You convinced me to buy the PX7’s and also subscribe, great in depth review with personality - something frankly lacking in most TH-cam tech review channels.
Hi John, just want to make you a huge compliment for your videos. You present damn well, are always enthusiastic and foremost you stay neutral while providing us all the major elements to make are own decisions. I'm a pretty saturated guy concerning audio equipment, but keep on enjoying your videos. Continue being yourself, you're doing a great job.
When I first got into wireless headphones nearly 3 years ago I always loved how the Bowers & Wilkins headphones sound, but the comfort was a deal breaker so I went with the Sennheiser PXC 550s back then. When the PX7s first came to my attention I knew I'd get them. I have rocked the PX7s since shortly after they were released. I love them so much I don't miss my Sennheiser PXC 550s.
Very informative and entertaining review . Its reassuring to see companies not afraid to have their own signature sound and not try to please everyone.
Thanks John... I found the review useful. I was quite undecided about whether to get the B&W, but your review helped with the decision. Can't wait for them to arrive!!
Bought the original PX for a steal on Amazon. Same Drivers as far as I know. I really love these headphone and the sound signature, that Bowers delivers. THe sony always sounded mushy to my ears... Great review! Thank you!
I find your review interesting as they often are. I have the P7, the PX7 as well as the XM2 and XM3 series. I actually just received the PX7 just this afternoon, so i am still forming an opinion. But i must say that the sony 3 do sound better in some ways but at higher volumes than many would listen at. I like them a lot more than the previous iterations. The P7 sound signature is so extremely V shaped yet fun in many ways. The PX7 are more grown up and share much with the P9 in my opinion. Thanks for your opinion.
Great review! funny I own both Sony and Bowers and you confirmed that it wasn't me going crazy they are both so good but with particular music one is better than the other. So my wife uses the Sonys for podcasts and her radio style music and I use the Bowers for my Hiphop, R&B, Dancehall and Reggaeton. but call me crazy the original PX plugged in USBC NC off just WOW those are my at home headphones for sure.
your review was spot on ... there are genres where the px7 shines. One thing though these need a good few hours of burn in to get the intended sound signature. Bluetooth connectivity with the app is sketchy. They not perfect but they are def amazing cans!
I see a comment below asking about the Sennheiser Momentum. For me there are 4 different bluetooth headphones above all the rest; New Bose, New Sennheiser Momentum, this Sony and this PX7. Shame you didn't compare all four. My personal opinion is that the new Bose has the best noise cancelling (11 levels), the Sennheiser has just about the best sound reproduction, the Sony is probably the most comfortable and has a few more features, the Bose for me is a little too heavy on Bass, but that's because of the music I listen to. At the end of the day the results for all four is similar to what you say here; they're all exceptional in their own ways and I doubt anyone would be disappointed with any of them. PS. I work somewhere where these are sold so I get to test them all continually.
Mate so well presented. I have the old B&W P7W and they're great quality. Looking for an upgrade and I'm still undecided. Will probably try the PX7 on 30 day trial. Thanks for the review.
I like the way you introduce the products and the images and analogies you choose to explain all the different specs and nuances of the audio devices. I sense your approach is currently more focused on evagelising the audio newcomers. A little bit too of a reductionist sometimes, hehe, but, honestly, very good video and speech. Congratulations, John, and thank you very much for being there. Greetings from Madrid.
Great review as usual John. I want to send you a big thank you. You’re making me discover a lot of things about music that I wasn’t aware of. I’ve started using Tidal Hi-fi, I upgraded my listening chain system and I’m discovering a lot of new music I really love thanks to your job. Thank you so much
Great review thanks. I have the P7 wireless and just seen a good deal on the PX7 - lock-down impulse purchase ahead. Tried the Sony wf1000xm3's recently and whilst I couldn't fault them, they just weren't quite as engaging as I hoped (swapped for Cambridge Audio Melomania 1's btw) so looks like that lovely B&W sound is the way forward for me. Cheers.
A thorough analysis and, as always, a good video, John. Many thanks. It would be nice to see something in the “Under $200 Range,” though, understanding that there will be something lost as money is saved. 👍
Ok, I'm an audio newbie for sure, but that bit that you went into about the bluetooth codec connection varying between listening devices sounds pretty freakin critical! Since no audio stores are opened right now bc of the coronavirus I've been watching a ton of reviews on headphones I'm interested in and NO ONE has articulated this detail! Which I'm sure must be at least part of the reason why there's such variance in terms of opinion on the sound of different wireless headphones. Thank you for sharing your knowledge good sir! Also, Bends all the way haha. Cheers
Great video. I have a B & W P7 (wired) and also the Sony WH-1000XM3. They are very different, but it depends on how and where you use to them to say one is better than the other. They are both very good. My personal opinion is that the Sony is good for the audio from video, but if you prefer pure sound quality the B&W is better.
