If I remember correctly, the Commando 9 has similar stats to the old version of Jägers 417, maybe you should have included it in the assaulrifle video alongside Jägers rifle. By the way where is Vigils K1A???
@@jaycee53 I guess so, however as an unexperienced gamer it's just confusing that the official labels Ubisoft gave their guns don't match those in this video xD
rating the guns so strongly weighted to dps misses a lot, and leads to guns being ranked way off of how they actually stack up in everyone's opinion. there is a reason why the mpx and g36 get picked every round despite being statistically below average in their respective categories. siege is such a complex game and with 1-shot headshot the ease and comfort of use for guns should be weighted in these kinds of videos. would also love to hear more of your own personal opinion!
I agree. But there is now real way to list them based on their perceived view by the community. With the MPX the only way i could make it make sense would be to weight the guns low recoil heavily. But I dont think that tells the full story of the gun. And statistically the gun is awful. And thats kind of what this series is meant to be
@@BMP honestly, i think it would have made sense to weigh recoil very heavily, since 1-shot headshot is a thing. that mechanic puts high rof and low recoil as even more important than damage when guns are used by players good enough to hit those headshots consistently
@@Mmjk_12 That's just not true in a military context; maybe for civilian ownership laws but the length of the barrel has nothing to do with it. Even Beretta's website calls it a submachine gun. It's entirely to do with it having a pistol cartridge.
Gun nerd here . For everyone that doesn't know; the Commando 9 fires a pistol cartridge so it isn't an assault rifle , the K1A fires an intermediate cartridge so it isn't an SMG .
Thats true that the commando 9 is an smg and the K1A is a carbine but if your ranking all the weapons of a specific class in a video game, you should include every weapon in that class for better learning purposes.
Yes the K1A by definition is a assault rifle being that is select fire and fires a intermediate cartridge, but in the South Korean military its categorice as an SMG becouse it replaced the M3 grease gun in service.
@@FPSgamer94 We talk about world classification cause even czechs had Assault rifle called SMG(Samopal vzor 58). Its old classification and you shoudnt be inspired by it.
I'm SO glad someone brought up the FMG-9's recoil! Everyone keeps telling me that it's "not that bad," and I "must be ADDING recoil!" Granted, kinda outed myself as a low-end player, but I wear my Tinfoil 2 Rank proudly!
Even without the 1.5x, the UZK is hella good. Also why is the commando, wich is calssified as an ar and the K1A is not here even if it's classified as an smg
The commando 9 as the name suggests shoots 9mm which is a handgun round, siege incorrectly labels it as an AR and the K1A is in a weird place where it shoots a rifle round (5.56) but depending on the source some label it as an SMG. Long story short, in my not expert but gun nerd opinion it should be classified as a rifle.
For future ranking videos, it might be more useful to rank based off of ttk instead of dps. TTK matters so much more w/ smgs: lots of attackers have rifles that 3 shot kill 2 health or even 3 health ops. Since the extended barrel buff reduced the shots to kill by 1 for 2 health operators for a lot of smgs, just knowing that your gun on the defender's side can 3 shot kill with a decent firerate is so helpful. I remember Vigil felt horrible in gunfights back in lmg meta when playing against zofia or finka since k1a at 36 dmg 720 firerate 4 shot kills 2 health ops without having an insane firerate for headshots. Now it 3 shot kills w/ extended barrel against 2 health ops, which is most of the meta attack ops. You can always just headshot the first couple of bullets, but I think there is a good reason why thorn uzk (extended barrel) with a 1.5x feels better to frag with compared to warden mpx w/ 1.5x or frost's 9mm c1 w/ 1.5x: better ttk than warden's smg while still feeling ok for headshots compared to frost's smg and faster ttk due to higher rof. Even at Emerald/Diamond elo, not every gunfight comes down to headshots. I chose these guns just as examples: in your vid you could even rank guns like the vector a few spots lower while putting guns like the fmg9 and pdw even higher. Even the ump could potentially go up a few spots. Prob above frost's gun tbh: the ump can 3 shot 3 health ops w/ higher rof and 1.5x on both castle and pulse. I didn't include the exact ttks b/c you can honestly just compare dmg breakpoints and firerates in game, but there are probably spreadsheets out there for this purpose.
