No thats not the reason why . Many " Hifi " speakers have large magnets and large voice coils . But if that magnet is Y45 grade ferrite it wont need to be as big .
These retards think that size is everything. If you look at some of the loudest concert subs you'll see "small" voice coils aswell compared to what a basshead would want.
That sub is way out of the glory days of Canton when they destroyed the competition, from 1974 to 1990 the company made speakers others could only dream of making. I got the GLE 100, their top model and largest speakers that they made up until 1980. Extremely rare, they exist only in Germany really, had to import them. Sound is out of this world, nothing comes close.
When i was 15 i was building 1:3 ratio 4th order boxes for my subwoofers . Wasnt that well off so had to make the most of what i had . And it sounded goooood
BassErex Hah, you wish a 2 inch could beat Dayton. Unless it's the beefiest 2 inch driver ever, it won't hit anywhere near 20 watts. The Daytons are taking ~1400 watts daily without getting warm.
Ich hatte viele Subwoofer von Harman Kardon bis SVS pb13 Ultra, aber Canton-Subwoofer waren schon immer etwas Besonderes für mich, derzeit habe ich Canton AS 85.2 und AS 60cx und bin sehr zufrieden..!
The issue is Bandpass enclosures are extremely driver sensitive in the T/S Parameters, and you would need to find a driver with _near-identical_ parameters to the original woofer. This is just a very oversimplified explanation. It's not nearly as easy as it sounds.
It is an AS 10 actually. See the video when he removes the screws. The type number is on the sticker at the top of the speaker at the left of his left hand.
Canada Kid Yes, but the Canton woofer is so much better than the Logitech. If you put a clean 100 watts into the Logitech it'll bottom out. If you do the same with the Canton it'll take the power with no problems. Even Sony woofers are better than Logitech for their price range.
@@whatismylife3546 the canton looks like a fuckin car door speaker, as the z623 sub actually looks like a nice little sub, yes they bottom out, but that happens to any logitech speaker that size or lower.
i have a z313 system, blew the sub, that shit distorted like crazy, put a different nicer sub in there, and now its all fine, the z313 amp is actually really good lmao.
@@realchronal even the Z523 wasnt very good, the Z623 was decent, the Z323's amp wasnt powerful enough for it's own sub, i was able to bottom it out all the time at full bass and max volume and the woofer didnt even get warm the X-240 was most certainly better than the 323 and 313, apart from the satellites atleast
I work in a warehouse with all kinds of stuff that people just give away and I'm pretty sure I have the same one standing there in a rack. It's just the sub alone though, don't know where the other speakers went. :)
+Doublsmm You mean 4th order bandpass not a 6th order a 6th order has 2 ported chambers tuned to 2 frequencys instead of 1 ported chamber tuned to one frequency and 1 sealed chamber
Found one like this but black in the garbage, took it and hook it to my Marantz NR1603 ,sure it is not a good Sub , but actually working and sound not too bad. And yes it is not so powerful. My 10 inch Magnat Sub is sound much better.
Actually it depends. He might've ment a quasi-6th order bandpass, but mistakingly said the chamber inside the outer one was sealed, instead of ported. Quasi-6th order bandpass boxes are weird. basically a ported box in a ported box. I had a shitty one with my old RCA rt2770, bass response was peaky as and the bass was far from sub bass. They can be brilliant boxes, but are very difficult to perfect afaik. Update: never mind, it is a 4th Order bandpass.
That subwoofer built for Hi-Fi? Good joke LOL! I would remove that junk mosfet amp, stick some insulation in the sealed side, put a more capable driver in it.
I know both are IC's. I meant that Class D uses a different IC design then a A/B mosfet amplifier. A class D is a hybrid amplifier that's linear rather then push-pull, though people often mistake Class D amplifiers for using mosfet to drive speakers.
Get the action cam out of your videos. Messes up the quality of your video production. If it was 4K I would understand but not the best idea now. Still awesome videos.
