BrAiniac has been destroying way more civilizations than ultron has. Also brainiac is a biological or was so he can think , where as ultron was created by a human being
So what if Brainiac has been around for longer? That doesn't make him smarter or more dangerous. It just makes him older. And Brainiac being biological is actually a drawback, not an advantage. Biological brains have limitations, even if they are augmented by technology. Ultron is a fully self-aware, constantly evolving, digital artificial intelligence. Its like if the entire internet was self-aware and evil, and was spanning the entire galaxy and infecting entire other civilizations.
But ultron hasn't been out in the galaxy he has been here on earth dealing in mostly earth tech .. Yes he has been out in the galaxy once or twice where as brainiac has been out in the galaxy collecting and destroying whole civilizations for awhile he isn't just old he is smarter and wiser than ultron , who was made by a human
Wrong. Ultron IS out in the galaxy. Not just gone there once or twice and came back to Earth. He is out in the universe conquering planets and civilizations. That's part of the genius of Ultron. When he attacks the Avengers these days, it's just one of his bodies doing it. He exists in multiple places at the same time. The entire Phalanx civilization is under his control and he goes around the universe destroying organic life. Ultron being created by a human means nothing. He is self-evolving. He evolved far beyond human limitations a long time ago.
Nice job on this. Thank you, I've been requesting this for a long time. Unlike other shows of what-if battles, most of those have a voting poll, making it completely biased. This show is completely unbiased based that you determine everything about each combatant. I'm glad I came across this and continue to do great work.
Kinda makes sense though, Some of these battles are toss ups on what You know and not what may happen. For beings very intelligent and super powered anything can happened.
But it's been stated the geth cannot be "hacked" for more than a few seconds unless they themselves choose to change. Example Legions loyalty mission. Also legion is a good example because he literally COULDNT be hacked.
Not to mention that ultron assimilated an entire technological race, thus gaining any and all knowledge they once possessed. All in All ultron is definitely the smartest fighter.
Dude, Brianiac is a multiversal god, who lives in a time paradox. Vil dox is just one of his avatars, and that avatar alone has the psychic power to recreate existence. Ultron has no chance against Brainiac. Brainiac is far more than a machine. Even Darkseid is terrified of him.
Smh idc how late I am, it’s pathetic that Age of Ultron made Ultron all-heavenly, yet people forget Brainiac got the same treatment during Convergence in 2015. He absorbed all the knowledge in the Multiverse in a hardware drive which is linked to him m.imgur.com/sPPdKlB Can reset the multiverse with the powers of time manipulators across time; m.imgur.com/a/rkGbJq4 Absorbed every timeline in his body; m.imgur.com/VXHjxMt Adverts the collapse of the Multiverse; m.imgur.com/a/22C301q Stabilized reality and restored the Infinite Crisis infinite multiverse m.imgur.com/a/17O1G4G And don’t say that this is not the same Brainiac as the standard green skinned tendrils guy you see. It’s the same. He was unaffected by the Flashpoint effect, and decided to go to the Source Wall to obtain even greater knowledge. The mutation was from the Zero Hour. So yes, he’s right. Brainiac is indeed multiverse like at his best.
This seems right too. Pretty much covered it all. For what its worth, I'd give Ultron the edge in strait combat 1 on 1 as well. He's made bodies so stupidly OP it took scarlet witch's reality warping just to damage him.
I wonder if Sigma from the Mega Man X series was inspired by (or ripped off) these characters. Mega Man series' are know for 'borrowing' looks/material from various sources.
For god's sake how come whenever a Marvel character wins there is nothing but bitching in the comment section but when a DC character wins it's pretty tame?
this is one thing I loved about the first Avengers. No one was nerfed; they fought a successful badass, and everyone's powers were at their pique (Thor for example shooting possibly the biggest lighting bolt in comics, Hulk KO'ing a colossal monster, etc. Meaning in Avengers 2 Ultron probably won't be nerfed either. Which is why I know it will be awesome.
Ultron seems unstoppable when it comes to infecting other systems/techno organisms but how good are Ultron's defenses? Could someone else hack into Ultron like Iron Man?
A lot of DC cry-baby fanboys on here pointing fingers, but failing to make an argument for why/how Brainiac could beat Ultron. PMayhem makes great points about Ultron in this matchup. Deal with it.
Ultron is a toy thing to Brainiac. Brainiac's feats are incredible. He has the same power levels as Superman physically. He has telepathy, he has the ability to control minds and use technology to put every mind on earth to sleep for good, he has an incredibly powerful and complex personal army. He has bottled entire civilizations and taken their technology. Not only that - Brainiac is basically immortal. His physical body has been duplicated dozens of times.
Ultron was thrown into the sun, incinerated and wound up fighting the Guardians later - hundreds if not thousands of light years away. Ultron is simply one of those villains who doesn't go away, and in assimilating him he would simply reverse it and take Brainiac over through reverse engineering whatever tech Brainiac used to subdue him. He's literally Skynet - judgment incarnate.... Just ignore that shitty Genysis movie.
The good thing about Marvel is that they make their characters more unique and interesting than the characters they were inspired of. Their story arcs are way better than DC's.
Ultron would win, he did way more damage in Marvel Universe than Brainiac ever did in DC. The guy is always beaten by Superman alone, where it takes Marvels best teams effort to beat Ultron. Also Adamantium Body for the win.
PerfectMayhem82, I just wanted to suggest some more possible grudge matches for you to consider and would love to see on future grudge matches. First, Reed Richards aka Mr. Fantastic against Plastic Man, Death stroke against the Punisher, Daredevil against Batman, The Juggernaut against Doomsday, and Lex Luthor against the Red Skull, and also black lightening against electro. Finally an all out battle of gods, The Beyonder against Anti Monitor. OK and one kinda of crazy one how about Galactus against Unikrom from the transformers.
ultron is capable of forming tech and knowledge at the same level of brainiac with out the the long process of downloading a planets knowledge, therefore ultron while being originally lower tech has been able to pole vault to brainiacs level, this also means he can go even farther and faster than braniac and eventually out do him.
This reminds me of the Daleks vs Cybermen conflict in the series. While I feel Daleks would win out, it would not be impossible for cooperation, considering they are both cyborgs trying to change the universe. In this grudge match, I could see Ultron and Brainiac working together to to dominate everything and eventually merging into one being. Luckily, they are in two universes so it won't happen most likely.
