This Unexploded Sidewinder Missile Got Stuck in a MiG-17 and Mailed to the Soviets

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  • The American Sidewinder missile was unlike any other at the time. The Soviet Union and China envied the weapon’s capabilities, as it allowed a U.S.-armed Taiwan to successfully take down MiG fighter aircraft by the end of 1958
    However, their jealousy did not last long after one of the American-made missiles failed to detonate when it met a Chinese plane. Safely lodged intact and sticking out of the fuselage, the Sidewinder would soon be delivered to the Soviets. By reverse-engineering the weapon, the USSR would make it accessible to the Warsaw Pact, enraging the Americans.
    Not content with their initial intellectual theft, the Soviets would later launch a daring espionage mission to avoid inventing upgrades to the missile themselves...
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  • @sd906238
    @sd906238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    During the Vietnam war an F-105 was hit by missile fired by North Vietnam fighter. The missile didn't explode but got embedded in the F-105. When the US Air Force inspected the missile they found that the parts were interchangable with the US sidewinder missiles.

  • @Jay-ln1co
    @Jay-ln1co 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1608

    "Hello, police, I'd like to report a theft. They ran away with my bullets in them."

    • @coolfungame8467
      @coolfungame8467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ok

    • @ronnknnock5435
      @ronnknnock5435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Police: I hope those are tracking rounds!

    • @kospencer1
      @kospencer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You are not wrong to use this analogy, this happened at a time when Taiwanese ROCAF would fly sorties into Chinese Mainland.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Police: WHAT THE HELL KINDA CRANK CALL IS THIS?!

    • @jahidahiden5088
      @jahidahiden5088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      dont use 9m.instead cal40 or cal45 for sure they stuck infront of you

  • @andie_pants
    @andie_pants 4 ปีที่แล้ว +906

    In China and Russia, R&D means "Requisition & Disassembly."

    • @coolfungame8467
      @coolfungame8467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ur mom

    • @abandonedchannel281
      @abandonedchannel281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Spicy Booger got em

    • @christucker7434
      @christucker7434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Very true

    • @High_7
      @High_7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      China yes. Russia no. Americans stole many pioneer techs from soviets too like of mig25a and mig 21. China just copies everything Russia makes because it is accessible to them easily.

    • @Internetbutthurt
      @Internetbutthurt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Not in the case of Russia or Soviet Union. Its a falsehood they just copied though they would do it if it saved them R&D. There was very few true copies of western stuff the Soviets actually used. PS modern US missiles actually adopted some design elements of late Soviet designs so everyone does it.

  • @chaoticneutral4665
    @chaoticneutral4665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +862

    The lack of F-86 Saber footage is disturbing

    • @moonbear2130
      @moonbear2130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Agreed, my only real criticism of this channel is his affinity to talk about one thing while showing footage of another, for example in his xb-70 Valkyrie easily half or more of all aircraft footage shown was of the Concorde

    • @21reasons47
      @21reasons47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      1:50
      Talking about the saber *Shows F-104*

    • @Revelationsvidya
      @Revelationsvidya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Unfortunately there wasn't much footage of most aircraft pre 1970/that hasn't been bought up by companies and force you to pay them royalties for using it.

    • @AngleSideSideThm
      @AngleSideSideThm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Even static images with a label would be better than nothing

    • @R3C0NxXx
      @R3C0NxXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I have to agree. Maybe showing a quick image of the object in question when it gets mentioned would be a decent compromise. Even just on top of the background footage would do it

  • @jonathanfrank1189
    @jonathanfrank1189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +755

    No wonder they got caught, they mailed a freaking Missile

    • @Max-rg2fd
      @Max-rg2fd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      They mailed a missile for 80 bucks, a missile that could destroy a 800k bucks aircraft

    • @mylifeonthepeninsula9521
      @mylifeonthepeninsula9521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Max 2 I think it’s more then 800k

    • @xxfuqqyocouch
      @xxfuqqyocouch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Max-rg2fd keep inflation in mind, too lazy to figure out how much that would be today.

    • @Max-rg2fd
      @Max-rg2fd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@xxfuqqyocouch I thought of that but me is also too lazy

    • @pgtmr2713
      @pgtmr2713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Candygram for Mongo

  • @jamesshaw3500
    @jamesshaw3500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +555

    We are so kind, we give our enemies our most advanced weapons to reverse engineer.

    • @Captain_Tumbleweed
      @Captain_Tumbleweed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      It's to ensure Mutual Assured Destruction.

    • @u0aol1
      @u0aol1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Hue Man Shoot a nuclear armed plane and watch the fireworks.

