While I ride my scooter, I used the rear brake much more than the front because the front could easily lock and you can flip over. The rear, for me, was used to slow me down and when I was slow enough, I applied my front brakes.
100% mate I hired a scooter in Thailand recently.It was the middle of a sunny day,no drink/drugs or anything else involved and the rear brake just didn't kick in.I slowly engaged the front brake,it seized and now I have 7 broken ribs and a fractured collarbone. However,previous to this the speedometer was smashed and wasn't working and the steering was slightly unstable. I was lucky to be alive.I know it's almost a cliche about hiring scooters in Thai islands and accident percentages but I'll never use one again.If I was doing 30+ mph I'd be dead.
@@thescreamsmusic mate I was also fall off today but I have no major injuries it's only a injury in my right knee and my scooter is isn't damage much but it's accelerator is damaged and now my parents says that i am granted to ride scooter for 4 years
I have also met with such situation.. While I was riding over70+kmph of speed over wet 💦 road when I slightly press rear brake my scooter slide up to 50ft but luckly no any single scratch on me but my jacket damaged from shoulder while sliding on road.. .. Scooter are so dangerous for wet 💦 road.. Always ride safe.. I have learned a big lesson
Having just completed the Vicroads 2 day Motorcycle Learner training today, this video totally confirms what I was taught and in a similar clear and logical manner. Now the fun starts to apply it to everyday riding.
@Mautaz Front brake locks up a lot harder than the rear brake, due to weight being transferred to the front wheel. Never slam on the brakes, apply them smoothly. With good tyres and normal road conditions you would probably flip your scooter before your front wheel loses grip.
Thanks for these videos, I did my CBT, but a few weeks in I wanted to just check a few things to make sure I was driving safely- these videos have really helped me feel more confident.
Hi Ken and greetings from germany. I'm getting my first ever 50ccm (limited to 45 Km/h) scooter today, and your videos are really helpful. Watching your videos, i really feel like i understand what you're trying to tell us. So many confusing websites and so many different opinions on some topics. Especially how to break the right way seems to be controversial, if you ask google and browse through forums.
I was so nervous my first few rides, I've been on the road for 2 weeks now and feel so much more confident. Just keep alert and remember to keep doing your visual checks when moving lanes or coming to brake where necessary. Your nerves will go and you'll confidence will grow. Keep safe and safe riding
love all your videos.. I've only been riding a scooter since January this year, i've never ever been on a bike before apart from a pushbike. Hadn't been on the scooter in around 10 weeks and watched your video on cornering last Wednesday and then with my husband went out on Saturday for a lovely day of riding.. my confidence before this ride was a little down as it had been so long since i had been out on the scooter, but after watching your videos my confidence is coming back.. I will be watching them all over and over so that when I go to sit the 'P' test i will be able to do this with ease.. I live in Tassie and really wish that there was a scooter club or something down here.. Do you have a 'P' test video as I am unable to find one, but do know what is involved with it so I will be out practicing over the next few months.. thanks again, and happy riding!! ;)
Hi everyone, thanks for your comments, all steering on any two wheel vehicle involves counter steering which can seem a bit daunting but in its most basic form is as simple as applying a small amount of pressure on the hand grip that you are turning towards, ie, to go left apply forward pressure to your left hand grip, this will make your scoot lean to the left and therefore go left. Dont think about it to much just give it a go. Any time you turn a scooter you are counter steering !
what to do when takes some practice,lots of good information,love your videos ,probably never get to put them to use though,Disabled,but gives me a positive attitude ,thanks .
If using the front brake makes the rear lighter, shouldn't the rear brake be applied first and only then the front brake? Not only to prevent uneven weight distribution but also to prevent from going head first over your bike? Great videos by the way.
Rear brake don't kick in at high speeds and only lock up wheel if you overdo it.. The correct way is to apply front brake and then deside how much rear brake you need.. There's a sweet spot in rear brake after which the brake locks up... You needs to find that sweet spot and then practice to hold your brake to that point and apply front brake for Rest of your stopping...
Nowadays, most scooters come with front disc brake and rear drum brake. drum brakes are not very good in slowing down scooter at higher speed. Failure to use front brakes at all will caused it to jammed in long run. This happened to my son's scooter.
