Australian vs Japanese Squads (1942) Who was Superior? | Animated History
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Allan, Francis C., et al. The Type 38 Arisaka: a Study of the Japanese Rifles and Carbines Based upon the Type 38 Ariska Action, Their Variations and History. F.C. Allan, 2007.
“Arisaka Type 99: Japan's Chosen Weapon.” The National Interest, 3 Jan. 2020, nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/arisaka-type-99-japans-chosen-weapon-millions-were-made-win-world-war-ii-110511?page=0%2C1.
“Battle of Ioribaiwa- 11 September 1942.” Australian Kokoda Tours, www.australiankokodatours.com.au/battle-of-ioribaiwa-11-september-1942.
Blumberg, Arnold. “Meet the Bren Gun: The Best Machinegun of World War II?” The National Interest, 24 Feb. 2019, nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/meet-bren-gun-best-machine-gun-world-war-ii-45437.
Handbook on Japanese Military Forces. U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1944.
Logan, Baron. “Australian vs Japanese Infantry”. 2020.
“Owen Gun.” Kokoda Historical, 22 July 2015, kokodahistorical.com.au/history/owen-gun.
Smith, Allan. “Kakoda Trail Details”. 2020.
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Videos on the Spanish American War, Philippine Insurrection, US Colonialism as a whole, and how Thailand & Iran remained independent would be totally rad. Thanks for your hard work!
do soviets vs germans in 41/42
Please make a video about the brave Indian and British Asian soldiers in Malaya and Singapore in ww2
It would be cool to see Finnish vs Russian
this really went well
The Australians were impossible to predict because instead of attacking from the front or the flank, they were always coming from upside down
underrated comment
This made me laugh hard, yeeee
And you enjoy approaching men from behind
here, take my like and leave
You deserve my like take it
I love the visual style, reminds me of some good old flash games!
yeah. a game called endless war or something.
Aww commenting for the TH-cam algorithm.
A wise man once told me to do that
It also looks very similar to Mud and Blood. Looking at the bodies, they look like they were taken from another game called Skirmish Line, which is basically a homage to the Mud and Blood games.
Oh damn it's MDB! Do an Aussie Only FireRed Playthrough pls?
@@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman Just doing my part!
You know you're screwed when the bushes start speaking Japanese, trees start speaking Vietnamese, mountains start speaking Albanian, snow starts speaking Finnish, and the white guy with a gun has an Australian accent.
Shouldn't it be a white guy with a knoife
@@Pikkabuu Ahhh, yes mate. You're correct. The white guy with a gun is an American! How could I forget?!
Especially the white death is scary asf
When the rail tracks are speaking french, when the car starts speaking Celtic
Water starts speaking korean
My grand father fought in Kokoda against the Japanese, his told me some scary story’s of lack of ammunition while being out numbered, yet they still managed to hold the line, sometimes it was so bad he had use Japanese rifles just to defend himself, he told me one story how he went over just to grab rifle, but unfortunately it only had two shots, he done it 3 times just to fight and the story’s of leeches bigger then you can think off after the war he became a paramedic his truly my hero and the definition of a warrior he lied about his age and he wasn’t even in the regular army the only experience he had was shooting rabbits.
respect for your grandpa
he* stories* lacking* to use/used* did* stories* than* of* he is*
@@Correction_Guy It's funny that you call yourself the "Correction Guy", considering how much grammar you still missed.
@@timothykidd8995 it is funny that either way, native english speakers just do these kinds of simple mistakes, considering that english is my second language
and if you're so up for the task, or you're just this salty, then go on ahead and take my place.
Shooting rabbits counts. Actually killing living things makes you less likely to hesitate when you need to do it for keeps.
“G’day bois.” Best opening of a gun I’d even seen.
(Edit)
Ikr
Timestamp?
@@nintendostyle3500 4:59
Sorry for the misspell chaps.
Bruh
Just to think these Aussies the Japanese encountered during this skirmish were reservist soldiers and not even the regular Infantry!
Its so overlooked how young and inexperienced they actually were, they really deserve more credit
They were called Chocolate Soldiers, because it was expected that they'd melt under pressure, They soon proved their superiers wrong.
@@SirDaffyD Its men like that that really make me proud to be Australian
@@SirDaffyD Courage, Valour and determination in the worst possible terrain in a storm knee height in mud.. Lest We Forget
I’m an ex regular Infantry soldier who served in the Royal Australian Regiment and to this day reservists still get called Choco’s ? Bizarre
At that time Papua New Guinea wasn't an independent country yet, it was under the territorial protection of Australia. During WW2, under Australian law conscripted soldiers could not be ordered to fight in areas outside Australian territory, but since PNG was under Australian territorial protection, it was considered to be "Australian territory", so Australian conscript soldiers were sent there.
Given that the Australian recruits that drove the Japanese back were still very green, they did an amazing job. The Allied command had ordered the battalion commander to send his troops into Gallipoli-style charges. Major Bill Potts, himself a Gallipoli veteran knew better. Under his command, not only did they stand a better chance of survival, they drove them back a LOT faster than the Allied command were expecting. Major Potts was relieved of his command for insubordination, yet his troops would have followed him to hell and back.
It was the Japanese who were outnumbered at Kokoda.
