"Summerslam needs a happy ending" 2011: Del Rio cashes in on Punk 2012: Brock beats Triple H 2013: Orton Cashes in on Bryan 2014: Brock Squashes Cena Vince really changed his energy after that real fast.
I mean that’s been a problem since that terrible ending at Mani when Hogan squashed Yokozuna after he won the title off of Bret Hogan literally talked Vince into the idea that “they” NEEDED to send the fans home happy so booked himself to win back the title from the monster heel …and then proceeded to sit out Summerslam or doing anything at all until Vince had enough and had him revenge squashed by Yokozuna and released
@@PlusUltraAdrian let's just agree that most of the time, SummerSlam is practically WrestleMania for heels; where most heels gets their happy ending before another closure at WrestleMania lol
@@MrJCV1605 me being fun at parties has nothing to do with him being annoying and unfunny. People are really starting to over use that fun at parties jab.
I always got the feeling Cena didn’t want to put nexus over. Everyone whose spoken about it from nexus themselves to guys on team cena like Edge & Jericho wanted them to go over but it did feel like Cena didn’t like the group winning. Him repeating what Vince said feels like an admission
U think Cena would've agreed to lose to Wade at HIAC & be the Nexus's bitch for nearly 2 months? It was entirely a Vince call & Cena was the face of the company at the time.
@@lancethefilmguy9392Cena doesn’t care about anyone else in the company. he was a greedy man only trying to further his own fame and wealth (like most men would do, i might add)
@@lancethefilmguy9392because cena went to vince and changed his mind? No point trying to argue against peoples word of whom were actually there and publicly stated it themself like Jericho
Well said that makes me feel better. They would have immediately lost in a rematch the ppv after, or every member of the faction would lose 1 on 1 matches the RAW after Summerslam
Most likely, they would have lost at Survivor Series 2010 and be disbanded the following night on Raw. Similar to what happened to the Alliance back in 2001.
they should have had nexus win in summerslam then have a rematch all the way down to wrestlemania 27, and lose and get disbanded, this what slater came up with, and I like it
@@dn22pkkdd476someone gets it Always remember unless under pressure, Vince will generally do his own thing with the only interference being making sure it “fits” the casual and public appeal for being PG and being Publicly Traded business (those being everything he does post Ruthless Aggression Era Further examples: It took the WHOLE McMahon family to get him to drop his desire for an incest angle between either him and Steph or Shane and Steph, mind you this was the Attitude Era so it was just his family instead of those previously mentioned More recent one is Moxley having to vehemently state to never do a promo Vince wanted him to do during his final run as Dean because it was likely to get WWE MASSIVE heat with sponsors and the like His booking regarding Trips vs Booker and then MUCH later Heel Daniel vs Kofi which no matter WHAT they try to say came off COMPLETELY racist And as you stated Vince’s characters aren’t even that good longterm, even short term Austin came up with Stone Cold post WCW and during his brief time in ECW, Vince gave us The Ringmaster The Rock was from Dwayne’s legit issues with the fans and support from Farooq and The Nation of Domination, Vince created the greatly fan hated Maivia Even Hogan developed his skills in the ring and mic through his time in NJPW and AWA, Vince just provided a bigger platform and had him use a much “stereotypical style”
"It is SummerSlam, we need to send the fans home happy" SummerSlam 2009 a year before: Heel Randy Orton is beating the babyface John Cena and the heel CM Punk is beating babyface Jeff Hardy in the double main event. 🤷♂
Vince in 2010: "This is Summerslam and it needs a happy ending" 1993: *People celebrate a count out victory as if it were a title change* 1995: *Ratings Killer puts fans to sleep in the WORST SS Main Event of all time* 2003: *Reign of Terror buries another former WCW top star, despite Trips having a legit injury* Summerslam Endings after 2010... 2011: *Notable Prick cashes in on Summer of Punk* 2013: *Daniel Bryan coronation ruined by cash-in* 2016: *Bork Laser murders Viper on Live Television* ....Yeah, happy ending my ass.
The misfortune of Nexus happening in 2010, at the peak of kid-friendly WWE. Ever since Rock returned in 2011, Punk's pipebomb happened the same year, Brock Lesnar returned the next year, Bray Wyatt happened the year after that, and WWE slowly started getting less kid-friendly. But in 2010 it was almost brutal to watch.
I'll forever be baffled how WWE didn't go with the story that I was 100% sure they were going with. Like, this wasn't even fantasy booking. I was genuinely convinced that this was where they were going and that I'd caught the hints and cracked the code. It was just so perfectly, specifically set up. When Cena was forced to join Nexus, he initially responded by beating up Nexus members and saying that he was gonna destroy them from the inside or something. Didn't really make sense, but whatever. But then the Anonymous Raw General Manager(aka the stupid laptop read by Cole) stated that being part of the Nexus meant that he had to follow the orders of their leader, and as the Nexus recognized Wade Barrett as the leader, Cena would be forced to obey him. Or be fired? Or something. Anyway, I thought this was a GIANT foreshadowing of an awesome storyline. The laptop was so specific. Cena had to follow Barrett because the Nexus RECOGNIZED him as their leader! So I was so sure that we were getting a storyline where Cena would go full on dark, evil Cena, Nexus shirt and all, but then in being evil Super Cena and bringing endless success to the Nexus, the Nexus members would begin to follow HIM and recognize Cena as their actual leader. Then once Cena officially became the leader of the Nexus(via one-on-one or a civil war Survivor Series match or something), boom swerve, turns out it was all a giant ruse by Cena to no longer have to answer to anyone and to also have the power to disband and thereby destroy the Nexus from the inside, just like he always wanted. Could have also led to further storylines where certain faces(like face Orton, etc) were none too happy about all the Nexus shenanigans Cena had been imposing on them, and weren't about to just forgive him for what he'd done. But, instead, we got the typical Cena Wins LOL story we'd gotten endless times by that point(and would again for a while), and I pretty much threw my hands up and tapped out of wrestling until CM Punk's big singles push.
This is facts!! Man somebody give this guy a job, and pen 🖊️ he knows what’s up, and yk what I was thinking about the shirt stuff, he could’ve just had a nexus/cena shirt made .. literally more profit to be made & everybody wins.
Ok, but why would your fantasy booking be any better? That's just more "Cena wins LOL" nonsense in which The Nexus would still be buried by Super Cena, only this time, Heel Super Cena.
@@RuanAntunes7 I am just joking. We all know that John Cena just doing what Vince McMahon saying to him. However many people believe that even back in a day John Cena have strong influence on creative power to change the ending decision of that SummerSlam match. But he for some reason decided not helping Nexus
@Qin_Lee Can people please choose. Is Vince a hard headed a*sh*le that when he gets an opinion of someone nomatter what he buries them? Or is he a wishy washy flake that everyone scares into doing what they want? Gotta pick one,he can't be both.
@@RuanAntunes7It is Vince's fault we never got over! It is John Cena's fault we got over! It is the hot dog guy's fault we never got over! The hotdogs guy buried us!
Vince: "its summerslam we have to send the fans home happy" Also Vince the year before this at summerslam: heel cm punk beats jeff hardy Also Vince the year after the nexus storyline: heel del rio cashes in Also Vince the year after that heel lesnar defeats hhh Also Vince the year after that Orton and Hhh turn heel on bryan Also Vince the year after that heel lesnar squashes cena..... As you can see almost every summerslam from that period had heels win in main event.
I was in attendance at SummerSlam 2010. On one hand, that main event was the worst, stupidest booked ending I've seen in person. On the other hand, the fact that it has (understandably) become one of the most notorious endings in WWE history, and I was there in person, gives it a special place in my heart. It's a bad match, but it's MY bad match!
The misfortune of the Nexus happened in 2010 because of the peak of kid-friendly, aka PG Era or Universe Era while you was attendance in person at Summerslam 2010.
I was at sumemrslam 05 when Shawn Michaels over sold everything against hogan. I honestly thought it was awesome in person. It wasn’t until years later I learned that people hated it lol
Cena basically helped to kill the career of Wade Barrett. He should have been a top star, but Cena couldn't stop being Hogan for a minute to do business.
Blame should be 200% on Vince tho. I will never understand why he let his top employees have so much say so when it effected the future of the company? And he just saw what happened with Triple H. Granted Cena sold more, but he could get injured. Then what's even more funny is how Vince reacted to Austin the person who saved the company wanting to put Lesner over the right way. Curious why Austin didn't get as much say so as Hunter Cena and Hogan
@@jetla22who says Austin didn't?? He's the reason HHH had to wait an extra year to win his first World Title. You think Vince LITERALLY goes along with every single thing a top star says?? EVERYBODY has been told NO at one point. Even Cena, Hogan and HHH.
@@jetla22 Austin had plenty of say. He refused to put over HHH, he refused to work with Billy Gunn, Marc Mero and Jeff Jarrett then he refused to lose to Brock on TV.
A huge and hot heel faction with a bunch of no names? No. It worked for nwo because they were established characters. Casual viewers never bought into the the nxt guys. They simply weren't fun to watch.
@scourgemeltface but a group of very dominant, good performing younger superstars coming in and toppling the Cena dynasty wouldn't have made at least 1 or 2 new stars from that group? Not everything has to be the NWO Barret could have been great, Danielson should never have been fired and could have benefitted even more from this and a few of the other guys could have had significantly better careers than they did Also Ryback was there 😂
Yes Nexus needed that momentum with a win at Summerslam 2010. But sources says that Vince and Cena needed a win to send the crowd mainly kids happy. Such that wasnt necessary for Cena to win and its unfortunate, and Edge and Jericho told him its a bad decision. Looking back, its one of the bad decisions in WWE.
The most anoying part is. They could even book him strong in a loss. Hell even let him be in a 3v1. Eat a chairshiot for a DQ. Then somehow beat gabriel. And then eat the pin to wade. He would look strong as hell and the Nexus still go over since they won 7v7 AND Barrett could go on and on about how he pinned cena. But no he had to eat a DDT on the exposed floor and win 2v1 😂
I was a kid during this time and i wanted nexus to win also got tired of cens always winning in 2007 and stopped watching completely along with all my friends until 2012
Cena made a bad call at Summerslam but it was still salvageable, over the next couple of months he got beaten and humbled by the Nexus regularly. Should have carried the feud with Barrett over to at least WrestleMania.
They would've had to go for an entire year since Summerslam is only a couple months after Wrestlemania. There's no way they ever would've locked Cena into a feud with a bunch of mid carders for that long, nor should they have.
