@@mihaimercenarul7467 WHAT how was shez bullshiting he literally complemented her the same way she did him then she got mad so he called out the hypocrisy
I dont like silent protags either. Byleth in 3 houses is probably the best way to do it, and even then i only tolerate it. Very intrigued to see more of them (well her in my case) later this month
@@abrahamdavidgonzalezgonzal364 I just said Corrin had a personality, not that the personality was any good. Even then, a bad or annoying character is more memorable than basically no character at all.
I love this dialogue *SO MUCH* . In three houses, when Lysithea had this kind of discussion with someone, she was so aggressive that the other person would often end up apologizing just to calm her down. That, or they would calmly explain to her that they weren't trying to be rude. Shez is one of the few who ACTUALLY fights back and calls her out for freaking up too much. You know, as an equal might do. The next supports are gonna be *SO* entertaining to see. I'm also interested in seeing what is going to happen once Shez discovers WHY Lysithea becomes so childish when talking about her age. Lysithea is by far my favourite character and this support is just *GOLD*
This explains why I often hated her in 3H, but LOVED her here. In 3H, she just walked all over everyone like an absolute jerk. But when Shez actually gets to snap back, she comes off simply petty, rather than cruel. It makes a big difference on her likeability, oddly
Right? Their comments weren't even diminishing or minimizing her intelligence. They're just stating they're impressed cause she's young and already very intelligent.
The fact that the actual part of Fodlan Winds what intensifies plays when Lysithea snaps after Shez calls her a kid is perfect it sent me rolling. She might be my favorite Deer along with Marianne but this was freaking amazing. Edit: nvm it’s tempest of seasons took me a few rewatches to find that out.
@@superbeta1716 When do you make choices like that? If I remember correctly, Byleth only had different flavors of yes and no responses. That would add nothing to a conversation at all.
@@superbeta1716 Cap, Byleth is an utterly lifeless character who gets shoehorned into the role of chosen one. Even them being a professor is a highly unusual circumstance that isn't really warranted. Not sure what you think is 'annoying' about Shez when he doesn't seem all that different from other FE protags. The biggest difference seems to be he doesn't hesitate to call people out on their bullshit which is honestly refreshing.
@@superbeta1716 With Byleth you have the other characters talking AT you for multiple lines on end, in an unnatural manner, with the player occasionally picking a dialogue option for the characters to react to, and go off for multiple lines again. Silent protagonists, even the popular ones, are rarely ever done well from a narrative standpoint and Byleth is no exception. Gutting 90% of the personality from a character so the audience can impose their own personality onto them, while it may improve engagement with the audience, will always be to the detriment of the character's actual writing. Established characters, even assholes, who functionally work just as any other character, will almost always be better. I hate using this word, but it's unironically cope when people act like Byleth, or many other silent protagonists, are actually good characters.
@@ThiefofCrystals I mean tbf Byleth's lack of qualification is part of the whole reason the game goes as it does, they're just shoehorned in there because Rhea couldn't think of a better idea, not because they'd be a good teacher (which is something forgotten halfway through the game, but still)
"Wow you're very mature, hard working and better than most people, *despite being a kid*" Lysithea is so self conscious about her age that even when she is compared to be better than others as a kid she flips out. But the icing on the cake is she also compared Shez based on age. G;ad somebody finally just outright told her she is younger, this is a fact. I totally forgot Petra is the same age as Lysithea, but she doesn't have any problems.
Mostly since lysithea is looking younger than petra, Claude teases her a lot and for some reason everyone mentions her as a child while no one does to Petra. But the main reason is frustration and desperation since she will die young, never grasping the life of an adult
@@mihaimercenarul7467 I know the dark stuff about her, it's just she is so self conscious she misses the point. And it's just strange that it took a whole-nother game for someone to tell her flat to her face like Shez does. Everyone else skirts around it or let's it slide due to 'teen years' like Raph does. I mean it's mature to do that, don't get me wrong but not a single person calls her out for it until now. It's kinda funny. I know it's cause she has limited time and is trying to keep the perception she's older so she can complete her goals easier when it requires others. But it gets to points where she almost wants to find a sliver of a reason to become angry about it. Despite showing many 'younger' qualities by her own definition.... like eating cake, something kids definetly only do.
Young women also start puberty sooner than guys do. That's why Petra looks older than Ashe or Cyril despite being around the same age. When I went to prom freshman year, people thought I was my prom date's younger brother. With Lysithea, she likely has body issues due to her short stature and appearance. Most characters in anime, manga, and games are actually around the same age as Lysithea. She's the same age as Ichigo from Bleach and Sonic the Hedgehog.
