Most of that speech is lifted from Tolkien's description of what Frodo experiences at the very end when he sails off to Valinor. It's a beautiful piece of the book and it makes me so happy to have the description actually spoken as dialogue in the film.
I love that line. "There never was much hope. Only a fool's hope" I feel that line holds so much depth beneath it's calm surface. After all its said to Pippin who Gandalf openly calls a fool and said with a smile
I can't shake the image of Sam, Merry and Pippin at the pub years later and telling everybody how the King of Gondor, the Prince of Mirkwood, the Steward of Gondor and his wife as well as her brother the King of Rohan, and a very important Dwarf Lord are all their personal friends, and how Frodo Baggins saved the world with their help, and everybody in Hobbiton just rolling their eyes and telling them to go home because they're drunk and telling the same BS stories again. Having said that, I'm a 42 year old dude and I've seen these movies a dozen times at least, and every time I see the scene where Aragorn has been newly crowned King of Gondor and reunited with Arwen and he tells the hobbits in front of the whole world, "My friends, you bow to no one," and proceeds to bow to them along with Arwen and then everybody follows suit still makes me tear up. Even when it comes up in TH-cam reactions like yours. Every. Single. Time.
@@PhilBagels I understand the choice to leave all of the stuff in the Shire with the hobbits at the end of the book out of the movie for time constraints but I am still disappointed everytime I watch the movies and remember that that whole section of the book was left out of the movie.
@@Zenshu1 I'm sure it's too late now, but what they should have done is make a fourth movie: The Scouring of the Shire". I know this doesn't fit with the Hollywood way of doing things. They prefer gigantic, cosmic battles over personal, down-to-earth stories. But it seems to me that if they can stretch The Hobbit into three movies, they could certainly make LotR into four. In fact, they probably should have made LotR into six movies to fit better with the books. And they made Harry Potter's seven books into eight movies, so what's the problem? There's nothing sacred about the number 3. Given the way Hollywood remakes every movie, eventually, they'll make another LotR series of movies, and maybe they'll do it even better.
@@PhilBagels I don't have high hopes of a good remake if they ever do, hollywood usually ruins a good thing when they remake anything but IF they ever did it I would definitely have my fingers crossed for them to change how it ends back to how the books end because it was a much more powerful ending than the way they did it in the movies.
technically Rohan will have Eowyn as Queen, since Theoden told the people to follow HER in his stead and then died on the battle field(I have told them to follow YOU in my stead, take up my seat in the golden hall.) atleast in the movie I don´t remember the book.
Winner of 11 Oscars including Best Picture. The first and only Fantasy Adventure film to win and quite possibly the last Epic movie to win Best Picture.
Lol, his reaction to the first black screen! When I saw this at the midnight release, one dude literally stood up after the 3rd fade to black, said “FUCK this, man” and walked out 😂
Sam is an obvious hero, for obvious reasons. But so is Frodo, but it's less explicit, I think. I believe Frodo's heroism came from the fact that he spared Gollums life, when others, including Sam, would have killed him long before they reached Mordor. That allowed the ring to be destroyed. Because it could not have been destroyed by anyone willingly. As Tolkien writes about mount doom, it was " the heart of the realm of Sauron [_] all other powers were here subdued". No one could have willingly destroyed the ring, not even Sam. Therefore it was Frodo's pity and mercy that saved Middle-earth.
Tolkien the author of the story wrote a bit in a letter about Frodo and his mission: "246 From a letter to Mrs Eileen Elgar (drafts) September 1963 [A reply to a reader's comments on Frodo's failure to surrender the Ring in the Cracks of Doom.] Very few (indeed so far as letters go only you and one other) have observed or commented on Frodo's 'failure'. It is a very important point. From the point of view of the storyteller the events on Mt Doom proceed simply from the logic of the tale up to that time. They were not deliberately worked up to nor foreseen until they occurred.1 But, for one thing, it became at last quite clear that Frodo after all that had happened would be incapable of voluntarily destroying the Ring. Reflecting on the solution after it was arrived at (as a mere event) I feel that it is central to the whole 'theory' of true nobility and heroism that is presented. Frodo indeed 'failed' as a hero, as conceived by simple minds: he did not endure to the end; he gave in, ratted. I do not say 'simple minds' with contempt: they often see with clarity the simple truth and the absolute ideal to which effort must be directed, even if it is unattainable. Their weakness, however, is twofold. They do not perceive the complexity of any given situation in Time, in which an absolute ideal is enmeshed. They tend to forget that strange element in the World that we call Pity or Mercy, which is also an absolute requirement in moral judgement (since it is present in the Divine nature). In its highest exercise it belongs to God. For finite judges of imperfect knowledge it must lead to the use of two different scales of 'morality'. To ourselves we must present the absolute ideal without compromise, for we do not know our own limits of natural strength (+grace), and if we do not aim at the highest we shall certainly fall short of the utmost that we could achieve. To others, in any case of which we know enough to make a judgement, we must apply a scale tempered by 'mercy': that is, since we can with good will do this without the bias inevitable in judgements of ourselves, we must estimate the limits of another's strength and weigh this against the force of particular circumstances.2 I do not think that Frodo's was a moral failure. At the last moment the pressure of the Ring would reach its maximum - impossible, I should have said, for any one to resist, certainly after long possession, months of increasing torment, and when starved and exhausted. Frodo had done what he could and spent himself completely (as an instrument of Providence) and had produced a situation in which the object of his quest could be achieved. His humility (with which he began) and his sufferings were justly rewarded by the highest honour; and his exercise of patience and mercy towards Gollum gained him Mercy: his failure was redressed. We are finite creatures with absolute limitations upon the powers of our soul-body structure in either action or endurance. Moral failure can only be asserted, I think, when a man's effort or endurance falls short of his limits, and the blame decreases as that limit is closer approached.3 Nonetheless, I think it can be observed in history and experience that some individuals seem to be placed in 'sacrificial' positions: situations or tasks that for perfection of solution demand powers beyond their utmost limits, even beyond all possible limits for an incarnate creature in a physical world - in which a body may be destroyed, or so maimed that it affects the mind and will. Judgement upon any such case should then depend on the motives and disposition with which he started out, and should weigh his actions against the utmost possibility of his powers, all along the road to whatever proved the breaking-point. Frodo undertook his quest out of love - to save the world he knew from disaster at his own expense, if he could; and also in complete humility, acknowledging that he was wholly inadequate to the task. His real contract was only to do what he could, to try to find a way, and to go as far on the road as his strength of mind and body allowed. He did that. I do not myself see that the breaking of his mind and will under demonic pressure after torment was any more a moral failure than the breaking of his body would have been - say, by being strangled by Gollum, or crushed by a falling rock. That appears to have been the judgement of Gandalf and Aragorn and of all who learned the full story of his journey. Certainly nothing would be concealed by Frodo! But what Frodo himself felt about the events is quite another matter He appears at first to have had no sense of guilt (III 224-5); he was restored to sanity and peace. But then he thought that he had given his life in sacrifice: he expected to die very soon. But he did not, and one can observe the disquiet growing in him. Arwen was the first to observe the signs, and gave him her jewel for comfort, and thought of a way of healing him.4 Slowly he fades 'out of the picture', saying and doing less and less. I think it is clear on reflection to an attentive reader that when his dark times came upon him and he was conscious of being 'wounded by knife sting and tooth and a long burden' (III 268) it was not only nightmare memories of past horrors that afflicted him, but also unreasoning self-reproach: he saw himself and all that he done as a broken failure. 'Though I may come to the Shire, it will not seem the same, for I shall not be the same.' That was actually a temptation out of the Dark, a last flicker of pride: desire to have returned as a 'hero', not content with being a mere instrument of good. And it was mixed with another temptation, blacker and yet (in a sense) more merited, for however that may be explained, he had not in fact cast away the Ring by a voluntary act: he was tempted to regret its destruction, and still to desire it. 'It is gone for ever, and now all is dark and empty', he said as he wakened from his sickness in 1420. 'Alas! there are some wounds that cannot be wholly cured', said Gandalf (III 268) - not in Middle-earth. Frodo was sent or allowed to pass over Sea to heal him - if that could be done, before he died. He would have eventually to 'pass away': no mortal could, or can, abide for ever on earth, or within Time. So he went both to a purgatory and to a reward, for a while: a period of reflection and peace and a gaining of a truer understanding of his position in littleness and in greatness, spent still in Time amid the natural beauty of 'Arda Unmarred', the Earth unspoiled by evil. Bilbo went too. No doubt as a completion of the plan due to Gandalf himself. Gandalf had a very great affection for Bilbo, from the hobbit's childhood onwards. His companionship was really necessary for Frodo's sake - it is difficult to imagine a hobbit, even one who had been through Frodo's experiences, being really happy even in an earthly paradise without a companion of his own kind, and Bilbo was the person that Frodo most loved."
Part of the reason Denethor is the way he is, apart from just being a rubbish father, is that he has a Palantir through which Sauron has been driving him mad with visions of despair and defeat. 25:45 Genuine medieval battle tactic to demoralise your opponent. Return dismembered bodies, can also have the advantage of promoting disease in a besieged city. Never believe they are dead unless you see a body! 32:40 That is 'Grond' fiery battering ram.
The Elves on LOTRs mythos are leaving for Valinor into the west (A sort of Paradise). Frodo also goes because of the wounds and emotional weight of carrying the ring could only be healed in the undying lands of Valinor, where the "gods" of Middle earth live. So basically by the end of LOTRs, they simply were in decay, as the elves slowly move to the est to the point where, when Arwen dies, Galadriel, Elrond and most of the elves in Rivendel and Lothlorien have left already. You should read the Silmarillion. It answers most of your questions.
Can't get enough of LOTR's reactions, loved it guys. I am 100% bias for the extended editions, but yea someone that wasn't much into epic fantasy before this, the theatricals are still good movies and best choice. best of luck in life guys.
YES. YES A THOUSAND TIMES. Genuinely, Aaron, if you see this, there is a book called Beren And Luthien by the same author (it's part of The Silmarillion but it recently got released on it's own) and it is the most beautiful love story I have ever heard or read. Aragorn was singing part of it in the first movie in the marshy area. Honestly, it is so good. May be a little confusing without context from the rest of The Silmarillion but that's fine.
