not even deutero.canonical - the 7 books of that deutero-classification were recognized as canonical by the majority of Jews before others books of the narrow collection were recognized as canonical by the pharisses and their rabbis - for instance, the Pharisees and their rabbis only recognized Daniel around the 4th century AD
@@silveriorebelo2920agreed. It's really messy. The Sadducees probably only recognized the Torah, beta. Israel has an entire different Canon including some of the deuterocanonical books and the Samaritans have a slightly different Torah but don't recognize any of the other books. I think it's best to say that the current Protestant Old testament based on the Jewish Tanakh can best be described as the Canaan of scripture arrived at after the bar kokhba revolt. Even the Talmud has passages discussing the status of Esther as well as Sirach.
I got tired to waiting for the complete study bible so I order the New Testament one. The complete study bible was announced about a week after I received the NT in the mail.
@@StringofPearls55 Just today I got notice from the USPS of two incoming packages, and I clicked on the link to one of them, and it will be coming in from Steubenville, Ohio, and that is where Ignatius Press is headquartered. They printed the label Friday and should mail it out early next week. So, perhaps another week or so and it should be here. I think I ordered it in October.
@@bibleman7757says the protestant. How anti Catholic are you? The “Constantine started the church” or “Mary/Saints are dead she/they can’t hear you” “call no man father” or do you believe in OSAS, etc? Which version of anti Catholic bigotry and propaganda do you spew or align with?
Really appreciate that you did a flip-through. Definitely not for the faint of heart! For sure you need to take some TIME and read through this big boy and let us know more. I received my PLEATHER/LEATHERSOFT copy last week and just glanced at it-super huge and overwhelming a bit! A little intimidating? Catholics all over have been waiting for this gorgeous and massive Bible to be released. And now it’s here, finally! You’ve encouraged me to dig in for a deeper dive. Here’s to the good Catholic scholars that put this together, after all these years! Yeehaw, let’s go!
Absolutely! Bar none✌️ I pre-ordered this edition a few days ago, and can't wait for it + for this review. The NT edition is fabulous and my first go-to for commentary. I've been waiting for this complete edition for years! 😅🥳
I’m a Wesleyan/evangelical Anglican and I really like Scott Hahn. I suspect this will quickly become the “gold standard” for Roman Catholic study Bibles.
This purchase was a no-brainer. If Scott Hahn is involved… I’m just buying it. I got mine in the mail last week and you’re not kidding. This thing is massive. There are more study notes than there are biblical text.
@@thedisconnectedwife4165 I just now 12/10 ordered mine on Amazon and it's a pre-order with no release date stated. Since Dojo has his, I'm hoping it won't be long before we get ours!
Thanks for the quick intro. I already have it - have been using it. Notes are exhaustive and informative. Looking forward to your full review. The difference between the RSV and the RSC2CE eliminates the "thee"s and "thou"s that were in the RSV. Certain passages have been revised to reflect more accurate theological interpretations. For example, Isaiah 7:14 in the RSV2CE uses "virgin" instead of "young woman". "The RSV2CE a more modern and theologically precise version of the original RSV."
@@3ggshe11s No, the RSV-CE of 1966 made NO changes to the OT text. All that was done to the OT was to include the Deuterocanonical books in the places they occupy in the Latin Vulgate. To the RSV-CE NT, about 60-some-odd changes were made to the text. And, yes, the thou/thee/thine pronouns were retained.
I am waiting with bated breath for mine, the delivery date has been extended. I can’t wait. I love the New Testament. Thank you for doing this. I’m one of those who asked you to do it.
im in the EU, couldnt find anything online, went to an analog bookstore, nothing. seems im gonna try again in may 2025. the price in usd was around 65 dollars.
@@GeorgeSmileyOBE oof, that's a lot. I expected it to be around 80 euros max. I'm gonna wait til may 25 for the next print. thanks for sharing this info, apreciate it!
I ordered as soon as it was announced. Still waiting. *Edit- I just checked my email and it shipped out yesterday. Estimated delivery date is Monday! I'm so excited!
Pre-ordered mine. Can't wait. Note: The 7 books of the Old Testament are not apocryphal. They were included in the Greek Septuagint. The Church kept the Old Testament as it was in the LXX then the New Testament writings were included to complete the Bible. Good review. Keep up the good fight.
@@mikeytorres4759 I think what he's saying is that the Greek Orthodox also accept more, fwiw. There are books in the septuagint not in the Catholic canon. From even Wikipedia: 3 Maccabees; 4 Maccabees; 1 Esdras; Odes/Prayer of Manasseh; the Psalms of Solomon, and Psalm 151.
@@benabaxter Thank you. My point is that they are not apocryphal. Those disputed books were included in the LXX as part of God's inspired word. Thank you again.