@@Admiralkirk95 that's one of her flaws, since she is mentally pressed by the thoughts of dying young, never grasping adulthood, rolling into a military academy not even for hers sale, but the sale of her family, puts a lot of pressure on her since she views herself as a vessel meeting it's expiration date. Of course she would like to life a full normal life, but she doesn't seem to realize how to achieve that, and focuses all her hours studying and training, sometimes eating cake as a coping mechanism, ignoring people believing that it would waste her time.
Haven't played Golden Deer in the demo yet. But this is brilliant. Shez does a great job at showing Lysithea that she does act hypocritical and childish.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 Yes, she is. She apparently praised Shez for what he does at such a young age. But acts like a maniac when Shez does the same and praises her. That's hypocritical.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 That's literally what the video above says! Even Shez says Lysithea is being hypocritical by praising his age when he can't praise her age. But whatever. Ignore the video, buddy.
It's hard to believe that Three Houses is going to be three years old this year. Time sure does fly. I'm glad to see Lysithea making the cut for Three Hopes.
@@autisonm Once you get the DLC there’s a “Side Story” quest you have to complete. Once it’s done go back to main story and they should be in an area called “abyss” you can get there by a shady guy right beside Byleth’s room. You can only get them before the war arc tho
@@petery6432 when I saw Byleth actually speaking with a VA and all I almost jumped in joy and the fact that they speak very little just makes it more amusing to see
Two years time skip makes her 17, the maturity in that varies in prospectives. Some say that’s a kid, some say that’s a teen, and in some places it’s legal. Lysithea, as lovely as she is, was being very immature here.
@@idreadFell365 I think Lysithea is a prime example of someone who has been forced to "grow up" a lot faster than she should, but she hasn't MATURED yet. she's had to cope with a lot but hasn't yet developed healthy emotional reactions or anything like that. it's why I like her, she's interesting.
This support in a nutshell: Shez: I didn't call you a kid on purpose Lysithea: Yes you did Shez: But you did the same thing to me though Lysithea: That's not the point
I love how it switches between regular and quiet when Shez and Lysithea are in control of the situation respectively (and swaps for each of them when they're neutral).
@@rakurai4953 idk like if the box art is anything to go by it's seems it's Arval VS Sothis or Shez VS Byleth. I think Byleth and Jeralt will be hired by the enemy side and the last battle might be something like Arval vs Sothis.
Shez really seems to bring out the character's flaws lol. Lorenz's conversation is pretty similar to this, with Shez calling him out for having a heavily oversimplified view on nobles defending the commoners.
I love lysithea and she’s a great character. But I’m so glad someone finally called her out on being a hypocrite. It’s good writing to point out a character’s flaws even if they have a reason for it
I definitely appreciate how Shez didn't back down or get flummoxed. It's unfortunately rare to see writers in the medium break trope. And now: "You know, an adult wouldn't get all stubborn and combative like this." "That's what Shez said XD"
Shez fixed all the problems Byleth had. I hated being able to choose what to say, but then having no voices lines for that said dialogue. And Shez has a personality.
I can't fucking breathe holy shit. The way the beat drops in the pause just as Shez calls her a child, the uno reverse card he pulls... Everything here is perfect, god bless.
@@SpeedDemonPowerage98 not going to lie in three hopes Lysitheas very slow compared to other magic users I've used all the units in mock battles testing them out and she's probably never gonna be used by me she is the equivelnet of the original warriors Corrin
Yeah he does and I’m saying that as a Lysithea fan. My girl just got absolutely roasted. And I’m not even mad about it either as I’m used to her childish and Hypocritical attitude.
I love Lysithea and she's a great character in many ways but sometimes this happens and it bothers me a lot that she immediately goes to the negatives when someone says something about her age or her behavior and she even gets slightly verbally abusive about it, I'm not trying to hate on her at all when I say this, it's just something that Isee with her.
Thats the reason i hate her so much. To me she is just a shittier version of Edelgard. She feels like a dollar store copy with self insert garbage added to her. The only Three Houses char i cant stand at all.
@@InitialsStudio In Three Houses there is some development you see in the post-time skip. The pre-time skip is learning about her and granted her background is pretty tragic so it is understandable where she comes from.
It's what keeps me from liking her tbh. Like I get it her backstory is sad and I feel bad for her for what the Agarthians did to her, but this attitude of hers and the way she snaps at anyone for the littlest thing makes me despise her.