***** he stands more then a chance. After DC's Convergence story line completes - you will see how powerful Brainiac is. At his core Ultron was based on a human design, Brainiac is ridiculously powerful now and it's basically put him on the same level as Darkseid or even above it. I know what Ultron can do and what Brainiac can do. Physically speaking - Brainiac has Superman level strength, speed, stamina, and senses. Although Ultron's body is made of Adamantium - it can still be damaged badly enough to destroy what is inside. Brainiac is beyond what a cyborg is. His sole purpose is to scour Universes - assimilate all knowledge of each planet he encounters - he keeps one city in a bottle and destroys the planet. He also destroys the Sun that is relative to that planet. Adamantium may be close to indestructible - but humans are able to heat it up enough to form complex shapes. Once it hardens - it is very difficult to destroy but not impossible. Superman's heat vision at full blast would be sufficient to destroy it. Brainiac has technology that could destroy it. Ultron was Marvel's copy of Brainiac. But they were smart and went about it in a different way. Back when Brainiac was introduced - he was Vril Dox. They stressed his telepathic abilities - over time Brainaic evolved into what you see today. Then of course you have the fact that Brainiac has 12th level intelligence - which basically renders him all knowing in combination with the knowledge he has absorbed.. it's not really a fair fight. I like Ultron, he is an intriguing character. I like the fact that he was designed by humans. But Brainiac is an alien and basically considered now a God of Technology. If that is even possible. Brainiac was able to posses Doomsday for a time as well until Doomsday was able to evolve past his presence. Do some reading up on Brainiac - you will see what I mean.
true ultron would win this match but ultron would win the physical match as well cause in another clip from youtube ultron has a body made of Adamantium so no matter what brainiac does brainiac could never defeat ultron in a physical match also
Small point Ultron just hijacked a small group of Phalanx (which he then massively grew) are just ...remote.. digestive enzymes of a sort, for the Technarchy. Who just showed up and undid everything and Ultron had to run away. I am a marvel fan, but I have to give this one to Brainiac, though, much like Capt A vs Batman or Dormammu vs Trigon, this is not a cut and dry and the winner is realistically unknowable.
Ultro might be all that but that doesn't necessary mean that Brainiac isn't. Brainiac was able to outsmart the krytonias, who were known for being more advance than the human race in every way. His destroyed thousand of planets and registered every information/technology those planets had to offer, meaning his probably come across a race like the so called phalax, but it has not been spoken about. He is even capable of controlling humans through the use of certain parasites. His so powerful that he almost took apokalypes, a planet belonging to a god "the all powerful darkseid". Darkseid had to make a deal with him just to escape being destroyed. Now let me reply to the reason you gave about brainiac having one original body. You clearly stated that both characters consciousness has to be placed in a computer to see who will over power who. This means Ultron or Brainiac can't count on other bodies or whatever, because their complete consciousness is in the computer. That cancels the option of having an additional body or consciousness. Besides it seem like the only reason Ultron could take over that race was because they were computer like, meaning he could act as a virus. Brainiac does that every time. How do you think he acquires the knowledge of every planet he attacks. He does exactly the same thing as Ultron. In all honesty, I don't think any is better than the other. This match is automatically a draw.
hell hound360 I don't have to fall to petty insults to make my point. The truth is that everyone has their own idea on who would win in a battle between comic character but it would never be true until actually proven on screen, by the creator and even then it can be bias. P.S: you see the +2? That is me liking my comment.
dident you heard what he said he said he took over a clan of aliens that no marvel character calud beat while ultron just for seconds starde mine controlingthe whit the viruse
hell hound360 I did hear that. Now I don't know the clan he mentioned, but from what he said it seems like they were computerized or half machine seeing as they could be controlled through the use of a virus. Last time I checked, Brainiac could also hack into any technology, even those belonging to the krytonians who are considered to be a million light years ahead in technology compared to the human race. Just because DC doesn't produce a lot of stories about Brainiac like Marvel does for Ultron doesn't automatically make Ultron better. For all we know Brainiac would be able to take over that same clan but with a different and more effective plan.
ceep bragin abaout bull shit brainiac ha only brains ultron has more brains and ha power and an enthier clan of robots brainiac never acomplish anything ultron is the first villan tha has achivd world dominence and actuley kil heros
Well ultron destroyed the marvel universe...... 20 times....and even kang the conqueror And they did not even stop him They just had to tell him to stop before he breaks time and space And ultron understood that all that battling would not really get him to his goal because kang kept reversing time to try and get a new outcome which did not happen
well I have a question, if the phalaxs, did what they tried to do to ultron, to brainiac, do you think brainiac could have done the same thing to them that ultron did ? because hasn't brainiac traveled solar systems and assimilate and collect entire planets and civilizations ?
I really can't commit on this outcome because I'm a little confused. Maybe it's because I followed different media other than comics concerning Braniac; from comics to Animated TV shows to even Smallville. I thought Brainiac was the brain interactive construct of the planet Krypton. who after it was destroyed, survived by transferring to different planets or technolgy and assimilating the knowledge of those. Someone please let me know the real origin of Brainiac please.
Nope. That was retconned for the cartoons (and I guess for Smallville, I don't know since I didn't watch it). The real, original origin of Brainiac was exactly as I explained it in this video.
Rusty Spork Well, I suppose it depends on how you measure "smarter." Brainiac 5 is from the future and as such, has access to super-advanced technology and science beyond anything either Ultron or Brainiac has ever had access to. So Brainiac 5 has access to more and greater information. But is his basic IQ greater? I would tend to say yes, but it's tricky. Brainiac 5 is an organic being rather than a computer mind, so I think there are some inherent limits to what an organic brain can do. But i'm not 100% on that. I'm not super read up on the Legion of Super Heroes.
of course Ultron won, its fucking Ultron! and after seeing flash being able to beat Brainiac in JLU I lost a lot of respect for him/it. The young avengers couldn't even beat Ultron it was hulk XD and even then Ultron had knocked hulk out but wasps son made him even more angry and he destroyed ultron then they scattered his remains in space so his healing factor couldn't commence.
In pure technology level Ultron might be more advanced but Brainiac gave me the impression of being much more intelligent and possessing intuition, which Ultron does not seem to have.
Pre-Crisis Brainiac, the original version, was an android. Post-Crisis, he only became an android after several appearances, each time taking in more tech..
Yea this was a no brainer and I mean in favor of ULTRON if it comes to who shall prevail with more tech wisdom... ULTRON trumps Braniac ... But Braniac seems more galactic tho So I agree here
If a probe or any technology connected to brainiac came into contact with even a radio signal version of Ultron he would take control and memorize every bit of data Brainiac has. Leaving Brainiac just a naked green guy. But honestly it could go either way.