The original 1966 RSV Catholic Edition didn't make any changes to the Old Testament. The Second Catholic Edition, by contrast, did make changes: it eliminated the remaining instances of Jacobean English and adjusted a few theologically suspect passages (most notably, Isaiah 7.14, which now reads "virgin"). Basically, it's like a middle ground between the original RSV and the ESV. Judges 6.16-18 RSV: And the Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall smite the Midianites as one man.” And he said to him, “If now I have found favor with thee, then show me a sign that it is thou who speakest with me. Do not depart from here, I pray thee, until I come to thee, and bring out my present, and set it before thee.” And he said, “I will stay till you return.” Judges 6.16-18 RSV2CE: And the Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike the Midianites as one man.” And he said to him, “If now I have found favor with you, then show me a sign that it is you who speak with me. Do not depart from here, I beg you, until I come to you, and bring out my present, and set it before you.” And he said, “I will stay till you return.” Judges 6.16-18 ESV: And the Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike the Midianites as one man.” And he said to him, “If now I have found favor in your eyes, then show me a sign that it is you who speak with me. Please do not depart from here until I come to you and bring out my present and set it before you.” And he said, “I will stay till you return.” Judges 6.16-18 NRSV: The Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike down the Midianites, every one of them.” Then he said to him, “If now I have found favor with you, then show me a sign that it is you who speak with me. Do not depart from here until I come to you, and bring out my present, and set it before you.” And he said, “I will stay until you return.”
Just got my Ignatius and am liking it so far. A quick note: The main difference between the RSV2CE and the RSVCE is that the 2CE removed archaic words and updated some word choices to reflect changes in usage, like changing "booty" to "plunder" and "ass" to "donkey." I love the RSV2CE. I think it's the best Catholic translation out there. Looking forward to your full review.
Yes, the archaic English is more precise with "thee" and "thou". How is it that English ended up eliminating distinction between singular and plural forms of the second person? This still causes problems to this very day with different speakers using words like "y'all", "you guys" and "all of you" to distinguish the plural second person. I understand that languages evolve but losing such form and function is seriously a de-evolution.
Some cool features! I've been waiting for this bible for years and years! 😱🥳 Thanks for giving us a glimpse! You can find Dr. Scott Hahn's (general editor and contributor) unboxing and quick presentation on the St. Paul Center channel : “26 years in the making : Ignatius Catholic Study Bible"... Your encounter with Matthew was so funny! Definitely one of God's winks 🥰 Take care and God bless!
Woo it's finally here! Looking forward to your full review, always love to see what your thoughts are even though we possibly couldn't be much further theologically apart!
It's not available here in the UK until 22 December 2024. Mind you, what's a few extra weeks' wait after a 26 year gestation! Thanks for the quick overview. 👍😊
I ordered this one and have the earlier Entire NT. There is a problem with this study bible. There are so many notes that you are constantly skipping back and forth. I suggest reading one to both pages, then going back and reading the notes for what you just read. 4:00 shows that there is half to more notes than scripture, which is a good thing but can easily confuse jumping back and forth. They also have maps where useful, not just at the back and small essays on topic where it appears in the Bible. 7:19 I believe that information is inside this Bible. In the very front somewhere. I believe there is much more in the back than what was mentioned. Forgot to add the notes are not in microman size. where you can just make out the text but need a microscope for the notes. it is the same size. Some Bibles have their notes so small they are unreadable
@dave_eclectic I understood you just fine, Dave. Thanks for the additional details. This truly is a treasure chest of a study Bible! Good tips on how to read it with minimal flipping (as a Liturgy of the Hours devotee, flipping is SOP but never enjoyable). I have a Dake's study Bible and at almost 60 am at the age where the microscopic font on the notes is proving a challenge, so glad such is not the case with the ICSB.
I got a copy of it as a gift. It is very impressive. I am not a Roman Catholic, and the RSV is not my preferred translation, but this is worth reading through for comparison, and the notes.
Father bless, you might already know this, but the 2nd Catholic Edition fixed a few of the things that I found most annoying about the original RSV, like fixing the "young woman" passage in isaiah, leaving the long ending of Mark (though there is still a footnote) and consistently using "you" in the OT to match the NT. I still personally prefer the NKJV but I think it's better than the original RSV or NRSV imo.
@@BenjaminButler. The content of the OSB is Orthodox, of course, but the St. Ignatius Bible does set the bar higher, in terms of what a Study Bible ought to do. So for Orthodox people, I would still recommend the OSB, but future revisions of the OSB ought to try to cover similar ground as well.
1. This is the hardcover. There is also a bonded leather. 2. Matthew Thomas! What a great guy. He was a professor I knew back at grad school, though I never had the pleasure of having him in class. 3. The distinction between deuterocanonical and apocryphal is important because there is Second Temple literature that Catholics regard as apocryphal. (There's also post-Second-Temple stuff everyone regards as apocryphal at various levels, but that's probably not news. All Christians pretty much share the same NT.)
@@DiscipleDojothe Dueterocanon has been in the Bible since it was compiled. By what authority do you remove it. Martin Luther’s? John Calvin’s? Your own?
Very glad to see this. I hadn't seen a review with the hardcover yet. Looking at the size, I was leaning more toward the hardcover since it didn't look like the type of Bible to be carrying around. Now that I see it in hardcover, I will definitely be getting it.
Come home to the true church the universal church founded by Jesus Christ and handed down through apostolic succession from Jesus to Peter and so on. Come home to the fullness of faith. And break from the heretic Martin Luther who protested the true church and splintered her into 60,000 different denominations that we have today which has watered down what Christ truly wanted and taught and who all believe different things and do not agree with each other. Sola scriptura is not right it’s scripture written and oral teachings which the Catholic Church follows. Do your research dig deep study the first church fathers and come home. I was Protestant, I am currently in RCIA and will be confirmed at the Easter vigil. Most sacred heart of Jesus have mercy on us immaculate heart of Mary pray for us! 🙏 God bless.