That's like pork pie or apple pie - fortunately we don't have to choose cos we can have both albums along with helpings of In Rainbows and Moon Shaped Pool! But back to headphones I have an old pair of B&W P5s that I still really enjoy and I haven't quite got used to noise cancelling ones yet - I'm kinda spooked by the background silence like standing on a cliff edge. As always a great video and carefully considered.
I have used the B&W PX for more than two years almost daily and I love their sound. I don't even use the noise cancelling most of the time, except on planes. They are far and away the best wireless headphones I have ever owned. On overseas flights, however, I have noticed the backs of my ears starting to ache after four hours or so from the pressure of the slightly too small ear cups. A version that has the amazing sound of the PX with a more comfortable design sounds like heaven. How does the sound compare between the PX and the PX7? The same or does one have an edge in one respect or another.
Anthony Flynn Hi there! You wouldn’t have happened to try the B&O H9. I’m considering that and the PX, but I can’t really try either because of lockdown. Also, do you know where the PX is made?
Wonderful! Just ordered the px7 carbon on a sale. Should arrive here on Tuesday. I got the Sony earbuds 1000mx3 but the Sony sound isn’t for me. It just doesn’t go where I want to be. I have the shure aion 50 as my bt headphones.. and the sound is superb.. it’s just not alive ? I am a nr 1 Focal fan. But they would be too expensive. Going to use the Px7 for running
Funny that. Was thinking of upgrading my Sony XM2's. And love my B&W speakers. Noise cancellation is a key factor for me. But so is bass, as I mostly listen to progressive house & techno. Will definitely shortlist the px7 now.
My biggest takeaway from this video, is how amusing the videographer must've looked... taking close up video of someone's ears on a tube train :D Any chance of the Sennheiser Momentum 3 next - they're the others on my list!
I don't like over ear phones. Nor do I ever intend to buy any. But I will click on J.D's video every time to see what he has to say about the product he reviews. He is THAT GOOD. Thank you John! Excellent, as always. One question...what are you doing with Diana's Airpods? Are you secretly dating her? LOL!
Hi There, just wondering what these sound like with the cable? ie you use the wireless when your out and about, but the cable when at home. Is there a noticeable sonic difference? Does the PX7 become a lossless or HiRes headphone or does the processing dumb it down?
@@DJSPYROOF I'm using the PX7 myself and I haven't noticed a big difference when using them wired/wireless. When using them via cable however, they need to be powered on so that's something to keep in mind. They support up to 96khz/24-bit high resolution playback.
YES, it makes a difference! Wire them in with the highest quality USB-C to USB-C cable you can buy. I bought a Baseus 100W USB Type-C 1.5m Elbow Design Power Delivery Hammer Cable, which has a "Coaxial Cable Core" and MY WORD the PX7s come alive! I have no idea what DAC B&W built into these, but it needs the power output from a laptop to power it. I am using a basic MacBook air, an old slow one, but the sound quality from Apple Music 16 bit 44 Khz and up is jaw-dropping!
Bought the PC (old version) about a year ago, and I got a hardcase with it as well in a black finish. A agree about the firm fit of the PX which is not perfect for someone who wear glasses. Besides Bluetooth, you can use them wired as welll
You should check out Beyer's Amiron Wireless as well. Quite a leap in sound quality, albeit at a loss of portability, no NC and not the best looking headphones. They sound very good with a wire, so mostly use them with wire at home, and BT when I'm out of the house.
Using UAPP or foobar you could EQ compensate for the PX7's emphasized bass. They'd be my choice because I think the Sony sounds way too forgiving, like it wants to please you too much and it makes everything sound warm and dull. The lack of detail this causes and the narrow soundstage made me feel almost claustrophobic. I like the B&W sound but curious about the Drop/THX Panda too. Any idea if you'll be reviewing those?
Like you've said, John, both records are excelent in their particular ways. "OK Computer" was the first Radiohead CD that I've bought (on the released day) and I really dived deep into it. It's really more straightforward, not only because is more organic sounding but also because has got an airy feeling. On the other hand, "Kid A" is almost like a comet from outer space, more dense, more mechanical/claustrophobic but with warmer lagoons on the way. I love both. It's like picking up an album from my most beloved artists/bands like Bowie, XTC, The Cure, Brian Eno...