Some comments: The Australian troops were AMF, not AIF and were used as labourers a lot at Port Moresby, so didn't have the training of the AIF. However, the officers DID train the 39th battalion to a reasonable standard. (Not, unfortunately, the 53rd.) The Allied command did NOT order them into Gallipoli style charges, although the command had extremely limited understanding of what the conditions were actually like on the Kokoda Track. The commander was Brigadier Arnold Potts, not Bill Potts. The Australians did NOT drive the Japanese back a lot faster than the Allied command expected. Firstly, the Japanese forced the Australians back as far as Ioribaiwa Ridge before the Australians could go on the offensive and then push the Japanese back to the north coast. In fact the Australian advance was quite slow. Yes, Brigadier Potts was relieved of his command, but not for insubordination, rather because General Blamey thought that he wasn't doing a good enough job. (Blamey didn't have a clue as to the conditions of fighting on the track.) And, yes, the Australian soldiers did have a very high regard for Brigadier Potts. And, yes, I have been there.
@@anthonyeaton5153 That is incorrect. The Japanese landed at Buna with about 10,000 men. The Australian battalions were the 39th, the 49th and the 53rd with about 1,000 men each. That is, 3,000 men.
@@markshaw5159 The Bayonet strength of an Ozzy battalion was more like 400-500 on the Kokoda track. four companies of 100-120. B eschlon troops were back at Moresby.
@@graemesydney38 Why are you Australians so absorbed by rifles and bayonets. Ever heard of artillery, armour and above all logistics not to mention airpower.
As someone who is half Australian, half Japanese, it was great experiencing my identity engage in suburban jungle fighting with itself.
💀
How'd you go mate😅?
You must have been fighting yourself///who won?
...It was the best of times, the worst of times...
"BANZAI!!!"
"QUEENSLANDAHHHHHHH!!!"
You be the judge
As a Queenslander
I agree
Banzai in my opinion is more agressive
@@hifella3411 Everybody's a warrior of the Emperor until somebody starts breaking bones with a can of Tooheys.
Respect, but as a New South Welshmen, I’ll be screaming CATTLEDOG.
@@willjones2788 I think we can all get behind one timeless war cry though. You know the rules... AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!!!
Even as an Australian, that gun showcase was the most Australian thing I've seen
This is absolute bull dust. The Japanese never even got to Port Moresby. The closest they got was Owens Corner about 30 KM away.
@@aussiedonaldduck2854 you do know they said its all hypothetical/fictitious SIMULATIONS right? Not actual events
@@kaizermierkrazy6886 Some artistic licence is fair enough but to completely change history???
@@aussiedonaldduck2854 they aren't changing history, they said its a military simulation in 3 different >>>fictitious
As an Australia
Fun fact, did you know that the Australians were a militia force because new guinea was an Australian territory, and they were called 'choccos' by Australian soldiers as they thought they would melt in the heat of battle. Yet the militia won. It's like a reverse Gallipoli.
Never heard that take on the PNG locals being called 'choccos', but it wouldn't surprise me, we've a tendency towards direct and insensitive communication coloured by black humour. I do however know the Papuan New Guineans were known as the 'Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels' due to their fuzzy hair and their tireless efforts in supporting the Aussies.
@@WayneLyons Aussie reservists were/are called choccos
@@WayneLyons The Aussie militia were called Chocos. The Ausralians in PNG loved the locals and both Papuans and Aussies looked after each other.
Australian Reservists are still known as Chocolate Soldiers or Choccos
@@WayneLyons it was a disparaging remark from the regular Aussie soldiers towards their fellow militia countrymen because they thought they would "melt in battle" like chocolate when it gets heated - nothing to do with the PNG locals!
My grandfather fought alongside Australians at New Guinea, he said they were the finest jungle fighters he had ever seen in his life, superior to the Japanese both at jungle and night fighting. He remarked that some Japanese units outright broke and ran when fighting the Australians.
Wow, what army was your grandfather in?
Lol yeah, sure
Cool. But the running part is what go me. Japanese soldiers never surrendered in any situation no matter what situation. They could be outnumbered and they still wouldn't. What army or regiment did your grandfather fight in?
@@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622 Eh, maybe. Running is not surrendering, not in any sense. Even the Japanese knew this.
@@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622The Japanese still surrendered on occasion, but it wasn’t done nearly as often as other nations.
People forget that the original Kokoda track soldiers were mainly reservists fighting with WW1 equipment. The real Australian professional army arrived later in the battle as much of the Aussie army was in North Africa facing Rommel. My father fought in New Guinea and he said the Japanese were good soldiers.
this is a good comment my grandfather said the same thing they were starving and were a fierce enemy
Well of cause they use to be Samari some of the most feared sword and tactic fighter's for hundreds of year's
@@kerw321 post-Meiji, the majority were civvies not nobleborn (which famously pissed off said samurai class)
John Curtin even brought Australian troops back from Africa to fight in New Guinea against the direct orders of Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill. When they arrived on the island they still had clothing camouflaged for the desert so they had to dye it a green colour so it would blend in with the Jungle better.
@Hoa Tattis he sure did.
Definitely Finish Squad vs Russian Squad
I'm for anything about the Winter War
I guess you can say the Russians got finnished!
White Army or Red Army Russians?
@@tricolpsm1196 |
Also, the communists literally froze to death in massive waves.
Ahhahahahahaahhahaha yeah
Half of my grandmothers family passed away during the battle of Port Moresby. Respect and love to all the diggers who fought valiantly, allowing her to survive until now ❤️
the aerial battle? the IJA never reached Port Moresby.
@@greenflagracing7067they prbably died in the bombardment
Anyway, I'm glad we are both on the same side now.
Especially with Xi JingWinnie to the north.
sure about that?
@@thespitefuldodger not sure about anything.