My old eyes love the 10.4-point font of the already published Ignatius NEW Testament Study Bible. I want to see an Ignatius OLD Testament Study Bible in 10.4 font someday! This new 2024 edition of both testaments has a 9-point font which will be fine for most people, but a tad too small to be comfortable reading for me. I have the Ignatius New Testament in 10.4, and I will continue to collect the larger-font single Old Testament Ignatius editions (Genesis, Exodus, ...) in the meantime.
Excellent overview! I just tabbed over to Amazon and sprung for the bonded leather edition. I can already tell from your flip-through this will be a keeper and oft-used. It's still on pre-order, so I'm hoping for a Christmas miracle so I can make it my 2025 Bible. I'll be eager to see what notes they have for Genesis 3:15, which the traditional Douay-Rheims translates as "she shall crush thy head" and which the RSVCE bowdlerized to "he shall bruise your head." A huge difference! This is a linchpin verse in Mariology. PS: Just picked up Fr. James Mawdsley's book "Crushing Satan's Head" drawing on this potent passage.
I have it but I'm currently making my way through the Douay Rheims. After I finish it I'm going to go and tackle this Juggernaut of a Bible. I have used it already for some spot checking. The presentation of the Holy Land with the areas occupied by Israel is pretty common in Catholic Bibles. My NAB published back in the '90s has the same kind of map in the back , though that one still has Sinai occupied by Israel.
As a Catholic here in the Philippines, I would love to have a copy of the St. Ignatius Catholic Bible, but unfortunately, it’s beyond my budget since it’s priced in dollars, which makes it very expensive for us. If any kindhearted follower here is willing to sponsor a Catholic Study Bible, I would be deeply grateful. It would mean so much to have access to this valuable resource to deepen my faith and understanding of the Scriptures.
I look forward to knowing how this compares with the Didache Study Bible. There are notes that put me off getting the Didache as even just wanting to know something about what the Catholics believe, I don't want notes that cast doubt about the Bible itself and believe there a few of that type in the Didache. From what I have heard, I will like the translation of the RSV2CE
@user-zo2ge3oe8d Book Introductions like Genesis JDP Hypothesis, Isaiah and Daniel. I am going by a review in which some of the text is read by Grant Jones.
No such notes on the Didache bible. The Didache bible has notes connecting scripture to Catholic doctrine found in the Catechism. The Bible with the horrendous notes that virtually all Catholics cringe at is the NABRE. Nothing wrong with the translation itself, but the notes border and sometimes ride on the skeptic line. The New Catholic Bible is a better translation than the NABRE and with more theologically orthodox notes.
Mine came last week after ordering it in like April or so, not too long after the opened up pre-orders. It’s a scary huge Bible but I know it’s going to be well worth the time and effort to get to know it! Enjoy yours when it finally comes!
The map at the end reminded me of this ESV study Bible I had that was referring to “Palestine” in the New Testament in the word and maps. Kind of annoying since Palestine wasn’t a thing yet. This study Bible looks good! I have too many at the moment though haha
Excellent overview of this long-awaited study bible! But, your Bible reviews are always well done, so it was not a surprise. I am looking forward to your full review of the complete Ignatius Study Bible. Even if I own a copy by then, your comments and observations are always worthwhile.
If you have an extra copy of the Little Rock Catholic Study Bible (leather)... I would love to have it ... If you're not using it :) Merry Christmas!! :)
@@DiscipleDojo There is a Haydock Douay Rheims that is packed with study notes and quotations from the Church Fathers. It dates to the 1800s, I believe, and I consider it a predecessor to today's study Bibles. It's expensive and a little difficult to get, but would be worth a look if one ever crossed your path.
Who is God in Islam?, God (Allah) is One, eternal, and unlike anything. He is the Creator, merciful and beyond human limitations. Surah Al-Ikhlas, This short Quran chapter declares: God is One., He has no equal., He wasn’t born, nor has children. A simple, powerful message of pure monotheism!
Nothing unbiblical about the church created by Jesus Christ himself, and continued through apostolic succession. Matthew 16:18-19 "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Matthew 28:19-20 "Therefore, go forth and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have ever commanded you." God bless.
