Myths, misfits & masks: Sana Amanat at TEDxTeen 2014
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- Sana Amanat has been in the publishing industry for the past nine years. Currently, she is an Editor at Marvel Entertainment, developing and managing creative content for the company's various publishing lines. Her notable credits include the critically-acclaimed Ultimate Comics Spider-Man a.k.a. Miles Morales, the first African-American and Latino Spiderman, as well as the breakout hit Captain Marvel, a series that changed the image of the female super hero. Most recently, she co-created the first solo series to feature a Muslim female super hero, Ms. Marvel, which gained worldwide media attention, sparking excitement and dialogue about identity and the Muslim-American struggle. She also serves as a Young Leaders Committee board member at Seeds of Peace, an organization that promotes the empowerment of youth in regions of conflict.
Ok here's this. If people like a character they don't care about their "Identifiers." Seriously just take a look at Superman, Batman, Spiderman, or The Avengers. We love them even if we don't see ourselves in these characters.
You can be the most incompetent person in the world, but as long as you're a Southeast Asian female Muslim and wield that like a sword you can never get fired from your job, what a great role model.
Is she incompetent or something? Last I heard, Ms. Marvel is the best selling digital comic ever.
Truth and "heard" are two separate things. Marvel comics is losing sales every month. It has been discovered they are dumping comics at "Ollies" to inflate sales. If the FCC worked then the management at Marvel would be in jail for fraud in earnings statements.
@@Easy-Eight how do you put a digital comic in an outlet? does marvel own ollies? if not why does that matter?
@@snowballeffect7812 U are confusing shipped with Sales. Digital is nothing compared to the physical sales.
@@harveydents my statement was specifically for digital. do you have a source you could cite me, though?
All these years of enjoying Marvel characters and stories and it turns out I was enjoying the wrong thing. Thank Allah for this all knowing guru for helping me appreciate what overt social commentary I really need shoved in comics in order for me to enjoy them. She’s going to make Marvel heaps of money I’m sure
I mean she already has made them money, so despite your sarcastic tone you're right, and she's almost certainly better at her job than you'd be, even if you'd like to pretend otherwise.
@@bluryder4186 She just got fired from Marvel and sales are in the gutter, she ruined Marvel comics, even if you'd like to pretend otherwise.
@@bluryder4186 and then she gets fired 😂😂
@@bluryder4186 I am pretty sure when she joined, Marvel was a massive cash-cow... now they are struggling to make a few dollars each film. So yes money was made when she joined - but they could have made a fek ton more if they just carried on doing what they were doing... because its popular and people liked it
Ahh this explains your ignorance … 🌚
Hi! Is there a transcript or closed captions available for this talk?
Muslim isn't a race, its a word used for people who follow Islam how come people dont know this.
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+Cristian Guerra (CLG) Yep, that's the problem with her approach at Marvel. Why do we need to see a "Muslim female superhero" instead of simply a female superhero? Was Catwoman or Wonder Woman a "Christian female superhero" or a "Jewish female superhero"? No, of course they weren't. That's what made comic book characters in works of fantasy to interesting - they transcended race and religion.
Isnt Daredevil Catholic?
@@twistedyogert Yes but that has been used as part of his character and often as a flaw to him. It emphasizes the crushing guilt of what he does. We aren't bashed over the head with his faith and it isn't used just as a means of inclusion for all the unrepresented catholic comic readers.
This answer so many questions, thanks!
Minorities have learned how to consume stories of people who they share no identifiers with. Its nice to have non-minorities consume our stories too to bridge the gap and connect us all.
Interesting video
Pakistani or Indians born abroad are usually disconnected from their roots, but the society keeps identifying them with their race, color, etc, therefore they use it
to their advantage.
Even Pakistanis in their own country are disconnected from their roots
This is not true at all in fact some of the best Muslims in the world are found in UK who are born in UK. It’s simply about money for her and pleasing the western society. Please don’t use her as a representation of western Asians or Muslims etc. thank you
Women never grow out of the childish desire to write oneself into their stories-
Wow
Whatever happened to a meritocracy where you have to make a comic, or several, that actually sell to be promoted to editor of the big two?
all you need is the right skin colour these days
Check box hiring.
@@rexs.5188 It was always the right skin color and it was white (also my color but I am blind for our history).
Over all, I really liked this talk. Although, Judaism , Christianity and Islam are all horribly violent religions. It's actually the moderate people of those beliefs who have warped there meaning into something more acceptable to modern society. People like to claim that Westboro aren't Christians but they follow what is in the bible a lot closer than most. In the west, we don't talk about christian atrocities that often but they are no less horrific that the ones Islam has committed.
