Fanatec Club Sport V3 Pedals 2021 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ม.ค. 2021
- My review of the Fanatec Club Sport V3 pedals in 2021.
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Please ignore my reference to the OBP pedals in this video, everything with them was not as it first seemed, video to follow!
You’re one of the only TH-camrs i enjoy listening to. No ums and ahs, weird cuts, just facts and figures. Cheers 🍻
Thanks mate, doing my best! 🙂
Got these with my CSW 2.5 a year or so ago and absolutely love them to pieces. If anything the feedback from the pedals with their attached motors is more critical than that from the wheel itself. Amazing bit of kit. Interesting to see that you didn't go mental adding masses of stiffness to the brake like I've seen a lot of other simmers go for. I left mine pretty much at default and have no bother with them
I do like the way you do reviews Karl. very informative and you give info that other dont think of. keep up the good work sir. 👍👍
I appreciate that!
I was tempted to buy a few times but could never justify upgrading from my v2 which are awesome. I had the csr elite pedals before that and i still regret selling even though i would just have put them on a shelf. Great review.
Your reviews are cool, relaxed, honest and informative... Nice work mate ! 🏁🏁🏁
Glad you like them!
Another great review Karl. Just bought myself a second hand pair of these and awaiting delivery like a kid at Christmas
Ah nice mate, enjoy! :)
Just found your channel today, you do your reviews incredibly well I learned a lot about these pedals thanks to this and your load cell video. I bought them second hand for €280. Didn't come with the black springs though, I would have liked to try the different resistances.
Thanks mate! They are good pedal, enjoy! :)
I'm still rocking the V1's i bought new 9 years ago lol great vid Karl
Just ordered one, thx for the review Karl😎 i Will match it with my g29 and the thrustmaster seq shifter😅. Keep the reviews going !
Nice tip regarding clutch settings for DR2.0...thanks for that!
No problem 👍
Excellent description of the clutch simulation
Thanks Rich!
I love my fanatec v3 pedals. Had 2 sets now over last 3 years (had to sell my first pair) for the money they can't be beat.
Agreed mate!
Natural presenting style is a bonus in today's age. I love the fact you say it as it is...'Pony!'
Been awhile since I heard that expression 🤣
You're one of the ones I'm blaming for getting me interested in sim racing recently, although late to the game at almost 52!
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lol Doing my best mate!
Never too late, whilst you are exactly one decade ahead of me I'm sure I'll still be learning and enjoying the hobby at 52 too! :)
Great review Karl, they look great, lovely finish in black . I've not long bought the csl elite set up with load cell as at the minute only ps4 pro . Already thinking of direct drive set up and gaming Pc 👍
Something worth mentioning I think. That over center feeling on a clutch pedal is not necessarily directly related to the bite point of the clutch. The over center portion of the spring on a clutch is designed to allow you to hold the clutch in with less Force than it takes to actually disengage the clutch. The bite point can be anywhere in the clutches travel and won't necessarily relate to exactly when the clutch spring goes over center.
Yeah I know mate, but it's close enough and better than nothing as it's the only physical feedback about clutch position we have.
Agreed, they're still the best pedals for the money atm, try sourcing Fanatec's color anodized pedalplate sets Karl, they're like rocking horse poop to get hold of now, Fanatec has from what I can tell discontinued their pedalplate upgrades as I cannot for the life of me find them on their site, I managed to get a secondhand set (still immaculate) in anodized red, that includes the footplate, they don't half look nice when fitted, better then the typical black or alloy silver.
I love your review, you have a nice way of explaining things. I am subbing :)
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks for doing the review, I am waiting to take the plunge on a CSL DD, F1 wheel and these pedals, I was especially excited about the vibration on the pedals, sad to hear that they are a pain and not really noticeable. I always imagined I would love a motor on the clutch pedal to allow the feeling of bite, maybe they will heed you words and put on some heftier motors on all the pedals in the future. I didn't know there is a cam on the clutch and your method makes a lot of sense so thanks for highlighting it.
To wait for the V4s or not, that's the question!
