"Can't imagine it's selling well". None of us could. The whole fandom got taken aback when Hulk suddenly started outselling Batman in the middle of the run. Usually, only things that outsell Batman are big events, launches of a big new book or Spider-Man. Hulk suddenly jumping over Batman in middle of his run may even got Batman writer fired.
@@ingmarfris8175 I think the thing with Tom King is that he can only work within a short run or something contained, perhaps only with certain characters. Like he's surprisingly good at writing Superman in Up in The Sky. His Mr. Miracle book is also really good. But for some reason with Batman, it just doesn't feel right.
"It's somewhere totally foreign, totally alien and unknowable, but somewhere familiar and when you go there you realize the horrible truth that you've always been there. You just didn't know it." I forgot what channel I was watching for a moment at this point and thought we were bringing back the Eyeball Zone mid-video transitions.
"Matter-eater Kid: He Only Eats The Things That Matter! Follow Tenzil Kem on his voracious quest to consume all meaning in the Multiverse!" Wow! This stuff just writes itself!
He probably either did have or would have had a reboot if not for that god awful name. We might accept it *now* but we wouldn't have stood for that in the 90s. We wouldn't accept him unless his name was changed to Consumption or Glutton or some other edgy sounding thing.
hey mat! i wanted to say that as a plural system i really appreciated the way you addressed DID in this- it’s such a common horror trope and it’s nice to see a horror based space that clearly doesn’t intend to demonize people who are different even when those differences aren’t commonly understood!! thank you so much, this made my day!
Jasper Huber seconded!! also it’s valuable to note that not all plural systems are diagnosed with DID - many also have an Otherwise Specified Dissociative Disorder, or are created endogenically (without the influence of trauma)
Yeah. Reading the comic. Its clear that the writer actualy did his work and actually looked into what its like to be part of a system. Instead of what every other person does and just use it as a generic spooky thing or use just the stuff that is usualy in pop culture They bring up stuff that I myself have experienced. That I don't think I've *ever* seen in a piece od media They bring up the idea of a headspace. And then go one step further by explaining that while some systems have one. Its by no means a universal experience
having read the Whole Series. It's become one of our System's favorite Stories of all time, the Cosmically Horrific love letter to these Hulks is just *chef kiss* a lot of what we want in Plural Media especially media about our favorite Comic Book system! (Fun Fact, the Hulks have had a DID Diagnosis since at least the Peter David run. Ewing just took it like he did everything else in Hulk Lore and spun Gamma Irradiated gold from it
Oddly enough im not either, ive always found myself following books staring other hulks like she hulk or hulks son skaar but not really bruce banner himself. Thats not tonsay that i dislike the character or anything ive just find those hulks more my style.
I've read every one of the 33 issues, so far, and in every single book there is at least one page that makes my jaw drop. It's one of the best comic books ever published, imho.
It’s the way that Hulk was always meant to be: a horror story. He was basically Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, but over the decades it kind of lost that horror element to it. But Immortal Hulk is genuinely terrifying while also being thought provoking. It’s also super metal. He rips a guy’s spine out and whips him with it in one volume if that gives you any indication.
Growing up, I was a large kid that did well in classes but had a severe anger issue and was prone to violent outbursts of anger. I oftentimes looked up to the Hulk and Banner as heroes, people with many of the same traits I had that are trying to make the world a better place even if they weren't always perfect or if they suffered in a way that those near them didn't know. As I got older, my anger lead to depression, but I always had the ideal of someone that isn't perfect or pure, and possibly even less than others, making the world a better place. Then I got a bit older and they found out I was born with a hole in my brain, which is really weird but also really easy to fix. The fictional character Hulk has saved my life, I am honor-bound to join him in his fight to destroy capitalism
@STM Thank you. it means a lot to me. So, I didn't know that treating them as separate people was a thing. It's just what made sense to me in how to handle it, and I was surprised you thanked me for it. I started looking into DID more because of that. In my early 20's I had an episode where I started having thoughts that weren't my own and would occasionally lose control of myself. Eventually started having full conversations where we all started working together to be a more functional being. Boy howdy does that sound like stage 2 of treatment. I'm not saying I had DID, but maybe I understand it better than I thought.
Not sure how you're going to destroy capitalism since there is only capitalism. Every alternative falls apart, So you can do your best to adjust capitalism, but it's impossible to smash as you always end up back there.
@@defenstrator4660 Capitalism is only a couple hundred years old and is in a death spiral. It took feudalism over 1,000 years to get to the point capitalism is at right now. If you look at the recent global problems, how capitalist a country is has been a good indication of how poorly it will handle it. I got a hole in my brain and even I can remember the 08 financial crash and the current pandemic that we're living through. Weird that the only way you're able to defend capitalism is to deny reality, almost like it's ripe for a smashing
@@andrewwestfall65 Capitalism is simply the modern expression of the free trade of goods. It has existed since one guy was willing to trade some elk for a bowl. You are mistaking an economic system for a social one. Under feudalism people's human capital was being expropriated by the nobility, but even then trade flourished. Note how the serfs would flee the land and escape to the cities where they were free to trade their labour for wages rather than being trapped in bondage.
I have DID and it's really awesome to see someone using our terminology correctly and respecting it. Even if the immortal hulk isn't a great representation of DID (Comics in general wouldn't be a good way to represent DID) it's still great to see someone I respect being responsible and careful to make sure we're not discriminated against in his video.
@STM i mean yeah she's more likely to bc of the whole anti-hierarchy anarchy thing, but like ancoms can still enforce and support hierarchy against their ideology i.e. all the ableism and pluralphobia i've experienced from "anarchists"
Just gotta say speaking as a member of a Plural system (OSDD-1b) it might not be exactly "sensitive", but Immortal Hulk owns bones. It sure handles it a lot better than most Marvel Comics depictions of Plurality, and the whole "internal landscape full of kooky characters" thing is more realistic than you might suspect. Sure focusing the whole story around a "bad" alter is maybe a *little* gauche, but like you said: Devil Hulk isn't so much evil as operating along a different set of morals.
Moreover I know we aren't the only Plural system who feels this way, because panels from this comic make their way through the Plural meme groups we're in pretty frequently.
I have never heard of these terms before, like Plural system or quagenic inclusive. Mind filling me in? I’m very interested to know more about this side of whatever it might be.
STM Thanks so much for the response and explanation. All this is very intriguing to me. I might dive in and do some personal research myself, seeing as I’m very into exploring the human psyche and the way people think.