B.I.N.G.O. On every point. Well said.
Religion isn't what is violent but the type of people behind it who use them as as an excuse to further their own political agenda. Warmongers, Hatemongers who chose to divide us based on our varied beliefs. Strip away religion from any conflict and you will see those greedily fighting for power be it land, social status, money, a better place in the afterlife. What better way to make a war seem righteous when they create an us vs them mentality.
Religion is not faith, religion is merely the outlet in which people try to sell their brand of faith. Faith is where we look within ourselves and to our community when all is lost.
btw I speak as someone who is agnostic.
LunaticReason
.... Christianity says you should kill gay people, and people who eat shell fish or work on the sabbath. It advocates violence against your own family, and has flimsy justifications for numerous wars. It's all right there in the bible.
Disthron Yes and Christianity like any other religion is controlled by said people. A belief doesn't kill its the people and the zealotry behind them that do. Religion is actually supposed to evolve with the times,we adopt what works and move on or that is how it used to work. What was written then made sense for those times but not now. The same goes for Christianity and any other religion when it was new on the block. Unfortunately we live in age of Science and logic and there is nothing to replace the current religion so where stuck with an outdated mode with ideas that are archaic.
LunaticReason
I don't know where you get the idea that religion is supposed to move with the times. As that has never been the case. Christianity was fine with natural philosophy up until the 14th century or so when if started making discoveries that contradicted it's teachings. At which point it had to be pulled kicking and screaming every inch of the way.
Did Sana reference the X-Men cartoon from the early 1990s. Wow, Sana is really old.
Can she make a video pointing out the tolerance that was the theme behind X-men? Professor X (Martin Luther King Jr.) and Magneto (Malcolm X) philosophically debating the correct way to deal with intolerance, teaching an entire generation of nerdy white boys to not care about skin color?
Reading these comments a year later I now understand why she got fired from marvel😂😂
She hasn't been fired
wow... i surprise heard marvel has a first muslim girl superhero. i hope sana amanat show this comic/positive message to all people of the world an islam is a peace and harmony religion
I agree, in my opinion, hatred or hostility towards Islam stems from ignorance. I hope Sana and G. Willow Wilson, do address this in the comics.
twistedyogert islam leads the world in terrorism. It's not peaceful
It's comics, not a sermon on Islam.
Not sorry.
Remember when comics were about adventure and morality and not identity politics? This woman is a propagandist.
You mean like miles morales spider man, immortal hulk, avengers, champions, etc. Pick up a comic. You tried
SaiyanQuad92 you made his point for him.
@@trentonmcclintock7836 I meant the comics I mentioned have adventure and morality
You mean like Captain America...Wonder women???? Both have strong identity politics
On what planet has this character ever resonated with the comic book audience, it simply doesn't sell
It sold 500k trades in 2018. You tried
@Esben M They sold. They aren't selling that well in single issues but they are sellikg in trades. Some.comics get reprints too. Immortal Hulk gets reprinted because ir sells oit.
@Esben M I guess flopplies arent selling as well as trades are. So what if I pick and choose. There are good comics out there imo from marvel. Digital is popular as well. I thought stores closed because of that. Marvel floppy sales could be better but it is what is. I'm not shilling.
It sold.. A lot.. I could only find ONE copy in Houston, Americas 4th largest city and possibly the most diverse.
@@ricardoramirez9510 And? So what? Its selling in another city then.
I hope they actually cast a girl with Pakistani heritage instead of trying to get someone to pass for being Pakistani if and when Kamala Khan is made into a movie or tv show
Or they should make it a CGI (computer, generated imagery) film. That way, Kamala could look exactly like she does in the comic, perhaps Sana should do her voice, she is from New-Jersey after all.
Yes, like Riz Ahmed in HBO's The Night Of. A real Muslim with Pakistani heritage that played exactly that in the show.
Gollum Sméagol I actually think that Sana Amanat (the woman in the video and the creator of Ms. Marvel) should play Kamala in a film, also Sana also looks a lot like Ms. Marvel.
Yes that's what I thought when I watched the video, that they do resemble each other. But I'm not sure Sana Amanat could be able to play Ms. Marvel. She's way older than 16 years old and I'm not sure about her acting skills. LOL!
Gollum Sméagol If they made Ms. Marvel an entirely computer generated film or T.V. series Sana could do her voice, In my opinion Kamala would be a complex character to make believable in live action because of her shape changing, And computer generated imagery is becoming more sophisticated and realistic, so even if Kamala was computer generated, it would be hard to tell.