NerdyBassHead 2004 oh yes there is xD of you listen to Music its all Right and sounds very deep but if you turn it up and the sub plays some 35hz its just port noise and nothing Else xD
OK! I'm going to say what NO ONE ELSE IS! WHAt in the HECK was the PURPOSE of this CHEAP sub demo, when it CLEARLY is BELOW SUB PAR. No PUN intended. YES it was HAHAH!
No thats not the reason why . Many " Hifi " speakers have large magnets and large voice coils . But if that magnet is Y45 grade ferrite it wont need to be as big .
These retards think that size is everything. If you look at some of the loudest concert subs you'll see "small" voice coils aswell compared to what a basshead would want.
Vid start at 3:31
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That sub is way out of the glory days of Canton when they destroyed the competition, from 1974 to 1990 the company made speakers others could only dream of making. I got the GLE 100, their top model and largest speakers that they made up until 1980. Extremely rare, they exist only in Germany really, had to import them. Sound is out of this world, nothing comes close.
always nice to read these stories. i just got into hifi
if its a sealed chamber, its a 4th order
Yh I was gonna say that
Its called a 4th order bandpass box
MARINLAW thats what i wanted to say😂 a 6th Order is when both Chambers are ported
Leon Lange haha beat you to it .
No hes just young . We all learn as i once did . He will get there
MARINLAW im just 1 year older than him😂 i think he knows that this is a 4th Order but got a bit confused
When i was 15 i was building 1:3 ratio 4th order boxes for my subwoofers . Wasnt that well off so had to make the most of what i had . And it sounded goooood
very nice speakers you've made, nicely painted and cut.
This Canton subwoofer is *The best!*
Your dayton lost with this sub!
Dayton is shit
my one 2 inch small sony subwoofer win with this sub
BassErex Hah, you wish a 2 inch could beat Dayton. Unless it's the beefiest 2 inch driver ever, it won't hit anywhere near 20 watts. The Daytons are taking ~1400 watts daily without getting warm.
My sony got a 2500 watts not max! Rms! A
BassErex It must be a car subwoofer then. A normal bookshelf speaker takes 100 clean watts RMS, 140 watts peak. The rated RMS rating is 60 watts.
BassErex is being sarcastic and not serious.
Best sub ever
Ich hatte viele Subwoofer von Harman Kardon bis SVS pb13 Ultra, aber Canton-Subwoofer waren schon immer etwas Besonderes für mich, derzeit habe ich Canton AS 85.2 und AS 60cx und bin sehr zufrieden..!
a Tangband or Dayton 6 1/2" would probably be better. paired to a Dayton 70 Watt Plate amp.
Dude I love the second cam please keeep it
Make a video giving an overhaul review of all the 5.1 and sound demo
he already took apart 2 and blew one
MathGuy Michael well😂
He has not blown the cantons!! He has blown the lg and the teac's in previous videos!:)
speaker freaker why doesn't he put these speakers in his garage? 😂
Artikelnummer = Item number or part number. Greetings from Germany.
Skedda der erste deutsche den ich unter diesen videos sehe lol
Ich bin auch deutsch, aber ich kann sehr gut Englisch
Jo ook nederlands
also same for swedish. greetings from sweden.
ItsTycho me2
does this keith have a youtube channel where he finds these things?
Yea I'd like to find some of thoes speakers
I have Canton Towers these making perfect bass job
Today I found one today and it works fine. It's realy enough power for me
The port is kind of big but you can replace the driver in it with one with more excursion so there would be more bass and the sub can blow more too
The issue is Bandpass enclosures are extremely driver sensitive in the T/S Parameters, and you would need to find a driver with _near-identical_ parameters to the original woofer. This is just a very oversimplified explanation. It's not nearly as easy as it sounds.
Hey I got to ask you something I got two zenith speakers and I was wondering if I make a video about them can you make a custom housing for them
Lol the box is huge for such a tiny woofer.