    • @KappaKiller108
      @KappaKiller108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@u0aol1 nuclear bombs aren't gasoline, they don't just exploded If you shoot them

    • @mininudoalem7950
      @mininudoalem7950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@u0aol1 I'm 99% sure that's not how it works, all you would end up with is a bunch of pulverized uranium and a huge problem

    • @urdnotwrex6969
      @urdnotwrex6969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ´´most advanced´´ malfunction on most advanced missile not BLOW UP. The easiest part on MOST ADVANCED weapon. . .If it was tracking malfunction OK, but BLOW UP?

  • @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
    @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +941

    In Soviet Russia missile technology comes to you!

    • @drxsasquach
      @drxsasquach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nice

    • @barrybadass3481
      @barrybadass3481 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But now only armed ones.

    • @Deutsche_1
      @Deutsche_1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @David Just like america at this moment, a shithole where nobody wants to be in (stop throwing mud at things you know so little about)

    • @Goprof150
      @Goprof150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Billybob858 You say that until you move to Russia

    • @jonwalker4351
      @jonwalker4351 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good one

  • @mr.nozzles9121
    @mr.nozzles9121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +566

    Steals a missile, serves 3 years. Sells a bag of weed, serves 20 years. Seems legit.

    • @GHustle4
      @GHustle4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Sounds like america!

    • @smitha775
      @smitha775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      White guy sells the missile the black guy sells the weed...

    • @GHustle4
      @GHustle4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Razor2112 actually white guy sell weed and missiles black guys just get punished more severely...

    • @cipher88101
      @cipher88101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Point sailed right over your head.

    • @nature337
      @nature337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GHustle4 wasnt he west German?

  • @lycossurfer8851
    @lycossurfer8851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    "It followed me home mom, can we keep it?"

  • @tommyhammel
    @tommyhammel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +481

    I still can’t believe they had these missiles but they didn’t have color tv

    • @hondaservicecenter
      @hondaservicecenter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      🤣

    • @tyskbulle
      @tyskbulle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      1950s TV was just a fad, will be gone in a few years...

    • @chrismechanic2000
      @chrismechanic2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Colour TVs don't bring down enemy aircraft, there's the reason.

    • @muffy469
      @muffy469 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      They focused their money onto important developments like military technology. They couldn't afford to make (kinda useless) stuff because they didn't have leftover money to do so.

    • @ratnoh
      @ratnoh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      to be fair, the military got a bunch of funding

  • @brycepeterson1969
    @brycepeterson1969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Everyone gangsta until the sidewinder gets stuck

  • @sonictheedgehog5360
    @sonictheedgehog5360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    Those prison sentences seem very small for how much info they leaked

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Probably as the result of plea deals that implicated others.

    • @sylv9570
      @sylv9570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      *AHEM* soviet pressure

    • @patrickkeyes6682
      @patrickkeyes6682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah I’d be a little mad if I found out someone leaked thousands of pages of classified info for years. Ten years was way too easy of a sentence

    • @aholegunner
      @aholegunner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Those guys shouldve been executed and I am typically against the death penalty.

    • @macjonte
      @macjonte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Prison time in Sweden is short compared to many other countries. And prisoners are released after 2/3 of the time. If doing bad during the rest 1/3 you’re quickly behind bars again.
      The system is mostly designed for adapting people back to life in society, not keeping people away from society.
      It has flaws.
      /Swede

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    Air Force vet here: Say "Aim 9", not "A-I-M 9". I've never once heard it pronounced that way until today.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm not a get but !e neither. isn't it the x model now?

    • @ronnknnock5435
      @ronnknnock5435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@joshschneider9766 Its the X in AIM-9X that makes the technology unknown to the east because it explodes with out making contact! HA!

    • @ZenZaBill
      @ZenZaBill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same here... never heard aye - eye - M - nine. Only AIM-9.

    • @mikecimerian6913
      @mikecimerian6913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fox Two. o7

    • @Fister_of_Muppets
      @Fister_of_Muppets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here

  • @cavemanballistics6338
    @cavemanballistics6338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    MY father worked for SPERRY Corp in the 1950s he was a guidance control engineer, He helped build the AIM9. Then in 1962 he went to work for NASA all the way through till 1972.

  • @ryancrazy1
    @ryancrazy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    1:47 isn't that an F104?
    TO be FAIR , the US did send F-104s to Taiwan, dismantled in C-124s, and that video IS probably those F-104s being reassembled in Taiwan. They didn't see combat, they just flew up and down the coast at Mach 2, just to make the Chinese wonder WTF was going so fast...