this ranking doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, he focuses too much on dps and fire rate, but realistically damage doesn’t matter that much when you can land a hs with low recoil and high rps. and for damages really only 3 values matter, 34 37 and 42, damage needed to down a 1 2 3 armor operator. So the ump with extended barrel making it 42damage, it has the shortest time to kill in all of the ump, and placing it at the bottom of the tier lost with a lot of viable weapons doesn’t make sense
Great video, and I agree with your rankings for the most part, but where is Alibi's Mx4 Storm? That is easily one of the top ten SMGs in the game. I also noticed that Vigil's K1A is also missing. I am curious where you'd rank those.
when you talk about extended barrel you should talk about the damage breakpoints. Roni, for example, cant kill medium target in 4 shots, but extended barrel changes that.
It’s kinda annoying to think that the vector has so much recoil when it’s real life counterpart was designed specifically to mitigate it. Siege is really an unrealistic realism shooter.
the mozzie’s commando is not better than his other gun unless you are fighting two people at a time. 16 bullets is enough if your aim is not terrible, and also its recoil is mostly vertical making it easy to control and hit shots
Some of these I disagree with heavily like the MPX and P90. You say that the damage output isn’t good. Why are you relying on body shots? SMGs with low recoil and great since you can reliably hit heads better. The P90 means you can spray and hit their head with no recoil and a single head tap. The MPX with no recoil means about the same thing. Body shots aren’t what SMGs are good at. It’s head shots. I think high fire rates and low recoil are what make the best SMGs on defense. Not scopes or damage output.
The mp7 can fit an extended barrel and it has a dps of 525 with it. Also just asking why does the commando, uzi k and Aug para all have different dps stats when they have exactly the same fire rate of 700 and dmg of 36? You also forgot the K1A if you consider it a smg but that is your take. Just some constructive criticism I don't mean to hate
@@olgerqefalia1601 Tbf like the K1A that is up to speculation as the commando chambers pistol ammunition. In real life it is classified as an SMG as well (Colt 9mm SMG)
For those who dont know weapons K1A shoots 5.56 its has writen on magazine so its AR not SMG.And Commando shoots 9mm so its SMG people think that UBI have right classification but they are not.Kaids gun is smg too(AUG)
I'm honestly surprised people don't play Bandit for his gun more often. Yeah, his gadget sucks ass, but Warden's isn't exactly a homerun either and he still has an insanely high pick rate.
The gadget bandit has doesn’t really suck to be honest. In the current meta, Thatcher is almost always banned. While there are a ton of operators who can easily deal with bandit’s batteries, I’d argue that his gadget can still be used efficiently if you bandit trick. Though if this were before impact emps were introduced, I would argue that you’re 100% wrong. But I can’t. And while Bandit has a great gun, there are plenty of other operators with guns that yes pale in comparison, but they also have gadgets that are much better. For example, Azami, her smg, the only primary I use for on her, is middle of the pact in terms of smgs, but her gadget is S Tier as it can basically change the environment around you in game, making it so that whenever an enemy engages in gun fight with you, it will 9 times out of 10 be on your turf, and your terms.
I mean bandits gadget doesn't really suck sure it's easier to counter with someone like Kali or Thatcher or any sort of explosive utility but still bandit tricking is a 100x easier than laid tricking as kaid tricking requires more precise timing while bandit tricking has a little bit of leeway I mean sure there's not a lot of leeway but there's enough
Kind of funny such a powerful kid and has both The strongest SMG and AR and he doesn't get any problems with people complaining about him. Love it as a zero main.
