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How Powerful Is Sith Master Starkiller - Star Wars Explained
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He was so powerful they couldn’t even keep him canon.
Not true. He was trained to utilize every ounce of his power. Even Palpatine held back.
A true Sith uses mind games more than anything to turn potential force users or convince others to do their bidding.
Abeloth: Am I a joke to you?
@@travisbartlett7385 To be fair Starkiller was trained specifically to be a weapon, to be on the offense, which is why he was so good at using the Force on destructive levels
@@TheHistoryOfHiFi That cheshire-smiled Force demon Cthulhu chick, yeah that was something
Unlike MaREY Sue
I just realized Ashoka and star killer used a duel wield fighting style and were trained by the same person.
..and that person wasn't a duel wielding fighter. Logic
Michael Kukis well, the original and "non-clone" Starkiller, who is the Darth Starkiller we are talking about, only wielded one sword.
+Christian Barthelmes his argument still stands because both held their lightsabers mainly backwards, though Vader is never seen fighting with his saber backwards
What a meme
I like Ashoka but starkiller would wipe the floor with her.
I swear, if Disney touches him, Starkiller will turn from badass, deadly assassin to a nerfed 1 shot kill character
They were about to make him an inquisitor. AN INQUISITOR! Potentially the most powerful dark force User of his era becomes a %+? #@ing fake sith. Can you imagine it??
@@askkutay well tbf, they both do have similar jobs.
It would probably be for the best.
@@zannisburutis2738 what would exactly?
From what I remember, this was already done to Grievous, and it wasn't even Disney. Disney is not the only company capable of ruining a character.
He pulled a Star Destroyer out of orbit..... he had such potential
He still can do that due to his rage and strength in the dark side of the force it's said that some sith through their rage and hatred can regain their full strength without having to have their body mass fixed so he could be half machine half sith and gain strength it's just it takes time for it to heal Darth Vader is an example he started off weak when the surgery finished but became stronger overtime
He didn't actually pull it, it was already falling and he just kinda guided it which is still pretty dope.
@@Spartan51692 no it wasn't really falling tbh star destroyers float when their in atmosphere due to their thruster and that's not really falling
@@rangopistacho6928 It was stated in game, in the novel and in the comic that the star destroyer was damaged and was coming down regardless and Starkiller grabbed at the opportunity.
@@Spartan51692 Let's not forget that he very rarely used Repulse, which was used far too often in the game. Same goes for TFU2, where the clone only used it once I think.
He was so powerful he literally drop kicked Obi Wan's force ghost.
DovahSpy So what? Chuck Norris can dropkick a ghost and he isn't even force sensitive
Barack Trump... isn't he?
Chuck Norris does not feel the force. The force feels Chuck Norris.
Ghost Kenobi didn't die though. He is a Force Ghost afterall.
Craver Prime I want a super force ghost.
Tbh Starkiller's armor is one of the most badass ever made.
And in my opinion creepy as well, there's no doubt in my mind that if I had a choice I would rather meet Vader on a dark night than this Starkiller.
Especially the Vader variant
We need Galen in the Canon and the Sith Stalker and Dark Lord armor as well. Be amazing to see them in a live action movie.
Egg read
Easily my favorite armor for star killer was the dark apprentice set. Which is like Vader‘s suit minus the Cape and helmet. It looked exactly like something a Sith Lord would wear.
*turns on subtitles*
"Stark Hitler killed Vader"
allright
Lol
O...k
3rd reich destroys the empire questionmark?
It’s even worse because Stark mean strong in German “Strong Hitler killed Vader.”
Hitler in an iron man suit killed vader
Starkiller is Kratos of Star Wars Universe. He´s on that level of badass.
Pepé Šmíd id say just underneath him kratos has died and then literally climbed out of hell
@@reubenduffy5261 Hell is kratos go to hotel
@@utoresa5193 Not the best english, but good try.👍
U copied this commdnt
@@JeebsPlusThree That's not something I have ever heard before.Ok lemme try again.
"Hell is Kratos's go-to hotel."
That's how it's said,I can't make it better.
You know... Starkiller was a great opportunity. The Sith Stalker armor was a REALLY cool design. If the story had been better designed in both Force Unleashed games, I'm sure they'd have made Sith Stalker canon if it got popular enough.
They should make into a comic since he's not classed as an apprentice to the emperor Darth Vader can also be with we could say that the blow was not fatal enough to kill Darth and now the emperor makes it a competition between the two to see who is stronger he could also be more like a spymaster hence the sith stalker and killing off Jedi.
the armor had a hellraiser Cenobite feel
Hei Darkfire I thought what they should have done was show in unleashed 3 that he was alive but working with the sith because he thought he was abandoned and upon discovering they literally replaced him with an update to himself.
wii was the best story while xbox 360 had the best graphics for it. I prefer the wii version, tbh; I really enjoyed it and the graphics didn't bother me a bit (they were sort of fiitting, in a way).