Just remember that most households have more than just one good headphones. I have and love the Sony XM3, my wife have the Bose QC35 and can't go without it. A few months later she saw the Bose 700 White and Gold edition and wants that one now, so guess what headphone is coming to me now 😘😄😔.
Interesting review. After 3 years I wonder which of the B&W and Sony has proved the most reliable? My 3 year old B&W PX7 s have stopped working after only 25-30 hours and I’m attempting a firmware update via the app and it’s so far unsuccessful as the phones are either not recognised or the app tells me the phones aren’t charged enough for the update even though they’ve been on charge for hours and the app shows 100% charge level!
I've also got an LG V40 after watching your videos. It's quite a great phone, though I wish the volume on it pushed a bit more. Paired with a 500GB SD, can't do wrong with it! Though, I do only use it for music, as I would never let go of my Huawei P30 Pro!
You can use AptX HD on an iOS device. Buy the Reiyin Bluetooth 5.0 ($ 19.50) from Aliexpress and plug it into the USB port or use it with an Apple Camera Kit on an iPod or iPad. I could hardly believe it, but it works. The sound quality with Aptx HD headphones is very good. The connection quality is fine. I listened to the B&W P7 bluetooth. Like the Sony WH-1000XM3 too much low for my taste. John Danko says it, but is not bothered. I am. The Bose QC35 and the new 700 are much more neutral.
I really enjoy the freedom of wireless bluetooth headphones and I find myself wearing them around the house while I'm doing chores. My one quibble with them is long-term comfort. They tend to feel much heavier than my corded passive headphones. My WH-1000XM2 headphones are only 50g heavier than my Sennheiser HD598 headphones (275g vs. 225g) but that seems to make all the difference for me. I couldn't even begin to imagine how a 310g headphone would feel after several hours of use. I was considering upgrading to the WH-1000XM3 just for the 22g weight savings. P.S. using LDAC with FLAC files might not be truly lossless, but it's pretty close and a lot better than aptX HD. P.S.S. Shocked that having any more bass than what the Sony offers could be considered a good thing. The bass on my WH-1000XM2 is the most bass heavy headphone out of any I own... it's bombastic.
I have tried the Sennheiser Momentum 3 and loved the punchy and rumbly bass on them. I'd love to know if the PX7 have a similar or different kind of bass than the Momentums?
Do these Bluetooth headphones come close to a nice pair of wired headphone like sennheiser hd650 in terms of sound quality? I understand they are designed to do slightly different jobs... wouldn’t really wear the sennheiser out and about Edit he kind of answered it at the end
i had a pair. The driver started crackling extremely loudly after a few days and i had to take them back. On exchange, the store only had Momentum 3 in stock, so i got those. I'll say that I thought the B&W sounded better in some ways. Momentums have a bit more layering or soundstage, but the vocals on the BW's were just fabulous. Also the bass on BW is tighter and more detailed. I would have preferred the BW if they had worked.
Looking to get a wireless alternative to my Meze 99 Classic. Hearing John say «every time for more acoustic music», the Sony would seem to be the obvious choice here (listening mostly to old-instruments classical music and occasional folk), but somehow I'm still intrigued about what other people think. (Also, I'd quite like John to talk more about the Momentum 3 and especially one or some of the Beyerdynamic wireless earphones).
didnt you experience the soundquality to drop massively with ANC on? I read this many times. that sound quality suffers more from anc on these than on other anc headphones
Since the Sony has EQ, is it not difficult to compare the sound? What happens if one tailors the Sony more towards the B&W sound signature? Can you get some or all of its forwardness (is that a word?) and excitement?
Mr John Darko,, I am a BIG fan of your work. I really admire the balance between true heavy audiophiles and average music enthusiast. Will you planing to do a material/comparaison to new bluetooth headphone market killer Philips Performance TAPH805BK? Price for this parameters is amazing. Really wish to know what you think about these with this and how it compares with Sony WH1000xm3. Thanks and all the best!
great video ! how do the headphones perform when with a wire? i’ve heared they loose their sound quality. want to get these, but need the ones with the wire too. do you suggest to get 2 different pairs? thank you :)
I don't quite understand your description of the sound. Any chance you have a "wiki" for the terms you used. I'm more familiar with low end, mid and high. And for me the sonys are a bit bass heavy, so I went with their cheaper hearon.2 model
You danced around the fact that the Sony headphones really cannot handle mid-bass across the board. In fact, the muddy bass signature is the big reason why many people are returning the Sony cans in favor of other wireless sets. I just traded my Xm3s for the PX7s. The Bowers are much much better to my ears.