The thing I don't understand about the merch thing is that you could've had it just be a one time thing where Cena came out in full nexus attire. He could've ripped it off in frustration and right before he takes off the armband, Wade could've stopped him and it turns into a story thing where he has to rep the armband to show his loyal fans and supporters that underneath all those flashy colors; He belongs to Nexus.
That isn't really how merchandising works. Especially when it comes to a fandom-based good. Cena supporters wouldn't gravitate to something Cena himself was actively against. No, it's not because they bought into kayfabe, but rather, the shirt itself was counterintuitive to what they would want. Another thing that Wade did not mention is the fact that Nexus were a thing during the time he debuted the purple shirt, and prior to his joining them. Cena joining Nexus was not in the initial plans from what I could see. Otherwise, certain tweaks in the order of events would have been implemented. Merchandising also needs repeated exposure for situations like these. That's what Barrett himself was explaining when he mentioned the basic design.
It doesn’t matter Vince would’ve did something wild to mess everything up anyways, He always does even if Nexus won they still lost. Cena is super loyal to WWE that’s why he’s that way he’s said it time and time again.
True but he's also picky sometimes on who he puts over He wants them to do good If they beat em He doesn't lose to people who don't have any potential and tbh cena did the right thing ofc Vince woulda messed things up
Wish this guy could still go in the ring. He was an awesome wrestler. Bareknuckles guy was a great thing. Then when they formed that international group with him and Shemus and Alberto Del Rio and I think there was the younger version of Drew McIntyre. But Barrett was cool.
My GF at the time saw the Nexus stuff having never watched wrestling before and got hooked. She thought the fact that they were 7 geeks that couldn't get anything accomplished without 6 other guys beating everyone up for them was so enraging. And then they started beating up the older guys and she HATED them. Hated them. She'd yell over their promos that they weren't men. She'd ask me how they were allowed to get away with cheating like this Instead of just being fired, but then clarify she meant *after* they got their asses kicked first. She watched Summerslam and she was so happy that Nexus got their shit kicked in, and then never cared about them again. She liked a few guys like Edge and Orton after having watched that summer, so for the next year or two, she'd keep up what they were doing, but up to Summerslam she was watching every minute of every show, the good guy won, she cheered, and was done. They made a new casual fan for a few years, but they were in the process of making a pretty hardcore one if they didn't tell her "okay that story's over now, here's another one." She was in for that story, they gave her the payoff, she said "this has been fun, I'll call you" to the show as a whole.
@theonlygoodonehere2259 just because they eliminated everyone else on the team, doesn't mean they didn't spend the match getting their shit kicked in. They spent the match on the run from the guys who were presented as way above them. Almost the entire WWE side lost due to in-fighting and a DQ
@@realrobrose thats their fault, they have much more experience than nexus, and it was still even, one of the dq's helped wwe roster steal 1 from the nexus
@theonlygoodonehere2259 now you're arguing tiny semantics. The point is that she experienced the match as them getting their shit kicked in and was done. You can go see a movie where the good guy destroys the bad guy and decide "I don't ever need to see sequels to this, that was enough" and then the person next to you to explain away all the reasons why really all the ways the bad guy lost was actually not that definitive, but if you have to do that, you're just the one who's doing the job the movie was supposed to do, and you're not gonna talk a person into changing their emotional experience of what just happened by explaining all these little things. Like, she wasn't gonna watch them all get their comeuppance and then get talked into how they didn't really. They did. She saw it, she cheered she moved on. There was no "but no no really the bad guys are still bad" when you just saw them get wedgies and shoved in lockers and laughed at and did nothing about it.
Damn bro. Literally the same situation with the woman I was with at the time. She seen the start of the Nexus angle and was hooked. Plus she knew Otunga as Punk from when he was on I Love NY. She def hated them Nikkas. Except Heath Slater who she had a insane crush on.
What does The Nexus and Damien Sandow have in common? Both of them were buried due to horrendous and poor booking and with the burying power John Cena had. 😅
@@Old-Boy_BEbop thinking cenas “influence” overrides the owner is moronic. Cena and stone cold told vince to push Cesaro didn’t happen, cena told vince to push breezango didn’t happen, cena tried to get cryme Tyme a push didn’t happen,
To be fair. I do get the decision to make the nexus lose in terms of business. Because as a child I absolutely hated the nexus and idolized Cena. A lot of us who were kids around that time did. And I know for a fact that a lot of us (who were children at the time) would have been LIVID had the nexus won. So I get wanting to give it a “happy ending” because let’s not forget, they were the supposed bad guys. However my only issue is the trajectory of Wade’s career AFTER the loss. I really felt like he was world champ material and they dropped the ball on him. Edit: you can still have someone lose but still have their career go in the proper trajectory. So it’s not entirely on Cena. Vince is the one who dropped the ball on Wade overall
I don't know if Nexus Wade Barrett was ready for a world title. But his 2012 version did deserve it. Wade Barrett not being a world champion once should not be legal. The guy was too good at his time.
IN 02, Brock defeated Rock to win WWE title, in 03 Triple H nailed Goldberg with the sledgehammer, in 04 Orton defeated Benoit for World Title. Those are a couple of Summerslam main events that had the heels win.
wade says it right out.. The TRUTH about why wrestling has gone down the tubes... 3:50 Giving the fans everything is boring and it gets old real quick. Upsets and making fans furious here and there keeps it fresh and exciting to see the upset get it's revenge and also keeps story lines going
The Nexus could've been the next nWo stable , WWE actually needed heel stables at that extremely PG time period , The Nexus were the hottest thing going on at that time. The way they debuted , and all of them were young and hot wrestlers ready to take over the WWE. Vince only cared about pushing Cena as the superman of the WWE , only cared about money.
Dude- Hearing Barrett HIMSELF talk about this feels like an itch that hasn't been scratched since this happened. I never heard anything of Barrett or any of the other Nexus guys' thoughts about it. That particular feud holds really special meaning to me because that's THEE actual storyline or moment that just pretty much made me realize that watching wrestling was a frustrating past time for me. I had to quit and it just made me realize that it's not a thing that is done the way I enjoyed it as a kid. And that's ok. It only means it's just something that is not for me anymore. There was also a feeling of resentment because if I care, it's because I appreciate it as a form of entertainment. But I also know there are writers involved and people who plan the entertainment. And it was clear that the only and main goal of WWE as a company was to shine the light on nothing BUT Cena. That merch just wouldn't stop selling man. I only wanted to see something new and refreshing. They built up a great feud and story, and then just wrapped up a 2 inch bow on it.
I've heard Ryback mentiin it kinda. Because he once claimed he gave The Shield the idea to rush into Vince's office like Nexus did when basically the same thing was happening to them.
If John Cena stop wearing the T-shirt I doubt very highly anybody would’ve stopped buying his merchandise. People were still buying the Undertakers T-shirt and guess what he never wore a T-shirt throughout his whole career because of his gimmick.
Love wade . But I was glad cena won . I hated the nexus back then , so I was so happy that cena won . Vince and Cena were right about having SummerSlam with a happy ending .
Cena was never gonna lose, or lose in a clean way at that time. Around this time, WWE went full stop PG and needed to please sponsors and the families who’s kids loved Cena. The money they were getting at the time would’ve never had Cena turn heel or have him lose.
yeah exactly, people tend to forget how pg 2010 was in fact some episodes almost looked TV-G tbh so there was no way they would give nexus a major win at Summerslam against super cena especially if he had to job a clean loss
@@imspiker3645 That's why when Rock came back in 2011 and challenged Cena, the adult fans saw him as a savior to save us from the torture that was WWE's reign of kid-friendly terror.
Your an idi*t the original plan was for nexus to beat cena by Vince but John cena later went to vince and changed that due to his ego and buried the nexus
Incase Wade Barrett n ne1 else hadn't realised is dat NeXus was a 2010 Dungeon Of Doom stable. They were created 2 give John Cena sumting 2 do. By 2010 Cena had already rsn tru most of da company.
Here's how you fix the merchandise problem. Wade, and the other 6 members of Nexus wear the yellow shirt N that everybody knows. And John Cena wears that same shirt, except the shirt is blue instead of yellow. Or red. Or purple. Or green. Or any other color EXCEPT yellow. And it changes on a weekly basis. The shops can sell all 7 different colors of the John Cena Nexus shirt. Now Cena's still getting his 30%, on 7 new shirts. Nexus still get their 5% split 7 ways, but they'll also see an increase in sales as people want ALL the colors. And you could do the same thing with the hats, and armbands too. You could even make the rally towels that he has, with the N logo, but in cena colors.
Or he could've just wore the Nexus shirt for the 7 weeks he was in the group and made up for screwing them over with his backstage politics at Summerslam. Dude worried about a 30% cut on merchandise sales when he's already the face of the company and had been for years at that point. Hogan levels of not putting anybody over if they were gaining red hot momentum. Amazing how many times he's actually done that.
If I can remember correctly Nexus fell apart after wade Barrett left and I guess soon after the authority took control. And I haven't watched WWE since 2010 for nearly 15 yrs
@@keandregreen5628Certain wrestlers have a say in things. It's not always Vince's call. Wrestlers like HBK, Cena, Orton, Brock, The Undertaker all had a say in the outcome of their matches.
@@keandregreen5628Don't try to delude yourself as if Cena never used the spade. It's his daily routine during that atrocious PG decade. And now coming back, his first word on LA Knight is "You're not ready."
Jesus this is ridiculous Nexus was hot yes but if we look at it who was actually decent?? Wade Barrett was not buried because after it he was still pushed as a main guy had title matches on the raw brand and smackdown brand Management dropped the ball also won multiple titles. Justin Gabriel good but mid-carder at best won Tag Team gold. Heath Slater mid-carder won tag gold. Ryback … nuff said. David Otunga thought he had something he didn’t want to be a wrestler. Michael Tarver nothing special. Darren Young they tried actually put him in a tag team were he won gold, gave him bob backlund as a manager he just wasn’t important but he’s doing ok elsewhere. Daniel Bryan nuff said.
@@lancethefilmguy9392 bro they act like they were 8 future world champions the only 2 that were main guy level was Bryan & Barrett yes they dropped the ball with him but after that he was still treated like a big deal. Ryback had opportunities he didn’t even deserve how was he buried?? He became a bigger star after nexus. Christian, Jeff Hardy, Drew McIntyre, Bobby Lashley, Cody Rhodes, all got released and became big deals when they returned why hasn’t any of them thrived outside of WWE?? And People don’t like to admit that.