I'm also part of a system. And yeah, its not the most perfect example of a system. But its worlds beyond most anything else I think ive *ever* seen in pop culture It really feels like they actualy did their research on what its actualy like to live like it and worked to actualy represent it Like some of the small details. Like with them having different ways of communicating. And their headspace. Hell even the fact they use terms like system and dormant. Which really arent terms that get *used* in pop culture depictions of systems And I don't think devil hulk is bad. He seems to genuinely be a good person. If.... Lacking in mercy, but its clear hes supposed to be a protector. He genuinely cares about Bruce and the other hulks. As well as a lot of the supporting cast.
Genuinely loved this, especially the first third, where it leans hard into the body horror, and has an episodic EC comics type horror. Also the commentary on being allowed to express emotion and how different that is for people of different groups.
I really enjoyed reading "Immortal Hulk" it's the most intricate re-invention of a mainstream character's mythology since Geoff Johns got his hands on Green Lantern around the first "Rebirth".. I'd love to see it adapted into a live action Streaming show
@@DeviIsAdvocate disagree. Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Spider-Man TAS, and X-men are some of the most beloved entries into the animated marvel series, and i would argue that they're often better than the mcu.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO USE MORBIUS, THE LIVING VAMPIRE FOR ANYTHING ELSE NOOOOO MILDRED YOU DOOMED US ALL TO MORBIN TIME WITH THOSE VERY WORDS
THIS. I am only reading Hulk, Daredevil, Gideon Falls, Strange Adventures and very rarely check Batman and X-Men. That's basically it. Hulk and Daredevil are S-class comic books, the ones I'm most interested in right now.
And unlike other reimaginings like Frankencastle, Immortal Hulk has been hugely popular, it even outsold Batman a few times. And Hulk says trans rights!
@@hiruyabebaw5215 One issue had Joe Fixit saying he supported trans rights, and in the latest storyline one of Hulk's allies officially came out as trans, which had been hinted at for awhile. It's also implied, but not outright stated, that Betty broke into an ICE facility and freed the captives there. Just like Matt, I'm frequently shocked that Disney of all people allowed this to be published.
Anthony Rand I don’t think Disney even cares about the comics. If the comics are being more and more like the movies, it isn’t because Disney is demanding to be that way, but it’s just editors and executives running Marvel comics wanting to cash in on their success. But yeah, I’m surprised that Marvel themselves are allowing such an ambitious comic like Immortal Hulk still be published.
"Psychedelic cosmic quasi-mystic sci-fi" made me think of Event Horizon and now I am hoping there is enough of an opinion on the work to warrant a video. I love that weird and terrifying movie.
I don't know what's cooler. The fact that you just reviewed a comic book character, or you just recommended seeing if it's available at our libraries. Yeah, a LOT of libraries cover comics, which is pretty damn sweet. A good friend of mine is able to read a graphic novel a day thanks to this.
thank you for mentioning franken-castle. such an underappreciated run. EDIT: oh and yeah, needless to say, immortal hulk is literally the best comic currently being published by the big two (with MAYBE the entire dawn of x line as a challenger)
@@emersonpage5384 I'm just talking mainline cape comics, otherwise I'd also have to mention the last god which is on DC black label. though to be fair, the only current vertigo stuff I read is the new hellblazer, so I wouldn't know either way how good sandman universe is.
@@emersonpage5384 oh yeah I completely forgot that. but isn't that just basically a publishing initiative under the vertigo imprint? I find it all a bit unnecessarily confusing tbh.
@@YourEvilHenchman i haven't read immortal hulk( except the maximum carnage tie-in event issues but that doesn't entirely count) but ive heard good things. Has his son Skaar returned yet in the books?
Sometimes it's amazing to me that there's other people who get as obsessed as I do with the intersection fo psychedelic cosmic mystic scifi + horror + superhero.
I know you mentioned it being weird for an A list character to have a massive tone shift in comics, but the Hulk in particular has had this pretty frequently. The Peter David run is almost unrecognizable from the tortured monster of the 70s with the introduction of Joe Fix-it, Doc Sampson and David's generally comedic tone, and Greg Ruk's Planet Hulk and it's various tie-ins make the Hulk into much more of a sword's and sorcery type character. If anything Immortal Hulk is much closer to the character's roots than the majority of his modern incarnations.
Hulk and X-Men are the two biggest comic properties that are allowed to make big, sweeping changes to their status quo and have them actually stick. And shocker, recent runs of Hulk and X-Men have been among the best things Marvel has made in a long time.
The Peter David run also introduced Hulk as A Plural System to the canon by establishing Joe Fixit as The Grey Hulk from all the way back in the first short lived Hulk Series to playing with concepts like Fusion with the introduction of Merged Hulk (though that got a little wonky and instead of Fusing Bruce and Savage Hulk Doc Samson accidentally creating a whole new Headmate that just acted like a Fusion)
when i saw on twitter that you were reading immortal hulk, i could not wait for the inevitable video about it. it's such a good series that actually got me into hulk as a character and made me go back and read/re-read older hulk comics through the lens of immortal hulk.
thank you so much for mentioning that the hulk has did!! you're right that it's not the most sensitive portrayal, but it's so cool that one of the most iconic and beloved comic book heroes of all time canonically and explicitly has did and i hate that it's not common knowledge
"Banner is from the world of rules, Hulk is from the world of metaphors." I mean, the fantastical world of super heroes has been the world of metaphor since like the 80s, and probably earlier
my library is the kind of library that has like... every volume of The Goon and Grendel but one volume of Berserk (it's not even the first volume) and nothing remotely new or daring.
If you're in a city they probably have access to the books from a lot of other libraries. Ask and they can probably get most things in for you. My library even has an app where you can reserve books and you'll get an email when they are ready for collection.
The fact that a comic published by one of the biggest corporate entities in existence gets away with turning its main character into an anti-corporate terrorist and _vindicates him for it_ is either a small miracle or a disturbing display of confidence.
at first i was quite certain i was happy with giving you a like for that gene joke but now that you've also thrown in hulk hands i am super disappointed that i blew my like early and wasn't ready for this ooey-gooey goodness.