Well it matters because nobody in this games history has a 100% headshot hit ratio it's not possible to hit a head every single bullet that's why dps matters because most people even if they think they hit a lot of headshots most likely don't and rely way more on bodysuits than they realise thats the reason why dps matters that you can well hit bodies as it's well way more consistent to hit body shots than it is headshots trust me
@@Lhiggy13yeah I have no idea what that guy is tripping on it does have low recoil especially if you're playing mouse and keyboard it's super easy to control and is one of my favorites mostly because of how good Solis is as the ita12 sucks ass like literally once I was like 5 Meyers away from a person and they didn't even get downed
I mean I'm like bronze to silver and I can control like all of these guns very easily like all of them they're all very easy like maybe the toughest for me is either the fmg or the pdw but even then it's super easy to use both of em
@@ireallydontknow278 i can control them without problem too, but its best to talk about recoil objectively, since people arent equally as good at recoil control
I’ve always said this, his loadout it really solid, has great gadgets, good secondary, very underrated ability, he reminds me of buck of being a great solo op and having everything you need in a attack op
Great video although one of the things I’m weary about is the use of dps, no gunfight in siege lasts a second as we only have 100-145 hp which every gun has a ttk less than a second
I think no defender should have a 2x sight. For one thing it merets more spawn-peeking, and defending is easier than attacking due to the fact that attacking takes more coordination. The fact that changing sights on weapons is basically the only patches siege makes now is extremely sad, because there is so much they can change for the better in this game than just changing sights and needing operators that don’t need to be nerfed (Nokk and Vigil for example)
I feel like it should be on defence but only on 1 specific weapon kaids and goyos shotgun as that well actually requires skill to use since it's not a fully automatic weapon that you can just fire until the mag runs out i mean sure you can spam it but that again requires a lot of skill to keep the bastard in place so the shots actually connect to your target
Using dps is kinda pointless in a game where headshots insta kill… anything high firerate, low recoil with a large mag and 1.5 is litterally going to be king… hence the warden meta 😂 Mpx is s teir, (“ statistically speaking “ ) it currently has the best kill rate out of any of the defender guns 💀
He has the best takes ive ever seen on a tier list. But he mentioned different scopes for the mp7 and if you know what you know then mp7 iron sights is the best
You forget one importent strength of the commando... the reload animation.
reload animation is fire
@@Alex-y2f1bI use his commando just for reloading animations and sentences that Mozzie says in my native language haha
It's not even an SMG?
@@popdop0074not that commando 🤦
@@digitall35 I believe commando 9 is rabeled "Asuult rifle" in game, although the gun in real life is smg
Well, to be fair the Commando 9 from Mozzie is officially labled as an "assault rifle" and not a SMG, thus the insane stats.
If I remember correctly, the Commando 9 has similar stats to the old version of Jägers 417, maybe you should have included it in the assaulrifle video alongside Jägers rifle. By the way where is Vigils K1A???
@@ChrisiRex He classed it as an AR in the Best AR video
@@hzd9ur talking about k1a?
@@ChrisiRexThe K1A fires 5.56 and the Commando 9 fires 9mm so they have it reversed lol
@@jaycee53 I guess so, however as an unexperienced gamer it's just confusing that the official labels Ubisoft gave their guns don't match those in this video xD
rating the guns so strongly weighted to dps misses a lot, and leads to guns being ranked way off of how they actually stack up in everyone's opinion. there is a reason why the mpx and g36 get picked every round despite being statistically below average in their respective categories. siege is such a complex game and with 1-shot headshot the ease and comfort of use for guns should be weighted in these kinds of videos. would also love to hear more of your own personal opinion!
I agree. But there is now real way to list them based on their perceived view by the community. With the MPX the only way i could make it make sense would be to weight the guns low recoil heavily. But I dont think that tells the full story of the gun. And statistically the gun is awful. And thats kind of what this series is meant to be
@@BMP honestly, i think it would have made sense to weigh recoil very heavily, since 1-shot headshot is a thing. that mechanic puts high rof and low recoil as even more important than damage when guns are used by players good enough to hit those headshots consistently
Nothing for the Mx4 Storm for Alibi?
yeah and k1a for vigil
@@hydrosmurf-3710 val is sad with her mpx too .... :(
@@Mmjk_12 Mx4 is a 9mm smg, it even has magazine compatibility with Beretta M9
@@Mmjk_12 That's just not true in a military context; maybe for civilian ownership laws but the length of the barrel has nothing to do with it. Even Beretta's website calls it a submachine gun. It's entirely to do with it having a pistol cartridge.
@@Mmjk_12 Rainbow Six Siege isn't about civilians, i'm just wondering why it's not on this tier list
Gun nerd here . For everyone that doesn't know; the Commando 9 fires a pistol cartridge so it isn't an assault rifle , the K1A fires an intermediate cartridge so it isn't an SMG .