I think it would be a stalemate bc both are vastly powerful super geniuses with advanced technology.They would both analyze each orhers strengths\weaknesses and find none to be exploited by either one.
Brainiac is like a DC version of the Borg while Ultron is more like the Doomsday Machine. Ultron just kills while Brainiac assimilates then kills and is half organic.
Link please, while it is true that QS has time jumped (not time traveled) the flash has traveled in time, as shown in the flashpoint paradox, when he(flash) jumped through time and created an entirely different universe, resulting in the new 52. QS has never done something that far-reaching(to my knowledge)
***** I mean war world is a very advanced technological planet as well, it's basically hybrid death star/ planet. If we're talking Jeff Johns version of brianiac then I don't c ultron being to counter hack this guy, brianiacs soul purpose is 2 hack advanced world's 4 information he usually doesn't get his hands dirty. Hell brainiac in our world's at war if I can remember absorbed thee energy of imperiexe, that's far more impressive than the pheylixn sorry if I spelled wrong
Lol the sarcasm 1st of all the I was talking 2 brought up a feat were ultron! Became Odin! Therefor I said imperiexe is above odin!!! So b4 you make a sarcastic comment look at wuts being said
Knowledge is power that is the undisputed fact that governs and separate's the weak from the strong, the leaders from the followers. Simply using this undeniable fact, one can say that he who has great knowledge wields great power this is true. Applying this fact of life to this problem it becomes quite simple to produce a victor, Braniac having immense knowledge on technology, and Military tactics spanning centuries from thousands of different civilizations makes him the victor since his goal is I'm fact to gain MORE knowledge. In the end finding a way to combat the so called Ultron virus backed by Millions of years of technolgical advances spanning countless civilizations. Braniac is largely under estimated. I believe Braniac would be the victor for aquiring so much information.
Only using the information given from the video and your comment. Ultron would have more advanced knowledge since he was confirmed to have conquered a massively advanced civilization. Ultron has more knowledge and therefore more power.
That's all well and good but Ultron is purely data, with a thinking capability to study centuries of data in a matter of seconds. It doesn't matter how long Brainiac has spent "learning", Ultron would catch up in the span hours if not a day's worth.
Fact that's missing is that Brainiac has conquered and destroyed many civilizations in the universe collecting them even kryptonians and poised a threat to Darkseid's planet Apocalypse, where ultron has not.
jomossino Brainiac never conquered or destroyed the Kryptonians. The destruction of their planet was a natural event. Brainiac had nothing to do with it. All he managed to do was kidnap some Kryptonians and miniaturize them.
If you see it that way. In my opinion he did conquer them if he achieved what he did. I never claimed he destroyed them as he knew they were doomed anyway.
What about Luther and Braniac merging ? That is one major event that gives rise to Braniac-Darksied merge and then to a final solution to the Anti-life equation. Event: Justice League The animated series.
What about it? For one, the cartoon series is non-canon. The comics are the source that is used here. For two, it wouldn't exactly matter if they had been merged at one time. This isn't a fight between Ultron and Luthor/Brainiac. It's a fight between Ultron and Brainiac. Luthor doesn't factor into it at all.
***** Yes I totally get what you are trying to explain here. I just pointed out this non-canon even because if Ultron and Phalanx can be a major plus point then why can't these DC events taken into consideration. But again yes as comics are the only source used here its fair enough.
I agree with most of your vids but i call BS on this one. Anyway most people in the comments agree with me. And on comic vine the majority of people agree with Brainiac. Most people on comic vine know more about comics than people on youtube. MAJORITY FOR THE WIN!!!!!!
Here are some final suggestions for grudge matches. Bane vs Luke Cage, Killer Kroc vs the Lizard, Simon (the teen titans comics) vs MODOK, Thor vs Rayden from mortal combat, Lobo vs THING, Iceman vs Killer Frost, The Joker vs Green Goblin, Lex Luther vs The Kingpin. Subzero (MK) vs Mr. Freeze, and Parasite vs Absorbing Man.
His last point does not count because he clearly stated that both of their consciousness will be in a computer for the fight, meaning no additional body or anything.
Hopefully in a none BS way. In several different stories, Ultron kills nearly all of the heroes, and probably the villains, in Marvel. I want to see Ultron give the Avengers an ultimate smackdown/brain fu**ing they will never forget.
Dr. Manhattan is so underrated, he would win considering SS doesn't have enough fire power to "kill" him, if that is even possible considering he doesn't exist in the same place of time and reality. Dr. Manhattan on the other hand would just have to make multiple planet sized clones of himself, each of which can destroy the planet with energy blasts just by raising their hand.
My opinion this could go either ways Ultrons finding Brainiac lair and beating Him on massive troops or Brainiac having the power of knowledge throughout the galaxy may already know ultron's weakness then exposing it using it to ultron's demised. I am at par at this battle. This is how I see this battle would go. One edge on Brainiac is he can manipulate by blackmail ex. superman to keep louise alive for exmple then ask Superman to defeat ultron for him. Ultron doesnt have a history of doing such act;lastly depends on which brainiac it is Brainiac 5 is from the future has edge of knowledge on his time to defeat Ultron as well. but i would stick to 50-50 on this. I won't mention wasp as ultron's weakness anymore.
So ultron is just an average robot with the same purpose as all robot enemies just to whip out all organics I mean brainiac has a purpose why he kill all life to gain the knowledge but ultron just dose it cuz he's a robot?
hmmm if ultron doesn't have a centrally driven concept, then isn't it also true that "ultron" doesn't exist succinctly, that any one of his variants could become the dominant form, doesn't that leave him susceptible to destruction by difference, i.e., that one of his dispersed ultron forms rebels against the ultron collective? in this sense braniac has a central form and controls every form of himself and has less flexibility, but ultimately retains a sense of self. maybe one could argue that braniac, being centralized, could capitalize on this concept, and cause a civil war within ultron variants, all of whom would be interested in their own self-preservation, while brainiac's minions, not having that sort of autonomy, wouldn't be concerned as much with self-preservation and undauntingly eradicate any opposition.
I don't think you are understanding how Ultron's consciousness works. His different bodies do not all have their own separate consciousnesses. It is one consciousness diffused throughout many different bodies. One single Ultron body could no more revolt against the rest any more than one strand of hair on your head could revolt against the rest of your body. Or your finger couldn't rebel against you. When two or more Ultron bodies are in the same place at the same time, its not two separate Ultron consciousnesses that just think very much alike. There is only one Ultron there...just inside of both bodies simultaneously.