Sadly no games support biting point output data as thats something I've wanted too!
Sim 3D do upgraded motors that are excellent, check them out! :)
www.sim-3d.co.uk/product/pedal-rumble-motor-kit/6
@@KarlGosling Thanks for that, they look really good, getting very tempted now!
Great as always u have these abs love them
Great review, I'm quite suprised you only have 14 thousand subscribers. :)
I'm thinking about replacing my G29 pedals with a pedal set with a load cell. I would love to see a comparing review with TM T-LCM and Fanatec CSL Elite LC. :)
Thanks mate! My channel was only a year old on November the 25th so give it time! :)
I will at some point be trying both for sure.
love ya reviews :D
Cool explanation on the clutch Karl.
Thanks! 😃
surprised to see you haven't got the extras on them already, I bought a set of v3s in similar fashion, found them cheap but absolutely miles away, they had the brake upgrade pack and damper already attached on brake pedal, I struggled to press pedal at all by hand, I undone all the addons and set to normal to judge the differences myself.
throttle pedal for me was too light and was letting the pedals set down, actually felt comparable to the logitech stuff but had way too much travel for a floor mount setup but that's easy to adjust out, main thing was feeling like fly by wire in modern car, I added the damper to throttle on its weakest setting and adjusted the pedal throw so its not like a van going to the floor, massive difference in feel much more natural feeling with or without shoes ( I race in socks lol )
the brake upgrade kit I ended up with a medium setup, 1 green and 1 red from kit, tension adjuster right out, again this is very very firm but feels like my actual brakes (like they would be at start of the trackday anyway) and hasn't got the throw anywhere near as much so is more pressure based and a bit easier to modulate if you are left foot braking alot, if you're wearing thin socks you'll get the pedal imprints in your foot they can take that much pressure.
clutch I also extended the adjustment bar as much as possible to give a little bit more of a smoother transition over its fulcrum point as I had a few jump starts where it caught me off gaurd.
love how adjustable the pedals are!
love that you can quickly tone the brake force on the fanatec wheel too so if I do jump into dirt rally, I don't have to use the high force I prefer for left foot braking in retro track cars on different sims, can just bring it down and comfortably brake with a simple change realtime without dicking about in menus.
the pedals were my first ever venture away from logitech wheels in what's way over 15 years, I was so impressed with the quality and just how natural they felt, I immediately started the hunt for a csl elite wheel, expensive month for sure but offset it all by flogging my multiple logitech wheels I've cheaply collected over the many years, think the upgrade to csl elite with rim and the fully upgraded v3s only cost about £150 after selling all my existing logitech gear while the world was going mad for anything sim related.
couldn't be happier and wish I done it so much sooner.
out of interest, are you a dirt rally 1 or 2 man? I've spent over 100 hours in dirt rally using vr on steam struggling with vr performance but trooped through it, caved in and bought it again on oculus store and it literally is an entirely different game, literally all low to all ultra settings! my favourite racing game of all time, both logitech and the fanatec feel amazing on it.
despite jumping in as early access and patiently waiting for it to be finished, I still can't stand dirt rally 2.0, the ground detail and force feedback is woeful, co driver trying to kill me with his timing sometimes, just feels like a huge let down coming from dirt rally 1, got a total of 7 hours on it and the majority of that is tweaking, I keep going back after all the updates but its just sat taking a huge space up on the SSD, interested to know if you've found same coming from dr1 to 2.
TBH mate because I'm really happy with them as they are I haven't felt the need to buy the extra's.
I came from DR1.0 and whilst DR2.0 does feel a little different I don't find it too much of a problem and that is what I play mostly now... maybe my driving isn't good enough to notice! lol
Hi Aran I’ve ordered this pedal set I have also ordered the brake performance kit so a couple of question if I may. I was thinking of going medium with the brake kit as I want it firm but not too firm does medium improve the feel from base setup from your experience. Also the accelerator seems very light like you said I’m thinking of starting with the black spring so my question is how do you adjust the accelerator to make it a little firmer you state you added dampener and adjusted the throw how is this done thanks.