@TheFreshestPrince jesus didn't start the institution u call the catholic church. The church is the body of the believers. That is seriously the only arguments u have. Why is it with these discussions u Never apeal to the scriptures other than your rock verse. And a few other out of context ones. It's always this church father or that church father or well the catechism says such and such. Can u for once actually look at in good faith of the argument see that the bible disagrees with Xyor z tradition. Haven't u noticed that protestants are consistent when looking at the latristics and saying they r not infallible. There little better than reading c.s. lewis. That's all they r. Men with opinions He didn't Vhrist says repeatedly that man's traditions choke the word. But u say that becuase of one verse saying christ did more things not written down we toss the near 100 instances saying not to add. Can't u just meat the argument U would win more protestants if u argue from scripture within context
@@r.a.panimefan2109 we can’t win more converts by using scripture alone because (drum roll please) we don’t believe in scripture alone! It’s true! And not only do Catholics not follow the Bible alone, but no where in the Bible itself does it say to follow the Bible alone. In fact nowhere in the Bible itself does it tell us how many books are even supposed to be in it! Wouldn’t Jesus have told us that if we were meant to follow the Bible only? Actually, how *can* we follow the Bible alone when the Bible doesn’t even tell us what it is? How do you know what books should and should not be in the Bible when the Bible doesn’t tell you? It’s almost like, dare I say it? Jesus didn’t leave us a Bible, because He left us a *Church* . And then, after many years the *Church* decided what books belonged in the Bible! That’s what actually happened! After all Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would be with His *Church* and He prayed for all members of His church to be One! And the Catholic Church is still one, even all these thousands of years later! The Protestants and Orthodox slowly split into more and more schism, while we Catholics have remained one! I encourage all my Protestant brothers and sisters to read church history and realize that “the Bible alone” does not work. Best of luck friend, I’m praying for you ✝️🙏🏻
@@RightCross22 I thoroughly don’t believe in Sola Scriptura but for most Protestants it’s the heart of their beliefs, which is misguided, but using it can be a good path to truly understanding the one holy Catholic Church and why it’s important for every Christian to be unified in it, why the traditions established by the apostles and the church fathers outside of the Bible are just as relevant, I say this as a recent Protestant to Catholic convert myself.
You present yourself as a Bible teacher, but you are a false teacher, with a false gospel, teaching of a false Jesus. And most likely your pride will not allow you to hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Take heed to the warnings in Revelation 2-3.
Rude! If you don’t LIKE him, go somewhere ELSE and keep your ignorant comments to yourself. Why stir up strife? A gentle word turneth away wrath indeed, but I couldn’t help being forthright.
I've had mine since the week of Thanksgiving. I opened the package but haven't even opened the Bible. I ordered it for my wife to give it to me for Christmas This week, I received the Great Adventure notetaking Bible, a new Bible from Ascension. I'm using it to read but waiting until Jan 1 to start writing in it.
No Apocryphal Books in the 73 book Catholic Bible. Deuterocanonical, but no Apocryphal.
Thank you. I was looking to see if someone would correct him on that.
not even deutero.canonical - the 7 books of that deutero-classification were recognized as canonical by the majority of Jews before others books of the narrow collection were recognized as canonical by the pharisses and their rabbis - for instance, the Pharisees and their rabbis only recognized Daniel around the 4th century AD
@@silveriorebelo2920Deuterocanonical is the term the Church herself is chooses.
@@silveriorebelo2920agreed. It's really messy. The Sadducees probably only recognized the Torah, beta. Israel has an entire different Canon including some of the deuterocanonical books and the Samaritans have a slightly different Torah but don't recognize any of the other books. I think it's best to say that the current Protestant Old testament based on the Jewish Tanakh can best be described as the Canaan of scripture arrived at after the bar kokhba revolt. Even the Talmud has passages discussing the status of Esther as well as Sirach.
I just got mine and I'm going to use it for Bible in a Year with Fr. Mike. Can't wait!
Man, I ordered mine in September and still don't have it😢.
@StringofPearls55 That's when I ordered mine too.
I got tired to waiting for the complete study bible so I order the New Testament one. The complete study bible was announced about a week after I received the NT in the mail.
@@StringofPearls55 Just today I got notice from the USPS of two incoming packages, and I clicked on the link to one of them, and it will be coming in from Steubenville, Ohio, and that is where Ignatius Press is headquartered. They printed the label Friday and should mail it out early next week. So, perhaps another week or so and it should be here. I think I ordered it in October.
This is prolly the greatest study bible of the decade, even as a Lutheran this impressed me.
It's full of false teaching
@@bibleman7757 please elaborate
@@bibleman7757 please elaborate
@@bibleman7757says the protestant. How anti Catholic are you? The “Constantine started the church” or “Mary/Saints are dead she/they can’t hear you” “call no man father” or do you believe in OSAS, etc? Which version of anti Catholic bigotry and propaganda do you spew or align with?
@@bibleman7757 wow you must have read it quick to find those false teachings
Take your time with this study bible. You are unique in that it is obvious you actually READ the material.
Really appreciate that you did a flip-through. Definitely not for the faint of heart! For sure you need to take some TIME and read through this big boy and let us know more. I received my PLEATHER/LEATHERSOFT copy last week and just glanced at it-super huge and overwhelming a bit! A little intimidating? Catholics all over have been waiting for this gorgeous and massive Bible to be released. And now it’s here, finally! You’ve encouraged me to dig in for a deeper dive. Here’s to the good Catholic scholars that put this together, after all these years! Yeehaw, let’s go!
You do the best study bible reviews bar none. Looking forward to it.
For sure!
Absolutely! Bar none✌️
I pre-ordered this edition a few days ago, and can't wait for it + for this review. The NT edition is fabulous and my first go-to for commentary. I've been waiting for this complete edition for years! 😅🥳
I’m a Wesleyan/evangelical Anglican and I really like Scott Hahn. I suspect this will quickly become the “gold standard” for Roman Catholic study Bibles.
This purchase was a no-brainer. If Scott Hahn is involved… I’m just buying it. I got mine in the mail last week and you’re not kidding. This thing is massive. There are more study notes than there are biblical text.
@mr.e8432 when did you order yours? I ordered mine back in September and have not as yet received a shipping notification. Just curious. 😊
Scott Hahn sure knows his stuff!