***** the distinction I'm trying to make is whether a centrally located consciousness that directs the rest is of any advantage over his "minions" so to speak. Instead of hair or fingers I think a more apt comparison would be cancer, where mutations cause cells to replicate inside one's own body and cause havoc. For instance, if one of ultron's other bodies was directed to do something that would end the existence of that unit, is it possible that that unit might develop a sense of self-preservation? Wouldn't that be a weak point that could be manipulated? Given Brainiac's vast repository of knowledge, surely he would have encountered other civilizations that had been devastated by the ai's they had produced, and perhaps that is why he is specifically centrally located in one body. I think it's germane to consider whether the differences in how they operate, and their distinct sense of self wouldn't be central to how they would engage each other in a stand off. I'm just stabbing in the dark btw. Just thought it was an interesting concept to bring to the discussion.
After watching quite a few of these now and agreeing with you probably on 90% of them this is one I cannot agree with you on based on the way for winning (overwriting the other) I cannot see how Brainiac is inferior to Ultron on this matter. I guess it could be about the time when you did the video but current incarnation of Brainiac would not lose.
No way friendo!!! Brainiac is a villain that has basically turned himself into an Ultron. With all of Ultrons strengths and none of his weaknesses. He was and is a living thing which gives him more perspective and better understanding that a machine might not get. Plus even though Ultron has been concurring some other alien races how is he gonna surpass somebody thats been doing it much much much longer then him? On top of that Brainiac has conquered and absorbed way more advanced being then human. Just that alone would make Brainiac the winner.
***** That's my point though. Ultron is made from earths tech and computer programs. How you gonna tell me he took over or conquered a race of living technology?!!! They would be leaps and bounds ahead of him. Just like Brainiac himself would be. It wouldn't evwn be close. It's like the comparison of technology from 1980 competing with today's tech. How you gonna say that Ultron is gonna compete or take over living beings that are problably thousands and thousands of years ahead of not just humans but Ultron too. Come on bro.
***** I agree with the comic logic part. But Ultron cant even conquer earth with simple earth tech. Now you're gonna try and say he goes and conquers far more intelligent beings with one body. Obviously comic book logic makes no sense but come on we can call it when we see it. Ultron has all humans knowledge and technology at his fingertips. Meanwhile Brainic has the knowledge and tech of many many different more waaaayyyy more advance worlds. Its not even close really. It's like an ant trying to conquer humans. Come on son. Ultron still runs on windows.
Bull Crap Ultron would win. By the time Brainiac comes around he has already taken in and assimilated the knowledge and technology of so many other civilizations. Ultron is limited to earth until he goes to space. If you are going based on when the two characters are introduced, Brainiac wins, because he has the knowledge and technology of the cosmos, whereas Ultron only has earth.
Ive seen many of ur matches- lex luthor defeated by tony stark Hqwkeye defeats green arrow Ultron defeats brainiac Next time make a grudge match btw spiderman and THE PRESENCE and the winner is spidey
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Ultron is not limited to Earth tech. He has been out in the galaxy conquering alien civilizations for years now.
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BrAiniac has been destroying way more civilizations than ultron has. Also brainiac is a biological or was so he can think , where as ultron was created by a human being
So what if Brainiac has been around for longer? That doesn't make him smarter or more dangerous. It just makes him older.
And Brainiac being biological is actually a drawback, not an advantage. Biological brains have limitations, even if they are augmented by technology. Ultron is a fully self-aware, constantly evolving, digital artificial intelligence. Its like if the entire internet was self-aware and evil, and was spanning the entire galaxy and infecting entire other civilizations.
But ultron hasn't been out in the galaxy he has been here on earth dealing in mostly earth tech .. Yes he has been out in the galaxy once or twice where as brainiac has been out in the galaxy collecting and destroying whole civilizations for awhile he isn't just old he is smarter and wiser than ultron , who was made by a human
Wrong. Ultron IS out in the galaxy. Not just gone there once or twice and came back to Earth. He is out in the universe conquering planets and civilizations. That's part of the genius of Ultron. When he attacks the Avengers these days, it's just one of his bodies doing it. He exists in multiple places at the same time. The entire Phalanx civilization is under his control and he goes around the universe destroying organic life.
Ultron being created by a human means nothing. He is self-evolving. He evolved far beyond human limitations a long time ago.
Nice job on this. Thank you, I've been requesting this for a long time. Unlike other shows of what-if battles, most of those have a voting poll, making it completely biased. This show is completely unbiased based that you determine everything about each combatant. I'm glad I came across this and continue to do great work.
Kinda makes sense though, Some of these battles are toss ups on what You know and not what may happen. For beings very intelligent and super powered anything can happened.
So imagine if either Ultron or Braniac got ahold of the Geth from Mass Effect...
But it's been stated the geth cannot be "hacked" for more than a few seconds unless they themselves choose to change. Example Legions loyalty mission. Also legion is a good example because he literally COULDNT be hacked.
Not to mention that ultron assimilated an entire technological race, thus gaining any and all knowledge they once possessed. All in All ultron is definitely the smartest fighter.
Dude, Brianiac is a multiversal god, who lives in a time paradox.
Vil dox is just one of his avatars, and that avatar alone has the psychic power to recreate existence.
Ultron has no chance against Brainiac. Brainiac is far more than a machine. Even Darkseid is terrified of him.
Hmm, why exactly do I get the feeling that you might be...a DC fanboy?
Hmm...I'm sure it's nothing.
Omg, this douche again. Can you stop stalking me you fucking creeper...
+Ikaika Arnado oh dc dc... original never seen and he could create infinite powerful avatars. darkeid, braniac.. who gain this ability next?)
Ikaika Arnado And yet he always gets beaten by characters far less powerful than Ultron.
Smh idc how late I am, it’s pathetic that Age of Ultron made Ultron all-heavenly, yet people forget Brainiac got the same treatment during Convergence in 2015.
He absorbed all the knowledge in the Multiverse in a hardware drive which is linked to him
m.imgur.com/sPPdKlB
Can reset the multiverse with the powers of time manipulators across time;
m.imgur.com/a/rkGbJq4
Absorbed every timeline in his body;
m.imgur.com/VXHjxMt
Adverts the collapse of the Multiverse;
m.imgur.com/a/22C301q
Stabilized reality and restored the Infinite Crisis infinite multiverse
m.imgur.com/a/17O1G4G
And don’t say that this is not the same Brainiac as the standard green skinned tendrils guy you see. It’s the same. He was unaffected by the Flashpoint effect, and decided to go to the Source Wall to obtain even greater knowledge. The mutation was from the Zero Hour.