Hei Darkfire I
This DLC was badass.
um....no thanks. I'll keep my pre 21 century story...
tfw I got all the dlc for free cause I bought the ultimate sith edition
if I remember correctly it didn't even cost very much lol
@@Darkswe probably like 15 or 20 bucks at most
THE BEST
Just the outffit is awesome.
The hoth sith stalker armor is still the coolest armor design I've seen in star wars. Whoever designed it has serious talent. Before I thought Vader's design was the coolest and star killer surpassed that.
Vader was designed like a tank which is why I never really felt attached to it but the the sith stalker armor man that’s a different story you can just tell how cold and deadly he’s supposed to be
You are wrong
Kylo Ren's is better
@@Ahmad.s_handle NO.
@@Ahmad.s_handle HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHH
no.
@@Ahmad.s_handle hahaha good joke
1:27 Starkiller takes lightsabers
General grevous: Can we trade?
Starkiller: Sure
General grevous: :D
Grievous: “Give those to me!”
Starkiller: *FORCE LIGHTING!* “MINE!”
in game, if you look on his belt, you can see Vader's and Kota's lightsabers
Really? Never noticed!
@@scottskadsheim8248 too late xD
Wow! Didn't know this, thanks mate
He also has Maul's saber, and his old one
He be like Grevious collecting all kind of lightsabers >_>
Shivers. He's like a death metal version of Darth Malak.
Kaijuhub II
Kaijuhub ikr
His one image is more like a metal version of Darth Sion (just with the missing jaw matching of Darth Malak.)
Kaijuhub so much potential wasted
Kaijuhub Dy moose moose
Imagine if they made this Starkiller the villain of the sequels
AGREE!
Then rebels would have been like 4 episodes long
You really think Rey could do anything??? Lol.
One great thing would have been he would have killed rey in their first duel
Please no.
This version of Galen might have been one of the Top 5 strongest Sith ever. Turning Luke to the dark side and beating the shit out of Vader are two extremely impressive feats
No, he wasn't, read the novelization and literally all legends source material on Vader, his raw power was only second to that of Sidious's, and the novel implies that Galen and Vader matched each other in force combat, while Vader was the better duelist.
@@thevirtualpug3d868 Galen marek was a better dualist than Vader
@TipTwos They didn't fight outside straight away though did they and vader was still getting Overpowered.
Top 5 ? Thats funny Ancient Sith lords would ragdoll starkiller vader and palpatine combined
@@zart8587 star wars knowledge below 0
I kind of want to see the alternate timeline be made into its separate game instead of just being bonus levels for the force unleashed
VernonJ Plenty Bull same. it was rather interesting to see how it all plays out. Sadly we won't know how all that ends.
VernonJ Plenty Bull that'll never happen with Disney in control 😢
VernonJ Plenty Bull yes
That would be cool! They could have made 2 different "Forced Unleashed 2's," a dark side version and a light side version continuing each side of the story.
I agree
He has the power of being non canon so he's as powerful as you want him to be.
Silent V0id He is not non-canon because he is too powerful... he just seems too powerful because of the overall style of the game. The force powers were streamlined to appease the masses, to attract a new public of a new generation into the franchise. If Starkiller were to be in the movies he would be less powerful than Anakin... if Anakin (at his peak) were to be in those games Starkiller would still be less powerful.
luke skywalker was the most powerful ever. he had the same potential as anakin and actually reaching his peak which is the strongest. basicallly anakin if he didnt get his limbs cut off
John .Dickson Exactly! NJO Luke would absolutely destroy any version of Starkiller.
Ancient siths...
1misanthropist me too
Technically the Dark Apprentice, the dark side clone of Galen Marek, is the most powerful version. He has fully embraced the dark side and does not have the disadvantage of being a cyborg. He is 100% organic, completely devoted to the Dark side as seen in his pale skin and yellow eyes, and is confirmed by Vader to be vastly more powerful than Galen
That game was rushed
What are you saying? Because Y1Y2 + Y2 mutation is replicant or 'being' tissue 'nanites' that I'm at a disadvantage? Maybe advantages and disadvantages? - Reverse engineered Star Killer
Let’s not forget the “andthenyouwilldie” line from the game
Yes, we shall never forget that.
Lmaoooo he said it so calmly too
The sith stalker armor is just awesome, in a morbid appreciation way. The armor is built to cause pain to its wearer and grant them more power in the dark side as you said, but it's other purpose, which it succeeds at tremendously, is intimidation. You see a guy wearing that walking toward you, you just run the other way, because you know the wearer's got some pent up rage he needs to let out. As for the most powerful versions of Galen, it's entirely up to interpretation. Starkiller from Force Unleashed 2 has immense skill and a lot of power behind his skill, but Galen from the first game was able to beat Palpatine like a Cherokee drum. And then Lord Starkiller is completely taken over by his darkness from years and years of drilling by Vader, bringing Luke to the dark side, and even eradicating Obi-Wan's ghost for a moment. It all really depends on your personal favorite story arc really. I love the original Galen, as he is a prime example of redemption and self-forgiveness.
