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- Renault are on somewhat of a roll recently. Not only is the Megane one of our favourite electric cars (Bryan is still crying about his one going back to Renault) but the new 5 and hotly anticipated 4 are cars that we are just gagging to drive. But the latest electric car from the French firm is a rather sensible, and not very clever, mid-sized crossover just like everyone else has in their range. And they've even dug out an old name for it; Scenic. So what could this possibly offer us that we haven't seen before? Bryan drew the short straw and flew out to Spain to find out because as always, it is the AutoEV Road Test Review that can be trusted to deliver the only verdict that you need if you are interested in buying a new electric car.
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0:00 - Introduction
02:05 - Titles
02:13 - Meet the car
04:47 - Styling
11:32 - Practicality
18:07 - Interior
26:30 - Usability
28:08 - Performance & Handling
37:26 - Pricing
38:44 - Competition
40:57 - Pros & Cons
41:43 - Summary
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The new design language is fantastic, and puts Renault back in front position.
They are the European manufacturer to watch over the next few years I think.
I have had 3 Scenics over the years and this is, like the others, a good family car, which does happen to be electric. I recently managed to test drive a right hand drive version (adapted from the left hand drive production line) and it is a superb drive. I have one on order.
Why on earth does a family car need 19 or 20 inch wheels? 17 inch rims and taller tyres would improve the ride and efficiency.
Some people also care about the aesthetics of their car and smaller wheels would look odd for the most part.
spot on about the armrest ... how come took so long to see something like this !!
Also got to say Renault are arguably the European leaders in EV's and with the 25 to come ... can;t wait for the review on that !
Just did not think such a minor point was worth mentioning it’s hardly relevant to well anything other than being a bit anal retentive ❤
@@alanwayte432 why you watching this channel then haha
My children have started to read thanks to long trips, now they read all the time. I am glad the youngest was borne 15 years ago, or they would just be stupid screen addicts. Not to mention cars have windows, with life outside...
Love the red colour!
It was a great colour in the sunshine. Have to agree.
You are correct about 0-60 times. Modern driving conditions mean that unless you have a track focussed car there's no point in having more power than is required to join motorways and overtake safely. A three second 0-60 just means higher insurance costs because it's too fast to enjoy safely on public roads.
I made a testdrive in a megane e tech today, and its crazy fast compared to my mazda 6, which is already enough for a daily driver.
We are going for this scenic because the kids dont fit in the megane...
Great review as always. Certainly makes me want to have a closer look. Particularly love the Settings button to reset to personal preferences. 👍🏻
Yes, that was a really simple, yet enjoyable thing to hear at the presentation! Glad you enjoyed the review. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Sure, but if it is too simple to disable over-speed now mandatory warnings, the regulators will just make impossible to do it. Maybe it would have been better if disabling the sound was automatically enabling a huge visual warning when speed is over speed limits. Speed is a huge factor in around 30% of all fatal accidents, in a city most death would be avoided if people were respecting speed limits.
Good size, giving the Enyaq a run for its money. Amusing that the sister Ariya was not mentioned as a rival.
Ah yes, you noticed! I filmed that competitor section many times just trying to remember every car in the same market and price point! And probably the most important one (the Ariya!) was the one I forgot! I had to get the car back to the launch venue and only realised after I got back to the UK I had left it out!!! Interestingly, I retired from driving the Scenic to an Enyaq on my driveway that I have been filming this week. Has made for a good comparison!
A very good review so that common person can easily understand. Do they have OTA update capability? Do you feel any need for headsup display?
Looking at getting my first EV and narrowed it down to ordering this in alpine or Skoda Enyaq coupe 85 what Mpkwh did this achieve during your test.....thanks
I really like the look of the car. Warranty has to be an issue especially since Stellantis are upping the Warranty game in Europe,
Nice looking car. Bit cheaper than the Ariya too!
Super review. Straight to the top of my shortlist when i go from PHEV to full EV early next year. Either this or an Enyaq at the moment.
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Or the Peugeot E 3008 which offers 8 years warranty !
@steffenjensen9350 I do have a Peugeot PHEV with the 8 year warranty. I am put off the E 3008 by the smaller rear space and higher price put will check one out. If only the E 308 SW had the 73KWH battery pack and a bit more power.
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well afaik the current '24 model PHEV only have 2 years warranty,,,,
I switched to Ioniq5 (from 3008 PHEV) due to space, warranty, -and RWD ;)
@steffenjensen9350 interesting to know. My 2022 308 Sw PHEV came with eight year battery - motor - breakdown cover. The dealer did say it might be reduced later. Sounds like it has. I don't think I will be buying another PHEV. Most likely Scenic or Enyaq. At the moment. I do like my 308 though. The deals at the time will probably swing it. Thank you.