Great review John, and i agree with almost everything. I have three pairs of PX and one PX7, they do sound different. The PX7 has more bass - but - does not tell you anything more about the bass than the PX. The PX is just more exciting to listen too - explosive with fantastic grip. Yes the PX7 is more comfortable but not so nicely made and has better noise cancelling for sure but for me nothing beats the PX for sound.
Agreed. Had the PX and currently own the PX7 and the sound signature on the PX7 is most definitely darker and bassier than the PX. I've got about 50 hours of break in on them so I'm curious as to how they'll shape out when they hit 100+.
Hi John you may answer this before but I don't know how to get high quality audio files, I only have some FLACs and y would like to get wav files, do you know a webpage to download discographies in wav or similar?
Would be interesting to see/hear your thoughts on Bluetooth headphones being wired up. I tried my old Senheiser HD4.50BTNC wired and they sound completely different to when running Bluetooth aptX. I know it defeats the purpose of Bluetooth headphones but it would be good to see if there are good headphones that could also act as quality wired home use headphones too for those on a budget.
Was just wondering that myself as well. I'm relatively new to the quality headphone game (have been using in-ear Bose's (Bluetooth and wired) and want to go the over-ear route, but can't bring myself to buy a Bluetooth version as well as a wired version. Trying to find the best of both worlds, if such a thing exists.
My Sony WH1000XM2s sound very thick, warm and less resolving if I use them wired and turned off. If I turn them on, the wired sound is quite similar to them running aptx or LDAC.
OK Computer is an epic, defining masterpiece, and I can't overstate it's importance to me. But...I prefer KID A as my favorite of their albums. It is beautiful in it's own right, but the fact that it had to follow-up what is known as one of the greatest albums of all time is an incredible feat.
You convinced me to buy the PX7’s and also subscribe, great in depth review with personality - something frankly lacking in most TH-cam tech review channels.
I love these pieces, they're like having a really knowledgeable and patient friend explain this stuff to you. Thanks!
Hi John, just want to make you a huge compliment for your videos. You present damn well, are always enthusiastic and foremost you stay neutral while providing us all the major elements to make are own decisions. I'm a pretty saturated guy concerning audio equipment, but keep on enjoying your videos. Continue being yourself, you're doing a great job.
I always enjoy your active, on- image graphics. Always useful, creative, and entertaining.
Your pacing and breaks are just like a song.
One of your best reviews yet, John. Extremely usefull and packed with relevant comparisons. Good job!
Ok computer for me, I didn’t get into them until quite late. Wishing you all the best John, keep yourself safe, thank god for music in these times!
When I first got into wireless headphones nearly 3 years ago I always loved how the Bowers & Wilkins headphones sound, but the comfort was a deal breaker so I went with the Sennheiser PXC 550s back then. When the PX7s first came to my attention I knew I'd get them. I have rocked the PX7s since shortly after they were released. I love them so much I don't miss my Sennheiser PXC 550s.
I hope Bowers and Wilkins come out of their restructuring well. We don't need fewer players on the block.
Premium video JD
I think you mean, "luxury".
The B&W PX did in fact come with a hard case (very similar to the one found on the new model) at the end of its lifetime.
Great video as always!
I recently purchased the new case separately. It is a MASSIVE improvement over the soft pouch that came with my PXes.
Love that insight on aptX connection between the headphone and source! (7:57) and as usual, great video Darko Audio!
Very informative and entertaining review . Its reassuring to see companies not afraid to have their own signature sound and not try to please everyone.
I am not a big fan of long videos, but you sir (and your team) are fantastic! I like your videos.
When you're looking for a review of these and then you mention 2 of my fav albums in the intro, you sir get a like and sub instantly!
Great review! I happen to really enjoy the Master and Dynamic MW65.. they’re outstanding.
Thanks John... I found the review useful. I was quite undecided about whether to get the B&W, but your review helped with the decision. Can't wait for them to arrive!!
What I can say is the PX7 plays ‘another one bites the dust’ by Queen ...perfectly 👌
I absolutely love John's videos. The production is very nice and they always have good points :)
Great vlog as always - thanks for connecting the music to the tech as well as anyone.
One of the best Bluetooth headphones I listened to! And, dude, what a great music selection! 👌
This is a very well edited video. Great content, will definitely tune in regularly
Bought the original PX for a steal on Amazon. Same Drivers as far as I know. I really love these headphone and the sound signature, that Bowers delivers. THe sony always sounded mushy to my ears... Great review! Thank you!
I find your review interesting as they often are.