Althyra-Nex even the mask looks pissed off it's like it's saying "come here daddy needs to teach a lesson" fuckin chills
I lost it at Cherokee drum 😂
I liked the conceot that for once in the universe(atleast as far as I know) a young sith turns into a jedi
I couldn't agree more. I honestly love all of his different personalities he's developed over the 2 games. His Jedi version was such an amazing dynamic character, rising from the vile depths of being literally develped to be an assassin fueled by the dark side of the force, using both sides for good. His Sith version was equally awesome as he has tremendous power and honestly could be considered one of( if not, THE) the most powerful beings in the Galaxy.
Raised from the dark side but managed to walk towards the light side
I miss Starkiller.
Solomon Thenardier same
Mavik I think it's the fact The we won't have any mention of him, at least for now. We also won't have any more appearances of Starkiller, and we won't have a Force Unleashed III because of Lucasarts having a low budget at the time and George Lucas selling Star Wars.
Solomon Thenardier What if StarWars the force unleashed 3 was relaesd
The dark side is strong in him he could never truly die
And the dark clone of starkiller ended the rebellion plus the original starkiller could destroy a star destroyer the dark clone had two coming to kill him so he could easily destroy both and go on to kill the emperor and if he was quick enough save Vader from death
I liked Lord Starkiller’s Armor in the hoth level. Very fitting out of all three. Feels Sith like other Sith Warriors.
A better version of Kylos armor
@@rangopistacho6928 you mean kykos armor is a worse version of Darth starkillers armor
"It allowed him to defeat luke, which vader never could"
Did you watch empire? Because Vader defeated the crap out of luke in that one.
yet luke never submitted to him
Also luke wasn't a Jedi master or very good with a lightsaber yet, he really only knew how to block blaster bolts at that time
Block a nerf bullet with a sword then block 1 swing from a slow big man
In legends it has been stated many times that in EP6 Vader and Luke were EQUALS.
NEITHER of them wanted to kill each other,shit Luke was even more casual than the angry darksider
@@utoresa5193 empire my dude.
Vader rag dolled luke in empire.
sometimes when im alone in the bathtub i like to use barbeque sauce instead of water and pretend im ribs
Same, but for me it's lube and I pretend I'm a giant cock
Quick Silvey
Seems you're compensating for something
Venom Snake lol
Me too mate
elso wtf?
It would be cool to see Darth Starkiller in the expanded universe
Make it happen Disney! :))))))
beau galaz yeah they might not
Disney converted every aspect of the Expanded Universe into Legends (except for what they cherry picked for the films). so he already is.
bunke well in a way
He’s not a darth
Lord Starkiller would have been WAY more interesting for Episodes 7, 8 & 9 than Kylo Ren
bruh you want rey to immediately die or something
@@Strifeu yes
@@travisbartlett7385 damn y'all really hate Rey That Much
Yes
@@thesinofwrath092 yea she sucks
One of the coolest character designs Ive ever seen
#MakeStarkillerCanonAgain
sorry that will most likely never happen... :(
#PleaseNoMoreMarySue
Elino Villegas no. Fuck Galen Gary Stu
Starkiller wasn't a mary sue, so that's not related.
Elino Villegas Starkiller Forever
I’ve always thought the reduction of a force connection due to tissue loss was a glossing over of a principle that only yoda truly understood. “Between you, me, the tree, the rock…” he didn’t mention the rock for no reason. Like all force training heavily involved the concept of overcoming self-imposed limitations, so too is the concept of cybernetics interrupting the force. The force itself is not limited by “crude matter.” When Vader realized his force connection was diminished, he assumed and was repeatedly told it was the cybernetics and organic tissue loss. I think the truth is that what blocks the force connection is the individual’s self perception. They’ve lost a part of themselves, and therefore they become convinced that they are diminished in essence. Do or do not. You fail because you don’t believe. The force connection isn’t reduced at all. It was Vader’s self doubt which the emperor reinforced constantly that reduced his connection. Which palpatine also believed. Luke may have believed it too. A lot of what yoda said was lost on him. Because he was a cryptic little butthole. I’m very convinced that if yoda was just a head on a robot body, he would have been the only force user that retained his force connection as it was before.
Like kota from the first game right?
I would love to see more of the Sith Master Starkiller/Sith Apprentice Luke Skywalker. That sounds like an absolutely destructive duo.
“How Powerful Is Starkiller?”