Any discussion of these clashes between Australian and Japanese forces has to include the contribution of the locals, nick named the "Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels"
sad to say i never had to opportunity to meet my grandfather, a commando who fought on the kokoda trail (he survived) but i have heard stories past down. he said he wouldnt have survived without the "fuzzy wuzzies" they were our greatest ally and deserve all the respect and more.
I went to Kokoda and met the descendants of the Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels, they’re absolute beasts
Actually it doesn’t because both sides used them so you can remove them from the equation
@@claydud271 the Japanese forced them into it, the Australians didn’t, many fuzzy wuzzys ran away from the Japanese, the bond between the Australians and Fuzzys was a strong one that still holds to this day
@@zonk4718 I mean that’s the historical view yea but the angels were kind of forced into helping aussies too, they didn’t want any part of a war. Ex army vet fyi
That Owen gun commercial was great, with the accent and everything.
I love this weapon
As an Aussie it was very cool but the accent was terrible
@@mrcoolkid5492 absolutely but the commercial was great
G'DAY M A T E
I was kind of disappointed it wasn't painted in jungle green and green-yelllow. Also I would love to have a fiar dinkum aussie re-dub the commercial.
Austrailians were their own “code talkers” as nobody else could understand them.
ahh yes the outback slang...sadly its dying out
@@TrenchCoatDingo yeah only in sydney, nothing has really changed much here in qld
@@TrenchCoatDingo the more regional/country you go, the more slang you encounter
@@TrenchCoatDingo Not 'dying', so much as being overwhelmed by hordes of foreigners and foreign languages.
Sometimes we don't even understand ourselves. Lol!
Imagine hunting the ANZACs on some island when the jungle says G'day mate.
"G'day, mate"*
@@Correction_Guy y?!
........A tiny kangaroo down sport ,tiny kangaroo down, sing a long little kiddies, two little boys with two little toys each had a wooden horse.....
Cue TF2's "Meet the Sniper" theme song.
sniping's a good job mate
@@kye6375 Challenging works,outdoors
@Anar TURBILEG [08C1] what's the difference?! The difference is one's a job and the other is a mental sickness
Magnum Force?
Yes
Japan never invaded mainland Australia because they were afraid of their neighbor’s Bob Semple Tank
It's just to powerful
Emus: Am I a joke to you?
@@CaptainKapitan They fear the Emus even more.
That was low^^
They actually did send small force but no joke they where all killed by the environment
“and still be ready to beat Tojo and his goons back to the Islands” Brilliant
As a British citizen am it's proud to learn about the dear old friend our friends inww2 rip in all of them
It’s great to hear from our Preferred Old Mates!
"As a British citizen, I'm proud to learn about our dear old friends who rip them all in World War 2"*
and I'm disappointed to see your grammar
@@Correction_Guy sorry never went to school,was up to no gd in girls kickers and nicking off the rich people
@@JohnHamilton-kq4bb Dang
@@Correction_Guy username checks out
Dear armchair historian, please give us an episode about the Falklands conflict
Cries in salty Military Junta
Mate, we know who wins automatically
Plz
True
That would actually be pretty cool
I can imagine the Australians would think on the go and adapt quickly to any situation that presents itself. They underestimate the fighting spirit of an Aussie.
Not surprised when you see the beautiful country we live in that constantly challenges us
Look up the Battle of Long Tan in Vietnam. Outnumbered 10 to 1, they had stumbled across what they estimate to be 1500-2000 NVA and or VietCong forces (nobody can be 100% sure, but there were a lot of blood trails leading out of the jungle) they numbered some 108, with three Kiwi artillery. They drove them back, with few deaths or casualties. It's said that after that encounter, the enemy Vietnamese forces never engaged Australians or Kiwis again in open combat. They called them "ghosts" for their ability to sneak up, and engage in guerilla warfare, the very tactics they used against US forces
@@Mechknight73 that movie did a good job at portraying that battle
@@wrynightraven5255 I read the detail of that battle from the commander of that battalion, Major Harry Smith. He wrote a book on it, from his earliest days in the army up to finally getting the recognition his troops deserved
@You are correct But True, they didn't have the kind of firepower at their disposal that the US military has, but they have a long tradition of improvising and doing things efficiently. Here's an example from the Iraq war:
An Australian unit had the job of cleaning out some insurgents from a cement plant on the outskirts of Bagdhad. The commander of the unit got his translator on the bullhorn: "We're going to give you five minutes to surrender peacefully. If you come out in that time, with your hands on your heads, you will be taken into custody as prisoners of war, but won't be harmed. If you choose not to come out, we will come in after you with maximum force." The Captain called in a favour from the USAF. He told the pilot of an F-18 Hornet to fly over the plant, and break the sound barrier as close as he can to overhead to it as he can. He got it near perfect to overhead. When a plane breaks the sound barrier, the sonic boom is VERY loud. The insurgents all walked out with their hands over their heads, without firing a single shot
What they did to P.O.W.s was a fucking disgrace, and they call themselves noble? Those that managed to survive the beheadings and being used for bayonet practice, whilst being forced to work until you died of disease or starvation, those men who came home were never the same again, many turning to drink, and dying way before their time. My grandad fought them in Burma, but never spoke about what he did or saw, and succumbed to the effects of alcohol long before he reached old age, we buried him at 50.
Exactly. Hypocrisy at its finest
You need your own TV show. The level of depth in these videos are crazy. Really makes me appreciate we can get these videos for free. Thank the sponsors!
One factor not apparently considered here was the use by the Australians of local Papuans in the Papuan Infantry Battalion. These people has thousands of years experience in the jungle, and attached as scouts to Australian units, meant the Japanese had zero chance. I remember as a cadet at school, seeing boys from PNG, thinking I would not want to come up against them.
