Ice works best in an enclosed environment, where atmospheric air doesn't keep replenishing and staying warmer. It would have lasted *much* longer inside that shed you kept it next to, because it could have cooled the entire thing down and used that as insulation, rather than the wind keeping on blowing around it and constantly warming everything back up.
My dad was ice cutting when he was young, in the Finnish countryside in the 1950s, before there was electricity in every house. They had cows and needed ice to keep milk cold before the dairy men came to collect it.
My father used an ice house for years at his summer resort. The ice was cut from the local lake in winter then buried in sawdust for the whole year. It worked great.
What you kind of forgot to mention is that people wouldn't have this behind their shack like you did. Ice blocks were put in the basement and old basements are naturally around 5-10°C all year round and you could make a part of it colder by placing some ice blocks there (this was used to cool beer, for example). Or a small ice block was placed inside a metal container at the bottom of a kitchen pantry and it kept it nice and cool for about a week, then the ice had to be replenished (it's also why it wasn't advised to open the pantry too often, you'd only take out the groceries you needed and keep it shut at all other times, just like when mum scolds you about keeping the fridge open for too long). I reckon if you dug a decent sized metal container into the ground and stacked ice blocks around the walls it would keep all year round. At least in moderate climate, not in a hot place of course.
It's amazing how long large blocks of ice can last for if well insulated. The icehouse at the resort supposedly only had to be filled once every two years because it was so efficient. When Tudor sailed his ice to India, he started with 180 tons and still managed to arrive with 100 tons still intact when he got there
blocks of ice beside each other will exchange less heat (less surface area to transfer from) and protect inner blocks. Also, it might be colder than you think, since the lower limit is technically 0K.
MetaBloxer 0 kelvin is extremely cold in fact absolute zero, ice would not reach that on ships, did you mean 273 Kelvins which is 0 degrees Celsius being the "lower limit of ice"
Because some people might be interested in this: I live in the Central German Uplands and here people used to build big, house-shaped fames over which they poured water in the winter to make ice, which they then kept in cellars dug into the granite. This would keep things, most notably beer, cold all summer long. I can't speak for all of Germany, but where I am from, this is reasonably well documented.
This is simply amazing. For everything you do, you meet new people and they all seem so kind and passionate. These videos make me want to meet people and engage in all sort of activities! Thank you!
Omg! I'm in love with that Minnesota accent! That's my favorite thing about the movie and show Fargo, but that old man is just too cute. Haha. Love what you do on this channel! So great.
3:54 So cut through the heart, cold and clear Strike for love and strike for fear See the beauty, sharp and sheer Split the ice apart! And break the frozen heart 😂😂
"Born of cold and winter air And mountain rain combining This icy force both foul and fair Has a frozen heart worth mining Cut through the heart, cold and clear Strike for love and strike for fear See the beauty sharp and sheer Split the ice apart And break the frozen heart!"
Watch your step! Let it go! Ah! Oh! Watch your step! Let it go! Beautiful! Powerful! Dangerous! Cold! Ice has magic Can’t be controlled Stronger than one! Stronger than ten! Stronger than a hundred men!
In our family estate in Bavaria we still have a refrigerator that was operated with block ice, this method was still occasionally used until the end of the 1950s
I watched it while high and with no sounds or context. VERY interesting video! So, this guy went on a hunt for ice, learned how to harvest it from some ancient people, got some bricks of ice home, BURIED IT, waited 1 month, checked if some food was spoiled and the end.
How do you have only 250k subs? You make some of the highest quality and original videos I've seen, just know that your efforts are affecting at least one person out there
I grew up in desert where you are dependent on refrigeration. A really cold winter day was 40F. My mind exploded the first time I spent winter in the upper Midwest. Leave food on the patio, it will freeze. What?!!! The name Icebox to indicate a refrigerator was odd too. Closest I was familiar with were ice factories built in the early 20th century to make cubed and block ice. Generally used for transit in the days before trucks had refrigerated trailers. The one in my hometown has been converted to restaurants and upscale shops. Thanks for producing this documentary.