As a Megane E-Tech owner I can see that Renault have gone one step further in their Renaulution with the Scenic. I can understand why it’s great looking and clever design made it the judges choice for European Car of the Year. My only criticism I have is that the lip below the tailgate is far too high for a family car that is likely to be carrying dogs and bikes. BTW I have been told that the 2025 UK spec Megane is going to get the bigger Infotainment screen from the Scenic and Austral and the same driver binnacle display. It grates a bit that I bought my car before the price reduction and the option of the Heat pump plus pack - and now the larger centre screen. I have though got the benefit of the 5 year warranty.
I think it looks better than most of its rivals. Only gripe I would have is that it doesn’t seem to have electric seats (not that I can see on Renault website) and if it’s a family car with potentially 2 different driving positions then that makes it a bit of a bind when you swap drivers
Your throw-away comment that it wasn't a Mégane Estate makes me think why not? - that would be brilliant and a lot cheaper than engineering a whole new car.
Unfortunately because people want crossovers. Manufacturers will only build what people buy. That being said, I am going to be reviewing the new Peugeot E308 SW in a month, so maybe estates will make a comeback?
I realise that to an extent, but given the popularity of the MG5 and the anticipation of the upcoming VW estate, a cheap option of engineering an extension at the rear as in the 'old days' must be viable (imho).@@AutoEV
@@PetelmrgIt is a shame, but the VW ID7 estate will be £60k plus. I’d love a decent sized Estate EV but nothing there yet to interest me (MG5 too small, e308 too expensive).
I need to change company cars early next year and had been ear-marking an Enyaq 85 as my new one, but very interested to see what the costs will be for the Scenic. Will try one out in the summer - sounds like it’s a very nice car and love the red colour.
Only thing I’d need to check is boot depth - it looks like that high boot space figure is due to the deep lip and as we have 2 fair sized dogs I would prefer a deeper boot front to back.
The Scenic v's Enyaq is a very valid test. I returned from driving the Scenic to having an Enyaq 60 on test and it made me remember how good the Skoda is. I think I prefer the Renault to drive, and I really like the Google OS and think their sustainability message is much better than Skoda. Plus that range from the bigger battery is a big tick in the box IF it proves to be efficient enough. However, I think the practicality of the Enyaq's load space length may be the deciding factor for you.
@@AutoEVI’ve driven an Enyaq and it’s a nice car and a particularly spacious boot, but l I think I’d prefer the Scenic for looks/packaging and tech. We’ll see - might come down to price anyway as won’t know the leasing rates for a while on our company scheme.
@@ISuperTed While the boot space looks better and more practical in the Enyaq, could we say that the back seat is more spacious in the Scenic?
Its a up market ev kadjar replacement model , same dimensions, except the roof is a inch lower .The onlyone worth bothering to get is the bigger battery version with glass roof which is about 42 ,ooo poonds . I still have the old 2016 kadjar signature autobox with a glass roof , 23 ooo when new and giving about 60% round town driving 38/39 mpg and over 400 miles a tank full ,if taking in long runs , (real world driving) . The kadjar insurance is 13 e , for the new one it will be over double the cost and more. Sadly my wages havnt risen by the 80 % cost of the new scenic kadjar.
Ps Scenic names about 2 decades old and it was for a people carrier, so a bit confusing as this is Suv type . The 20 inch wheels look cool 😎 but it effects the ride when going over road imperfections especially road bumps and potholes here in the south , so its every minute then .
Maybe worth waiting for a 15- 18 mth old one at 30 k .
Good to have easy access to turn assistance off but try it before you do. Renault have done a very good job and they are less aggressive and annoying than other brands.
Really nice like Renault scenic cool car nice ride thanks for brilliant stuff videos review 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Things will get interesting when renault brings this to Australia, probably in about a year. I think they should bring it faster than that. Because right now the Model Y dominates the market space and Australia doesn't have VW SUVs, Ayria isn't here. If a buyer wants to buy from a trusted brand there isn't many options.
What is the real world range of the big battery. Will it go 300 miles in winter.
Who knows? AllI can say is that Renault assure me that the efficiency of the car has greatly increased over the Megane, which was my only real issue with that car over the 3 months I had mine.
There is a tool on Renault's site to answer your question, you can select the Scenic battery size, speed, temperature, driving mode, etc. I wrote a comment with the link hours ago but Google has just deleted it since sadly Google does not like links that send people outside of the Google environment.
The boot sill makes a practical model, completely useless. It is funny the Kona is tiny but with a flat load bay makes it easy to load big heavy items..
It's the only real bugbear I had with it. However I am assured that the UK cars will have a false floor to heighten it. Now whether that is an option, I wasn't told. But having lived with the Megane, it can be a nuisance, agreed.