I would rather say it's Shez who completely destroyed her and factually proved she's in fact immature here. She even shows that she has a very negative and disrespecting view regarding the child condition by directly assuming Shez means she's a literal baby by saying that. She could take that as a compliment if she wasn't so complexed about being compared to a child. That was quite funny though.
@@m.m.2341 I know I just didn't read the title correctly at first when I saw the video. That doesn't really change the point :p. But thanks for mentionning it nonetheless.
Bro I know! I genuinely really like Shez. They've quickly become one of my favorite characters from this series. Can't wait to see how the rest of their story plays out.
Okay I like this character a lot more than Byleth, I really hope they take the fandom's reaction as positive and start making their self insert characters more of actual characters because of this game.
tbh I never even inserted myself with the self insert character no matter how much they try to do it. Byleth was a serious missed opportunity of having a teacher with personality
@@TinaTissue28 Yeah, it is weird. Sometimes it can be overlooked, maybe in games with little story-dialogues like Mario, old Zelda games or the first JRPGs, but now it feels awkward to see a character just being there without even saying "yeah".
This was my biggest issue with Three Houses - and I'm glad that issue is rectified for Byleth and this game's protagonist. Silent protagonists CAN work but in a text-heavy game like a Fire Emblem game... not so much. In Chrono Trigger it works. In Super Mario RPG it works (Mario's hilarious pantomiming is reason enough to play it lol). I really hope the next main entry doesn't have a silent lead character - it's just so jarring in a game where everyone is so verbose lol
literally this, I know robin and corrin like actually spoke and all even on their own but something about the whole like making this person look exactly how you want (and far as I know Robin being like a clean slate) just rubs me the wrong way, like people can have their opinions about Ike as much as they want, idk what that might be, but Shez is literally the first protag since him, since 2007 aside from the remakes to just have a proper personality (unless I'm missing a game) and I love it already
@@bacongod5759 in classic mode, if a character dies, they die for good and won't be available in the next chapter. Lysithea definitely got killed with facts and logic in this video.
Lysithea here is too cute ngl. I never understood what people saw in her, but now I understand. When she says "weak little baby" my sides go into orbit.
Yeah. When she went and did the same thing she gets on at others for doing she deserved everything Shez gave her. She does own up to it and apologise in the B support though.
Ok, right here, is where I'm warming up to Shez. If Byleth and Shez didn't both have Gods in their heads that are rivals, then those two blokes would've been the best of pals. Their personalities compliment each other.
Man I really love Shez here. I never really liked Lysithea's character, just not my type, but it definitely gives us a chance to see more from other characters like this standing their ground just as hard haha.
Lmao! I love how the music starts blasting after Lysithea gets called a kid, I’m not sure if it was intentional but the comedic timing is great ahahahah!
Just wanted to say how I recently realized that Lysithea is voiced by the same actress who does XJ-9 😳 little did we know we met Lysithea years ago while watching our fav kid’s shows
Funny part is there’s a high chance when this support takes place that Lysithea is still only 17, so for all intents and purposes she IS still a kid lol
This demo made me love Shez and Arval before we get the full game (an idiot and their sassy ancient god), My man Shez was NOT backing down at all with Lysithea! We love to see it! 👏
I love how the beat DROPS the moment Shez calls Lysithea a kid
Literally five minutes later Shez preceded to get Dark spikes T-Ed by Lysithea. And he was never heard from again.
Yeah it’s pretty funny.
*accidentally calls Lysithea a kid*
“Why is boss music playing?”
LOL
@@cameronwiscovitch4186
Lysithea: "Parry this, you filthy casual!"
Can't believe he pulled a "No u" uno reverse card on her with such timing, my sides are slayed.
I know right Lysithea might be my favorite deer but this was priceless 10 out of freaking 10.
@@SpeedDemonPowerage98 Agreed.
Her voice actress did Peter the Panda from Phineas and Ferb though.
Lysithea:"Wrong."
Shez:"SORRY. I CANT HEAR YOU WITH THIS BACKGROUND MUSIC, BUT YOUR BULLSHIT IS EVEN LOUDER AND ITS NOT HELPING."
They were both kinda bullshitting
@@mihaimercenarul7467 WHAT how was shez bullshiting he literally complemented her the same way she did him then she got mad so he called out the hypocrisy
@@Nerocrystal choice of words matters, literally no way someone won't take offebse the way he said it unlike Lysithea who was a lot more polite
@@superbeta1716
Shez complimented Lysithea too so what? Her fault for raging like a maniac
@@ajtriforcegamerofhyrule8538 not as bad as marriane
I hope they keep making protagonists with personalities. It’s so intriguing when they aren’t silent.