@@Juggalo94 Absolutely 💯 Like I said, I think Smarks were just believing anything online because it suits their own narrative. It was very hip and cool to blame Cena because the Internet told them to do so. Nexus were basically The Alliance 2.0 from 2001. They weren't meant to be future champions. Even if they would have won at Summerslam 2010, they would have lost at Survivor Series 2010. I guarantee you that we STILL would have gotten Wade Barrett vs. John Cena in a Chairs match at TLC 2010.
This is the WWE way. Each time they mint a new superstar like Cena, Rock, etc... they need to feed 100 other wrestlers to the meat grinder. This is what makes AEW different. They give each other the space to shine so that yes, there's something like 40 guys on the top tier right now.
On which top tier? 😂😂 The same guys on the same shows, while others are sitting without a booking for months. And Jacksons & Moxley with endless title reigns, now that's an Aew way
Imagine if Sting beat Hollywood Hogan in a clean match one month after the NWO debuted in 1996. The intrigue of the NWO was that they were wrecking everyone and they seemed untouchable for 18 months. Sting vs Hogan at Starcade 1997 was WCW's biggest match and highest PPV buyrate. And the reason why Sting vs Hogan was so big because Sting was the only one able to stand against the threat. The fans saw 18 months of the NWO destroying everyone and when Sting beat Hogan it was huge. WWE could have built Nexus as a dominant force for a year and CM Punk or Daniel Bryan could gained a lot of momentum if they were the one to put and end to Barret's WWE title run and WWE could have built the Nexus wrestlers as mid card heels and Barret as a main event heel while also putting over wrestlers like CM Punk or Daniel Bryan in the main event and maybe Dolph Ziggler and others as mid card faces.
@@lancethefilmguy9392 the sources being everyone in Nexus, everyone on Team Cena, Edge, Chris Jericho, John Cena himself who went to Vince and got the match changed for him to win, pretty much everyone there says Cena is at fault and that it was a terrible idea. Even John Cena.
Wade should have been a big star in WWE but of course Vince only wanted to run with Cena. I never understood the buzz around Cena, he was never really all that good
"Summer Slam needs a happy ending" is a BS reason because that's not even true. Just the year prior, CM Punk beat Jeff Hardy (always the fan favourite) in the main event. And in 2006, Edge beat John Cena in the main event. And how many Summer Slams have happened since then that have ended with a heel standing tall? Del Rio cashed in on CM Punk in 2011, Orton cashed in on Bryan in 2013, Brock took Cena to Suplex City in 2014, Lesnar busted open Orton in 2016 so they ended the match, Brock was still a heel in the 4 way in 2017, The Fiend beat Braun Strowman in 2020, Reigns beat Cena in 2021, Reigns beat Lesnar in 2022, and Reigns beat Jey Uso this year. But the people need to go home happy, right? It's not just about making the fans happy, it has to make sense. When the good guy wins and it doesn't make sense, that's a problem. Seth Rollins vs The Fiend at Hell in a Cell for example. And even on the flip side, Cody winning at WrestleMania this year would have been a huge, feel-good moment, and it would have made sense. But nah, Roman's gotta hit 1000 days and he's only defended his title once since WrestleMania, which was 5 months ago. And when you pull stunts like that, the fans lose faith in the product. I stopped watching the TV shows in 2018 and then stopped altogether in 2021, came back when Triple H took over, Lost faith when Cody lost at WrestleMania, and stopped watching the TV shows again a few weeks ago because it's gotten so bad. Make it make sense, WWE. :)
Michael Tarver 😂 Heath with the wendy hair 😂 Skiff whatever the name was 😂 David Otunga 😂 Wade was the only credible one, everyone else were what Horace Hogan was to the NWO. The Nexus were not gonna be that big, even if John put them over; Vince would’ve still not given them (Wade Barrett) the push.
Laughing at Ryback? Wow, Ryback gave us a lot of entertaining main event. Heath's a very good seller and one of the best in the business. Michael Tarver is really good at promos and has huge potential. WWE writings screwed them all that's why you can't see the talent behind them. You're not a real wrestling fan if you see them as jokes
Believe it or not, Nexus was still a successful faction, all of them for the most part became IC, US, or tag team champions at some point and Daniel Bryan became WWE and WH champion. Barrett though should’ve been a mega star, easily WWE or WH champion, they even considered him at one point to break the Undertaker’s WM streak. Horrible timing with Injuries and letting his character get stale was what screwed him, unfortunately.
John Cena is the hulk hogan of the newer generation 😂 he definitely was behind the call of going over. To me John wasn’t that good in the ring, his promos were top which made him a draw but other than that he wasn’t that good. The real top guys were Steve and Rock because they were great on the mic and great in the ring especially with selling others moves.
steve at the peak of his career, use to just do the stomps and punches and the stunner. occasionally he would pull out a suplex. sure he was great at selling, but so is most of the WWE roster current and past lmao. in terms of in ring, cena is better in my opinion, but to satisfy u, cena and steve in ring are probably the same level. i will say rock is on the same level too, but his selling was far better than both cena and steve.
cena is good in the ring u clown u spend too much time on burying him and complain and crying about him didn't notice a lot of his best matches he had while he was full time smh !
This is what baffles me. Cena is one of the most humble human beings on this planet. If he ever becomes canonized (turned into a saint), I wouldnt be surprized. But when it comes to wrestling, the guy has such a huge ego (due to the fact that he wants to protect his character) that he can never get the right guy over when they desperately needed it. Bray, Theory, Rusev are all recent examples of guys who had momentum getting squandered because they faced Cena. Hell, Austin Theory won his match yet it wasnt credible. Prime Cena was 100x worse.
prime cena was at his best had one of his best matches and he was entertaining on the mic u crying clown u just disrespecting him here and crying about him like a hater which doesnt surprise me or anyone else in this comment section !
@@simenzelwedlamini Prime Cena literally had the crowd divided because his act got stale. The only thing that carried him was his mic skill and the fact that he was over with Children. You literally have heels like Triple H and Kurt Angle trying so hard to get Cena over yet they are the ones who got cheered for. Cena was a bad champion when people would prefer Triple H to return to his reign of Terror. By the time WWE became PG, Cena was champion during the second worst period in WWE's history because of how much the product questioned the audience's intelligence. By the time Cena stopped being champion contender, the product became better. At Least Hogan, who was 100x worse than Cena kept things fresh when his act went on a decline. But keep meat riding Cena, you cretin.
Wade Barrett Helping the Nexus Getting all the titles for a year time and then help others reclaim those titles one by one would have been the ultimate sell of them but not a single one of the Nexus is still active in WWE out of Wade Barrett on commentary. ( Bray Sadly of course )
Looked to be a certain win for Nexus? 🤔 What's he talking about? Nexus didn't stand a chance. They were rookies who were all about attacking people 7v1. When the 7v7 match was announced I was like 🤨 how is this even going to be a match?
did you say the same with the shield, because they are literally the epitome of unfair advantages in ambushes and attacks, in fact the shield was vince's second chance at properly booking a faction and he even almost screwed up with them at the hands of cena again, until they convinced him not to, I bet vince's mind drew back to when he thought the same for summerslam 2010 and finally agreed with the shield guys
Here is how they should have booked it so that both Cena and the Nexus came out strong. You have The Nexus beat everyone one after the other in a row. So you end up at 7-1 against Cena. They beat up Cena but he manages to eliminate Nexus members but he keeps taking more damage and by the time it's 2 on 1, Gabriel and Barrett, Cena is running on fumes. You have Cena barely manage to eliminate Gabriel and immediately Barrett comes in, elbow to the back of Cena's head, Winds of change, 1-2-3. Nexus look good as they beat out 6 WWE superstars, you can make falls based pn "rookie mistakes" and Cena manages to survive 6 men, but he just ran out of steam
Cena confuses me; he does all this shit for make a wish and charity but he’s also a complete jerk off at times. It just makes me think he does the Make a wish stuff for show and that’s about it.
He's a corporate creature, and I don't necessarily mean that as a criticism. He has a brand (John Cena) linked to a company (WWE or whoever is producing his movie/TV) and in his/their minds, what is best for the company is best for John Cena, and when in doubt, what is best for John Cena is best for the company. It doesn't mean his charity stuff isn't genuine or indeed that he's a horrible human being, but he's someone who has benefitted from mooring his ship to an entity and that's resulted in them both building much of the company in or around his image and legacy, and him happily dedicating himself to that company because on the whole they've made him very successful. But at the same time it does mean that he's always going to be looking out for the interests of John Cena and the WWE in the event that there's a conflict or a decision to be made, whether that's burying the Nexus so he can keep being big match John, or apologising for daring to suggest Taiwan is a separate entity to China, or indeed being perfectly happy to use his own engagement to whichever Bella it was on national TV for the sake of pushing ratings when any fool could see that it wasn't a relationship which was exactly stable or healthy.
nah u cant rly fake the make a wish stuff because john doesn't seem like that kind of person, but yeah u never know. also no one is perfect, john definitely has his faults and its obvious that he has tried to make it up with to the hardcore wwe fans by putting over many superstars since and adding stuff to his moveset back in 2011-2017ish.
Looking out for your own self interest in an industry that's notoriously filled with snakes and people fighting to get to your spot does not make you a "jerk off".
Ppl that think Cena buried Nexus need to look at that group. Only one of those guys was a star and it took a gimmick change bc no one really cared after the Nexus dissolved. How is that Cena's fault?
@lancethefilmguy9392 Austin never put over people but doesn't get crap so apparently in Smarks minds he has to lose every match/he's in so it doesn't seem he's burying people him logically winning is burying people
Soooo...based on Wade's own words, it was Vince's call, and his rationale was that SummerSlam needed to have a a happy ending. Where does that become Cena's fault?
@AD-ur1fk Why is it that logic only applies to wrestlers that people don't like? Was it _Bret Hart's_ fault when, for the 6 years between winning the IC title and Montreal, he only lost cleanly to members of his family? Or, was that _Vince's_ decision? If that was Vince's call, and his alone, why would this call be any different?
@@BardineerBecause they are Smarks. They aren't themselves unless there is somebody to hate on. They are the Conspiracy Theorists among wrestling fans.
Even if they lost the summerslam match the main cause of their failure was the terrible booking. Even after they lost cena made them look like a bunch of geeks. After he was “fired” he kept attacking them and basically burying them. Like you’re telling me this one guy can constantly beat 6 guys. And then in the end he literally buried Barrett under a pile of chairs. Cena was booked way too strong and it destroyed their momentum and that was as high in the card as most of them ever went. As far as the merchandise thing goes cena was only in the nexus for 7 weeks. You’re seriously that greedy that you can’t share profits for a month and a half so you can help elevate these guys who you literally stopped their momentum at summerslam?
