Cursed Head | Vinland Saga S2 Ep 10 Reaction
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Canute is a savage
Canute the opp
Canute is BASED!
And it all started with the murder of rayner
A piece of shit too, truly the successor of his father.
@@ssj2tarble ragnar* and I think it was always in him cause in season 1 they said how crazy violent and murderous the royal family was. I think Ragnar saw that why he coddled Canute.
I love the fact how both Thorfinn and Canute are following in their father's footsteps
I'm disturbed by how many people are like "OMG CANUTE IS BASED" 😅
@@RabidDogma That is the price of Kingship.
You cant be a good ruler and a good person.
@@avalle4493 you are so wrong..
@@aglioeolio8494 Every great ruler in history has his hands cover by blood.
That is a fact.
Power has a price.
When you think about it they're starting to have the same goals but are using very different means.
It's crazy to me that a character can say he wants to genocide almost the entire human population, and fans are okay with this direction and want to see what happens, but when a character says he disavows violence these people drop it because it's too radical for them.
Wait when did Canute mention genocide?
@@vincenzoacciari6260 he's talking about eren
Actually people hated Chapter 139 for the same reason
@@vincenzoacciari6260 Canute and Eren kinda want the same thing, absolute freedom, they both want to create an utopia on the earth. Canute's doing it for everyone and Eren's doing it for his friends.
What's wrong with "corruption" arcs? What's so crazy about that. The fact Isayama tried to please both sides made the ending's direction worse.
Note: I like both Vinland's direction with Thorfinn and AoT despite its ending.
I thought Thorfinn's nightmares were bad but then Canute starts talking to his father's decapitated head and even killing his brother😅
Yeah everybody just gas ptsd and schizophrenia but at least Thorfinn is getting out of it
@@nnightkingj i think thorfinn is living it worst than Canute. Canute does his own choices. the consequences exists cuz of the choices he makes. Thorfinn has the ptsd from choices he made when he was a kid. the inviorment is totally different. one is killing as a grown ass dude, and one did the same thing as a kid who basically only lived for killing and only now he has realized what was his entire life until now
@@termindterguta3514 in my opinion its not like that, canute really grown up but you can see that he got influeced a lot by the crown and all that came thogether with, its not just his own choices, at the point where 2 countries for 1 king could be too risky, chaotic and get way more trouble not only for him but for the people too, and his brother support him all along, so they could have work togheter and try Canute's utopia as well. But he prefeer all the throne for himself whatever the consequences, and with cowards methods wich is crazy. His development is wild but i dont think romanticize him like ''killing as a grown ass dude'' is the point of the show.
@@termindterguta3514 actually canute has it worse than thorfinn.
MANGA SPOILERS:
thorfinn is freed from his past and has achieved salvation. he has friends and family who love and care about him. canute has no one left, no one he trusts as a family. he is still suffering from his past, and as from lost love. but canute hates war, yet is in a war (ch 182) to create an utopia. There has to a man in power that sheds blood in order to achieve peace. Canute is that person. and he was forced to grow up and become this person not because he enjoys it, but because of his responsibilities and position. he himself doesnt agree with what he's doing, but he knows it has to be done. kinda like eren yeager, but canute is way better written and you'll see by the end of this arc.
@@rumi1970dg Yukimura said he had a wife and children
Anybody dropping a show because the MC decides to become a better person got bigger issues than Thorfinn to work out lmao
Facts. The path of violence will only lead to more violence
no lie😂 and they’re all edgy fake violent people as well. talk to any fighter and they’d say how much they love this show
The worst part is that last season everyone complained about how one note Thorfinn is. Now they complain he isn't one note. Pick a side.
True lol
@@MandatoryFruit probably the same people who ask "why dont they kill titans anymore in season 4?! sHiT wAs hYpE!"
but to be fair, one could argue that thorfinn wasnt even the protagonist of the prologue. askeladd was. then the question becomes: who is the more interessting character? askeladd in season 1 or thorfinn in season 2?
Having Canute and Thorfinn essentially take opposite journeys was such a genius move. Thorfinn going from a hardened warrior who had shut off his emotions, to a wholesome guy just trying to live his life. Canute going from a wholesome guy just trying to live his life, to a hardened warrior who had to shut off his emotions. Both of them inevitably heading towards a conflict neither of them wish for.