To be fair, they didn’t consider the Japanese having Type 99 Grenade dischargers and the fact that their squad would actually be bigger than the Australian unit. What also wasn’t considered is that the IJA usually had supremacy in actions related to the bayonet; they prioritised such training and while their fire was inaccurate their bayonet training remained superior to that of the enemy. Japanese troops were, for example, trained to literally disarm an opponent with the bayonet. Still a solid video despite its flaws though
The fuzzy wuzzy angels carried all our food and munitions up the track and our wounded back down. They were critical in our troops being able to push the Japanese back to Buna and into the sea.
@@wejwedge8137 in n a war where machine guns, rifles, tanks, planes, battleships and aircraft carriers are used.......I can understand how advanced bayonet training would be a burden.
Am I to suppose a Roman legionary is superior to a G.I because he's a better swordsman?
@@christianbateman2 You're ignoring the rest of the statement lol
@2017 Student WONG JUN JIE ANTHONY with aircraft... No Japanese infantry ever set foot on Australian soil.
"Heaven is Java, hell is Burma, but no one returns alive from New Guinea"
-IJA Soldiers
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI!!!
Wassup Kaiser
God help the Japanese if they ever came to Brazil
Java was amazing. My great grandfather was stationed there. It was tropical beaches, sunny weather and no gunfire. All local populus had given uo their weapons and were generally supportive of the Japanese, who helped aided local nationalist movements. On the other hand, Burma, or more specifically North-East India, was a hellhole, as the Brits poured Indian after Indian to patch their mounting casualties in the face of an entrenched Japanese. New Guinea? That place is hot, rainy, and muddy. Even if the enemy does not kill you, tropical diseases will.
@@stoggafllik Guadalcanal
@@nathanialramirez160death sentence
One of Japans biggest weakness was their willingness to fight to the death when withdrawal was probably the wiser option. Also it was really a battle of the supply lines. The Japanese supply lines were stretched to breaking point by the time they reached the outskirts of point Moresby. I guess the Japanese defeat in PNG can be summed up with two adages. One, is that it is better to run away and fight another day and two, an army marches on its stomach.
Your comment is possibly the most accurate of many that I have read to this post. Most comments are just rubbish. Yes, the Japanese fought to the death because of their cult of Bushido so they would not surrender. Yes, really good comment that it was a battle of supply lines. They didn't actually get to the outskirts of Port Moresby. They got as far as Ioribaiwa Ridge, which is the second last ridge before getting to the lower ground which would then be a straight run to Moresby. Yes, Napoleon's comment that "an army marches on its stomach" is very true. Your comment was one of the best that I've seen amongst all the other rubbish.
Good points. May i add that the Japanese had conquered all foes before fighting the Australians in PNG and naturally used tactics that had won them many victories. But the Australians thought if they don't fight smart and hard then Australia will get invaded. Another unknown element is that the Australians used in PNG were militia and were considered second grade to those fighting in the northern hemisphere. Many had ailments that stopped them getting drafted in the early days of the war and their ages were mostly 30-40 and i think this adds wisdom to the team rather than young bravado of Japanese 21 year old soldiers..
@@stanlyqbrick1621 Yes, but can I take issue on a couple of points in your post. True, the Australian soldiers in New Guinea were militia (A.M.F.) not A.I.F and they were badly under-trained. However they were not 30-40 years old. Most of them were in their early 20s. Yes, there were some older men but, as noted in his book "Kokoda" by Paul Ham, "- -their average age was closer to 23-24." Some were as young as 17, however he does also note that "there were quite a few 30-somethings". A bit of a mixture, but the average was in the 20s. Also, I don't think that we should refer to the bravado of Japanese soldiers. The Japanese were VERY experienced. They had been fighting in China and Manchuria since 1937. It wasn't bravado. The Japanese had instilled in them the cult of Bushido. It is interesting that their officers treated their ordinary enlisted men very harshly so the Japanese soldiers were hardened. But that's not bravado. It's fear of failure and fear of their officers.
I was in The Royal Australian Infantry - 5/7RAR and proud of it!
5 want to core transfer and the other 7 want to discharge
@@ceejfletcher I was there in 1985... so nothing has changed eh?
@@martinbirrell57 ha ha did you know Brett Bondfield, Walshy ?
@@ceejfletcher yes pretty sure about Walshy what company was Bondfield?
@@martinbirrell57 not sure. Anti armour. Walshy went to 4
White Army vs Red Army : Russian Civil War : Include Orthodox Christian references for historical accuracy
BASED
Well, beyond some of former imperial generals (many were in Red army also)and veteran soldiers and Antante help in materials,white guard didn't had better weapons although 1:1 their forces were better organized although there wasn't a clear ideological motivation beyond fighting communists.
@@kaletovhangar Too true, the Whites were so divided, they never had a chance. If just two White armies had managed to unite for an attack on the Red heartland, that would have been it. Among other things, Lenin pulled the very clever stunt of offering self-determination to the ethnic minorities of the Soviet Union, which besides unifying the Reds even more probably prevented the fall of the ethnicaly diverse Petrograd to a White attack.
what could be really cool (although likely way too speculative) would be the white russians remnants that fought for japan in manchuria against the soviets in ww2: white russian veteran mercs vs soviet manchurian troops, or maybe chinese nationalists/communists
@@squamish4244 Very interesting. I read that Azerbaijan was independent from 1920 to 1922 until Lenin decided to invade because he said the SU couldn't survive without Baku's oil.