To be fair about the merchandising thing, there's another aspect to the profits that you neglected. Wade said it himself that if he had a 5% cut in his contract, he'd get 5% and WWE would get the rest. That means if John Cena, possibly their biggest merch mover since Austin, was taking a smaller cut, THEY would be taking a smaller cut, and they couldn't have that. Could Cena have put his foot down and told the brass he was going to commit to the storyline and wear the 'N' shirt to help elevate the Nexus? Sure. However, let's not just say it only came down to Cena's greed. There were other pockets getting lined and other people who needed to get paid.
John cena later admitted in a interview he f**ked up by not putting nexus over at summerslam so YOUR WRONG cena had huge backstage pull and at anytime could have chosen to win or lose anymatch in his prime
You know, i aint no john cena fanboy and i agree, his part in the story did hurt nexus. But atleast he held restraint cuz L.W.O got written a happy ending then rey not content to feud and be forced into no more....recreates L.W.O. Atleast John Cena aint trying to hurt beyond what was neccessary and leaves nexus be. Rey recreates L.W.O. and degenerates it much further.
@@intergalacticglobalistslayer Wade Barrett himself was prone to injury, we all know how Ryback turned out, everyone else besides Daniel Bryan and Bray Wyatt? Meh..
I understand why people were upset but let’s be honest the only one with talent to be a star from the Nexus was Wade. He was in line for many main event pushes but the guy couldn’t stay healthy. Ryback was awful, Gabriel was cool but had 0 charisma, Heath’s ceiling was the midcard, don’t tell me y’all cared about Otunga, and I don’t even get what Tarver was supposed to be
I disagree with this jabroni. I was there that night at summerslam. The entire crowd was pro cena, and there were alot of young people like myself. We were all rooting for cena
That wasn't what he was talking about, though. Cena losing wouldn't have done any damage to his resume and popularity, and Nexus winning would have been huge in terms of putting them over as monster heels, and that the crowd was pro Cena would have only increased that impact. On the other hand, Cena winning didn't do anything positive to him (because he just didn't need that win), and it damaged Nexus so hard that they never really recovered from that. Now I don't think that was Cena's doing because if Vince had seen huge potential in those guys, he wouldn't have cared about what Cena wanted. Same guy that didn't care about Taker when he destroyed his streak by giving the win to the one wrestler who didn't need it in any way. I don't even necessarily think Vince was lying about the happy ending thing, because that's exactly like all the other kinds of stupid ideas that he went with and made WWE into such a huge pile of steaming mess before HHH took over creative.
@@Eluarelon That streak ended in 2014, Plus taker wanted lesnar to go over at WM30, Brock Lesnar is the legit factor of Pro Wrestling, I couldn't have been more happy.
BLAH BLAH BLAH Everything is John Cena's fault. BLAH BLAH BLAH Nexus would have been bigger than The NWO BLAH BLAH BLAH. We've heard it all before from people who failed miserably to get over and need someone to blame. It was John Cena's fault Alex Ryley fizzled out. It was John Cena's fault Ryback was never WWE champion. Just add Nexus to the list.
Alex Riley claims backstage politics and intentional career sabotage, so it's very different. Ryback lost his momentum when he lost to CM Punk because Cena had been injured. The Nexus completely lost all credibility directly due to Cena's actions both on and off screen. Don't get me wrong I love Cena but he completely killed this faction. And they were already very over (as was Ryback), it just didn't last, there's a big difference.
Except before Summerslam, the Nexus was always depicted as a heel faction that beat up people 7 vs 1 because they couldn't win fairly. They never stood a chance.
The Nexus was a unified group with a common goal. Team WWE was a group of seven guys just thrown together with overblown egos. The buildup to the match had Jericho and Edge fighting with each other, and there may have been other infighting, I can't recall. During the match, WWE team refuses to help each other out and get in each other's way, while Nexus systemically keep each other fresh and eliminate the opposition until they get their usual numbers advantage, then they dominate as per usual. Easy booking that had no good reason to not happen.
lmao nooooo we didn't know that, which is the POINT of what Wade Barrett is saying in why his team needed to go over, to prove everyone wrong, and to show how strong they were
The main problem is that they were booking the Nexus to be a serious force, and they were barely getting started when SummerSlam began. The Nexus still needed to get a marquee win to establish themselves, and building them up just to lose destroyed all the momentum they quickly gained.
Did John Cena bury The Nexus? Let us know in the comments below!
Vince buried them. John Cena was his tool
Back then 10-and-a-half year old me rejoiced at Cena's victory. Right now I wish he lost
Didn't Wade talked about this before?
No
Nope, he just happened to be in the spot to do it, so if anyone was in the spot like Cena to this some people would say that person 'buried' then 😂
"Summerslam needs a happy ending"
2011: Del Rio cashes in on Punk
2012: Brock beats Triple H
2013: Orton Cashes in on Bryan
2014: Brock Squashes Cena
Vince really changed his energy after that real fast.
I mean that’s been a problem since that terrible ending at Mani when Hogan squashed Yokozuna after he won the title off of Bret
Hogan literally talked Vince into the idea that “they” NEEDED to send the fans home happy so booked himself to win back the title from the monster heel
…and then proceeded to sit out Summerslam or doing anything at all until Vince had enough and had him revenge squashed by Yokozuna and released
1997: Heel Bret Hart beats Taker
2002: Brock beats The Rock
2003: Triple H wins Elimination Chamber
2006: Edge beats Cena
2023: Roman beats Jey lol
And his energy before that was also.....2009: heel punk beats hardy
@@PlusUltraAdrian let's just agree that most of the time, SummerSlam is practically WrestleMania for heels; where most heels gets their happy ending before another closure at WrestleMania lol
Edge said this was all on Cena a few years ago. Even Cena has apologized for it since
heard that he decided to lose next summerslam matches equal to number of every guy in nexus
@@neon0025no you didn't. You're literally making that up.
@@shadycnetworkyou’re fun at parties. It’s clearly a jab at Cena’s well documented atrocious record at that PPV
@@MrJCV1605 me being fun at parties has nothing to do with him being annoying and unfunny. People are really starting to over use that fun at parties jab.
No Edge didn't say that 😂
Vince told him: "I'm afraid I have some bad news for you, Wade."
That's probably where Wade Barrett got the idea 😂
Ha. I was picturing Arn saying it.
Lol
Vince knew nexxus was trash good call
Borth of bad news barret
This was the last chance of possibly getting a Cena heel turn when he joined Nexus. They buried the crap out of Nexus
Stop using wrestling terms if you don't know what they mean.
@@deckzone3000. Instead of insulting. Teach. Explain what he said wrong and we can all chat about it and get along.
and everything worked out perfectly
Nah Cena could've joined the Authority during the title vs title match with orton
@@deckzone3000 👍
I always got the feeling Cena didn’t want to put nexus over. Everyone whose spoken about it from nexus themselves to guys on team cena like Edge & Jericho wanted them to go over but it did feel like Cena didn’t like the group winning. Him repeating what Vince said feels like an admission
You are aware that Jericho said it was Vince McMahon right?
@@lancethefilmguy9392 & I don’t believe Jericho’s explanation either
@@proskeptical789 So did Jericho lied to himself? 🤔
U think Cena would've agreed to lose to Wade at HIAC & be the Nexus's bitch for nearly 2 months? It was entirely a Vince call & Cena was the face of the company at the time.
@@lancethefilmguy9392Cena doesn’t care about anyone else in the company. he was a greedy man only trying to further his own fame and wealth (like most men would do, i might add)
Even Edge and Jericho knew it was bullshit and called Cena out on that.
Jericho, the guy who books some of the stupidest ideas ever in AEW like that wild thing match.
@@michaelvincent7115yes Jericho one of the greatest of all time. And edge
Even though it was a Vince called?
@@lancethefilmguy9392because cena went to vince and changed his mind? No point trying to argue against peoples word of whom were actually there and publicly stated it themself like Jericho
@@bigstan434 And Jericho said that it was Vince McMahon in his 3rd book.
Even if the Nexus defeated Team Cena at SummerSlam that year, you know Vince would have found a way to screw it up later on.
Well said that makes me feel better. They would have immediately lost in a rematch the ppv after, or every member of the faction would lose 1 on 1 matches the RAW after Summerslam
Most likely, they would have lost at Survivor Series 2010 and be disbanded the following night on Raw. Similar to what happened to the Alliance back in 2001.
they should have had nexus win in summerslam then have a rematch all the way down to wrestlemania 27, and lose and get disbanded, this what slater came up with, and I like it
It's what vince does. It's the only thing vince has ever done properly. He almost screwed up Stone Cold and The Rock if left to his own devices
@@dn22pkkdd476someone gets it
Always remember unless under pressure, Vince will generally do his own thing with the only interference being making sure it “fits” the casual and public appeal for being PG and being Publicly Traded business (those being everything he does post Ruthless Aggression Era
Further examples:
It took the WHOLE McMahon family to get him to drop his desire for an incest angle between either him and Steph or Shane and Steph, mind you this was the Attitude Era so it was just his family instead of those previously mentioned
More recent one is Moxley having to vehemently state to never do a promo Vince wanted him to do during his final run as Dean because it was likely to get WWE MASSIVE heat with sponsors and the like
His booking regarding Trips vs Booker and then MUCH later Heel Daniel vs Kofi which no matter WHAT they try to say came off COMPLETELY racist
And as you stated Vince’s characters aren’t even that good longterm, even short term
Austin came up with Stone Cold post WCW and during his brief time in ECW, Vince gave us The Ringmaster
The Rock was from Dwayne’s legit issues with the fans and support from Farooq and The Nation of Domination, Vince created the greatly fan hated Maivia
Even Hogan developed his skills in the ring and mic through his time in NJPW and AWA, Vince just provided a bigger platform and had him use a much “stereotypical style”
It was a great storyline. I hated the Nexus but now I have such nostalgia for them and love Barrett
True that. I was only 10 at the time, but it was so cool to watch them
I still own my Nexus shirt and armband, they're packed away in the closet.