Three Houses is the aberration since Robin and Corrin both had distinct personalities. I blame Byleth being mute on Persona 5.
I dont like silent protags either. Byleth in 3 houses is probably the best way to do it, and even then i only tolerate it.
Very intrigued to see more of them (well her in my case) later this month
@@Osakart Robin have a personality, Corrin is even worse that Byleth.
@@abrahamdavidgonzalezgonzal364 I just said Corrin had a personality, not that the personality was any good. Even then, a bad or annoying character is more memorable than basically no character at all.
@@supervegito2277 Byleth is the worst case scenario for a silent protagonist.
I love this dialogue *SO MUCH* . In three houses, when Lysithea had this kind of discussion with someone, she was so aggressive that the other person would often end up apologizing just to calm her down. That, or they would calmly explain to her that they weren't trying to be rude. Shez is one of the few who ACTUALLY fights back and calls her out for freaking up too much. You know, as an equal might do. The next supports are gonna be *SO* entertaining to see. I'm also interested in seeing what is going to happen once Shez discovers WHY Lysithea becomes so childish when talking about her age.
Lysithea is by far my favourite character and this support is just *GOLD*
This explains why I often hated her in 3H, but LOVED her here. In 3H, she just walked all over everyone like an absolute jerk. But when Shez actually gets to snap back, she comes off simply petty, rather than cruel. It makes a big difference on her likeability, oddly
@@scylla1772 Yeah it goes from being a bully in 3H to actual banter here.
@@scylla1772
She was so mean to Ignatz, it left a bad taste in my mouth for the rest of my Golden Deer playthrough tbh.
@@l.n.3372 Ignatz doesn't deserve being treated like he was.
Right? Their comments weren't even diminishing or minimizing her intelligence. They're just stating they're impressed cause she's young and already very intelligent.
At this rate, Shez is going to be a top tier character based on his quality of his support conversations.
Damn!
Byleth walked so Shez could soar away.
@@Zekken_The_Lodestar heh. Soar away. Heh.
@@Ian-fi7co into the dawn.
Shez is a godtier fucking character
They already are in my heart! This is pure gold!
The fact that the actual part of Fodlan Winds what intensifies plays when Lysithea snaps after Shez calls her a kid is perfect it sent me rolling. She might be my favorite Deer along with Marianne but this was freaking amazing. Edit: nvm it’s tempest of seasons took me a few rewatches to find that out.
Wait, this is deadass what happens in the game?
@@CamusZekeSirius i thought this was an edit as well lmao
@@mauroramondo5855 That is interesting, I didn’t know that. She sounds pretty funny.
The icing on the cake is the brief silence before the peak comes in.
@@mauroramondo5855 It is an edit.
Lys: dont call me a child
Someone: [so much as implies she looks young]
Lys: [Proceeds to act like a petulant child]
Shez really makes you realize how dull silent protagonists can be. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not wrong to have a silent protag, but damn… Shez is great
Why? He is really annoying and you are stuck with him being the main character, at least with Byleth you get to choose of being a prick or not
@@superbeta1716 When do you make choices like that? If I remember correctly, Byleth only had different flavors of yes and no responses. That would add nothing to a conversation at all.
@@superbeta1716 Cap, Byleth is an utterly lifeless character who gets shoehorned into the role of chosen one. Even them being a professor is a highly unusual circumstance that isn't really warranted. Not sure what you think is 'annoying' about Shez when he doesn't seem all that different from other FE protags. The biggest difference seems to be he doesn't hesitate to call people out on their bullshit which is honestly refreshing.
@@superbeta1716 With Byleth you have the other characters talking AT you for multiple lines on end, in an unnatural manner, with the player occasionally picking a dialogue option for the characters to react to, and go off for multiple lines again. Silent protagonists, even the popular ones, are rarely ever done well from a narrative standpoint and Byleth is no exception. Gutting 90% of the personality from a character so the audience can impose their own personality onto them, while it may improve engagement with the audience, will always be to the detriment of the character's actual writing. Established characters, even assholes, who functionally work just as any other character, will almost always be better.
I hate using this word, but it's unironically cope when people act like Byleth, or many other silent protagonists, are actually good characters.