@@thedisconnectedwife4165 I just now 12/10 ordered mine on Amazon and it's a pre-order with no release date stated. Since Dojo has his, I'm hoping it won't be long before we get ours!
Thanks for the quick intro. I already have it - have been using it. Notes are exhaustive and informative. Looking forward to your full review. The difference between the RSV and the RSC2CE eliminates the "thee"s and "thou"s that were in the RSV. Certain passages have been revised to reflect more accurate theological interpretations. For example, Isaiah 7:14 in the RSV2CE uses "virgin" instead of "young woman". "The RSV2CE a more modern and theologically precise version of the original RSV."
The RSVCE also used "virgin" in Isaiah 7:14. The 2CE changes are mostly in removing archaic language.
@@3ggshe11s No, the RSV-CE of 1966 made NO changes to the OT text. All that was done to the OT was to include the Deuterocanonical books in the places they occupy in the Latin Vulgate. To the RSV-CE NT, about 60-some-odd changes were made to the text. And, yes, the thou/thee/thine pronouns were retained.
I am waiting with bated breath for mine, the delivery date has been extended. I can’t wait. I love the New Testament. Thank you for doing this. I’m one of those who asked you to do it.
im in the EU, couldnt find anything online, went to an analog bookstore, nothing.
seems im gonna try again in may 2025.
the price in usd was around 65 dollars.
@@lebell79i just paid the shipping to the EU. Cost about 60 euros, total 125 euros.
@@GeorgeSmileyOBE oof, that's a lot. I expected it to be around 80 euros max.
I'm gonna wait til may 25 for the next print.
thanks for sharing this info, apreciate it!
I ordered as soon as it was announced. Still waiting.
*Edit- I just checked my email and it shipped out yesterday. Estimated delivery date is Monday! I'm so excited!
Pre-ordered mine. Can't wait.
Note: The 7 books of the Old Testament are not apocryphal. They were included in the Greek Septuagint. The Church kept the Old Testament as it was in the LXX then the New Testament writings were included to complete the Bible. Good review. Keep up the good fight.
@@mikeytorres4759 Greek Orthodox disagree. :-)
@DiscipleDojo lol. they actually do accept the seven books as canonical as well.
@@mikeytorres4759 I think what he's saying is that the Greek Orthodox also accept more, fwiw. There are books in the septuagint not in the Catholic canon. From even Wikipedia: 3 Maccabees; 4 Maccabees; 1 Esdras; Odes/Prayer of Manasseh; the Psalms of Solomon, and Psalm 151.
@@benabaxter Thank you. My point is that they are not apocryphal. Those disputed books were included in the LXX as part of God's inspired word. Thank you again.
I'm looking forward to your full review of this one, JM, whenever you're ready to share it; no stress -- take your time.
The original 1966 RSV Catholic Edition didn't make any changes to the Old Testament. The Second Catholic Edition, by contrast, did make changes: it eliminated the remaining instances of Jacobean English and adjusted a few theologically suspect passages (most notably, Isaiah 7.14, which now reads "virgin"). Basically, it's like a middle ground between the original RSV and the ESV.
Judges 6.16-18 RSV:
And the Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall smite the Midianites as one man.” And he said to him, “If now I have found favor with thee, then show me a sign that it is thou who speakest with me. Do not depart from here, I pray thee, until I come to thee, and bring out my present, and set it before thee.” And he said, “I will stay till you return.”
Judges 6.16-18 RSV2CE:
And the Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike the Midianites as one man.” And he said to him, “If now I have found favor with you, then show me a sign that it is you who speak with me. Do not depart from here, I beg you, until I come to you, and bring out my present, and set it before you.” And he said, “I will stay till you return.”
Judges 6.16-18 ESV:
And the Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike the Midianites as one man.” And he said to him, “If now I have found favor in your eyes, then show me a sign that it is you who speak with me. Please do not depart from here until I come to you and bring out my present and set it before you.” And he said, “I will stay till you return.”
Judges 6.16-18 NRSV:
The Lord said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike down the Midianites, every one of them.” Then he said to him, “If now I have found favor with you, then show me a sign that it is you who speak with me. Do not depart from here until I come to you, and bring out my present, and set it before you.” And he said, “I will stay until you return.”
It corrects “young woman” from the original RSVCE to “Virgin” in Isaiah 7:14
Just got my Ignatius and am liking it so far. A quick note: The main difference between the RSV2CE and the RSVCE is that the 2CE removed archaic words and updated some word choices to reflect changes in usage, like changing "booty" to "plunder" and "ass" to "donkey." I love the RSV2CE. I think it's the best Catholic translation out there. Looking forward to your full review.
I like the catholic rendering of OT to match NT quotations like Virgin instead of young woman but I like the archaic language.
Yes, the archaic English is more precise with "thee" and "thou". How is it that English ended up eliminating distinction between singular and plural forms of the second person? This still causes problems to this very day with different speakers using words like "y'all", "you guys" and "all of you" to distinguish the plural second person. I understand that languages evolve but losing such form and function is seriously a de-evolution.
@@zatoichi1 That's never occurred to me, but you're absolutely correct.
Appreciate the quick review!
Blown away by this study bible!
Some cool features! I've been waiting for this bible for years and years! 😱🥳 Thanks for giving us a glimpse!
