In the last year, I went through all those 6 options. It is sad that this industry is in such an awful state. We went from "I can get a job whenever I want, my LinkedIn is full of offers", to "my LinkedIn is a ghost town...3000 people are applying to the same job..." It all happened overnight (over a year). Now, it feels like we are fighting for scraps. Good Luck, everyone.
I had the same experience. I thought I would have a new job in no time because there's a huge demand for devs. Not the case. I have been looking for a job for quite some time now but nothing yet. Panic mode activated 😒
1. Become a more valuable developer - 01:06 2. Become a "business" developer - 02:14 3. Become a Freelancer - 03:25 4. Build & sell your own products - 04:06 5. Become a content creator - 05:14 6. New/old profession? - 06:23
I'm a Java Developer since 2016.. I have college, certifications and all the stuff you can imagine.. I'm really planning going to a trucking career as was my grandfather.
I'm just starting my internship. I honestly don't know what to do. I have been studying for 1 year just to get in as prepared as possible, so "turning around" at this point before even finishing seems complicated to me because I have just come from Make a change.I have also worked as a recruiter. What do you recommend?
@@DS-kr3lm If I were you, I would continue with the internship, because you have achieved the hardest part, which is entering the job market, but I would have a plan B in store.
@@thewolfofswingthat2035 Self driving trucks were a promise in 2014, 2015... in that time I was thinking exactly the same, "poor truck drivers, they will be replaced and I will have my steady job as a developer", nowadays the reality seems the opposite. Automated driving trucks are far to be a reality and developers are fearing losing their jobs. As I intend to be a truck driver in europe where the streets are narrow and very hard to manouver, this career will last long. I'm aware that self trucking drive is a reality in open highways but with irrelevant adoption.
I pivoted to Local SEO with R&R model. I basically copied 4 best ranking software funcionalities in to my custom tool, automated 4 more for LinkBuilding. I trained VA to use my custom tools. Im using same website structure template for all websites. I connected page builder to custom GPT so it does basic Onpage outoff the box. Im currently making a tool that will take output of my custom tool and optimise webpage directly so I don't need VA anymore and ill save additional $1500/m. Programmable SEO is the way to go.
Being always afraid your website lose traffic because search algo has changed. As a side hustle I guess it can be, but main income source, no thank you.
Been in software development for 15 years. Last couple of years was thinking when all this is going to collapse. It became so inflated, in 1000 products maybe 1 is worth anything, corporate lifestyle, pointless meetings all the time. On contrary, there is ton of work, ton of valuable stuff to do, instead of creating copies of a copies of a copies of useless websites / systems. AI / blockchain are just basics. Projects, that will help humanity move forward, evolve - this is the future. There are countless things in my mind to build, but I'm just chilling, cuz I did my time. Time will come tho to put my fingers on a keyboard again.
@@stefantrajkovic9392 Nothing bad about that, also did gardening for 5 years or so. Cleaning, planting, cutting etc. I liked that more than wood working! Nature and stuff I guess :)
Carpenter. I'd become a woodworker to make stuff. No stress, no deadlines, no deploy days. Just wood. You fucked up? Take another log and start over. Learn what you like more and what makes you happy, because in the end, you will burn out and change your path
Thank you for your valuable advice. Some of these concepts may already be clear to us, but you've sparked new ideas that will help us step out of our comfort zone.
I've been in the realm of freelancing, content creation, and building my own product. It's hard, but TH-cam is getting some traction now. Hopefully it continues.
All the options you mentioned are fantastic, but I personally chose to become a content creator (option B). It's been a great way to improve my skills. The process of researching and finding new topics for TH-cam videos has forced me to think critically and learn new things
i was hired as a web developer, after 6 months i was fired because there was no improvements from my side, when i was given bigger tasks i made bad impressions, again i am in search of web developer jobs, if i will not find any job, i will work as a bold courier
@@sandrahufford8858 grass is always greener I guess. I baked a little as teen. At a European deli. Gotta admit, its more physically demanding than I imagined lifting all them sacks of flour or a 40 quart industrial size mixing bowl with dough.