As an American, I’ll say we love our Aussie brothers & sisters!
Thanks mate like wise, especially the hell we went through in vietnam.
@@oldschoolfoil2365 Same back at our American cousins, friends and allies forever
Lol what about Japan???
@@aotearoa24-79 Love them too now, great people, just one generation ago, my father would have killed them on site, its not people that are enemy's, its politics
Don't forget about the kiwis mate
Keep in mind that us Aussies don’t use the word squad but rather section.
They correctly called it a "Section" instead of Platoon most of the time, which is the term the British and Australian Army use. There are two sections to a Platoon instead of 3 Squads to a Platoon.
@@williamzk90834 sections to a platoon mate.
The Japanese never got to Port Moresby, so there was no street fighting, as described in your introduction.
How bout a video about British vs Italian Squads in the North African theatre. (After Rommel took control)
before & after
@Forsaken Pumpkin ok
@Forsaken Pumpkin ok champ
Us Australians saved u in the African front
@Forsaken Pumpkin tell em
Chinese Nationalist vs Chinese Communist vs Japanese infantry squads in a future video, please!
That would be awesome, but I think their weapons and tactics where similar
German-trained KMT troops or Sun Li-Jen's CEF men will win. The communist core based in Yan'an participated in little conventional fighting so the contest is meaningless. Anyway, love or hate the CPC, there's no denying that various Communist-leaning partisan groups did contribute materially to the war.
Very hard to find info about Chinese during 2nd sino war..............
Most of the Chinese infantry squads back then had nothing but rifles with extremely low ammunition supplied. The comparison would be meaningless.
Next one: Aussie infantry vs Emu infantry
It was only a few soldiers that were used not a whole platoon! lol
@@NathanChisholm041 you must be a blast at parties
hahaahahahah nice
@@madville9039 Hey dude, stop being salty about a guy talking facts. Ok?
Phukkin emus. 😡
The only channel we can't be mad about sponsorships.. actually makes them entertaining, and it's clear the money has improved the channel's animations exponentially - love them!!
Edit :
How to win again Australia
Rule one : Make Alliance with emus, spider, deadly toad, and buldog ants
Rule two : destroy their Vegemite and flip-flop supplies
Rule three : destroy the bob sample tanks before landed in Australia
Rule four : Train your hand grip in
case Australia become upside down
Rule five : make Bali become your prison so when an Australian captured you can bribe them to go to bali with exchange of information
Remember that the Emu won more wars then the Nazi's in ww2
The aussie sure do their job.
Emus will win ever day
Only a fool would ally themselves with the Emus. The Emus have imperialist ambitions for global domination and would surely backstab you when you no longer serve a purpose.
Yeah your right
Fun Fact: The owen gun was made by a 24 year old named Owen Evelyn in 1939 and wasn't accepted because the Australian government didn't like the idea of submachine guns. He put it away in a sugar bag until it was found by his neighbor and he soon talked to Owen's father who explained the gun and then Owen who at the time was about to be deployed to the middle east. Soon after trials with the gun, it was accepted by the Australian army
Hopefully he got a pretty penny off of the patent
His name was actually Evelyn Owen ;)
@@darkjak224 he was paid 10 000 pounds in royalties and the patent rights ... but sadly died in 1949 aged only 33 due to a heart issue
THe neighbour was a senior engineer at Lysaght Australia and he another Lysaght employee continued with it's development. The Army kept changing the calibre requirement to delay having to consider it as they were waiting "real" weapons from Britain that never came. They were eventually forced to consider it by M.S.M. pressure, and found it outstanding and more reliable that the British weapon. Lysaght effectively made nothing from its productiojn or development.
My Great-Grandfather was a Lieutenant during New Guinea, Godspeed
It’s worth noting that in actual fact the Aussies mounted many more ambushes than the Japanese in the early part of the campaign. This was because the Australians were performing a fighting withdrawal until reinforcements could arrive fresh off the ship from fighting Rommel in North Africa.
The Japenese pulled off more sucessful ambushes during that campaign they were beating the militia and when the regulars came it was the same, what saved the aussies was the american airforce sinking the port morseby invasion force out at sea making the objective of the kokoda force irrelevant .
Aussie's have always punched above their weight in any war
see Vietnam, when the Viet Cong knew they were up against Aussies they'd retreat
they lost a war against emus
@@planethunter8558 have you seen Emu's? They're terrifying, they run straight through bullets like they're nothing
@@planethunter8558 Ah yes the great Emu Wars of 1932 we had to retreat due to an onslaught of overwhelming enemy superiority leaving field's of grain to be decimated in their wake. It was said of the Emu's that "They can face machine guns with the invulnerability of tanks." Major Meredith
not because they wanted to though. Gallipoli was not Australia's war, Singapore was a F and Vietnam was literally nobody's war.
Edit: and btw the ottoman empire is arguably at the same level as the Australians.
the japanese never got to port moresby but they could see the lights in the distance at night
Hypothetical simulation
Why?..... it was primarily a Jungle conflict so is a moot point to compare urban warfare tactics
@@hpep9159 they could've just used the failed Battle of (I forgot, but I remember there was another battle near Port Morrisby... Milne Bay?)
@@koka1571 true, but the thing people dont get or dont care to listen to is what he says, so im just saying what he said
@@hpep9159 painfully true
I love this style of video! Can't wait to see more!