    • @a50204b123
      @a50204b123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      In fact, Taiwan's F-104 did see combat and score one, probably two kills.
      1967, one RF-104G belong to 12th Reconnaissance
      Squadron was doing its job along china's coastline.
      Suddenly, two Migs show up on the radar, and RF-104G starts heading back to Taiwan.
      As the RF-104G trying to escape from the Mig-19, four F-104G belong to 8th Combat
      Squadron comes to rescue.
      Two kills were scored by the F-104G numbered 4347 and 4344, using AIM-9 sidewinder.

    • @gothicaholic
      @gothicaholic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Check out his last 6 videos regarding jets... he shows completely different jets than the ones he is talking about.
      Also he is talking about modifying sabres and shows footage of a mig 19.

    • @gothicaholic
      @gothicaholic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Felix Chang they did had starfighters but they have nothing to do with the video and the incident he is talking about.

    • @joeyjamison5772
      @joeyjamison5772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So you noticed that too.

    • @user-hb8be5wb4q
      @user-hb8be5wb4q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The F104 stories may be true, no argument here. But, Taiwan did have an alert pad with at least 2 aircraft loaded for war. I spent some time as a weapons specialist on the pad in the spring of 1964. I slept on a top bunk when on the pad, and that claxon horn must have been near my head. That thing is very loud! And all I remember the Taiwanese having was F105 Thunderchief aircraft.

  • @ultimatedijon3247
    @ultimatedijon3247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Loving the uploads recently! You're pumping them out and the quality is better than ever! Keep it up!!

  • @MichaelColeman
    @MichaelColeman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I'm astounded at the extremely lenient sentences these spies received.

    • @hthornburg6029
      @hthornburg6029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah no kidding

    • @voixdelaraison593
      @voixdelaraison593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Michael Coleman
      They must have been Treasonous Trump associates.

    • @luvr381
      @luvr381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      There are many people in the US who have served longer sentences for stealing $100 or less.

    • @thesauciestboss4039
      @thesauciestboss4039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Voix de la raison orange man bad

    • @duudsuufd
      @duudsuufd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spying is actually a good thing. It prevents that one country can become the only superpower.

  • @teuth
    @teuth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
    In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
    The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

    • @infinidominion
      @infinidominion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's guided by a meme

    • @Xander_Zimmermann
      @Xander_Zimmermann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      They always say "where is missile?" But never "how is missile?"😥

    • @marbleman52
      @marbleman52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Adrian....Well done...!! It reminds me of something that Spock would come up with..!!

    • @harpreetuppal1179
      @harpreetuppal1179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ok got it !

    • @josephburchanowski4636
      @josephburchanowski4636 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Where is the source of this copy pasta? I have seen it posted several times.

  • @lexxynubbers
    @lexxynubbers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Intellectual theft? Sounds more like a gift to me.

    • @peekaboopeekaboo1165
      @peekaboopeekaboo1165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Raj Strong Bullshit

    • @peekaboopeekaboo1165
      @peekaboopeekaboo1165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DD has anti Chinese agenda. Refusing to only call the two States as the PROC and ROC (eg. "China" & "Taiwan").
      Using Japanese occupation's name of "Amoy" & "Matzu".
      Edited

    • @youfailedthevibecheck1057
      @youfailedthevibecheck1057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      peekaboo peekaboo somebody doesn’t have a sense of humor.. sheesh

    • @crashovride02
      @crashovride02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, they didn't steal anything. It was their plane and we left it there for them. I hate when people think others always steal from us. Like we won't do the same.

    • @oomahuntressprotectress848
      @oomahuntressprotectress848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      xcatly! and we're now in the process of rebringingback all Coca Cola Corporation products and product lines, all Pepsi Co products and product lines, and soon to be your not-present Dr Pepper Company products and product lines from all foreign countries worldwide globally!!
      anti-American propaganda will cease and desist or else!

  • @gravy1219
    @gravy1219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel "unxploded" missiles would actually be a good invention for war, Most pilots would assume the warhead malfunctioned and head back to land for repairs, with GPS technology being what it is you could time it perfect to maximise damage.

    • @theorangeofallahpbuh1840
      @theorangeofallahpbuh1840 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps, but for this to be effective, the enemy must be able to know they have been impaled, while also being damaged enough that they can’t fight back and shoot down their attacker. The signal for the impaler missile also needs to be fairly strong so that it can’t be lost or jammed easily.

  • @Saginaw72
    @Saginaw72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The sentences handed out in this video for espionage are jaw droppingly lenient.
    This new series is terrific and informative. Looking forward to future posts.

  • @bastiaan0741
    @bastiaan0741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    That pilot had a guardian angel.

    • @ronnknnock5435
      @ronnknnock5435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Id say luck because Atheism is communist doctrine!