I have the P7, the PX7 as well as the XM2 and XM3 series. I actually just received the PX7 just this afternoon, so i am still forming an opinion. But i must say that the sony 3 do sound better in some ways but at higher volumes than many would listen at. I like them a lot more than the previous iterations.
The P7 sound signature is so extremely V shaped yet fun in many ways. The PX7 are more grown up and share much with the P9 in my opinion.
Thanks for your opinion.
Brilliant thorough review John! As a fellow spectacles wearer appreciate your comment on the PX7. Cheers!
Great review! funny I own both Sony and Bowers and you confirmed that it wasn't me going crazy they are both so good but with particular music one is better than the other. So my wife uses the Sonys for podcasts and her radio style music and I use the Bowers for my Hiphop, R&B, Dancehall and Reggaeton. but call me crazy the original PX plugged in USBC NC off just WOW those are my at home headphones for sure.
Jana, amazing camera work and editing, I love how you add the effects. Well done. 🤩
George - you might wanna look at the credits again.
@@DarkoAudio lol sorry. Great editing, John. Love your videos :)
your review was spot on ... there are genres where the px7 shines. One thing though these need a good few hours of burn in to get the intended sound signature. Bluetooth connectivity with the app is sketchy. They not perfect but they are def amazing cans!
nice views of Berlin / Nollendorfplatz :) I was living in those white painted house at @11:50. Was absolutely surprised to see this here
Excellent as always. The director general at the bbc needs to get this on the top gear slot for Sunday evenings. How good would that be.
I see a comment below asking about the Sennheiser Momentum. For me there are 4 different bluetooth headphones above all the rest; New Bose, New Sennheiser Momentum, this Sony and this PX7. Shame you didn't compare all four. My personal opinion is that the new Bose has the best noise cancelling (11 levels), the Sennheiser has just about the best sound reproduction, the Sony is probably the most comfortable and has a few more features, the Bose for me is a little too heavy on Bass, but that's because of the music I listen to. At the end of the day the results for all four is similar to what you say here; they're all exceptional in their own ways and I doubt anyone would be disappointed with any of them. PS. I work somewhere where these are sold so I get to test them all continually.
So what you think sounds better px7 or momentum 3
Mate so well presented. I have the old B&W P7W and they're great quality. Looking for an upgrade and I'm still undecided. Will probably try the PX7 on 30 day trial. Thanks for the review.
I like the way you introduce the products and the images and analogies you choose to explain all the different specs and nuances of the audio devices. I sense your approach is currently more focused on evagelising the audio newcomers. A little bit too of a reductionist sometimes, hehe, but, honestly, very good video and speech. Congratulations, John, and thank you very much for being there. Greetings from Madrid.
Great review as usual John. I want to send you a big thank you. You’re making me discover a lot of things about music that I wasn’t aware of. I’ve started using Tidal Hi-fi, I upgraded my listening chain system and I’m discovering a lot of new music I really love thanks to your job. Thank you so much
Hey nice to see the Berlin Ubahn as background in the video since I live there too! This is a very helpful review, subscribed.
Great review thanks. I have the P7 wireless and just seen a good deal on the PX7 - lock-down impulse purchase ahead. Tried the Sony wf1000xm3's recently and whilst I couldn't fault them, they just weren't quite as engaging as I hoped (swapped for Cambridge Audio Melomania 1's btw) so looks like that lovely B&W sound is the way forward for me. Cheers.
A thorough analysis and, as always, a good video, John. Many thanks. It would be nice to see something in the “Under $200 Range,” though, understanding that there will be something lost as money is saved. 👍
Ok, I'm an audio newbie for sure, but that bit that you went into about the bluetooth codec connection varying between listening devices sounds pretty freakin critical! Since no audio stores are opened right now bc of the coronavirus I've been watching a ton of reviews on headphones I'm interested in and NO ONE has articulated this detail! Which I'm sure must be at least part of the reason why there's such variance in terms of opinion on the sound of different wireless headphones. Thank you for sharing your knowledge good sir!
Also, Bends all the way haha. Cheers
Great video. I have a B & W P7 (wired) and also the Sony WH-1000XM3. They are very different, but it depends on how and where you use to them to say one is better than the other. They are both very good. My personal opinion is that the Sony is good for the audio from video, but if you prefer pure sound quality the B&W is better.
Thanks for sharing playlists with us John. Makes at least me explore music I'm not that familiar with, and that's great fun :-)
I really like your explanation ! Thank you for your great job !
Really creative video i love it more power to you.
What about the Sennheiser Momentum? Any views how it compares to these two?