Both my grandfathers fought in PNG, one on a minesweeper and the other driving an ammunition truck up to where the troops were and driving the wounded back. Some of the stories he'd tell about them creating makeshift bridges over massive drops in the treacherous mountains made you wonder how he got back alive. It's our inventiveness to make things up on the fly that works in our favour. Both of them praised the indigenous people of Papua New Guinea for their courage and assistance.
My grandfather told me the locals we’re really good a spotting ambushes and often alerted soldiers when entering the area giving diggers opportunity to get the drop on ambushers
Next one could be Finnish vs Russian?
Release the Ski Troopers!
Njet mollotof
Nothing to Finnish 😆
Which year? In 1939-1940 Finland stomps,in 1943-1944 not so much.
Snow Wars
Funny fact is that the Japanese sometimes urinated on their ammo to “poison” the bullets, but due to the heat and speed of a bullet it wouldn’t even stay on
so they ultimately fell sick because they were handling bullets wet with piss
Piss is sterile.
that is a stupid myth whoever came up with that and if you are stupid enough to beleive it is true then you would probably believe that a bloody dingo stole my baby . Seriously cobber do you think you would be able to fire a bullet with urine around it without jamming the rifle ?
I like the animations and voiceovers. The Aussie ones capture the accent of the time.
The owen gun was actually still used by australian troops in vietnam
Wait what were that doing in Vietnam?
Sorry, why were they in vietnam?
@@yanceyricks2601 the USA asked us to, to oversimplify. We’ve been alongside the US in nearly every conflict since WW2, to varying degrees.
Thank you Josh for your time.
@@Girvo747 Funny thing is that we were in WW1 & WW2 before the yanks
It would be nice to see some "Filipino guerrillas vs Japanese squads in 1944"
Our Australian men suffered a lot of casualties and problems throughout the war that were caused by British leadership (as usual), did poor leadership from foreign officers become a problem for Filipino soldiers as well, just curious, I’m assuming it was just us mostly but I know near nothing about how the war played out for Filipino soldiers
They are skilled but no match to the Japanese since the Japanese is more experienced at war.
Im a filipino but there’s no way our civilians could match actual trained regulars in a firefight.
@@retardcorpsman yo I'm Filipino too. One example of the Filipinos will to fight is when US soldiers and Filipino Guerillas fought the Japanese in the Raid of Cabanatuan where they were able to free 500 POWs while being outnumbered.
And yes the Japanese are more experiencded. But that's why the Filipinos went for guerilla warfare which is unconventional warfare.
You gotta be more specific than "Filipino Guerillas" though, since there is a lot of them. The few I could remember are the Huks, some US-backed guerillas, muslims, and even a Chinese one believe it or not.
We need more of this series!
Great episode! I really enjoy the vs squads series
Yes. Thank you so much for breaking the stereotype that we Aussies got our arses kicked until the Americans came to help. I appreciate this video so much because The Australian story of the Second World War never really gets mentioned.
as far as new Guinea its fair to say it was the other way round, the yanks got slaughtered even after we told them to shut up and don't be so obvious.
i think this video is kindof biased, in the ambush they would have been cut down rather easily
Yea, lets thank McArther for that bullshit.
How he got away with calling us cowards and then getting his own US marines killed after we warned him that it was sucidial idea, is beyond me.
@DaFuzzBearYTYou know the USA lost Guam right?
You lost more land than Australia did.
@DaFuzzBearYT...then you should know about the fall of Singapore and how the british forces were not winning.
While germany stood australia was in danger after its fall the western forces could full focus on the japanese.
No sole country turned the tide in the east.
Japanese when the situation becomes desperate:
welp, let's charge to our death despite us having ammo in our guns
had to save ammo for the soldier behind to pick it off the dead body Ez ammo conservation
@@13_kg05 I know you're joking, but it sounds kinda suicidal to try to loot the ammo off a dead friendly soldier. They died because an enemy had eyes on their position. I wouldn't want to spend a few seconds in that position, let alone a minute or two for looting.
Unlike westerners dying in combat for them was a great honor
@@thecoder7817 it is in western society aswell, we just don't value pointless sacrifice, rather ones that actually make a difference.
@@readmore8302 Yeah and neither did the japanese.
Those infamous banzai charges were usually done by stranted japanese soldiers, out of food and ammo, who had no other way of fighting anymore.
Western troops in that case would surrender
Really like how the animation quality has improved while still keeping the original style.
The Owen's gun was built by a 16yo in his shed for fun, when he turned 17 he enlisted. His neighbor found the gun in a sack while doing yard work and used his connections as a manufacturing plant owner to get the gun into army trials and get the kid returned to the mainland to work out the kinks. The gun was lighter, several times cheaper, and infinitely more reliable in the jungle than the american Thompson, but it had a slower fire rate and was less accurate. It was open bolt design to remove mud while firing and had the magazine mounted upside down to assist in feeding if the magazine spring rusted. It was so loved by aussies in the field that they would trade their higher quality Thompsons for this pipe gun.
The Thompson was also open bolt. And the rate of fire wasn't much higher than the Owen. Owen 700 rpm Thompson 7-800 rpm.
check out 'forgotten weapons' you tube channel for a full review of the gun
Australian here, I'll take the Thompson.
@@whiterabit09 Oh yes. The Owen was good but the Thompson was better.
@@Nooziterp1
I Take the one that will Work.
Japanese NCO: BANZAI!!
Assistant Section Commander: Oi, me Owen gun goes brrrrr
They tried Banzai charges against the Red Army in Manchuria in 45'. I wondered what happened to them when the charged squad was a Soviet all SMG and Flamethrower assault team.
@@longyu9336 gone, reduced to atoms
Dolphin- me go eeeeeeeeeeE
Assistant section commander?