    • @Himikz
      @Himikz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kindred ultimate on top (:

    • @pawelkaluza123
      @pawelkaluza123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllplllllllllllllllllllllllllllpllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllp

    • @hansgruber3397
      @hansgruber3397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Luck, you mean Luck

    • @BabySkinCondom
      @BabySkinCondom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "AtHeIsM iS cOmMuNiSt DoCtRiNe!" and other retarded things religious boomers say

  • @zackschilling4376
    @zackschilling4376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Says: Sabre
    Shows: propeller driven plane

    • @SteelHorseRider74
      @SteelHorseRider74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Zack Schilling - aren't propeller blades like sabres, cutting through the air... ^_^

    • @Len1977gt
      @Len1977gt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you read the description?

    • @ItsMeMattCarter
      @ItsMeMattCarter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Len1977gt Yeah its a cop out for being lazy and inaccurate like on his other channels.

    • @sid2112
      @sid2112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stryker! Your too low! It's your call Styker! Your call! Your call... your call...

  • @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts
    @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    A.k.a. next up on "I Shouldn't Be Alive"

    • @solomonarbc
      @solomonarbc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "How an AIM-9 defected to Communist China."

    • @seand.g423
      @seand.g423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@solomonarbc probably not _quite_ that bad...
      More likely a fall guy so that "unreliable Western warhead" could remain an oxymoron...

  • @JL-cn1qi
    @JL-cn1qi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Those were some random ass background images.

  • @Vikingdescendent
    @Vikingdescendent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    But they still drove the Lada! They should have reversed engineered western cars.

    • @zaccabral8251
      @zaccabral8251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The lada was reverse engineered lol

    • @keithjennings6187
      @keithjennings6187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The Lada is a copy of an early 50's Fiat. Fiat sold the Russians a copy of the plans and a whole factory, and helped them move it from Italy.

    • @kattapp
      @kattapp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what the Chinese learnt

    • @codmeterman
      @codmeterman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Underrated comment.

    • @4450krank
      @4450krank 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What do you mean "drove" they legit still make that same old one today XD

  • @porridgeenjoyer
    @porridgeenjoyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Who else loves this guy's voice

    • @amig-2143
      @amig-2143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’d be me

    • @andie_pants
      @andie_pants 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely. It's so distinctive.

    • @porridgeenjoyer
      @porridgeenjoyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amig-2143 ✌️

    • @klimke22
      @klimke22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yeah his voice gives me that intense strong ww2 allied docuseries kinda vibe

    • @nunobarros3629
      @nunobarros3629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reminds me of Daffy Duck.

  • @banba317
    @banba317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    When you know, but can't prove you have a spy, you just kill him.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      At the very least they should have restricted his access and barred him from any positions invovling access to sensitive information on grounds of suspicion alone.

    • @sundoga4961
      @sundoga4961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SoloRenegade That's too likely to initiate a "witch hunt" mentality inside your own organizations, and that can be crippling. Plus, if you do that you will never catch him - either he will bug out from fear you already have enough information, or he will shut down his operation and all you'll have is suspicions...which having never been proven, will falter, and sooner or later he'll be promoted or transferred to something sensitive again.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sundoga4961You're wrong. My plan would not to be to fire anyone a random person is paranoid about. Rather, only those people who've come under serious investigation more than once under suspicion of legit espionage acts. the amount of information he leaked over 60yrs merely because he was unchecked is outrageous. And I wouldn't be "looking" for people to investigate without cause either. But I can recognize a security risk when i see one. There was no good achieved by letting him leak so much information for so long. And you can easily place a lifelong hiring/promotion ban on an individual in positions in which gov secrets are involved. Whenever he's up for a promotion or hiring into such a position, he would be flagged. All other nonsensitive positions he'd still be eligible for. You can classify a person as a risk to security with regards to classified materials without finding them guilty. People have been denied military/gov clearances for less all the time.

    • @sundoga4961
      @sundoga4961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SoloRenegade Yes, but you'll find that those people were generally denied a high security clearance on application, not after a long period of possessing one. The exceptions are situations where the person themselves or their intimates have done something that causes a reassessment, like joining a radical organization or being involved in poorly chosen activities.
      A relatively high-ranking military person? De-rating their security clearance is executing their career. Sure, a Colonel involved in advertising and public relations has little need for a high clearance...until he does, in order to massage the loss of a new, high-tech and classified weapon system and ease the press interest in why you're sending an entire division to recover one plane. In a very real way there are no "nonsensitive " positions.
      If you don't have enough information to act against a suspect, he remains just a suspect and you could be dead wrong.

    • @IudiciumInfernalum
      @IudiciumInfernalum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Suicide them. You wouldn't want to get bad PR from your own side.