@@sandrahufford8858I guess the best option is trying mixing baking with programming for example try making a croissant shaping machine, production lines can have plenty of options/avenues for incorporating programming but it must be done together with some mechanical and electrical engineering stuff to make the code be able to operate in the “real world”, Also WebDev is less appropriate for that kind of stuff than EmbeddedDev which is a really interesting programming sub field. People always need to eat so customers are guaranteed here
I’m switching to freelance writing work. Technical writing and technology based writing. The job market just doesn’t seem worth it. I’m employed at a big tech company, but anything can happen. Even if you get a job, if it’s too hard to find another one, is it really worth it? They can treat you poorly and you will have no choice but to put up with it. So, I’m looking into writing opportunities and other services (content creation, AI automation, etc…). Id rather freelance or become an influencer than work a 9-5. It’s 2024 after all.
AI made me dislike being a programmer. Before, it was an elite craft, doing a black magic thing and being considered smart. Today it feels like we're only doing that to feed the AI meant to replace us at some point anyway. This is just cruel and feels wrong to teach a technology that is going to replace you!
20 yrs ago I was an electrician at the largest pipeline in the US. I've applied for some technical jobs, but so far no luck. Thinking about taking accounting classes.
Food business is insanely difficult. There're million ways to screw up and you basically have just one shot to try. if you fail - most of the investments are non refundable. Like how are you gonna get back interior finishing costs and cost of custom furniture that has little to no application in other places?
Homeless. Software dev, working from home, 6-7h schedule or nothing. I neither know how to do something else nor I want to learn something else nor I'd work some physycal labor job that requires me to leave the house. No, call center operator from home is not an option, I hate interacting with people. How do you have time for extra work as freelancer ? Even after 7h schedule of work I am in no mood to make software anymore, especially if it is another project than what I am doing at work.
Funny timing this video because after 20+ years in development I have decided to go do something completely else. I can't see myself sitting behind a screen all day for another 20+ years because as I grow older I feel that it's not good for me and my body. Also, I think with the rapid development of AI and assisted coding the demand for developers will decline. Of course developers will always be needed but my guess is that the demand will shrink significantly and I want to be ahead of that. I'm going to focus on something that simply cannot be replaced by AI.
I have a job currently but sometimes I do wonder what else I could make. Electrician would be nice. Pays well, you sit inside most of the time. Just need to get my certificate. The Job market is in demand and especially for people that have a talent for it. Development management internal or external would be interesting but I just don't know if it would stick.
Electrician has a long ramp-up before it pays well and it is somewhat more physically demanding I'm not sure it's easy to get an Apprenticeship unless you're quite young to begin with. What's it like where you are?
the Factory management system I build with Laravel is going to be replaced with ERP Next in a few months and the company keeps avoiding answering any questions about my future with them. should I go with Option 1 and learn Frappe and ERP Next to maintain my job or go elsewhere looking for Laravel jobs
I switched to Reddit marketing 2 months ago. I swear I'll never ever develop anything in my life with this except a game, which was always my hobby. I just need to optimize for time
These kind of videos popping up on the internet, makes me sacred to even study (currently in clg earning a degree in software engineering) ..if it's so bad for seniors in the industry, will it be worth the effort i put in to just to try to enter the industry? I am having doubts about my life choices.
I'm a degree graduate this year. I have been taking up solo projects for the last 4-5 months on top of this and I feel like I am ready to take on a junior role. I had a full time dev role a few years ago before starting university so I have a year of experience on my CV. I have experience with mostly TALL stack stuff and recently laravel/inertia/vue, I haven't even had an interview for a job yet! I'm really concerned about how long it's going to take to even get started as a junior in this industry at the moment.
you are in big trouble. So many swes with over 10 years experience can't find a job. You think companies are going to to train you up when they could get an experienced swe to do the job very easily. You are cooked my friend. Start looking at another career because swe is pretty much dead especially for juniors. Don't waste anymore time. Start a new career now!
Hi, your videos from the car are always very informative about developers’ careers. By the way, your hometown seems like a very beautiful place. Why don’t you shoot these videos outside, such as in a park?
You should be very lucky in order for your valuable skills to be noticed and awarded. Most companies nowadays are toxic environment where extra-initiative could get you into troubles
So many online courses about programming, but none for "Marketing and sales for a programmer". Sales is so difficult, almost obnoxious even as a thought. How to overcome this mindset to start selling?
My advice is to become a freelancer while you keep your current job. And if that goes well, just do less at your main job and do more at freelance position. If you been with a company for more then 3 years there is not much you can do about what people think about you. Managers see you as player X and you cant do anything to become Y.
It is really tough to see this happening also in the West. The development market is flooded with workers. but there is not enough demand. I wish I cloud find a plan B outside IT market.