Arn Anderson said, “Wade, I’m afraid I’ve got some bad news…”
"It is SummerSlam, we need to send the fans home happy"
SummerSlam 2009 a year before:
Heel Randy Orton is beating the babyface John Cena and the heel CM Punk is beating babyface Jeff Hardy in the double main event. 🤷♂
Remember taker came out to close the show thou
Vince in 2010: "This is Summerslam and it needs a happy ending"
1993: *People celebrate a count out victory as if it were a title change*
1995: *Ratings Killer puts fans to sleep in the WORST SS Main Event of all time*
2003: *Reign of Terror buries another former WCW top star, despite Trips having a legit injury*
Summerslam Endings after 2010...
2011: *Notable Prick cashes in on Summer of Punk*
2013: *Daniel Bryan coronation ruined by cash-in*
2016: *Bork Laser murders Viper on Live Television*
....Yeah, happy ending my ass.
2014 summerslam needs a happy ending brock lesnar completely destroys super cena
@@bigdonald123 Just proves it even more. I only used 3 examples either side of 2010, but yeah, there's plenty more examples
2023: Tribal Queef beats Main Event Superkicker 1
@@FadeIn2Obscurity great middle schooler 'look at the word i just discovered on south park' humor right there
Exactly. It was all politics. Vince was just trying to cover Cenas hide because he wanted to continue being "Super Cena" and not do jobs.
The misfortune of Nexus happening in 2010, at the peak of kid-friendly WWE. Ever since Rock returned in 2011, Punk's pipebomb happened the same year, Brock Lesnar returned the next year, Bray Wyatt happened the year after that, and WWE slowly started getting less kid-friendly. But in 2010 it was almost brutal to watch.
I take 2010 over 2021 any day my friend
@@lancethefilmguy9392 Can't disagree with you because I was still a regular fan in 2010 and I have no idea what's been happening in the 2020's.
2011 wasn't much better either tbh
@@head6856 It wasn't, but it was better than 2010.
2009 and 2010 were the worst years of the PG era!
I'll forever be baffled how WWE didn't go with the story that I was 100% sure they were going with. Like, this wasn't even fantasy booking. I was genuinely convinced that this was where they were going and that I'd caught the hints and cracked the code. It was just so perfectly, specifically set up.
When Cena was forced to join Nexus, he initially responded by beating up Nexus members and saying that he was gonna destroy them from the inside or something. Didn't really make sense, but whatever. But then the Anonymous Raw General Manager(aka the stupid laptop read by Cole) stated that being part of the Nexus meant that he had to follow the orders of their leader, and as the Nexus recognized Wade Barrett as the leader, Cena would be forced to obey him. Or be fired? Or something.
Anyway, I thought this was a GIANT foreshadowing of an awesome storyline. The laptop was so specific. Cena had to follow Barrett because the Nexus RECOGNIZED him as their leader! So I was so sure that we were getting a storyline where Cena would go full on dark, evil Cena, Nexus shirt and all, but then in being evil Super Cena and bringing endless success to the Nexus, the Nexus members would begin to follow HIM and recognize Cena as their actual leader.
Then once Cena officially became the leader of the Nexus(via one-on-one or a civil war Survivor Series match or something), boom swerve, turns out it was all a giant ruse by Cena to no longer have to answer to anyone and to also have the power to disband and thereby destroy the Nexus from the inside, just like he always wanted.
Could have also led to further storylines where certain faces(like face Orton, etc) were none too happy about all the Nexus shenanigans Cena had been imposing on them, and weren't about to just forgive him for what he'd done.
But, instead, we got the typical Cena Wins LOL story we'd gotten endless times by that point(and would again for a while), and I pretty much threw my hands up and tapped out of wrestling until CM Punk's big singles push.
This is facts!! Man somebody give this guy a job, and pen 🖊️ he knows what’s up, and yk what I was thinking about the shirt stuff, he could’ve just had a
nexus/cena shirt made .. literally more profit to be made & everybody wins.
Overly convoluted nonsense
Ok, but why would your fantasy booking be any better? That's just more "Cena wins LOL" nonsense in which The Nexus would still be buried by Super Cena, only this time, Heel Super Cena.
@@TheAnonymousIndividualit worked for Roman
This was prime SUPER CENA burying all lol 2005-2015
John Cena buried Nexus deeper than CM Punk buried his AEW career
Didn’t you pay attention? This was all Vince
@@RuanAntunes7 I am just joking. We all know that John Cena just doing what Vince McMahon saying to him. However many people believe that even back in a day John Cena have strong influence on creative power to change the ending decision of that SummerSlam match. But he for some reason decided not helping Nexus
@Qin_Lee Can people please choose. Is Vince a hard headed a*sh*le that when he gets an opinion of someone nomatter what he buries them? Or is he a wishy washy flake that everyone scares into doing what they want? Gotta pick one,he can't be both.
@@RuanAntunes7It is Vince's fault we never got over! It is John Cena's fault we got over! It is the hot dog guy's fault we never got over! The hotdogs guy buried us!
Imma be real, Nexus wasn’t gonna make it far considering only two of the members became popular.
Vince: "its summerslam we have to send the fans home happy"
Also Vince the year before this at summerslam: heel cm punk beats jeff hardy
Also Vince the year after the nexus storyline: heel del rio cashes in
Also Vince the year after that heel lesnar defeats hhh
Also Vince the year after that Orton and Hhh turn heel on bryan
Also Vince the year after that heel lesnar squashes cena.....
As you can see almost every summerslam from that period had heels win in main event.
Andre and Ted Diabase beat the Mega Powers at a SummerSlam and Macho Man turned Heel right after and attacked Hogan
To be fair they had Undertaker return to attack Punk in 2010 so that at least had a happy send-off
I was in attendance at SummerSlam 2010. On one hand, that main event was the worst, stupidest booked ending I've seen in person. On the other hand, the fact that it has (understandably) become one of the most notorious endings in WWE history, and I was there in person, gives it a special place in my heart. It's a bad match, but it's MY bad match!
The misfortune of the Nexus happened in 2010 because of the peak of kid-friendly, aka PG Era or Universe Era while you was attendance in person at Summerslam 2010.
I was at sumemrslam 05 when Shawn Michaels over sold everything against hogan. I honestly thought it was awesome in person. It wasn’t until years later I learned that people hated it lol
You guys know that the nexus were actually buried at TLC 2010 when Cena literally buried Barrett with chairs and took out all members easily
Wade Barrett is so underrated ! The man deserves so much more.
Cena basically helped to kill the career of Wade Barrett. He should have been a top star, but Cena couldn't stop being Hogan for a minute to do business.
Blame should be 200% on Vince tho.
I will never understand why he let his top employees have so much say so when it effected the future of the company? And he just saw what happened with Triple H. Granted Cena sold more, but he could get injured.
Then what's even more funny is how Vince reacted to Austin the person who saved the company wanting to put Lesner over the right way.
Curious why Austin didn't get as much say so as Hunter Cena and Hogan
@@jetla22who says Austin didn't?? He's the reason HHH had to wait an extra year to win his first World Title. You think Vince LITERALLY goes along with every single thing a top star says?? EVERYBODY has been told NO at one point. Even Cena, Hogan and HHH.
@@jetla22let's be real triple h is the reason he buried WWE stars we all know Austin is better worker
@@jetla22 Austin had plenty of say. He refused to put over HHH, he refused to work with Billy Gunn, Marc Mero and Jeff Jarrett then he refused to lose to Brock on TV.
@@crews-lj3phAustin was mot a better worker. Austin had horrible ring work and he admitted it
WWE could have a huge and hot heel faction that can build to the big payoff. they drop the balls and only get a meh villain instead.
A huge and hot heel faction with a bunch of no names? No. It worked for nwo because they were established characters. Casual viewers never bought into the the nxt guys. They simply weren't fun to watch.
@scourgemeltface but a group of very dominant, good performing younger superstars coming in and toppling the Cena dynasty wouldn't have made at least 1 or 2 new stars from that group? Not everything has to be the NWO
Barret could have been great, Danielson should never have been fired and could have benefitted even more from this and a few of the other guys could have had significantly better careers than they did
Also Ryback was there 😂
Why lol, they'd still be a team full of jobbers
@@scourgemeltfacethey had potential and were young and talented but cena buried them
Yes Nexus needed that momentum with a win at Summerslam 2010. But sources says that Vince and Cena needed a win to send the crowd mainly kids happy. Such that wasnt necessary for Cena to win and its unfortunate, and Edge and Jericho told him its a bad decision. Looking back, its one of the bad decisions in WWE.
Vince lied to wade the following years at summerslam the heel won the main event 😅
One of the worst decisions in WWE history.
Agreed
Fully agree
Totally
*Best
Debatable
The most anoying part is. They could even book him strong in a loss.
Hell even let him be in a 3v1. Eat a chairshiot for a DQ. Then somehow beat gabriel. And then eat the pin to wade. He would look strong as hell and the Nexus still go over since they won 7v7 AND Barrett could go on and on about how he pinned cena.
But no he had to eat a DDT on the exposed floor and win 2v1 😂
“This doesn’t work for me, brother.” - John Cena, Probably
Back then I wanted the good guys to win and was happy that they did. Older me, now realised the the bad guys should have gone over.
I was a kid during this time and i wanted nexus to win also got tired of cens always winning in 2007 and stopped watching completely along with all my friends until 2012
@@bigdonald123 You were a smart kid, then.
Cena made a bad call at Summerslam but it was still salvageable, over the next couple of months he got beaten and humbled by the Nexus regularly. Should have carried the feud with Barrett over to at least WrestleMania.
They would've had to go for an entire year since Summerslam is only a couple months after Wrestlemania. There's no way they ever would've locked Cena into a feud with a bunch of mid carders for that long, nor should they have.
I always thought Wade Barrett was a badass heel character that WWE never allowed him to get over!
No sh*t sherlock cena buried wade 6 feet under the ground
3 years later the same thing almost happened to The Shield at Elimination Chamber, but they fought back and proved Vince wrong
The thing I don't understand about the merch thing is that you could've had it just be a one time thing where Cena came out in full nexus attire. He could've ripped it off in frustration and right before he takes off the armband, Wade could've stopped him and it turns into a story thing where he has to rep the armband to show his loyal fans and supporters that underneath all those flashy colors; He belongs to Nexus.
That isn't really how merchandising works. Especially when it comes to a fandom-based good. Cena supporters wouldn't gravitate to something Cena himself was actively against. No, it's not because they bought into kayfabe, but rather, the shirt itself was counterintuitive to what they would want.
Another thing that Wade did not mention is the fact that Nexus were a thing during the time he debuted the purple shirt, and prior to his joining them. Cena joining Nexus was not in the initial plans from what I could see. Otherwise, certain tweaks in the order of events would have been implemented.