'Poor old Merry! How glad I am to see you again! But you are worn out, and I won’t bother you with any talk. But tell me, are you hurt, or wounded?’ ‘No,’ said Merry. ‘Well, no, I don’t think so. But I can’t use my right arm, Pippin, not since I stabbed him. And my sword burned away like a piece of wood.’ Pippin’s face was anxious. ‘Well, you had better come with me as quick as you can,’ he said. ‘I wish I could carry you. You aren’t fit to walk any further. They shouldn’t have let you walk at all; but you must forgive them. So many dreadful things have happened in the City, Merry, that one poor hobbit coming in from battle is easily overlooked.’ ‘It’s not always a misfortune being overlooked,’ said Merry. ‘I was overlooked just now by-no, no, I can’t speak of it. Help me, Pippin! It’s all going dark again, and my arm is so cold.’ ‘Lean on me, Merry lad!” said Pippin. ‘Come now. Foot by foot. It’s not far.’ ‘Are you going to bury me?’ said Merry. ‘No, indeed!’ said Pippin, trying to sound cheerful, though his heart was wrung with fear and pity. ‘No, we are going to the Houses of Healing.' Tolkien experienced the Great War (World War 1) first hand. I cannot help thinking that he saw something like this scene, perhaps more than once.
Unfortunately neither Frodo not Sam would have willingly destroyed the ring. That was the whole purpose of Smeagol's roll. In fact, it's simply impossible to willingly destroy the ring by anyone.
Yoooo Aaron, Fellowship all the way!! By far my favourite too. Glad you liked them overall dude. Don’t jump in too quick and burn out, but I’m excited for you to see the extended editions
Here some Details what happends to the Rest of the Fellowship later on. First off, Aragorn, who married Arwin, lived for 210 Years, and he had a Son who was named Eldarion, and several Daughters. When in the year 120 of the Fourth Age, King ARagorn Elessar realised his days were at an end, he went to the House of the Kings in the Silent Street. He said farewell to his son Eldarion and his daughters and gave Eldarion his crown and sceptre. Arwen remained at Aragorn's side until he died. A year after Aragorn's death, Arwen died of a broken heart. Eldarion began his reign as the Second King of the Reunited Kingdom after his father's death. Arwen died in the year 121 of the Fourth Age, after Aragorn's death, she died of a broken heart at Cerin Amroth in Lórien, and was buried there one year after the death of Aragorn, to whom she had been wedded for 122 years. She was 2901 years old. Meriadoc Brandybuck Later Life: Upon their return he and Pippin both married beautiful hobbit women. They were also the tallest of hobbits - Meriadoc being the slightly taller of the two - taller even than the legendary Bandobras "Bullroarer" Took, due to their having drunk large amounts of Entwater. Merry married Estella Bolger some time after the end of the Third Age. He became the Master of Buckland in SR 1432 (FA 11 *). He wrote Old Words and Names in the Shire. Although he was not recorded as having any children within the family trees, he clearly had at least one son. At the age of 102, Merry returned to Rohan and Gondor with Pippin, dying there some time after the year FA 63. He was laid to rest in Gondor, and when Aragorn died in FA 120, he and Pippin were entombed beside the great king Peregrin Took Later Life: In the year FA 6 of the Fourth Age Pippin married Diamond of Long Cleeve, when she was 32 and he himself was 37. They had one son, Faramir Took I, who later married Samwise Gamgee's daughter Goldilocks Gardner. In the year FA 13, Pippin became the 32nd Thain of the Shire, a position he held for 50 years before retiring in FA 63, when he revisited Rohan and Gondor with Merry. He remained in Gondor for the rest of his life. Pippin died some time after the year FA 63 and was laid to rest with Merry in Gondor. After the great King Elessar (Aragorn) died in FA 120, Merry and Pippin were entombed next to the great king. Samwise Gamgee: After the War of the Ring Following the Scouring of the Shire, Sam married Rose (Rosie) Cotton. They had thirteen children: Elanor the Fair, Frodo, Rose, Merry, Pippin, Goldilocks, Hamfast, Daisy, Primrose, Bilbo, Ruby, Robin, and Tolman. When Frodo Baggins announced that he was leaving to the Undying Lands, west of Middle-earth, he gave Sam the Red Book of Westmarch and the household of Bag End where he and his large personal family later called the Gardners would live for many years. After Will Whitfoot resigned his post as Mayor of Michel Delving, in SR 1427 (FA6), Sam was elected Mayor of the Shire for seven consecutive seven-year terms. Later years In their later years, Sam and Rosie went to Gondor and lived there for over one year in the house of King Aragorn II Elessar. When they returned, they lived out their lives seeing Sam's mayoral duties passed to Tolman Cotton Jr.. Rosie died in the year 61 in Mid-year's Day at the age of ninety-eight. After his wife died in the year FA61 of the Fourth Age (SR 1482), Sam entrusted the Red Book to his daughter, Elanor, and left the Shire. It was a tradition handed down from Elanor that he went to the Grey Havens, and because he was also a Ring-bearer (albeit for a short time), he was allowed to pass over the Sea to be reunited with Frodo in the Undying Lands Legolas Later Life: After the destruction of the One Ring and of Sauron, Legolas stayed for the coronation of Aragorn II Elessar and his marriage to Arwen. Later, he and Gimli travelled together to Helm's Deep, visiting the Glittering Caves, and then later traveled through Fangorn Forest. Eventually, Legolas came to Ithilien with some of his people, with his father's leave, to live out his remaining time in Middle-earth helping to restore the woodlands that had been war-torn. After Aragorn's death, Legolas made a ship in Ithilien and left Middle-earth to go over the sea. His strong friendship with Gimli prompted Legolas to invite him to go to the Undying Lands; making him the first and only Dwarf to do so. He was never seen again in Middle-earth. Gimlis Later Life: After the War, Gimli led a large number of Durin's Folk south to establish a new Dwarf kingdom in the Glittering Caves, which were located behind Helm's Deep where Gimli was trapped during the battle, and he became the first Lord of the Glittering Caves. The Dwarves of the Glittering Caves, led by their Lord Gimli, would repair much of the physical damage that was incurred during the War of the Ring. Most notably, they rebuilt the Great Gate of Minas Tirith with a new one made of Mithril and steel, as well as improving upon the existing layout of the entire city. Gimli was 139 years old (born in 2879 of the Third Age) when the Fellowship of the Ring set out from Rivendell, making him 52 years older than Aragorn. His date of death is not known, and according to the Red Book of Westmarch, he is said to have traveled with Legolas into the West, thus becoming the first dwarf to visit the Undying Lands. Of this possibility, Tolkien wrote that it would be strange indeed, that any Dwarf should be willing to leave Middle-earth for any love, or that the Eldar should receive him, or that the Lords of the West should permit it, but that it is said that Gimli went not only because of his great friendship with Legolas but also out of desire to see again the beauty of Galadriel; and that she, being mighty among the Eldar, may have obtained this grace for him. He was never seen again in Middle-earth. *Fourth Age
2 Interesting Facts about the Battering Ram, Grond, that Mordor used. First off, the Name Grond comes from the great Warhammer of Morgoth, the first Dark Lord, which he wielded in the First Age. It was also referred to as the Hammer of the Underworld, and was extremely powerful. / wiki / Grond _ (Warhammer) The Wielder of Grond was Melkor, or later known as Morgoth. He was the First Dark Lord and also Saurons Master. / wiki / Melkor Secondly, the Ram itself, especially the Head, was designed after the Great Wolf of Angband, Carcharoth. Carcharoth, also known as the Red Maw, lived in the First Age of the Sun, and was the greatest werewolf that ever lived. He was of the line of Draugluin. / wiki / Carcharoth (Copy the Links without the Spaces and put lotr dot fandom before the links with a c o m ) The Strenght of the Men of Middle Earth and the Strength of Mordor´s Troops was mentioned in those Numbers for the Movie ( while in the Books it was slightly different, with more Commanders mentioned on the Side of Men, less Orcs and some more Gondorian Soldiers, who even got Reinforcment from other Gondorian Districts who arent suffered from the War so far):
Strength of the Men: 4,000 Gondorian soldiers 6,000 Rohirrim riders 50,000 Undead soldiers Mordors Side: 200,000 orcs 2,000 Corsairs 20 Mûmakil 2,000 Haradrim All 9 Ringwraiths (for the first Initial Attack especially to destroy the Trebuchets at the Walls of Minas Tirith) 1 Warg 20 Trolls for direct Attacks, who were heavily armored and armed ( Many more for loading Stones on Catapults, moving the Siege Towers and using the Battering Ram Grond) Varius Siege weapons, such as catapults, siege towers, a hand-used Battering ram and a giant Battering ram (Grond) Heavy Casualties on the Side of Men: 2,500 Gondorian soldiers killed 2,000 Rohirrim riders killed + the lose of King Theoden Catastrophic Casualties on the Side of Mordor: 198,000 orcs killed 2,000 Corsairs killed 20 Mûmakil killed 2,000 Haradrim killed 1 Ringwraith killed 1 Warg killed 20 Trolls killed + all Supporting Trolls All Siege Weapons lost + the Death of there Commander Gothmog , The Haradrim King and the Corsair Commander, while Saurons heaviest Lose was the Death of the Witch King of Angmar as his Highest Ranking Commander.
Ha ha, I like Aaron’s comment at the start ‘I’m more like you normal people out there’ Dude, none of are normal here. We are all magnificent nerds! Thank you for uploading this - I’ve been impatiently waiting to see Aaron’s reaction to this freakin’ amazing movie. You guys are awesome!
It was a real pleasure watching you two smile over these movies. What really made this special to me was experiencing how genuine and real you both were, which is something so hard to convey on camera. You're both sensitive and beautiful. We can see how much you adore each other, and frankly I think we all fell a little in love with you both here. Thanks so much for making this, and I hope you had us much fun as I did!
nobody can destroy the ring voluntarily in mount doom, the ring's power is to strong there. not even the purest person can do it. a lot of information you guys wanted to see in future movies you can find in the books "the silmarillion". Aragorn dies first at age 210 i think and Arwen dies a couple of years later i think.
Fun fact: Oliphant is a real word for elephant. Its Anglo-Norman. Olifaunt for Middle English. It means both "ivory" and "elephant". Also, olifant is horn made of ivory
45:15 well, technically, Frodo was the Ring bearer. He was the one carrying the ring the whole time, slowly corrupting him from inside. If Sam had been the Ring Bearer, he would have also get corrupted. Slowly, but effectively. So, in my opinion, giving all the credit just to Sam is ridicolous
Entirely possible but also possible he wouldn't have been since j.r.r. Tolkien said that Sam was the only one in middle earth to have held the ring and been able to give it up with no hesitation at all, he may have been able to carry the ring the whole way and still toss it had fate made him the ring bearer instead of frodo.