Me: yes
RustyRayne indeed
No, he wasn't, read the novelization and literally all legends source material on Vader, his raw power was only second to that of Sidious's, and the novel implies that Galen and Vader matched each other in force combat, while Vader was the better duelist.
I like to believe that the spirit of Darth Vader lingered, only to be converted back to the light side by Obi-Wan and Yoda in the afterlife. Resuming his identity as Anakin Skywalker, and allowing Starkiller and Luke to destroy the Emperor, I think he was able to commune with his son and bring him back from the dark side. Luke would then attempt to redeem Starkiller and would either succeed in doing so or be forced to kill him in self defense. Thus, the Sith would be destroyed and Anakin would still have fulfilled the Prophecy of the Chosen One, albeit in an even more roundabout manner.
True ending
@@Mamuff5 In an alternate universe maybe.
@@GeonusKaikun of course, I Love multiverses on this type of media
When is the damn Forces unleashed remastered PS4 edition coming already!
Mo_ Musashi_28 it won’t. Disney wont let that happen
You can play it via retrocompatibility on the Xbox one
Its on playstation now
That's what I'm saying bro he's just better to me his move set was way more fluid and smooth just imagine it coming out now it would be amazing
@Adolf Hitler master?
The tattooine stalker armor is literally the coolest outfit ive seen in starwars.
The first game was amazingly superior in every way compared to the second game.
A little bit better than the First its like
Star Wars Force Unleashed: Play As Starkiller Sith Master And The Dark Lord Of the Sith
Star Wars Force Unleashed 2: Play As Galen Marek The Jedi Knight Hunter And Fallen Jedi
2nd game was too damn short
@@Dash740 yeah
The second game had better saber combat IMO.
+The Stupendous Wave Great video. However, I feel that you sort of shortchanged Starkiller with several of your statements, such as "The Emperor allowed Starkiller to have armor with which he could wield force lightning because, unlike with Vader, he didn't fear Starkiller ever reaching a point at which he could challenge him" or "Starkiller was able to defeat Obi Wan, although he had a difficult time doing so." See below:
1. You seem to have neglected Palpatine's direct statement to Starkiller in the dark side ending of The Force Unleashed: "You had such promise. You could've been my equal, my successor." We can deduce from this statement that Starkiller always possessed a force potential close to that of Palpatine. After he was reconstructed, his connection to the force was somewhat diminished, though we cannot say exactly to what extent. But if Palpatine was allowing Starkiller superior armor to that of Vader - armor that would somewhat restore his "lost" connection - I think this once again returns his potential to being in the ballpark of Palpatine's.
2. To say that Starkiller struggled beating Kenobi is unsubstantiated by the game play. Kenobi is relatively easy for Starkiller to defeat, both in life and as a force ghost. Hence, why Starkiller essentially grabbed Kenobi's force ghost and drop-kicked it at the conclusion of the duel.
Frank Halloran agreed man, it's weird, some yoitubers blow galens accomplishes way out of proportion, while some short change him. It's a funny conundrum. Galen=GOAT
D Patrick Andrew A lord deception, he defeated Ti, and she killed herself, Kota he did defeat, he thought he killed him but kind of saw him alive and let's say he's weaker than Vader, Galen defeated the EMPEROR! He would have killed him if Kota hadn't stopped him
+D Patrick Andrew To add on to +Jake Jones's rebuttals, can you then explain how Starkiller outright killed Vader in the dark side ending of The Force Unleashed? I think that pretty clearly illustrates that Starkiller did, in fact, possess the strength in the force to defeat Vader. To add additional support to this conclusion, I will reference a statement from George Lucas himself, given in The Empire Strikes Back Director's Commentary, on Anakin's force power levels: pre-Mustafar and post-Mustafar. "Before Mustafar, Anakin had the inherent force potential to reach 200% of Palpatine's full power. After he lost his remaining limbs and suffered severe tissue lost on Mustafar, however, Anakin's maximum achievable power level was reduced to a mere 80% of Palpatine's." From this, we can see it is sufficiently stated by Lucas that Vader's maximum potential power is now less than Palpatine's maximum potential power - a full 20% less, in fact. Now, I reiterate my direct statement from Palpatine to Starkiller from the dark side ending of The Force Unleashed: "You could have been my equal, my successor." Palpatine definitively states that Starkiller had the potential to be his equal. Ergo, it logically follows that Starkiller, having the potential in the force to equal Palpatine, is, in fact, more powerful than Vader, who was capped at 80% of Palpatine's full power. Pen-ultimately, I remind you that it is clearly shown in the dark side ending of The Force Unleashed that, had Starkiller gone after Vader, he would have killed him. Thus, we can logically conclude that Starkiller had indeed surpassed Vader at that point, placing him at greater than 80% of the Emperor's full power, but perhaps not quite his equal yet. Furthermore, can you cite your source with that statement from Sam Witwer? If you can't, I'm afraid I won't be able to count it as credible. I have sufficiently cited every claim I have made in my arguments thus far.