They both have set their sites on building a better world without war or slavery. too. although Thorfinn has been humbled too much to think that building such a world is up to him alone.
Honestly Vinland Saga is one of those stories we need to see more in anime and manga.
Couldn’t agree more, this manga/anime is truly something special.
Its like KINO and DEEP
definitely
Read Kingdom , Vagabond , Beserk, Claymore
Fr my top 5 of all time 🗿🍷
One smile is gone so that another can gain it. The difference in the character growth between Thorfinn and Canute is outstanding lol
And they could have been brothers
@Luis Sierra as sweet as that mightve been in basically any other story their methods of building a "utopia" are just too different for that to have ever truly happened. Maybe if they were in different places when they first :/
Thorfinn has no character growth
@@103ivd you have to be trolling or just retarded or your English is shit that you don’t understand the story at all.
@@103ivd somehow the worst take ever, buddy
I’m happy to see that Thorfinn has accepted what is and has left behind what has been.
Oh nah he will be back to his old self but the good way, he finna throw hands in the farmland saga i can't wait for u to see that episode, he still got it 😂
Bit no worry he will understand that he can't escape being a fighter or fight in this world he has to or he'll die and never accomplish his go.
@@GRAINYPILL wrong
@@GRAINYPILL why are u spoiling the anime bro??
@@GRAINYPILL I wouldn't say "back to his old self" That's technically wrong
What’s really fucked is that from the start, you can already see Canute try to distance himself from his brother, as he only referred to him as “King Harald”, never Harald on its own. Trying to see him as just one more obstacle that needed to go down.
To be fair, it would be disrespectful for a king to not call the other king king, in public at least. Blood relations don't matter on that.
Thorfinn was rough, tries to get rid of his PTSD and starts smiling
Canute was delicate, talks to his PTSD and stops smilin
that scene of canute telling sweyn “i used to hate you, now you’re the only one i can be honest with. let’s be friends” is exactly how you surpass your fears and dreads in life.
I think you missed the part where that’s a bad thing.
I think its more like nietsches famous words "and if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will eventually gaze back at you". He became what he hated most. :)
So to conquer fear you must embrace it?
@@tradicted i meant more in the sense of respect your fears, shake it’s hand and move on.
@@phoenixwrong1150 yes, look it in its eyes shake its hand and move on
We manga readers knew farmland saga would be where children would drop the show, mature watchers stay
Children went watching myherobullshiteria
@@muramasa870 they went watching attack on mid
@@tgburn6984 nah, y'all just tryna find reasons to trash on the shows you don't like. Before you blabber any bullshit, know that I've been caught up with the Vinland saga manga and its one of my favs
You’re acting more like children then the ones complaining about this season 😂 “I’m more mature cause I enjoy animated farming and slavery”-🤓
@@Dee_is_leveling_up I bet you that those who dropped this show are aot fans who expected action and plot twists every 1-2 episodes
For those who are interested in reading along with the manga, this episode adapted the entirety of chapter 72, and the first 17 pages (out of 22 total) of chapter 73.
In regards to the passage of time (which is more explicitly indicated in the manga) this episode takes place in 1018, with it specifically being September 1018 at Ketil’s farm (and since Einar arrived at Ketil’s during the early-middle Summer of 1015, it’s been a little over 3 years since he started working with Thorfinn to clear the forest).
This currently makes Thorfinn 22 years old, and Einar 23 years old.
Some trivia for this episode: the flashback scenes of Canute and Harald as kids playing are anime original additions (though Canute discussing how he and Harald used to play the ball game is in the manga).
Also the man who Canute greets as Wulf (who is one of Canute’s loyal men) is likely based on the real-life Ulf Thorgilsson, commonly known as Ulf Jarl. Who in real-life ended up becoming Canute’s brother-in-law by way of marriage to Canute’s sister Estrid (who we meet in this episode as well).
In regards to Canute’s final lines in this episode, the manga phrased it like this: “So this is it. Nothing to it.”
The way I interpreted it is that Canute is trying to convince himself (and/or while also being sarcastic to himself) that the horrible things he has to do for his goal of utopia aren’t that significant/great a weight for him. Like he’s trying to convince himself that he doesn’t feel guilty or remorse for poisoning his brother, because it’s all for the “greater good” Canute is pursuing in his ambition.