I just read all of immortal hulk in a single week And I love the story, the horror. The fights and everything But the things I enjoy the most Is how it builds character and humanizes the main and supporting cast Seeing the moment when devil hulk tells jackie that he likes her. How she thinks about rage as something that can be useful. Not something to be bottled up and locked away Or seeing Bruce and the big guy having a heart to heart about their past Its all really good stuff
Maybe don't go to the library yet tho, just do online like Matt said lol. I work at a library, and we are still closed. When we open, we're just gonna do curbside pickup I think for a while.
cant say i like this depiction of plurality. would really prefer if people didn't try to use it for their... good and evil, morality demon metaphors. i wish this wasn't seen as a good depiction cuz it shows how low the bar is
@Alara Platt I believe every attempt to address plurality has merit, and the importance should not be on avoiding certain attempts, but passing every attempt under the most holistic and objective lens possible. People with any degree of "plurality" have had to survive carving their own way through life more and more as the places society once had for them have been suppressed. Today, in the US, we are in a society where one of the ruling political majorities insists that a person with "less than pure blood" is incapable of being a "Two Spirit", which is in direct contrast to the actual teachings of the Cultures with long held places for Two Spirits, who believe that any person can be born as such. To be fair, the other ruling political majority insists there is no such thing at all, so I guess that's technically crueler. So, being surrounded by white skinned people who tell me my heritage is invalid because of my own white skin, I've gained more from the lessons I've learned studying a green skinned comic book character than I have from any US political party continuing to insist it has all the answers and solutions for the entire world's ills, real and imagined.
@@Pensive_Scarlet wait so you are white? and Two Spirit? is that what im getting here cuz that sounds like a problem of its own. apologies in advance if i misinterpreted
@@alaraplatt8104 I have actual, documented Aboriginal American heritage; I have physically white skin. I am not that concerned with embracing labels, but the concept of "Two Spirit" is something that has resonated with me in a way nothing else has. I want to clarify that I'm referring to the spiritual concept, not the social role. I do not claim the term as a label or even what I "identify" as, I merely refer to it as the only thing I've seen in this world that even begins to describe my experience as a person. I use it in a literal sense more than anything. Honestly, I'm content with just saying I'm a half-man half-woman freak these days. I have no people, I have no place. I simply attempt to peacefully coexist in a world filled with people who seem to hate my unusual nature by default. I wouldn't blame you for seeing me as a walking problem in need of "solving". The overall political system in the US would sooner have me die out of it than accept me as a person.
I have been loving Immortal Hulk! You hit all the nails, square on the head. The Hulk / Pickle Jars scene - particularly how it ended - was just fantastic. And totally bonkers.
If you're in the market for a comic book youtuber minus the misogyny, I'd recommend checking out Comic Drake. He's a bit more TH-cam-y (not in the """classical""" """liberal""" way at all, you'll see what I mean), but he's worth a look if that's something you're interested in.
Check out comic tropes! Chris is a sweet heart who recommends comics from all over the world from creators of all types. He's one of the few people I've seen talk about stuff like Blacksad, Dragon Tiger Gate, and modern American superhero fare. He has a lot of respect for and always makes sure to address the background of all creators he talks about and he always has a lot of sensitivity about content warnings and makes clear when something might be distressing. He also has lots of dad jokes and does really cool art streams! He's a great draftsman and a really amazing inker.
@@chriscueva1866 The majority of comic book channels, especially the a lot of the large ones, tend to have the issues implied here. But I will also say that I don't think I've seen Arris from Variant Comics or Scott from Nerdsync engage in that either.
Whoa, thanks for the recommend enby pal, especially the library advice for broke boys. My kinda art is always big ideas, striking art, and correct ethical analysis of human systemsssssss.
I love when you make videos on comics, it tends to be a lot better than the average youtube comic analysis, i'd watch them no matter how strenuously related it is to your channel/s
Can we talk about how the Hulk has a himbo psychiatrist who just casually comes back from the dead and who is one of the most wholesome and nice characters I've seen in a long time? I want more nice people in my fiction please!
Your humor is the DRIEST and I f*cking love it. Great video. Felt the same with the comic cause it’s so out there but I read every issue and its wonderful!
I'm so so so sooooo happy that you started reading this comic. I've really been enjoying it. It's so bananas in the most mind twisting terrifying way. The tension is always top notch
I need to read this. I've been meaning to... I'm normally not a Marvel fan outside of Dr. Strange and Spider-Man, but the idea of a Hulk comic written like a 90's Vertigo comic sounds absolutely fascinating.
Stoked to see you recommend this. I'm someone that only kind of likes hulk with some of his big stories like planet hulk and world War hulk and this story blew me away love it
"A wizard made it look like it happened, but it didn't." You will either be pleased or even more disappointed to know that one writer insisted on ignoring what you're (most likely) referring to here. They retconned the retcon and used the incident as originally depicted to give Dr. Strange a great little redeeming character moment. (In case I'm assuming wrong, for clarity: talking about Dr. Strange's very interesting history with history's Ben Franklin, look it up, no joke.)
Hulk actually started as a horror comic of sorts so this is just him returning to what he was meant to be all along before superhero antics swept him in a completely different direction
I was really creeped out by those early “educational” sections where the went in on the definition of “Hulk” as this empty thing. It helped make the character feel unknowable for me
Immortal hulk is more of a more things change the more they stay the same. it ties into his horror routes, he only turns at night like he used to and so many call backs.
Honestly, the handling of the Hulk as a plural system is... Some of the best handling out of any popular media I've ever seen. Which, that's kind of depressing, but also another reason why Immortal Hulk is fucking *amazing.*
speaking of Man-Thing, remember when they broke him out of retirement so R.L Stine could assassinate him with a shitsucking awful run. Pour one out for my Man-Thing.
As a system. My honest to god favorite part of it was actualy in the most recent issue. Where Bruce and the big guy have a chat in headspace. And the hulk tells banner that in the past. He was obsessed with trying to get back to "normal". To somehow not be a system anymore. He looked for a cure or for some way to get rid of them. Or even kill himself just so he wouldn't be that way And they actualy talk over how that was like. A really bad a shitty thing to do. And that it isn't wrong to exist like this. And the others in the system deserve respect as well. Not something to me medicalized away or be cured
I read the first 12-ish issue arc of the immortal hulk when that was all that was out, and honestly I'm pleasantly surprised to find out that it's still going? that first arc felt so conclusive and self-contained that i just assumed it was over.
Watching this out of order, from your current videos, but I thought Bobby Duke was gonna pop up. Lol On a side note, I'd love to see more of this stuff!