Just ready to install them on my rig
The rumble on the pedals is not bad using Fanalab and iracing, ACC etc, nice addition to the buttkicker. Great review 👍
Yeah maybe mine are faulty you can't really feel them at all.
@@KarlGosling check the vibration settings are on in Fanalab v1.53
Top review again,work well with acc on PS4
10 minutes around different cars clutches, cheers pal 👍
you can adjust the vibration speed of the vibration motors in fanalab to something more your liking.
Yeah mine are still really weak, I think they are broken?!
Good review thanks
No problem 👍
Thinking of getting the V3 pedals along with the R9 from moza
V3s are all good and nice, but (un)fortunately no current tech available can simulate the vagueness and stiffness of the clutch pedal in an Alfa 33 boxer combined with the feel and technique needed to actually engage a given gear without grinding.
Another great review, thanks Karl. This might be a silly question but would these be suitable for the playseat challenge or do you need a sturdier setup for something like this?
They would work but you'd need to run the brake pedal soft.
Great review again Karl.
Have you made any comment on the acquisition of Codemasters and the future of Dirt Rally?
TBH We'll just have to wait and see what happens going forward... it's probably not for the best but what can we do?! :(
Thanks for yet another great review Karl. Do you have any idea how the Thrustmaster T-LCMs compare to these ? On paper they seem "similar" but much cheaper.
Build quality is not even close.
Good review. Are you running the brake performance kit with the various elastomer springs? If so, which ones? I've heard these can affect the force required to press the brake to its limit.
No mate just the standard setup.
I had to drill some extra holes for my v3 pedals. Needed to move them over to left to make them more comfortable on the GT Omega prime. -also cut 5 inches off of the overall length on my prime to shorten the base to fit where i needed it.
I have mine dead centre as normal, why do you like yours offset to the left mate?
In WRC 9, the vibrations are nice. And you don t need fanalab to make it work.
Another great review. Did you at any point consider getting the Inverted version of these pedals? I like the idea of the inverted pedals but the price difference might not be worth it...
I didn't mate no, a lot of money for the same feel and operation IMO.
Just got those for 150 bucks. So happy! They're awesome ;)
Hi, Karl. Been watching your videos about racing sim products. The information came in handy. I wanted to ask what is your opinion on the Fanatec Club Sport V3 Inverted pedals. The price difference is rather large compared to the regular set, but they seem way more similar to road car pedals. On their website it says that they are available for pre-order, but looking on TH-cam I find videos of them that are years old. Is a new edition coming up?
Honestly it's just down to how you like them, they feel the same to operate as they are the same pedals.
Who knows, maybe?!
Me and a friend just had our load cells failing after 300 and 350 hours, which is kind of scary if you ask me. We couldn’t find anything about the V3s load cell failing on the internet, so we figured we probably just got a bad charge of load cells.
Fanatec support has been amazing though, his new load cell arrived 3 days after contacting and mine is on its way. Still, it’s frustrating and not really reassuring to have your 360€ pedals fail that way (in two cases)
So if anybody here knows about the problem, please let me know about your experience, cheers
Hey KG, happy new year once again fantastic review, is funny was catching up you're videos other day and see the OPB pedals think was called and came to mind should do a fanatec one and here itis, what I'd really love for you to do if possible get hold or if anyone has to give to you a review of Fanatec's inverted V3 pedals, I was looking at them mainly because most cars have inverted pedals and wanted see if the breaking and clutch points and feel is any better then having the 'pedal box' style you're showing now is that inverted pedals something you've come across or wanted to try out by any chance
I nearly bought some but these came up much cheaper so had to go this way.
I think you can get the inverted addon frame so essentially they would feel just the same mate.
@@KarlGosling ah I didn't know you could get add on frame hmm interestingg, well thanks alot mate was just something that I saw thought let me see if you ever came across but yeah have a good weekend
Can you post a video showing us how you lube up your shaft when it gets stiff again Karl? It must be squeaking like fcuk by now and I'm sure the missus will appreciate it too!