Shes masks...and boosts too
I cant play make believe because I don’t see fictional characters who look like me
Something tells me that you don't have this problem...
This is the woman who was fired (allegedly) for misconduct?
Seems so.....
Came here from idea Chanel. Your doing amazing things, thank you :)
She has single-handedly ruined the comic book industry. So stunning and brave.
Such a strong woman!
I hope you were joking.
Ugh, someone get me a bucket STAT!
Why? did I miss anything?
I'm sure it's sarcasm
There are two things in this video that are suspect. The stereotype threat thing is a psychological theory, not physical science. Sana doesn't tell you that the same people who concocted that theory also came up with stereotype boost. As far as I can tell, Pakistani Americans work hard, succeed in business, attend college, and value
education, etc. Therefore they should be driven mostly by stereotype boost, which encompasses most of their lives, and not by the handful of bigots who might call them a "terrorist" at some point. Because they already know that they are doing well, and that they are not terrorists. 9/11 shouldn't be allowed to become an excuse for anyone's low self-esteem, especially when many Muslim Americans succeed at levels above average.
The second is the creeping politically correct agenda to make all forms of media as utilitarian and didactic as possible. The problem with that is that comic books are not
an instructional medium. For generations, they have provided entertainment, fun and escapism. Possibly as a side benefit, some readers have been inspired to become artists and writers, but that's not a main concern of the medium. So there's no reason
why comic books suddenly have to assume a main purpose of being "aspirational" and "empowering" when they never were before. Truthfully, that should be the job of
the parents who are allowing the kids to read the comic books. If you want to have
more female writers in comics, for example, then give your girls comic books to read.
Comics don't need to become the kind of art that's involved in conscious social engineering, as if they were serving some kind of state agenda or sociological purpose, like Soviet social realism. Kids know when what they are reading is overly preachy and boring, which was why comic books' attempts at telling kids not to smoke or use drugs utterly failed in the '70s and '80s. If art is to be challenging, as well as provide aesthetic pleasure, then it should at least skewer things that are "sacred", not reinforce them. So far, the only thing I see that is challenging about the character of the new Ms. Marvel is that she does not wear a hijab. Other than that,
she's just a teenage superhero, like Shadowcat or Jubilee, Gen 13 or the Teen Titans.
Manny Theiner Considering comic books have always been an intentional expression of hopes and fears, of right and wrong, with thorough explorations of justice, prejudice, hatred, love and politics I'm skeptical about the validity of your comment and your awareness or knowledge on comic books in general.
The guys who made heroes like Superman, Batman and especially Stan Lee who created characters that were intentionally drawn from his internal sensibilities I'm struggling to understand where you're coming from.
Yes comics were historically sold to youths and regarded as simple youth material. Yet, their creators were intentionally telling stories that reflected their contemporary environment, and deliberately shaped from their sensibilities, attitudes and politics of the world around them. It was not explicitly expected that a kid grasp all those concepts to be imbued with a sensibility about them.
And while direct 'forced' messaging has always been a feature of the graphic lit tradition not all of it was induced by collaboration with governmental agencies or other interests. Numerous comics dealt with issues far more intensive than smoking, free and clear of outside interests. Which is not to paint comics as some sort of monolith of noble artistic merit. There are exploitative narratives and a dearth of stories that do intend to be nothing and represent nothing more than discardable entertainment.
But returning to my main point. The most popular, durable, widely read comics have been ones that explicitly called to very relevant social topics without any greater agenda than fulfilling the concept of heroism, bravery and overcoming the limitations within society and our own humanity.
Batman is both a deliberate play on vigilantism and social responsibility but also a reflection of the grey complications of corruption (gangsters and crooked cops etc.) and Im not just talking about modern or movie batman but long before the camp 60s show.
Superman is a literal social agenda that has merely altered from a specifically American representative to be a more worldly concept but he retains the same precepts about humanity without government interference.
The X-Men are from day one rife with intentional parallels not the least bit hidden to civil rights and race relations. Spider Man, Daredevil, Hulk, Fantastic Four. All of them bold faced incarnations steeped in social context with no attempt to conceal or shadowy government or other entity agenda making them that way.
Even the characters you named at the end like Shadowcat, Gen 13, the fricking TEEN TITANS and fn Jubilee are literally born walking, fully intentional, not accident or government agenda expressions of social issues and concepts.