I throught that if you look at magazine its obvious you cant fit rifle round in that so i didnt even need to info from game 😂
Thats true that the commando 9 is an smg and the K1A is a carbine but if your ranking all the weapons of a specific class in a video game, you should include every weapon in that class for better learning purposes.
@@vincnzo16 Well thats mistake from youruber doing this video alibi smg is missing .
Yes the K1A by definition is a assault rifle being that is select fire and fires a intermediate cartridge, but in the South Korean military its categorice as an SMG becouse it replaced the M3 grease gun in service.
@@FPSgamer94 We talk about world classification cause even czechs had Assault rifle called SMG(Samopal vzor 58). Its old classification and you shoudnt be inspired by it.
Saying a guns accuracy doesn’t effect how good it is is wild, in a ONE SHOT headshot game
Ngl this ranking is pretty horrible
This is old that’s why 😂
@@frostymarsh5566it still wasn’t great when it was made, i think he used paper stats more than he did his own opinion
I'm SO glad someone brought up the FMG-9's recoil! Everyone keeps telling me that it's "not that bad," and I "must be ADDING recoil!"
Granted, kinda outed myself as a low-end player, but I wear my Tinfoil 2 Rank proudly!
The recoil change and nerf every gun brought the worst tdm meta.
I mean, I’m copper 3 and I can control it pretty well with Smoke.
Yeah the FMG-9 actually has pretty hard jumpy recoil compared to other guns tbh
it has recoil I’ll admit but it’s literally just vertical
not like it’s all over the place like the finka lmg
@@professiggitways Yeah, I even run extended barrel with it since the recoil isn’t really THAT bad..
This guy is hella underrated
Eh
@@Dctctx💀
Thanks babe 😘
I swear
Ikr only 29k subs.
Ayyy great series man. Loving it so far
Gonna keep cooking up with this over the next couple months
Uhhhh, we forgetting the MX4 Storm???
glad i wasnt the only one to notice
Even without the 1.5x, the UZK is hella good. Also why is the commando, wich is calssified as an ar and the K1A is not here even if it's classified as an smg
The commando is incorrectly classified as an assault rifle. The K1A is correctly classified as an SMG. Look it up
@@phantomsights4533 but why is the K1A not here
@@tag4042 Because I think he forgot to add it and forgot that it’s not an assault rifle. People make mistkes
@@phantomsights4533eh, not really. it's confusing.
The commando 9 as the name suggests shoots 9mm which is a handgun round, siege incorrectly labels it as an AR and the K1A is in a weird place where it shoots a rifle round (5.56) but depending on the source some label it as an SMG. Long story short, in my not expert but gun nerd opinion it should be classified as a rifle.
I saw the MP7 in F tier in the thumbnail and I got worried
Zero just have the 2 best gun in the game and both with the 1.5 . Insane
For future ranking videos, it might be more useful to rank based off of ttk instead of dps. TTK matters so much more w/ smgs: lots of attackers have rifles that 3 shot kill 2 health or even 3 health ops. Since the extended barrel buff reduced the shots to kill by 1 for 2 health operators for a lot of smgs, just knowing that your gun on the defender's side can 3 shot kill with a decent firerate is so helpful. I remember Vigil felt horrible in gunfights back in lmg meta when playing against zofia or finka since k1a at 36 dmg 720 firerate 4 shot kills 2 health ops without having an insane firerate for headshots. Now it 3 shot kills w/ extended barrel against 2 health ops, which is most of the meta attack ops. You can always just headshot the first couple of bullets, but I think there is a good reason why thorn uzk (extended barrel) with a 1.5x feels better to frag with compared to warden mpx w/ 1.5x or frost's 9mm c1 w/ 1.5x: better ttk than warden's smg while still feeling ok for headshots compared to frost's smg and faster ttk due to higher rof. Even at Emerald/Diamond elo, not every gunfight comes down to headshots. I chose these guns just as examples: in your vid you could even rank guns like the vector a few spots lower while putting guns like the fmg9 and pdw even higher. Even the ump could potentially go up a few spots. Prob above frost's gun tbh: the ump can 3 shot 3 health ops w/ higher rof and 1.5x on both castle and pulse. I didn't include the exact ttks b/c you can honestly just compare dmg breakpoints and firerates in game, but there are probably spreadsheets out there for this purpose.