+Jake Jones I only say this because, if I don't, I know that +D Patrick Andrew A will. Starkiller's defeat of the Emperor is... questionable. I agree that he may very well have struck down Palpatine had it not been for Kota's intervention. But, as many would argue, it appears that Palpatine may have deliberately thrown the duel and allowed Starkiller to win. This was because Palpatine knew that Starkiller would be permanently consumed by the dark side if he were to kill him, and this means that the Sith would live on, which was all Palpatine could have hoped for. In fact, he knew this risk with pre-Mustafar Anakin and had come to terms with it, even stating to Yoda in Episode III that he knew "Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." That, of course, changed with what took place on Mustafar. However, we can see here that Palpatine cares (to some extent) about the survival of the Sith Order. In that moment of the light side ending of The Force Unleashed, where Starkiller has the opportunity to take out Palpatine once and for all, I do believe personally that Palpatine had come to terms with the idea of Starkiller destroying him, as it ensured the Sith Order (and the Empire) would be left in the hands of a powerful dark sider - one with potential power equivalent to his own.
Frank Halloran 👏👏 this dude man, we defending Galen like a boss!
+The Stupendous Wave What if Han Solo never met Chewbacca?
What if the Empire never discovered Echo Base on Hoth?
What if Mace Windu killed Dooku on Geonosis?
What if Galen Marek survived the Death Star duel in TFU1?
JediAcolyte22 that last one is this video
+Blake chandler This video covers the already covered non-canon dark side ending of TFU1 I'm referring to the ending where Galen Marek survives dueling the Emperor and Vader after his explosive duel with the Emperor.
JediAcolyte22 he did survive play tfu2
What if Jango Fett had the Dark Saber before Pre Vizsla.
Sorry not helping.
Forge Pivots Videos if you remember he didn't survive you play as a clone through out the second game because Galen died in the first one
Awesome! :)
Love this alternate version of Galen Marek, the story with him attacking Palpatine, losing many parts of his body, getting a cybernetic suit and prosthetics like Vader which were extremely painful, he tracking Obi-Wan to Tattooine and killing him, then he turning Luke to the Dark Side on Hoth by forcing Luke to use it to save his friends! X)
Sith-Stalker Galen's armour is CREEPY, with the helmet, the human arms ending in nasty scissor-hand claws!! :O Don't know the Galen Marek story well enough to say fairly which version is more powerful.
I absolutely _love_ the design of this armor! I really hope they use it or at least take inspiration from it in future Star Wars material.
Reducing your tissue removes a little of your connection to the Force? So 6-foot tall Yoda would be more powerful than 2-foot tall Yoda, based on nothing but his height?
Anyone saying an injury cuts Force potential misses something crucial. Size matters not, luminous beings we are.
Well apparently not in Legends. Yeah, I disagree with it, too
Jhan919 If that Yoda would have the same Midiclorian concentration per cell as the original,then I quess so.
Daegan Noel I don't that what Yoda meant.Darth Vader is basically proof that losing limps weakens one's connection to the force.Yoda propably meant that even someone whoses naturally physically weak can become powerful with force augmentation.Then again,maybe not.
Manlets eternally btfo
So none of this is canon?
Yes
thanks man, I appreciate it!
In this case, I'm glad it's not. Force Unleashed was fun, but honestly the character and plot felt really bullshit
John Peacekeeper agreed
Kaden Kay no :(
I loved these games, playing as a sith being able to utilize both force powers and lightsaber combat so fluintly, it was so fun
I used your other "how powerful was starkiller" video as an exams project a year ago and it was so fun reseaching and listening to what you had to say, its also how i found your channel and loved it since(btw i passed with almost max grade so thanks again)
Unlimited power, now give me likes.
Yes my lord.
Emperor Palpatine no 👎
Blood Reaper 88 Then you are lost!
As you wish my lord
Emperor Palpatine ayee dark side stuff. I'm your father
while Lord starkiller would've been more ruthless, Galen would've been more powerful. depending on how and when they'd fight, it could've gone either way. the real question is "how strong would Galen have become if he survived the events on the death star?"
Tristan If he reached his full potential he would have become as powerful as Sidious,this is directly stated by Sidious himself
Revan To think Anakin had the potential to become twice as poweful as Darth Sidious...
Darth Molalikith Well,that statement seems weird.In legends Grand master Luke looks waaay stronger than twice as powerful as Sidious and Luke has the same potential as Anakin.Maybe that statement is not meant to be mathematically accurate but more like a way for Lucas to say that Anakin would have been way stronger,like when we say stuff like"Our new house is ten times better than old one!".The 80% for Vaders potential seems accurate.