Don't you have corporals or lance corporals in the promised land?
japanese: ah I do love drinking green tea without getting disturbed
Australians: *g' day*
I*
Meat Pie grenades and Emus
read it in tf2 snipers voice
G’day *mate
G'day ya punta
I didnt expect to see these type of videos back !
Japanese soldier: pulls out katana
Aussie: THATS NOT A KNIFE, * pulls out the biggest hunting knife ever* THIS IS A KINFE
*pulls out spider*
Japanese soldier: *gulp*
you mean "knoif", I am sure. And I've got a movie scene to rewatch now...
Mandela Effect in action:
Dundee actually said: "That's a knoife"
*pulls out Crocodile*
Japanese: we have one of the strongest army in the world.
Australian: that's nothing with our secret weapon.
* Emus have joined the chat *
I heard the Australians 38th milita regiment had a bugler with only one arm
Your forgetting Jerry the Huntsman spider he got 200KIA’s with he Owen gun mate
Nah we just had Bazza who was medically unfit for the AIF and armed with a rifle built for WWI... he kicked their arse
Huh?
Drop Bear division standing by!
202,000 Japanese lost their life in the PNG campaign.
7,000 Australian and 5,000 American fallen heroes.
@The Armchair Historian Would love to see your take on the entire WW2 Pacific campaign. Particularly the early stages in New Guinea. Some of the toughest/ most grueling conditions of the war and some interesting stories that arent often explored. Thanks
When I did my jungle warfare training with Aust Army (a long time ago). There was a great focus on booby traps, proper ways to clear a village, patrolling and jungle fighting tactics and so on. It was some tough training. On several occasions I took some action that resulted in an instructor screaming at me, 'Your *** dead'. I learned a lot. Watching your video made me really appreciate that this training we received was really born of very hard lessons, learned by those who had gone before us.
Tully?
Canungra?
I would like Prussian vs french troops.
Or Finland vs Russia in the Winter War
@Yonis Elias yes, israeli and korean wars
I think the point of all these comments are is that we love the infantry comparison videos. Tbh it shouldn't end at infantry, tanks, aircraft, and navy exists but still, the fans shouldn't overstress him on videos.
i would like that to
Finland vs Russia in the Winter War would go like this:
Russian: All the gear they have
Finns: All the gear Russians have, because Finns are Orks and everything not nailed down is looted.
Never let your mate's down is a major factor in any conflict that involves Aussies
39th Battalion and the other Battalions in New Guinea save Australia.
My grandfather serve in the 39th as a Sub-Machine Gunner, he was one of the few members that where able to walk out under his own power after the Kokoda campaign.
Bless his service
Wow. Im surprised not more ppl aren't watching live. I love this channel
I just have school to do homie
Us on the other side of the world were most likely sleeping.
I just want to say thank you for making this video. My grandfather fought the Japanese in New Guinea during the Second World War and it makes me proud to see him and his mates being recognised for their contribution in the Pacific theatre.
The hard lessons learned in ww2 by the Aussies in Jungle fighting eventually helped them in the long run. They then went on to fight in Malaya and Indonesia among other jungle environments then to Vietnam where the experience passed down over the decades helped them greatly. It also resulted in tensions between US and Aus forces because of the way the US fought and conducted patrols was extremely "poor" in the eyes of Aussie diggers which led to them getting their own area to control and secure
The problem was, even contemporary Australian historians agree that the Aussie way of doing things would take a long time to work overall. Time which neither Australia nor the US had. It's also well to note that the US strategy of scrub bashing, while considered poor by Aussie Diggers, resulted in a far higher death toll for the NVA and VC. The other issue is, Vietnam wasn't Malaysia. In Malaysia, the Commonwealth had almost every advantage over the extremely small Communist force opposing them, just under 9,000 fighters to be exact. This compared to several thousand Commonwealth troops backed by hundreds of thousands of Malaysian security forces personnel, and no direct shared borders with China, meant that the ball was always in the Allies court. Vietnam was a different beast entirely, and contrary to popular belief or myth, the US did adopt a lot of strategies and concepts employed in Malaysia. But again, Malaysia wasn't Vietnam. Even Australians admitted they had a lot to learn from the Americans regarding air assault operations, and coordination between large air and mechanized formations.
As the japanese troops stepped in, hoping for an easy victory, they suddenly heard an australian warcry "That helmet's gonna make a nice bowl for your brains!"
Thanks
Wow
How?
Ok
Your literally every where
Japanese narrator: "the surest display of your tactical superiority-"
Me: now *that's* comedy!
Underrated comment
*laughs in Sherman tank*
@@aclown36 Laugh in lunge mine.
LOL why don't you ask the british and the americans who surrender en masse in phillipines and malaya, losing to the forces smaller than them?
Yea but who won the war
A very well done episode, as usual. I’d love to hear the slang that was used by both sides in numerous conflicts.
Aussie squads were and are called sections, for one. Not slang, just the basic term.
Could you please do a video on the landings and capture of Lae? That’d make my year, as my great grandfather was there. Thanks mate.
Next Match? Japan vs Russia in the early war in Manchuria, I think it was.
Then Italians vs US in Sicily
French Resistance vs German Occupation forces
Yet again no history regarding armchairs. I am deeply disappointed with his channel and his team. I am thinking about filling a class action lawsuit for false advertising if you want to join on. /s
Edit: I do not know what the digity darn is going on in the comments
Edit 2: Have a great day!
yes
yeah i want the history behind leather armchairs
This is absolute bull dust. The Japanese never even got to Port Moresby. The closest they got was Owens Corner over 30 KM away.