@@Zenshu1 Completely false, both in the book and in the movies, Sam is reluctant to return the ring to Frodo, and it is Frodo who rips it from his hands. Read again Book 6. Chapter 1: The tower of Cirith Ungol
I love the books (I was older when these movies came out and already a huge nerd and had read the books dozens of times). This is one of my favorite movies and overall they did a great job with getting the general theme/feel (I really enjoyed Fellowship, although not Two Towers) although I have a few quibbles. Denethor gets a little bit of a raw deal - he's still more or less a jerk in the books, but he has a little more subtlety/nuance, and his death isn't quite so ridiculous. Eowyn and Faramir get more development in the book (they fall in love and she comes to terms with her own journey and depression) and I actually think her scene with the Witch King is much more dramatic in the book, especially as they keep her presence at the battle a secret in the book, so it's a true reveal when this mysterious soldier (going by Dernhelm) pulls their helmet off. The dialogue is a little better than 'I am no man!' which to me is a bit more modern sounding (although it's a similar sentiment, just more elegantly worded). Tolkien has written a ton in his own letters and private writings about the meaning of the story, which is basically a meditation on grace/mercy. He got a bit of hate mail when Frodo 'succumbed' and thought Frodo should have been punished, but his reasoning was that Frodo was at his limits of what he could do morally/physically - nobody would have been able to resist the Ring in the heart of Sauron's power - and grace/mercy did the rest. That said, the whole experience still touched him, which is why in the end he can never fully heal on earth and needs to sail in to the West. There are also a lot of appendices where Tolkien writes about what happens to all the characters afterwards, and Sam eventually also goes after his wife dies, and Legolas also takes Gimli with him and Galadriel lets him in. Regarding Saruman, the book is actually more depressing (but also in the theme of how awful war is) - he escapes, goes back to the Shire and devastates it to get revenge on the hobbits, so when the hobbits get back, they find everything ruined and under the control of his thugs, and have to fight yet another battle to liberate it. It's funny how you guys mentioned how everything is still the same and they have no idea what went on, because in the books, the point is that you can never really go home again. Tolkien also agrees Sam is the true hero of the series :) As an aside, because somebody mentioned it, Tolkien was on record that Gandalf isn't intended to be a Jesus figure as that wasn't something he was comfortable with portraying, nor is he intended to be an incarnation of god. In the cosmology he crafted, he's more of an angel with a specific purpose. He did put his faith into his story a lot, but he tried not to make it that specific.
Faramir and Eowyn bits in the book are great, my favorite scene of them together standing on the walls: "And so they stood on the walls of the City of Gondor, and a great wind rose and blew, and their hair, raven and golden, streamed out mingling in the air. And the Shadow departed, and the Sun was unveiled, and light leaped forth; and the waters of Anduin shone like silver, and in all the houses of the City men sang for the joy that welled up in their hearts from what source they could not tell. And before the Sun had fallen far from the noon out of the East there came a great Eagle flying, and he bore tidings beyond hope from the Lords of the West, crying: Sing now, ye people of the Tower of Anor, for the Realm of Sauron is ended for ever, and the Dark Tower is thrown down. Sing and rejoice, ye people of the Tower of Guard, for your watch hath not been in vain, and the Black Gate is broken, and your King hath passed through, and he is victorious. Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West, for your King shall come again, and he shall dwell among you all the days of your life. And the Tree that was withered shall be renewed, and he shall plant it in the high places, and the City shall be blessed. Sing all ye people!" And later: "Then Faramir laughed merrily. ‘That is well,’ he said; ‘for I am not a king. Yet I will wed with the White Lady of Rohan, if it be her will. And if she will, then let us cross the River and in happier days let us dwell in fair Ithilien and there make a garden. All things will grow with joy there, if the White Lady comes.’ ‘Then must I leave my own people, man of Gondor?’ she said. ‘And would you have your proud folk say of you: “There goes a lord who tamed a wild shieldmaiden of the North! Was there no woman of the race of Númenor to choose?”’ ‘I would,’ said Faramir. And he took her in his arms and kissed her under the sunlit sky, and he cared not that they stood high upon the walls in the sight of many. And many indeed saw them and the light that shone about them as they came down from the walls and went hand in hand to the Houses of Healing."
@@fantasywind3923 Mine too! That along with Eowyn unmasking herself at the battle, as well as the arrival of the Rohirrium at the end of the Dawnless Day (the concept of which didn't make it into the movie). Rohan had come at last! This is actually a brilliant essay on a site I follow about Faramir which, among other things, talks about how he is apparently such a good kisser that he drives the pall of gloom away from Minas Tirith :) www.tor.com/2020/05/18/where-the-steward-is-king-faramir-is-never-second-best/
Aaron’s reaction is always the BEST! -Frodo had to go with the elves because he still needs their medicine and he wasn’t completely healed and also the first stab is making him dying slowly. - they had to cut so much because if they will make everything extended only the NERDS will he interested to watch it, you guys need to understand if you want to reach a vast audience you need to keep their attention span, so they can’t include every detail cause LESS people will be interested.
Okay, so I burst out laughing at the cutout because when I was in college (back in the early 2000s) one of my friends in our friend group had a cutout like this and we had all sorts of dumb shenanigans with it lmao. I also had a ridiculous crush on Elijah Wood, hahaha.
Interesting Fact: Although it isnt really said in the movies the weapons that are carried by the hobbits given to them by Aragorn on Weathertop (in books they got them from a barrow) were forged in the middle of the third age by during the wars with Angmar and the Witchking; and are bound with spells. When Merry stabs the Witchking the spells on the blade cut through the enchantments wove around the Witchking (Thats why he screams and goes to his knees) thus allowing Eowyn's plain sword to pierce the witchking. It was a group Effort LOL
One last comment, because of all the interest in the 'what happens afterwards' - in addition to the Appendices that were published with Return of the King, Tolkien also wrote an Epilogue that for whatever reason, he did not publish, but you can read it in the History of Middle earth books. It's a very sweet moment with Sam and Elanor (his daughter) describing what happened to everybody, and setting up his eventual departure. If you want to read it, it's here: faculty.smu.edu/bwheeler/tolkien/online_reader/TolkienEpilogue.pdf Tolkien also started an actual sequel but abandoned it because it got a little too dark/depressing since it was basically about evil resurfacing as it always does. There's a few chapters in one of the HOME books though. Oh, and yeah, Bilbo, Frodo (and later Sam) go to Valinor basically to 'heal' (kind of like the idea of Purgatory) but they do eventually die, as they are mortal. It is only through special permission/grace that they are allowed there (Gimili gets to go too). I don't think they would (or even could) come back, though, and the Elves are basically leaving Middle Earth. Gandalf and the Elves, on the other hand, will continue to live there basically until the end of the world and its remaking. Nobody really knows what happens to them, or to mortal souls.
I always liked that unpublished epilogue, it shows how amazing Tolkien as writer was when even at the end he managed to make the Elanor an intriguing character. "‘Don’t write any more tonight. Talk to me, Sam-dad!’ said Elanor, and drew him to a seat by the fire. ‘Tell me,’ she said, as they sat close together with the soft golden light on their faces, ‘tell me about Lórien. Does my flower grow there still, Sam-dad?’ ‘Well dear, Celeborn still lives there among his trees and his Elves, and there I don’t doubt your flower grows still. Though now I have got you to look at, I don’t hanker after it so much.’ ‘But I don’t want to look at myself, Sam-dad. I want to look at other things. I want to see the hill of Amroth where the King met Arwen, and the silver trees, and the little white niphredil, and the golden elanor in the grass that is always green. And I want to hear Elves singing.’ ‘Then, maybe, you will one day, Elanor. I said the same thing when I was your age, and long after it, and there didn’t seem to be no hope. And yet I saw them, and I heard them.’ ‘I was afraid they were all sailing away, Sam-dad. Then soon there would be none here; and then everywhere would be just places and’ ‘And what, Elanorellë?’ ‘And the light would have faded.’ ‘I know,’ said Sam. The light is fading, Elanorellë. But it won’t go out yet. It won’t ever quite go out, I think now, since I have had you to talk to. For it seems to me now that people can remember it who have never seen it. And yet,’ he sighed, ‘even that is not the same thing as really seeing it, like I did.’ 'Like really being in a story?’ said Elanor. “A story is quite different, even when it is about what happened. I wish I could go back to old days!’ ‘Folk of our sort often wish that,’ said Sam. ‘You came at the end of a great Age, Elanorellë, but though it’s over, as we say, things don’t really end sharp like that. It’s more like a winter sunset. The High Elves have nearly all gone now with Elrond. But not quite all; and those that didn’t will wait now for a while. And the others that belong here, will last even longer. There are still things for you to see, and maybe you’ll see them sooner than you hope.’ Elanor was silent for some time before she spoke again. ‘I did not understand at first what Celeborn meant when he said goodbye to the King,’ she said. ‘But I think I do now. He knew that Lady Arwen would stay, but that Galadriel would leave him. I think it was very sad for him. And for you, dear Sam-dad.’ Her hand felt for his, and his brown hand clasped her slender fingers. ‘For your treasure went too. I am glad Frodo of the Ring saw me, but I wish I could remember seeing him.’ ‘It was sad, Elanorellë,’ said Sam, kissing her hair. ‘It was, but it isn’t now. For why? Well, for one thing, Mr. Frodo has gone where the elven-light isn’t fading; and he deserved his reward. But I have had mine, too. I have had lost of treasures. I am a very rich hobbit. And there is one other reason, which I shall whisper to you, a secret I have never told before to no one, nor put in the Book yet. Before he went Mr. Frodo said that my time maybe would come. I can wait. I think maybe we haven’t said farewell for good. But I can wait. I have learned that much from the Elves at any rate. They are not so troubled about time. And so I think Celeborn is still happy among his trees, in an Elvish way. His time hasn’t come, and he isn’t tired of his land yet. When he is tired he can go.’ ‘And when you’re tired, you will go too, Sam-dad. You will go to the Havens with the Elves. Then I shall go with you. I shall not part with you, like Arwen did with Elrond.’ ‘Maybe, maybe,’ said Sam kissing her gently. ‘And maybe not. The choice of Lúthien and Arwen comes to many, Elanorellë, or something like it; and it isn’t wise to choose before the time.’" And the actual closing lines have certain deep feeling about it: "Sam shut the door. But even as he did so, he heard suddenly, deep and unstilled, the sigh and murmer of the Sea upon the shores of Middle Earth."
Or the god awful restroscope monstrosity Lord of the Rings animation. But that is not the Return of the King, that Animation, like the 1977 Hobbit animation is forgivable for it's time and budget.
Worth pointing out for anyone who hasn't read the books, that when she said "the Sire was in disarray," she meant that it was occupied by the remnants of Mordor's army! The Scourge of the Shire is the most unfortunate loss from the books, appearing only as Galadriel's vision. Also, the BEST satire/parody of LotR is "Escape from the Bloodkeep." It's a live-play TTRPG from College Humor, and a real love letter to LotR.
Out of any movie or movie series, this one hits the most and has the best conclusion to the story. No abrupt ending or leaving it overly sappy, but giving a somewhat bittersweet one. It's also not afraid to drag out its scenes and KNOWS it's emotional, giving you time to wipe tears away than to try and rush it just cause the "plot has been resolved". Fantastic set of movies and story written by Tolkien. The movies themselves aren't perfect but a near perfect representation of what's humanly possible. As said though the ending is perfect to me and more movies should give more time to giving a final conclusion to the aftermath of the story and to not be afraid to make it just as much happy as sad.