I mean you could not have picked a more perfect modern example of what I am talking about than the fricking Teen Titans bro, like have you ever watched that show, like even one episode?
And comic books are not agents of state agenda but they always were and have continued to be ever evolving elements of art which by the very categorization of art as art call into the personal and social context even if the audience engages it as escapism.
So your entire statement flies directly in the face of the historic nature of comic books and the modern continuation of that history.
Carl E. I believe you misunderstood most of my entire post. Yes I am very familiar with comics. Yes I am aware that the iconic characters that were created are the literal embodiments of the hopes and dreams of the creators, who often represent typical American values and concerns. Yes I am aware that comics have often tackled social issues in a real, non-didactic manner. Yes I am aware that comics are not usually agents of state agenda. (Except when Obama meets Spiderman..? And furthermore you can find plenty of internet articles about how some people are concerned that political correctness is ruining comics). Not sure why you think I wouldn't know any of that. None of that was my point in my post.
I made two points in my post: 1) Stereotype threat is irrelevant because, in the case of her particular ethnicity, stereotype boost should more than overwhelm it. She is playing deep identity politics here. 2) By doing so, she's revealing a preference for social engineering: We must imbue entertainment with a strong inculcatory message. The so-called "myth" she wants to unfold is not personal, it's an all-encompassing political way of thinking.
Let's look at what the previous generation of comics have given the world. Superman is the benevolent American superpower righting wrongs around the world with its might. (Nerdy Jewish dreams of becoming the Ubermensch aside). Batman is the philanthropic capitalist who justifies illegality behind the scenes. Spiderman is America doubting itself because of the boomers and Vietnam, but still plugging along and not giving up because with great power comes great responsibility. You'd think that's some great stuff, right?
But those are all values of previous generations. Today any Tumbrlist worth zer salt can take apart any of those icons as imperialist capitalist oppressive exploiters, tools of the kyriarchy, stooges of the One Percent who solve problems through violence and pay for all the superteam mansions (redistributionist synthpop band The Knife has a solution on "Shaking The Habitual": "by snatching a medium-sized mansion from an over-wealthy person you can give room to 25-34 homeless people"). I'm just commenting that Amanat's reliance on identity politics plays into that radical-leftist chic seeping across the Internet and into the media via such memes as, uh, pink kaffiyehs.
Dude who are you writing this too? There are not rules to what kind of comics you can publish. If Marvel wants to preach at people through their comics and they can stay in business while doing it then that's what comics are going to be. Stop trying to turn this in to a Soviet state where the free market has no say.
+film79 I guarantee you that the vast majority of people still buy comics because they're entertained, and not to make common cause with the "identity politics" of the characters. I'm not the Soviet state - the propagandizers are the ones slipping in the PC preachiness with the story.
Manny Theiner
It doesn't matter what the vast majority of people buy comic books for you still have the freedom to publish them any way you like. And you are like the Soviets because they are not trying to stop anyone from publishing what they disagree, yet you are.
This woman just doesn't get the comic book thing at all, yes it's cool to have good characters and diversity helps so they aren't all carbon copies of each other, but it's more than that. The action and all the great writing, people liked spiderman because he was punching green goblin and fighting doc ock, not just because he was a nerd.
She's what's wrong in comics and Disney's antics with Marvel IPs. That's why Venom and Spider-Man did so much better, because Sony created the movies and didn't give into identity politics like the M-She-U does.
She is amazing
😂
Thanks for ruining Marvel Comics.
How did she ruin marvel comics? I picked up some marvel comics recently and I enjoyed them
What are marcel comics?
@@concernedgamer chinese knockoffs
Good, maybe your mind wont be enslaved by these otherworldly figures anymore.
Now I understand why Marvel Comics is failing.
YAyyy! thank you so much for sharing and creating something great!
I'm confident that people like her will overwhelm and defeat the religious fundamentalists that threaten our world.
I agree - such a positive message. I have to say that I have been blessed to meet people like her. It was an experience and the source of many good discussions ... I think the expression is "don't throw the baby with the bath".
Good luck, you literally have billions to defeat.
gtguy181 It's a gradual thing. It won't happen overnight.
Does overnight equate to several centuries, maybe a millennia.
gtguy181 Well, if you put it like that, then yes.
Safe place lol
That evil laugh though :p
It is truly heroic for me as I heard your idea. I want to battle for my true and authentic self, too. Thanks for your TED Talk! I like it:)
Yes, cling to the identifications of the otherworldly, vainly attempt happiness.
This is the lady ruining marvel comics
correction one of MANY that work at marvel that are ruining it.
