Wow i just discovered this channel. Amazing workshop you have put together, i am impressed by your dedication, skill and passion! I have just started chasing my dream of having a workshop of my own in my garage, if i could reach only half of what you have acheived with your workshop i would be delightful.
You probably know all the BS videos with the law of attraction... well I could say that having this shop is the only argument that it might work 😆 About 10 years ago I didn't yet had my first lathe, and I could have never imagined that I would be here. But yes, it seems that I am attracted to tools and the tools are attracted to me, so here we are! 😄 Do it in your pace, it does not matter how small the steps are, it will grow in time. I wish I had this long term drive for other stuff like eating healthier or working out, but I spend almost all my time thinking on how to build, something, how to fix something, how to improve something. I totally understand your dream, chase it! Its worth it! Thanks for the kind words! 🍻
Really nice build. So in Fusion it's pretty simple. you need to find the right Post Processor for your setup (Fusion Post processor Bibliothek) then you need to tell Fusion which part of your fourth axis ist turning and the center of rotation. When it comes to CAM you can then choose one face for your coordinate system and then in your for example facing operation you find something like align coordinate system, click the face that has to be perpendicular to your z axis and Fusion will align your 4 axis. that works with every operation type like drilling, 2d contour etc.
The thing is that the stock inside the vise, can be clamped more to the left or more to the right, if we assume that from a vertical perspective, its being clamped exactly in the middle. I am wondering if fusion should be aware about that left or right offset that the stock can have in the vise.
I already have modified the linuxcnc postprocessor to activate the 4th axis, its aware of it and it works well for round parts, my confusion is about the rectangular parts that are not exactly clamped on the center of the vice.
Nice looking setup ! When programming 4 axis machines i have found its far easier to set my Y + Z axis Zero in the center of rotation, that way you only need one datum. I've almost 40 years of experience programming and operating CNC machines, and that is most definitely the most practical way of doing it. It goes without saying that using the vice you need to ensure you set the part in the right place. Depending on your accuracy requirements, this can be as easy as putting in a 10mm dowel in the spindle and using that as a retractable stop. This would usually be accurate enough for a first operation.
Thanks for your comment! By ensuring that the part is in the right place you mean making sure that within the vise jaws, the stock is perfectly centered left to right?
@@LikeFactoryMade that is correct. obviously with the 3 jaw the part is self centering. i wouldn't be inclined to use the vise for 2nd operation on the 4th axis due to accuracy of location. either that or you reset your datum for every part on each plane you work on, which you realise is a nightmare and an accident waiting to happen.
Well done Vasi! I see you're getting better at CAD. Did the plasma nitriding modify the geometry of the piece in any way? (did it add or remove a couple of microns?)
Thanks! It did added a couple of microns, and since everything was already very tight fit, I had to take light pass with sandpaper on the alignment boss on the inside. Other than that, nothing was that tight to become an issue.
Find a datum ball or make one, and then probe and find the center of the ball in 2 points 180 degrees apart in A axis and then calculate the center of rotation. I have made a similar program for my 5 axis machine that calculates the center of rotation for the C, B axis and sets the G59. th-cam.com/video/orfUwBFwDgQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for your comment. I can calculate the center of rotation on the axis itself, but when I am clamping some stock, maybe the stock is not perfectly centered left to right within the vise jaws. Or maybe the vise does not clamp perfectly centered. If we take as example a piece of rectangular stock, its not clear for if the center of rotation is not exactly concentric with the intersection of the diagonals, how should I reflect that in fusion. If the center of rotation is the same with the intersection of the diagonals, in fusion its simple, the offset will be in the center of the stock. How about when the two centers don't intersect in the real life? How should I handle that in fusion?
@@LikeFactoryMade HI, in solidworks I have make a 3d drawing with 3 lines for x,y,z for the axis center of rotation and 3 lines for the part real location, I probe the part and set in cam the part the real position and use as work coordinate the center of rotation.
Very nice video. The new face plate is stunning!
Thanks so much! 😊
👍👍😎👍👍
I agree what you are doing is magical....... And your mastery of the English language is phenomenal!
Wow i just discovered this channel. Amazing workshop you have put together, i am impressed by your dedication, skill and passion!
I have just started chasing my dream of having a workshop of my own in my garage, if i could reach only half of what you have acheived with your workshop i would be delightful.