Nice review, and nice car. I just don't agree when you say that the Scenic is cheaper than the Tesla model Y with a longer range (38:05). For the price I went on both configuration tools and with the same equipment the prices are the same. For the range it is a bit more complex, yes the range on one charge is higher with the Scenic, thanks to the bigger battery, but it is not what matters. On a daily basis 625 km or 535 km changes nothing since the average distance driven per day in Europe is 30 km, and I guess even less in the UK. And on a long trip, what matters is the charge speed or more precisely the time you need before being able to continue to the next fast charger or your destination, and then the Tesla definitely wins. And of course the Tesla has other arguments at this price, eg it is all wheel drive, there is a big frunk, the charge price and convenience (plug and charge) at Superchargers, the performance even if I agree that it is not the most important for a family car, etc. So it is nice to have this Scenic, I am sure that people who will buy it will be very happy, but the model Y is also quite a great choice for the family at the same price. Anyway, the more choice the better for a smooth transition away from fossil fuel.
Agree and the final decision is based on: I like it or not...
11:33 That tiny boot opening wont take my road/mountain bike, I'll keep my Skoda thanks. Good looks isn't enough.
That is a very fair point. I returned from Spain to drive the Skoda Enyaq again, and that certainly has the space in the boot length that the Scenic lacks.
The Renault in the tested version costs 55,000 euros in the Netherlands. The Tesla model Y euro 45,000. I still miss the power consumption during the test and the type of battery.
Are you sure about these numbers? According to the official website, this long-range Reanult starts at €48k(and the top spec is from €51.7k) and the long-range Model Y starts at €51k. These are the numbers from the companies official website . What is your source for the figures ?
Buying one will finance the political agenda of an insane complotist, extremist, racist, misogynist, dangerous narcissist sociopath...and the other will just get you a nice car....
@@Dqtube I guess prices are not the same in all countries. In France I just checked and *with the same level of equipment* the Renault and the Tesla are at the same price, even if the Tesla is AWD. But yes, the starting price is lower for the Renault, but it excludes quite a few things including the mobile charger.
Pontifications inline with you getting hold of more cars to review.
It's not a car enthusiasts vehicle, it's for people that hate cars!
Lovely car..I'm a badge snob however 😮
My opinions on looking at this and the Megane, if they dropped the boot sill 20cm it might be a very practical car. As it is, they're both useless to me.
Yes… that’s a problem with so many current EVs. MG4, Enyaq and even Niro’s boot sills are a good bit lower. ( Megane 840mm high, MG4 and Enyaq 730mm high, Niro 760, Astra 760, e308 770mm. Id4 780.
@@Mancozeb100 it's a shame they're all so high. Get it under 630 and it's on the list.
@@sIightIybored Seems there’s nothing EV out there that low - I yearn for my old Passat and Fabia estates. So does my dog !
@@Mancozeb100 630 isn't arbitrary, it's the height of my dog's chin and the tallest thing she will jump in!
Only EV's I know that would work are the various Van-MPVs and the rather expensive estates. Stellantis do both but the vans are too short ranged and the estates are horrendously expensive.
Also, where did you get your numbers from, I've not seen most of those referenced online!
@@sIightIybored Yep - my dog struggles a bit with the Soul - it’s bloody well 800 to the sill !
The figures - Was at an EV show in Dublin, a few weeks ago - like a proper nerd, I brought my measuring tape and measured as many car boots as I could! So, that’s some privileged information right there 😆
Road noise quieter than megane?
As quiet I would say.
For me the majority of French car designs don’t age well. You see them at launch and think that looks great but after a few years you see one on the road looking raggedy and think good job I avoided that!
Yet another perfect family car that starts at north of £41k, amazing how people have been conditioned into accepting this!!
No VTL or Frunk ?
Renault likes induction motors, they are cheaper but takes more space especially if powerful, idem as for Zoé, Mégane E-Tech, the future R5 E-Tech, etc. Induction motors also have no rare-earth elements, a good point if you believe it is bad to use something that for now comes mostly from China. And off course as for all EVs there are no are-earth elements in the batteries.
I read years ago that the Toyota MR2 never sold very well in France because if you say it quick it sounds like 'merde' 😂
From all the reviews I've read and watched, this looks like a massive hit for Renault - great in most respects but lacking in one or two. I would have liked them to really take on the competition with a longer warranty and like the Megane, they haven't thought about dog owners! Does nobody at Renault own a dog? I think I'd still go for the Model Y.
You want "dog mode" or just a flat trunk ? For the trunk I think they have an accessory to make it flat. For the dog mode maybe there will be an app since it is Google OS.