I wonder how these compare to the Bang & Olufsen H9.
Very good review, i must say.
I've just bought this cans en after some listening, i love them.
That's like pork pie or apple pie - fortunately we don't have to choose cos we can have both albums along with helpings of In Rainbows and Moon Shaped Pool! But back to headphones I have an old pair of B&W P5s that I still really enjoy and I haven't quite got used to noise cancelling ones yet - I'm kinda spooked by the background silence like standing on a cliff edge. As always a great video and carefully considered.
I have used the B&W PX for more than two years almost daily and I love their sound. I don't even use the noise cancelling most of the time, except on planes. They are far and away the best wireless headphones I have ever owned. On overseas flights, however, I have noticed the backs of my ears starting to ache after four hours or so from the pressure of the slightly too small ear cups. A version that has the amazing sound of the PX with a more comfortable design sounds like heaven. How does the sound compare between the PX and the PX7? The same or does one have an edge in one respect or another.
Anthony Flynn Hi there! You wouldn’t have happened to try the B&O H9. I’m considering that and the PX, but I can’t really try either because of lockdown. Also, do you know where the PX is made?
Wonderful!
Just ordered the px7 carbon on a sale. Should arrive here on Tuesday.
I got the Sony earbuds 1000mx3 but the Sony sound isn’t for me. It just doesn’t go where I want to be. I have the shure aion 50 as my bt headphones.. and the sound is superb.. it’s just not alive ? I am a nr 1 Focal fan. But they would be too expensive. Going to use the Px7 for running
Me too. Got it for 150euros. Very happy with it for fitness sessions or gaming on pc.
how are they im considering getting some soon
Go ooon, we love it when you go on a bit of a ramble and rant.
What a review! Love the link back to the albums. Loved it.
Your reviews are honestly stellar! Subbing...
Funny that. Was thinking of upgrading my Sony XM2's. And love my B&W speakers. Noise cancellation is a key factor for me. But so is bass, as I mostly listen to progressive house & techno.
Will definitely shortlist the px7 now.
Diana Krall's AirPods lmao. Great video John
Great review, especially the discussion about codecs, and the Sony comparison - turns out my phone wouldn't get the best out of the PX7's
My biggest takeaway from this video, is how amusing the videographer must've looked... taking close up video of someone's ears on a tube train :D Any chance of the Sennheiser Momentum 3 next - they're the others on my list!
I don't like over ear phones. Nor do I ever intend to buy any. But I will click on J.D's video every time to see what he has to say about the product he reviews. He is THAT GOOD. Thank you John! Excellent, as always. One question...what are you doing with Diana's Airpods? Are you secretly dating her? LOL!
OK computer is a masterpiece, definitely my favourite work from Radiohead.
Bowers and Wilkins PX7 volume control will only work with compatible devices, what are compatible devices? I don't understand these things.
Hi There, just wondering what these sound like with the cable? ie you use the wireless when your out and about, but the cable when at home. Is there a noticeable sonic difference? Does the PX7 become a lossless or HiRes headphone or does the processing dumb it down?
I’m wondering too as i want to use it wired at home for gaming and music
@@Alyzee57 Same, do any of you have the answer to that yet?
@@DJSPYROOF I'm using the PX7 myself and I haven't noticed a big difference when using them wired/wireless. When using them via cable however, they need to be powered on so that's something to keep in mind. They support up to 96khz/24-bit high resolution playback.
YES, it makes a difference! Wire them in with the highest quality USB-C to USB-C cable you can buy. I bought a Baseus 100W USB Type-C 1.5m Elbow Design Power Delivery Hammer Cable, which has a "Coaxial Cable Core" and MY WORD the PX7s come alive!
I have no idea what DAC B&W built into these, but it needs the power output from a laptop to power it. I am using a basic MacBook air, an old slow one, but the sound quality from Apple Music 16 bit 44 Khz and up is jaw-dropping!
Bluetooth is 16bit 48khz. Cable is 24bit 96khz.
Bought the PC (old version) about a year ago, and I got a hardcase with it as well in a black finish.
A agree about the firm fit of the PX which is not perfect for someone who wear glasses.
Besides Bluetooth, you can use them wired as welll
You should check out Beyer's Amiron Wireless as well. Quite a leap in sound quality, albeit at a loss of portability, no NC and not the best looking headphones. They sound very good with a wire, so mostly use them with wire at home, and BT when I'm out of the house.
Hi John, you actually can use the PX7 wired. So how do they perform against 'wired only' headphone models?