I've seen you clarify these points (manga progression and passage of time) in almost every video of their reactions thus far. And tbh man, thank you so much I always look for your comment once the video ends just to get informed. You're doing gods work out here
Thank you for these comments. This way non manga readers can get the full picture us manga readers got. Much love ❤️
When I heard of Harald was dying I instantly thought it was Canutes doing, then I saw they had a good relationship and he came to visit and was thinking maybe he actually didn't and was like damn when it came out lol
I think that when Knut(Canute) goes «is this it?» it is about how disappointing reaching your goal is. Not just what it takes, but how sacrificing your brother for the crown doesn’t feel like a victory at all.
2:38 It's not as impossible as it looks. If you cut 2 or 3 trees per day then in just one year with no breaks you'll cut down 700-1000 trees. If you add into the fact that they'll only get better and better at it both from experience and their stronger physiques then clearing a large forest like that in three years is very doable.
Interesting how both Thorfinn and Canute saw visions of their father figures, and how the former's killed the latter's. Maybe it is foreshadowing their next meeting, no clue though
I mean, to be fair, Askeladd has killed everyone's father figures including Thorfinn's own father, so it's not much of a coincidence
Tbh guys it only get better from here, the future arcs are just top tier storytelling
Lupa gone cry at the end of the farm arc no spoilers you know why
@@ladedade23Blunticus facts
Im all for torfinn choosing to not seek violance..but i do like my viking fights..even if its not thorfin do we see others fight in later arcs?
@@imarock8763 Yeah there's a couple fights in episode 12 and even more in the next 12 after.
@@imarock8763 there's a literal war arc after Farmland and Canutes Embassy. It's the best arc in the entire series.
Nah canute lost me with this one, killing his brother who has shown him nothing but love and support is beyond evil in my eyes
His dad, King Sewyn, did warn him about the Will of the Crown last season…
Yeah i didnt realize how hard that was to watch until i rewatched it in the reaction..had to skip over them playing ball as kids cause brother was vial for doing his older brother like that.
He did it to end all war and create a utopia
It is beyond evil but that's the point, as Canute stated it was something that had to be done since two separated kingdoms will eventually mean struggle for power and war, he is playing right out of the rules for rulers book and it is great to see it because it shows how brutal you must be to hold power and keep peace.
Facts!
Dinner at Canutes house must be real tense.
nobody trying to eat anything
I'll just bring my own food
The way they directed this episode, especially the way they framed the scenes with Canute and the head, was insane
Anime original content on point, direction and storyboarding on point. Man, we're getting back to back amazing episodes.
Now rewatch the opening and see that Canute's scar on his cheek opens up as Sweyn's eye ;)
Canute is one hell of a 180° of character development!
Canute’s development is insane, but he’s truly become a rightful king. I just hope he goes down a different path than his father, but it seems for now he’ll be a much stronger version of his father. I still wonder if he’ll be different since he had the same look in his eyes and Thors did.
doesn't it look like he's already become like Sweyn? I mean, what's makes Sweyn less rightful than Canute, they both did selfish things for power under the justification of greater peace and prosperity for Norsemen
Already become sweyn, i think the only difference is canute still respect to some ppl, like Thorfin.
He's definitely not a rightful king. His whole justification for murdering his brother who always loved and supported him is bs.
@@grey_f98 the difference between the two is Sweyn resorted to millions of casualties and Pillage while Canute has a policy about that and poisons whoever he targets to avoid war.
"Its been 4, 5 years" as thorfinn says 3 years lmao
Also, appreciating you for being the real ones and keep reacting to the show. Had the feeling back in season 1 you guys really loved it (Yes, I rewatched the season finale reaction a lot haha)
1:24 that's really really funny. to those that have because Thorfin swore off violence...tough. as far as I'm concerned as I've said before, season 2 is way better than season 1 for me because Thorfin has a lot more depth, him coming round to no violence at this point shows growth...the little kid that wanted to go out to sea for violence in season 1 and then change his perspective to wanting to kill askeladd (screaming and whining about it) to a newly adult understanding more to life and finally starting to understand the path his father took. he's now seeing with the eyes of a warrior and not through the eyes of a child.