Thanks for video. A few points and a question, please. Point #1: There is a tiny switch that is engaged when lever is first pulled that activates the BRAKE light on the rear of the bike. I find that pumping the handle just a tiny bit is sufficient to BLINK the brake light and it also primes/engages the master cylinder so that pressure is "ready" to apply to brake calipers. Tiny soft but fast-repeated taps works best, IMHO. Point #2 Bikes that have DISK (usually front) and DRUM (usually rear), unless there is traction/safety issue, using the DISK Not (not the drum) produces better braking results. QUESTION: Now that many modern scooters have LINKED brakes (CBS) and Anti Lock Systems (ABS), is there any special advice on braking techniques using these systems? Thanks!
So am I to understand that "trail breaking" is not to be done on a scooter only motorcycle in corners? I'm not sure if the term "tail breaking" is exclusively a American colloquialism.
Hello! Thank you for your video, it really helps but I just want to ask a question about how to do a break safely if there is a humps? Hope you can help me sir
i find you are the only one giving details on hand grips on throttle and brake i bought a 2nd e-scooter and crashed 3 times not knowing how to reverse out of parking space and having hand on both throttle and brake lost control. there is no licence or insurance requirement for e-scooter, here in Vancouver Canada. help.
Also what should be addressed when using the front brake be careful of the throttle, I have seen people, especially in an emergency when they panic, squeeze hard on the front brake while twisting the throttle by mistake, this inevitably makes the bike unstable or slows deceleration prompting them to tighten their death grip even more, can lead to a nasty accident, really I think that this kind of accident in inexperienced riders could be avoided by locking out the throttle when front brake is applied, you shouldn't really be using both at the same time.
So are we supposed to use the front and rear brakes equally but start with the front first? Also, can you please tell me how to brake going down a hill?
I know this is an old question but mine did the same thing from the factory. The kickstand spring had too much play so I swapped it with the center stand spring which was a half-inch shorter (I eliminated the center stand. You can simply get another spring if you wish to keep yours). The kick stand no longer had any sag or play and hasn't hit the street since.
I have Yamaha aerox 155. Manufacturer company recommended 33 rear 29 psi and it's kinda slippery and hard to bangking on corner, what's the perfect psi for cornering? My wheel size is 140 in rear 110 front. 26,25 psi is good, what can you recommend? :)
Help me.. I have just started learning scooty ride.. I have a problem that i feel scooty is too heavy for me and when i use to break then it comes down left side and i forget to leave the excelerator...
If you live in Oz, go see them at HART. If not, good luck. If you lay down the scooter a few times, you either learn really fast or you stop riding it altogether.
I agree with you totally if it was a bike.. But your advice for scooter riders is dangerous in my opinion. Depends on the particular scooter, the weight could be biased heavily towards the rear.. Applying hard front brake is headed for disaster.. Especially in the wet.. I've ridden a huge range of bikes raced and trained riders over a 40 year period.. Scooters are not one size fits all re braking.. Also emergency stops should always be taught alongside brake modulation.... Just my thoughts.. None the less, congrats on doing your part in helping safety
I actually learn a lot from your video's guys but i'm just actually Canadian so how can I do exactly what you guys want me do in these situations in these videos here in Canada guys
It is an older style Nolan N41 helmet that is no longer available. They do have a great range though if you get to your local scooter or motorcycle store.
While I ride my scooter, I used the rear brake much more than the front because the front could easily lock and you can flip over. The rear, for me, was used to slow me down and when I was slow enough, I applied my front brakes.
100% mate I hired a scooter in Thailand recently.It was the middle of a sunny day,no drink/drugs or anything else involved and the rear brake just didn't kick in.I slowly engaged the front brake,it seized and now I have 7 broken ribs and a fractured collarbone.
However,previous to this the speedometer was smashed and wasn't working and the steering was slightly unstable.
I was lucky to be alive.I know it's almost a cliche about hiring scooters in Thai islands and accident percentages but I'll never use one again.If I was doing 30+ mph I'd be dead.
get well soon,
Thanks mate.turned out that the scooter had been involved in a crash a few days earlier.My shoulder is still smashed up
@@thescreamsmusic mate I was also fall off today but I have no major injuries it's only a injury in my right knee and my scooter is isn't damage much but it's accelerator is damaged and now my parents says that i am granted to ride scooter for 4 years
I have also met with such situation.. While I was riding over70+kmph of speed over wet 💦 road when I slightly press rear brake my scooter slide up to 50ft but luckly no any single scratch on me but my jacket damaged from shoulder while sliding on road.. .. Scooter are so dangerous for wet 💦 road.. Always ride safe.. I have learned a big lesson
Learning how to Brake properly is a critical skill, esp for 2 wheelers!
Very nicely done Ken... Your learning to drive videos are awesome!
