary thoughts on the Pro Acryl Color Set 2 and/or Transparents Set?
Loving them so far, A review will be forthcoming in the next few weeks.
@@VinceVenturella That's enough for me to pull the trigger. I've gone to the CC store several times and resisted the urge to buy all of them, but my resolve is weakening... Thanks for the quick reply!
The strange thing is that there is no tutorial in existence (to my knowledge) where a WH40K Ultramarine is painted in zenithial using the recommended GW paints. If anyone has got a formula to get Mccragge Blue by GW to get it to Vallejo Ink consistency you've got a friend for life !
The precise colors drift across years and gaming systems. Citadel changed their entire paint range a while ago, and the old Ultramarines Blue is not the same as the new Macragge Blue (their own conversion chart lists Altdorf Blue as the new analogue). Also, Horus Heresy Ultramarines seem to have a slightly darker hue to them. So it doesn't really matter which exact blue color you paint them, it will be as "official" as what GW is doing anyway.
@@p_serdiuk yes I've noticed that the old ultramarine gw paint scheme is a lighter blue. I guess if you want consistency and your paint colour to not be discontinued go for Vallejo. I am asking around because I actually attempted zenithial by thinning down Macrqgge blue with Vallejo matte medium and the result was disappointing, still opaque or overly bright in areas. Dunno how to do it so it looks great. That's why I would love someone out there to do a video, when you have 120 ultramarines to paint the 'eavy metal style of painting is not an option.
Yeah, my best advice is if you are going for an ultramarine blue with a glaze you want a darker blue. It will naturally be lighter and more transparent showing the undercoat of the white.
@@VinceVenturella yeah Vince for the ultramarines I have painted I use white primer as after I thin with a bit of distilled water and W&N flow Improver it gets exactly the right shade of macrsgge blue I like much nicer than using a grey or black primer. The colour of the primer is so important for subsequent thin coat colours applied.
great video Vince , could you try to have James Wappel on interview with the artist ? could be interesting considering he uses oils and acrylics for his works
I spoke to James this weekend and we are going to set up a time. :)
@@VinceVenturella AMAZING
So I am thinking of getting a few contrast paints but I am looking for more useful colors that work with normal paints. So if you only could pick 5 contrast paints to add to your tool box what would they be? 10? Again not looking to do models all in contrast just part, like the fur on a model or maybe the skin to make it a bit easier.
Fyreslayer Flesh, Iyanden Yellow, Gryph Hound Orange, Akhelian Green and the Black. Those are quite useful in a broad range of situations.
Thanks, Vince! My paint game has vastly improved due to you.
The one thing I struggle with, again and again, is glazing! It's so confusing, or should I say so many variables from "how much to thin", "brush too wet", "brush too dry", "unable to visualize end result", "rough transitions". So I'll get frustrated and jump to dry brushing instead and even that will look like ass!!
Perhaps I'm pushing myself too hard too soon. I just can't seem to make smooth blends. So I'll go back to GW basics for a bit ...and then try again, and fail. Ugh! I just wish you would make a super-in depth, extreme-amateur level tutorial on glazing. I've even ordered (and still waiting on) the War Colours Glazes to see if that helps with my thinning fails.
Thank you for your amazing channel!
Glazing is easier with dark colors, tints can go chalky. Reds and yellows are the ones to start with. I use glazing medium as too much water breaks down the pigment.
Be sure to wick most of the paint off the brush to keep it under control.
I paint over printed text to gauge the opacity and vary it according to what I need.
I prime plastic packaging with interesting shapes to practice.
Well, I do have the How to Glaze video and I try to start from zero, so I would say check out that video and if you have some questions still, happy to help.
@@thumbprintsinputty6168, I've tried glazing medium and it seems to make everything too glossy. Water, like you said, seems to dilute away the pigment. I've tried mixing with a combo of thinner medium and water but just haven't gotten the ratios right yet.
No matter how thin I go, I just can't seem to get away from a hazy/chalky, staining effect that looks like a mess.
Perhaps I just need to do some practice on something flat (like you said). Failing on the model compounds my frustrations and just ruins my paint session.
I just don't understand why this technique is so hard for me. I've even mastered edge highlighting (with Vince's help). Just can't get this glazing & blending thing. Grrrrr.
@@VinceVenturella I'll rewatch it. I understand the concept and the mechanics, I just can't seem to get the paint to cooperate. I'm sure its just having the experience of knowing how the paints work and thin, how your brush delivers, etc. I suppose that will just come with more practice and patience.
The rest came so quickly and produced amazing results. It's just frustrating to hit a wall without a clear "answer" as to what you're doing wrong.
@@larrygarms7230 Chalky happens too often with colors that have a bunch of white in them. Having that problem on a face. Using my practice sheet to see if I can get it right. Good luck.
This video is awesome.
Thank you, always happy to help. :)
Great video
Thank you, very much appreciated. :)
A few weeks ago you put a call out for video ideas, and I thought of how foundational this vid was for me and how I've shown it to 2 friends so far as they decide how they want to approach their first mini-painting projects. This vid came out really early in the contrast game, and also before that streak of youtubers giving guides on how to paint with just a drybrush. Do you feel like enough has changed since 2019 to warrant an update of this one?
I think this is definitely one that might be a good idea for a redo.