You are ruining comics for yourself for this mentality.
And the MCU
agreed. i won't be surprised if marvel goes bankrupt again lol.
Awww man she's on nova and new warriors too! I love it!
ms marvelsucks
Good thing they got rid of the down vote, if memory serves this one didnt do too well
All I'm thinking after listening to this woman is goodbye Marvel comics.
Three years later and have to admit - you called it! Heard she recently got fired.
Such a great talk, I love it!
This comment did not age well.
perfect!!!
I thought artists were supposed to be creative? You want more heros of race, religion or color and then create new ones. Stop being lazy and stealing existing characters and reminding them to your needs.
Uhhhhhh she literally did create her own?
Who was stolen.
That would require talent! Stop making sense!
@@SaiyanQuad92 Quit trolling!
@@hellogoodbye4061 What
Sana!! You're amazing. :) Such a heartwarming and incredibly inspirational talk!!!
Ruined Marvel comics before eventually being fired....um, not what one would term "amazing."
Woah She's Awesome!
Excellent talk! Thank you for helping to shed light on those of us out there not being represented normally in media.
Nice video Essad!
This is so great! I'm so glad I had the chance to work for her
you are marvelous and inteligent and roomodel lot of kid here in America mashallah may Allah bless you
Sana, you are my new hero! :p
Ugh, someone get me a bucket STAT!
I'm so glad I've watched this.
You wasted 15 minutes of your life that you will never get back. Sad.
Nope
This is a really important talk. I'm gonna make sure to share this with my whole class.
Sorry Sana, Miss Marvel is not the new spiderman. Miss Marvel comics sell around 14,000 a month, while spider man sells 60,000 You are one of the main reasons that Marvel comics sales have never been lower. You lost your main audience, the hardcore fans, because you put one sided politics before good characters and story telling. We love theese characters more than you do, and it shows in every way. Keep putting your politics and your agendas before good stories that people love, you have destroyed Marvel comics, and the MCU is on its way.
Damm all these desperate mad men in the comments , get a life
Representation for one is a step forward for everyone.
And 20 steps back.
Thank you so much for ruining one of my favorite comic book publishers!
How?
@Esben M Like? There's good ones out there. Immortal Hulk, Avengers, Ms Marvel, Champions, Avengers No Road Home, West Coast Avengers, The Amazing Spider Man, Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man, Punisher, etc
@Esben M What marvel comics have you read recently. I think I named some good ones imo
Sana is such a great role model for women in comics. I love the Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel comics. I hope to be reading them for a long time.
I dont believe you've ever read them.
how man reboots has it been for Ms. Marvel now?
Ms. Marvel has been rebooted 12 times and is dead in the water and Sana has been fired from Marvel. Your comment here did not age well.
Thanks for ruining the comics! And as your recent sales have shown us when you go woke you go broke! thank God you have no say over the MCU!
What's been ruined
What was ruined? There's good comics out there. Ms Marvel, Champions, Punisher, Avengers, Amazing Spider Man, Avengers No Road Home, West Coast Avengers, Immortal Hulk, etc
Who gave this a thumbs up? smh
@@ricardoramirez9510 Which comment? Mine?
@@SaiyanQuad92 Avader5's original comment. Not yours.
Sana is legit. All her books are good reads (I'm sure Wacker helped a bit).
BAAAAAAAAAAWSE!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty sure she wasn't popular back in HS, neither today
Get WOKE go BROKE...
Minority hire is moving up! G Willow Wilson, not so much.
This woman is wonderful. Her story is great. Who knew an editor could be such a rock star?
I'm gonna marry Sana someday just you all watch
+Bong Rip Hello, White Knight.
Go home. You're high.
+Bryan Asare Hello, Second White Knight.
she has a boyfriend ya'know
+Bong Rip acuatlly, i think she like my type too. but she was already has a boyfriend.
This speech makes me VERY excited for the new direction at Marvel. The old white men have FAILED this industry, and a new regime is taking over. I love it.
The industry hasn't been old white men for decades. Read some comics.
Sean Thomas The industry almost completely dominated by white men. I read more comics than you AND my dad can kick your dad's ass.
ComicBookSyndicate Ive read more comics in the last year than you've read in your life. Most things in the USA (apart from NBA and NFL) are dominated by white men. Theres more white men in American than any other type. Doh.
Then you don't read enough to understand what's going on. Read more, I guess!
ComicBookSyndicate I live in the world. So I can even more than read.
This is the woman who was fired (allegedly) for misconduct?
Seems so.....