@@ThiefofCrystals I mean tbf Byleth's lack of qualification is part of the whole reason the game goes as it does, they're just shoehorned in there because Rhea couldn't think of a better idea, not because they'd be a good teacher (which is something forgotten halfway through the game, but still)
"Wow you're very mature, hard working and better than most people, *despite being a kid*"
Lysithea is so self conscious about her age that even when she is compared to be better than others as a kid she flips out. But the icing on the cake is she also compared Shez based on age. G;ad somebody finally just outright told her she is younger, this is a fact.
I totally forgot Petra is the same age as Lysithea, but she doesn't have any problems.
It might have to do with upbringing
Mostly since lysithea is looking younger than petra, Claude teases her a lot and for some reason everyone mentions her as a child while no one does to Petra. But the main reason is frustration and desperation since she will die young, never grasping the life of an adult
@@mihaimercenarul7467 I know the dark stuff about her, it's just she is so self conscious she misses the point. And it's just strange that it took a whole-nother game for someone to tell her flat to her face like Shez does. Everyone else skirts around it or let's it slide due to 'teen years' like Raph does. I mean it's mature to do that, don't get me wrong but not a single person calls her out for it until now. It's kinda funny.
I know it's cause she has limited time and is trying to keep the perception she's older so she can complete her goals easier when it requires others. But it gets to points where she almost wants to find a sliver of a reason to become angry about it. Despite showing many 'younger' qualities by her own definition.... like eating cake, something kids definetly only do.
Young women also start puberty sooner than guys do. That's why Petra looks older than Ashe or Cyril despite being around the same age. When I went to prom freshman year, people thought I was my prom date's younger brother.
With Lysithea, she likely has body issues due to her short stature and appearance. Most characters in anime, manga, and games are actually around the same age as Lysithea. She's the same age as Ichigo from Bleach and Sonic the Hedgehog.
@@Admiralkirk95 that's one of her flaws, since she is mentally pressed by the thoughts of dying young, never grasping adulthood, rolling into a military academy not even for hers sale, but the sale of her family, puts a lot of pressure on her since she views herself as a vessel meeting it's expiration date. Of course she would like to life a full normal life, but she doesn't seem to realize how to achieve that, and focuses all her hours studying and training, sometimes eating cake as a coping mechanism, ignoring people believing that it would waste her time.
Haven't played Golden Deer in the demo yet. But this is brilliant. Shez does a great job at showing Lysithea that she does act hypocritical and childish.
Not hypocritical tho.
@@mihaimercenarul7467
Yes, she is. She apparently praised Shez for what he does at such a young age. But acts like a maniac when Shez does the same and praises her. That's hypocritical.
@@l.n.3372 not exactly, but you do you, buddy
@@mihaimercenarul7467
That's literally what the video above says! Even Shez says Lysithea is being hypocritical by praising his age when he can't praise her age. But whatever. Ignore the video, buddy.
@@l.n.3372 jeez, did I touch a nerve? Also I didn't know a video can talk itself. We learn something new every day
It's hard to believe that Three Houses is going to be three years old this year. Time sure does fly. I'm glad to see Lysithea making the cut for Three Hopes.
im glad to see everyone, especially ashen wolves. was scared they were gonna get cut for being dlc
@@patty1418 Yeah but I'm curious how we get them. Are they extra soldiers we can pick up along the way or are they a 4th route/beat the game bonus?
True, last time I remembered I was in highschool when 3h and pokemon sword was released. Now I'm in college and idk...
What cut? Every student is here
@@autisonm Once you get the DLC there’s a “Side Story” quest you have to complete. Once it’s done go back to main story and they should be in an area called “abyss” you can get there by a shady guy right beside Byleth’s room. You can only get them before the war arc tho
it's so good to have a protagonist that actually SPEAKS TO THE OTHERS RIGHT?
Yes.
It's kind of funny because Byleth actually talks with dialogue in this game.
Yes lol
@@petery6432 when I saw Byleth actually speaking with a VA and all I almost jumped in joy
and the fact that they speak very little just makes it more amusing to see
Didn't Robin and Corrin talk too?
I could only imagine Claude in the background shouting, "Just bake her a cake and you'll be fine!"
The music getting more intense every time Shez hits Lys with another one is what sells this scene for me
Lysithea: “Where does it show that I’m a kid?”
Shez: “From the fact that you are 15.”
17 really
which makes it kinda fall flat but yeah
Two years time skip makes her 17, the maturity in that varies in prospectives. Some say that’s a kid, some say that’s a teen, and in some places it’s legal. Lysithea, as lovely as she is, was being very immature here.