Definitely clicked on the thumbnail because the MP7 was in F tier, so glad it beat out the vector. Ggwp on the youtube algorithm
This guys dedication and video quality are to good for how underrated he is 😭😭
this ranking doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, he focuses too much on dps and fire rate, but realistically damage doesn’t matter that much when you can land a hs with low recoil and high rps. and for damages really only 3 values matter, 34 37 and 42, damage needed to down a 1 2 3 armor operator. So the ump with extended barrel making it 42damage, it has the shortest time to kill in all of the ump, and placing it at the bottom of the tier lost with a lot of viable weapons doesn’t make sense
Great video, and I agree with your rankings for the most part, but where is Alibi's Mx4 Storm? That is easily one of the top ten SMGs in the game. I also noticed that Vigil's K1A is also missing. I am curious where you'd rank those.
He forgor 💀
The PERFECT tier list. Love deep diving into stats and this video summarized everything perfectly
Babe wake up. New Beast mod vid out
LETSSS GOOOOOOOOOO
crazy how zero has two of the best weapons in the game in his kit
also where is alibis gun
Geil, ich habe eine wirklich lange Zeit gewartet, dieses Video zu hearuskommen. 🙏🏻
Bro your dedication to TH-cam I was once in your position, I dropped a sub, left a like. Keep up the vids I will watch.
C9 pre nerf was the best in the game 45 dmg 1.5 no recoil and slighty higher mag size
so.... both zero's primary guns are BeastMod's favorite guns lol...
The t5 smg has one of the LOWEST recoils🤦♂️
I agree. Maybe it feels different on keyboard
I might be trippin but I’m pretty sure you forgot alibis and vigils smg
Yeah I'm a little slow 💀
@@BMP it’s all good lol 😂
K1A is not smg its assault rifle and smg 12 is secondary so vigil dont have to be there but abour alibi you are right.
@@SainsSDR3SD no the k1a is an smg search it up 🙃
@@SainsSDR3SDk1A is listed as an smg in the game
when you talk about extended barrel you should talk about the damage breakpoints. Roni, for example, cant kill medium target in 4 shots, but extended barrel changes that.
Mp7 will always be amazing.
honestly, mira and goyo vector is better for me. Due to its insanee fire speed, easier to use in 1v1 battle
I’m convinced bro can’t control recoil
Hands down the best siege TH-camr
Thanks mate 💙
The MPX being at number 17 is a hate crime
fax my g
Please keep making vids like this, they are amazing
I find it funny how both of Sam's guns are the absolute best.
It’s kinda annoying to think that the vector has so much recoil when it’s real life counterpart was designed specifically to mitigate it. Siege is really an unrealistic realism shooter.
Good rating tbh but saying the T5 got an insane amount of recoil is crazy.
Sooo zero has both the best assault rifle AND smg. Nice
I feel like the dps comparison is not that relevant in a 1 shot headshot game like r6
this is the first time ive heard some1 complain about the fmg9 recoil but then turn around and say the commando 9 has GOOD recoil wild
I know people are saying it but my dude
The commando has the most fun animation in the entire game
the mozzie’s commando is not better than his other gun unless you are fighting two people at a time. 16 bullets is enough if your aim is not terrible, and also its recoil is mostly vertical making it easy to control and hit shots
Not everyone is in champion.
if both of mozzie’s guns had a 1.5 everyone’s switching to the commando lol
@@Inhaler22PSI’m a bronze 2 console player and my aim is still good enough that I can consistently land headshots with a P10
Where are Mx4 Storm and K1A?
Is alibi’s primary gun not an smg?
No it is
Make an updated list. Do it
Mx4 Storm ? Where is it ? And the K1A ?
Did my man forget to rank the MX4 Storm?? Alibi's SMG?
And the K1A lmao
I think it’s important to consider the time to kill and how many rounds you have to lay down before you can get a headshot
Judging by these rankings... Are we playing the same game?
Both of zeros primaries are at the top of two videos just proves how good he is
Been playing a lot of Bandit lately and can't agree more with the MP7 spot.