This is not the first time they did something like this to the Hulk, let's not forget that not long ago we got Planet Hulk. Also they don't play it safe all the time--Marvel wanted to make DareDevil a villain and to have a 60's psychadelic take on the Fantastic Four.
There's so much good about this run There's the goofy-ass shout-out to the movies when Bruce just says to Captain Marvel "that's my secret, captain. I'M ALREADY DEAD." you show it off but Absorbing Man is genuinely horrifying and I love it
i got lucky, when it first started coming out the alex ross cover art made me wanna give it a try and i have loved this comic every step of the way. great video!
I think you should give The Punisher a way deeper dive than you have, because he's definitely not the 'fascists wet dream' even if they want him to be. Trust me, the cops who use Punisher logos have never read a single comic, they just like skulls. The secret to understanding The Punisher is that you must understand that the Punisher is the villain, very much like Judge Dredd. I suggest the Garth Ennis run, Punisher MAX, where we really delve into his psyche. He is quite literally a psychopath and in this series Ennis explores his motivations to an extreme degree, and it is decided in no uncertain terms that The Punisher just enjoys killing people, and is only using the death of his family as an excuse. The drama found in The Punisher is in the inner monologue. Yellow boxes represent The Punisher thinking, white boxes represent Frank Castle and there is a constant struggle between them.
I love the first scene in the series. The way Ewing sets up Devil Hulk taking the biker gang and the shooter guy is absolutely thrilling and terrifying
Good video! I gotta say Al Ewing keeps getting away with this shit at Marvel and no one is stopping him (like the hulk innit). His Loki series and Ultimates both tapped that same mystic cosmic shit and changed some very entrenched status quos (that immediately snapped back but what ya gonna do). Reminds me of Grant Morrison's stuff whenever DC lets him play with the New Gods, do an event book, or write a Superman story. If you haven't yet, you might want to check out some of the Young Animal stuff Gerard Way was doing: Doom Patrol, Shade, and Eternity Girl were all that same sort of space weird. Looking forward to the next video! P.S. For what you said about Matter-Eater Lad, We are enemies
Just a small clarification, Way didn't do any other Young Animal stuff besides Doom Patrol and a part of Milk Wars, he was the curator and editor, but Shade, Eternity Girl, Cave Carson, etc. weren't written by him, just "accepted".
"Can't imagine it's selling well". None of us could. The whole fandom got taken aback when Hulk suddenly started outselling Batman in the middle of the run. Usually, only things that outsell Batman are big events, launches of a big new book or Spider-Man. Hulk suddenly jumping over Batman in middle of his run may even got Batman writer fired.
Tom King is straight up trash
@@BigDad138 Tom King has written a great Vision run and the Sheriff of Baghdad is pretty great too.
@@ingmarfris8175 I mean it's interesting and challenging but I wouldn't call his work "good". It lacks cohesiveness and struggles to make you care.
@@ahmedamine24 Well I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree.
@@ingmarfris8175 I think the thing with Tom King is that he can only work within a short run or something contained, perhaps only with certain characters. Like he's surprisingly good at writing Superman in Up in The Sky. His Mr. Miracle book is also really good. But for some reason with Batman, it just doesn't feel right.
add one more victory to the "having fun isn't hard when you have a library card" tally!
Witty.
Banner HULK HULK HULK BannerBannerbannerHULK
i miss the library....
I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one that remembers this gem of a musical number from Arthur.
wear your mask 😷
"It's somewhere totally foreign, totally alien and unknowable, but somewhere familiar and when you go there you realize the horrible truth that you've always been there. You just didn't know it."
I forgot what channel I was watching for a moment at this point and thought we were bringing back the Eyeball Zone mid-video transitions.
Oh John, don't you know? You never left the Eyeball Zone.
Moving the eyeball zone to the end of the video is _literally_ the worst thing that has happened in 2020.
you never left
But what if it's just capitalism as revealed by Trump and Covid? What if that horror just showed you the reality that was there all along?
i have eyeball ptsd now
I can’t wait for the Immortal Hulk “Oh Dear God, It’s Melting? I can see it’s bone and guts and oh my god” Transforming Action Figure!
Legit tho Immortal Hulk is so fucking good. Easily in the top 10 comics for me.
every time you smash something with the Immortal Hulk Hands™ the inbuilt speakers ask questions of great philosophical complexity
The opening here made me really think about how weird it was that there is no edgy 90's reboot of Matter Eater Lad who ate _people_ or something, lol.
Or a dark matter eater lad who's goal is to reduce the mass of the universe to absolutely make sure it ends in the slow lonely heat death...
@@samtheweebo lol. God damn, now _that_ is dark and edgy!
"Matter-eater Kid: He Only Eats The Things That Matter! Follow Tenzil Kem on his voracious quest to consume all meaning in the Multiverse!" Wow! This stuff just writes itself!
He probably either did have or would have had a reboot if not for that god awful name. We might accept it *now* but we wouldn't have stood for that in the 90s. We wouldn't accept him unless his name was changed to Consumption or Glutton or some other edgy sounding thing.
I think that’s called Chew
hey mat! i wanted to say that as a plural system i really appreciated the way you addressed DID in this- it’s such a common horror trope and it’s nice to see a horror based space that clearly doesn’t intend to demonize people who are different even when those differences aren’t commonly understood!! thank you so much, this made my day!
Jasper Huber seconded!! also it’s valuable to note that not all plural systems are diagnosed with DID - many also have an Otherwise Specified Dissociative Disorder, or are created endogenically (without the influence of trauma)
Yeah. Reading the comic. Its clear that the writer actualy did his work and actually looked into what its like to be part of a system. Instead of what every other person does and just use it as a generic spooky thing or use just the stuff that is usualy in pop culture
They bring up stuff that I myself have experienced. That I don't think I've *ever* seen in a piece od media
They bring up the idea of a headspace. And then go one step further by explaining that while some systems have one. Its by no means a universal experience
Have you read the whole run of the series by now? They definitely went places.
having read the Whole Series. It's become one of our System's favorite Stories of all time, the Cosmically Horrific love letter to these Hulks is just *chef kiss* a lot of what we want in Plural Media especially media about our favorite Comic Book system! (Fun Fact, the Hulks have had a DID Diagnosis since at least the Peter David run. Ewing just took it like he did everything else in Hulk Lore and spun Gamma Irradiated gold from it
I was never much of a Hulk fan, but this sounds intetesting
Oddly enough im not either, ive always found myself following books staring other hulks like she hulk or hulks son skaar but not really bruce banner himself. Thats not tonsay that i dislike the character or anything ive just find those hulks more my style.