@@idreadFell365 I think Lysithea is a prime example of someone who has been forced to "grow up" a lot faster than she should, but she hasn't MATURED yet. she's had to cope with a lot but hasn't yet developed healthy emotional reactions or anything like that. it's why I like her, she's interesting.
The backing music is killing me
0:26 - The moment she loses it.
The sync is on point!
She thought this was gonna be like her C support with Ignatz in Three Houses.
Shez reminds her that he never played Three Houses.
This support in a nutshell:
Shez: I didn't call you a kid on purpose
Lysithea: Yes you did
Shez: But you did the same thing to me though
Lysithea: That's not the point
I love how it switches between regular and quiet when Shez and Lysithea are in control of the situation respectively (and swaps for each of them when they're neutral).
In the words of the wise sage Steven He...
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!
*_...Definitely gonna pull for Shez here once he finally makes his way into Fire Emblem Heroes._*
Lmao! Let’s hope there’s an 8% or 6% banner xD
Im more excited for inevitable Mythic Arval
@@OswaldAurelia same I don't care if arval turns out evil arval is just so kawai XD
We can only hope. I wouldn't say it's a guarantee as look at what happened to Rowan and Lianna.
@@rakurai4953 idk like if the box art is anything to go by it's seems it's Arval VS Sothis or Shez VS Byleth.
I think Byleth and Jeralt will be hired by the enemy side and the last battle might be something like Arval vs Sothis.
00:26 When you disagree with someone on reddit
This is one of the conversations in Golden Deer that I haven't gotten yet. I fucking love this lmao. Finally someone putting Lysithea in her place.
If someone could put Marianne in her place as well
@@mihaimercenarul7467
Shut yo mouth least Marianne is kinder
@@ajtriforcegamerofhyrule8538 well she wants to die, so... She is kinder but dumber as well
@@mihaimercenarul7467 Literally stop stalking me it's getting creepy.
@@JosepiThe13th not my fault you are everywhere. I don't think you know what stalking is tho. Bad memories?
I love Lysithea, but it’s fun seeing someone turn what she says against her.
Shez really seems to bring out the character's flaws lol. Lorenz's conversation is pretty similar to this, with Shez calling him out for having a heavily oversimplified view on nobles defending the commoners.
Shez has no chill and will probably roast half the cast if they wanted to. They were gonna destroy Alois’s career if Arval didn’t step in.
@@ZytenEspada man's about to end everyone's careers!
@@drakeevans3066 Shez is incredibly based ngl. I’m starting to like them a lot more.
I love lysithea and she’s a great character. But I’m so glad someone finally called her out on being a hypocrite. It’s good writing to point out a character’s flaws even if they have a reason for it
Yeah but hopefully some does the same to Felix since he also is a hypocrite and attacks everyone except a few people
@@mihaimercenarul7467 iirc seteth and dorothea calls him out on his BS in their supports.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 📸 oh naw not the contradiction aaahhhhh
@@mihaimercenarul7467 yeah he is. And it’s a character flaw.
Yes. She immediately assumes any compliment involving her age is meant to demean her.
Lysithea: You're pretty incredible, for a child...
Shez: You are a child too! You just have yet to accept it.
Lysithea: Angry Tsundere noises.
And that's why she's best girl
I definitely appreciate how Shez didn't back down or get flummoxed. It's unfortunately rare to see writers in the medium break trope.
And now:
"You know, an adult wouldn't get all stubborn and combative like this."
"That's what Shez said XD"
Lysithea needs to take a complement
Shez fixed all the problems Byleth had. I hated being able to choose what to say, but then having no voices lines for that said dialogue. And Shez has a personality.
I think having options on what to say is cool, but for for Byleth in most cases they were fake options
@@leoistari for sure. I love being able to see Shez fix the problems Byleth had as a protagonist.
I like that it's less choosing what they say and more choosing the sort of mood of what they're gonna say.
I like Byleth but she makes a better villain.
@@jossebrodeur6033 the problem is that the dialogue makes no difference
I love Shez so much, they’re blunt af
Cringe
@@mihaimercenarul7467 *based
The beat dropped HARD when he made his mistake.
I can't fucking breathe holy shit. The way the beat drops in the pause just as Shez calls her a child, the uno reverse card he pulls... Everything here is perfect, god bless.
The fucking music timing
Byleth walked so that Shez could run
Welcome to C supports, Shez.
I love that the music gets louder and the beat drops at parts where Shez casually calls Lysithea a child.
That was the last thing he said before getting Dark spiked to death
Lmaooooooo. Why am I not surprised that someone made this comment.
