I have attempted them in training with less than stellar results.... but I think for now I'll stick to his combo setups and standard edgeguard. That's what I'm able to do best.
I don’t know how you do it, but you seem to always find a new joker-related topic to talk about. While I do agree with most of the video, there are a few points I’m surprised you didn’t touch on. One of those was u-throw usage on stages with platforms. U/throw allows for some fantastic setups using uair dragdowns, so that immediately gives a boost to stages like smashville and battlefield. One other thing that would’ve been worth talking about is the blastzone sizes. I know this video specifically was more focused on joker an his toolkit and how stages affect that, but the blastzone sizes still make a big deal due to how limited his recovery is. Stages with smaller blastzones like smashville allow for more early gimps with bair and down guns. But with the way this video was structured, I can defiantly see why you didn’t talk about these. Overall, another solid video! (Also those cinematics were soooo clean, I gotta learn how to do that lol)
yea idk if i mentioned up throw specifically but i think i mentioned that platforms affect dragdown setups for sure! thanks for watching and for your input! glad u enjoyed! :)
Dude imagine finding a channel that seems dedicated to improving the meta of your main... I hope my rivals got their shitting pants on. Definitely subbed, you deserve it and thank you!
@@CozyyPR Yeah I will do! Watched a few vids gonna practice what is here tomorrow and watch more vids from you as well. I can do dragdowns but wishing I was more consistent, this helps me out! My neutral is very strong my combos can be a lot better, while it seems you've mastered combos. Also your edgeguards are sick will certainly try them out. I tend to stick with down guns or counter if Arsene is in town, but your guides provide many mixups!
yea i have many different guides such as combos and neutral, advantage, disadvantage, guns, and killing without arsene! hopefully those help u out and all the others as well :)
@@CozyyPR Cheers man! Seen them going through the list, it's late for me hence I'll watch them all tomorrow. Haven't looked at killing without Arsene yet but I always know when I see the 'Arsene Main' online 😂
Tbh I almost always ban lylat as joker if there’s a chance I think the opponent will pick lylat. The low plats plus the slants mean that projectiles almost never hit, ledgetrapping is harder, and landing is also worse. Not to mention not being able to see when edgeguarding, and the fact that teching on lylat can have such whack timing due to the weird shape of the stage. Imo lylat is joker’s worst stage, and I pretty much just despise the stage in general.
I can definitely see it, being able to have so many different play styles with the character whichever style you play may or may not prefer certain stages, ps2 does seem like a good pick for pretty much anyone if you like space, smaller stages like smashville are better for people who want to just go ham fight up close, and of course playing against other characters will affect your stage pick (examples being: Don't pick kalos against falcon, don't pick battlefield against puff [learned that the hard way], and dont pick yoshis story against mario EVER {is it story or island? I never remember}), I think this makes perfect sense, as a player you need to know which stages you're most comfortable on and which ones make you feel like you're in a coffin, most people would probably say: "Anythings good? well ok then." then probably pick a stage that they could be uncomfortable on or that a certain character takes more advantage in, its definitely one of those things as a Joker player you need to make note of before jumping into it without thinking.
This piano in behind is the best thing on the video. Sorry but piano intensifies. But I loved the video too. Too Cool. In particular I loved some techs that I saw in it that I'll lab to let my Joker the best of my state/country(maybe). XD
great view on the stages my guy! id like to add an extra note, hazards off smashville can be annoying with dragdown loops since the platforms in the middle and is quite huge, but usually its hazards are on so this one won't matter too much
You’re by far the best Joker guide on TH-cam. I love your content, and I have just 1 question: how should I practice landing fair 1. I can land it from a shorthop easily, but not from much else. Thanks!
My faves are for sure PS2 and T&C. The large space means keeping distance with guns and eiha are a lot easier. Also means combo game is mostly unempeded, but the platforms can help with certain extensions. Triplats makes landing with downguns a lot worse so I tend to avoid them as well
so would you say it depends on how precise you can be, as side b getting caught is less of a problem you can’t get around rather than precision of when to use it and where
for sure side B’s arent a problem if u dont do them under a platform, but having a stage hinder and affect where and when u can do certain moves, seems like a questionable pick at times. but triplats obv have advantages as i said in the vid! :)
TooCozy also, do you think joker should be banning kalos more often than not? the things he gets off of them such as wall techs and jumps are good but at the same time yoshis gives the exact same thing while also having plats for easy extensions
@@athena1906 well kalos walls go a bit further down so u have a little bit more room vertically but its really up to u. i dont really ban or counterpick kalos ever, i dont mind it tbh
ngl man, you've tipped me off to how useful gun dashing can be, but i deadass had no idea you could completely clear the underside of some stages with it lmao
Something I like about Joker is not many people talk about him, except if they're talking about MKLeo. So, it feels he's not overrated. I don't main him just because he's good, but because he looks a-like, y'know?