Do u run extended barrel on him?
Was waiting for this since the AR version
Dude you’ve been on a tear lately
Some of these I disagree with heavily like the MPX and P90. You say that the damage output isn’t good. Why are you relying on body shots? SMGs with low recoil and great since you can reliably hit heads better. The P90 means you can spray and hit their head with no recoil and a single head tap. The MPX with no recoil means about the same thing. Body shots aren’t what SMGs are good at. It’s head shots. I think high fire rates and low recoil are what make the best SMGs on defense. Not scopes or damage output.
MP7 is my favorite gun in the game, because it’s absolutely OP.
having the aug smg at number 8 is absolutely horrendous. I know your a copper. Also where is vigil's smg?
What abt the mx4 storm
The mp7 can fit an extended barrel and it has a dps of 525 with it. Also just asking why does the commando, uzi k and Aug para all have different dps stats when they have exactly the same fire rate of 700 and dmg of 36? You also forgot the K1A if you consider it a smg but that is your take. Just some constructive criticism I don't mean to hate
commando has 780 firerate
I apologise for this error. I always thought it was 700rpm from memory for some reason
And the Commando is an AR and not an SMG.
The guy didn't do the homework
@@olgerqefalia1601 Tbf like the K1A that is up to speculation as the commando chambers pistol ammunition. In real life it is classified as an SMG as well (Colt 9mm SMG)
Did the alibi Mx4 get nerfed? Last time I used it, was a laserbeam and great for headshots
The FMG-9 had a firerate of 800 I thought ?
P90 > MP5 prove me wrong
What ab the K1A
you forgot K1A
Where is Alibi gun?
Wait… you have a new mic or am I tripping? Sounds better than before!
Yeah I got a new mic a couple of weeks ago. I'm happy pretty happy with it
For those who dont know weapons K1A shoots 5.56 its has writen on magazine so its AR not SMG.And Commando shoots 9mm so its SMG people think that UBI have right classification but they are not.Kaids gun is smg too(AUG)
Have you ranked the ranked maps yet?
The ump is literally godly on castle extended barrel 1.5
If u can hit heads first tap... cuz that fire rate and damage are not helping you
I'm honestly surprised people don't play Bandit for his gun more often. Yeah, his gadget sucks ass, but Warden's isn't exactly a homerun either and he still has an insanely high pick rate.
they love the 1.5 scope, why do you think ash’s g36c is more picked than the r4c
The gadget bandit has doesn’t really suck to be honest. In the current meta, Thatcher is almost always banned. While there are a ton of operators who can easily deal with bandit’s batteries, I’d argue that his gadget can still be used efficiently if you bandit trick. Though if this were before impact emps were introduced, I would argue that you’re 100% wrong. But I can’t. And while Bandit has a great gun, there are plenty of other operators with guns that yes pale in comparison, but they also have gadgets that are much better. For example, Azami, her smg, the only primary I use for on her, is middle of the pact in terms of smgs, but her gadget is S Tier as it can basically change the environment around you in game, making it so that whenever an enemy engages in gun fight with you, it will 9 times out of 10 be on your turf, and your terms.
I mean bandits gadget doesn't really suck sure it's easier to counter with someone like Kali or Thatcher or any sort of explosive utility but still bandit tricking is a 100x easier than laid tricking as kaid tricking requires more precise timing while bandit tricking has a little bit of leeway I mean sure there's not a lot of leeway but there's enough
where’s the K1A since you didn’t include it in the assault rifle video
I'm going to be 100% honest, I forgot about it. Had it in my stats chart and everything and just didn't add it in the video 💀
Kind of funny such a powerful kid and has both The strongest SMG and AR and he doesn't get any problems with people complaining about him. Love it as a zero main.
Elas gun over wardens 😂😂😂
Just a suggestion instead of dps you should base it off of how many shots it takes to kill a 110 opponent because that is practical.
Lol😊
Why does dps matter so much when headshots are hit so often
Exactly p90 might do no damage but that doesn’t matter when you have a crazy fire rate with low recoil
@@Lhiggy13
that peashooter does not have low recoil lmao
@@professiggitways idk what to tell you I think it’s very easy to control. Are you on mouse and keyboard or controller?