So yes, he’s right. Brainiac is indeed multiverse like at his best.
As soon as I heard about Ultron and The Phalanx, I was just like, "Whoooooaaaaa!" and nearly fell off my chair! I mean, holy crap, man.
Sorry but Braniac absolutely god stomps. Even Darkseid don’t fuck with Brainy
Ultron submits to no one!
This seems right too. Pretty much covered it all. For what its worth, I'd give Ultron the edge in strait combat 1 on 1 as well. He's made bodies so stupidly OP it took scarlet witch's reality warping just to damage him.
Glad to see you keep up to date. That was one of my favorite Storylines Annihilation Conquest
I wonder if Sigma from the Mega Man X series was inspired by (or ripped off) these characters. Mega Man series' are know for 'borrowing' looks/material from various sources.
Ultron is made of adamantiun. Take that into consideration.
I'm highly impressed with your marvel and DC knowledge.
For god's sake how come whenever a Marvel character wins there is nothing but bitching in the comment section but when a DC character wins it's pretty tame?
+bluhmer1990 Cry more dumbass.
+bluhmer1990 lol nice one
+bluhmer1990 kinda have to agree with you
+bluhmer1990 Because the DC crowd take things way to seriously....
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this is one thing I loved about the first Avengers. No one was nerfed; they fought a successful badass, and everyone's powers were at their pique (Thor for example shooting possibly the biggest lighting bolt in comics, Hulk KO'ing a colossal monster, etc. Meaning in Avengers 2 Ultron probably won't be nerfed either. Which is why I know it will be awesome.
3 years later back on this page. Yeah it took 3 Avengers to hurt him..
Ultron is a lot more badass even his name is more badass then everything brainiac has
Ultron seems unstoppable when it comes to infecting other systems/techno organisms but how good are Ultron's defenses? Could someone else hack into Ultron like Iron Man?
I'm so happy that they picked Ultron as the next villain for the new Avengers movie. It's just so....................magnificent.
A lot of DC cry-baby fanboys on here pointing fingers, but failing to make an argument for why/how Brainiac could beat Ultron. PMayhem makes great points about Ultron in this matchup. Deal with it.
Ultron is a toy thing to Brainiac. Brainiac's feats are incredible. He has the same power levels as Superman physically. He has telepathy, he has the ability to control minds and use technology to put every mind on earth to sleep for good, he has an incredibly powerful and complex personal army. He has bottled entire civilizations and taken their technology. Not only that - Brainiac is basically immortal. His physical body has been duplicated dozens of times.
lairdriver Braniac has more powerful "hardware" but Ultron is the stronger computer. That's what matters in this fight.
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Ultron was thrown into the sun, incinerated and wound up fighting the Guardians later - hundreds if not thousands of light years away. Ultron is simply one of those villains who doesn't go away, and in assimilating him he would simply reverse it and take Brainiac over through reverse engineering whatever tech Brainiac used to subdue him. He's literally Skynet - judgment incarnate.... Just ignore that shitty Genysis movie.
The good thing about Marvel is that they make their characters more unique and interesting than the characters they were inspired of. Their story arcs are way better than DC's.
Ultron would win, he did way more damage in Marvel Universe than Brainiac ever did in DC. The guy is always beaten by Superman alone, where it takes Marvels best teams effort to beat Ultron. Also Adamantium Body for the win.
PerfectMayhem82, I just wanted to suggest some more possible grudge matches for you to consider and would love to see on future grudge matches. First, Reed Richards aka Mr. Fantastic against Plastic Man, Death stroke against the Punisher, Daredevil against Batman, The Juggernaut against Doomsday, and Lex Luthor against the Red Skull, and also black lightening against electro. Finally an all out battle of gods, The Beyonder against Anti Monitor. OK and one kinda of crazy one how about Galactus against Unikrom from the transformers.
ultron is capable of forming tech and knowledge at the same level of brainiac with out the the long process of downloading a planets knowledge, therefore ultron while being originally lower tech has been able to pole vault to brainiacs level, this also means he can go even farther and faster than braniac and eventually out do him.
Ultron is BOSS.
This reminds me of the Daleks vs Cybermen conflict in the series. While I feel Daleks would win out, it would not be impossible for cooperation, considering they are both cyborgs trying to change the universe. In this grudge match, I could see Ultron and Brainiac working together to to dominate everything and eventually merging into one being. Luckily, they are in two universes so it won't happen most likely.
If I'm not mistaken the music in the background is from X Men 2 Clone Wars when the x-men went up against Magneto. Nice selection
Excellent ear you have!
Ultron can also travel through time
What's the music you used in this video titled? And who by?
It's music from the Sega Genesis game "X-Men 2: Attack of the Clones." It's the song that plays when you fight Apocalypse.
Thank you
Uh don't you usually say this isn't a fight to the bitter end just a until one gets taken out of the fight.If you go by this then Ultron wins
Brainiac would consume Ultron and take his abilities.
***** he stands more then a chance. After DC's Convergence story line completes - you will see how powerful Brainiac is. At his core Ultron was based on a human design, Brainiac is ridiculously powerful now and it's basically put him on the same level as Darkseid or even above it.
I know what Ultron can do and what Brainiac can do. Physically speaking - Brainiac has Superman level strength, speed, stamina, and senses. Although Ultron's body is made of Adamantium - it can still be damaged badly enough to destroy what is inside.
Brainiac is beyond what a cyborg is. His sole purpose is to scour Universes - assimilate all knowledge of each planet he encounters - he keeps one city in a bottle and destroys the planet. He also destroys the Sun that is relative to that planet.
Adamantium may be close to indestructible - but humans are able to heat it up enough to form complex shapes. Once it hardens - it is very difficult to destroy but not impossible. Superman's heat vision at full blast would be sufficient to destroy it. Brainiac has technology that could destroy it.
Ultron was Marvel's copy of Brainiac. But they were smart and went about it in a different way. Back when Brainiac was introduced - he was Vril Dox. They stressed his telepathic abilities - over time Brainaic evolved into what you see today.
Then of course you have the fact that Brainiac has 12th level intelligence - which basically renders him all knowing in combination with the knowledge he has absorbed.. it's not really a fair fight.
I like Ultron, he is an intriguing character. I like the fact that he was designed by humans. But Brainiac is an alien and basically considered now a God of Technology. If that is even possible.
Brainiac was able to posses Doomsday for a time as well until Doomsday was able to evolve past his presence.
Do some reading up on Brainiac - you will see what I mean.
***** So who wins in a street fight?
lairdriver HEY, brainiac relies on technology to survive, so ultron can accutally just hijack them
I AGREE!