Merchandising also needs repeated exposure for situations like these. That's what Barrett himself was explaining when he mentioned the basic design.
Cena regardless would still be selling his gayass t shirts ay the wwe shop even if wearing a nexus shirt 😅
Wade always had great genuine promos. Its a shame WWE didn't push him as a champion
It doesn’t matter Vince would’ve did something wild to mess everything up anyways, He always does even if Nexus won they still lost. Cena is super loyal to WWE that’s why he’s that way he’s said it time and time again.
True but he's also picky sometimes on who he puts over He wants them to do good If they beat em He doesn't lose to people who don't have any potential and tbh cena did the right thing ofc Vince woulda messed things up
They deserved better as talent we deserved better as fans
Wish this guy could still go in the ring. He was an awesome wrestler. Bareknuckles guy was a great thing. Then when they formed that international group with him and Shemus and Alberto Del Rio and I think there was the younger version of Drew McIntyre. But Barrett was cool.
My GF at the time saw the Nexus stuff having never watched wrestling before and got hooked. She thought the fact that they were 7 geeks that couldn't get anything accomplished without 6 other guys beating everyone up for them was so enraging. And then they started beating up the older guys and she HATED them. Hated them. She'd yell over their promos that they weren't men. She'd ask me how they were allowed to get away with cheating like this Instead of just being fired, but then clarify she meant *after* they got their asses kicked first.
She watched Summerslam and she was so happy that Nexus got their shit kicked in, and then never cared about them again.
She liked a few guys like Edge and Orton after having watched that summer, so for the next year or two, she'd keep up what they were doing, but up to Summerslam she was watching every minute of every show, the good guy won, she cheered, and was done.
They made a new casual fan for a few years, but they were in the process of making a pretty hardcore one if they didn't tell her "okay that story's over now, here's another one." She was in for that story, they gave her the payoff, she said "this has been fun, I'll call you" to the show as a whole.
"Nexus got their shit kicked in" is the wrong theme for what happened at summerslam, they were pretty close to winning, botched ending
@theonlygoodonehere2259 just because they eliminated everyone else on the team, doesn't mean they didn't spend the match getting their shit kicked in. They spent the match on the run from the guys who were presented as way above them.
Almost the entire WWE side lost due to in-fighting and a DQ
@@realrobrose thats their fault, they have much more experience than nexus, and it was still even, one of the dq's helped wwe roster steal 1 from the nexus
@theonlygoodonehere2259 now you're arguing tiny semantics. The point is that she experienced the match as them getting their shit kicked in and was done.
You can go see a movie where the good guy destroys the bad guy and decide "I don't ever need to see sequels to this, that was enough" and then the person next to you to explain away all the reasons why really all the ways the bad guy lost was actually not that definitive, but if you have to do that, you're just the one who's doing the job the movie was supposed to do, and you're not gonna talk a person into changing their emotional experience of what just happened by explaining all these little things.
Like, she wasn't gonna watch them all get their comeuppance and then get talked into how they didn't really. They did. She saw it, she cheered she moved on. There was no "but no no really the bad guys are still bad" when you just saw them get wedgies and shoved in lockers and laughed at and did nothing about it.
Damn bro. Literally the same situation with the woman I was with at the time. She seen the start of the Nexus angle and was hooked. Plus she knew Otunga as Punk from when he was on I Love NY. She def hated them Nikkas. Except Heath Slater who she had a insane crush on.
What does The Nexus and Damien Sandow have in common? Both of them were buried due to horrendous and poor booking and with the burying power John Cena had. 😅
I don't think Sandow was Cena's input. Rather Vince thinking he made the wrong choice putting the case on Sandow
Blaming cena for Vince’s decision is moronic
@@keandregreen5628 thinking Cena didnt have any major influence and part of the decision making who he puts over and doesnt put over is moronic.
@@Old-Boy_BEbopthinking Cena was the reason nexus lost is moronic
@@Old-Boy_BEbop thinking cenas “influence” overrides the owner is moronic. Cena and stone cold told vince to push Cesaro didn’t happen, cena told vince to push breezango didn’t happen, cena tried to get cryme Tyme a push didn’t happen,
To be fair. I do get the decision to make the nexus lose in terms of business. Because as a child I absolutely hated the nexus and idolized Cena. A lot of us who were kids around that time did. And I know for a fact that a lot of us (who were children at the time) would have been LIVID had the nexus won. So I get wanting to give it a “happy ending” because let’s not forget, they were the supposed bad guys. However my only issue is the trajectory of Wade’s career AFTER the loss. I really felt like he was world champ material and they dropped the ball on him.
Edit: you can still have someone lose but still have their career go in the proper trajectory. So it’s not entirely on Cena. Vince is the one who dropped the ball on Wade overall
I don't know if Nexus Wade Barrett was ready for a world title. But his 2012 version did deserve it. Wade Barrett not being a world champion once should not be legal. The guy was too good at his time.
IN 02, Brock defeated Rock to win WWE title, in 03 Triple H nailed Goldberg with the sledgehammer, in 04 Orton defeated Benoit for World Title. Those are a couple of Summerslam main events that had the heels win.
wade says it right out.. The TRUTH about why wrestling has gone down the tubes... 3:50 Giving the fans everything is boring and it gets old real quick. Upsets and making fans furious here and there keeps it fresh and exciting to see the upset get it's revenge and also keeps story lines going
The Nexus could've been the next nWo stable , WWE actually needed heel stables at that extremely PG time period , The Nexus were the hottest thing going on at that time. The way they debuted , and all of them were young and hot wrestlers ready to take over the WWE. Vince only cared about pushing Cena as the superman of the WWE , only cared about money.
Yeah actually the nexus could have been bigger and better than NWO
Dude- Hearing Barrett HIMSELF talk about this feels like an itch that hasn't been scratched since this happened. I never heard anything of Barrett or any of the other Nexus guys' thoughts about it. That particular feud holds really special meaning to me because that's THEE actual storyline or moment that just pretty much made me realize that watching wrestling was a frustrating past time for me. I had to quit and it just made me realize that it's not a thing that is done the way I enjoyed it as a kid. And that's ok. It only means it's just something that is not for me anymore.
There was also a feeling of resentment because if I care, it's because I appreciate it as a form of entertainment. But I also know there are writers involved and people who plan the entertainment. And it was clear that the only and main goal of WWE as a company was to shine the light on nothing BUT Cena. That merch just wouldn't stop selling man. I only wanted to see something new and refreshing. They built up a great feud and story, and then just wrapped up a 2 inch bow on it.
I've heard Ryback mentiin it kinda. Because he once claimed he gave The Shield the idea to rush into Vince's office like Nexus did when basically the same thing was happening to them.
If John Cena stop wearing the T-shirt I doubt very highly anybody would’ve stopped buying his merchandise. People were still buying the Undertakers T-shirt and guess what he never wore a T-shirt throughout his whole career because of his gimmick.
Exactly super cena just didnt want to wear is all which also ruined the storyline
Love wade . But I was glad cena won . I hated the nexus back then , so I was so happy that cena won . Vince and Cena were right about having SummerSlam with a happy ending .
What a well spoken and intelligent dude. I love hearing him talk and absolutely loved watching him wrestle.
Cena was never gonna lose, or lose in a clean way at that time.
Around this time, WWE went full stop PG and needed to please sponsors and the families who’s kids loved Cena.
The money they were getting at the time would’ve never had Cena turn heel or have him lose.
The plan was for nexus to win. cena went to vince and changed that because he thought he knew best.
yeah exactly, people tend to forget how pg 2010 was in fact some episodes almost looked TV-G tbh so there was no way they would give nexus a major win at Summerslam against super cena especially if he had to job a clean loss
@@imspiker3645 That's why when Rock came back in 2011 and challenged Cena, the adult fans saw him as a savior to save us from the torture that was WWE's reign of kid-friendly terror.
Your an idi*t the original plan was for nexus to beat cena by Vince but John cena later went to vince and changed that due to his ego and buried the nexus
@@kbsolomaster5000Actually this has been DEBUNKED by Jericho
Incase Wade Barrett n ne1 else hadn't realised is dat NeXus was a 2010 Dungeon Of Doom stable. They were created 2 give John Cena sumting 2 do. By 2010 Cena had already rsn tru most of da company.
Here's how you fix the merchandise problem. Wade, and the other 6 members of Nexus wear the yellow shirt N that everybody knows. And John Cena wears that same shirt, except the shirt is blue instead of yellow. Or red. Or purple. Or green. Or any other color EXCEPT yellow. And it changes on a weekly basis. The shops can sell all 7 different colors of the John Cena Nexus shirt. Now Cena's still getting his 30%, on 7 new shirts. Nexus still get their 5% split 7 ways, but they'll also see an increase in sales as people want ALL the colors. And you could do the same thing with the hats, and armbands too. You could even make the rally towels that he has, with the N logo, but in cena colors.
Or he could've just wore the Nexus shirt for the 7 weeks he was in the group and made up for screwing them over with his backstage politics at Summerslam. Dude worried about a 30% cut on merchandise sales when he's already the face of the company and had been for years at that point. Hogan levels of not putting anybody over if they were gaining red hot momentum. Amazing how many times he's actually done that.
People still weren't going to buy Nexus merch.
@@SpaghettiYOLOKingTTVexactly bro you get it 💯
At least wade went on to have a good career. 5 time ic champion, king of the ring, and he got over as a heel.
“SummerSlam needs to have a happy ending”
Meanwhile Edge beat John Cena in the main event of SummerSlam 2006, by using brass knuckles..
Edge was an OverRated superstar.
@@Romchikthelemonhow
@@Romchikthelemon You are wrong he is Rated R.
and you're a mark@@aliharis4266
People like edge
If I can remember correctly Nexus fell apart after wade Barrett left and I guess soon after the authority took control. And I haven't watched WWE since 2010 for nearly 15 yrs
It wasn’t a Vince call, everyone damn well knows it was cena pulling his stroke aka the hogan card and he made that call
Who owns the company Vince or cena? Because last time I checked Vince had the final say so of everything
Cena told you when he was feuding with miz before mania one year. If he was pulling the strings he would wrestle the Undertaker instead
@@keandregreen5628Certain wrestlers have a say in things. It's not always Vince's call. Wrestlers like HBK, Cena, Orton, Brock, The Undertaker all had a say in the outcome of their matches.
@@keandregreen5628Don't try to delude yourself as if Cena never used the spade. It's his daily routine during that atrocious PG decade. And now coming back, his first word on LA Knight is "You're not ready."