Uto Resa 519 Grand Master Luke was not twice as powerful as Dark Empire Sidious lol.He was more poweful but not by that much
Darth Molalikith anakin is starwars Jesus he basically would be a god watch clone wars
I kinda wanna see this character's story expanded in the alternate timeline. Starkiller really interests me
Emperor to Starkiller: You held such potential once...
Also the Emperor: *is the one who dropped a friggin’ ship on him*
0:09 the subtitle say hitler
The Expanded Expanded Universe
Starhitler
He killed vader in cold blood, no wonder germany gets such a bad reputation
@No Wallet There's a video of Adolf Hitler and Darth Vader having a rap battle of who is the most evil.
Starkiller is Nazi
I'm still waiting for the third video game of the force unleashed
Mega Knight 360 James so am I but it went the way of the clone wars
Pffft, good luck with that, it'll probably Won't come for a thousand years.
If a fan gets is good with programming and tech they could make the third force unleashed with two different campaigns one where you play as the good clone of starkiller and one where you play as the dark apprentice
Mega Knight 360 James me to
Im working on a prototype if you are still interested
I often fall asleep at night to your videos. Not because they are bad. But its it's almost like a bed time story that helps me drift off. But I also watch your videos while I am awake and have learned sssssoooo much lore from you.
The fact that Galen could even hold his own against the Palpy really shows how powerful he is.
just like always, the stupendous wave makes great videos!
Just Like always there's a kiss ass in the comments
Just like always, people judging me on my opinions
Thanks so much!
Can u make a theory about what would happen if Star killer did train Luke Skywalker
Darth starkiller*
I would have loved to see one more DLC mission in which Dark Starkiller fought Palpatine. I guess we kind of got that in TFU II in the Endor DLC
(Kills Vader)
Palpatine: Nah, he'll never be as much of a threat as Vader!
So, would yall say the dark timeline StarKiller clone from Unleashed 2 Endor was more powerful than Darth Starkiller as presented here? I mean he had all his limbs, and he was even able to pierce the popularity armor that Han and Chewie have.
Don't forget he killed leia and probably went on to save vader
True. I do love how he killed leia by cathing her blade with one saber then just shanking her with the other. Also he was meditating on top of the building at the end, with Palps having force lightinged Vader to death on board the death star 2 and sending a destroyer to bombard the forest.
I can imagine starkiller completely destroying the emperor and making his own empire completely out of sith apprentices he would probably be a better emperor too
And that would have made a really cool force unleashed 3 where you play as a apprentice of starkiller and kill all of the stormtroopers and the old imperials... Even cooler if you could choose how your character looked...
If you'll recall Leia mentions how she wojnt fall to the dark like her brother, so in that dark timeline there is a dark corrupted Luke like in the ending of the Hoth DLC.
Starkiller should of been canon to the starwars universe. Why, Disney, why did you change it so. There should be a,petition for him to be canon. Just saying, :D,lol
I dont think Starkiller has ever been cannon Disney or no
I believe he was original canon, before Disney came along and said everything side related is not canon anymore. For instance starwars the clone wars TV series got made non-canon. Which, sucks, but it is what it is.
Starkiller was part of the old eu which was canon before the Disney reboot and here are quotes to back up that statement www.theexpandeduniverse.com/quotes-databank
MrMasterchief117117 I liked TFU. But I HATED Starkiller. Good riddance.
ARBITOR117 bullshit, starkiller is bullshit.
At 0:26, that's not actually what he looks like under the armor. It says that the picture is just a variation of what the armor could have been. Something that kind of shows that this is just a variation and not what he actually looks like, is that his left hand is mechanical instead of just his right hand. Although only the right hand was supposed to be mechanical. Also, in one of the DLC quests the good version of Galen Marek fights the evil version, knocking off his helmet. but both of the bottom half and upper half of his head is there.
Love the video btw, 10/10.
His body on the pic looks like the batman who laughs body.
Waitttt star killer isnt canon? How do the star wars time lines work? Theres canon legends and??
Just Canon and Legends, although this dark side ending is an Infinities story which were intentionally non-canon stories long before Disney came along. And yeah, Starkiller ain't canon, Star Wars Rebels has replaced it in the timeline.
KikBlava Rebels hasn't exactly replaced The Force Unleashed. The Force Unleashed is the story of how the Rebel Alliance formed. In Rebels, the Rebel Alliance has already been founded by the time Ezra comes along.
The games take place between episode 3 and 4
KikBlava that's so lame star killer is way cooler than star wars rebels
Darth Jadus so rebels rogue one and the force unleashed games are all in between rots and anh
What about the Dark Apprentice clone from The Force Unleashed 2?
this is just an alternative ending.
From what I’ve seen in the Star Wars Clone Wars 3 LEGO game, starkiller (in the game called “Vader’s Apprentice (Classic) when you collect all 10 minikits for him) he holds his lightsaber backwards, just like Ashoka
It’s safe to say that grafting the armor on starkiller didn’t make him weaker, but only made him more powerful than before.