This is an old video but still giving away good information. Thank you sir. I wish you good health and happiness. Happy riding. 🙏❤️
Having just completed the Vicroads 2 day Motorcycle Learner training today, this video totally confirms what I was taught and in a similar clear and logical manner. Now the fun starts to apply it to everyday riding.
Thank you for your time making this video to keep us all safe and build confidence
@Mautaz Front brake locks up a lot harder than the rear brake, due to weight being transferred to the front wheel. Never slam on the brakes, apply them smoothly. With good tyres and normal road conditions you would probably flip your scooter before your front wheel loses grip.
Thanks for these videos, I did my CBT, but a few weeks in I wanted to just check a few things to make sure I was driving safely- these videos have really helped me feel more confident.
Hi Ken and greetings from germany. I'm getting my first ever 50ccm (limited to 45 Km/h) scooter today, and your videos are really helpful.
Watching your videos, i really feel like i understand what you're trying to tell us.
So many confusing websites and so many different opinions on some topics.
Especially how to break the right way seems to be controversial, if you ask google and browse through forums.
The only one video explaning it decently, thanks!!
Love your advices. Still I'm a beginner in scooter and yet I'm scared to drive but I'm eager to learn about it. Thank you.
I was so nervous my first few rides, I've been on the road for 2 weeks now and feel so much more confident. Just keep alert and remember to keep doing your visual checks when moving lanes or coming to brake where necessary. Your nerves will go and you'll confidence will grow. Keep safe and safe riding
love all your videos.. I've only been riding a scooter since January this year, i've never ever been on a bike before apart from a pushbike.
Hadn't been on the scooter in around 10 weeks and watched your video on cornering last Wednesday and then with my husband went out on Saturday for a lovely day of riding.. my confidence before this ride was a little down as it had been so long since i had been out on the scooter, but after watching your videos my confidence is coming back.. I will be watching them all over and over so that when I go to sit the 'P' test i will be able to do this with ease.. I live in Tassie and really wish that there was a scooter club or something down here.. Do you have a 'P' test video as I am unable to find one, but do know what is involved with it so I will be out practicing over the next few months.. thanks again, and happy riding!! ;)
Hi everyone, thanks for your comments, all steering on any two wheel vehicle involves counter steering which can seem a bit daunting but in its most basic form is as simple as applying a small amount of pressure on the hand grip that you are turning towards, ie, to go left apply forward pressure to your left hand grip, this will make your scoot lean to the left and therefore go left. Dont think about it to much just give it a go. Any time you turn a scooter you are counter steering !
Very educative and informative. I should have watched this video before a crash some days ago!
Thanks! Just discovered today that my back brake didn’t stop the scooter entirely and that I could still steer. Thought it was broken!
what to do when takes some practice,lots of good information,love your videos ,probably never get to put them to use though,Disabled,but gives me a positive attitude ,thanks .
If using the front brake makes the rear lighter, shouldn't the rear brake be applied first and only then the front brake? Not only to prevent uneven weight distribution but also to prevent from going head first over your bike? Great videos by the way.
Rear brake don't kick in at high speeds and only lock up wheel if you overdo it.. The correct way is to apply front brake and then deside how much rear brake you need.. There's a sweet spot in rear brake after which the brake locks up... You needs to find that sweet spot and then practice to hold your brake to that point and apply front brake for Rest of your stopping...
Nowadays, most scooters come with front disc brake and rear drum brake. drum brakes are not very good in slowing down scooter at higher speed.
Failure to use front brakes at all will caused it to jammed in long run. This happened to my son's scooter.
Thanks had scooter a good few years back and i used both at same time. It caused bike to skid one day now i realise you use front then back
Very clear instructions, thanks!
Thanks for video. A few points and a question, please. Point #1: There is a tiny switch that is engaged when lever is first pulled that activates the BRAKE light on the rear of the bike. I find that pumping the handle just a tiny bit is sufficient to BLINK the brake light and it also primes/engages the master cylinder so that pressure is "ready" to apply to brake calipers. Tiny soft but fast-repeated taps works best, IMHO. Point #2 Bikes that have DISK (usually front) and DRUM (usually rear), unless there is traction/safety issue, using the DISK Not (not the drum) produces better braking results. QUESTION: Now that many modern scooters have LINKED brakes (CBS) and Anti Lock Systems (ABS), is there any special advice on braking techniques using these systems? Thanks!
Still trying to get better and if I do Im getting a big burgman scooter and Im going to ride and never stop.