Immortal Hulk made me a hulk fan.
It's great. Please give it one issue, I think you'll get hooked.
I've read every one of the 33 issues, so far, and in every single book there is at least one page that makes my jaw drop. It's one of the best comic books ever published, imho.
It’s the way that Hulk was always meant to be: a horror story. He was basically Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, but over the decades it kind of lost that horror element to it. But Immortal Hulk is genuinely terrifying while also being thought provoking. It’s also super metal. He rips a guy’s spine out and whips him with it in one volume if that gives you any indication.
as a librarian, I appreciate the library shout-out!
"YOU are NOT a librarian! You are a library assistant, a librarian has a PhD. You will never be a librarian!"
Do you shoot lightning and smite people? Didnt think so.
Growing up, I was a large kid that did well in classes but had a severe anger issue and was prone to violent outbursts of anger. I oftentimes looked up to the Hulk and Banner as heroes, people with many of the same traits I had that are trying to make the world a better place even if they weren't always perfect or if they suffered in a way that those near them didn't know. As I got older, my anger lead to depression, but I always had the ideal of someone that isn't perfect or pure, and possibly even less than others, making the world a better place. Then I got a bit older and they found out I was born with a hole in my brain, which is really weird but also really easy to fix.
The fictional character Hulk has saved my life, I am honor-bound to join him in his fight to destroy capitalism
@STM Thank you. it means a lot to me.
So, I didn't know that treating them as separate people was a thing. It's just what made sense to me in how to handle it, and I was surprised you thanked me for it. I started looking into DID more because of that. In my early 20's I had an episode where I started having thoughts that weren't my own and would occasionally lose control of myself. Eventually started having full conversations where we all started working together to be a more functional being. Boy howdy does that sound like stage 2 of treatment. I'm not saying I had DID, but maybe I understand it better than I thought.
Smash the system, friend. Smash it good.
Not sure how you're going to destroy capitalism since there is only capitalism. Every alternative falls apart, So you can do your best to adjust capitalism, but it's impossible to smash as you always end up back there.
@@defenstrator4660 Capitalism is only a couple hundred years old and is in a death spiral. It took feudalism over 1,000 years to get to the point capitalism is at right now. If you look at the recent global problems, how capitalist a country is has been a good indication of how poorly it will handle it. I got a hole in my brain and even I can remember the 08 financial crash and the current pandemic that we're living through. Weird that the only way you're able to defend capitalism is to deny reality, almost like it's ripe for a smashing
@@andrewwestfall65 Capitalism is simply the modern expression of the free trade of goods. It has existed since one guy was willing to trade some elk for a bowl. You are mistaking an economic system for a social one. Under feudalism people's human capital was being expropriated by the nobility, but even then trade flourished. Note how the serfs would flee the land and escape to the cities where they were free to trade their labour for wages rather than being trapped in bondage.
I have DID and it's really awesome to see someone using our terminology correctly and respecting it. Even if the immortal hulk isn't a great representation of DID (Comics in general wouldn't be a good way to represent DID) it's still great to see someone I respect being responsible and careful to make sure we're not discriminated against in his video.
@STM also same how are there so many systems watching mildred
@STM i mean yeah she's more likely to bc of the whole anti-hierarchy anarchy thing, but like ancoms can still enforce and support hierarchy against their ideology
i.e. all the ableism and pluralphobia i've experienced from "anarchists"
@STM any/all so i tend to swap between different pronouns
Me too
Stop being offended at everything
Just gotta say speaking as a member of a Plural system (OSDD-1b) it might not be exactly "sensitive", but Immortal Hulk owns bones. It sure handles it a lot better than most Marvel Comics depictions of Plurality, and the whole "internal landscape full of kooky characters" thing is more realistic than you might suspect. Sure focusing the whole story around a "bad" alter is maybe a *little* gauche, but like you said: Devil Hulk isn't so much evil as operating along a different set of morals.
Moreover I know we aren't the only Plural system who feels this way, because panels from this comic make their way through the Plural meme groups we're in pretty frequently.
I have never heard of these terms before, like Plural system or quagenic inclusive. Mind filling me in? I’m very interested to know more about this side of whatever it might be.
STM Thanks so much for the response and explanation. All this is very intriguing to me. I might dive in and do some personal research myself, seeing as I’m very into exploring the human psyche and the way people think.
STM Thanks a lot for the recommendations, I really appreciate it. Safe travels be with you.
I'm also part of a system. And yeah, its not the most perfect example of a system. But its worlds beyond most anything else I think ive *ever* seen in pop culture
It really feels like they actualy did their research on what its actualy like to live like it and worked to actualy represent it
Like some of the small details. Like with them having different ways of communicating. And their headspace.
Hell even the fact they use terms like system and dormant. Which really arent terms that get *used* in pop culture depictions of systems
And I don't think devil hulk is bad. He seems to genuinely be a good person. If.... Lacking in mercy, but its clear hes supposed to be a protector. He genuinely cares about Bruce and the other hulks. As well as a lot of the supporting cast.
Genuinely loved this, especially the first third, where it leans hard into the body horror, and has an episodic EC comics type horror.
Also the commentary on being allowed to express emotion and how different that is for people of different groups.
I really enjoyed reading "Immortal Hulk" it's the most intricate re-invention of a mainstream character's mythology since Geoff Johns got his hands on Green Lantern around the first "Rebirth".. I'd love to see it adapted into a live action Streaming show
Live action is overated.
Animation are better.
@@MrSafior no its not
@@tyronechillifoot5573 Yes its is.
@@tyronechillifoot5573 Animation will always be better then a live action version - unless it's marvel
@@DeviIsAdvocate disagree. Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Spider-Man TAS, and X-men are some of the most beloved entries into the animated marvel series, and i would argue that they're often better than the mcu.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO USE MORBIUS, THE LIVING VAMPIRE FOR ANYTHING ELSE
NOOOOO MILDRED YOU DOOMED US ALL TO MORBIN TIME WITH THOSE VERY WORDS
I am simply grateful that I lived long enough to get two outstanding Hulk story arcs (Shout out to Planet Hulk) in my lifetime.
This and Daredevil are legit the best books on the shelves right now.
