Absolutely Awful - Episode 5 - Dreadnought Improvement Project French Campaign
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ย. 2024
- War! The Chinese Empire dares to compare itself to mighty France! This may not have been a good idea because once the crews get over laughing at the terrible ships the Chinese Navy has they can get to work sinking them.
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It seems to me that Dreadnought Improvement Project has made pre-1910 combat a bit more tolerable. :)
Oh massively! It’s much more fun now :)
- Sir, we lost all our squadron!
- All the cruisers and the battleship ? Dear god, what did they have?
- Three ships, sir. And a destroyer.
- Have we sunk something?
- Nothing, sir. They didn't lose a single ship.
- Great Scott, man ! Surely, one their battleship must go to drydock for repair.
- I'm sorry, sir, I was not clear enough. It's not that we didn't sink any of their ships ; we didn't *damage* them.
- Dude, whaaaat ?! Even the battleships ?
- They didn't have any.
- But... but you said they had three...
- Again, sorry sir, not clear enough. I said "three ships and a destroyer". Those ships were light cruisers.
- WHAT THE FRACK ?!
Underrated dialog
In world of tanks announcer
Voice “ we didn’t even scratch them”
*What the FRENCH?
A ligh Cruiser exchanging broadsides with a battleship, the balls in the ship's crew and captain are big 🥚🥚🥚🥚
to be fair they were about the same tonnage.
maybe the french sailors mistook it for an ugly uparmed cruiser.
@@uteriel282 I mean, if it looks like a duck...
And by duck I mean an ugly, brittle, slapdash amalgamation of guns and wood-backed armor plate that probably broke out of a scrapyard, then yeah.
@@uteriel282Annnd they lost their ship for that. Should've stayed more than a klick away. The Chinese can't hit shit lol
Mistral's captain must still think navys do boarding actions. Hasn't got the hang of the new type of warfare.
As the poor merchantmen get blown apart, I’d like to imagine the smooth jazz was playing through their ships.
For her brave (more or less) one up fight against a battleship, I think you should always keep a ship (preferably a CL) on the lists named NM D'Estrées a là the Royal Manticoran Navy.
I'm imagining the Chinese thinking they've been fighting French BBs. Going to be in for a nasty surprise when the French fleet arrives.
Those battleships are true chinesium....
Also, when you're talking about sneaking your destroyers around, I, for some reason, have the Pink Panther theme play in my head
Nice to see some combat, and well done by the French, no white flags or baguettes thrown at the enemy! Vive la France!! 🇨🇵
*EDIT* perhaps I spoke too soon, the French Admiral seemed to get far too complacent in that final battle and lost several ships to poor maneuver orders. Oh well
21:00: I'm not with my records right one but Henri IV is the ship the Portuguese reneged on.
I think you’re right
When you want to turn to avoid a torpedo, you need to slow down your ship ! Or even stop it !
My eyes just barfed looking at the ship on the thumbnail
That battleship is literally slower than HMS warrior. Amazing.
I have donned my outrageous french accent and twirly moustache just to watch this series. Vive la France!
25:24: Early game fun, flash fires and torpedoing big ships. Late game fun massive battles.
44:24 The Captain of the Mistral "Hey, hey, hey. guys. I think it would be funny if we rammed the torpedo boat!" "Yes, hic, sir..." "Captain, perhaps we should all put away the cognac now?" "Spoilsport!"
"it's a destoyer, we are here to destroy at all cost!"
That wee little cruiser you lost was amazing ? Kind of ok really considering what they dish out and how much they can take despite being glorified armoured destroyers . Like next time i play France im making a million of them
Honestly it would be nice to see cruiser rules honored in this game while transports are unarmed. Just have them count as destroyed automatically at the end of a battle once they lose their escort to show them being sunk once the crews were removed or taken as prize ships.
Great feature idea!
@BrotherMunro
Maybe if the winning side has a certain tonnage, it fully captures them and they count towards that nation's transports, and otherwise it just evacuates and scuttles them?
44:23: OMGMA, friendly fire. A 155mm just hit Mistral.
The D’Estrées and her crew will now be immortalized as legends in the Munro French Navy and on this channel for their heroic actions of standing up to a battleship, albeit a bad battleship but a battleship nonetheless and being successful in doing so!🫡
42:37: Forfait of the Cosmao class and we would like to see the fleet/port dispositions of them please.
Ah yes the Chinese using their famous "potato" class Battleships 😂
I've been itching to see how your Jabba sail barges would perform in action, and I expect you're well-pleased with the results so far. I know you didn't used to be a fan of the early game, but one of my fondest memories as a viewer was an 1890s slugfest you did a year or two ago, where one of your ships chased its opponent around the ocean for what seemed like hours. Your guns, even when they hit, had no effect, and you were relying on short range torpedoes. Every time you made a turn you'd lose way, and it took forever to work back up to speed and try to force the enemy to turn so you could catch back up again. It was both hilariously slow going and nail-biting, and while we didn't get the same thing here (presumably because you've had a few years to get some upgrades in) there were shades of that sense of close-in running up to your enemy and throwing potatoes at each other. Great stuff.