You can find Dr. Scott Hahn's (general editor and contributor) unboxing and quick presentation on the St. Paul Center channel : “26 years in the making : Ignatius Catholic Study Bible"...
Your encounter with Matthew was so funny! Definitely one of God's winks 🥰
Take care and God bless!
That is great that you got one! Looking forward to it!
Woo it's finally here! Looking forward to your full review, always love to see what your thoughts are even though we possibly couldn't be much further theologically apart!
Love the NT, have been waiting for Goliath. Great work Dude
That doctrinal list just sold me. They didnt list that is in there on the website I dont think. Thank you
Thanks for jumping on this. Take your time and look forward to your true review
It's not available here in the UK until 22 December 2024. Mind you, what's a few extra weeks' wait after a 26 year gestation! Thanks for the quick overview. 👍😊
I ordered this one and have the earlier Entire NT.
There is a problem with this study bible. There are so many notes that you are constantly skipping back and forth.
I suggest reading one to both pages, then going back and reading the notes for what you just read.
4:00 shows that there is half to more notes than scripture, which is a good thing but can easily confuse jumping back and forth.
They also have maps where useful, not just at the back and small essays on topic where it appears in the Bible.
7:19 I believe that information is inside this Bible. In the very front somewhere.
I believe there is much more in the back than what was mentioned.
Forgot to add the notes are not in microman size. where you can just make out the text but need a microscope for the notes. it is the same size.
Some Bibles have their notes so small they are unreadable
Try another edit; I have no idea what you are trying to say.
@dave_eclectic I understood you just fine, Dave. Thanks for the additional details. This truly is a treasure chest of a study Bible! Good tips on how to read it with minimal flipping (as a Liturgy of the Hours devotee, flipping is SOP but never enjoyable). I have a Dake's study Bible and at almost 60 am at the age where the microscopic font on the notes is proving a challenge, so glad such is not the case with the ICSB.
This study Bible looks soo exciting! Thanks for a sneak peek!
I've been using it and love it. It's huge. 17,500 footnotes. If you get it, get Bible tabs.
Love the thumbnail, shirt, and your ability to review these Bibles so well✌️🔔
I got a copy of it as a gift. It is very impressive. I am not a Roman Catholic, and the RSV is not my preferred translation, but this is worth reading through for comparison, and the notes.
Father bless, you might already know this, but the 2nd Catholic Edition fixed a few of the things that I found most annoying about the original RSV, like fixing the "young woman" passage in isaiah, leaving the long ending of Mark (though there is still a footnote) and consistently using "you" in the OT to match the NT. I still personally prefer the NKJV but I think it's better than the original RSV or NRSV imo.
Welcome home
Father bless, how do you think it compares to the osb?
@@BenjaminButler. The content of the OSB is Orthodox, of course, but the St. Ignatius Bible does set the bar higher, in terms of what a Study Bible ought to do. So for Orthodox people, I would still recommend the OSB, but future revisions of the OSB ought to try to cover similar ground as well.
1. This is the hardcover. There is also a bonded leather.
2. Matthew Thomas! What a great guy. He was a professor I knew back at grad school, though I never had the pleasure of having him in class.
3. The distinction between deuterocanonical and apocryphal is important because there is Second Temple literature that Catholics regard as apocryphal. (There's also post-Second-Temple stuff everyone regards as apocryphal at various levels, but that's probably not news. All Christians pretty much share the same NT.)
Looking forward to this. The New Testament was my most cherished study Bible. Will be getting this OT and NT one.
I'm excited to see what you make of it.
4:29 - *Deuterocanonical
@@davethesid8960 not to me. ;-)
@DiscipleDojo I'm really not trying to be mean here, but this is where having no authority leads: everyone is there own pope.
@@DiscipleDojothe Dueterocanon has been in the Bible since it was compiled. By what authority do you remove it. Martin Luther’s? John Calvin’s? Your own?
Thanks for doing this shisho! And in a Goonies shirt too.💖
Thank you, Matthew Thomas, for ensuring JM received a copy of this Bible!
Very glad to see this. I hadn't seen a review with the hardcover yet. Looking at the size, I was leaning more toward the hardcover since it didn't look like the type of Bible to be carrying around. Now that I see it in hardcover, I will definitely be getting it.
Not only good for your brain and soul, it works your biceps ( I just got mine)
Mine is already on preorder. Hopefully, it will be delivered on Christmas Day!
Many thanks. That will take you a while to read the study notes.
Come home to the true church the universal church founded by Jesus Christ and handed down through apostolic succession from Jesus to Peter and so on. Come home to the fullness of faith. And break from the heretic Martin Luther who protested the true church and splintered her into 60,000 different denominations that we have today which has watered down what Christ truly wanted and taught and who all believe different things and do not agree with each other. Sola scriptura is not right it’s scripture written and oral teachings which the Catholic Church follows. Do your research dig deep study the first church fathers and come home. I was Protestant, I am currently in RCIA and will be confirmed at the Easter vigil. Most sacred heart of Jesus have mercy on us immaculate heart of Mary pray for us! 🙏 God bless.
So excited!