I would love a comic/book continuation of this storyline it had so much potential
I would have to say Lord Starkiller is everything Darth Vader isn't.
He unlike Vader doesn't have any more light in him as many jedi masters saw as they dueled Vader long enough.
He unlike Vader is able to cast force lightning, even stronger than that of count dooku.
He unlike Vader also has access to his entire body, including speed, meaning instead of rebuilding himself from the ground up, he can resume where he was and refined his art to mastery.
He unlike Vader also let the hate flow through him. He nothing to mourn or be guilty about making him virtually unhinged with grief.
Lord Starkiller is pretty much a far stronger, faster and more skilled version of Darth Vader.
I think he has a better chance at defeating Palpatine as he even said it himself "You could have been my successor, my equal."
What happened to the light in starkiller
I reckon he can still beat palatine it's just he never gets a good chance
Nah he weaker version, Vader at the time was weak and former shell of his past, over the years Vader would grow to power, he beat revenge of the sith - new hope Vader but one it got to empire strike back Vader, star killer stood no chance the novel points out how Vader casually put no effort into his strikes and would ragdoll him in the force, star killer even hopes the battle could at least end in a stalemate, and only won due to Vader basically giving him the win at the end, so star killer definitely stand no chance against return of the Jedi Vader who reached back to his power as Anakin and surpass it
@@spinozilla2421 TFU Vader was pre ANH Vader, and even then he had enough Jedi kills in the purge under his belt already. Your describing the clone fight btw where StarKiller wanted a stalemate and Vader improved his blade work as Galen Marek did in fact beat Vader.
Lord Star Killer is Galen Marek with a few more years of training. His darkside usage is also more than Vaders as he has access to Force Lightning.
And on top of all this Starkiller was focused enough to intergrate the force into his duelling skills, which nobody else in the entirety of Star Wars has ever been able to do except for him.
I want a movie and a “what if” sequel with this version of him
Damn, that sacrifice that Luke made by turning into the dark side , just for the sake of his friends, is one of most Jedi things that a Jedi could, especially, where the objective is not to conquer but to defeat sidious
Last time I was this late
The sector was NOT CLEAR NOT CLEAR
And clones had to WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS
Trestle yes but I still don't like sand or have the high ground....
But you know... another happy landing
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He pulled a star destroyer down from orbit that's pretty impressive in its self
I hope Starkiller can appear as the antagonist for Jedi Fallen Order 2, that way they cn make Starkiller canon again.
Make starkiller appear in a movir
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If they did, they would nerf him.
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CoZmic Slasher that’s the bullshit part
CoZmic Slasher this is not disney
*Palpatine believed Starkiller would never become powerful enough to question him.*
Luke:...
Starkiller:....
Starkiller to Luke: Hold my beer.
Palpatine: Fuck
I would love to see Galen Marek or starkiller's character return to Star Wars in any sense
The bit of info at 1:08 is wrong. Palpatine himself freely admitted that Starkiller would eventually surpass him. It's just that Starkiller is a revolutionary with the force, particularly force lighting (which he taught himself) and most of Starkiller's body was not cybernetic so his suit naturally wouldn't have interfered with his usage of it because, for example, he didn't need a respirator like Vader.
I gotta say, Lord Starkiller has one of the most edgiest character designs in star wars.
Really, blood, gore and scissor hands?
Might as well paint him red and black, give him a bazooka, and have his only lines being "Damn".
can you do a what if Darth Starkiller's was the actual continuity? will Starkiller and Luke defeat the Emperor? what would Snoke do? will Snoke train Leia?
But Leia died in the battle of endor DLC
This version is like a literal version of Vader who actually killed Luke’s father and I think the blade esthetic kind of implies suffering a bit more than Vader’s armor. It is also like an alternate version of Vader’s being more lightweight looking and almost ninja like rather than Knight like.
on Starkiller's armor his belt, Sidious even added a 3 band graphic equalizer simply to turn the bass up whenever necessary.
I enjoyed this one due to how he was I fused with this armor. I think this Star killer was actually more powerful than Vader since Palpatine said "you had such promise. You could've been my successor, my equal" I think the maulkiller clone would've been more powerful than this one due to how that killer was more infused with the dark side than this one and more in tune with it. I do wonder what happened to the StarKiller clone that went to the Endor to destroy Leia
So what's this timeline called? Dark Legends?
Unlimited power.
Alex FRD high ground
*STARKILLER*
called. shite legends
Rise of starkiller maybe?
Palpatine believed starkiller would never be powerful enough to challenge him but believed that Vader could. Now imagine a full powered Anakin Skywalker who is able to do everything that starkiller could and a lot more while being twice more powerful......yeah
Starkiller is one of my favorite star wars characters of all time and his sith stalker armor is extremely cool. I like starkiller best when he is in that armor.