One of the very happy consequences of the mod is that the 1890’s gameplay is actually really fun (I know the campaign has gone past that period already but I’ve done a fair bit of custom battle testing)
@@BrotherMunro It's clear the mod has transformed the game.
Can't wait for the french dreadnought and the french campaign is off to a great start
Those Chinese "battleships" are so bloody horrible, I love them!
It's called a RUDDER. Every time you use it the torpedoes miss.
Battle of the Taiwan Strait
Le Républicain Provence, Marseille
MCMV, 3 August 1905
The Cosmao class Croiseur Léger Marseillaise from the Fort Bayard Station navale in Kwang-Chou-Wan joined her station mate the Tricolore class Croiseur Léger Tage and Tage’s class sister Duquesne from the Saigon Station navale in Cochinchina, and the Aspirant Herber class Destroyer torpilleur Sape from the Haiphong Station navale in Tonkin on a patrol of the Taiwan Strait. This was too much even for the Chinese Republic Navy, and the Hife class battleship Weisheng, which was only 700 tons greater displacement that Marseillaise, the Shaanix class armored cruisers Anhui and the class lead Shaanxi, and three Zouchange class protected cruisers Yueyang, Xinyi, and Yulin, sortied to drive the French warships out of their territorial waters.
Tage was leading Duquesne and Marseillaise with Sape screening when they spotted the funnel smoke of a half dozen ships to the north-east. Sape was sent forward to scout the incoming ships while Tage closed at her 21 knot speed. The first ship sighted was Yulin, Zoucheng 1891 refit with her six funnels. Tage turned west, hoping the Chinese would feed their lighter ships into her broadsides first without armored cruiser support. Having sighted the enemy van, Sape was pulled back for the moment. Tage and her battle line pumped 155mm shells into Yulin, starting fires and causing flooding. The flooding spread throughout the aft of the ship and Yulin fell back. The unrefitted Yueyang was up next. Under fire for only minutes, Yueyang sank with all but 5 of her 237 man crew.
Xinyi was closing, and she was targeted next. Tage led the line in a turn to get away from Weisheng and close on Xinyi. Tage crossed the T of the Chinese protected cruisers, piling on hits from her 155mm guns. Already damaged, a few more hits and Yulin sank with 447 of her 465 man crew. With flooding fore and aft Xinyi was not long either, but she kept closing, sinking with 431 of her 465 man crew.
Tage would not head towards the Chinese battleship while Sape crept back toward Weisheng for a torpedo run. As soon as Weisheng fired on Sape the destroyer burned smoke to hide her advance. Sape was now to the east of Weisheng and driving her while the Croiseurs Léger were to the west and beginning to take Weisheng under fire. Weisheng tried to break away to the south, setting up the perfect torpedo cross fire, while Shaanxi and Anhui were trying to close on Sape, an objective they were ill designed to achieve. Tage and Sape began to turn south themselves to edge into torpedo range of Weisheng. Sape fired her two 430mm mark 1 torpedoes first, one struck Weisheng on her main belt even as Sape broke away from the battle to reload. Tage’s five port torpedoes missed as Weisheng tried to avoid Sape’s torpedoes, and Duquesne’s five missed because of the turn as well, with Marseillaise’s three were coming in as well, but again Weisheng turned allowed her to miss them.
Tage began a turn to bring her starboard tubes to bear. But even as the battle line moved past Weisheng Marseillaise took a shot with her one aft torpedo tube, hitting Weisheng on her portside as Sape had done. In seconds Weisheng was sunk with 746 of her 789 man crew.
Again Tage led the division in crossing the Chinese cruisers’ T, firing away with her 155mm guns and trying to draw Anhui and Shaanix with their 261mm guns in on them by slowing down the division. As Anhui Tage fired her spread of five torpedoes. However Marseillaise didn’t slow as well as Duquesne and her near collision with Duquesne broke up the formation, ruining the chance to cross torpedo Anhui. Anhui and Shaanix slipped the gap in Tage’s spread. Duquesne however now had an excellent angle on Anhui and launched. Four torpedoes out of five hit, but three were duds. The one good hit was on Anhui’s main belt. Unable to stop the flooding from the one hit, Anhui sank with all but 5 of her 390 man crew. Tage was trying to bring the division around for a torpedo attack on Shaanix when ship simply sank from 155mm fire, taking 378 of her 390 man crew with her.
Sape and Tage picked up the 117 Chinese survivors while Marseillaise took care of her light damage and one casualty and Duquesne to her six casualties.
The Flotte de Brest had just stopped to coal at Djibouti.