@keandregreen5628 john cena has creative pull always has the original plan was for nexus to beat cena and cenas ego went to go change that with Vince
I could listen to Wade talk all day. Man has a commanding presence physically and vocally.
Jesus this is ridiculous Nexus was hot yes but if we look at it who was actually decent?? Wade Barrett was not buried because after it he was still pushed as a main guy had title matches on the raw brand and smackdown brand Management dropped the ball also won multiple titles.
Justin Gabriel good but mid-carder at best won Tag Team gold.
Heath Slater mid-carder won tag gold.
Ryback … nuff said.
David Otunga thought he had something he didn’t want to be a wrestler.
Michael Tarver nothing special.
Darren Young they tried actually put him in a tag team were he won gold, gave him bob backlund as a manager he just wasn’t important but he’s doing ok elsewhere.
Daniel Bryan nuff said.
This. Glad I ain't the only one who notices that. The Smarks have worked themselves into a shoot as usual
@@lancethefilmguy9392 bro they act like they were 8 future world champions the only 2 that were main guy level was Bryan & Barrett yes they dropped the ball with him but after that he was still treated like a big deal. Ryback had opportunities he didn’t even deserve how was he buried?? He became a bigger star after nexus. Christian, Jeff Hardy, Drew McIntyre, Bobby Lashley, Cody Rhodes, all got released and became big deals when they returned why hasn’t any of them thrived outside of WWE?? And People don’t like to admit that.
@@Juggalo94 Absolutely 💯
Like I said, I think Smarks were just believing anything online because it suits their own narrative. It was very hip and cool to blame Cena because the Internet told them to do so. Nexus were basically The Alliance 2.0 from 2001. They weren't meant to be future champions. Even if they would have won at Summerslam 2010, they would have lost at Survivor Series 2010.
I guarantee you that we STILL would have gotten Wade Barrett vs. John Cena in a Chairs match at TLC 2010.
This is the WWE way. Each time they mint a new superstar like Cena, Rock, etc... they need to feed 100 other wrestlers to the meat grinder.
This is what makes AEW different. They give each other the space to shine so that yes, there's something like 40 guys on the top tier right now.
On which top tier? 😂😂 The same guys on the same shows, while others are sitting without a booking for months. And Jacksons & Moxley with endless title reigns, now that's an Aew way
Vince: This is SummerSlam and it needs to have a happy ending
Me: The Cena fans and including myself when I was 7 was extremely happy 😂😂😂😂😂
Only 7? Jesus!
Imagine if Sting beat Hollywood Hogan in a clean match one month after the NWO debuted in 1996.
The intrigue of the NWO was that they were wrecking everyone and they seemed untouchable for 18 months. Sting vs Hogan at Starcade 1997 was WCW's biggest match and highest PPV buyrate. And the reason why Sting vs Hogan was so big because Sting was the only one able to stand against the threat. The fans saw 18 months of the NWO destroying everyone and when Sting beat Hogan it was huge.
WWE could have built Nexus as a dominant force for a year and CM Punk or Daniel Bryan could gained a lot of momentum if they were the one to put and end to Barret's WWE title run and WWE could have built the Nexus wrestlers as mid card heels and Barret as a main event heel while also putting over wrestlers like CM Punk or Daniel Bryan in the main event and maybe Dolph Ziggler and others as mid card faces.
The Nexus was buried due to backstage politics and terrible booking.
Vince mchanon originally planned nexus to go over cena but cena went to vince to have that changed and to bury nexus
Source? TRUST ME BRO 🤣
@@lancethefilmguy9392 the sources being everyone in Nexus, everyone on Team Cena, Edge, Chris Jericho, John Cena himself who went to Vince and got the match changed for him to win, pretty much everyone there says Cena is at fault and that it was a terrible idea. Even John Cena.
@@erikthered9670 You know Jericho said it was Vince McMahon right? His 3rd book provides context
@@lancethefilmguy9392 Better than what you could possibly offer. Nothing.
Wade should have been a big star in WWE but of course Vince only wanted to run with Cena. I never understood the buzz around Cena, he was never really all that good
Just goes to show vince made a lot of wrong decisions within the modern era of wrestling.
"Summer Slam needs a happy ending" is a BS reason because that's not even true. Just the year prior, CM Punk beat Jeff Hardy (always the fan favourite) in the main event. And in 2006, Edge beat John Cena in the main event. And how many Summer Slams have happened since then that have ended with a heel standing tall? Del Rio cashed in on CM Punk in 2011, Orton cashed in on Bryan in 2013, Brock took Cena to Suplex City in 2014, Lesnar busted open Orton in 2016 so they ended the match, Brock was still a heel in the 4 way in 2017, The Fiend beat Braun Strowman in 2020, Reigns beat Cena in 2021, Reigns beat Lesnar in 2022, and Reigns beat Jey Uso this year.
But the people need to go home happy, right?
It's not just about making the fans happy, it has to make sense. When the good guy wins and it doesn't make sense, that's a problem. Seth Rollins vs The Fiend at Hell in a Cell for example. And even on the flip side, Cody winning at WrestleMania this year would have been a huge, feel-good moment, and it would have made sense. But nah, Roman's gotta hit 1000 days and he's only defended his title once since WrestleMania, which was 5 months ago. And when you pull stunts like that, the fans lose faith in the product. I stopped watching the TV shows in 2018 and then stopped altogether in 2021, came back when Triple H took over, Lost faith when Cody lost at WrestleMania, and stopped watching the TV shows again a few weeks ago because it's gotten so bad.
Make it make sense, WWE. :)
WWE loves to bury Wrestlers people like.
Who outside of Bray was any good after their breakup?
such a generic mark comment lmao, just complaining. there's been sooooo many wrestlers that WWE have pushed for the people since the nexus buddy.
@@afeef8502and there’s also been sooooo many wrestlers they’ve burried since the nexus buddy!
WWE GOT 40 YEARS WORTH OF SHIT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT…YALL TURN A BLIND EYE TO ANYTHING
@@Brooks1874 Not everyone can be pushed
Yall know Cena doesnt have full say on things that happen he apologized for it yea but it was Vince that booked it not Cena
Michael Tarver 😂
Heath with the wendy hair 😂
Skiff whatever the name was 😂
David Otunga 😂
Wade was the only credible one, everyone else were what Horace Hogan was to the NWO.
The Nexus were not gonna be that big, even if John put them over; Vince would’ve still not given them (Wade Barrett) the push.
Thank you. Fans just want something to gripe about as usual.
Laughing at Ryback? Wow, Ryback gave us a lot of entertaining main event. Heath's a very good seller and one of the best in the business. Michael Tarver is really good at promos and has huge potential. WWE writings screwed them all that's why you can't see the talent behind them. You're not a real wrestling fan if you see them as jokes
@@cl_interp5 Who are you to call someone a "real wrestling fan" 😂😂😂
@@cl_interp5 Ryback wasn't that big a deal in the Nexus. He was just the braun
@@jordannewsom3606 That's funny. Coming from a guy who cannot see the talent from these guys Ryback sure is just another Braun
Believe it or not, Nexus was still a successful faction, all of them for the most part became IC, US, or tag team champions at some point and Daniel Bryan became WWE and WH champion. Barrett though should’ve been a mega star, easily WWE or WH champion, they even considered him at one point to break the Undertaker’s WM streak. Horrible timing with Injuries and letting his character get stale was what screwed him, unfortunately.
John Cena is the hulk hogan of the newer generation 😂 he definitely was behind the call of going over. To me John wasn’t that good in the ring, his promos were top which made him a draw but other than that he wasn’t that good. The real top guys were Steve and Rock because they were great on the mic and great in the ring especially with selling others moves.
steve at the peak of his career, use to just do the stomps and punches and the stunner. occasionally he would pull out a suplex. sure he was great at selling, but so is most of the WWE roster current and past lmao. in terms of in ring, cena is better in my opinion, but to satisfy u, cena and steve in ring are probably the same level. i will say rock is on the same level too, but his selling was far better than both cena and steve.
cena is good in the ring u clown u spend too much time on burying him and complain and crying about him didn't notice a lot of his best matches he had while he was full time smh !
After watching him in I am Vengeance movie, I can imagine this guy could play as DC's Deathstroke.
This is what baffles me. Cena is one of the most humble human beings on this planet. If he ever becomes canonized (turned into a saint), I wouldnt be surprized. But when it comes to wrestling, the guy has such a huge ego (due to the fact that he wants to protect his character) that he can never get the right guy over when they desperately needed it. Bray, Theory, Rusev are all recent examples of guys who had momentum getting squandered because they faced Cena. Hell, Austin Theory won his match yet it wasnt credible. Prime Cena was 100x worse.
prime cena was at his best had one of his best matches and he was entertaining on the mic u crying clown u just disrespecting him here and crying about him like a hater which doesnt surprise me or anyone else in this comment section !
@@simenzelwedlamini Prime Cena literally had the crowd divided because his act got stale. The only thing that carried him was his mic skill and the fact that he was over with Children. You literally have heels like Triple H and Kurt Angle trying so hard to get Cena over yet they are the ones who got cheered for. Cena was a bad champion when people would prefer Triple H to return to his reign of Terror. By the time WWE became PG, Cena was champion during the second worst period in WWE's history because of how much the product questioned the audience's intelligence. By the time Cena stopped being champion contender, the product became better.
At Least Hogan, who was 100x worse than Cena kept things fresh when his act went on a decline.
But keep meat riding Cena, you cretin.
Cena beating Rusev wasn't a problem. Rusev already defeated Cena
@@simenzelwedlamini He is being a hater is being logical. Cena did have a huge ego back then.
@@aliharis4266 so did a lot of wrestlers not only cena pal plus crying about to 2023 is pathetic !
Wade Barrett Helping the Nexus Getting all the titles for a year time and then help others reclaim those titles one by one would have been the ultimate sell of them but not a single one of the Nexus is still active in WWE out of Wade Barrett on commentary. ( Bray Sadly of course )
Looked to be a certain win for Nexus? 🤔 What's he talking about? Nexus didn't stand a chance. They were rookies who were all about attacking people 7v1. When the 7v7 match was announced I was like 🤨 how is this even going to be a match?
did you say the same with the shield, because they are literally the epitome of unfair advantages in ambushes and attacks, in fact the shield was vince's second chance at properly booking a faction and he even almost screwed up with them at the hands of cena again, until they convinced him not to, I bet vince's mind drew back to when he thought the same for summerslam 2010 and finally agreed with the shield guys
LMAO😂😂😂😂
Here is how they should have booked it so that both Cena and the Nexus came out strong. You have The Nexus beat everyone one after the other in a row. So you end up at 7-1 against Cena. They beat up Cena but he manages to eliminate Nexus members but he keeps taking more damage and by the time it's 2 on 1, Gabriel and Barrett, Cena is running on fumes. You have Cena barely manage to eliminate Gabriel and immediately Barrett comes in, elbow to the back of Cena's head, Winds of change, 1-2-3. Nexus look good as they beat out 6 WWE superstars, you can make falls based pn "rookie mistakes" and Cena manages to survive 6 men, but he just ran out of steam
Cena confuses me; he does all this shit for make a wish and charity but he’s also a complete jerk off at times. It just makes me think he does the Make a wish stuff for show and that’s about it.