Using UAPP or foobar you could EQ compensate for the PX7's emphasized bass. They'd be my choice because I think the Sony sounds way too forgiving, like it wants to please you too much and it makes everything sound warm and dull. The lack of detail this causes and the narrow soundstage made me feel almost claustrophobic. I like the B&W sound but curious about the Drop/THX Panda too. Any idea if you'll be reviewing those?
Like you've said, John, both records are excelent in their particular ways. "OK Computer" was the first Radiohead CD that I've bought (on the released day) and I really dived deep into it. It's really more straightforward, not only because is more organic sounding but also because has got an airy feeling. On the other hand, "Kid A" is almost like a comet from outer space, more dense, more mechanical/claustrophobic but with warmer lagoons on the way. I love both. It's like picking up an album from my most beloved artists/bands like Bowie, XTC, The Cure, Brian Eno...
I made my time for watchng these and Im glad I did.
KID A!!, listened to that album every day for almost 3 months when it came out. It still is my favourite Radiohead album.
Just remember that most households have more than just one good headphones. I have and love the Sony XM3, my wife have the Bose QC35 and can't go without it. A few months later she saw the Bose 700 White and Gold edition and wants that one now, so guess what headphone is coming to me now 😘😄😔.
Haha that's a great way to kick of the review! Ok Computer or Kid A? Thom is still writing some amazing music. Great review John.
Interesting review. After 3 years I wonder which of the B&W and Sony has proved the most reliable? My 3 year old B&W PX7 s have stopped working after only 25-30 hours and I’m attempting a firmware update via the app and it’s so far unsuccessful as the phones are either not recognised or the app tells me the phones aren’t charged enough for the update even though they’ve been on charge for hours and the app shows 100% charge level!
The left cup failed on lots of PX7s, build quality isn't great, unfortunately.
I really like this review...lucky i did find your channel...thanks corona
Thanks for the video :D, I love my Sony xm3 with L dac ;) for flac songs, its great.
Have you tried Dali IO-6? Best sounding wireless ANC headphone I've ever come across.
I have them hows your opinion on them, I never tried other headphones and i had cheap Sony and Skullcandy but long time ago.
I've also got an LG V40 after watching your videos. It's quite a great phone, though I wish the volume on it pushed a bit more. Paired with a 500GB SD, can't do wrong with it! Though, I do only use it for music, as I would never let go of my Huawei P30 Pro!
Huawei P30 has the best audio after LG actually how does the sound compare? Im buy LG too in 2021.
Love your videos, keep it up!
You can use AptX HD on an iOS device. Buy the Reiyin Bluetooth 5.0 ($ 19.50) from Aliexpress and plug it into the USB port or use it with an Apple Camera Kit on an iPod or iPad. I could hardly believe it, but it works. The sound quality with Aptx HD headphones is very good. The connection quality is fine.
I listened to the B&W P7 bluetooth. Like the Sony WH-1000XM3 too much low for my taste. John Danko says it, but is not bothered. I am.
The Bose QC35 and the new 700 are much more neutral.
P7 or PX7? They are two totally different pair of headphones.
Hi John ...can you have a look at the new Jays headset and the new ones that are coming out with noise cancelling
Diana Krall's Airpods!
I got a pair of akg 52's. Really cheap but man are they good Brilliant plugged into my cd 6006uk.
I really enjoy the freedom of wireless bluetooth headphones and I find myself wearing them around the house while I'm doing chores. My one quibble with them is long-term comfort. They tend to feel much heavier than my corded passive headphones. My WH-1000XM2 headphones are only 50g heavier than my Sennheiser HD598 headphones (275g vs. 225g) but that seems to make all the difference for me. I couldn't even begin to imagine how a 310g headphone would feel after several hours of use. I was considering upgrading to the WH-1000XM3 just for the 22g weight savings.
P.S. using LDAC with FLAC files might not be truly lossless, but it's pretty close and a lot better than aptX HD.
P.S.S. Shocked that having any more bass than what the Sony offers could be considered a good thing. The bass on my WH-1000XM2 is the most bass heavy headphone out of any I own... it's bombastic.
Worth noting that some of the later PX's came with a hard carry case like the PX7
A great video and top playlist
love your videos. can you review the sennheiser momentum 3? i like to see a review from your point of experienced
I have tried the Sennheiser Momentum 3 and loved the punchy and rumbly bass on them. I'd love to know if the PX7 have a similar or different kind of bass than the Momentums?
Do these Bluetooth headphones come close to a nice pair of wired headphone like sennheiser hd650 in terms of sound quality?