I remember a milk farm from my youth in 60's in Finland. It was where my grandmother had her summer cottage. They had ice blocks covered with sawdust just outside the barn. The ice of course came from the same lake we swam during those summers we were there.
this guy is a legend. i hope hes doing well now. with the wealth of not just knowledge, but experience from having been through the gamut of odd jobs. in these videos we’re watching him as a first-timer in each job. hes doing a lot better than i would at the same tasks.
I used to work at a concrete plant during the summer and we would use 300lb blocks to control the concrete temp, you would sling it into large chippers that would then blow it into the mixer. While the blocks were not cut from lakes but made in a factory, was definitely a cool job.
I just don't understand people of youtube. A buff guy, who shouts at camera and makes idiotic vlogs got millions of subs. This channel, that is SO interesting to watch and learn new things, got quarter of million. smh
I live in New Engalnd, we learned about Ice boxes and literal business giants who transported nothing but Ice through the Boston Harbor. It's a 'cool' side of history you might say. Egypy used to transport huge chunks of Ice as well, which is crazy.
Keep going dude. You are good people! I've kept hammering away at something for the last 20 years.. It is now beginning to work. Lesson learned, is never give up, defy, but learn, from your critics, whilst bearing in mind that they may not be correct. :)
Wow, great to see that people still do this! Just like you, I'm from Minnesota as well. Every year on a weekend around Christmas time, our family gathers at our cabin to spend time together, eat great food, and make ice! I created a time lapse of it a couple of years ago, and it's on my channel if you'd like to take a look. We use a chainsaw mounted on a custom rig to pull it along the ice, and we still use ice tongs and ramps and sawdust to preserve the ice for the summer. The reason we do this is because our cabin is on an island in northern Minnesota, and we don't have power. It's cool to go digging in the ice house in the middle of summer, and there's still ice! Sometimes people bury drinks to keep them cold ;)
About a quarter of your videos, I don't think I want to watch because of the subject matter. I do because I know how your channel is and always, always, always learn a ton of stuff that I never even thought of before. It's not often that I watch a video that I'm not really interested in the subject matter of & end up being sucked into and indeed sad when the video ends. Your whole channel is chuck full of super-interesting videos.
where I live in mountain areas we store ice in hole under dried grass and it lasts entire summer... you dig a hole, stuff it with ice and ingredients you want to preserve, then cover it up with lot of dried grass.
My grandfather told me about this when he lived in Connecticut as a child, they would have warehouses of ice covered in saw dust and the Ice man would come to your house caring the ice with the hooks on his shoulders, at times they would just Walk in your house and put it in the ice box and walk out and shut the door. You would probably would had a better out come if you put the ice and food in a underground cellar or in a cooled insulated shed maybe. I see the food was fine but I would recommend if you do this again to try some how to find a caller.
When I originally planed this series out, I was only going to cover natural preservation methods. However now I feel chemical preservatives are kind of the elephant in the room and that I really should tackle them as well. I'm still working out the details of how to do it, as it usually involves sourcing a bunch of exotic chemicals and doing a long series of chemical reactions. Worst case scenario it'll be something I'll come back to at a later time when I have better resources.
Even just basic chemical preservation such as using salt to preserve meat would count as "chemical preservation." Check out this website for "natural chemical preservation": www.fao.org/docrep/v5030e/v5030e0d.htm
At !HowToMakeAnyThing! Try salting the sawdust to see if it would help preserve food longer, my theory is as a chef we use salt to help keep the ice from melting 🤗😎😁
Interesting vid! I wish it had been mentioned about the double walled in ground storage system for ice. Basically two concrete boxes with air inbetween as insulation.