you have to either attack cancel (AC) or Reverse Aerial Rush (RAR). they are executed differently but both provide the same results. check out this video which covers both of these methods! th-cam.com/video/i29Z1_gLB80/w-d-xo.html hope this helps :)
You and this channel are truly a blessing to all Joker mains
lol i appreciate that! make sure to join my server :)
@YazY33T yt same
came for joker's best stages, learned that he can travel under stage
lol 😂 u learn something new everyday
I have attempted them in training with less than stellar results.... but I think for now I'll stick to his combo setups and standard edgeguard. That's what I'm able to do best.
I don’t know how you do it, but you seem to always find a new joker-related topic to talk about. While I do agree with most of the video, there are a few points I’m surprised you didn’t touch on. One of those was u-throw usage on stages with platforms. U/throw allows for some fantastic setups using uair dragdowns, so that immediately gives a boost to stages like smashville and battlefield. One other thing that would’ve been worth talking about is the blastzone sizes. I know this video specifically was more focused on joker an his toolkit and how stages affect that, but the blastzone sizes still make a big deal due to how limited his recovery is. Stages with smaller blastzones like smashville allow for more early gimps with bair and down guns. But with the way this video was structured, I can defiantly see why you didn’t talk about these. Overall, another solid video! (Also those cinematics were soooo clean, I gotta learn how to do that lol)
yea idk if i mentioned up throw specifically but i think i mentioned that platforms affect dragdown setups for sure! thanks for watching and for your input! glad u enjoyed! :)
Dude imagine finding a channel that seems dedicated to improving the meta of your main... I hope my rivals got their shitting pants on. Definitely subbed, you deserve it and thank you!
lmao they better get ready! appreciate ur support and join my server :)
@@CozyyPR Yeah I will do! Watched a few vids gonna practice what is here tomorrow and watch more vids from you as well. I can do dragdowns but wishing I was more consistent, this helps me out! My neutral is very strong my combos can be a lot better, while it seems you've mastered combos. Also your edgeguards are sick will certainly try them out. I tend to stick with down guns or counter if Arsene is in town, but your guides provide many mixups!
yea i have many different guides such as combos and neutral, advantage, disadvantage, guns, and killing without arsene! hopefully those help u out and all the others as well :)
@@CozyyPR Cheers man! Seen them going through the list, it's late for me hence I'll watch them all tomorrow. Haven't looked at killing without Arsene yet but I always know when I see the 'Arsene Main' online 😂
1:29 - That’s hella cool. I didn’t even know you could make it all the way around with joker without Arsene
the more u know 😂
yeah I didnt know that either, thanks homie
Tbh I almost always ban lylat as joker if there’s a chance I think the opponent will pick lylat. The low plats plus the slants mean that projectiles almost never hit, ledgetrapping is harder, and landing is also worse. Not to mention not being able to see when edgeguarding, and the fact that teching on lylat can have such whack timing due to the weird shape of the stage. Imo lylat is joker’s worst stage, and I pretty much just despise the stage in general.
i hate lylat lmaooo
why is this stage legal again?
I can definitely see it, being able to have so many different play styles with the character whichever style you play may or may not prefer certain stages, ps2 does seem like a good pick for pretty much anyone if you like space, smaller stages like smashville are better for people who want to just go ham fight up close, and of course playing against other characters will affect your stage pick (examples being: Don't pick kalos against falcon, don't pick battlefield against puff [learned that the hard way], and dont pick yoshis story against mario EVER {is it story or island? I never remember}), I think this makes perfect sense, as a player you need to know which stages you're most comfortable on and which ones make you feel like you're in a coffin, most people would probably say: "Anythings good? well ok then." then probably pick a stage that they could be uncomfortable on or that a certain character takes more advantage in, its definitely one of those things as a Joker player you need to make note of before jumping into it without thinking.
hey thx for the kind words! and absolutely, opponent’s characters play a huge role in counterpicking stages!
Love this channel, I was a fox main for all of ultimate and picked up joker about 2 weeks ago and I’ve learned so much from you
thats great to know! happy to know i can help, make sure to join my server :)
This piano in behind is the best thing on the video. Sorry but piano intensifies. But I loved the video too. Too Cool. In particular I loved some techs that I saw in it that I'll lab to let my Joker the best of my state/country(maybe). XD
What state? And country?