I understand they are designed to do slightly different jobs... wouldn’t really wear the sennheiser out and about
Edit he kind of answered it at the end
The bowers are somewhat close. But neither, are nowhere near the passive Sennheiser headphones.
I do believe the blue microphone head phones have a built in dac and amplifier they are called satilite
i had a pair. The driver started crackling extremely loudly after a few days and i had to take them back. On exchange, the store only had Momentum 3 in stock, so i got those. I'll say that I thought the B&W sounded better in some ways. Momentums have a bit more layering or soundstage, but the vocals on the BW's were just fabulous. Also the bass on BW is tighter and more detailed. I would have preferred the BW if they had worked.
There is a Auto stop start function on the px7. When you pull away from your skull
Looking to get a wireless alternative to my Meze 99 Classic. Hearing John say «every time for more acoustic music», the Sony would seem to be the obvious choice here (listening mostly to old-instruments classical music and occasional folk), but somehow I'm still intrigued about what other people think. (Also, I'd quite like John to talk more about the Momentum 3 and especially one or some of the Beyerdynamic wireless earphones).
didnt you experience the soundquality to drop massively with ANC on? I read this many times. that sound quality suffers more from anc on these than on other anc headphones
I found that with Bose QC35s and the Sonys too, wondering whether there are any headphones out there that aren't compromised with ANC turned on
Since the Sony has EQ, is it not difficult to compare the sound? What happens if one tailors the Sony more towards the B&W sound signature? Can you get some or all of its forwardness (is that a word?) and excitement?
Mr John Darko,, I am a BIG fan of your work. I really admire the balance between true heavy audiophiles and average music enthusiast. Will you planing to do a material/comparaison to new bluetooth headphone market killer Philips Performance TAPH805BK? Price for this parameters is amazing. Really wish to know what you think about these with this and how it compares with Sony WH1000xm3. Thanks and all the best!
great video ! how do the headphones perform when with a wire? i’ve heared they loose their sound quality. want to get these, but need the ones with the wire too. do you suggest to get 2 different pairs? thank you :)
I don't quite understand your description of the sound. Any chance you have a "wiki" for the terms you used.
I'm more familiar with low end, mid and high. And for me the sonys are a bit bass heavy, so I went with their cheaper hearon.2 model
I would NOT have touched that rail on the subway, my dude!
You danced around the fact that the Sony headphones really cannot handle mid-bass across the board. In fact, the muddy bass signature is the big reason why many people are returning the Sony cans in favor of other wireless sets. I just traded my Xm3s for the PX7s. The Bowers are much much better to my ears.
Agree. I didn't like the XM3 sound
I have the PX and this video is tempting me to sell it and go for PX7
Ok Computer wins for me but I love Kid A almost as much, the guitar work on OK is what wins it for me.
What about their abilities in movie/television watching and call quality?
Great review John, and i agree with almost everything. I have three pairs of PX and one PX7, they do sound different. The PX7 has more bass - but - does not tell you anything more about the bass than the PX. The PX is just more exciting to listen too - explosive with fantastic grip. Yes the PX7 is more comfortable but not so nicely made and has better noise cancelling for sure but for me nothing beats the PX for sound.
Agreed. Had the PX and currently own the PX7 and the sound signature on the PX7 is most definitely darker and bassier than the PX. I've got about 50 hours of break in on them so I'm curious as to how they'll shape out when they hit 100+.
Yeah I just had to return my Bluetooth DAC as it didn’t support higher quality codec with iPhone
Hi John you may answer this before but I don't know how to get high quality audio files, I only have some FLACs and y would like to get wav files, do you know a webpage to download discographies in wav or similar?
Would be interesting to see/hear your thoughts on Bluetooth headphones being wired up. I tried my old Senheiser HD4.50BTNC wired and they sound completely different to when running Bluetooth aptX. I know it defeats the purpose of Bluetooth headphones but it would be good to see if there are good headphones that could also act as quality wired home use headphones too for those on a budget.
Was just wondering that myself as well. I'm relatively new to the quality headphone game (have been using in-ear Bose's (Bluetooth and wired) and want to go the over-ear route, but can't bring myself to buy a Bluetooth version as well as a wired version. Trying to find the best of both worlds, if such a thing exists.
My Sony WH1000XM2s sound very thick, warm and less resolving if I use them wired and turned off. If I turn them on, the wired sound is quite similar to them running aptx or LDAC.
OK Computer is an epic, defining masterpiece, and I can't overstate it's importance to me. But...I prefer KID A as my favorite of their albums. It is beautiful in it's own right, but the fact that it had to follow-up what is known as one of the greatest albums of all time is an incredible feat.