I think this is a Canton AS5. I have an AS10 now (about 100watts) and it shook the eaves :o btw in mine the woofer's facing the other way.
It is an AS 10 actually. See the video when he removes the screws. The type number is on the sticker at the top of the speaker at the left of his left hand.
Did you build the Dayton sub enclosures yourself? Were they a kit? Thanks
built them himself
i love the see whats inside always gets me excided and it looks similar to the z623 subwoofer
Canada Kid Yes, but the Canton woofer is so much better than the Logitech. If you put a clean 100 watts into the Logitech it'll bottom out. If you do the same with the Canton it'll take the power with no problems. Even Sony woofers are better than Logitech for their price range.
@@whatismylife3546 the canton looks like a fuckin car door speaker, as the z623 sub actually looks like a nice little sub, yes they bottom out, but that happens to any logitech speaker that size or lower.
i have a z313 system, blew the sub, that shit distorted like crazy, put a different nicer sub in there, and now its all fine, the z313 amp is actually really good lmao.
@@realchronal even the Z523 wasnt very good, the Z623 was decent, the Z323's amp wasnt powerful enough for it's own sub, i was able to bottom it out all the time at full bass and max volume and the woofer didnt even get warm
the X-240 was most certainly better than the 323 and 313, apart from the satellites atleast
cool vid love the action cam
I got a real nice front fire 12" canton along with 5 surround front towers etc..... its one of there older 5.1 higher end sets though.
Is this a good speaker system?
ArtiKel driver from Denmark. Looks like it has a paper cone with rubber surround.
I work in a warehouse with all kinds of stuff that people just give away and I'm pretty sure I have the same one standing there in a rack. It's just the sub alone though, don't know where the other speakers went. :)
it sounded cleaner to me with the open port
Your the best speaker system thet i know
It's a 4th order, it has a sealed chamber. In 6th order both chambers are ported......🙂
Thanks
could the box be modded to make it better?
Yes throw it in the bin.
+Doublsmm You mean 4th order bandpass not a 6th order a 6th order has 2 ported chambers tuned to 2 frequencys instead of 1 ported chamber tuned to one frequency and 1 sealed chamber
Tuned in between 2 frequencys eg port 1 tuned to 25hz and port 2 tuned to 40hz
Does it sounds better than Logitech z623?
Turn the sub over
I had a black one of these with the tiny surround speakers. The tiny speakers are also black. My sub blew out though :(
i loved your video
Found one like this but black in the garbage, took it and hook it to my Marantz NR1603 ,sure it is not a good Sub , but actually working and sound not too bad. And yes it is not so powerful.
My 10 inch Magnat Sub is sound much better.
Were do you get your speakers
I have exactly the same one only the transistor is broken from the amplifier but I only payt 3 euros for it
Could you do a review of a mirage 150bps (not the shiny one)
Hey bro how we tune home theater sub box?
Max vol on the sub amp will automatically give u distortion
Ita a isobaric 4th order, 6th order has poorts on the front of the sub and the back of the sub
Actually it depends. He might've ment a quasi-6th order bandpass, but mistakingly said the chamber inside the outer one was sealed, instead of ported. Quasi-6th order bandpass boxes are weird. basically a ported box in a ported box. I had a shitty one with my old RCA rt2770, bass response was peaky as and the bass was far from sub bass. They can be brilliant boxes, but are very difficult to perfect afaik.
Update: never mind, it is a 4th Order bandpass.
whats the action cam ?
Hmm... try inverting the sub, that will maybe increase the SPL.
Keep it up bro yeah I love that camera keep on working hard keep it up and I will watch your videos Man
Hey doublesmm the output ic it is not a transistor it is a out put chip
How many OHM has driver in AS 10?
*HAHA ... FUNNY LITTLE THING ...*
May I have the list of your PA system??
what would be the perfect amp for a pair of Klipsch rf 82 mk2 towers and a Dayton Audio 15" Reference HO Subwoofer 4 Ohm?
vegard pig Marantz for Klipsch speakers.