  • @maiaemmett2399
    @maiaemmett2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Absolute legend just straight up picking up a missile and wheelbarrowing it to a waiting car and causally driving off with it like you have to admit like that's incredibly ballsy.

  • @hoofitmoore1726
    @hoofitmoore1726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Too Bad it didn’t explode while they were taking it apart for reverse engineering!

    • @grahambird1570
      @grahambird1570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pity it didn't !!!!

    • @tyree9055
      @tyree9055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Demolition and munition experts won't find it too hard to get into something like that. It's dangerous, but not trying to get into boobytrapped bombs n stuff. 🙄

  • @chasewaldschmidt494
    @chasewaldschmidt494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    It blows my mind how little jail time these spies get

    • @solomonarbc
      @solomonarbc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Get a few millions in offshore accounts - invest 3 years in prison time. Economics 101.

    • @Vikingdescendent
      @Vikingdescendent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Double agents?

    • @ONEIL311
      @ONEIL311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Vikingdescendent that or they had information about the soviets as a backup plan so they could trade it for freedom. Probably details of the Soviet missile program and ways to get in and out of West Berlin/Germany.

    • @lebensraummetal
      @lebensraummetal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ONEIL311 More like communists were already embedding themselves in the mechanisms of the west, using subterfuge to get what they want over time. Remember the unsealed 1990s KGB files vindicated McCarthy's "witch hunt." Still didnt prevent the damage from decades of communist sympathizers publicly spreading propaganda to make him look like a crazy person for catching on to their tricks.

    • @grahambird1570
      @grahambird1570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Iv'e seen 'Shop lifters' get Heavier penalties !!!!

  • @gutterdrums7509
    @gutterdrums7509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The Dark MC has a dooope voice. In fact, his voice was just as important as his content in be becoming a HUGE fan! Keep up the great work brother!

  • @thomaslohr2864
    @thomaslohr2864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ah, the 1960s, when you could still ship missiles per mail - good old days

  • @angeldelarosa7975
    @angeldelarosa7975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    *Missile warning*
    " I'm done for!"
    *thunk*

    • @teemu3981
      @teemu3981 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sidewinder don't give missile warnings.

    • @snikrepak
      @snikrepak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's always made me wonder, how does a unit so small, look, see, target, and follow, all with one cell of fuel, how would the other pilot know his craft is locked on?

    • @teemu3981
      @teemu3981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@snikrepak Must be illuminati

    • @series1054
      @series1054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@snikrepak sensor arrays and radar.

  • @JimSmithInChiapas
    @JimSmithInChiapas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    0:40 _"[The Soviets, ] not content with their initial intellectual theft"_ What nerve they had, reverse-engineering a missile that one of our allies fired at one of their allies! /sarc

  • @JoCronje129
    @JoCronje129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the amount of material you come out with Dark Docs

  • @Maverick626
    @Maverick626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    i almost suffered a stroke at watching an f-14 cockpit as a 50s era fighter footage xD

  • @manicmechanic448
    @manicmechanic448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My papaw was on the navy ground team that tested the first gen sidewinders back in the mid/early 50s. He fitted old corsairs and hellcats with radio control systems and flares on the wing tips for a heat signature. Apparently those things will fly with only half a wing.

  • @ciscourquidez9254
    @ciscourquidez9254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dark Docs is my new favorite "go to" channel! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! 💪😉👍

  • @globalautobahn1132
    @globalautobahn1132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    “I need a missile!” “Missile wery hard to get” “Well you better try wery hard to get me one, got me comrade!”

  • @n3onkatman
    @n3onkatman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Last time I was this early Helgen was still around

    • @jasonarcher7268
      @jasonarcher7268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Way back before that arrow in the knee ended my adventuring

    • @infinidominion
      @infinidominion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Quite early indeed

  • @Nommenblue
    @Nommenblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    The aircraft in the video playing while you stated that, "the U.S. armed the the Republic of China with North American F-86 Sabres" is a Lockeed F-104 Star Fighter.

    • @Len1977gt
      @Len1977gt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Did you read the description?

    • @miltonb2811
      @miltonb2811 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found funnier when they showed a MiG-19/J-6 while were talking about the American assistance in 2:55. 😄

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      closest stock footage he could find

  • @sanfordgruber6130
    @sanfordgruber6130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I need something to watch I can always count on Dark docs

  • @u0aol1
    @u0aol1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You fire a missile into my plane, you can be damn sure I'm keeping it.

  • @GN77340
    @GN77340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love dark docs been a fan for years always something new to listen too

    • @n3onkatman
      @n3onkatman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yo forgo th t

    • @GrandDaddyCough
      @GrandDaddyCough 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true, their last video was 2 days ago

  • @12LoLproductions
    @12LoLproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine being the pilot thinking it would explode at any moment on your flight back to base

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating story, and one I'd never heard! Thanks.