Thorfinn being actually happy for the first time since his dad died got me tearing 🥺
9:50 Canute, Elden Lord, even got the Erdtree in the back
Something broke after seeing Thorfinn finally having a laugh and just being happy, It was really good
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely
I like the contrast to both Thorfinn and Canute striving for peace in their own way while both can be seen as both right and wrong at the same time is what makes this story so interesting.
The dialogue in Vinland Saga has been immaculate since season 1 I love it sm 😭😭😭
I just can't get over this show bro, it makes me angry how fucking good it is.
5:54 damn Сanute you hit us with "sin city wasn't made for you"
"Those who live by the sword die by the sword" I think this bible quotes is simple but beautifully conveyed throughout vinland. Also the inescapable physiological damage I also found very interesting and how it is present in both thorfinn and canute and how both are following their fathers footsteps however it seems canute is on a downward spiral and thorfinn is on a upward journey. I feel like it would be a very interesting dynamic if they built these two character stories and had them cross paths later on inside the story, I feel like it would be a very interesting reunion between the two. I can't believe people actually had me considering dropping vinland by calling it farmland and mid. I love shounen like jojo and bleach but man this shit is so detailed in a different way and is just as good as the other series honestly. Can't wait for next week honestly
12:41 Love how y'all travelled back in time to explain your thoughts on episode 10
3:36 Hands are such a pain in the ass to draw I can't even imagine having to animate them especially this fluidly. Props to the animators seriously
Last episode was great for weeding out the meat heads
"yeah, that water looks wet" gdi lupa 😂
the curse of the crown is the interests of the state and its people. what is politically expedient and less risk to the leadership and how to maintain power? grow power. through conquest and pillage
Ketil literally said I’mma be back just let me just get some milk
Correct me if I'm wrong or maybe the scan was translated wrong, but in the manga Harald also said something along the line of he was going to give Denmark to Canute anyway unrelated to his sickness. In addition with the extra scenes of the anime it hurts more than a dagger to Canute, therefore "this is nothing" probably implies more to how hollow and empty he really felt in his pursuit of utopia.
Lupa lookin clean in them dreads bro
I absolutely love this anime. The pacing is incredible given the amount of times skips we've seen. And even with those time skips we are still able to see the growth in these characters and understand why they're growing the way they are. Not many mangas that I care to purchase but I think I'm going to buy this one.
Oh boy here it comes something is going to happen to the master and then:
Einar:Hey we did what we were supposed so that means we are free right?
One of the master's sons who inherited the farm: Free? Were you think you going boy.
Young Canute always made me act up
Edit: ight let me clarify, I meant the Canute in season 1
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Ayo wtf
that clarification is not helping you bro. He was still underage in s1
@Redeemr thank God I'm still 17, but yesi I have umm worded that badly
Lupa starting to look like younger Chief Keef
Canute had me feeling some type of way 😗
Canute hit that light yagami smirk
That panel of Canute chamber on the ship in his chair sleeping is so godaamn gorgeous in MANGA....o can't praise the art enough
Its crazy that Canute now looks like a young Thorfinn (with a beard) and Thorfinn like a young Canute.
They even swapped personalities from when they met.
ptsd wouldn't be the right word for what Canute is experiencing, more like guilt and a little tinge of insanity
Though a lot of us miss the old Thorfinn-violent-character, but I actually love the new Thorfinn. His character development is phenomenal. He will still fight though, but in a good way. Rather than killing, he will save people. He's gonna follow his Father's footsteps.
11:25 look at Lupa do the devious Glasses readjustment, preparing to make a devious comment🤣
Canute on his Viking Griffith arc rn
I'm a ride or die Canute fan but I can't respect that move against his brother, it seemed they had a good relationship too😭😭
Hoed that man smh 🤦♂️
It had to be done for the the good of the kingdom's and it also kepts it under a single monarch instead of losing it with succession
same omg it upsets me sm lol
soo your not a ride or die.