You don't know anything about ultron
true ultron would win this match but ultron would win the physical match as well cause in another clip from youtube ultron has a body made of Adamantium so no matter what brainiac does brainiac could never defeat ultron in a physical match also
Small point Ultron just hijacked a small group of Phalanx (which he then massively grew) are just ...remote.. digestive enzymes of a sort, for the Technarchy. Who just showed up and undid everything and Ultron had to run away. I am a marvel fan, but I have to give this one to Brainiac, though, much like Capt A vs Batman or Dormammu vs Trigon, this is not a cut and dry and the winner is realistically unknowable.
Ultro might be all that but that doesn't necessary mean that Brainiac isn't. Brainiac was able to outsmart the krytonias, who were known for being more advance than the human race in every way. His destroyed thousand of planets and registered every information/technology those planets had to offer, meaning his probably come across a race like the so called phalax, but it has not been spoken about. He is even capable of controlling humans through the use of certain parasites. His so powerful that he almost took apokalypes, a planet belonging to a god "the all powerful darkseid". Darkseid had to make a deal with him just to escape being destroyed. Now let me reply to the reason you gave about brainiac having one original body. You clearly stated that both characters consciousness has to be placed in a computer to see who will over power who. This means Ultron or Brainiac can't count on other bodies or whatever, because their complete consciousness is in the computer. That cancels the option of having an additional body or consciousness. Besides it seem like the only reason Ultron could take over that race was because they were computer like, meaning he could act as a virus. Brainiac does that every time. How do you think he acquires the knowledge of every planet he attacks. He does exactly the same thing as Ultron. In all honesty, I don't think any is better than the other. This match is automatically a draw.
oh just shut the fuck up already it has ben decided braniac sucks h was beaten by batmanwho is only human and stop liking your own coments
hell hound360
I don't have to fall to petty insults to make my point. The truth is that everyone has their own idea on who would win in a battle between comic character but it would never be true until actually proven on screen, by the creator and even then it can be bias. P.S: you see the +2? That is me liking my comment.
dident you heard what he said he said he took over a clan of aliens that no marvel character calud beat while ultron just for seconds starde mine controlingthe whit the viruse
hell hound360
I did hear that. Now I don't know the clan he mentioned, but from what he said it seems like they were computerized or half machine seeing as they could be controlled through the use of a virus. Last time I checked, Brainiac could also hack into any technology, even those belonging to the krytonians who are considered to be a million light years ahead in technology compared to the human race. Just because DC doesn't produce a lot of stories about Brainiac like Marvel does for Ultron doesn't automatically make Ultron better. For all we know Brainiac would be able to take over that same clan but with a different and more effective plan.
ceep bragin abaout bull shit brainiac ha only brains ultron has more brains and ha power and an enthier clan of robots brainiac never acomplish anything ultron is the first villan tha has achivd world dominence and actuley kil heros
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The background music sounds like it came from an old Sega Genesis X-Men 2 game, exactly like it!
At the very least Ultron and Brainiac would merge into a singular programming and then we'd all be screwed
Well ultron destroyed the marvel universe......
20 times....and even kang the conqueror
And they did not even stop him
They just had to tell him to stop before he breaks time and space
And ultron understood that all that battling would not really get him to his goal because kang kept reversing time to try and get a new outcome which did not happen
I think i am gonna need better anti virus software after knowing their powers.
well I have a question, if the phalaxs, did what they tried to do to ultron, to brainiac, do you think brainiac could have done the same thing to them that ultron did ? because hasn't brainiac traveled solar systems and assimilate and collect entire planets and civilizations ?
I really can't commit on this outcome because I'm a little confused. Maybe it's because I followed different media other than comics concerning Braniac; from comics to Animated TV shows to even Smallville. I thought Brainiac was the brain interactive construct of the planet Krypton. who after it was destroyed, survived by transferring to different planets or technolgy and assimilating the knowledge of those. Someone please let me know the real origin of Brainiac please.
Nope. That was retconned for the cartoons (and I guess for Smallville, I don't know since I didn't watch it). The real, original origin of Brainiac was exactly as I explained it in this video.
***** question is Brainac 5 smarter than them sorry im a noob
Rusty Spork Well, I suppose it depends on how you measure "smarter." Brainiac 5 is from the future and as such, has access to super-advanced technology and science beyond anything either Ultron or Brainiac has ever had access to. So Brainiac 5 has access to more and greater information. But is his basic IQ greater? I would tend to say yes, but it's tricky. Brainiac 5 is an organic being rather than a computer mind, so I think there are some inherent limits to what an organic brain can do. But i'm not 100% on that. I'm not super read up on the Legion of Super Heroes.
thanks for replys man
This would be a tie. In real life neither of these villains could really be destroyed.
What about Ultron vs. modok ? And Brainiac vs Modok ?
Wow! resistance is futile!!!
I totally agree with this video.
of course Ultron won, its fucking Ultron! and after seeing flash being able to beat Brainiac in JLU I lost a lot of respect for him/it. The young avengers couldn't even beat Ultron it was hulk XD and even then Ultron had knocked hulk out but wasps son made him even more angry and he destroyed ultron then they scattered his remains in space so his healing factor couldn't commence.
In pure technology level Ultron might be more advanced but Brainiac gave me the impression of being much more intelligent and possessing intuition, which Ultron does not seem to have.
Imagine the games you could play on the hardware these guys are running.
Pre-Crisis Brainiac, the original version, was an android. Post-Crisis, he only became an android after several appearances, each time taking in more tech..
Yea this was a no brainer and I mean in favor of ULTRON if it comes to who shall prevail with more tech wisdom... ULTRON trumps Braniac ... But Braniac seems more galactic tho So I agree here
If a probe or any technology connected to brainiac came into contact with even a radio signal version of Ultron he would take control and memorize every bit of data Brainiac has. Leaving Brainiac just a naked green guy.
But honestly it could go either way.
Ultron wins because he has his own movie & he's more popular.
Bhutt Hert He was garbage in the film, well the whole film was even so it don't even matter smh
+The Opinionated Nut Never got an answer. ^^
Chris Purolover Why i gotta be a nut? :(
shane fish I'm on ya ass now! What? "The Opinionated Nut" That's his name, dude.
Oh, I'm tripping. I half read that shit my bad xD
I think it would be a stalemate bc both are vastly powerful super geniuses with advanced technology.They would both analyze each orhers strengths\weaknesses and find none to be exploited by either one.
i think he has done a great job on this battle, i completly agree with this.