One of my favorite aspects of Gollum's "future" part to play that Gandalf hints at in Moria is how everything was still so up in the air that Smeagol might've been saved...which is why three eagles flew to Mt Doom.
My girl with the long brown hair and dark green leggings, I think your name is Emily, I feel like you and me would have been best friends growing up! Your stories sound so much like mine! As my screen name suggests, I am a huge Lord of the Rings fan, taking my name from The Silmarillion. I had Lord of the Rings posters (still have 1, the map of middle earth), printouts covering all my binders, and even became friends with some teachers because of our mutual fandom :) I can't believe you met Dominic Monaghan!!! I would have lost my mind too
I understand that Gollum is bad but without him they wouldn't have been able to enter into Mordor. If Sam had killed him, their quest would have failed. That's the ambiguity with the character of Gollum as Gandalf said in the first movie.
Tossing skulls into a castle under siege was actually a common practice in ancient warfare. It was a demoralizing tactic and had the added benefit of spreading disease into the walls.
Trivia fact: The arm holding Sting at 34.44 isn't Sean Astin, it's Director Peter Jackson's arm in a 'filler' shot. Jackson also cameos as the bearded pirate who gets hit by Legolas' arrow. He also appears in the other five middle earth movies. And the fight scene between Frodo & Gollum in Shelobs lair had additional close ups. The scene had already been shot & Andy Serkis went to Jacksons home for dinner one night but was asked to do some close up shots for the CGI team. So Serkis ended up rolling around on the floor while being recorded by Jackson on a camcorder for motion capture reference.
19:11 Check out "Bored of the Rings", a 1969 parody short novel written by the guys who later founded National Lampoon. In 2013, an audio version was produced by Orion Audiobooks.
Frodo sees his own possible future in Gollum/Smaegol in a way that Sam cannot. That is why gradually Frodo feels closer to Smaegol than he does to Sam, finally telling Sam to go home and following Smaegol.
53:36 - "Are you crying?" "No, I don't cry. I'm a man." Me too...except during Lord of the Rings...and Band of Brothers...and Saving Private Ryan...and Shawshank Redemption...and Schindler's List...and It's a Wonderful Life...and Big Fish...and Braveheart...and The Green Mile...and Toy Story 3...and Rudy...and...
LOTR up there with bad boys 2 😂😂😂 That shows he is good husband material 😁 Seriously, I was expecting the Godfather for comparison when it comes to the best of high-quality movies.
Shire was actually touched by the events in the books, there were couple situations where Peter Jackson took creative liberties with the movies to cut down a bit of a story and that was one of them. Common man, Bad Boys II favorite movie? I feel like there are so many movies you should see, Braveheart, Gladiator, Taken, Dark Knight, Titanic, Wolf of Wallstreet, Seven, 13th Warrior, Inception, just to name a few. There were plenty of parodies, two that come to mind is Jack Black MTV awards skit and Big Bang theory episode with the one ring.
What Aaron said about the 'people in the shadow' who do things, do their job, is actually one of the themes of story as Tolkien wrote, one quote even exemplifies it: "This quest may be attempted by the weak with as much hope as the strong. Yet such is oft the course of deeds that move the wheels of the world: small hands do them because they must, while the eyes of the great are elsewhere." Book answers some of the questions in the 'where are they now' angle, we get to learn stuff about the lives of the members of fellowship after the quest, curiously enough apparently Peter Jackson team made some of the scenes that were never released regarding those, even extended editions didn't have them. Lotr book appendices contains a lot of additional information. By the way for a moment I though that you'll start a discussion about the upcoming Amazon's Lotr tv show ;) hehe. Now THAT'S something to discuss about hehe.
Though I love so many lines people mention, Frodo saying, "There is no going back," remains my favorite line of the trilogy. It really struck me personally for multiple reasons, and that is what makes a story like this so great--almost everyone connects to it in some way.
Tolkien like no other would have understood and that's why it is all the more touching, for we know that he probably felt the same after his experiences: "“There is no real going back. Though I may come to the Shire it will not seem the same; for I shall not be the same. I am wounded with knife, sting, and tooth, and a long burden."
Many years later, it was said that the Elves sent a ship back for Sam, as Sam had technically been a ringbearer for the briefest of time after the ambush in Shelob's lair, and took him to the Undying Lands to be with Bilbo and Frodo et al.
Great video guys, and i had the same thought about Saroman. As Aaron back in 2003 i was like where the heck is he, then i saw the Extended and was like oh ok gotcha. I love lord of the rings movies and the hobbit trilogy BUT i will say Rings is better. 😉
most of the questions they leave open about future of the various characters and what their destiny is are actually answered either in the books (in the appendix) or in the silmarillion and other books by Tolkien
Frodo would have never thrown the ring in the fire. In the books at the beginning Gandalf tells him to throw it in the fireplace, that way he could find out if it was the one ring, and Frodo couldn’t even do it then.
Wasnt it even said that the Ring couldnt be destroyed, like a prophecy or something? Like it wouldnt let anyone to throw it into the lava at that point? Something like Eru actually having to intervene and 'push' Gollum of the edge 🤔
Question 1. Unlikely. Even if he had decided to destroy the Ring, by the time he made the decision the Ringwraiths would have caught up to him and killed both him and Sam and brought the Ring back to Sauron. Question 2. That whole ending is applicable to the poor bastards who came home from WW1, most of whom were completely ruined. Question 3. We don't see it, but while the Fellowship is off doing their thing, attacks are made on Lothlórien as well as several other places. And if you guys wanna see more of the Elves, read the Silmarillion.
You like Aragorn's speech, check out Shakespeare's Henry V. St. Crispin's Day Speech (Act IV Scene iii). Check out Kenneth Branagh's version; you should be able to find the scene easily enough on TH-cam. Best locker-room halftime speech ever.
Want to be creeped out even more by the spider? Have your phone go off on vibrate near your hip right at the most suspenseful moment. I did that a couple years ago and legit sprained my ankle hopping up so bad I couldn't walk on it for 3 weeks!
In regards to the post movie conversation.... each of the Hobbits actually have significant roles in the shire, particularly Sam of course, but once frodo goes to the undying lands, they really take on significant roles. I won't touch in the scouring of the shire in the books with sarumon but dig deeper if you want
At the 2004 MTV Movie Awards, "Bad Boys II" was nominated for "Best Action Sequence" for the inter-coastal freeway pursuit, but lost to "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" - 'nuff said.
Found it wierd that none mentioned anything from silmarillion in the aftertalk:o would´ve been fun to deepdive into that a bit and get the soon to be husband to understand the scale of this world tolkien created:)
1:25:20 Gandalf is not " going to the land and die " . Read again the book , the appendix and perhaps the Silmarillion to really understand the nature of Gandalf
1:38:05 Frodo is not going to Valinor (the West) because he "has completed his task" but because of the Morgul's blade wound and the burden of the ring on his mind that he can't completely heal in Middle earth . So the Lord of the West ( sort of Archangel if you want) grant him to come to their Land as no mortal (apart from a few chosen) can't sail to the Undying Lands unless being invited.
LOL, I think some of you in the comments are really gettin too snippy about Aaron's favorite movie xD. So what if his favorite is Bad Boys II? Doesn't mean it's a bad movie, everyone has different interests and taste in the kind of media they like. I think what matters here is that he genuinely and greatly enjoyed it, even if it isn't exactly his favorite (this coming from a big LOTR fan as well). It's always nice when people grow curious and dab into other types of media they may not have thought about or paid much attention to before and even better when they realize they are into it. Lol I was the same with comedy, was never into it, but my ex (whom is still a good friend now) got me into comedy with American Pie and I actually enjoy the genre at times now. As for the video, I loved your LOTR reactions and looking forward to more movies and maybe The Hobbit!? You two are so sweet together ^_^!
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"my friends, you bow to no one" always gets my eyes watery
That, plus "I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you", and "for not all tears are evil." Those are guaranteed to get the water works flowing.
Gandalf's speech to Pippin about death is just magical. My favorite moment in the entire trilogy.
Most of that speech is lifted from Tolkien's description of what Frodo experiences at the very end when he sails off to Valinor.
It's a beautiful piece of the book and it makes me so happy to have the description actually spoken as dialogue in the film.
"Are there any parodies?"
"The Hobbit"
I have never seen such pain in making a joke. LOL
The Hobbit is great tho, the 4K extended versions that is. Night and day better than the original ones.
@@GreenFalcon926 Agreed with the extended. Particularly the 3rd.
@@ravenlunatic8 The 4K remaster they did last year improves the visuals a great deal. They look similar to LotR now.
I love that line.
"There never was much hope. Only a fool's hope" I feel that line holds so much depth beneath it's calm surface. After all its said to Pippin who Gandalf openly calls a fool and said with a smile
” please don’t go Where i can’t follow” the most amazing line ever ❤️
I preferred “I can’t carry it for you, but I can carry you”
I can't shake the image of Sam, Merry and Pippin at the pub years later and telling everybody how the King of Gondor, the Prince of Mirkwood, the Steward of Gondor and his wife as well as her brother the King of Rohan, and a very important Dwarf Lord are all their personal friends, and how Frodo Baggins saved the world with their help, and everybody in Hobbiton just rolling their eyes and telling them to go home because they're drunk and telling the same BS stories again.
Having said that, I'm a 42 year old dude and I've seen these movies a dozen times at least, and every time I see the scene where Aragorn has been newly crowned King of Gondor and reunited with Arwen and he tells the hobbits in front of the whole world, "My friends, you bow to no one," and proceeds to bow to them along with Arwen and then everybody follows suit still makes me tear up. Even when it comes up in TH-cam reactions like yours. Every. Single. Time.
Read the books, because there's even more good stuff in there.
@@PhilBagels I understand the choice to leave all of the stuff in the Shire with the hobbits at the end of the book out of the movie for time constraints but I am still disappointed everytime I watch the movies and remember that that whole section of the book was left out of the movie.
@@Zenshu1 I'm sure it's too late now, but what they should have done is make a fourth movie: The Scouring of the Shire". I know this doesn't fit with the Hollywood way of doing things. They prefer gigantic, cosmic battles over personal, down-to-earth stories. But it seems to me that if they can stretch The Hobbit into three movies, they could certainly make LotR into four. In fact, they probably should have made LotR into six movies to fit better with the books.
And they made Harry Potter's seven books into eight movies, so what's the problem? There's nothing sacred about the number 3.
Given the way Hollywood remakes every movie, eventually, they'll make another LotR series of movies, and maybe they'll do it even better.