This is such a great review! I've been wondering, though, will you get a chance to review Thrustmaster's T-LCM pedals? They're a more budget-oriented loadcell pedal set and I'm thinking of getting those over the V3s to save a bit of money.
Get them they're really nice
@@cryptoshae5875 Gonna wait for the new CSL LC pedals instead 👍🏻
Could you please make video with the Playseat Challenge and these pedals? I have Chalange and trying to decide csl elite loadcell or V3.
Really like your content and point of view is similar to mine! Keep the great work!!!
I'm sure Karl will comment but before I went to an ART cockpit I had the CSL Elite LC on the Challenge, I held it on with strong zip ties front and back and cranked down the red plastic screws to the base tube but during hard braking it went completely forward lol. So I drilled side holes and placed a bolt/nut and it didn't move after that.
@@brigildea Thanks! My Challenge already have 2 holes for the shifter, so few more will not be a problem. :D
Hey Karl how much would you recommend the V3 over the CSL Elite LC if I add the vibration motors to those as well?
Thank you
I'm a bit confused on how it's possible to adjust a fixed load cell brake hardness/softness. Isn't is always going to take the same foot force unless you change the mechanical leverage of the pedal? Thanks for the review
You adjust the resistance of the part that travels... same as changing a spring in any type of brake pedal LC or otherwise, the LC doesn't actually move.
Check out my video on Load Cells mate.
Hi I love you video, helped me alot as a beginner. I just got my dd pro recently, I am thinking to upgrade my pedal, since I have the two pedal csl set, do you think v3 is that much better than the csl load cell according to the price difference? Thanks and keep up with you amazing work.
For a two pedal setup the CSL LC is fine, I would only go V3 if you want a half decent clutch too.
@@KarlGosling thanks for the reply, I dun use clutch at the moment since I have no shifter yet, I saw some 3d print to mod the csl throttle also, do u think that will work? I think the csl throttle is kind too lite
Nice duckhunt tshirt brother prob one of my first games
Classic!
Those motors seems to be working for me, but..
- I don't have Clubsport pedals
- I installed and configured it myself (XBOX controller vibration motors on T3PA pedals)
- Using arduino to run those and wind simulation fans
- Works in pretty much every game and are highly configurable through SIMHUB software
Belter video mate, just purchased the V3s for £270 brand new, shipped to the UK. Do you think this video still holds up these days? I've noticed there doesn't seem to have been any developments to pedals in this pricepoint, and after seeing reviews for the CSL Elite's, I'd rather spend the extra hundred or so quid to get these.
Yup these are still the best mid-high end pedal set IMO mate
I love these pedals I became a better racer when I got them and now can do road races I iracing
I currently have the CSL Elite w/LC and I like them but of course with this hobby and if lucky to upgrade we look for other gear and these V3's are beautiful and may bite the bullet on them. I was looking at the Heusinkveld Sprints but not at this time. Would you think it would be a worthy upgrade to the V3's or maybe just wait? Thanks Karl
I've not had enough time using the CSL Elites to comment mate sorry.
I have had the Elites with Load cell brake for several years and have just ordered the V3 pedal set. My Elites still work great and no complaints just wanted to try an upgrade as the build quality on the V3 set is much nicer, the loadcell on the V3 is supposed to be a better heavier duty design and the V3 pedals use a hall sensor on the clutch and throttle instead of potentiometer which should be more trouble free and long lasting.
I also ordered the brake performance kit at the same time since shipping and handling charges are so high with Fanatec if the kit were ordered separately.
I think for the money the V3 pedal set may well offer the best value for the actual dollars spent in a solid mid level pedal set but I am just going by multiple reviews and yet to have them in my possession. I should have them by the middle of the upcoming week.
Than you my racing brother
No worries!
Fanalab is the software Karl. I feel it in iRacing. Maybe yours are either not working or like you said it isn't setup on the software. Great videos as always. Have you heard any updates from GTOmega about flight sim add-ons for the Prime?
Thats it! lol
No mate I haven't, I'm not a flight sim guy so don't really expect to hear about those sort of addons.