My old eyes love the 10.4-point font of the already published Ignatius NEW Testament Study Bible. I want to see an Ignatius OLD Testament Study Bible in 10.4 font someday! This new 2024 edition of both testaments has a 9-point font which will be fine for most people, but a tad too small to be comfortable reading for me. I have the Ignatius New Testament in 10.4, and I will continue to collect the larger-font single Old Testament Ignatius editions (Genesis, Exodus, ...) in the meantime.
Excellent overview! I just tabbed over to Amazon and sprung for the bonded leather edition. I can already tell from your flip-through this will be a keeper and oft-used. It's still on pre-order, so I'm hoping for a Christmas miracle so I can make it my 2025 Bible. I'll be eager to see what notes they have for Genesis 3:15, which the traditional Douay-Rheims translates as "she shall crush thy head" and which the RSVCE bowdlerized to "he shall bruise your head." A huge difference! This is a linchpin verse in Mariology. PS: Just picked up Fr. James Mawdsley's book "Crushing Satan's Head" drawing on this potent passage.
We need this one with Larger Fonts!
this one as 2,700 pages. Can you imagine the size of a large print book?
I have it but I'm currently making my way through the Douay Rheims. After I finish it I'm going to go and tackle this Juggernaut of a Bible. I have used it already for some spot checking.
The presentation of the Holy Land with the areas occupied by Israel is pretty common in Catholic Bibles. My NAB published back in the '90s has the same kind of map in the back , though that one still has Sinai occupied by Israel.
I am looking forward to the review😊
As a Catholic here in the Philippines, I would love to have a copy of the St. Ignatius Catholic Bible, but unfortunately, it’s beyond my budget since it’s priced in dollars, which makes it very expensive for us. If any kindhearted follower here is willing to sponsor a Catholic Study Bible, I would be deeply grateful. It would mean so much to have access to this valuable resource to deepen my faith and understanding of the Scriptures.
I look forward to knowing how this compares with the Didache Study Bible. There are notes that put me off getting the Didache as even just wanting to know something about what the Catholics believe, I don't want notes that cast doubt about the Bible itself and believe there a few of that type in the Didache.
From what I have heard, I will like the translation of the RSV2CE
Hey. I’ve been using the Didache Study Bible for many years. What are some of the notes that cast doubt on the Bible?
@user-zo2ge3oe8d Book Introductions like Genesis JDP Hypothesis, Isaiah and Daniel. I am going by a review in which some of the text is read by Grant Jones.
No such notes on the Didache bible. The Didache bible has notes connecting scripture to Catholic doctrine found in the Catechism.
The Bible with the horrendous notes that virtually all Catholics cringe at is the NABRE. Nothing wrong with the translation itself, but the notes border and sometimes ride on the skeptic line.
The New Catholic Bible is a better translation than the NABRE and with more theologically orthodox notes.
I ordered this months ago , waiting for mine to arrive
Mine came last week after ordering it in like April or so, not too long after the opened up pre-orders. It’s a scary huge Bible but I know it’s going to be well worth the time and effort to get to know it! Enjoy yours when it finally comes!
Same, Iordered in September. I just checked my email and it shipped out 12/4 and it should be here Monday.
Thank you from Perú, may Jesus bless you more.
It looks like you helped me decide on my next Bible. I love my old NAB, but it is a standard binle, not a study edition.
That looks like an EPIC treasure
Can't wait to get mine! Any day now! It's like Christmas!... oh wait..... =D
Love your shirt
Looks good, thank you for
The map at the end reminded me of this ESV study Bible I had that was referring to “Palestine” in the New Testament in the word and maps. Kind of annoying since Palestine wasn’t a thing yet.
This study Bible looks good! I have too many at the moment though haha
It's an excellent conservative Catholic study Bible. The Bible books with notations came out individually over 10 years ago.
The RSV CE2 is an updated version of the RSV where they made corrections (e.g. Isaiah 7:14, etc.) It’s almost identical to the ESV.
Excellent overview of this long-awaited study bible! But, your Bible reviews are always well done, so it was not a surprise.
I am looking forward to your full review of the complete Ignatius Study Bible. Even if I own a copy by then, your comments and observations are always worthwhile.
Is this the one Scott Hahn produced?
Yes.
Nice survey of the ICSB.
Awsome shirt! 😅
Is this hardbook or leather? I couldnt tell maybe I missed what you said
@@LouisAlbie this is the hardback
@ Thank you 🙏
Took 'em 26 years. :-D
Yes the real Jedi master training!
Thank you
If you have an extra copy of the Little Rock Catholic Study Bible (leather)... I would love to have it ... If you're not using it :) Merry Christmas!! :)
@@liquidnitrogen58 I just have the hardback I reviewed. Gonna give it alway in a future Open Mat episode so stay tuned.
@ but I never win giveaways :( not a chance :( aw …
@@liquidnitrogen58 whether or not you win giveaways has no bearing on if you will win a future one
@ i don’t understand. Please explain Ephesians 2:8-9 for me
@@liquidnitrogen58 it means the same thing as James 2:24
Wow Is it available in Spanish???
Can you do the ostrog Slavonic bible or Duoay Rheims?
@@LazarúnZalonír no, those are translations, not study Bibles.
@DiscipleDojo but could you do them?
@@DiscipleDojo There is a Haydock Douay Rheims that is packed with study notes and quotations from the Church Fathers. It dates to the 1800s, I believe, and I consider it a predecessor to today's study Bibles. It's expensive and a little difficult to get, but would be worth a look if one ever crossed your path.