So am I to understand that "trail breaking" is not to be done on a scooter only motorcycle in corners? I'm not sure if the term "tail breaking" is exclusively a American colloquialism.
Nice Tutorial thanks 🙏 from Mexico 🇲🇽
Great Video. Great Instructor.
Hello! Thank you for your video, it really helps but I just want to ask a question about how to do a break safely if there is a humps? Hope you can help me sir
i find you are the only one giving details on hand grips on throttle and brake i bought a 2nd e-scooter and crashed 3 times not knowing how to reverse out of parking space and having hand on both throttle and brake lost control. there is no licence or insurance requirement for e-scooter, here in Vancouver Canada. help.
Can you make a video about safe breaking on rainy wet hills..
Also what should be addressed when using the front brake be careful of the throttle, I have seen people, especially in an emergency when they panic, squeeze hard on the front brake while twisting the throttle by mistake, this inevitably makes the bike unstable or slows deceleration prompting them to tighten their death grip even more, can lead to a nasty accident, really I think that this kind of accident in inexperienced riders could be avoided by locking out the throttle when front brake is applied, you shouldn't really be using both at the same time.
Hi. Why my scooter switch off when it's wet?
Very informative . Thank you !
So are we supposed to use the front and rear brakes equally but start with the front first?
Also, can you please tell me how to brake going down a hill?
How many American girls have fallen victim to that accent and moustache...LoL You rock!
Does anyone else have the problem when you are tAking a left turn, the kickstand hits the ground a bit? How do you fix it? Thank you
I know this is an old question but mine did the same thing from the factory. The kickstand spring had too much play so I swapped it with the center stand spring which was a half-inch shorter (I eliminated the center stand. You can simply get another spring if you wish to keep yours). The kick stand no longer had any sag or play and hasn't hit the street since.
Thank you for this!
For the none ABS. When applying 1st, front brake or rear brake, whick one can u manage to control, front lock/skid or rear lock/skid?
how to use brakes in bad downhill roads...please !
Was looking for breaking in a scooter engine, but always good to watch good braking tips!
Wow loved it ! Thank you !!
I have Yamaha aerox 155. Manufacturer company recommended 33 rear 29 psi and it's kinda slippery and hard to bangking on corner, what's the perfect psi for cornering? My wheel size is 140 in rear 110 front. 26,25 psi is good, what can you recommend? :)
Help me.. I have just started learning scooty ride.. I have a problem that i feel scooty is too heavy for me and when i use to break then it comes down left side and i forget to leave the excelerator...
If you live in Oz, go see them at HART. If not, good luck. If you lay down the scooter a few times, you either learn really fast or you stop riding it altogether.
Love the jacket
Are you sure I should use the front brake at high speed?? When I do that on a pedal bike I come flying off.
Don't apply too much pressure and don't use it on U turns and you should be all set.
I agree with you totally if it was a bike.. But your advice for scooter riders is dangerous in my opinion. Depends on the particular scooter, the weight could be biased heavily towards the rear.. Applying hard front brake is headed for disaster.. Especially in the wet.. I've ridden a huge range of bikes raced and trained riders over a 40 year period.. Scooters are not one size fits all re braking..
Also emergency stops should always be taught alongside brake modulation.... Just my thoughts.. None the less, congrats on doing your part in helping safety
I actually learn a lot from your video's guys but i'm just actually Canadian so how can I do exactly what you guys want me do in these situations in these videos here in Canada guys
Don't tell me your bike is from another planet? Why should it be any different in Canada? Its about physics, which apply everywhere.
My scooter (Honda Aviator) has cbs it's really good
Great video bro
i used front brake twice in life and feel down
Me too,
What's your scooter?
Lean into the corner rather than just turning the wheel.
Good video
What model of Honda is this?the vision ?
Keep it up bro
Thanks so much
i know this video is old and all but "never front brake in a turn?" what? i use it all the time, it's called trail braking.
You're supposed to use the back brake,
this guy is good!
what kind of helmet is that?
It is an older style Nolan N41 helmet that is no longer available. They do have a great range though if you get to your local scooter or motorcycle store.
@@scootersalesScootersales gd vid subed
From scotland
Sir, I want to know more abt breaking becoz I am a new rider for scooter
good video, thanks
Thank u for your video
I bet guy can wrestle a croc and win
Nice bro
Excellent
thank you
that's beyond the speedlimit in denmark lol.
The scooty look like honda aviator
Ok awesome
yamaha has the best scooters
Hmmmmm. lov my mo, thanks dude
sweet mo