@@KarlGosling thanks I’ll try to keep an eye out. Can’t really find a welding company here in this part of the states to have my own plate made.
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Hi Karl, do the vibration motors work properly (ie ABS-triggered brake pedal? Under/oversteer-triggered accelerator?)
Thinking of upgrading from my G29 😉
It doesn't really work quite that simply unfortunately, but for me they are so weak I can hardly feel them.... Still a massive upgrade from the Logitech pedals though! :)
I got into iracing and have the logitech 920 was thinking of upgrading just the pedals to this for now can't spend to much at once....mostly for the load cell brake, is it worth it? I do sim race every night for four hours or more so I do think it might be worth the investment but as a guy who has owned all the gear do you think it's a good idea? Is the loadcell brake worth it....I should mention that I did mod the brake but still not happy and don't want to spend more on more mods. Love your videos thanks!
also use simhub for the motors on that thing you can customize the effects I made my own for the logitech ones
If you can afford it then it's worth it, but there's plenty of very fast esports racers till on the G920 setup.
Would you say the clutch can perfectly simulate the travel and wieght of a semi truck?
lol No idea mate sorry!
Which are the best pedals you can get for Ps5 or pc or that you can use on both system. I have the Fanatec dd pro.
I plan to use these with my playseat challenge and suggestions on what I should and shouldn't do ?
Same,I hope they mount nicely.seems a lot wider than my Logitech pedals
@@bradysmith5237 I just hope the bar that the pedals are going to be pushed up against won't interfere with with the throw of the gas or the clutch and I have a friend that broke his playseat while using these pedals
Hey Karl, I know it's 2023 almost 2024, but I just ordered them from Fanatec with all the accessories (brake damper + performance kid) . Do you still recommend these pedals? I had the choice between this and the elite CSL v2s and decided to go for this! Let me know what you think!!!
I would still choose these over the V2's mate yes.
Any experience with the load cell breaking? Just lost my first one and had to buy a replacements as I was out of warranty Plus Fanatec will not sell me a spare due to limited inventory so have to wait 2-3 weeks shipping if it goes.
You need to do a V3 vs asetek Forte pedal compare. They are close in price and no one has done that compare.
Are these compatible with the G29 wheel without any other add-ons? Someone told me I need a drive hub? I’ll be running it through the PS5 for GT7
No you cannot use these with anything other than Fanatec wheel bases on console, drive hub is an option but I've never used it.
Can you swap the clutch and brake pedals?
Bit of a random one but what make of speakers are those on in the background there with the horns on the top, look like that would have the pictures rattling on the wall
They are late 80's Jamo's, bottom pair are GF25's and the top pair D265A's... I use the top pair only as rear speakers for my 5.1 setup with a pair of D365's as front left and right and then a Jamo C100 centre and 10" Wharfdale sub.
Nice one, thought they were Jamo’s, a very distinct look and silver/black colour, i remember seeing them in an old catalogue from back then also.
Karl, can these sit on the floor (ie not on any type of rig), up against a skirting board, and still be usable, or is the brake so stiff that it'd puch my chair backwards?
You could, if you put the brake on the softest setting.
Invest in these, or invest in the CDL DD brake pedal set I already have and the after market brake bushing kits.
I just don’t want to invest more into my pedals now and regret not just buying these.
If you can afford these that is what I would do.
The brake pedal stiffness goes up to 6, not 8 :)
Does it matter?! :) lol
Obviously I don't have any practical experience with these but looks wise they are awesome.
For the money you just can't go wrong mate.
@@KarlGosling now I have the new cockpit I just recalibrated my Logitech pedals and instantly gained 3-4 seconds a lap.
11:58 I felt that 😆😆 It me
All of us 😂👍🏻
How much better are these than the Fanatec csl load cell pedals?
I've not used the CSL's but I'm looking to pick some up so will soon be able to compare! :)
Still waiting for the handbrake review..... Any idea when its up?
I've tested it just need to shoot the video so not too long.