THIS. I am only reading Hulk, Daredevil, Gideon Falls, Strange Adventures and very rarely check Batman and X-Men. That's basically it. Hulk and Daredevil are S-class comic books, the ones I'm most interested in right now.
But why daredevil? Is he played by matt damon in the comic books? I dont like his big chadly-chin.
Goddamnit, I'd just about clicked to close the tab when you dropped the "hulk smash the like button." Had to re-open and do it. +1 would smash again.
And unlike other reimaginings like Frankencastle, Immortal Hulk has been hugely popular, it even outsold Batman a few times. And Hulk says trans rights!
Wait what
@@hiruyabebaw5215 One issue had Joe Fixit saying he supported trans rights, and in the latest storyline one of Hulk's allies officially came out as trans, which had been hinted at for awhile.
It's also implied, but not outright stated, that Betty broke into an ICE facility and freed the captives there. Just like Matt, I'm frequently shocked that Disney of all people allowed this to be published.
@@hiruyabebaw5215 slightly cropped, top left, at 4:44
Man, Franken-Castle was good though.
Anthony Rand I don’t think Disney even cares about the comics. If the comics are being more and more like the movies, it isn’t because Disney is demanding to be that way, but it’s just editors and executives running Marvel comics wanting to cash in on their success. But yeah, I’m surprised that Marvel themselves are allowing such an ambitious comic like Immortal Hulk still be published.
"Psychedelic cosmic quasi-mystic sci-fi" made me think of Event Horizon and now I am hoping there is enough of an opinion on the work to warrant a video. I love that weird and terrifying movie.
OMG please do event horizon in your next video Matt!
I am still stunned the Pual W.S. Anderson made the movie.
I love Event Horizon, legit one of my favorite cosmic horror movies that isn't a Lovecraft adaptation, aside from maybe The Void
Please, please, please, please, please!
Event Horizon doesn't get talked about enough. It's like Hellraiser, but in space, but also good.
Dang, I love Hulk and I love psychedelic metaphysical nonsense, so I should probably be reading this.
it's great.
You should also like body horror too because whoah nellie is there a lot of it in there. It’s insanely metal.
@@nathancrudup9603 Good news
@@nathancrudup9603 They out Cronnenberg Cronnenberg.
Making Hulk a horror comic was the best move they had made in decades
1:27
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It's morbin time
2:30
"How many times can you watch the same grim, stoned faced guy just mow down mobsters again and again? "
(Glances at Judge Dredd)
I don't know what's cooler. The fact that you just reviewed a comic book character, or you just recommended seeing if it's available at our libraries.
Yeah, a LOT of libraries cover comics, which is pretty damn sweet. A good friend of mine is able to read a graphic novel a day thanks to this.
thank you for mentioning franken-castle. such an underappreciated run.
EDIT: oh and yeah, needless to say, immortal hulk is literally the best comic currently being published by the big two (with MAYBE the entire dawn of x line as a challenger)
no love for Sandman Universe or are we just talking mainline Marvel/DC Universes
@@emersonpage5384 I'm just talking mainline cape comics, otherwise I'd also have to mention the last god which is on DC black label. though to be fair, the only current vertigo stuff I read is the new hellblazer, so I wouldn't know either way how good sandman universe is.
@@YourEvilHenchman the newest hellblazer is under the sandman universe imprint iirc
@@emersonpage5384 oh yeah I completely forgot that. but isn't that just basically a publishing initiative under the vertigo imprint? I find it all a bit unnecessarily confusing tbh.
@@YourEvilHenchman i haven't read immortal hulk( except the maximum carnage tie-in event issues but that doesn't entirely count) but ive heard good things. Has his son Skaar returned yet in the books?
Probably already been mentioned, but anyone else seeing "Saturn devouring his son" at 8:30?
Oh yeah! Good catch!
But LOOK AT THE BULLMAN
No wonder it reminded of something
Ooooh I knew that pose looked familiar
Awesome! Thank you!!
Sometimes it's amazing to me that there's other people who get as obsessed as I do with the intersection fo psychedelic cosmic mystic scifi + horror + superhero.
I know you mentioned it being weird for an A list character to have a massive tone shift in comics, but the Hulk in particular has had this pretty frequently. The Peter David run is almost unrecognizable from the tortured monster of the 70s with the introduction of Joe Fix-it, Doc Sampson and David's generally comedic tone, and Greg Ruk's Planet Hulk and it's various tie-ins make the Hulk into much more of a sword's and sorcery type character. If anything Immortal Hulk is much closer to the character's roots than the majority of his modern incarnations.
(this is a good think I really like all these runs and am glad that their allowed more experimentation)
Hulk is that weird case where despite being super popular, it hasn’t stopped writers from getting weird with him and experimenting with random ideas.
Hulk and X-Men are the two biggest comic properties that are allowed to make big, sweeping changes to their status quo and have them actually stick. And shocker, recent runs of Hulk and X-Men have been among the best things Marvel has made in a long time.
The Peter David run also introduced Hulk as A Plural System to the canon by establishing Joe Fixit as The Grey Hulk from all the way back in the first short lived Hulk Series to playing with concepts like Fusion with the introduction of Merged Hulk (though that got a little wonky and instead of Fusing Bruce and Savage Hulk Doc Samson accidentally creating a whole new Headmate that just acted like a Fusion)
when i saw on twitter that you were reading immortal hulk, i could not wait for the inevitable video about it. it's such a good series that actually got me into hulk as a character and made me go back and read/re-read older hulk comics through the lens of immortal hulk.
thank you so much for mentioning that the hulk has did!! you're right that it's not the most sensitive portrayal, but it's so cool that one of the most iconic and beloved comic book heroes of all time canonically and explicitly has did and i hate that it's not common knowledge
"Banner is from the world of rules, Hulk is from the world of metaphors."
I mean, the fantastical world of super heroes has been the world of metaphor since like the 80s, and probably earlier
my library is the kind of library that has like... every volume of The Goon and Grendel but one volume of Berserk (it's not even the first volume) and nothing remotely new or daring.
If you're in a city they probably have access to the books from a lot of other libraries. Ask and they can probably get most things in for you. My library even has an app where you can reserve books and you'll get an email when they are ready for collection.
A lot of libraries in north america also have partnerships with libby or borrowbox which gives you access to a giant online list
@@samanthaburns6956That's great, we do that in Scotland too!