Imagine if they merged into one being somehow? Id love to see them team up, perhaps in an animated dc/marvel movie
Brainiac is like a DC version of the Borg while Ultron is more like the Doomsday Machine. Ultron just kills while Brainiac assimilates then kills and is half organic.
Link please, while it is true that QS has time jumped (not time traveled) the flash has traveled in time, as shown in the flashpoint paradox, when he(flash) jumped through time and created an entirely different universe, resulting in the new 52. QS has never done something that far-reaching(to my knowledge)
I'm pro marvel but wouldn't brianiac hacking into war world be a better feat
The beyonder Only if you believe that Warworld is of higher technical proficiency than the Phalanx.
***** I mean war world is a very advanced technological planet as well, it's basically hybrid death star/ planet. If we're talking Jeff Johns version of brianiac then I don't c ultron being to counter hack this guy, brianiacs soul purpose is 2 hack advanced world's 4 information he usually doesn't get his hands dirty. Hell brainiac in our world's at war if I can remember absorbed thee energy of imperiexe, that's far more impressive than the pheylixn sorry if I spelled wrong
***** bro imperiexe is way way more powerful than Odin, imperiexe is DCs galactus only more powerful
Imperiexe is way above skyfather level lol!!! Hey I'm a pro marvel fan it'd be close but I'd edge it to brianiac
Lol the sarcasm 1st of all the I was talking 2 brought up a feat were ultron! Became Odin! Therefor I said imperiexe is above odin!!! So b4 you make a sarcastic comment look at wuts being said
Knowledge is power that is the undisputed fact that governs and separate's the weak from the strong, the leaders from the followers. Simply using this undeniable fact, one can say that he who has great knowledge wields great power this is true. Applying this fact of life to this problem it becomes quite simple to produce a victor, Braniac having immense knowledge on technology, and Military tactics spanning centuries from thousands of different civilizations makes him the victor since his goal is I'm fact to gain MORE knowledge. In the end finding a way to combat the so called Ultron virus backed by Millions of years of technolgical advances spanning countless civilizations. Braniac is largely under estimated. I believe Braniac would be the victor for aquiring so much information.
Only using the information given from the video and your comment. Ultron would have more advanced knowledge since he was confirmed to have conquered a massively advanced civilization. Ultron has more knowledge and therefore more power.
That's all well and good but Ultron is purely data, with a thinking capability to study centuries of data in a matter of seconds. It doesn't matter how long Brainiac has spent "learning", Ultron would catch up in the span hours if not a day's worth.
Tbh both of them would just come to the conclusion that combined they are unbeatable and then they’d just assimilate one another
Sinse both programs have the same vision wouldn't they just combine data and merge.
Brainiac is not limited to machines and can actually infected organics as well.
Fact that's missing is that Brainiac has conquered and destroyed many civilizations in the universe collecting them even kryptonians and poised a threat to Darkseid's planet Apocalypse, where ultron has not.
Brainiac conquered weak civilizations.
LarryBonson I think the Kyprtonians are probably the most powerful civilization in the DC universe.
jomossino Brainiac never conquered or destroyed the Kryptonians. The destruction of their planet was a natural event. Brainiac had nothing to do with it. All he managed to do was kidnap some Kryptonians and miniaturize them.
If you see it that way. In my opinion he did conquer them if he achieved what he did. I never claimed he destroyed them as he knew they were doomed anyway.
Yer smoked sir Ultron is like a pocket calculator an Brainiac is a supercomputer so advanced he is almost making himself a living sentient being
Um...Brainiac IS a living sentient being.
What about Luther and Braniac merging ? That is one major event that gives rise to Braniac-Darksied merge and then to a final solution to the Anti-life equation.
Event: Justice League The animated series.
What about it? For one, the cartoon series is non-canon. The comics are the source that is used here. For two, it wouldn't exactly matter if they had been merged at one time. This isn't a fight between Ultron and Luthor/Brainiac. It's a fight between Ultron and Brainiac. Luthor doesn't factor into it at all.
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Yes I totally get what you are trying to explain here. I just pointed out this non-canon even because if Ultron and Phalanx can be a major plus point then why can't these DC events taken into consideration. But again yes as comics are the only source used here its fair enough.
***** Hey mayhem, this is a little off topic, but if you saw TASM 2, Electro isn't really "dead" is he? his electricity is somewhere right? lol
daboss258 Pretty much, yeah. I think he was expected to make a return in the "Sinister Six" movie that has since been shelved.
***** Would've really liked to see him in future films but oh well. and btw keep up with the vids bro, their awesome!
Wasn't there a super computer from Krypton that was involved in in some way in krypton's demise?
I agree with most of your vids but i call BS on this one.
Anyway most people in the comments agree with me. And on comic vine the majority of people agree with Brainiac. Most people on comic vine know more about comics than people on youtube. MAJORITY FOR THE WIN!!!!!!
Here are some final suggestions for grudge matches. Bane vs Luke Cage, Killer Kroc vs the Lizard, Simon (the teen titans comics) vs MODOK, Thor vs Rayden from mortal combat, Lobo vs THING, Iceman vs Killer Frost, The Joker vs Green Goblin, Lex Luther vs The Kingpin. Subzero (MK) vs Mr. Freeze, and Parasite vs Absorbing Man.
Ultron causes more Impact than Brainiac when he does something in the marvel universe
I thought this was gonna be a draw till you made that last point.
His last point does not count because he clearly stated that both of their consciousness will be in a computer for the fight, meaning no additional body or anything.
Ah excellent point as well.
I'd say in a tech battle Braniac, having technology gathered all across the DCU would beat Ultron, who's tech is limited to earth.
how does deleting the knowledge that he absorbed allow brainiac to destroy the universe
The real question is, which one runs on Linux? =D
How on earth will the avengers deal with Ultron in the sequel!?
Hopefully in a none BS way. In several different stories, Ultron kills nearly all of the heroes, and probably the villains, in Marvel. I want to see Ultron give the Avengers an ultimate smackdown/brain fu**ing they will never forget.
Galaxy threat? Braniac has taken over whole universes. He's also done the same thing.
No he hasn't.
*****
You should consider reading the forever evil issue for Braniac. Just saiyan. And yes, I'm well aware that the new 52 is a reboot.
Though I prefer Ultron, I give this to Brainiac. He has access to the technology of thousands of worlds. Ultron is somewhat limited.
At least they don't team up. If they did that the universe is screwed.
He got Brainiac's origin all wrong. He was ORIGINALLY an android made on
the planet Colu.