I gona buy them soon, I was wondering if I should buy damper kit for throttle and accelerator any advice anyone
?
I’d skip the damper kit.
@@ColinZiemer1 why
@@mirshia5248 For $80 it's a bit much to pay for so little return. It's useless on the brake pedal, and it doesn't do much for the throttle. Save $50 and just buy the $30 Brake Performance Kit. It will reduce pedal throw/travel, and adds adjustable pedal resistance, to better simulate "muscle memory", for more consistent braking.
i cant remember but did you say you bled the obp pedals?
The owner had, but that's not the issue, they have now been improved to sort all the problems, OBP are sending me a brand new set to review so we'll soon see! :)
Are the inverted version worth the extra cash mate ?
Worth? hmm thats very subjective! They do not feel of perform any different, it's just how they sit and look on your rig.
@@KarlGosling thanks for the reply mate I read they are better for heel and toe but if that's about it than I can't justify the price difference keep up the great work
I watch your channel too much to not subscribe. I do have a question though - where did you search to find them second hand?
lol! :) A sim racing Facebook group.
@@KarlGosling Ah okay cool! Subscribed!
I’m on Xbox so how would I go about calibrating them
connect to a pc
I used the v3i’s for about a week (definitely a huge upgrade over Logitech) until I realized that put me very close to Heusinkveld sprint territory (especially when you consider the pedal upgrade kits). So decided to jump, installed them this morning.
Haven’t had enough time yet to evaluate, but I definitely like the heusinkvelds thus far.. I have it on the NLR dd stand atm.
My v3i brake seemed to have different stiffness (and sound) at different time of the day, or after I moved the stand between rooms.. quite weird.
Indeed, no rumble on the sprints. And I was able to feel it relatively well on some Games, I think pcars2, am2, iracing and dirt2.
But can’t say it really helped me. Can only say I felt them at times and thought it was “cool”.
Considering a 3rd party solution to this, but then again I first have 8020 and motion on my list..
All that said; can’t beat the value for money on the fanatecs ..
Sounds about right to me mate :)
Odd though about the different sounds?!
@@KarlGosling yea it was some kind of squishy sound. And the pedal would get more mushy.. not sure what it was, or if I was somehow imagining it. The heusinkveld sprints so far are great and consistent though.
i would love to get one, no place to ship to israel :(
Ah thats such a shame! :(
@@KarlGosling found seller who ships to my country just ordered today :), i wonder if i should order the brake kit
the brake wasnt good enough for me so i went ahead and ordered the brake kit
I remember my HKS KD Max Pro twin plate clutch. It made an awful squealing / grinding noise when it was on the bite point. Bloody awful! I'm sure Fanatec did a better job 😂
lol They did!
Look up cesp pedals, massively better quality reliable like nothing else and cheaper. They bespoke made so not always alot in stock but absolute amazing, the equivalent to husk pedals
They look interesting, no pricing on the website though, what do they cost mate?
@@KarlGosling upto date pricing you should be able to find on Facebook last time I checked they would work out to about 300 pounds
I looked these up and they look great but they aren't that cheap. 3 pedals look like 750usd without a base plate so on par with heusinkveld.
Do you actually own them and did you pay that little?
Me......orders v3 pedals 4hours ago.......Karl.......reviews v3 pedals 3 hours ago
Me now........phew
lol Good timing! :)
Hi mate
F1 supports the vibrators. ;-)
Are you wearing a nintendo duck hunt T-shirt ?
Yes.
Brought these today, £301 direct from fanatec,
Cant want to try them
They have a sale on?!
@@KarlGosling dont think so mate, was cheaper in the cart than the site was showing
Bought mine last night as well... I'm also from the UK. No, not on sale but because of Brexit Fanatec don't charge us the 19% (I think) VAT.... although UPS may charge us on delivery.
@@jaisong8865 think you may be right, just looked at invoice, and it makes a note saying the recipient for the service is responsible for the tax, I assume ups will get in touch then, here is me thinking I had a bargain lol
@@jaisong8865 can confirm Ups billed me £371 in total with import fees