Preferably both but the flat floor and a lower entry are the biggies. The boot lip looks really high, hence the big drop to the floor - not good for dogs.
Sorry still in expensive iconic no memory seat for driver?!
Why those door handles that come out, I bet you one day they will be a fault where they're stuck in
I would say to improve aeronautic, and so better range, like with Tesla models S and X. But the Tesla models 3 and Y way is also quite good if you do not mind explaining how to open the doors each time somebody tries for the first time.
o YES THAT 60KW going to sell in huge numbers (abouth the same as the Enyaq 60 and ID.4) near none!!!!!!!!
You cant compare a nmc 60 ev to a 60 LFP ev! The lfp takes you 20% further daily.
And yes the Tesla model Y charges its 60 in around 20min....
So this 60 is going fail big time.
More expensive than its main rival Tesla model Y.
Lets hope renault got it charging speed in order this time (2024 needs to be below 30min)
And consumption need to be lower than the megane exspecialy on the highway
In other words this ev is years younger than a Model Y so it needs to be better on all points
if not
then Renault FAILED
Excruciatingly long... video... so long... Everything could have been said in 15 minutes. Though I guess that doesn't earn as much in TH-cam ad revenue. And to summarise from this and other (more time friendly, and several language posts), it's really, really good car.
Whilst I do appreciate that you may prefer a shorter video, let me explain why we choose to do this length of review. The automotive media space is a very crowded one, some with big names attached to them. How do we, as a very small, independent company get noticed? We go into greater detail. As an ex car salesman, I have spent years listening to customers in the showroom and understanding what they would like to know when buying a new car. So we try to cover those things in our reviews. Yes, it costs us views (which would earn us more money) and subscribers (again, we lose revenue by not growing as fast), but we feel it’s what stands us apart from every other automotive TH-cam channel.
This isn’t me being horrible to your comment, far from it, we welcome everyone’s viewpoint. But I just wanted to explain the rationale why we do these long reviews. If anyone is interested in buying a new EV, ten minutes won’t give them enough detail to understand the car. We go a bit more in-depth, and give more opinion.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. It is appreciated.
@@AutoEV I appreciate the length of these reviews, there is only one other channel that I know of that has longer reviews, although it is not as up to date as AutoEV, but I would not dream of mentioning it on this channel.
The amount of new cars and the ugly big screens on the dash. I’ll stick to my Golf TSI.
Good looking car but will it compete with China? Not sure your get a set of clubs across the back!
I see not being able to get golf clubs in a boot as a distinct positive!
2 isofix?? what a waste of a car, scenic used to target big families
Love the functions and interior but the for me the exterior not beautiful
Fair enough!
Yes first comment
Too big, too heavy and bad aerodynamics fail to make a good electric car.
Give me a ‘cluttered’ Renault over a stripped-out Model Y……….every day of the week.
Performance ?. Next question……
That is why it is good to have choice, because many people will prefer the "clean" model Y rather than the cluttered scenic. I guess it depends of what you expect from a car, being a "computer on wheels" is a frequent criticism against Tesla but it is definitely appealing to me. While I don't like the SUV shape of the Renault, the lack of a fruck, not being AWD at this price level, etc.
@@didierpuzenat7280 most of the world has to deal with roundabouts…….putting shareholder profit margin ahead of buyer expectations is something else that Tesla will own exclusively.
@@davidpearn5925 Ok, so it is about the turning buttons on the steering wheel ? I guess you get use to it. Or you can add new buttons and place them wherever you like (Google "S3XY Buttons").
…and yet Audi still uses ‘E-tron’ in France, which looks much like ‘TRD’ does in English.
But couldn’t such a new car have had a new name? ‘Scenic’ will always remind me of Man Down. Perhaps they don’t watch that in France.
It’s not a pretty car… it’s not even a beautiful car, its baby brother is much better looking… the Megane is much much better!
The meganes range is terrible though
Sorry it’s an attractive car
Actually very attractive
It’s a practical family car though (apart from the boot), and beauty is in the eye of the beholder anyway.
Totally disagree 😅 I think it looks nice.
Looks cheap and dreadfully ugly,. Definitely way over priced
Sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. Quality is fantastic on this car.
Over priced compared to what other EV ? A Dacia Spring ? Sure...
Employee of Tesla?
@@fradius1 I don't think Tesla needs their employees to make bad comments on other EVs. Most likely an anti EV guy (because of the not so clever price comment) who does not understand that humanity is composed of many people with different needs and tastes. Or maybe a troll with no real life, always happy to induce hate. Better ignoring it.
@@didierpuzenat7280 I also have a reserved about EVs (To expensive, to ugly, or a short range) but I really like what renault is doing here. And looking forward to order this as my company car in June :)