You probably know all the BS videos with the law of attraction... well I could say that having this shop is the only argument that it might work 😆
About 10 years ago I didn't yet had my first lathe, and I could have never imagined that I would be here. But yes, it seems that I am attracted to tools and the tools are attracted to me, so here we are! 😄
Do it in your pace, it does not matter how small the steps are, it will grow in time. I wish I had this long term drive for other stuff like eating healthier or working out, but I spend almost all my time thinking on how to build, something, how to fix something, how to improve something.
I totally understand your dream, chase it! Its worth it!
Thanks for the kind words! 🍻
Really nice build. So in Fusion it's pretty simple. you need to find the right Post Processor for your setup (Fusion Post processor Bibliothek) then you need to tell Fusion which part of your fourth axis ist turning and the center of rotation.
When it comes to CAM you can then choose one face for your coordinate system and then in your for example facing operation you find something like align coordinate system, click the face that has to be perpendicular to your z axis and Fusion will align your 4 axis. that works with every operation type like drilling, 2d contour etc.
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Post processor
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4th axis align workplane
The thing is that the stock inside the vise, can be clamped more to the left or more to the right, if we assume that from a vertical perspective, its being clamped exactly in the middle.
I am wondering if fusion should be aware about that left or right offset that the stock can have in the vise.
I already have modified the linuxcnc postprocessor to activate the 4th axis, its aware of it and it works well for round parts, my confusion is about the rectangular parts that are not exactly clamped on the center of the vice.
Nice looking setup !
When programming 4 axis machines i have found its far easier to set my Y + Z axis Zero in the center of rotation, that way you only need one datum.
I've almost 40 years of experience programming and operating CNC machines, and that is most definitely the most practical way of doing it. It goes without saying that using the vice you need to ensure you set the part in the right place.
Depending on your accuracy requirements, this can be as easy as putting in a 10mm dowel in the spindle and using that as a retractable stop. This would usually be accurate enough for a first operation.
Thanks for your comment!
By ensuring that the part is in the right place you mean making sure that within the vise jaws, the stock is perfectly centered left to right?
@@LikeFactoryMade that is correct.
obviously with the 3 jaw the part is self centering.
i wouldn't be inclined to use the vise for 2nd operation on the 4th axis due to accuracy of location. either that or you reset your datum for every part on each plane you work on, which you realise is a nightmare and an accident waiting to happen.
Well done Vasi!
I see you're getting better at CAD.
Did the plasma nitriding modify the geometry of the piece in any way? (did it add or remove a couple of microns?)
Thanks!
It did added a couple of microns, and since everything was already very tight fit, I had to take light pass with sandpaper on the alignment boss on the inside.
Other than that, nothing was that tight to become an issue.
Nice job. 👍
Thanks! And thanks for the gift! 🍻
Great ! What treatment did your friend applied to the part? I could heard well,... thanks
Reading below,.. it looks like you said plasma nitriding,...
Yes, plasma nitriding.
@@LikeFactoryMade Thanks for the answer !! I believe something like that must be what the macbooks have which makes them so tough,...
Will you make a tailstock for him ?
I already have a tailstock 😜 th-cam.com/video/oEBesGyjLsw/w-d-xo.html
Muito bom !
Find a datum ball or make one, and then probe and find the center of the ball in 2 points 180 degrees apart in A axis and then calculate the center of rotation. I have made a similar program for my 5 axis machine that calculates the center of rotation for the C, B axis and sets the G59.
th-cam.com/video/orfUwBFwDgQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for your comment.
I can calculate the center of rotation on the axis itself, but when I am clamping some stock, maybe the stock is not perfectly centered left to right within the vise jaws. Or maybe the vise does not clamp perfectly centered.
If we take as example a piece of rectangular stock, its not clear for if the center of rotation is not exactly concentric with the intersection of the diagonals, how should I reflect that in fusion. If the center of rotation is the same with the intersection of the diagonals, in fusion its simple, the offset will be in the center of the stock.
How about when the two centers don't intersect in the real life? How should I handle that in fusion?
@@LikeFactoryMade HI, in solidworks I have make a 3d drawing with 3 lines for x,y,z for the axis center of rotation and 3 lines for the part real location, I probe the part and set in cam the part the real position and use as work coordinate the center of rotation.
Nice work with the adapter