  • @petepatton7496
    @petepatton7496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting documentary, very surprised there are such high quality videos free on TH-cam

  • @Francois_Dupont
    @Francois_Dupont 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    -they are spying on us because the update are the same as ours!
    -how do you know that?
    .....

  • @TheUnatuber
    @TheUnatuber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I just *knew* there was going to be at least one "Tribesman" involved!

    • @myopicthunder
      @myopicthunder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stig Wennerstrom not a very tribal name.

  • @cwf081166
    @cwf081166 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dark Docs is great about using footage that do not have anything to do with their actual subject matter, but then again half the documentaries on TH-cam is great about that.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew of both of these incidents though I lacked details on the second one. So thanks for the additional information.
    From what I read the part of the fuselage they first missile struck was for the aircraft's tailpipe and was partially damaged by the hot exhaust from the engine.
    Imagine being the pilot flying back with that jammed in his aircraft. Obviously his knowledge of what had happened was limited. But the aircraft's flight characteristics must have been effected so he would have been aware something was going on. Plus he would have felt the hit. I bet he had the smoothest landing ever.

  • @RainCity3rd
    @RainCity3rd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very surprising how little time one gets for pretty important theft /spying.

  • @nicobings2674
    @nicobings2674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Chines got f86 saber's from the USA.
    Shows a F-104 Starfighter. XD

    • @SekritKomrade
      @SekritKomrade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Its literally the only thing wrong w these Docs. Amazing narration, content, quality, nails it.
      but for the aircraft buffs out there, its distracting to see the wrong equipment when being spoken about.

    • @jarrod1766
      @jarrod1766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SekritKomrade Correct this seems lazy on their part also I think it misleads the viewer if they aren't knowledgable. They discuss a Mig-17 and show a Mig 21, if you don't know what these aircraft are that's going to give you the wrong idea.

    • @DasJager13
      @DasJager13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Half the footage of fighter jets were from the cockpit of a F14.

    • @ryancrazy1
      @ryancrazy1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in fact.... pretty sure i didn't see an F-86 the entire video....

    • @paulsmith5742
      @paulsmith5742 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      or how about what looks like the T-28's

  • @wazza-au
    @wazza-au 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, this was an excellent video!

  • @rickysmith2126
    @rickysmith2126 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    far out this stuff is always such great content what ive been looking for my whole life. thoughly enjoy the content keep it comin.

  • @klutzkerman1664
    @klutzkerman1664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I love how well-researched and narrated these are! I can't get past the wrong planes being displayed though, I may have to simply listen instead of watch :D

    • @Nommenblue
      @Nommenblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same. Great channel and content, but lots of technical inaccuracies.

    • @ImWearingPantsNow
      @ImWearingPantsNow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I often just listen while I drive. I rarely notice issues like that. I'm not driving right now, and it's all I can see. Oh well, still entertaining.

    • @brianchan8
      @brianchan8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ImWearingPantsNow i can’t even tell lol

  • @papamike4215
    @papamike4215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Talking about MiG 15 and 17’s showing pictures of MiG 21’s. I don’t think they had a single aircraft they were talking about in any picture. Subject interesting but the video terrible.

    • @charlesradford3811
      @charlesradford3811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree completely. Talking about an F-86 while showing an F-104 is just dumb.

    • @HomelessCows
      @HomelessCows 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And then shows an F-14 RIO firing a Sparrow while talking about F-86's firing Sidewinders.

    • @spanieaj
      @spanieaj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. It was very distracting.

    • @lr21643
      @lr21643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have to wonder what else they got wrong.

    • @miltonb2811
      @miltonb2811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought that I was the only one annoyed by the 'Chinese Tu-22 Blinders'. ;)

  • @jerrodcorey25
    @jerrodcorey25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:02
    Hello Maverick's work office. Nice Tomcat cockpit and launch button in the RIO seat

  • @williamrichardson3672
    @williamrichardson3672 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aside from the random footage of random aircraft and missiles, this is pretty good.

  • @nateflint1334
    @nateflint1334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    would be interesting if the missile was meant to be unexploded, right until it arrived in some important russiab building, where it was detonated remotely

    • @ZaHandle
      @ZaHandle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Time fuse would’ve been more appropriate

  • @Chuck_Hooks
    @Chuck_Hooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Russia and China are nowhere without US and Western tech to copy and reverse engineer.

    • @euanwhite8716
      @euanwhite8716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just gonna ignore the fact the west reverse engineered the hound?