I use to work with the amish they have a entire room that has like 6"+ thick foam insulating them, they cut the ice from there local pounds and can keep it all summer in the rooms
On a related topic it would be great to see how you build a root cellar :) That would probably make an ideal place for an experiment in ice refrigeration as well!
i use to live were we used a chainsaw to cut ice blocks, we had a big hole in the ground with a covering and and actual fridge, as our fridge. i think that was late 90's. i remember stepping into the fridge like it was narnia (it hadn't come out yet) and then down the giant ice blocks to get the jug of milk or eggs
You have some of the most original and best content on TH-cam. Please don't stop doing what you do.
Giordano Mancini and it is well edited and not cringe-worthy
Balduir maybe a little bit of cringe
JustZietse it feels a bit awkward sometimes
welp he just stopped
Oh well he changed the channel to a different theme kinda. It's better
That ice looks clearer than the glass/ice lenses you made!
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Ouch
Man that one was
Cold
Ice works best in an enclosed environment, where atmospheric air doesn't keep replenishing and staying warmer. It would have lasted *much* longer inside that shed you kept it next to, because it could have cooled the entire thing down and used that as insulation, rather than the wind keeping on blowing around it and constantly warming everything back up.
Love the concept of this channel, but its so annoying all the painfully bad and uninformed deciscions he makes every episode😩
My dad was ice cutting when he was young, in the Finnish countryside in the 1950s, before there was electricity in every house. They had cows and needed ice to keep milk cold before the dairy men came to collect it.
That crystal-clear ice is beautiful...
My father used an ice house for years at his summer resort. The ice was cut from the local lake in winter then buried in sawdust for the whole year.
It worked great.
Do you know the square footage of the ice house ?
Was it above ground or underground?
Built out of wood? Or concrete?
Pulling those blocks out looks incredibly satisfying
What you kind of forgot to mention is that people wouldn't have this behind their shack like you did. Ice blocks were put in the basement and old basements are naturally around 5-10°C all year round and you could make a part of it colder by placing some ice blocks there (this was used to cool beer, for example). Or a small ice block was placed inside a metal container at the bottom of a kitchen pantry and it kept it nice and cool for about a week, then the ice had to be replenished (it's also why it wasn't advised to open the pantry too often, you'd only take out the groceries you needed and keep it shut at all other times, just like when mum scolds you about keeping the fridge open for too long). I reckon if you dug a decent sized metal container into the ground and stacked ice blocks around the walls it would keep all year round. At least in moderate climate, not in a hot place of course.
It would have been good to put a temperature data logger in there with the food
magnets1000 comrade doge
This is like primitive technology yet still different, I like it!
ryan miller I think he means the TH-cam Channel primitive technology, that do surprising tutorial from the very point of start
Primitive Technology evolves into this guy in time
It's so satisfying when the top comes off and what remains looks like glass
Yes it was pretty cool.
how the hell does ice survive for 4 months on sea?
If insulated well and in large volume it can last a suprisingly long time
It's amazing how long large blocks of ice can last for if well insulated. The icehouse at the resort supposedly only had to be filled once every two years because it was so efficient.
When Tudor sailed his ice to India, he started with 180 tons and still managed to arrive with 100 tons still intact when he got there
By isolating it in wet hay.
blocks of ice beside each other will exchange less heat (less surface area to transfer from) and protect inner blocks. Also, it might be colder than you think, since the lower limit is technically 0K.
MetaBloxer 0 kelvin is extremely cold in fact absolute zero, ice would not reach that on ships, did you mean 273 Kelvins which is 0 degrees Celsius being the "lower limit of ice"
Because some people might be interested in this: I live in the Central German Uplands and here people used to build big, house-shaped fames over which they poured water in the winter to make ice, which they then kept in cellars dug into the granite. This would keep things, most notably beer, cold all summer long. I can't speak for all of Germany, but where I am from, this is reasonably well documented.