The fact that a comic published by one of the biggest corporate entities in existence gets away with turning its main character into an anti-corporate terrorist and _vindicates him for it_ is either a small miracle or a disturbing display of confidence.
well this portrayal clearly made them more money in the end than something more middle-of-the-road would've done, which is all they care about
YES FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SEES THE BRILLIANCE OF THIS COMIC AND ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS THE METAPHORICAL UNDERPINNINGS
at first i was quite certain i was happy with giving you a like for that gene joke but now that you've also thrown in hulk hands i am super disappointed that i blew my like early and wasn't ready for this ooey-gooey goodness.
Frank Castle is not fascist. Fascists are just so immune to irony, they think he is on their side.
Quick reminder that as of right now, Matter-Eater Lad is officially canon in the DCEU
I just read all of immortal hulk in a single week
And I love the story, the horror. The fights and everything
But the things I enjoy the most
Is how it builds character and humanizes the main and supporting cast
Seeing the moment when devil hulk tells jackie that he likes her. How she thinks about rage as something that can be useful. Not something to be bottled up and locked away
Or seeing Bruce and the big guy having a heart to heart about their past
Its all really good stuff
they said it. they said morbius.
Scaredy cat logo is baby
Yeah, it's a good strong logo
Maybe don't go to the library yet tho, just do online like Matt said lol. I work at a library, and we are still closed. When we open, we're just gonna do curbside pickup I think for a while.
@bryan diaz varela how can there be trash in the trash cans if nobody is there to put it in 🤔
I need to say i really really love your voice, it's so uniquely expressive
What you have to understand if no one reads comic books anymore so they can basically do what they want
Picked up the omnibus based on this video. It’s good and I like it.
In the time since you made this video, the series has only continued to escalate in both quality and batshit madness.
As a system dating another system, we both got a lot out of Immortal Hulk.
cant say i like this depiction of plurality. would really prefer if people didn't try to use it for their... good and evil, morality demon metaphors. i wish this wasn't seen as a good depiction cuz it shows how low the bar is
@Alara Platt
I believe every attempt to address plurality has merit, and the importance should not be on avoiding certain attempts, but passing every attempt under the most holistic and objective lens possible. People with any degree of "plurality" have had to survive carving their own way through life more and more as the places society once had for them have been suppressed. Today, in the US, we are in a society where one of the ruling political majorities insists that a person with "less than pure blood" is incapable of being a "Two Spirit", which is in direct contrast to the actual teachings of the Cultures with long held places for Two Spirits, who believe that any person can be born as such. To be fair, the other ruling political majority insists there is no such thing at all, so I guess that's technically crueler.
So, being surrounded by white skinned people who tell me my heritage is invalid because of my own white skin, I've gained more from the lessons I've learned studying a green skinned comic book character than I have from any US political party continuing to insist it has all the answers and solutions for the entire world's ills, real and imagined.
@@Pensive_Scarlet wait so you are white? and Two Spirit? is that what im getting here cuz that sounds like a problem of its own. apologies in advance if i misinterpreted
@@alaraplatt8104 I have actual, documented Aboriginal American heritage; I have physically white skin. I am not that concerned with embracing labels, but the concept of "Two Spirit" is something that has resonated with me in a way nothing else has. I want to clarify that I'm referring to the spiritual concept, not the social role. I do not claim the term as a label or even what I "identify" as, I merely refer to it as the only thing I've seen in this world that even begins to describe my experience as a person. I use it in a literal sense more than anything.
Honestly, I'm content with just saying I'm a half-man half-woman freak these days. I have no people, I have no place. I simply attempt to peacefully coexist in a world filled with people who seem to hate my unusual nature by default. I wouldn't blame you for seeing me as a walking problem in need of "solving". The overall political system in the US would sooner have me die out of it than accept me as a person.
I have been loving Immortal Hulk! You hit all the nails, square on the head. The Hulk / Pickle Jars scene - particularly how it ended - was just fantastic. And totally bonkers.
Morbius lmao
"I wanna know where it goes!" I'm gonna go on a limb, wild guess, and say Hulk will smash someone.
Matter-Eater Lad has the literal power to EAT SUPERMAN. How has this story not been made yet. I would pay so much money to see Superdick get cronched.
I'm confused. Did someone just recommend a comic book without exhibiting an ounce of misogyny in the process? Is this even TH-cam anymore?
If you're in the market for a comic book youtuber minus the misogyny, I'd recommend checking out Comic Drake. He's a bit more TH-cam-y (not in the """classical""" """liberal""" way at all, you'll see what I mean), but he's worth a look if that's something you're interested in.
It's the Hulk of comic people, the dark shadow that rebels against their fucking cuntishness.
Check out comic tropes! Chris is a sweet heart who recommends comics from all over the world from creators of all types. He's one of the few people I've seen talk about stuff like Blacksad, Dragon Tiger Gate, and modern American superhero fare.
He has a lot of respect for and always makes sure to address the background of all creators he talks about and he always has a lot of sensitivity about content warnings and makes clear when something might be distressing.
He also has lots of dad jokes and does really cool art streams! He's a great draftsman and a really amazing inker.
I'm confused by this comment. What comic channel's are you watching?
@@chriscueva1866 The majority of comic book channels, especially the a lot of the large ones, tend to have the issues implied here. But I will also say that I don't think I've seen Arris from Variant Comics or Scott from Nerdsync engage in that either.
Ty for the accurate language around DID, I almost cried ❤️ just so happy to see some good representation in unexpected places
I have no idea how they were allowed to make the Immortal Hulk, but it's really good and it confirms that Hulk is a *COMRADE.*
I mean if any super hero is going to look at capitalism and think "This is stupid, I should destroy it", it would be The Hulk.
Whoa, thanks for the recommend enby pal, especially the library advice for broke boys. My kinda art is always big ideas, striking art, and correct ethical analysis of human systemsssssss.
I've read every issue, and I am ashamed that missed Xemnu as a metaphor for the media. Also, it made Sasquatch terrifying.
I love when you make videos on comics, it tends to be a lot better than the average youtube comic analysis, i'd watch them no matter how strenuously related it is to your channel/s
Can we talk about how the Hulk has a himbo psychiatrist who just casually comes back from the dead and who is one of the most wholesome and nice characters I've seen in a long time? I want more nice people in my fiction please!
I was wondering why you would be nerd raging against the immortal hulk, im glad i misinterpreted the title as i did.
Your humor is the DRIEST and I f*cking love it. Great video. Felt the same with the comic cause it’s so out there but I read every issue and its wonderful!