@@SpeedDemonPowerage98 not going to lie in three hopes Lysitheas very slow compared to other magic users I've used all the units in mock battles testing them out and she's probably never gonna be used by me she is the equivelnet of the original warriors Corrin
And so Shez became the first avatar to rival Robin as my favorite one
Same. Robin is still no. 1 but goddamn Shez has purple hair too…
I love how the song drops as soon as Shez calls her a kid
I love Lysithea and I'm glad she matures post-timeskip in 3houses, but Shez clearly takes the W here.
Yeah he does and I’m saying that as a Lysithea fan. My girl just got absolutely roasted. And I’m not even mad about it either as I’m used to her childish and Hypocritical attitude.
@@SpeedDemonPowerage98 Well maybe.
She's just very childish, not hypocritical (at least here).
I love Lysithea and she's a great character in many ways but sometimes this happens and it bothers me a lot that she immediately goes to the negatives when someone says something about her age or her behavior and she even gets slightly verbally abusive about it, I'm not trying to hate on her at all when I say this, it's just something that Isee with her.
it's her complex, her trigger and her weakness
It’s a hard truth for people who like Lysithea we have to deal with, but some of her fans refuse to accept it.
Thats the reason i hate her so much. To me she is just a shittier version of Edelgard. She feels like a dollar store copy with self insert garbage added to her. The only Three Houses char i cant stand at all.
@@InitialsStudio In Three Houses there is some development you see in the post-time skip. The pre-time skip is learning about her and granted her background is pretty tragic so it is understandable where she comes from.
It's what keeps me from liking her tbh. Like I get it her backstory is sad and I feel bad for her for what the Agarthians did to her, but this attitude of hers and the way she snaps at anyone for the littlest thing makes me despise her.
Ngl as much as I like Lysithea it's cool seeing someone talk some sense into to her
I would rather say it's Shez who completely destroyed her and factually proved she's in fact immature here.
She even shows that she has a very negative and disrespecting view regarding the child condition by directly assuming Shez means she's a literal baby by saying that. She could take that as a compliment if she wasn't so complexed about being compared to a child.
That was quite funny though.
That's exactly what the title of the video says. It means that Lysithea is the one being destroyed by facts and logic :P
@@m.m.2341 I know I just didn't read the title correctly at first when I saw the video. That doesn't really change the point :p. But thanks for mentionning it nonetheless.
"For a kid". At that moment, i already knew she was not going to like that.
Okay I was not a fan from the trailers but oh my God Shez is so good in this game!
Bro I know! I genuinely really like Shez. They've quickly become one of my favorite characters from this series. Can't wait to see how the rest of their story plays out.
@@JosepiThe13th aren't you the idiot who thinks Marianne is a better character than Lorenz? Lol
@@JosepiThe13th also how can you have a new fav character in such a short time? You really have problems kid
@@mihaimercenarul7467 OK Byleth fan
@@autumn-vl5ez byleth is the lamest protagonist. Nice assumption tho.
Okay I like this character a lot more than Byleth, I really hope they take the fandom's reaction as positive and start making their self insert characters more of actual characters because of this game.
tbh I never even inserted myself with the self insert character no matter how much they try to do it. Byleth was a serious missed opportunity of having a teacher with personality
@@TinaTissue28 Yeah, it is weird. Sometimes it can be overlooked, maybe in games with little story-dialogues like Mario, old Zelda games or the first JRPGs, but now it feels awkward to see a character just being there without even saying "yeah".
This was my biggest issue with Three Houses - and I'm glad that issue is rectified for Byleth and this game's protagonist. Silent protagonists CAN work but in a text-heavy game like a Fire Emblem game... not so much. In Chrono Trigger it works. In Super Mario RPG it works (Mario's hilarious pantomiming is reason enough to play it lol). I really hope the next main entry doesn't have a silent lead character - it's just so jarring in a game where everyone is so verbose lol
literally this, I know robin and corrin like actually spoke and all even on their own but something about the whole like making this person look exactly how you want (and far as I know Robin being like a clean slate) just rubs me the wrong way, like people can have their opinions about Ike as much as they want, idk what that might be, but Shez is literally the first protag since him, since 2007 aside from the remakes to just have a proper personality (unless I'm missing a game) and I love it already
The boss music drops when Shez calls her a kid, amazing
Lysithea: I'M NOT A KID!
Shez-o Kaiba: Whatever you say, kid.