@@PhilBagels I don't have high hopes of a good remake if they ever do, hollywood usually ruins a good thing when they remake anything but IF they ever did it I would definitely have my fingers crossed for them to change how it ends back to how the books end because it was a much more powerful ending than the way they did it in the movies.
technically Rohan will have Eowyn as Queen, since Theoden told the people to follow HER in his stead and then died on the battle field(I have told them to follow YOU in my stead, take up my seat in the golden hall.) atleast in the movie I don´t remember the book.
Winner of 11 Oscars including Best Picture. The first and only Fantasy Adventure film to win and quite possibly the last Epic movie to win Best Picture.
Yup, there will probably never be another film to win like this movie did. Movies only win awards if they are politcal now.
It ain’t as good as Bad Boys II tho
I love Hannah's wink to the audience when AAron says, "That's it?" right after Gollum falls over the cliff at the exit from Shelob's lair.
Lol, his reaction to the first black screen!
When I saw this at the midnight release, one dude literally stood up after the 3rd fade to black, said “FUCK this, man” and walked out 😂
"Is this as good as bad boys 2?"
"Its up there"
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Haha 🤣
Sam is an obvious hero, for obvious reasons. But so is Frodo, but it's less explicit, I think.
I believe Frodo's heroism came from the fact that he spared Gollums life, when others, including Sam, would have killed him long before they reached Mordor.
That allowed the ring to be destroyed. Because it could not have been destroyed by anyone willingly.
As Tolkien writes about mount doom, it was "
the heart of the realm of Sauron [_] all other powers were here subdued".
No one could have willingly destroyed the ring, not even Sam. Therefore it was Frodo's pity and mercy that saved Middle-earth.
Aaron: "Don't sing, we might get a copyright strike."
Everyone else: "No... no you won't."
I've been looking forward to this.
My favorite part of this movie is when Aragorn says "You bow to no one" and the screen gets all blurry
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Tell me this isn't the greatest moment in cinema history. The scenery, the acting, the music. Its perfection
Tolkien the author of the story wrote a bit in a letter about Frodo and his mission:
"246 From a letter to Mrs Eileen Elgar (drafts) September 1963 [A reply to a reader's comments on Frodo's failure to surrender the Ring in the Cracks of Doom.]
Very few (indeed so far as letters go only you and one other) have observed or commented on Frodo's 'failure'. It is a very important point.
From the point of view of the storyteller the events on Mt Doom proceed simply from the logic of the tale up to that time. They were not deliberately worked up to nor foreseen until they occurred.1 But, for one thing, it became at last quite clear that Frodo after all that had happened would be incapable of voluntarily destroying the Ring. Reflecting on the solution after it was arrived at (as a mere event) I feel that it is central to the whole 'theory' of true nobility and heroism that is presented.
Frodo indeed 'failed' as a hero, as conceived by simple minds: he did not endure to the end; he gave in, ratted. I do not say 'simple minds' with contempt: they often see with clarity the simple truth and the absolute ideal to which effort must be directed, even if it is unattainable. Their weakness, however, is twofold. They do not perceive the complexity of any given situation in Time, in which an absolute ideal is enmeshed. They tend to forget that strange element in the World that we call Pity or Mercy, which is also an absolute requirement in moral judgement (since it is present in the Divine nature). In its highest exercise it belongs to God. For finite judges of imperfect knowledge it must lead to the use of two different scales of 'morality'. To ourselves we must present the absolute ideal without compromise, for we do not know our own limits of natural strength (+grace), and if we do not aim at the highest we shall certainly fall short of the utmost that we could achieve. To others, in any case of which we know enough to make a judgement, we must apply a scale tempered by 'mercy': that is, since we can with good will do this without the bias inevitable in judgements of ourselves, we must estimate the limits of another's strength and weigh this against the force of particular circumstances.2
I do not think that Frodo's was a moral failure. At the last moment the pressure of the Ring would reach its maximum - impossible, I should have said, for any one to resist, certainly after long possession, months of increasing torment, and when starved and exhausted. Frodo had done what he could and spent himself completely (as an instrument of Providence) and had produced a situation in which the object of his quest could be achieved. His humility (with which he began) and his sufferings were justly rewarded by the highest honour; and his exercise of patience and mercy towards Gollum gained him Mercy: his failure was redressed.
We are finite creatures with absolute limitations upon the powers of our soul-body structure in either action or endurance. Moral failure can only be asserted, I think, when a man's effort or endurance falls short of his limits, and the blame decreases as that limit is closer approached.3
Nonetheless, I think it can be observed in history and experience that some individuals seem to be placed in 'sacrificial' positions: situations or tasks that for perfection of solution demand powers beyond their utmost limits, even beyond all possible limits for an incarnate creature in a physical world - in which a body may be destroyed, or so maimed that it affects the mind and will. Judgement upon any such case should then depend on the motives and disposition with which he started out, and should weigh his actions against the utmost possibility of his powers, all along the road to whatever proved the breaking-point.
Frodo undertook his quest out of love - to save the world he knew from disaster at his own expense, if he could; and also in complete humility, acknowledging that he was wholly inadequate to the task. His real contract was only to do what he could, to try to find a way, and to go as far on the road as his strength of mind and body allowed. He did that. I do not myself see that the breaking of his mind and will under demonic pressure after torment was any more a moral failure than the breaking of his body would have been - say, by being strangled by Gollum, or crushed by a falling rock.
That appears to have been the judgement of Gandalf and Aragorn and of all who learned the full story of his journey. Certainly nothing would be concealed by Frodo! But what Frodo himself felt about the events is quite another matter
He appears at first to have had no sense of guilt (III 224-5); he was restored to sanity and peace. But then he thought that he had given his life in sacrifice: he expected to die very soon. But he did not, and one can observe the disquiet growing in him. Arwen was the first to observe the signs, and gave him her jewel for comfort, and thought of a way of healing him.4 Slowly he fades 'out of the picture', saying and doing less and less. I think it is clear on reflection to an attentive reader that when his dark times came upon him and he was conscious of being 'wounded by knife sting and tooth and a long burden' (III 268) it was not only nightmare memories of past horrors that afflicted him, but also unreasoning self-reproach: he saw himself and all that he done as a broken failure. 'Though I may come to the Shire, it will not seem the same, for I shall not be the same.' That was actually a temptation out of the Dark, a last flicker of pride: desire to have returned as a 'hero', not content with being a mere instrument of good. And it was mixed with another temptation, blacker and yet (in a sense) more merited, for however that may be explained, he had not in fact cast away the Ring by a voluntary act: he was tempted to regret its destruction, and still to desire it. 'It is gone for ever, and now all is dark and empty', he said as he wakened from his sickness in 1420.
'Alas! there are some wounds that cannot be wholly cured', said Gandalf (III 268) - not in Middle-earth. Frodo was sent or allowed to pass over Sea to heal him - if that could be done, before he died. He would have eventually to 'pass away': no mortal could, or can, abide for ever on earth, or within Time. So he went both to a purgatory and to a reward, for a while: a period of reflection and peace and a gaining of a truer understanding of his position in littleness and in greatness, spent still in Time amid the natural beauty of 'Arda Unmarred', the Earth unspoiled by evil.
Bilbo went too. No doubt as a completion of the plan due to Gandalf himself. Gandalf had a very great affection for Bilbo, from the hobbit's childhood onwards. His companionship was really necessary for Frodo's sake - it is difficult to imagine a hobbit, even one who had been through Frodo's experiences, being really happy even in an earthly paradise without a companion of his own kind, and Bilbo was the person that Frodo most loved."
Part of the reason Denethor is the way he is, apart from just being a rubbish father, is that he has a Palantir through which Sauron has been driving him mad with visions of despair and defeat.
25:45 Genuine medieval battle tactic to demoralise your opponent. Return dismembered bodies, can also have the advantage of promoting disease in a besieged city.
Never believe they are dead unless you see a body!
32:40 That is 'Grond' fiery battering ram.
The Elves on LOTRs mythos are leaving for Valinor into the west (A sort of Paradise). Frodo also goes because of the wounds and emotional weight of carrying the ring could only be healed in the undying lands of Valinor, where the "gods" of Middle earth live. So basically by the end of LOTRs, they simply were in decay, as the elves slowly move to the est to the point where, when Arwen dies, Galadriel, Elrond and most of the elves in Rivendel and Lothlorien have left already. You should read the Silmarillion. It answers most of your questions.
“Name one that’s better”
Sam’s speech, that’s like the best
Can't get enough of LOTR's reactions, loved it guys. I am 100% bias for the extended editions, but yea someone that wasn't much into epic fantasy before this, the theatricals are still good movies and best choice. best of luck in life guys.
When you realize Gandalf flew 3 eagles to the Mount Doom, 1 for Frodo, 1 for Sam and one for ... Smeagol.
Name one speech that's better: Theoden's speech, half an hour ago.
Speciali in german synchro.
Or anything by Churchill or a dozen from Shakespeare.
Independence Day speach before the jets fight the aliens.
😂😂😂
St. Crispin's Day, from HENRY V by William Shakespeare.
53:37 Masculinity doesn't disappear with tears.
49:58 I love how his first reaction is "You gotta kill him" lmao
I think Aaron would absolutely love Beren and Luthien. One of the greatest love stories of all time imo!
YES. YES A THOUSAND TIMES. Genuinely, Aaron, if you see this, there is a book called Beren And Luthien by the same author (it's part of The Silmarillion but it recently got released on it's own) and it is the most beautiful love story I have ever heard or read. Aragorn was singing part of it in the first movie in the marshy area.
Honestly, it is so good. May be a little confusing without context from the rest of The Silmarillion but that's fine.
@@Glorfindel_117 he didn't see Aragorn singing it unfortunately, that's only in the extended versions.
Theoden' s speech with the Death! chant blows Aragon's away
And then there's Sam's speech at the end of the previous movie.
@@PhilBagels very awesome meaningful speech by Sam
'Poor old Merry! How glad I am to see you again! But you are worn out, and I won’t bother you with any talk. But tell me, are you hurt, or wounded?’
‘No,’ said Merry. ‘Well, no, I don’t think so. But I can’t use my right arm, Pippin, not since I stabbed him. And my sword burned away like a piece of wood.’
Pippin’s face was anxious. ‘Well, you had better come with me as quick as you can,’ he said. ‘I wish I could carry you. You aren’t fit to walk any further. They shouldn’t have let you walk at all; but you must forgive them. So many dreadful things have happened in the City, Merry, that one poor hobbit coming in from battle is easily overlooked.’
‘It’s not always a misfortune being overlooked,’ said Merry. ‘I was overlooked just now by-no, no, I can’t speak of it. Help me, Pippin! It’s all going dark again, and my arm is so cold.’
‘Lean on me, Merry lad!” said Pippin. ‘Come now. Foot by foot. It’s not far.’
‘Are you going to bury me?’ said Merry.