Nah bro killing your own brother is wild
Even griffith wouldn't go that low that's beyond evil
That flash back scene with Canute and his big bro with that ost playing had me teary eye. 😢
Peakland back with another amazing ep , canute character development is insane
"oH nO, tHorFiNn bEcOmeS a bEtteR pErson and nOt bEiNg aN eDgE loRd aNyMore, dRoPPed 🤓"
Thorfinn with the software update coming in clutch
To me, these last 2 episodes showed Thorfinn with he's father Figure who helped while Canutes actual father to him was less helpful in terms of growth but informative in the curse of the king. Fathers to the two main characters and what they represent to them
I like how Canute and Thorfinn are like two sides of the same coin. They're like Hawk and Robbie from Cobra Kai. One learns the importance of being dangerous when needed, the other learns pasifism and peace.
Something I found interesting is Canute looks like askalade. So, in a weird way Canute has become a darker version of the man he killed. Meanwhile, thorfinn has become a better version of the boy he was.
It feels like each episode is about 6 min long 😂. It goes by so quick
In the end it wouldn't matter how good the two Kings' relationship is, there's no guarantee that their heirs won't go to war to unite the realms. The way Canute sees it, it's better to resolve the issue as cleanly as possible.
@@UCpkYRJqLxnyFOAThat's true, but Canute is doing what he can to mitigate the issue.
The fact that ppl drop THIS show and hang onto Bungo is beyond me... this show solid af
Bungou is good tho.. It's one of the best airing right now, along with farmland saga hehehe
"You'll be free once I get back." I'm just going out to buy some milk.😂
funny enought if you look up the history of it, the real canute was also known for killing his enemies with poison.
Canute at the end was referring to the fact that that's all it was, that was his only precious memory with his brother, he's not going to mourn
Great Reaction, i love all the vinland saga reactions! One of the most realistic shows ever. Glad you enjoy it as much as me and other fans
I have a scary feeling Einar might try to interfere with rescuing Arnheid from Ketil and it'll cause some rift in them becoming free after all this time Einar and Thorfinn have been working towards achieving their freedom...
Imagine dropping a show because it's good.
Trivia : Cnute brother is Harald II . the second. Harald The First is Sweyn's father, Cnute's grandfather.
and that Harald the first. Harald Gormsson, have a nickname "Bluetooth" and that Harald "The Bluetooth" Gormsson is the namesake of the bluetooth connection system that we use to day.
3:46 that's my twin right there had the same answer as Lupa
"It is hard for a good man to be king"
People who don't like Thorfinn's development and wants him to continue killing seriously needs to see a therapist or better yet, to know Jesus Christ.
i love this story bro. i knew ppl were gonna end up dropping it this season.
What's interesting to me about this episode is that nothing is said about what sort of a ruler Harald was. Instead, it goes over what the brothers' relationship was like.
He could have been a saint, or he could have been a vicious warlord. It makes no difference in the end. His death was 'necessary' for Canute to achieve his ambitions.
Thorfinn has the weight of hundreds of strangers that he killed on his shoulders but Canute has only killed a few people directly but they're people he knew well. They're both cursed by what they've done but in different ways, its an interesting contrast
"yeah ... that water look' fat" Lupa-san, 2023
Thorfinn's dropping violence but Canute taking the violence path
12:40 minor editing mistake on episode number (changed from 10 to 9)
That shit reminded me of "Life" when the Warden/Superintendent said he was gonna free them after finding out about them being framed and then went and died on the shitter....lol
Man was like the movie Life. "Y'all will be free, just let me go to the bathroom real quick." Idk if he's gonna die here but that would be funny as hell
What's crazy is if this was a live action HBO show it probably would be universally loved. But since most anime fans have the attention span of children they hate hate it for not being the slaughter fest it was in the first season.
The parallels between Canute and Thorfinn are interesting. One was a murderer and became a pacifist, the other was a pacifist and became a murderer. Both wanting to bring peace to the world by their own ways.
7:08 y’all got me dead af 💀
Harald got that Visery's treatment lol
Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Last episode filtered all the teenagers and the mature watchers.
*_Looks at Canute's backstory_* yup, you cannot spell Canute without "cute"
the people who dropped this show have no idea what is coming, such a magnificent show and story telling
You cant be a good ruler and a good person.
Canute understand that and is trading his soul for greatness.
Ayo my comment just got highlighted in the video. Didn't expect that lol.
Canute became an Elden ring boss for a second
Amazing episode and amazing reaction and review to it as always, I love your videos fam
Canuto transformation is amazing