Hey laravel , really nice video ! I was wondering if I could help you with more Quality Editing in your videos and also make a highly engaging Thumbnail and also help you with the overall youtube strategy and growth ! Pls let me know what do you think ?
i've been php and js developer for a while. as a contingency plan , is it a good idea if i am going to do SAP career since my current company is doing ERP (SAP) . please advice
I would say that is a good plan B, as SAP is used worldwide. There always are offers for app architects, tech support or ABAP programmers. Companies like accenture, fpt, even Deutche telekom still hire a lot.
In the last year, I went through all those 6 options.
It is sad that this industry is in such an awful state. We went from "I can get a job whenever I want, my LinkedIn is full of offers", to "my LinkedIn is a ghost town...3000 people are applying to the same job..."
It all happened overnight (over a year). Now, it feels like we are fighting for scraps.
Good Luck, everyone.
I had the same experience. I thought I would have a new job in no time because there's a huge demand for devs. Not the case. I have been looking for a job for quite some time now but nothing yet. Panic mode activated 😒
@@GavinHewitt Don't panic. Deep breath and stay strong. We will overcome thees times of peril.
1. Become a more valuable developer - 01:06
2. Become a "business" developer - 02:14
3. Become a Freelancer - 03:25
4. Build & sell your own products - 04:06
5. Become a content creator - 05:14
6. New/old profession? - 06:23
The TH-cam hero we need.
So he went with option 5...
thank you my good sir
If I stop being a Laravel/Vue developer, I'd love to be a farmer like my father, lol.
My same plan B
That's my plan too,it's not to be shy off. I am getting an hectare of land this month
The developer to farmer trope is alive and well
We all want that ♥
But wht shld i do... I know nothing else...
I'm a Java Developer since 2016.. I have college, certifications and all the stuff you can imagine.. I'm really planning going to a trucking career as was my grandfather.
I'm just starting my internship. I honestly don't know what to do. I have been studying for 1 year just to get in as prepared as possible, so "turning around" at this point before even finishing seems complicated to me because I have just come from Make a change.I have also worked as a recruiter. What do you recommend?
@@DS-kr3lm If I were you, I would continue with the internship, because you have achieved the hardest part, which is entering the job market, but I would have a plan B in store.
self driving trucks says hi
@@thewolfofswingthat2035 Self driving trucks were a promise in 2014, 2015... in that time I was thinking exactly the same, "poor truck drivers, they will be replaced and I will have my steady job as a developer", nowadays the reality seems the opposite. Automated driving trucks are far to be a reality and developers are fearing losing their jobs. As I intend to be a truck driver in europe where the streets are narrow and very hard to manouver, this career will last long. I'm aware that self trucking drive is a reality in open highways but with irrelevant adoption.
@@Lucas-iv6ld its a joke. come on
It's not shame to work even unqualified jobs.
I pivoted to Local SEO with R&R model. I basically copied 4 best ranking software funcionalities in to my custom tool, automated 4 more for LinkBuilding. I trained VA to use my custom tools. Im using same website structure template for all websites. I connected page builder to custom GPT so it does basic Onpage outoff the box. Im currently making a tool that will take output of my custom tool and optimise webpage directly so I don't need VA anymore and ill save additional $1500/m. Programmable SEO is the way to go.
Being always afraid your website lose traffic because search algo has changed. As a side hustle I guess it can be, but main income source, no thank you.
Been in software development for 15 years. Last couple of years was thinking when all this is going to collapse. It became so inflated, in 1000 products maybe 1 is worth anything, corporate lifestyle, pointless meetings all the time. On contrary, there is ton of work, ton of valuable stuff to do, instead of creating copies of a copies of a copies of useless websites / systems. AI / blockchain are just basics. Projects, that will help humanity move forward, evolve - this is the future. There are countless things in my mind to build, but I'm just chilling, cuz I did my time. Time will come tho to put my fingers on a keyboard again.
Did wood working for almost ten years. Went into IT for around 15 years. Looks like im going to go back to wood working lol
Why wtf is it that bad
@@stefantrajkovic9392 Nothing bad about that, also did gardening for 5 years or so. Cleaning, planting, cutting etc. I liked that more than wood working! Nature and stuff I guess :)
Carpenter. I'd become a woodworker to make stuff. No stress, no deadlines, no deploy days. Just wood. You fucked up? Take another log and start over. Learn what you like more and what makes you happy, because in the end, you will burn out and change your path
Like the boy of of braking bead serie. I’d like farming.