Do what if the emperor was the one who died in the lighting clash that him and starkiller had in the.ight side ending. So starkiller lives and the emperor dies
Langford_artist Luke never trains, vader is executed. And republic comes back. Maybe the Jedi dont Galen was never a Jedi. He won't rebuild it.
I honestly think Starkiller is more powerful as a grey jedi he can use both sides of the force
Kinda like mace windu
He brought down a star destroyer with his mind. Very powerful.
Tatooine Starkiller Armor is my fav armor . Strongest force user with coolest armor , with a interesting story .
Dark side starkiller needs a new game
already a hater at 1 minute??? DANG THAT IS SAD
What?
I love the Sith Stalker armor, but I think it sucks that we never get to see what happens after the Hoth DLC.
1:25 ''Despite loosing some of his connection to the force due to his loss of tissue..'' He must have lost like 40% of his force potential when this happened. That is a major loss.
What about the Dark Apprentice? I thought he was stronger than Sith Stalker? Could you do a video on the Dark Apprentice please?
aster4jaden It's never specifically said.But based on feats Sith Stalker is superior to Dark Apprentice.Killing a force ghost,easily holding the millenium falcon...dark apprentice lacks these showings
Revan but here's the thing, just because we haven't seen it doesn't mean it's not possible. Stalker had 2 DLCs to the Dark Apprentice's 1, so there's less to go on. We also have to take into account that the Stalker armor/injuries does limit Stalker. The Dark Apprentice has no such limit. Also, Vader himself calls the Dark Apprentice more powerful than Galen ever was. Finally, Starkiler's clone has just as much, but likely more, power than Galen did. Thus, logically, one can conclude that another clone that differs only in its ability to overcome identity crisis and fully embraced the dark side, is even more powerful than that.
aster4jaden the dark apprentice only serves Vader since he killed all imperials and rebels in the battle of endor he knew palpating was coming to kill him due to his connection to the force the dark apprentice could easily take out both star destroyers and then kill palpatine in order to avenge Vader plus Vader has the perfect apprentice so starkiller wouldn't betray him like the other clone and the original
Revan He didn't kill Obi Wans force ghost only weakened it that's why you still hear him tell Luke to run after he gets weakened.
Revan It could actually be inferred that the events of the two Stalker DLC's still took place just the same with the Dark Apprentice based on Leia becoming a jedi after Luke fell on Hoth.
Wouldn't it be wise to artificially enrich those micro-organisms into a goo and put them into the red tanks inside Starkillers new body? This way you can get a medichlorian count of 20k+ pretty easy. Together with force conducting metal (like the one from the star forge) Starkiller would be an artificially choosen one, controlled by Palpatine. But then again... it would be bad for the emperor and the Rule of Two to have such a monster as n apprentice.
I remember playing the second force unleashed game on PS3 as a tiny little thing. Now I’m older, and want to play it again.
That Sith Stalker suit looks sooooo good man. Sith Starkiller easily one of my favourite Star Wars characters.
Starkiller is the most powerful force user ever. I bet he would even give the Force family a run for their money. I also think that as a sith lord his armor is more intimidating than Vader's.
He's not. Both Luke and Anakin have demonstrated more raw power. Easily. We're talking like the difference between starkiller moving a star destroyer, and luke moving a fucking star. There are also numerous non-skywalkers who have demonstrated similar power.
@@arcadeinvader8086 Until they are made canon and their stories are expanded a little bit, Starkiller is number 1.
@@Amell_Wesker Sorry my man as much as i love starkiller i dont think he beats either sidious nor vitiate in force power and if u dont believe me consider this, can starkiller wipe out an entire planet and leave it so damaged that even the force doesnt exist there and the planet is basically a void in the force. The answer is no he cant. Second after doing that can he take all the life that was taken from said world by doing that and use it to basically make himself immortal, no he cant. There is a few other things that go for vitiate there and thats even mentioning what palpatine is capable of so yeah like i said as much as i love starkiller he is not the most powerful force user ever.
@@Amell_Wesker Grand master luke and anakin Have demonstrated Way more Power than Star killer ever did. Luke could almost 1v1 Abelioth while anakin Put the son and daughter to the knees.
@@ausaf9096 I bet Starkiller and Revan could do both.
since the force flows through living things, and losing it weakens the force, would increasing body mass (I.E. getting fat) increase your force capacity? So if Palpatine put on some weight he'd be more powerful? if you think so, would someone like Luke gain more by getting fat than an average force user?
Standout6 what about a 6 foot Yoda?
Nah I wanna see Luke get incredibly buff and just shred everyone
Vader was only unable to track them down to Tatoine because of all the sand
Man this Sith Starkiller's Armor looks so Total Rockets(which means awesome in every way) I really wonder if it’s even sold as a costume.