I am waiting the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible to compare.
That's a brick. I can't wait for mine to come in
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Can you please look into whether there is a difference between the New Testament in this version versus the New Testament in the original version
@@Ben-kh7wh no. I do not have the original version.
3:06 printing is off centre and titled. I just hope this is a bad copy
Look at Isaiah 7:14, and 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, and you will see what makes it a Catholic edition of the RSV>
Bro does this study bibel ever get translated to german? I need that
The RJPS makes a cameo appearance at 2:47. Looking forward to your review of that!
Still waiting on mine .. twiddling my thumbs here .. *whistling* 😚 my catholic ass .. is waiting lol
This Bible is on back order at most sellers.
" Holy Mary Mother of God "
Israel has not occupied Gaza since 2005. An update should be issued. Still, thank you for sharing. God bless.
This took 26 years to make. Do you honestly think they are going to issue a whole new edition for an update to the last page?
@@reginapontes5672 Israel has not occupied Gaza for 19 years. Tell me why a more recent map could not be used?
Am i the only one that is annoyed that there's no annotation to the footnotes?
Undoubtedly a great Study Bible. However too thick and too expensive for me. (sadly). I'll have to pass.
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Who is God in Islam?, God (Allah) is One, eternal, and unlike anything. He is the Creator, merciful and beyond human limitations. Surah Al-Ikhlas, This short Quran chapter declares: God is One., He has no equal., He wasn’t born, nor has children. A simple, powerful message of pure monotheism!
@@DailyQuranReflection what does that have to do with this video?
@@DiscipleDojo For you to know the truth.
@@DailyQuranReflectionwe know the truth, and it isn’t Islam
Catholism worries me with the continuous unbiblical views
Nothing unbiblical about the church created by Jesus Christ himself, and continued through apostolic succession.
Matthew 16:18-19 "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
Matthew 28:19-20 "Therefore, go forth and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have ever commanded you."
God bless.
@TheFreshestPrince jesus didn't start the institution u call the catholic church.
The church is the body of the believers.
That is seriously the only arguments u have.
Why is it with these discussions u
Never apeal to the scriptures other than your rock verse.
And a few other out of context ones.
It's always this church father or that church father or well the catechism says such and such.
Can u for once actually look at in good faith of the argument see that the bible disagrees with
Xyor z tradition.
Haven't u noticed that protestants are consistent when looking at the latristics and saying they r not infallible.
There little better than reading c.s. lewis. That's all they r. Men with opinions
He didn't
Vhrist says repeatedly that man's traditions choke the word.
But u say that becuase of one verse saying christ did more things not written down we toss the near 100 instances saying not to add.
Can't u just meat the argument
U would win more protestants if u argue from scripture within context
@@r.a.panimefan2109 we can’t win more converts by using scripture alone because (drum roll please) we don’t believe in scripture alone!
It’s true! And not only do Catholics not follow the Bible alone, but no where in the Bible itself does it say to follow the Bible alone. In fact nowhere in the Bible itself does it tell us how many books are even supposed to be in it!
Wouldn’t Jesus have told us that if we were meant to follow the Bible only? Actually, how *can* we follow the Bible alone when the Bible doesn’t even tell us what it is? How do you know what books should and should not be in the Bible when the Bible doesn’t tell you?
It’s almost like, dare I say it? Jesus didn’t leave us a Bible, because He left us a *Church* . And then, after many years the *Church* decided what books belonged in the Bible! That’s what actually happened! After all Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would be with His *Church* and He prayed for all members of His church to be One! And the Catholic Church is still one, even all these thousands of years later!
The Protestants and Orthodox slowly split into more and more schism, while we Catholics have remained one! I encourage all my Protestant brothers and sisters to read church history and realize that “the Bible alone” does not work. Best of luck friend, I’m praying for you ✝️🙏🏻
@@RightCross22 I thoroughly don’t believe in Sola Scriptura but for most Protestants it’s the heart of their beliefs, which is misguided, but using it can be a good path to truly understanding the one holy Catholic Church and why it’s important for every Christian to be unified in it, why the traditions established by the apostles and the church fathers outside of the Bible are just as relevant, I say this as a recent Protestant to Catholic convert myself.
@@r.a.panimefan2109what does the Bible say is the pillar and bulwark of truth? The scriptures, or the church?
You have a false Jesus. Trusting in traditions will only lead you in the way of deception😢
@@simonstuhl4170 who are you talking to?
😂@@DiscipleDojo
You present yourself as a Bible teacher, but you are a false teacher, with a false gospel, teaching of a false Jesus.
And most likely your pride will not allow you to hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Take heed to the warnings in Revelation 2-3.
Rude! If you don’t LIKE him, go somewhere ELSE and keep your ignorant comments to yourself. Why stir up strife? A gentle word turneth away wrath indeed, but I couldn’t help being forthright.
@@simonstuhl4170 You in the IFB? Or are you a Charismatic?
I've had mine since the week of Thanksgiving. I opened the package but haven't even opened the Bible. I ordered it for my wife to give it to me for Christmas
This week, I received the Great Adventure notetaking Bible, a new Bible from Ascension. I'm using it to read but waiting until Jan 1 to start writing in it.