Should i get a seperate one for my sub? Im new to this so i really don't what would be the best
You could get a dayton plate amp that can take 4 ohm. Just make sure the amp has a little more wattage than the sub can theoretically take.
is there a way i can get away with only 1 amplifier? (the klipsch towers are rated for 150w at 8 ohms each)
How is the sub wired, is it in a passive box?
You can cut a little off the port to make it "smaller"
Diameter, not length.
Cool
It's actuallyba seven inch
Swapped mine for something a bit more responsive.
YAAAAY, FINALLY!!
a speaker?
yeah boi...nice video👍
enough strong woofer
How much
Artikel Nummer( german) means Serial Number in Englisch
As my dad says "hifi more like high finalia
Looks like washer and dryer
Background music? From 0:00 to 3:32?
Build a new, cooler and better box for it
Canton is a Good German "brand" but Teufel is much better (Teufel also a German "brand")
I've got the ul 40 mk2
Technik Und co. teufel was good once but have you ever heard some canton rc-l‘s? Those things sound will bump todays teufel stuff away
No thats just 30-40 watts
That subwoofer built for Hi-Fi? Good joke LOL! I would remove that junk mosfet amp, stick some insulation in the sealed side, put a more capable driver in it.
Travis Piper Have you ever heard it in person? It is actually pretty good.
Yes, it's ok, but there's a clear resonance going on and power limitations couse the bass to fade at certain frequency's.
Yep that's a type of mosfet. Mosfets replace transistors in class A/B amplifiers. Class D amps don't use mosfets that uses a special I/C.
I know both are IC's. I meant that Class D uses a different IC design then a A/B mosfet amplifier. A class D is a hybrid amplifier that's linear rather then push-pull, though people often mistake Class D amplifiers for using mosfet to drive speakers.
Hey man can u please make more of these blowouts and whats inside? i love em ;) Awesome Channel
Ooooooright
Can you send me full dimension of box
do it on jbl 5.1 sound bar.
Get the action cam out of your videos. Messes up the quality of your video production. If it was 4K I would understand but not the best idea now. Still awesome videos.
If the rear enclosure is sealed it's a 4th order....
Artikel means article and nr means number
where are your 4 woofers
He got rid of them back in January 2017
Can you say "China-Ripoff"?
That's a 4th order landmass, not 6th.
Hola me en cantan tus vídeos, pero xfa pude ser en Español o poner texto en español, q estés bien un saludó. De Chile
Particle board
artikelNr is german and means sereal number
Cute
That is not a 6th order it is a 4th order..
Hi brother
Este woofers se llama cantón y es Pal cantón xD
Get a better 6 in sub and put it in that one
can i have it please
Well at least there isnt port noise
NerdyBassHead 2004 oh yes there is xD of you listen to Music its all Right and sounds very deep but if you turn it up and the sub plays some 35hz its just port noise and nothing Else xD
OK! I'm going to say what NO ONE ELSE IS! WHAt in the HECK was the PURPOSE of this CHEAP sub demo, when it CLEARLY is BELOW SUB PAR. No PUN intended. YES it was HAHAH!
I have 3 12" and 1 10 and two 6" and they are shaking the house I had one by my window and shattered the window
Yo can I have the canton 5. 1 I'm trying to make a surround system for my room
Nice but that subwoofer sucks 😔
Do a what's inside series
Nah i think it is a chip-amp.
And That Sub looks Like A Cheap Toyota Car Speaker...
Do a free air of this sub
I have a single dual audio 12 inch
In my room
Now build it a awesome slot ported box amd make some bass
i feel disapointed when i look the woofer
Alif Ramadhan dont be . Its a budget range canton product and its really not the size of the magnet that counts its the grade of the ferrite .
Maybe the woofer can be replaced
Alif Ramadhan yeah it can be . Just make sure the Theil parameters are closely matched
Hi
Stop hating canton most of brands have shity speakers.canton have great soundbar