Dr. Manhattan is so underrated, he would win considering SS doesn't have enough fire power to "kill" him, if that is even possible considering he doesn't exist in the same place of time and reality. Dr. Manhattan on the other hand would just have to make multiple planet sized clones of himself, each of which can destroy the planet with energy blasts just by raising their hand.
My opinion this could go either ways Ultrons finding Brainiac lair and beating Him on massive troops or Brainiac having the power of knowledge throughout the galaxy may already know ultron's weakness then exposing it using it to ultron's demised. I am at par at this battle. This is how I see this battle would go. One edge on Brainiac is he can manipulate by blackmail ex. superman to keep louise alive for exmple then ask Superman to defeat ultron for him. Ultron doesnt have a history of doing such act;lastly depends on which brainiac it is Brainiac 5 is from the future has edge of knowledge on his time to defeat Ultron as well. but i would stick to 50-50 on this. I won't mention wasp as ultron's weakness anymore.
I highly doubt ultron would outhack brainiac, Brainiac once controlled the minds of just about everyone on planet earth.
What does self aware mean?
+Jacob McLellan It means sentience. It means being aware of one's own existence and one's own ego in a way that extends beyond mere programming.
aka being alive
strongly agree
Your right, Brainiac has controlled galaxies
So ultron is just an average robot with the same purpose as all robot enemies just to whip out all organics I mean brainiac has a purpose why he kill all life to gain the knowledge but ultron just dose it cuz he's a robot?
I can see old brainiac losing for sure, but modern brainiac not so much
Makes sense Ultron's A.I. was based on the humann mind and so he is less governed by logic(a false one at that) than Brainiac.
hmmm if ultron doesn't have a centrally driven concept, then isn't it also true that "ultron" doesn't exist succinctly, that any one of his variants could become the dominant form, doesn't that leave him susceptible to destruction by difference, i.e., that one of his dispersed ultron forms rebels against the ultron collective?
in this sense braniac has a central form and controls every form of himself and has less flexibility, but ultimately retains a sense of self.
maybe one could argue that braniac, being centralized, could capitalize on this concept, and cause a civil war within ultron variants, all of whom would be interested in their own self-preservation, while brainiac's minions, not having that sort of autonomy, wouldn't be concerned as much with self-preservation and undauntingly eradicate any opposition.
I don't think you are understanding how Ultron's consciousness works. His different bodies do not all have their own separate consciousnesses. It is one consciousness diffused throughout many different bodies. One single Ultron body could no more revolt against the rest any more than one strand of hair on your head could revolt against the rest of your body. Or your finger couldn't rebel against you. When two or more Ultron bodies are in the same place at the same time, its not two separate Ultron consciousnesses that just think very much alike. There is only one Ultron there...just inside of both bodies simultaneously.
***** the distinction I'm trying to make is whether a centrally located consciousness that directs the rest is of any advantage over his "minions" so to speak.
Instead of hair or fingers I think a more apt comparison would be cancer, where mutations cause cells to replicate inside one's own body and cause havoc.
For instance, if one of ultron's other bodies was directed to do something that would end the existence of that unit, is it possible that that unit might develop a sense of self-preservation? Wouldn't that be a weak point that could be manipulated?
Given Brainiac's vast repository of knowledge, surely he would have encountered other civilizations that had been devastated by the ai's they had produced, and perhaps that is why he is specifically centrally located in one body.
I think it's germane to consider whether the differences in how they operate, and their distinct sense of self wouldn't be central to how they would engage each other in a stand off.
I'm just stabbing in the dark btw. Just thought it was an interesting concept to bring to the discussion.
Which Captain Atom? Most Atom's would get slaughtered by SS, but if you count Monarch, then you have a chance.
punisher vs batman, note that'll be a cool fight (unless it's in a land comic series from 1987)
Batman vs black panther, flash vs Quicksilver, green goblin vs joker, lex Luthor vs Tony Stark
Vril Dox? The green guy from Legion?
hmm I thought ultron was built by iron man well you learn something new every day
Why can't Braniac just hack into Ultron
Feats aren't everything dude it's gonna be like what they can do to each other
After watching quite a few of these now and agreeing with you probably on 90% of them this is one I cannot agree with you on based on the way for winning (overwriting the other) I cannot see how Brainiac is inferior to Ultron on this matter. I guess it could be about the time when you did the video but current incarnation of Brainiac would not lose.
okay that makes more sense. All LIFE is no where close to the entire universe.
No way friendo!!! Brainiac is a villain that has basically turned himself into an Ultron. With all of Ultrons strengths and none of his weaknesses. He was and is a living thing which gives him more perspective and better understanding that a machine might not get. Plus even though Ultron has been concurring some other alien races how is he gonna surpass somebody thats been doing it much much much longer then him? On top of that Brainiac has conquered and absorbed way more advanced being then human. Just that alone would make Brainiac the winner.
***** That's my point though. Ultron is made from earths tech and computer programs. How you gonna tell me he took over or conquered a race of living technology?!!! They would be leaps and bounds ahead of him. Just like Brainiac himself would be. It wouldn't evwn be close. It's like the comparison of technology from 1980 competing with today's tech. How you gonna say that Ultron is gonna compete or take over living beings that are problably thousands and thousands of years ahead of not just humans but Ultron too. Come on bro.
***** I agree with the comic logic part. But Ultron cant even conquer earth with simple earth tech. Now you're gonna try and say he goes and conquers far more intelligent beings with one body. Obviously comic book logic makes no sense but come on we can call it when we see it. Ultron has all humans knowledge and technology at his fingertips. Meanwhile Brainic has the knowledge and tech of many many different more waaaayyyy more advance worlds. Its not even close really. It's like an ant trying to conquer humans. Come on son. Ultron still runs on windows.
@PerfectMayhem82 THAT'S YOUR PERCEPTION BUT AS WE ALL KNOW PERCEPTION AND REALITY ARE TWO ENTIRELY SEPARATE THINGS!
donn409 I think your caps lock may be stuck. You might want to check that.
Bull Crap Ultron would win. By the time Brainiac comes around he has already taken in and assimilated the knowledge and technology of so many other civilizations. Ultron is limited to earth until he goes to space. If you are going based on when the two characters are introduced, Brainiac wins, because he has the knowledge and technology of the cosmos, whereas Ultron only has earth.
He did win...
Ultron controlled the world. Brainiac can't say that.
Ive seen many of ur matches- lex luthor defeated by tony stark
Hqwkeye defeats green arrow
Ultron defeats brainiac
Next time make a grudge match btw spiderman and THE PRESENCE and the winner is spidey
the WILSONS08 lol dc has more wins than marvel