‘No, indeed!’ said Pippin, trying to sound cheerful, though his heart was wrung with fear and pity. ‘No, we are going to the Houses of Healing.'
Tolkien experienced the Great War (World War 1) first hand. I cannot help thinking that he saw something like this scene, perhaps more than once.
Unfortunately neither Frodo not Sam would have willingly destroyed the ring. That was the whole purpose of Smeagol's roll. In fact, it's simply impossible to willingly destroy the ring by anyone.
Yoooo Aaron, Fellowship all the way!! By far my favourite too. Glad you liked them overall dude. Don’t jump in too quick and burn out, but I’m excited for you to see the extended editions
Here some Details what happends to the Rest of the Fellowship later on.
First off, Aragorn, who married Arwin, lived for 210 Years, and he had a Son who was named Eldarion, and several Daughters.
When in the year 120 of the Fourth Age, King ARagorn Elessar realised his days were at an end, he went to the House of the Kings in the Silent Street. He said farewell to his son Eldarion and his daughters and gave Eldarion his crown and sceptre. Arwen remained at Aragorn's side until he died. A year after Aragorn's death, Arwen died of a broken heart. Eldarion began his reign as the Second King of the Reunited Kingdom after his father's death.
Arwen died in the year 121 of the Fourth Age, after Aragorn's death, she died of a broken heart at Cerin Amroth in Lórien, and was buried there one year after the death of Aragorn, to whom she had been wedded for 122 years. She was 2901 years old.
Meriadoc Brandybuck Later Life:
Upon their return he and Pippin both married beautiful hobbit women. They were also the tallest of hobbits - Meriadoc being the slightly taller of the two - taller even than the legendary Bandobras "Bullroarer" Took, due to their having drunk large amounts of Entwater. Merry married Estella Bolger some time after the end of the Third Age. He became the Master of Buckland in SR 1432 (FA 11 *). He wrote Old Words and Names in the Shire. Although he was not recorded as having any children within the family trees, he clearly had at least one son. At the age of 102, Merry returned to Rohan and Gondor with Pippin, dying there some time after the year FA 63. He was laid to rest in Gondor, and when Aragorn died in FA 120, he and Pippin were entombed beside the great king
Peregrin Took Later Life:
In the year FA 6 of the Fourth Age Pippin married Diamond of Long Cleeve, when she was 32 and he himself was 37. They had one son, Faramir Took I, who later married Samwise Gamgee's daughter Goldilocks Gardner. In the year FA 13, Pippin became the 32nd Thain of the Shire, a position he held for 50 years before retiring in FA 63, when he revisited Rohan and Gondor with Merry. He remained in Gondor for the rest of his life. Pippin died some time after the year FA 63 and was laid to rest with Merry in Gondor. After the great King Elessar (Aragorn) died in FA 120, Merry and Pippin were entombed next to the great king.
Samwise Gamgee: After the War of the Ring
Following the Scouring of the Shire, Sam married Rose (Rosie) Cotton. They had thirteen children: Elanor the Fair, Frodo, Rose, Merry, Pippin, Goldilocks, Hamfast, Daisy, Primrose, Bilbo, Ruby, Robin, and Tolman. When Frodo Baggins announced that he was leaving to the Undying Lands, west of Middle-earth, he gave Sam the Red Book of Westmarch and the household of Bag End where he and his large personal family later called the Gardners would live for many years. After Will Whitfoot resigned his post as Mayor of Michel Delving, in SR 1427 (FA6), Sam was elected Mayor of the Shire for seven consecutive seven-year terms.
Later years
In their later years, Sam and Rosie went to Gondor and lived there for over one year in the house of King Aragorn II Elessar. When they returned, they lived out their lives seeing Sam's mayoral duties passed to Tolman Cotton Jr.. Rosie died in the year 61 in Mid-year's Day at the age of ninety-eight.
After his wife died in the year FA61 of the Fourth Age (SR 1482), Sam entrusted the Red Book to his daughter, Elanor, and left the Shire. It was a tradition handed down from Elanor that he went to the Grey Havens, and because he was also a Ring-bearer (albeit for a short time), he was allowed to pass over the Sea to be reunited with Frodo in the Undying Lands
Legolas Later Life:
After the destruction of the One Ring and of Sauron, Legolas stayed for the coronation of Aragorn II Elessar and his marriage to Arwen. Later, he and Gimli travelled together to Helm's Deep, visiting the Glittering Caves, and then later traveled through Fangorn Forest. Eventually, Legolas came to Ithilien with some of his people, with his father's leave, to live out his remaining time in Middle-earth helping to restore the woodlands that had been war-torn. After Aragorn's death, Legolas made a ship in Ithilien and left Middle-earth to go over the sea. His strong friendship with Gimli prompted Legolas to invite him to go to the Undying Lands; making him the first and only Dwarf to do so. He was never seen again in Middle-earth.
Gimlis Later Life:
After the War, Gimli led a large number of Durin's Folk south to establish a new Dwarf kingdom in the Glittering Caves, which were located behind Helm's Deep where Gimli was trapped during the battle, and he became the first Lord of the Glittering Caves. The Dwarves of the Glittering Caves, led by their Lord Gimli, would repair much of the physical damage that was incurred during the War of the Ring. Most notably, they rebuilt the Great Gate of Minas Tirith with a new one made of Mithril and steel, as well as improving upon the existing layout of the entire city.
Gimli was 139 years old (born in 2879 of the Third Age) when the Fellowship of the Ring set out from Rivendell, making him 52 years older than Aragorn. His date of death is not known, and according to the Red Book of Westmarch, he is said to have traveled with Legolas into the West, thus becoming the first dwarf to visit the Undying Lands. Of this possibility, Tolkien wrote that it would be strange indeed, that any Dwarf should be willing to leave Middle-earth for any love, or that the Eldar should receive him, or that the Lords of the West should permit it, but that it is said that Gimli went not only because of his great friendship with Legolas but also out of desire to see again the beauty of Galadriel; and that she, being mighty among the Eldar, may have obtained this grace for him. He was never seen again in Middle-earth.
*Fourth Age
2 Interesting Facts about the Battering Ram, Grond, that Mordor used.
First off, the Name Grond comes from the great Warhammer of Morgoth, the first Dark Lord, which he wielded in the First Age. It was also referred to as the Hammer of the Underworld, and was extremely powerful.
/ wiki / Grond _ (Warhammer)
The Wielder of Grond was Melkor, or later known as Morgoth. He was the First Dark Lord and also Saurons Master.
/ wiki / Melkor
Secondly, the Ram itself, especially the Head, was designed after the Great Wolf of Angband, Carcharoth.
Carcharoth, also known as the Red Maw, lived in the First Age of the Sun, and was the greatest werewolf that ever lived. He was of the line of Draugluin.
/ wiki / Carcharoth
(Copy the Links without the Spaces and put lotr dot fandom before the links with a c o m )
The Strenght of the Men of Middle Earth and the Strength of Mordor´s Troops was mentioned in those Numbers for the Movie ( while in the Books it was slightly different, with more Commanders mentioned on the Side of Men, less Orcs and some more Gondorian Soldiers, who even got Reinforcment from other Gondorian Districts who arent suffered from the War so far):
Strength of the Men:
4,000 Gondorian soldiers
6,000 Rohirrim riders
50,000 Undead soldiers
Mordors Side:
200,000 orcs
2,000 Corsairs
20 Mûmakil
2,000 Haradrim
All 9 Ringwraiths (for the first Initial Attack especially to destroy the Trebuchets at the Walls of Minas Tirith)
1 Warg
20 Trolls for direct Attacks, who were heavily armored and armed ( Many more for loading Stones on Catapults, moving the Siege Towers and using the Battering Ram Grond)
Varius Siege weapons, such as catapults, siege towers, a hand-used Battering ram and a giant Battering ram (Grond)
Heavy Casualties on the Side of Men:
2,500 Gondorian soldiers killed
2,000 Rohirrim riders killed + the lose of King Theoden
Catastrophic Casualties on the Side of Mordor:
198,000 orcs killed
2,000 Corsairs killed
20 Mûmakil killed
2,000 Haradrim killed
1 Ringwraith killed
1 Warg killed
20 Trolls killed + all Supporting Trolls
All Siege Weapons lost + the Death of there Commander Gothmog
, The Haradrim King and the Corsair Commander, while Saurons heaviest Lose was the Death of the Witch King of Angmar as his Highest Ranking Commander.
" are there any parodies for this?" "The Hobbit." pretty accurate lol
Ha ha, I like Aaron’s comment at the start ‘I’m more like you normal people out there’
Dude, none of are normal here. We are all magnificent nerds!
Thank you for uploading this - I’ve been impatiently waiting to see Aaron’s reaction to this freakin’ amazing movie. You guys are awesome!
It was a real pleasure watching you two smile over these movies. What really made this special to me was experiencing how genuine and real you both were, which is something so hard to convey on camera. You're both sensitive and beautiful. We can see how much you adore each other, and frankly I think we all fell a little in love with you both here. Thanks so much for making this, and I hope you had us much fun as I did!
"Are there any parody movies to this? Probably... The Hobbit?" Best answer ever.
nobody can destroy the ring voluntarily in mount doom, the ring's power is to strong there. not even the purest person can do it. a lot of information you guys wanted to see in future movies you can find in the books "the silmarillion". Aragorn dies first at age 210 i think and Arwen dies a couple of years later i think.
Fun fact: Oliphant is a real word for elephant. Its Anglo-Norman. Olifaunt for Middle English. It means both "ivory" and "elephant". Also, olifant is horn made of ivory
30:43 Hannah YOUR FACE hahahahahahahha lmfao the " BluhHhhHhHHhhHh " reaction hahahahaha
45:15
well, technically, Frodo was the Ring bearer. He was the one carrying the ring the whole time, slowly corrupting him from inside. If Sam had been the Ring Bearer, he would have also get corrupted. Slowly, but effectively.
So, in my opinion, giving all the credit just to Sam is ridicolous
Entirely possible but also possible he wouldn't have been since j.r.r. Tolkien said that Sam was the only one in middle earth to have held the ring and been able to give it up with no hesitation at all, he may have been able to carry the ring the whole way and still toss it had fate made him the ring bearer instead of frodo.
@@Zenshu1 Completely false, both in the book and in the movies, Sam is reluctant to return the ring to Frodo, and it is Frodo who rips it from his hands. Read again Book 6. Chapter 1: The tower of Cirith Ungol
Aaron geeking out over the awesome technology of a... wait for it... battering ram 🤣❤
Nobody:
Aaron: Daaang
I love the books (I was older when these movies came out and already a huge nerd and had read the books dozens of times). This is one of my favorite movies and overall they did a great job with getting the general theme/feel (I really enjoyed Fellowship, although not Two Towers) although I have a few quibbles. Denethor gets a little bit of a raw deal - he's still more or less a jerk in the books, but he has a little more subtlety/nuance, and his death isn't quite so ridiculous.