This is simply amazing. For everything you do, you meet new people and they all seem so kind and passionate. These videos make me want to meet people and engage in all sort of activities! Thank you!
I HAVE SPENT EVERY SUMMER OF MY LIFE AT RAINY LAKE AND THIS MADE MY WEEK!
Andy is so used to failures that he had low expectations for the Ice Box.
Honest your name describes this comment.
Omg! I'm in love with that Minnesota accent! That's my favorite thing about the movie and show Fargo, but that old man is just too cute. Haha. Love what you do on this channel! So great.
coming from Wisconsin... I didn't even realise that he was speaking with an accent until I went back and listened to it again XD
3:54
So cut through the heart, cold and clear
Strike for love and strike for fear
See the beauty, sharp and sheer
Split the ice apart!
And break the frozen heart
😂😂
I live in International Falls! Its so cool you came here of all places!
"Born of cold and winter air
And mountain rain combining
This icy force both foul and fair
Has a frozen heart worth mining
Cut through the heart, cold and clear
Strike for love and strike for fear
See the beauty sharp and sheer
Split the ice apart
And break the frozen heart!"
Watch your step!
Let it go!
Ah!
Oh!
Watch your step!
Let it go!
Beautiful!
Powerful!
Dangerous!
Cold!
Ice has magic
Can’t be controlled
Stronger than one!
Stronger than ten!
Stronger than a hundred men!
Never knew Ice could be so interesting
In our family estate in Bavaria we still have a refrigerator that was operated with block ice, this method was still occasionally used until the end of the 1950s
I watched it while high and with no sounds or context.
VERY interesting video!
So, this guy went on a hunt for ice, learned how to harvest it from some ancient people, got some bricks of ice home, BURIED IT, waited 1 month, checked if some food was spoiled and the end.
How do you have only 250k subs? You make some of the highest quality and original videos I've seen, just know that your efforts are affecting at least one person out there
that's some satisfiying looking blocks of ice.Very smooth looking,very clear
I grew up in desert where you are dependent on refrigeration. A really cold winter day was 40F. My mind exploded the first time I spent winter in the upper Midwest. Leave food on the patio, it will freeze. What?!!! The name Icebox to indicate a refrigerator was odd too. Closest I was familiar with were ice factories built in the early 20th century to make cubed and block ice. Generally used for transit in the days before trucks had refrigerated trailers. The one in my hometown has been converted to restaurants and upscale shops. Thanks for producing this documentary.
The amount of effort that goes into making these videos is INSANE!!
Those blocks are absolutely beautiful in their perfection.
This guy should have 10 million subscribers! All the work he does is incredible compared to other youtubers! Keep on working man!
I remember a milk farm from my youth in 60's in Finland. It was where my grandmother had her summer cottage. They had ice blocks covered with sawdust just outside the barn. The ice of course came from the same lake we swam during those summers we were there.
this guy is a legend. i hope hes doing well now. with the wealth of not just knowledge, but experience from having been through the gamut of odd jobs.
in these videos we’re watching him as a first-timer in each job. hes doing a lot better than i would at the same tasks.
This, I have to admit, is incredibly satisfying.
6:27 VERY good point!!!! Definitely spot on!!
What a great job you do with these productions!
I am impressed
tysm!
I used to work at a concrete plant during the summer and we would use 300lb blocks to control the concrete temp, you would sling it into large chippers that would then blow it into the mixer. While the blocks were not cut from lakes but made in a factory, was definitely a cool job.
Looks much clearer than the lenses you've made!
Honestly give this man a show
I just don't understand people of youtube. A buff guy, who shouts at camera and makes idiotic vlogs got millions of subs. This channel, that is SO interesting to watch and learn new things, got quarter of million. smh
Михаил Венедиктов yep. Quantity>quality when it comes to TH-cam. *sigh*
Михаил Венедиктов I never knew there was a channel about a buff guy screaming at a camera? Can I have a link to his channel please?
same way a girl puts naked pictures on Instagram gets more likes then a guy who posts about how his trip to tallest mountain was.