My boss wanted to give me a PIP. I quit and retired. F- that shit. He can keep workin like a dog. Me, I'm done.
Valuable + Business Developer are actually what most organizations look for.
Thank you for your valuable advice. Some of these concepts may already be clear to us, but you've sparked new ideas that will help us step out of our comfort zone.
Fuck software development. I'm applying for government staff
I've been in the realm of freelancing, content creation, and building my own product. It's hard, but TH-cam is getting some traction now. Hopefully it continues.
All the options you mentioned are fantastic, but I personally chose to become a content creator (option B). It's been a great way to improve my skills. The process of researching and finding new topics for TH-cam videos has forced me to think critically and learn new things
i was hired as a web developer, after 6 months i was fired because there was no improvements from my side, when i was given bigger tasks i made bad impressions, again i am in search of web developer jobs, if i will not find any job, i will work as a bold courier
Much anticipated video from you. Thanks 😍
I know 3 people who went from web dev to baker.
I own a bakery and trying to go the opposite direction!
@@sandrahufford8858 grass is always greener I guess.
I baked a little as teen. At a European deli. Gotta admit, its more physically demanding than I imagined lifting all them sacks of flour or a 40 quart industrial size mixing bowl with dough.
@@sandrahufford8858I guess the best option is trying mixing baking with programming for example try making a croissant shaping machine, production lines can have plenty of options/avenues for incorporating programming but it must be done together with some mechanical and electrical engineering stuff to make the code be able to operate in the “real world”, Also WebDev is less appropriate for that kind of stuff than EmbeddedDev which is a really interesting programming sub field. People always need to eat so customers are guaranteed here
I’m switching to freelance writing work. Technical writing and technology based writing.
The job market just doesn’t seem worth it. I’m employed at a big tech company, but anything can happen. Even if you get a job, if it’s too hard to find another one, is it really worth it? They can treat you poorly and you will have no choice but to put up with it.
So, I’m looking into writing opportunities and other services (content creation, AI automation, etc…).
Id rather freelance or become an influencer than work a 9-5. It’s 2024 after all.
AI made me dislike being a programmer. Before, it was an elite craft, doing a black magic thing and being considered smart. Today it feels like we're only doing that to feed the AI meant to replace us at some point anyway. This is just cruel and feels wrong to teach a technology that is going to replace you!
20 yrs ago I was an electrician at the largest pipeline in the US. I've applied for some technical jobs, but so far no luck. Thinking about taking accounting classes.
I was thinking to open a coffee shop or cash wash setup as a side income.
Washing cash is good but criminal ;)
Food business is insanely difficult. There're million ways to screw up and you basically have just one shot to try. if you fail - most of the investments are non refundable. Like how are you gonna get back interior finishing costs and cost of custom furniture that has little to no application in other places?
It's always nice to have a plan B, just in case 😅
Great video!
Homeless. Software dev, working from home, 6-7h schedule or nothing. I neither know how to do something else nor I want to learn something else nor I'd work some physycal labor job that requires me to leave the house. No, call center operator from home is not an option, I hate interacting with people.
How do you have time for extra work as freelancer ? Even after 7h schedule of work I am in no mood to make software anymore, especially if it is another project than what I am doing at work.
Very relatable. I've been stuck on just thinking what else to even do for a very long time now. I can't work it out.
i switched to EE so im trying to not being poor that way this time. im really happy
Funny timing this video because after 20+ years in development I have decided to go do something completely else. I can't see myself sitting behind a screen all day for another 20+ years because as I grow older I feel that it's not good for me and my body. Also, I think with the rapid development of AI and assisted coding the demand for developers will decline. Of course developers will always be needed but my guess is that the demand will shrink significantly and I want to be ahead of that. I'm going to focus on something that simply cannot be replaced by AI.
I'm in a similar position myself. The question is, what to move in to?
@@unverifiedcontact4281Farming. You should become as much autonomous as you can. Own food, own electricity
I have a job currently but sometimes I do wonder what else I could make.
Electrician would be nice. Pays well, you sit inside most of the time. Just need to get my certificate. The Job market is in demand and especially for people that have a talent for it.
Development management internal or external would be interesting but I just don't know if it would stick.
Electrician has a long ramp-up before it pays well and it is somewhat more physically demanding I'm not sure it's easy to get an Apprenticeship unless you're quite young to begin with. What's it like where you are?