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@euanwhite8716 How did Concordski work out?

    • @mattsmith5421
      @mattsmith5421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Chuck_Hooks same way as Concorde lol

    • @Chuck_Hooks
      @Chuck_Hooks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mattsmith5421 Concorde had a 31 year history of no crashes. The one crash it did have was caused by a piece of metal left on the runway by another aircraft.
      What was Concordski's record again?

    • @bcubed72
      @bcubed72 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comrade Regus Patoff is greatest inventor of glorious socialist motherland!

  • @zulucain
    @zulucain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That mailing the missile parts and them being sent back should be a theme of a Kusturica movie :-D

  • @billferner6741
    @billferner6741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember when I was a boy, my father was working as a civilian in Neuburg German airforce base, it was a big discussion about how it was possible to smuggle out a 3 meter (6'6") long and 70 kilo (155pounds) heavy thingens out of a high security area.

  • @rtmsound1877
    @rtmsound1877 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Some plans for the Sidewinder were stolen from China Lakes Naval Weapons Testing Center in California. I don't remember what year this was.

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    USA (sarcastically): GREAT SHOT KID THAT WAS ONE IN A MILLION!
    Maniacal Chinese and Russian Laughter.

  • @Tottleminerftw
    @Tottleminerftw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It never cease to amaze me the ability of the ussr to copy other technology's

    • @dextermorgan1
      @dextermorgan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      China should absolutely blow your mind then. They steal EVERYTHING.

  • @Robbini0
    @Robbini0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 'And signaled the protusion with a red piece of fabric as required by law' was a very interesting touch

  • @K1W1fly
    @K1W1fly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A whole story about missiles on an F86 Sabre, without once using footage of any Sabre!

  • @tahustvedt
    @tahustvedt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    1:52 - F-104 Starfighter

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Barrett Haynes Taking a wild guess ..........
      Probably because they're incompetent? - I have no trust or confidence in this channel now.
      Some of the aircraft shown with the People's Republic of (Communist) China are MiG 19s or possibly even MiG 21s.
      Its questionable whether China had these at the time Mig15s & Mig 17s -sure ......... but that's not what's in the video.

    • @bastiaan0741
      @bastiaan0741 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember those. They had sharp wings, if you ever get the chance to inspect one.

    • @tac2oo7
      @tac2oo7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He states in the video description he may not always have footage of exact events, so he uses stock footage. Do a little research before speaking.

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Barrett Haynes Of *course* I know Jesus Christ personally ............He sends me a card every year.
      (It says you lousy godless pagan atheist you are *barred*)
      I write back just before Easter to say if that were true I'd look like a Tiger or something and then ask about his hang ups.

    • @Farweasel
      @Farweasel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tac2oo7 Hey genius. What he's doing is akin to talking about dogs and showing images of cats.
      If he's going to make the damn pontificating video *he* is the one upon whom falls the responsibility to do the effing research!

  • @MasterYota1
    @MasterYota1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the perfect speed for your voice!! Thanks for the great content.

  • @maxwellclark6992
    @maxwellclark6992 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, this is movie type sthuff, I can’t wait to see what your next masterpiece will be

  • @j0ckel617
    @j0ckel617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Why isn’t almost any picture coherent with what is narrated? There are starfighters shown when talking about sabres, sometimes even prop-planes, there are two stage long range surface to air missiles on screen when talking about the short range air to air sidewinders, there are two engined suchois shown when talking abot single engined mig 15s, I mean come on

    • @catfunt5583
      @catfunt5583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's because it's hard to find footage from way back then, and even harder to find footage that isn't copyrighted

    • @tomperkins5657
      @tomperkins5657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking of some footage of the Three Stooges representing Western Security and Homer Simpson as the missile exporter.

    • @drumboarder1
      @drumboarder1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomperkins5657 perfectly accurate

    • @garyllthegreat5491
      @garyllthegreat5491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      E

  • @strawberrybleach7715
    @strawberrybleach7715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They were waay too easy on those spies.
    Anything short of the firing squad is an unfair sentence

  • @centuriontwofivezeroone2794
    @centuriontwofivezeroone2794 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, I learned something new today. Great style and content, subscribing,,,

  • @Shipwright1918
    @Shipwright1918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm having trouble getting a parcel to a penpal, but these suckers mail a literal friggin' missile with no problem, unbelievable!

  • @pylon500
    @pylon500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Although obviously hard to find, it's still a pity that 90% of the video footage in this is irrelevant to the story :(

  • @azazzelx
    @azazzelx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How is it an intellectual theft when it was literally flown and sent to you?!...minus the explosion thing...

