lloD is definitely one of the best Peaches vs Marth in the world, but even still he has not won a set over Zain in 4.5 years! Not only that, but this is Zain's first set loss with Marth in all of 2022! Huge win for lloD.
It took me a super long time to realize, but is "lloD" just supposed to be "Doll" backwards lol. Would make sense, especially considering he's a Peach main.
This is the only set so far this year that Zain has dropped. Good stuff to lloD for pulling off the upset. He has pushed Peach further then anyone. Hard work paying off.
I've been doing the float back air forever against my friend that is a Marth because it seemed like the only thing that worked. I didn't realize it was actually the answer at the top level too. I thought it was just our meta
Llod might honestly have the best decision making in the game period when he's given time, so Zain's usual approach to floaties, which is just to beat them in neutral and advantage over and over, really doesn't work well on him
@@shadowgaleshale9218 Llod is in all honesty just smarter than a fair amount of players. He's one of those people that does a lot of research into the game seeing as hes one of the few people to write a competitive melee book and it's pretty good.
@@shadowgaleshale9218 there are different ways to win neutral, like mango winning neutral is different then fiction, so I can see the confusion. I think he was referring to the way that zain wins his neutral. LLod is more about appropriate spacing and less about hard core pressure, and since LLod is a very tactical player who makes good decisions in the moment, if you give him the space to do so, its very hard to beat him outright. And since zain is more of a out space not outpace kinda guy its not to crazy to see this result even if it is a huge upset. Maybe I misunderstood what he wrote but thats my takeaway
at 7 :10 zain power sheided a stitch face and also at 22 : 10 llod pulled a stitch face but he didnt realize because of the star ko animation of marth hitting the screen so he automatically pulled another turnip
@@equinox3861 not to mention armada I know best player at his time. With mango and hbox. M2k had some moments. Armada consistenly destroyed Marths as peach.
This is why I never followed the narrative that Zain would absolutely demolish Armada if he kept playing the game. Dont get me wrong; lloD is an amazing peach player but Armada had the better peach for the entirety of his career from 07-18 so it's only logical to conclude that Armada and Zain would be trading sets with neither players getting completely annihilated by the other.
@@evadekiryu5060 I was speaking from a perspective that Armada would still most likely be the best peach player in 2022 if he kept playing the game because he's had the best peach for his whole career. It's not really a fair comparison to compare 2022 lloD to 2018 Armada so idk what point you were trynna prove there bud.
armada would be shitting on current zain if he never quit. Mango never quit and didn't even practice that much/hard and was top 1-2 in the world beating zain a ton and mango was below armada when armada was towards the end of his carreer + armada practices harder
Gonna guess it just got uploaded minutes ago and hasn't had time for youtube to process the higher resolutions. EDIT: Was right, high quality versions have finished processing now. Reload the video on your player. (:
I don't know why they stop at masks (cdc has admitted one way masking is about as effective as two way masking regardless for the average cloth mask) and vaccines (whose creators themselves have also admitted natural immunity is stronger than their vaccines). They should require proof of being free of flu, STD's, epilepsy, cancer, and if they wear their seatbelt while in their car for next summit, because there's a statistically higher chance they could die of any of those things. Think about their health and safety man :(
@@albaniaalban Reduces the severity of a virus comparable to the flu. Now I'm just wondering why they didn't require everyone take a flu vaccine before entering summit, or in the years before covid when the flu still existed. They just need to admit they get off on power tripping people already.
lloD is definitely one of the best Peaches vs Marth in the world, but even still he has not won a set over Zain in 4.5 years! Not only that, but this is Zain's first set loss with Marth in all of 2022! Huge win for lloD.
@@jsmithers. ?? 🤨
@@jsmithers. You can get out troll rofl
@@oceanwaves83 he posts like a redditor but on youtube
That was a hype set. Kind of shitty that Llod had to play Zain again like 20 mins later though.
It took me a super long time to realize, but is "lloD" just supposed to be "Doll" backwards lol. Would make sense, especially considering he's a Peach main.
yea, doll was an old school peach who inspired llod to pick up the character
@@doomgu544 Dude, that's really cool! Had no idea, and I've been watching Smash tournaments for years. Cool tidbit, thanks!
@@doomgu544 is that the same doll from the chudat chronicles....
@@ih8526 I think so
Wtf lol. Never realized this.
This is the only set so far this year that Zain has dropped. Good stuff to lloD for pulling off the upset. He has pushed Peach further then anyone. Hard work paying off.
I've been doing the float back air forever against my friend that is a Marth because it seemed like the only thing that worked. I didn't realize it was actually the answer at the top level too. I thought it was just our meta
Llod might honestly have the best decision making in the game period when he's given time, so Zain's usual approach to floaties, which is just to beat them in neutral and advantage over and over, really doesn't work well on him
Isn’t everyone’s approach to everything just win neutral and advantage state?