Fat Sasquatch Logan Paul
Danny Vo tbh, he's entertaining tho
3:49 Are nobody gonna talk about how RELAXING that looks?
This video never fails at meeting my satisfactory needs, the perfect cut of clear ice. ❤️
I live in New Engalnd, we learned about Ice boxes and literal business giants who transported nothing but Ice through the Boston Harbor. It's a 'cool' side of history you might say.
Egypy used to transport huge chunks of Ice as well, which is crazy.
That's pretty... cool
Indeed, gurl.
I see what you did there.
Hi Liza Koshy😂
n-ice pun you got there
Keep going dude. You are good people! I've kept hammering away at something for the last 20 years.. It is now beginning to work. Lesson learned, is never give up, defy, but learn, from your critics, whilst bearing in mind that they may not be correct. :)
shouldve had unrefrifgerated food as a comparison to see if the ice was effective
Do you really need to see rotten food to know food goes bad in a month?
While it would have been neat to see, most of that would have been a ball of mold or brown scraps on a month, especially the meat.
yeah, I don't typically store foods for a month just to see what it looks like
Lol, do you want to fuck up his fridge with that mouldy stuff? :P
I would've like to see the same stuff refrigerated in a modern refrigerator for comparison
That cube of ice looks beautiful
Wow, great to see that people still do this! Just like you, I'm from Minnesota as well. Every year on a weekend around Christmas time, our family gathers at our cabin to spend time together, eat great food, and make ice! I created a time lapse of it a couple of years ago, and it's on my channel if you'd like to take a look. We use a chainsaw mounted on a custom rig to pull it along the ice, and we still use ice tongs and ramps and sawdust to preserve the ice for the summer. The reason we do this is because our cabin is on an island in northern Minnesota, and we don't have power. It's cool to go digging in the ice house in the middle of summer, and there's still ice! Sometimes people bury drinks to keep them cold ;)
~ the makings for some serious memories!! Very Cool!!
That's amazing! I had no clue it would still work that well with the ice melted that far! Great video keep em coming!
Amazing! the kind of knowledge i was craving as an Adirondacker..I have easy access to plenty of natural ice.
Another great video :)
The sawdust shot was very cinematic!
something so satisfying about this.
The literal definition of quality over quantity
About a quarter of your videos, I don't think I want to watch because of the subject matter. I do because I know how your channel is and always, always, always learn a ton of stuff that I never even thought of before. It's not often that I watch a video that I'm not really interested in the subject matter of & end up being sucked into and indeed sad when the video ends. Your whole channel is chuck full of super-interesting videos.
This channel really needs more subs
Somehow it is so satisfying to see the clear ice block removed from the lake.
Wtf...i jist discovered your videos the other day. I am blown away. This is a fantastic channel
Thanks and welcome!
My dad who is close to 88 years of age remembers having an ice house on his parent's farm in Alberta, Canada, in the 1930s and 1940s.
This was quite satisfying to watch, and the music gives off a Minecraft vibe lol.
the perfectly square clear ice was sooo satisfying
where I live in mountain areas we store ice in hole under dried grass and it lasts entire summer... you dig a hole, stuff it with ice and ingredients you want to preserve, then cover it up with lot of dried grass.
That was so aesthetically pleasing
I like wating till all your vids are done then I can binge watch
Wow, now I like refrigerators even more.
My grandfather told me about this when he lived in Connecticut as a child, they would have warehouses of ice covered in saw dust and the Ice man would come to your house caring the ice with the hooks on his shoulders, at times they would just Walk in your house and put it in the ice box and walk out and shut the door.
You would probably would had a better out come if you put the ice and food in a underground cellar or in a cooled insulated shed maybe. I see the food was fine but I would recommend if you do this again to try some how to find a caller.
The ice is so PRETTY!