    • @cat_in_a_sock1948
      @cat_in_a_sock1948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because communists are evil and steal things duh

    • @StCreed
      @StCreed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Locally, we have a law that says if someone mails you something or gives you something you didn't ask for, it becomes your property.
      This prevents the old scam of mailing people books they have to return at their own cost, or pay for.

  • @derrickgriswold7504
    @derrickgriswold7504 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your work and narration , keep it up

  • @scorpygixxer
    @scorpygixxer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating. Always love your stuff.

  • @alexduke5402
    @alexduke5402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Last time I was this early Maxwell hadn't suicided yet

    • @joelmartin2549
      @joelmartin2549 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did she already?

    • @alexduke5402
      @alexduke5402 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joelmartin2549 lol not yet but I think we all know what's coming

  • @redram5150
    @redram5150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Is it really intellectual theft when you attained the item in question when it was fired at you, trying to kill you?

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No I would say that one is finders keepers.

    • @sc1338
      @sc1338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stealing plans is

    • @redram5150
      @redram5150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sc1338 keeping the missile fired at you isn’t stealing plans

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best way to steal enemy technology? Walk in the base and take it.

  • @zacheryrobertson9811
    @zacheryrobertson9811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos

  • @nymalous3428
    @nymalous3428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This seemed like it lasted an hour. For some reason, it just felt like a full-length documentary. Very well done!

  • @MustyMouse
    @MustyMouse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine being mad that your enemies took the thing you shot at them and made their own

  • @okrajoe
    @okrajoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting piece of history.

  • @globalautobahn1132
    @globalautobahn1132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So this is how our Missiles defect? 🤔

    • @BBCharger5spd
      @BBCharger5spd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's ok... Our Aim-9 defected to Russia... a few years later we got a Mig-25 Foxbat

  • @Gloopular
    @Gloopular 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    U.S. security was pathetic that these clowns were just able to walk into an ammo dump and waltz away with a missile poking thru the car! Also penalties were ludicrously soft - pathetic !

    • @MrMontanaNights
      @MrMontanaNights 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Walter It was a West German airbase ( not American) with West German Army guards. The reason they got off lightly was they didn’t manage to steal the navigation unit, which was one of the most secret technologies on the missile. The theft was committed by people whom were not American so the US had little to do with the prosecution. An American caught doing that would probably get 20 to life.

  • @polvoradelrey2423
    @polvoradelrey2423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    -Dimitri, we have a job for you.
    -What's that?
    -We want you to start tinkering with this armed, undetonated, unknown, faulty enemy missile.
    -Great.

  • @johndo3930
    @johndo3930 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That gives an new meaning to the handle with care sticker on the mail lol....

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    China steals a half a trillion in technology every year from the U.S.A, there are 500,000 students alone in American colleges

    • @maxmagnus777
      @maxmagnus777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      how are those 2 connected?

    • @akacurmurdar1
      @akacurmurdar1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxmagnus777 How do spies and their networks work?

    • @maxmagnus777
      @maxmagnus777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@akacurmurdar1 mostly by paying off those that have power to give you secrets. I kind of doubt that universities have any secrets to give. They have couple of extremely interesting courses. Those same courses are usually taken by 5 smart people and later teach at domestic universities. Thus you have transfer of knowledge. That is how Africa obtained knowledge fro Europe from 1950's to 1990 in my country. There is no need for 500 000 students.

  • @jonnywatts2970
    @jonnywatts2970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Come on Sweden! I sentence you to 20 years...wink wink....only 10 actually. WEAK!

    • @BigJon410
      @BigJon410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the US it is always a life sentence. That way we always have inventory for prisoner exchanges years latter.

    • @jonnywatts2970
      @jonnywatts2970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigJon410 except life means 25 years...

  • @consciousobjector7315
    @consciousobjector7315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great footage of unrelated aircraft.

  • @YeIIow13
    @YeIIow13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What music did you use for this doc? Sounds a lot like something right out of Ace Combat. Love the channel, btw. Keep it up!

  • @klimke22
    @klimke22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    there is 1 21st century question I have for the cpp and that is do you really think that 1 island is worth the outbreak of ww3 and as much as I think they arnt that stupid to answer yes, I am questioning their intelligence more and more these days so I'm less and less sure in every day that passes I'm leaning more and more towards a nuclear war being imminent

  • @dmitrikaramazov4982
    @dmitrikaramazov4982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    AKA
    That one time the Communists got USA tech that didn't involve an Israeli

  • @TrevorNet
    @TrevorNet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feels good seeing other people’s planes go boom without a parachute in the sky.

  • @xfhulurf6774
    @xfhulurf6774 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you guys

  • @chico20m
    @chico20m 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you can't have confidence on security services but mail services are the best.