Well it matters because nobody in this games history has a 100% headshot hit ratio it's not possible to hit a head every single bullet that's why dps matters because most people even if they think they hit a lot of headshots most likely don't and rely way more on bodysuits than they realise thats the reason why dps matters that you can well hit bodies as it's well way more consistent to hit body shots than it is headshots trust me
@@Lhiggy13yeah I have no idea what that guy is tripping on it does have low recoil especially if you're playing mouse and keyboard it's super easy to control and is one of my favorites mostly because of how good Solis is as the ita12 sucks ass like literally once I was like 5 Meyers away from a person and they didn't even get downed
The UMP is fine tbh, it's on Pulse and Castle because if they had any weapon better, they'd be broken.
The best part of MP7 - is it's iron sights.
You ranked mp5 high for its magnification sight but ignored mpx's 1.5?
You focus too much on dps.
P90 is a little headshot machine with high ammo, fire rate, and low recoil.
Most of these guns he’s saying have recoil just don’t maybe its cuz I’m like diamond-champ but idk if this is supposed to be for beginners or what
hes talking objectively
I mean I'm like bronze to silver and I can control like all of these guns very easily like all of them they're all very easy like maybe the toughest for me is either the fmg or the pdw but even then it's super easy to use both of em
@@ireallydontknow278 i can control them without problem too, but its best to talk about recoil objectively, since people arent equally as good at recoil control
@@megacoolarto that is true
zero is so underrated he has the best SMG and the best Assault Rifle
I’ve always said this, his loadout it really solid, has great gadgets, good secondary, very underrated ability, he reminds me of buck of being a great solo op and having everything you need in a attack op
Great video although one of the things I’m weary about is the use of dps, no gunfight in siege lasts a second as we only have 100-145 hp which every gun has a ttk less than a second
Also headshots being imstant
i guess you forgot vigil?
Damage doesn’t matter when u can tap heads
its sad to see that the Scorpion, once the best by a land slide, is now in the bottom half of this tier list.
i got black ice p10 in my first pack ever in siege, i strated yesterday and doesnt the p10 have 18 bullets?
I gotta start using different SMGS more often man. I’ve been using the MP5’s a lot😅
Pretty sure the FMG has 800 fire rate on 34. Not 900…
You’re right
You’re right
I think no defender should have a 2x sight. For one thing it merets more spawn-peeking, and defending is easier than attacking due to the fact that attacking takes more coordination. The fact that changing sights on weapons is basically the only patches siege makes now is extremely sad, because there is so much they can change for the better in this game than just changing sights and needing operators that don’t need to be nerfed (Nokk and Vigil for example)
I feel like it should be on defence but only on 1 specific weapon kaids and goyos shotgun as that well actually requires skill to use since it's not a fully automatic weapon that you can just fire until the mag runs out i mean sure you can spam it but that again requires a lot of skill to keep the bastard in place so the shots actually connect to your target
Great video, but it would be nice if you included operator icons for each weapon, so we actually know which operators are affected.
Good idea but most committed siege players who would watch a video like this know most ops and there weaopns of by heart.
@@archieshaw3482 True, I'm just a basic Jäger main lmao.
You can see at the top at least 1 of the operators that has the gun
Just go through the operators
bro put the mpx at 17. L list.
I love the FMG9, just slap a compensator on it and your set
where is k1a?
Using dps is kinda pointless in a game where headshots insta kill… anything high firerate, low recoil with a large mag and 1.5 is litterally going to be king… hence the warden meta 😂
Mpx is s teir, (“ statistically speaking “ ) it currently has the best kill rate out of any of the defender guns 💀
the commando is an AR in game why tf is it on an SMG list?
So zero has the best AR and SMG? Bro is underrated
NEVER RATE AGAIN🗣🗣
I don't know if i slept on this weapon but what is with the Mx4 Storm from Alibi?
This is a weird take, but am I the only person that felt like the T-5 was better without a grip options, like it felt so much better in a sense idk
He has the best takes ive ever seen on a tier list. But he mentioned different scopes for the mp7 and if you know what you know then mp7 iron sights is the best
I agree iron sights are better for me.
i was waiting to see where k1a would be but not here😢
Why K1A an assault rifle would be in smg rating?