Eowyn and Faramir get more development in the book (they fall in love and she comes to terms with her own journey and depression) and I actually think her scene with the Witch King is much more dramatic in the book, especially as they keep her presence at the battle a secret in the book, so it's a true reveal when this mysterious soldier (going by Dernhelm) pulls their helmet off. The dialogue is a little better than 'I am no man!' which to me is a bit more modern sounding (although it's a similar sentiment, just more elegantly worded).
Tolkien has written a ton in his own letters and private writings about the meaning of the story, which is basically a meditation on grace/mercy. He got a bit of hate mail when Frodo 'succumbed' and thought Frodo should have been punished, but his reasoning was that Frodo was at his limits of what he could do morally/physically - nobody would have been able to resist the Ring in the heart of Sauron's power - and grace/mercy did the rest. That said, the whole experience still touched him, which is why in the end he can never fully heal on earth and needs to sail in to the West. There are also a lot of appendices where Tolkien writes about what happens to all the characters afterwards, and Sam eventually also goes after his wife dies, and Legolas also takes Gimli with him and Galadriel lets him in.
Regarding Saruman, the book is actually more depressing (but also in the theme of how awful war is) - he escapes, goes back to the Shire and devastates it to get revenge on the hobbits, so when the hobbits get back, they find everything ruined and under the control of his thugs, and have to fight yet another battle to liberate it. It's funny how you guys mentioned how everything is still the same and they have no idea what went on, because in the books, the point is that you can never really go home again.
Tolkien also agrees Sam is the true hero of the series :)
As an aside, because somebody mentioned it, Tolkien was on record that Gandalf isn't intended to be a Jesus figure as that wasn't something he was comfortable with portraying, nor is he intended to be an incarnation of god. In the cosmology he crafted, he's more of an angel with a specific purpose. He did put his faith into his story a lot, but he tried not to make it that specific.
Faramir and Eowyn bits in the book are great, my favorite scene of them together standing on the walls:
"And so they stood on the walls of the City of Gondor, and a great wind rose and blew, and their hair, raven and golden, streamed out mingling in the air. And the Shadow departed, and the Sun was unveiled, and light leaped forth; and the waters of Anduin shone like silver, and in all the houses of the City men sang for the joy that welled up in their hearts from what source they could not tell.
And before the Sun had fallen far from the noon out of the East there came a great Eagle flying, and he bore tidings beyond hope from the Lords of the West, crying:
Sing now, ye people of the Tower of Anor,
for the Realm of Sauron is ended for ever,
and the Dark Tower is thrown down.
Sing and rejoice, ye people of the Tower of Guard,
for your watch hath not been in vain,
and the Black Gate is broken,
and your King hath passed through,
and he is victorious.
Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West,
for your King shall come again,
and he shall dwell among you
all the days of your life.
And the Tree that was withered shall be renewed,
and he shall plant it in the high places,
and the City shall be blessed.
Sing all ye people!"
And later:
"Then Faramir laughed merrily. ‘That is well,’ he said; ‘for I am not a king. Yet I will wed with the White Lady of Rohan, if it be her will. And if she will, then let us cross the River and in happier days let us dwell in fair Ithilien and there make a garden. All things will grow with joy there, if the White Lady comes.’
‘Then must I leave my own people, man of Gondor?’ she said. ‘And would you have your proud folk say of you: “There goes a lord who tamed a wild shieldmaiden of the North! Was there no woman of the race of Númenor to choose?”’
‘I would,’ said Faramir. And he took her in his arms and kissed her under the sunlit sky, and he cared not that they stood high upon the walls in the sight of many. And many indeed saw them and the light that shone about them as they came down from the walls and went hand in hand to the Houses of Healing."
@@fantasywind3923 Mine too! That along with Eowyn unmasking herself at the battle, as well as the arrival of the Rohirrium at the end of the Dawnless Day (the concept of which didn't make it into the movie). Rohan had come at last!
This is actually a brilliant essay on a site I follow about Faramir which, among other things, talks about how he is apparently such a good kisser that he drives the pall of gloom away from Minas Tirith :) www.tor.com/2020/05/18/where-the-steward-is-king-faramir-is-never-second-best/
Lord of the rings as good as bad boys 2?
*insert meme of that woman trying to figure out math equations 😅
Gonna be a great watch, thanks for the upload guys, that’s my Saturday night sorted here in the UK👌👌
I respect when a person's fav film is something along the lines of 7 samurai, Chungking Express, Persona, Citizen Kane, etc but Bad Boys 2.
Talking about dumb, you can't even compose a grammatical sentence.
Aaron’s reaction is always the BEST!
-Frodo had to go with the elves because he still needs their medicine and he wasn’t completely healed and also the first stab is making him dying slowly.
- they had to cut so much because if they will make everything extended only the NERDS will he interested to watch it, you guys need to understand if you want to reach a vast audience you need to keep their attention span, so they can’t include every detail cause LESS people will be interested.
Okay, so I burst out laughing at the cutout because when I was in college (back in the early 2000s) one of my friends in our friend group had a cutout like this and we had all sorts of dumb shenanigans with it lmao. I also had a ridiculous crush on Elijah Wood, hahaha.
Interesting Fact: Although it isnt really said in the movies the weapons that are carried by the hobbits given to them by Aragorn on Weathertop (in books they got them from a barrow) were forged in the middle of the third age by during the wars with Angmar and the Witchking; and are bound with spells. When Merry stabs the Witchking the spells on the blade cut through the enchantments wove around the Witchking (Thats why he screams and goes to his knees) thus allowing Eowyn's plain sword to pierce the witchking. It was a group Effort LOL
One last comment, because of all the interest in the 'what happens afterwards' - in addition to the Appendices that were published with Return of the King, Tolkien also wrote an Epilogue that for whatever reason, he did not publish, but you can read it in the History of Middle earth books. It's a very sweet moment with Sam and Elanor (his daughter) describing what happened to everybody, and setting up his eventual departure. If you want to read it, it's here: faculty.smu.edu/bwheeler/tolkien/online_reader/TolkienEpilogue.pdf
Tolkien also started an actual sequel but abandoned it because it got a little too dark/depressing since it was basically about evil resurfacing as it always does. There's a few chapters in one of the HOME books though.
Oh, and yeah, Bilbo, Frodo (and later Sam) go to Valinor basically to 'heal' (kind of like the idea of Purgatory) but they do eventually die, as they are mortal. It is only through special permission/grace that they are allowed there (Gimili gets to go too). I don't think they would (or even could) come back, though, and the Elves are basically leaving Middle Earth. Gandalf and the Elves, on the other hand, will continue to live there basically until the end of the world and its remaking. Nobody really knows what happens to them, or to mortal souls.
I always liked that unpublished epilogue, it shows how amazing Tolkien as writer was when even at the end he managed to make the Elanor an intriguing character.
"‘Don’t write any more tonight. Talk to me, Sam-dad!’ said Elanor, and drew him to a seat by the fire.
‘Tell me,’ she said, as they sat close together with the soft golden light on their faces, ‘tell me about Lórien. Does my flower grow there still, Sam-dad?’
‘Well dear, Celeborn still lives there among his trees and his Elves, and there I don’t doubt your flower grows still. Though now I have got you to look at, I don’t hanker after it so much.’
‘But I don’t want to look at myself, Sam-dad. I want to look at other things. I want to see the hill of Amroth where the King met Arwen, and the silver trees, and the little white niphredil, and the golden elanor in the grass that is always green. And I want to hear Elves singing.’
‘Then, maybe, you will one day, Elanor. I said the same thing when I was your age, and long after it, and there didn’t seem to be no hope. And yet I saw them, and I heard them.’
‘I was afraid they were all sailing away, Sam-dad. Then soon there would be none here; and then everywhere would be just places and’
‘And what, Elanorellë?’
‘And the light would have faded.’
‘I know,’ said Sam. The light is fading, Elanorellë. But it won’t go out yet. It won’t ever quite go out, I think now, since I have had you to talk to. For it seems to me now that people can remember it who have never seen it. And yet,’ he sighed, ‘even that is not the same thing as really seeing it, like I did.’
'Like really being in a story?’ said Elanor. “A story is quite different, even when it is about what happened. I wish I could go back to old days!’
‘Folk of our sort often wish that,’ said Sam. ‘You came at the end of a great Age, Elanorellë, but though it’s over, as we say, things don’t really end sharp like that. It’s more like a winter sunset. The High Elves have nearly all gone now with Elrond. But not quite all; and those that didn’t will wait now for a while. And the others that belong here, will last even longer. There are still things for you to see, and maybe you’ll see them sooner than you hope.’
Elanor was silent for some time before she spoke again. ‘I did not understand at first what Celeborn meant when he said goodbye to the King,’ she said. ‘But I think I do now. He knew that Lady Arwen would stay, but that Galadriel would leave him. I think it was very sad for him. And for you, dear Sam-dad.’ Her hand felt for his, and his brown hand clasped her slender fingers. ‘For your treasure went too. I am glad Frodo of the Ring saw me, but I wish I could remember seeing him.’
‘It was sad, Elanorellë,’ said Sam, kissing her hair. ‘It was, but it isn’t now. For why? Well, for one thing, Mr. Frodo has gone where the elven-light isn’t fading; and he deserved his reward. But I have had mine, too. I have had lost of treasures. I am a very rich hobbit. And there is one other reason, which I shall whisper to you, a secret I have never told before to no one, nor put in the Book yet. Before he went Mr. Frodo said that my time maybe would come. I can wait. I think maybe we haven’t said farewell for good. But I can wait. I have learned that much from the Elves at any rate. They are not so troubled about time. And so I think Celeborn is still happy among his trees, in an Elvish way. His time hasn’t come, and he isn’t tired of his land yet. When he is tired he can go.’
‘And when you’re tired, you will go too, Sam-dad. You will go to the Havens with the Elves. Then I shall go with you. I shall not part with you, like Arwen did with Elrond.’
‘Maybe, maybe,’ said Sam kissing her gently. ‘And maybe not. The choice of Lúthien and Arwen comes to many, Elanorellë, or something like it; and it isn’t wise to choose before the time.’"
And the actual closing lines have certain deep feeling about it:
"Sam shut the door. But even as he did so, he heard suddenly, deep and unstilled, the sigh and murmer of the Sea upon the shores of Middle Earth."
@@fantasywind3923 He had such a beautiful, affecting elegant way of writing things that touch on deep truths.
@@lisamarieligreci-newton7804 yes that is well put.
"No man can kill me"...."I am no man"! chilles everytime I see it!
BF:"Are there any parodies for this?"
GF:(With strained smoldering anger at the suggestion) "...probably"
GF:"The Hobbit"
Me: same
Or the god awful restroscope monstrosity Lord of the Rings animation. But that is not the Return of the King, that Animation, like the 1977 Hobbit animation is forgivable for it's time and budget.