@@aussiedonaldduck2854 i like cheeseburgers
@@aussiedonaldduck2854 I was placed in my grandmother's ashes as a small child
Owen submachine gun is a excellent weapon. Its top-loading magazine is naturally jam-proofed. With the help of Earth's gravity, feeding is so smooth. The worst disadvantage of the Japanese troops at WW2 was the lack of sufficient firepower in close-quarter battle. This is because their high command was often stupid enough not to understand the need of submachine gun in modern warfare. Japan produced only 8000 subgun on their own(type 100 of 8mm Nanbu rounds). Even though its unit production cost is far less than Arisaka Rifle. Their Arisaka Rifle was also unfit for rapid fire. Its bolt operation is too tight. You can never load & eject the rounds as it is shouldered(in contrast, British SMLE Rifle allows anyone 10-shots rapid fire from the shoulder with minimal training). Their army training doctrine made things far worse: Excessive emphasis of bayonet assault. So many of their frontline men were wasted while carelessly charging entrenched allied troops heavily armed with automatic weapons. During the fierce battle in the Pacific, Japanese soldiers were shocked by the immense power of autoloaders. And not a few of then started to use M-1 carbines and Thompson Subguns they captured in warzones. Even though their top command was dominated by dumb asses, there were some smart high-ranking officers with good foresight. When their paratroopers stormed Pelembang(oil-yielding province of Indonesia), in 1942, all of them were bearing automatics including 600 Thompsons they seized in earlier battle in the Philippines.
Please do more like this! reminds me of Deadliest Warrior.
Japanese: "our tactical superiority" *charges in big groups with stabbing weapons at professional soldiers armed with multiple automatic weapons*
I doubt they had enough ammo for their entire army so they just went with the trusty stabby pointy stick apporach.
I can't believe they say heavy casualties when there's only 13 troops
Honestly Japanese soldiers where let down, by their industry. They were brave, well disciplined, and crafty with tactics. When all you got is a bayonet you kinda have to go for closing the distance.
@@SauGus05 Maybe they base it on what percentage of those 13 died? Haha I dont know.
@@dannyirish6526 I don't know either what I said was pretty fucking stupid
We australians are real proud of kokoda, those soldiers were mostly kids, and everyone thought that they couldn't handle themselves.
Im pretty sure that most of them towards the start were just Militia boys
@@coval5694 yup, choco's
They would be rollin in their graves if they saw Australia today!
Thanks for calling it the Kokada Track I appreciate it. Diggers was a good reference as well.
I love these style of videos.
Italians vs Brits?
North African Campagin is not really talked about
That isn’t fair considering how effective the British were in NA, I mean only Germany could beat them there.
I would rather talk about Burma theater
He made 4 videos on north africa
He did an entire 45 minute series on the wider North African campaign. It would be interesting to see a much smaller scale like this though.
@@razr-x9666 and Germany also lost to the British in North Africa
One little problem... I'm pretty sure the Owen wasn't in mass production till 1942 to 1943 and even then, there was an ammo problem. This wasn't rectified till 1943... This video sets them at 1942. So, the Aussies only had Thompsons, Brens and .303s.
The Japanese never reached Port Moresby, the only ones that had a glimpse of Port Moresby were pilots and POWs.
How about a lesser known match up?
Ex.
French vs Italian
Polish vs Germans
British vs Japanese
Finnish vs Soviet
Americans vs Japanese
Yugoslav vs German
Half of these are one sided
@@buddha3058 true
American vs Japanese is highly talked and known about so is Finnish vs Soviet
French vs Italian is an interesting one thoughh
Ooo I'd love hearing the Soviets v. Finnish I liked watch the Indy Nydel videos that he n his crew made to explain each day of the war
The virgin Japanese uniform Vs The chad Australian cargo shorts
I really like the Japanese uniform. Besides the Japanese also had shorts so...
@@sparrisguy6330 true, but they didn’t have working sub machines guns so...
@@God_Help_Me11 Yeah, Submachine guns were something the Japanese lacked, and while they had them (Type 100, Type 2) they were far to few to do any good.
Don't forget the hats, those big beautiful hats!
AND THIS MIGHTY LAND WILL PROSPER
As an Australian learning this at school this helped me
My grandfather fought on the Kokoda Trail as a radio man . Your video dishonors him with your inaccuracies!
Do Canadians v Germans in the invasion of the Netherlands or the Soviets v Germans
YES i want that too.
Who do you think will win in that comparison huh?
@Forsaken Pumpkin Can you elaborate on this? I'm not really familiar lol
@Forsaken Pumpkin what do you mean?
I think he did the battle of Arnhem, which involved the Canadian invasion.
Waiting for all the australians/japanese to turn up and tell him he can't make this video as he is neither one of them.
This is TH-cam, not Twitter
Adblock HitHer • 10 years ago take it you missed the Vietnamese drama?
Oh her lmao
@@maxie706 he is from a decade ago
@@dreadhead5719 Yeah she was trying to use her race as a tool
Soviet Army squad vs U.S Army squad
Year:1985
For the war that never occurred
I loved the bit about the owen gun.
They always talk about the trees speaking Vietnamese but they never talk about when the trees speak Japanese.
When you're in the trees but you hear the Australians coming
Tree speaking Japanese hardly worked out, because the tree speaking Aussies were better trained.
Because the trees dont speak in Japanese
They yell and will charge at you in Japanese
Big difference
Or when you are hearing the trees speak Australian
Or the trees speak Filipino