He's a corporate creature, and I don't necessarily mean that as a criticism.
He has a brand (John Cena) linked to a company (WWE or whoever is producing his movie/TV) and in his/their minds, what is best for the company is best for John Cena, and when in doubt, what is best for John Cena is best for the company.
It doesn't mean his charity stuff isn't genuine or indeed that he's a horrible human being, but he's someone who has benefitted from mooring his ship to an entity and that's resulted in them both building much of the company in or around his image and legacy, and him happily dedicating himself to that company because on the whole they've made him very successful.
But at the same time it does mean that he's always going to be looking out for the interests of John Cena and the WWE in the event that there's a conflict or a decision to be made, whether that's burying the Nexus so he can keep being big match John, or apologising for daring to suggest Taiwan is a separate entity to China, or indeed being perfectly happy to use his own engagement to whichever Bella it was on national TV for the sake of pushing ratings when any fool could see that it wasn't a relationship which was exactly stable or healthy.
nah u cant rly fake the make a wish stuff because john doesn't seem like that kind of person, but yeah u never know. also no one is perfect, john definitely has his faults and its obvious that he has tried to make it up with to the hardcore wwe fans by putting over many superstars since and adding stuff to his moveset back in 2011-2017ish.
Looking out for your own self interest in an industry that's notoriously filled with snakes and people fighting to get to your spot does not make you a "jerk off".
@@deadtotheworld22I doubt that my friend. I think people still believe that it's cool to hate Cena all these years later
Cause he didn't like the nexus angle?
Barrett and Danielson (if you want to count him) were the only main event level wrestlers in the Nexus.
Didn't Wade Barrett already talk about this
This is an old video.. lmao
This was back in 2017
They re-upload old shit to bring up old ass narratives that have been talked to death
Now everything is forgiven. Wade barrett doing an aweosne job with cole and got promoted to raw
Cena: doesn't worked for me brother!
More or less Vince
Absolutely killed Barrett's rise to being a top guy. Heck, even Gabriel coulda been a solid mid-carder.
Ppl that think Cena buried Nexus need to look at that group. Only one of those guys was a star and it took a gimmick change bc no one really cared after the Nexus dissolved. How is that Cena's fault?
Smarks tend to believe in Conspiracy Theories
@lancethefilmguy9392 Austin never put over people but doesn't get crap so apparently in Smarks minds he has to lose every match/he's in so it doesn't seem he's burying people him logically winning is burying people
I remember absolutely hating the Nexus. Little 10 year old me wanted them to be destroyed by Cena . They did an amazing job
Nexus walked so shield can run
Wade should have held the WWE championship atleast once during that time as the leader of the Nexus, it would have been perfect
Soooo...based on Wade's own words, it was Vince's call, and his rationale was that SummerSlam needed to have a a happy ending. Where does that become Cena's fault?
Stop. This was on cena everyone knows
@AD-ur1fk
Why is it that logic only applies to wrestlers that people don't like? Was it _Bret Hart's_ fault when, for the 6 years between winning the IC title and Montreal, he only lost cleanly to members of his family? Or, was that _Vince's_ decision? If that was Vince's call, and his alone, why would this call be any different?
@@AD-ur1fkSource? TRUST ME BRO 😂
@@BardineerBecause they are Smarks. They aren't themselves unless there is somebody to hate on. They are the Conspiracy Theorists among wrestling fans.
@@Bardineerz I would assume that Bret DID have some say in that call.
Was waiting for him to sound furious. Still waiting but the video seems to have ended.
Even if they lost the summerslam match the main cause of their failure was the terrible booking. Even after they lost cena made them look like a bunch of geeks. After he was “fired” he kept attacking them and basically burying them. Like you’re telling me this one guy can constantly beat 6 guys. And then in the end he literally buried Barrett under a pile of chairs. Cena was booked way too strong and it destroyed their momentum and that was as high in the card as most of them ever went. As far as the merchandise thing goes cena was only in the nexus for 7 weeks. You’re seriously that greedy that you can’t share profits for a month and a half so you can help elevate these guys who you literally stopped their momentum at summerslam?
You still believe that after 13 years? 😂
To be fair about the merchandising thing, there's another aspect to the profits that you neglected. Wade said it himself that if he had a 5% cut in his contract, he'd get 5% and WWE would get the rest. That means if John Cena, possibly their biggest merch mover since Austin, was taking a smaller cut, THEY would be taking a smaller cut, and they couldn't have that.
Could Cena have put his foot down and told the brass he was going to commit to the storyline and wear the 'N' shirt to help elevate the Nexus? Sure. However, let's not just say it only came down to Cena's greed. There were other pockets getting lined and other people who needed to get paid.
Wade was the only guy from that group i ever thought would be anything so I still don’t care that they lost
John cena didnt buried the nexus vince did
Finally someone who doesn't believe in the Nexus Conspiracy Theory
John cena later admitted in a interview he f**ked up by not putting nexus over at summerslam so YOUR WRONG cena had huge backstage pull and at anytime could have chosen to win or lose anymatch in his prime
@@lancethefilmguy9392true
@@bigdonald123 Source? TRUST_ME_BRO
Hated the nexus when I was younger, but fast forward tonight they missed badly not pulling the trigger
You know, i aint no john cena fanboy and i agree, his part in the story did hurt nexus.
But atleast he held restraint cuz L.W.O got written a happy ending then rey not content to feud and be forced into no more....recreates L.W.O.
Atleast John Cena aint trying to hurt beyond what was neccessary and leaves nexus be.
Rey recreates L.W.O. and degenerates it much further.
DEFLECTING
Nexus weren't heels to me because their leader was from the UK and we don't get many ofvour lads at the top
Considering 3/4 of that group turned out to be complete nut cases I don’t feel too bad for Nexus to be honest 😂
Which ones??
@@intergalacticglobalistslayerRyback is the only one i can think of
@@intergalacticglobalistslayer Wade Barrett himself was prone to injury, we all know how Ryback turned out, everyone else besides Daniel Bryan and Bray Wyatt? Meh..
@@sonomni Holy shit, I forgot that Nexus had Husky Harris, who was Bray Wyatt before Bray Wyatt.
8/10 clickbait job, step it up lads
I would love wade to return and start a new nexus with next superstars.
Even if Nexus had won the match , they would have buried themselves anyway.
Yep. They were the Alliance 2.0 basically
I understand why people were upset but let’s be honest the only one with talent to be a star from the Nexus was Wade. He was in line for many main event pushes but the guy couldn’t stay healthy. Ryback was awful, Gabriel was cool but had 0 charisma, Heath’s ceiling was the midcard, don’t tell me y’all cared about Otunga, and I don’t even get what Tarver was supposed to be
I disagree with this jabroni. I was there that night at summerslam. The entire crowd was pro cena, and there were alot of young people like myself. We were all rooting for cena
That wasn't what he was talking about, though. Cena losing wouldn't have done any damage to his resume and popularity, and Nexus winning would have been huge in terms of putting them over as monster heels, and that the crowd was pro Cena would have only increased that impact. On the other hand, Cena winning didn't do anything positive to him (because he just didn't need that win), and it damaged Nexus so hard that they never really recovered from that.
Now I don't think that was Cena's doing because if Vince had seen huge potential in those guys, he wouldn't have cared about what Cena wanted. Same guy that didn't care about Taker when he destroyed his streak by giving the win to the one wrestler who didn't need it in any way. I don't even necessarily think Vince was lying about the happy ending thing, because that's exactly like all the other kinds of stupid ideas that he went with and made WWE into such a huge pile of steaming mess before HHH took over creative.
@@Eluarelon Pretty sure they were also considering Wade Barrett of all people to break his streak 😂
Because you were a young kid who didn’t at the time understand how much of an impact this would have on having the nexus lose
@@Brooks1874LA did cheer for Team WWE
@@Eluarelon That streak ended in 2014, Plus taker wanted lesnar to go over at WM30, Brock Lesnar is the legit factor of Pro Wrestling, I couldn't have been more happy.
Ironically enough this is the last storyline I really remember before I quit watching WWE. It was amazing.
BLAH BLAH BLAH Everything is John Cena's fault. BLAH BLAH BLAH Nexus would have been bigger than The NWO BLAH BLAH BLAH. We've heard it all before from people who failed miserably to get over and need someone to blame. It was John Cena's fault Alex Ryley fizzled out. It was John Cena's fault Ryback was never WWE champion. Just add Nexus to the list.
Alex Riley claims backstage politics and intentional career sabotage, so it's very different. Ryback lost his momentum when he lost to CM Punk because Cena had been injured. The Nexus completely lost all credibility directly due to Cena's actions both on and off screen. Don't get me wrong I love Cena but he completely killed this faction. And they were already very over (as was Ryback), it just didn't last, there's a big difference.
Genuine delusion 😂
Vince wanted a happy ending... could have achieved that with an underdog victory from Daniel Bryan instead of the typical all hail super cena bullshit
Except before Summerslam, the Nexus was always depicted as a heel faction that beat up people 7 vs 1 because they couldn't win fairly. They never stood a chance.
The Nexus was a unified group with a common goal. Team WWE was a group of seven guys just thrown together with overblown egos. The buildup to the match had Jericho and Edge fighting with each other, and there may have been other infighting, I can't recall. During the match, WWE team refuses to help each other out and get in each other's way, while Nexus systemically keep each other fresh and eliminate the opposition until they get their usual numbers advantage, then they dominate as per usual. Easy booking that had no good reason to not happen.
lmao nooooo we didn't know that, which is the POINT of what Wade Barrett is saying in why his team needed to go over, to prove everyone wrong, and to show how strong they were
The main problem is that they were booking the Nexus to be a serious force, and they were barely getting started when SummerSlam began. The Nexus still needed to get a marquee win to establish themselves, and building them up just to lose destroyed all the momentum they quickly gained.