I'm so so so sooooo happy that you started reading this comic. I've really been enjoying it. It's so bananas in the most mind twisting terrifying way. The tension is always top notch
literally went out and read the whole series in one sitting, what a recommendation
I need to read this. I've been meaning to... I'm normally not a Marvel fan outside of Dr. Strange and Spider-Man, but the idea of a Hulk comic written like a 90's Vertigo comic sounds absolutely fascinating.
Stoked to see you recommend this. I'm someone that only kind of likes hulk with some of his big stories like planet hulk and world War hulk and this story blew me away love it
Not enough TH-cam channels talk about Immortal Hulk so as soon as I saw this in my recommended I subscribed.
I was never much of a Hulk fan, but this comics series got me intrigued.
Seeing Matt so happy and excited in turn makes me happy ♥
Most of the concepts relating to dissociative identity disorder have actually been a part of Hulk comics since the 80s
This video made me realize I really need a pair of hulk hands
Finally the comrade Hulk we allways needed.
He always had D.I.D
I can't believe I'm just coming across this video now..Your video .Any video..of yours ..that you've made..Well.,it will not be my last ,Thank you
Just coming back to say thanks for introducing me to this series!
"A wizard made it look like it happened, but it didn't." You will either be pleased or even more disappointed to know that one writer insisted on ignoring what you're (most likely) referring to here. They retconned the retcon and used the incident as originally depicted to give Dr. Strange a great little redeeming character moment. (In case I'm assuming wrong, for clarity: talking about Dr. Strange's very interesting history with history's Ben Franklin, look it up, no joke.)
I'm loving the Immortal Hulk! Thanks for sharing it with the world!
Hulk actually started as a horror comic of sorts so this is just him returning to what he was meant to be all along before superhero antics swept him in a completely different direction
I actually ended up laughing at the end and liking/subscribing before you asked. Well done. I may actually go to the library
I was really creeped out by those early “educational” sections where the went in on the definition of “Hulk” as this empty thing. It helped make the character feel unknowable for me
It's simple they snuck it in when no one was watching
Immortal hulk is more of a more things change the more they stay the same.
it ties into his horror routes, he only turns at night like he used to and so many call backs.
Honestly, the handling of the Hulk as a plural system is... Some of the best handling out of any popular media I've ever seen.
Which, that's kind of depressing, but also another reason why Immortal Hulk is fucking *amazing.*
speaking of Man-Thing, remember when they broke him out of retirement so R.L Stine could assassinate him with a shitsucking awful run. Pour one out for my Man-Thing.
As a system. My honest to god favorite part of it was actualy in the most recent issue. Where Bruce and the big guy have a chat in headspace. And the hulk tells banner that in the past. He was obsessed with trying to get back to "normal". To somehow not be a system anymore. He looked for a cure or for some way to get rid of them. Or even kill himself just so he wouldn't be that way
And they actualy talk over how that was like. A really bad a shitty thing to do. And that it isn't wrong to exist like this. And the others in the system deserve respect as well. Not something to me medicalized away or be cured
immortal hulk is one of the best runs ive read
I read the first 12-ish issue arc of the immortal hulk when that was all that was out, and honestly I'm pleasantly surprised to find out that it's still going? that first arc felt so conclusive and self-contained that i just assumed it was over.
Oh yeah, nobody would ever make a morbius film 😅
Watching this out of order, from your current videos, but I thought Bobby Duke was gonna pop up. Lol
On a side note, I'd love to see more of this stuff!
This is not the first time they did something like this to the Hulk, let's not forget that not long ago we got Planet Hulk. Also they don't play it safe all the time--Marvel wanted to make DareDevil a villain and to have a 60's psychadelic take on the Fantastic Four.
There's so much good about this run
There's the goofy-ass shout-out to the movies when Bruce just says to Captain Marvel "that's my secret, captain. I'M ALREADY DEAD."
you show it off but Absorbing Man is genuinely horrifying and I love it
i got lucky, when it first started coming out the alex ross cover art made me wanna give it a try and i have loved this comic every step of the way. great video!
finding out about immortal hulk got me reading comics again it's fantastic
Holy shit I never expected to see Immortal Hulk in a 'mainstream' YT video.
I just finished Immortal Hulk. It was great. Thanks for the tip. Glad they got to wrap it up before this Joe Bennett stuff blew up.
Punisher is an amazing character. You gotta read punisher Max
I think you should give The Punisher a way deeper dive than you have, because he's definitely not the 'fascists wet dream' even if they want him to be. Trust me, the cops who use Punisher logos have never read a single comic, they just like skulls. The secret to understanding The Punisher is that you must understand that the Punisher is the villain, very much like Judge Dredd. I suggest the Garth Ennis run, Punisher MAX, where we really delve into his psyche. He is quite literally a psychopath and in this series Ennis explores his motivations to an extreme degree, and it is decided in no uncertain terms that The Punisher just enjoys killing people, and is only using the death of his family as an excuse. The drama found in The Punisher is in the inner monologue. Yellow boxes represent The Punisher thinking, white boxes represent Frank Castle and there is a constant struggle between them.
I love the first scene in the series. The way Ewing sets up Devil Hulk taking the biker gang and the shooter guy is absolutely thrilling and terrifying
Good video!
I gotta say Al Ewing keeps getting away with this shit at Marvel and no one is stopping him (like the hulk innit). His Loki series and Ultimates both tapped that same mystic cosmic shit and changed some very entrenched status quos (that immediately snapped back but what ya gonna do). Reminds me of Grant Morrison's stuff whenever DC lets him play with the New Gods, do an event book, or write a Superman story. If you haven't yet, you might want to check out some of the Young Animal stuff Gerard Way was doing: Doom Patrol, Shade, and Eternity Girl were all that same sort of space weird.
Looking forward to the next video!
P.S. For what you said about Matter-Eater Lad, We are enemies
his ultimates run was so good
Just a small clarification, Way didn't do any other Young Animal stuff besides Doom Patrol and a part of Milk Wars, he was the curator and editor, but Shade, Eternity Girl, Cave Carson, etc. weren't written by him, just "accepted".
I'd say right now, Al Ewing and Jonathan Hickman are Marvel's two greatest aspects in their comics departments.
Nice Re-Animator shirt man. Love that movie. I was glad it got some love when it got a kill count done on it.
"Death is Rebirth" who knew the Hulk could turn into an Evangelion reference?