If you want to know more about Galadriel and the elves have a read of both the Silmarillion and the Unfinished Tales.
Worth pointing out for anyone who hasn't read the books, that when she said "the Sire was in disarray," she meant that it was occupied by the remnants of Mordor's army! The Scourge of the Shire is the most unfortunate loss from the books, appearing only as Galadriel's vision.
Also, the BEST satire/parody of LotR is "Escape from the Bloodkeep." It's a live-play TTRPG from College Humor, and a real love letter to LotR.
Out of any movie or movie series, this one hits the most and has the best conclusion to the story. No abrupt ending or leaving it overly sappy, but giving a somewhat bittersweet one. It's also not afraid to drag out its scenes and KNOWS it's emotional, giving you time to wipe tears away than to try and rush it just cause the "plot has been resolved".
Fantastic set of movies and story written by Tolkien. The movies themselves aren't perfect but a near perfect representation of what's humanly possible. As said though the ending is perfect to me and more movies should give more time to giving a final conclusion to the aftermath of the story and to not be afraid to make it just as much happy as sad.
One of my favorite aspects of Gollum's "future" part to play that Gandalf hints at in Moria is how everything was still so up in the air that Smeagol might've been saved...which is why three eagles flew to Mt Doom.
My girl with the long brown hair and dark green leggings, I think your name is Emily, I feel like you and me would have been best friends growing up! Your stories sound so much like mine!
As my screen name suggests, I am a huge Lord of the Rings fan, taking my name from The Silmarillion. I had Lord of the Rings posters (still have 1, the map of middle earth), printouts covering all my binders, and even became friends with some teachers because of our mutual fandom :)
I can't believe you met Dominic Monaghan!!! I would have lost my mind too
I agree with the theatrical version showing. Your reasoning is strong. Good luck all
I understand that Gollum is bad but without him they wouldn't have been able to enter into Mordor. If Sam had killed him, their quest would have failed. That's the ambiguity with the character of Gollum as Gandalf said in the first movie.
I don't know if they had reached Mordor, but surely Sam would not have been able to stop Frodo when he wanted to keep the ring
Tossing skulls into a castle under siege was actually a common practice in ancient warfare. It was a demoralizing tactic and had the added benefit of spreading disease into the walls.
Trivia fact: The arm holding Sting at 34.44 isn't Sean Astin, it's Director Peter Jackson's arm in a 'filler' shot. Jackson also cameos as the bearded pirate who gets hit by Legolas' arrow. He also appears in the other five middle earth movies. And the fight scene between Frodo & Gollum in Shelobs lair had additional close ups. The scene had already been shot & Andy Serkis went to Jacksons home for dinner one night but was asked to do some close up shots for the CGI team. So Serkis ended up rolling around on the floor while being recorded by Jackson on a camcorder for motion capture reference.
19:11 Check out "Bored of the Rings", a 1969 parody short novel written by the guys who later founded National Lampoon. In 2013, an audio version was produced by Orion Audiobooks.
Frodo pulls Sam from the water.
Sam pulls Frodo from the fire.
Amazing reaction, guys! Tks
35:48 Congratulations Aaron, you just got another step closer to the alter.
Frodo sees his own possible future in Gollum/Smaegol in a way that Sam cannot. That is why gradually Frodo feels closer to Smaegol than he does to Sam, finally telling Sam to go home and following Smaegol.
53:36 - "Are you crying?" "No, I don't cry. I'm a man."
Me too...except during Lord of the Rings...and Band of Brothers...and Saving Private Ryan...and Shawshank Redemption...and Schindler's List...and It's a Wonderful Life...and Big Fish...and Braveheart...and The Green Mile...and Toy Story 3...and Rudy...and...
If there's nothing in life that brings a man to tears, he's not a man. He's a robot.
LOTR up there with bad boys 2 😂😂😂 That shows he is good husband material 😁 Seriously, I was expecting the Godfather for comparison when it comes to the best of high-quality movies.
Shire was actually touched by the events in the books, there were couple situations where Peter Jackson took creative liberties with the movies to cut down a bit of a story and that was one of them. Common man, Bad Boys II favorite movie? I feel like there are so many movies you should see, Braveheart, Gladiator, Taken, Dark Knight, Titanic, Wolf of Wallstreet, Seven, 13th Warrior, Inception, just to name a few. There were plenty of parodies, two that come to mind is Jack Black MTV awards skit and Big Bang theory episode with the one ring.
The speech from Independence Day was pretty good.
So awesome to see you love these movies!
What Aaron said about the 'people in the shadow' who do things, do their job, is actually one of the themes of story as Tolkien wrote, one quote even exemplifies it: "This quest may be attempted by the weak with as much hope as the strong. Yet such is oft the course of deeds that move the wheels of the world: small hands do them because they must, while the eyes of the great are elsewhere."
Book answers some of the questions in the 'where are they now' angle, we get to learn stuff about the lives of the members of fellowship after the quest, curiously enough apparently Peter Jackson team made some of the scenes that were never released regarding those, even extended editions didn't have them. Lotr book appendices contains a lot of additional information. By the way for a moment I though that you'll start a discussion about the upcoming Amazon's Lotr tv show ;) hehe. Now THAT'S something to discuss about hehe.
Though I love so many lines people mention, Frodo saying, "There is no going back," remains my favorite line of the trilogy. It really struck me personally for multiple reasons, and that is what makes a story like this so great--almost everyone connects to it in some way.
Tolkien like no other would have understood and that's why it is all the more touching, for we know that he probably felt the same after his experiences:
"“There is no real going back. Though I may come to the Shire it will not seem the same; for I shall not be the same. I am wounded with knife, sting, and tooth, and a long burden."
Gandalf’s back, and you gonna be in trouble, hey na, hey na, my Gandalf’s back ...
Many years later, it was said that the Elves sent a ship back for Sam, as Sam had technically been a ringbearer for the briefest of time after the ambush in Shelob's lair, and took him to the Undying Lands to be with Bilbo and Frodo et al.
ON TO RHE HOBBIT 🎉🎉🎉🥳🍾
The world is divided into two types of people. Those who have seen 'The Lord of the Rings' and those who are going to.😊
51:35 The ring doesn't "let go" until Frodo lets go of it.
Great video guys, and i had the same thought about Saroman. As Aaron back in 2003 i was like where the heck is he, then i saw the Extended and was like oh ok gotcha.
I love lord of the rings movies and the hobbit trilogy BUT i will say Rings is better. 😉
41:34 that face change though, perfect
It is one of my favorites too, but I think the battle speech in Braveheart is a little, tiny bit better. :-)
most of the questions they leave open about future of the various characters and what their destiny is are actually answered either in the books (in the appendix) or in the silmarillion and other books by Tolkien
Frodo would have never thrown the ring in the fire. In the books at the beginning Gandalf tells him to throw it in the fireplace, that way he could find out if it was the one ring, and Frodo couldn’t even do it then.
Makes you wonder if that's why he sent Sam along with him. Good thinking.
Wasnt it even said that the Ring couldnt be destroyed, like a prophecy or something? Like it wouldnt let anyone to throw it into the lava at that point?
Something like Eru actually having to intervene and 'push' Gollum of the edge 🤔
You two are so wholesome dang. I love it. Thank you for being some of the only youtubers who do not ruin their videos with swearing
Question 1. Unlikely. Even if he had decided to destroy the Ring, by the time he made the decision the Ringwraiths would have caught up to him and killed both him and Sam and brought the Ring back to Sauron.
Question 2. That whole ending is applicable to the poor bastards who came home from WW1, most of whom were completely ruined.
Question 3. We don't see it, but while the Fellowship is off doing their thing, attacks are made on Lothlórien as well as several other places. And if you guys wanna see more of the Elves, read the Silmarillion.
You like Aragorn's speech, check out Shakespeare's Henry V. St. Crispin's Day Speech (Act IV Scene iii). Check out Kenneth Branagh's version; you should be able to find the scene easily enough on TH-cam. Best locker-room halftime speech ever.
Want to be creeped out even more by the spider? Have your phone go off on vibrate near your hip right at the most suspenseful moment. I did that a couple years ago and legit sprained my ankle hopping up so bad I couldn't walk on it for 3 weeks!
32:47 Catapults are more technologically advanced than battering rams.
Can wait for you guys too watch the Hobbit!
34:12 So much for the mithril chainmail! In the book, Shelob stings him in the neck.
In regards to the post movie conversation.... each of the Hobbits actually have significant roles in the shire, particularly Sam of course, but once frodo goes to the undying lands, they really take on significant roles. I won't touch in the scouring of the shire in the books with sarumon but dig deeper if you want
At the 2004 MTV Movie Awards, "Bad Boys II" was nominated for "Best Action Sequence" for the inter-coastal freeway pursuit, but lost to "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" - 'nuff said.
39:08 And that's why we have safety rails, people.
Another epic speech Braveheart.
45:49 Yep, he won't cope with the extended editions. You should've shown him the Bakshi version instead. 🤣
Was kinda hoping to see Hannah playing the Minas Tirith music on the piano.
My favourite scene in these movies is the ride of the pretty dudes
Found it wierd that none mentioned anything from silmarillion in the aftertalk:o would´ve been fun to deepdive into that a bit and get the soon to be husband to understand the scale of this world tolkien created:)
1:25:20 Gandalf is not " going to the land and die " . Read again the book , the appendix and perhaps the Silmarillion to really understand the nature of Gandalf
1:30:15 For the destiny of Sam and elves read the appendix at the end of the book . And Galadriel go with Frodo on the boat ....
1:38:05 Frodo is not going to Valinor (the West) because he "has completed his task" but because of the Morgul's blade wound and the burden of the ring on his mind that he can't completely heal in Middle earth . So the Lord of the West ( sort of Archangel if you want) grant him to come to their Land as no mortal (apart from a few chosen) can't sail to the Undying Lands unless being invited.
In the books the Shire is not out of trouble, there is more battles with Saruman
LOL, I think some of you in the comments are really gettin too snippy about Aaron's favorite movie xD. So what if his favorite is Bad Boys II? Doesn't mean it's a bad movie, everyone has different interests and taste in the kind of media they like. I think what matters here is that he genuinely and greatly enjoyed it, even if it isn't exactly his favorite (this coming from a big LOTR fan as well). It's always nice when people grow curious and dab into other types of media they may not have thought about or paid much attention to before and even better when they realize they are into it.
Lol I was the same with comedy, was never into it, but my ex (whom is still a good friend now) got me into comedy with American Pie and I actually enjoy the genre at times now.
As for the video, I loved your LOTR reactions and looking forward to more movies and maybe The Hobbit!? You two are so sweet together ^_^!
Hannah: She big
Aaron: She thicc
Me: She-lob! Hehehehehehe
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