There's a style I've become really enamored with that I'm starting to see a lot lately that uses layering of thin sharp lines over an opaque basecoat in a sketch/comic style that creates really striking contrast on miniatures with strong musculature or things like wings. Will Hahn did a great Myrmidon in the PMP group with this technique. I've seen some folks call it sketch style, though it doesn't seem to be similar to Matt's style or your Value sketching video as it doesn't seem to rely on glazing. Is anyone familiar with this approach and if there's any guides on it?
Sure, so this stle is really visible in something like LAN Studio's painting. I have a guide (not on that) but using that style for brushed metal (as well my copper NMM video), you can see those below.
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Hi Vince,
This is now my goto video for people who want to start painting. Along with top ten cheating techniques.
Also, I tried the Value Sketching technique you used on the large fleshy demon with the blue skirt on a 28mm ranger with green cloak and it came out a mess -- the blends were not natural. Obviously I need more practice, but 1) I think I had not selected the right color triad. 2) Is this maybe too small a model to start practicing on?
Well, there are a few issues. 1) what paint were you using? It needs to be relatively thick and shouldn't be an air paint. 2) A bigger brush makes a big difference. So go to the biggest brush you can. I use the technique on that size all the time, but larger surfaces do make it easier to learn/practice. :)
@@VinceVenturella it was Vallejo Game Color. I'll try with a larger brush, thanks.
@@VinceVenturella IIRC I was using rather thin paints, further thinned on my wet palette. Some runny Model Color greens, and even an ink or two... I will try again with my thick globby Vallejo Game Colors...
A terrific overview. On the down side my Patreon outlay has tripled ;-)
That is always rough, but we live in a great time, a golden age of great painters sharing their knowledge which is awesome.
@@VinceVenturella Absolutely. I've been painting just over a year and have learned/ progressed so much due to such resources that a few bucks is a small price to pay. On a related note I know you've mentioned before you have no plans for a Patreon but as my main source of info and inspiration if you did set one up I'd be on board in a second.
So there are names for what I kind of did all along (but all mixed up), good to know 😛
Happy to help as always. :)
I did do a historical bust and I displayed at the MFCA this year and I did win a certificate of excellence but I realize now where I went wrong and that was with highlighting is there a way I can improve on this ?
If you know any high level figure painters, or have access to an ipms or amps clubs, or better yet, a miniature club, you can ask for criticism. Historical figures are painted with the same techniques, there is more emphasis on lights and shadow and we don't do NMM.
METAL RULES!
Sure, the best way to improve is to likely integrate those learnings on contrast on another bust and take that to MFCA again. Have the judges give you feedback on that specific item. :)
Question what would call the style Bogusz Bohun Stupnicki uses?
www.patreon.com/bohunarts
To me it almost seems as though he uses dry brushing and stippling?
Aslo gratz on the 200 video.
Well, one thing I wasn't wanting to focus on here is processes (like wet blending) - that's the individual element. I was more concerned with the holistic approach, how are you going from primer to finish and the sort of broad steps you take along the way. Bohun for example is basically often "layering" - that is the thickness of his paint, he is just doing it through dry brushing and stippling as the paint is thick. He does produce a unique look for sure with his overall style, using that thicker paint layering technique through the process of dry brushing and stippling amongst many others.
@@VinceVenturella Thanks for the answer i wasn´t sure if it was layering or not, since he used drybrushing rather then what layering usually is a lot of thin layers.
So it might have been a technique i wasn´t familiar with that had its own unique name.
But it just goes to show the variety of each technique.
Awww. no mentioned of Wyrd Miiniatures' "Wet on Dry" technique? Or Ben Komet's "Loaded brush" technique?
Well again, those are processes as I defined it here - that's a particular application of paint. I am not talking about that in particular, I am talking about the larger process of taking a miniature from primed to complete and how you are attacking that in broad steps. So like Loaded Brush is really just a form of wet blending, and he uses it amongst many other techniques on the road to a painted miniature ending in glazing.
Great video - I'm an admirer of the layering technique, but paint traditional for the most part, with a healthy amount of wetblending. One thing though, on the last slide... not a fan. I think that figure look more like a comic book character than something I could see on a (simulated) battlefield. This might be because I'm not a fan of NMM overall, but in this case, it looks - sorry to say - overdone to the extreme. Other than that, as I said, great video.
It's one of my favorite miniatures and certainly represents a high quality figure, but that doesn't mean a person has to enjoy it. Ultimately the enjoyment of any figure is personal and as long as what you are painting matches your tastes and producing figures you enjoy, then you are using the right techniques. :)
Vince Venturella Absolutely - I totally agree. However, this style of figure is what win competitions, and since I don't paint 3D comic book characters and I really dislike the entire style, my chances to win with the same figure would be very small. I paint for realism, and that means I never overdo effects like this or bring out details to a hard level (where the final highlight almost always end in white) which is - coincidentally - also something I dislike. Not that I care - I paint for me, not anyone else, but it's disheartening to see so many models being painted like this. It's like if all comics and animations suddenly became anime style...
Defines terminology proceeds to break it all the time =D
You aren't wrong. :)
You missed the most important style, the three step blob, dark layer, medium layer, light layer and NO blending , bish-bosh job's done ;-) all my armies are painted like this.
I missed that one. ;)
Anyone else hear SpongeBob yelling technique over and over again?
Ouch. Intro music shakes the walls. The actual content is low enough volume this old guy has to turn up the volume further AND turn on captioning.