Sometimes it's just better to throw in the towel , do your own thing
the Factory management system I build with Laravel is going to be replaced with ERP Next in a few months and the company keeps avoiding answering any questions about my future with them. should I go with Option 1 and learn Frappe and ERP Next to maintain my job or go elsewhere looking for Laravel jobs
I think learning ERP Next would be a viable option. But it depends, I can't answer what you should do, every situation is individual.
I switched to Reddit marketing 2 months ago. I swear I'll never ever develop anything in my life with this except a game, which was always my hobby. I just need to optimize for time
Network! Making friends along your career is so important. These people will pop up when you need them!
These kind of videos popping up on the internet, makes me sacred to even study (currently in clg earning a degree in software engineering) ..if it's so bad for seniors in the industry, will it be worth the effort i put in to just to try to enter the industry? I am having doubts about my life choices.
am working as a technician in a pc store currnetly with being a developper I am quite the opposite I want to work less and be more focuse on coding
I'm a degree graduate this year. I have been taking up solo projects for the last 4-5 months on top of this and I feel like I am ready to take on a junior role. I had a full time dev role a few years ago before starting university so I have a year of experience on my CV. I have experience with mostly TALL stack stuff and recently laravel/inertia/vue, I haven't even had an interview for a job yet! I'm really concerned about how long it's going to take to even get started as a junior in this industry at the moment.
There's only one way to find out :)
@@LaravelDaily I’ve been trying! There’s such a lack of junior jobs in the UK market right now, there’s hardly anything 😅
@@sjwatts20 It's more probable than winning a lottery.
It's not UK market, it's all over the world, unfortunately.
you are in big trouble. So many swes with over 10 years experience can't find a job. You think companies are going to to train you up when they could get an experienced swe to do the job very easily.
You are cooked my friend.
Start looking at another career because swe is pretty much dead especially for juniors.
Don't waste anymore time. Start a new career now!
Hi, your videos from the car are always very informative about developers’ careers. By the way, your hometown seems like a very beautiful place. Why don’t you shoot these videos outside, such as in a park?
Because it's extra effort for me to find a quiet place, rely on weather, etc. I wanna focus my limited time on content.
It would work well in California...perfect weaher most of the time...
You should be very lucky in order for your valuable skills to be noticed and awarded. Most companies nowadays are toxic environment where extra-initiative could get you into troubles
I think about accounting as secondary role
It seems like you front camera has mirror mode on, you look good without this mirror mode
So many online courses about programming, but none for "Marketing and sales for a programmer". Sales is so difficult, almost obnoxious even as a thought. How to overcome this mindset to start selling?
I could create such course, but not sure how popular that would be, to be honest.
@@LaravelDaily I would buy it for sure.
My advice is to become a freelancer while you keep your current job. And if that goes well, just do less at your main job and do more at freelance position. If you been with a company for more then 3 years there is not much you can do about what people think about you. Managers see you as player X and you cant do anything to become Y.
Thanks 😊
It is really tough to see this happening also in the West.
The development market is flooded with workers. but there is not enough demand.
I wish I cloud find a plan B outside IT market.
While Powell fights against inflation there will be no demand. 😅 Watch his speech in Congress 2022. He told everything regarding his plan.
So what happend if we only know make code? any suggestions ?
Basically become a sales person.
There is one last option: Military :)
Hey laravel , really nice video ! I was wondering if I could help you with more Quality Editing in your videos and also make a highly engaging Thumbnail and also help you with the overall youtube strategy and growth ! Pls let me know what do you think ?
I am thinking about cyber security and hacking web apps
i've been php and js developer for a while. as a contingency plan , is it a good idea if i am going to do SAP career since my current company is doing ERP (SAP) . please advice
If you can be valuable in that field, in your current/future company, then sure. But I don't know enough about ERP/SAP market, do your research.
I would say that is a good plan B, as SAP is used worldwide. There always are offers for app architects, tech support or ABAP programmers. Companies like accenture, fpt, even Deutche telekom still hire a lot.
@@martinsinansky2817 Thank you for the suggestion.
@@martinsinansky2817 Thank you for the suggession.
Nobody wants to work. We just need money to live. I want an early retirement
First 3 options are not Plans B at all, the rest is a real talk
farmer
Why today's screen is swaying.
Not sure.
craft direction. that is only that has business right now. p.s. 6 Options for "Plan B" from the video LOL
This 👆