@@errrcc Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Im the second best Joker from my state and I dont use many techs. Im trying to improve them.
best joker youtuber no cap
i appreciate that G!
TooCozy ofc bro! Only good joker player is mkleo so there isn’t much content so thank you king joker (of TH-cam)😂
Thank you so much! Its nice to see someone giving out all these info for joker mains!
ur welcome! glad u enjoyed! :)
great view on the stages my guy! id like to add an extra note, hazards off smashville can be annoying with dragdown loops since the platforms in the middle and is quite huge, but usually its hazards are on so this one won't matter too much
Your guides actually helped me out, you deserve more subs :)
thank u for the kind words and support! join my server :)
We joker mains are blessed for having you in our lives.
thank u! i appreciate ur kind words so much!
You’re by far the best Joker guide on TH-cam. I love your content, and I have just 1 question: how should I practice landing fair 1. I can land it from a shorthop easily, but not from much else. Thanks!
its a lot easier from a shorthop, i have a Fair 1 Guide that u should check out tho. i think it explains it pretty good and hopefully it helps u! :)
We were all here first. This guy is gonna blow up on YT his videos are too good.
lmao hopefully 🤞🏽
My faves are for sure PS2 and T&C. The large space means keeping distance with guns and eiha are a lot easier. Also means combo game is mostly unempeded, but the platforms can help with certain extensions. Triplats makes landing with downguns a lot worse so I tend to avoid them as well
yessirr it all comes down to preference and matchups essentially! blastzones also play a role but i dont think its that significant imo
Realy cool video Thanks Cozy 💪
ur welcome! thank u for watching and supporting!
This is Very Informative and Helpful, this really helps a lot of Joker Mains. Keep it Up 👍
i appreciate the kind words and support! 🙌🏽
Another banger upload, keep up the good work Cozy!
appreciate u my guy! glad u enjoyed!
I always found PS2 to be my favorite stage thanks to Mkleo XD i seen how many hes killed on that stage
PS2 is really good for Joker for sure!
Great video as always
so would you say it depends on how precise you can be, as side b getting caught is less of a problem you can’t get around rather than precision of when to use it and where
for sure side B’s arent a problem if u dont do them under a platform, but having a stage hinder and affect where and when u can do certain moves, seems like a questionable pick at times. but triplats obv have advantages as i said in the vid! :)
TooCozy also, do you think joker should be banning kalos more often than not? the things he gets off of them such as wall techs and jumps are good but at the same time yoshis gives the exact same thing while also having plats for easy extensions
@@athena1906 well kalos walls go a bit further down so u have a little bit more room vertically but its really up to u. i dont really ban or counterpick kalos ever, i dont mind it tbh
@@athena1906 kalos isn't as nice but it depends on if you like the other stages if you wanna ban it
ngl man, you've tipped me off to how useful gun dashing can be, but i deadass had no idea you could completely clear the underside of some stages with it lmao
thank u for the kind words and support! im just happy to help 😄
Keep it up! Love this channel.
He has Arrived!
Thanks dude this was very helpful
thank u! glad u found it useful :)
Always been a fan of FD, glad it isn’t bad for Joker
FD might be my fav joker stage! 🤔
Very Interesting Video
this man opens up with the crossroads bar theme why you do me like that shit slaaaaps
loooool 😅
Something I like about Joker is not many people talk about him, except if they're talking about MKLeo. So, it feels he's not overrated. I don't main him just because he's good, but because he looks a-like, y'know?
I don’t even play smash anymore and i find this video useful 😂
lmaooo appreciate u watching brodie
Loved It!
Ayy the video is out!
yessirrr!
Those are my preferred stages as well
nice bro!
The channel we don't deserved, but the channel we needed....
Thank you for ur Amazing content
thank u so much for the kind words and support! :)
My opponents fly to high up when I do the Arsenne dair, Up smash. What should I do?
go for an aerial, i have a down air guide my G take a look, it’ll help u out! :)
I find it hard to bair immediately after a down throw
you have to either attack cancel (AC) or Reverse Aerial Rush (RAR). they are executed differently but both provide the same results. check out this video which covers both of these methods! th-cam.com/video/i29Z1_gLB80/w-d-xo.html hope this helps :)
TooCozy thank you!!
i always wondered what jokers best stages are so thank you but in my opinion i think FD is Jokers worst stage I prefer any other stage besides FD
interesting! 🤔
Nice
Ohya😐
Sooooooo baning lylat aigth
Nice