@@shadowgaleshale9218 Llod is in all honesty just smarter than a fair amount of players. He's one of those people that does a lot of research into the game seeing as hes one of the few people to write a competitive melee book and it's pretty good.
@@shadowgaleshale9218 there are different ways to win neutral, like mango winning neutral is different then fiction, so I can see the confusion.
I think he was referring to the way that zain wins his neutral. LLod is more about appropriate spacing and less about hard core pressure, and since LLod is a very tactical player who makes good decisions in the moment, if you give him the space to do so, its very hard to beat him outright. And since zain is more of a out space not outpace kinda guy its not to crazy to see this result even if it is a huge upset.
Maybe I misunderstood what he wrote but thats my takeaway
Llod just casually breaking the Hippocratic Oath in front of countless witnesses.
indians the face of Melee lets gooooo GOOD SHIT LLOD BEST PEACH
Zain is Pakistani
@@Chadmeleon South Asian 💪💪
22:09 Llod knits through a stitchface here -- dunno if it was on purpose because he's up or if Marth's camera KO distracted him from noticing.
I’m so proud of Llod 😄
Llod's recoveries are fucking insane. It's like he had 2x the stocks.
at 7 :10 zain power sheided a stitch face and also at 22 : 10 llod pulled a stitch face but he didnt realize because of the star ko animation of marth hitting the screen so he automatically pulled another turnip
5:40 match starts
Love the breakdown
lloD with the Death the Kid hoodie!!
6:27 Hold up....?
Was waiting for people to finally realize how underrated peach is against Marth. First good peach he's had to deal with consistently.
One person? Trif beat M2K's Marth and Polish and Llod have beaten Kodorin's Marth.
@@equinox3861 not to mention armada I know best player at his time. With mango and hbox. M2k had some moments. Armada consistenly destroyed Marths as peach.
@@degenerationx90 not near the end, m2k was beating him for a while.
“he’s a knitter” I had to double take cuz
Lmfao what is the meaning even? As in cycling for stitchface?
@@GiZMOSOLiD yeah i think it had sum to do with the stitch lool
Peach Nation Turn-Up
This is why I never followed the narrative that Zain would absolutely demolish Armada if he kept playing the game. Dont get me wrong; lloD is an amazing peach player but Armada had the better peach for the entirety of his career from 07-18 so it's only logical to conclude that Armada and Zain would be trading sets with neither players getting completely annihilated by the other.
armada would probably play fox though
Bruh llod rn is better than 2018 armada. Also they play differently.
@@evadekiryu5060 I was speaking from a perspective that Armada would still most likely be the best peach player in 2022 if he kept playing the game because he's had the best peach for his whole career. It's not really a fair comparison to compare 2022 lloD to 2018 Armada so idk what point you were trynna prove there bud.
You really can't compare Armada and lloD at all tbh, they play the character completely differently.
armada would be shitting on current zain if he never quit. Mango never quit and didn't even practice that much/hard and was top 1-2 in the world beating zain a ton and mango was below armada when armada was towards the end of his carreer + armada practices harder
wooow was brutal match, in the last minute I only think: the best comeback ever... lol
Sick Melee!
Tell coinbase ro get there shit together lol
also why is the quality booty?
Gonna guess it just got uploaded minutes ago and hasn't had time for youtube to process the higher resolutions. EDIT: Was right, high quality versions have finished processing now. Reload the video on your player. (:
most common neutral opener: "misc"
Is that just throwing a turnip?
yes
wife vs sephiroth ken
in 2022
Not gonna lie Slime's voice is so similar to Vish's
sheeeeesh
Manacloud old schoool
Zain has a peach problem. *Armada, Trif, Llod*
Fuck slime is funny
mdva rep
1st comment(?)
Like a boss
You guys are all vaxxed. You’re gonna be fine. You shouldn’t freak out cause of a positive test
What a buzzkill right?! .. all the commentators wearing masks now and everything. 🤦♂️
Sir this is a Wendy's.
I don't know why they stop at masks (cdc has admitted one way masking is about as effective as two way masking regardless for the average cloth mask) and vaccines (whose creators themselves have also admitted natural immunity is stronger than their vaccines). They should require proof of being free of flu, STD's, epilepsy, cancer, and if they wear their seatbelt while in their car for next summit, because there's a statistically higher chance they could die of any of those things. Think about their health and safety man :(
Vaccines don't prevent transmission, sadly. They do reduce the rates slightly and decrease the severity of aquired disease, however.
@@albaniaalban Reduces the severity of a virus comparable to the flu. Now I'm just wondering why they didn't require everyone take a flu vaccine before entering summit, or in the years before covid when the flu still existed. They just need to admit they get off on power tripping people already.
I'm so glad that they are wearing masks so that I don't have to wear mine while I watch.
Uhh ok?
aged milk like a mf
@@IuckFsrael typical right brained response