That clear ice is beautiful..
hell yea, back to the good content
STRONGER THAN ONE
STRONGER THAN TEN
STRONGER THAN ONE HUNDRED MEN!!!
That was cool.
Badum tiss
xZXY101x your comment is pretty chill
Nuwbers badummm tiss
Wow you guys are COLD
ZXY101 s
Wow, what an ICY reception
this is one of your best videos so far!
Î knew about the old ice refrigerators, but it's nice to see how effective it really is. Nice video! :)
Will you be going over chemical preservation?
When I originally planed this series out, I was only going to cover natural preservation methods. However now I feel chemical preservatives are kind of the elephant in the room and that I really should tackle them as well. I'm still working out the details of how to do it, as it usually involves sourcing a bunch of exotic chemicals and doing a long series of chemical reactions. Worst case scenario it'll be something I'll come back to at a later time when I have better resources.
Formaldehyde ?
Even just basic chemical preservation such as using salt to preserve meat would count as "chemical preservation."
Check out this website for "natural chemical preservation": www.fao.org/docrep/v5030e/v5030e0d.htm
Contact the food science department at a local university, they love outreach stuff.
+Mandragara Great suggestion!
You answered so many of my questions with this video. Thank you!
At !HowToMakeAnyThing! Try salting the sawdust to see if it would help preserve food longer, my theory is as a chef we use salt to help keep the ice from melting 🤗😎😁
The ice looks so aesthetic!
My father had a fishing resort known as Pine Crest Lodge near Westport Ontario. When he first bought the resort in the 1959’s
What a really nice guy, the iceman
Thank you for continuously providing amazing content 🤙🏽 this is my favorite channel
No dislikes actually, amazing.
reminds me of the opening scene from frozen lol
omg i can't believe i was the only thinking that 😂
@@javiersalazar492 same
HmMmMm i wonder whyyyyy
Remind me of Antarcticite from Land of the Lustrous
As always, keep on keeping on. Love this series!
Wow natural ice looks clear
I would recommend digging a kind of basement-dungeon under your house to keep the ice, that would keep the stuff frozen almost forever.
Wow, a place I have been to before! Pretty cool!
That's some cutting edge technology
mostly watching this because of how satisfying the ice cubes look *-*
I deliver ice for a living so this is kind of a neat video for me.
When you hear"we'll back in the old days" you know it's gonna get good.
@KeanuBodypillo g ok snowflake (im not actually offended, just so you know XD)
I love eating ice cubes 😍 this looks awesome 😍
OMFG I WENT TO THE SAME EXACT PLACE A FEW YEARS AGO! Even went to the paper mill the the local bars. It was a great time.
Interesting vid!
I wish it had been mentioned about the double walled in ground storage system for ice. Basically two concrete boxes with air inbetween as insulation.
4:20 best part so soothing
I like your content and I think it has great production value keep it up
6:11 who slices cucumbers while in the air,,,?
Oofla Jr actually I've done that many times. It saves my counter top when I couldn't find a cutting board
Masters of hand-eye coordination that won't cut themselves.
Who doesn’t
And he was using a bread knife smh
The ice cutters looked like they were having fun
I have lived in Canada all my life and not once have I heard someone with a real Canadian accent until this video
I use to work with the amish they have a entire room that has like 6"+ thick foam insulating them, they cut the ice from there local pounds and can keep it all summer in the rooms
On a related topic it would be great to see how you build a root cellar :) That would probably make an ideal place for an experiment in ice refrigeration as well!
My grandpa told me about he used to deliver ice boxes. I thought that was awesome!
for some reason that was satisfying
And thats why the opening for frozen happened.
i use to live were we used a chainsaw to cut ice blocks, we had a big hole in the ground with a covering and and actual fridge, as our fridge. i think that was late 90's. i remember stepping into the fridge like it was narnia (it hadn't come out yet) and then down the giant ice blocks to get the jug of milk or eggs