Hope you weren't playing in classic mode because she definitely won't be back in the next chapter after this
Too bad units dies starting from chapter 4
He fucking killed her
LMAO
What do you mean?
@@bacongod5759 in classic mode, if a character dies, they die for good and won't be available in the next chapter. Lysithea definitely got killed with facts and logic in this video.
“Then there is no need for *any qualifying language.* “
Truth Bullets:
>>Lysithia’s Testimony
*NO, THAT’S WRONG!*
ALLOW ME TO CUT THROUGH THOSE WORDS
Lysithea here is too cute ngl. I never understood what people saw in her, but now I understand. When she says "weak little baby" my sides go into orbit.
As someone who loves Lysithea's character- seeing her get called out like this was very satisfying
Yeah. When she went and did the same thing she gets on at others for doing she deserved everything Shez gave her. She does own up to it and apologise in the B support though.
Claude warned you, Shez.
They did Byleth dirty by giving Shez actual personality.
Byleth is a great example of good idea for a character, bad idea for a protag.
I love Shez so much
Cringe
@@mihaimercenarul7467 no u
@@mihaimercenarul7467 no u
other characters lysithea interactions: wait I didn't mean you're a kid😢 . shez: hey kiddo great job today you know for a kid you little baby boo bop
So Smol! So Angry! ❤️
Ok, right here, is where I'm warming up to Shez. If Byleth and Shez didn't both have Gods in their heads that are rivals, then those two blokes would've been the best of pals. Their personalities compliment each other.
Man I really love Shez here.
I never really liked Lysithea's character, just not my type, but it definitely gives us a chance to see more from other characters like this standing their ground just as hard haha.
I feel like I've seen a Twitter argument
Robin: finally a worthy opponent
Are support conversations will be legendary
Shez has my favorite kind of snark
God these conversations are so much better when the MC actually fucking speaks
jokes aside, the music in this game really slaps
Based Shez at his finest. But, nah. I'm happy they gave him some emotion.
Shez woke up and chose blood
Shez pushes the Lysithea button and doubles down on it....i didnt expect that of a protag ngl
Shez has guts, that's for sure
Lmao! I love how the music starts blasting after Lysithea gets called a kid, I’m not sure if it was intentional but the comedic timing is great ahahahah!
The music intensifying😭
she sounded like she was about to cry lol
I was expecting the music to just STOP with a record scratch sound when he called her a kid.
Sigma Shez
It’s crazy how she’s also voiced a teenage robot
So glad Shez has a voice. It definitely makes the support convos more interesting than Byleth’s.
its kinda like sylvains support with lysthea, but way funnier
Good thing Lysithea cannot pull out her weapons or Shez would've been toast
That's sync at 0:26 was amazing
It's Edward Elric all over again
SHEZ PLAYED SO MANY UNO REVERSE CARDS, MY GOD!
Just wanted to say how I recently realized that Lysithea is voiced by the same actress who does XJ-9 😳 little did we know we met Lysithea years ago while watching our fav kid’s shows
Her Japanese Va is also Aoi Yuki the voice of Yuuki “Zekken” Konno from SAO II and a lot more roles i don’t know of.
this is what it feels like to argue on twitter
"Sooo... I heard you had a fight with Shez today?"
Lysithea: "No, he was having a fight. I was being completely reasonable!"
The music makes this so much funnier
Shez bout to learn why she strikes terror in to the heart of the death knight himself.
What makes this even funnier is that i know someone just like Lysithea, Shez my man hang in there
you know someone with terminal illness that will kill him in a few years ,struggling with depression and anxiety?
I prefer the roast he gives to Byleth during the side quest where they’re saving Leonie’s village from bandits. 😂😅
Funny part is there’s a high chance when this support takes place that Lysithea is still only 17, so for all intents and purposes she IS still a kid lol
I love that Shez does not back down lmao
DAMN HE JUST WRECKED HER LOL
People forget that the reason why she hates being treated like a kid is because she literally won't live long enough to be treated like an adult
The music is perfectly timed
It’s nice seeing someone other than Claude go full in roast without meaning to hurt her.
This demo made me love Shez and Arval before we get the full game (an idiot and their sassy ancient god),
My man Shez was NOT backing down at all with Lysithea! We love to see it! 👏
I love how the music gets intense inbetween their dialogue. As if the music itself is saying "Oh snap!"
boy just steped on a landmine lol
I love how they characterized Shez.
Why is that soundtrack going so hard in the background for just a conversation lmao might have to cop🤣👌🏾🔥
HOLY BASED SHEZ