Finally some action! glad to see it munro keep up the good work
In the spirit of the french quad turrets, will there be a theme later of attempting to have quad turreted ships as often as possible? Seems like a cool nod
Love it, game AI Chinese ships designed to save on Munro ammunition expenditure...just priceless! .
The absolute terror that will be caused when the Chinese meet the French Battleships.
There should be a option for the merchant ships to surrender when they escort is destroyed and they had no chance to escape.
The Flotte de Brest Sails
Le Républicain Provence, Marseille
MCMV, 28 June 1905
While its preparations were kept secret it’s impossible to miss the Flotte de Brest sailing from their Base navale principale. Consisting of six Cuirassés de 1er Rang class, The Bretagne, lead of her Cuirassé de 1er Rang class, the Lyon, lead of her class, the Gaulois class Surveillante, the Démocratie class Requin, the Normandie, lead of her class, and the Indomptable, lead of her class, along with the Tonnere class Croiseur Cuirassés Chanzy, the Troude class Frégate Cassard, and the Aspirant Herber class Destroyer torpilleur Commandant Lucas. Their destination and mission have not been announced.
I am really looking forward to trying a playthrough with your mod :)
The AI designs some crazy stuff ....... Then you see what it designs for China and can't help but chuckle
17.42. I do believe that first batch of toredoes hit the cruiser behind [ at least 1 ] at the same time the second batch hit with one. Otherwise that flooding was awful fast.
There's this weird interaction I've been experiencing, I'm playing with the Naval Arms Race mod, might have something to do with it, might not, but it honestly almost feels like an exploit.
If there's 2 enemy ships lined up and you target the one hiding behind the other one, the closer ship will attract every single shell and get hit like crazy even though such accuracy wouldn't normally be possible if you were targeting the ship normally to begin with.
If you exploit this you can absolutely wreck the enemy ships, especially in the early years where everything is inaccurate
That can happen in vanilla and my own mod, though I haven’t noticed it being particularly bad lately
Seen it happen. recommend the tactic. I suspect the game doesn't figure in the hull's resistance on accidental hits.
7:04: Yes, it's a mite-e cruiser squadron.
25:15 ah, the Chinese space program got off to an extremely early start
8:06: Sape by 7 knots, yes.
I wonder how the Gaulois ships will handle against… well anything
Those Chinese battleships are not very practical but they sure do look cool! lol
Battle of Chinchew
Le Républicain Provence, Marseille
MCMV, 19 August 1905
Two Croiseurs Léger, the Cosmao class Forfait from the Fort Bayard Station navale in Kwang-Chou-Wan and the Tricolore class Jean Bart from the Cam Ranh Bay Station navale in Annam were joined by two Aspirant Herber class Destroyers torpilleur, the Francis Garnier from the Fort Bayard Station and the Mistral from the Haiphong Station navale in Tonkin, in a commerce raid up the coast of China towards Chinchew. They found seven Cixi class 4.6 thousand ton 25 manned unarmed Navires de transport escorted by three Shaanxi class Croiseurs cuirasses, the 1890 refit Jingsu and the unrefitted Fujian and Yunnan, two Zoucheng class Croiseurs Léger, the 1891 refit Chaozhou and the unrefitted Haimen, along with two Y-1 class Torpilleurs, the Y-11 and the Y-20.
To get in close to Chinchew the Capitaine de frigate of Forfait waited for fog and overcast before closing. This allowed him to spot the funnel smoke of a dozen ships to the north-west coming out of Chinchew without them immediately spotting him. Jean Bart led Forfait in the Croiseurs division while Francis Garnier led Mistral in the Destroyers division. They both headed towards the funnel smoke. Jean Bart sighted the first two Chinese ships, Y-20 and the Y-11, and opened fire. Y-20 took hits from 155mm and 80mm guns, with her conning tower damaged. This drove her off but Mistral got badly out of formation and came up on Y-11, invoking a torpedo launch. The torpedo hit but it was a dud. However Mistral, while trying to avoid the torpedo, ended up Y-11 ram her. Y-11 came off the worse for the ram but two 155mm shells meant for Y-11 hit Mistral, doing serious damage fore and aft. The Capitaine de corvette of Mistral was ordered to return to Haiphong Station navale to explain his 8 crew losses. The board of inquiry is ongoing at this moment.
Francis Garnier turned hard to reengage V-20. Jean Bart and Forfait were also turning head back towards the battle and firing on V-20. The Chinese Croiseurs cuirasses where closing on Jean Bart. Finally Francis Garnier sank V-20 with all 19 of her crew.
Jean Bart was turning away from the Chinese Croiseurs cuirasses, not willing to head directly at them. She sank Y-11 with one survivor. Jean Bart now targeted Haimen, just two kilometers off her starboard bow. Francis Garnier crossed behind Forfait towards the gap between Haimen and the Croiseurs cuirasses. However this put her right in the path of a torpedo spread from Haimen, One was a dud but the other hit on her amidships. Haimen sank with 231 of her 237 man crew as Francis Garnier took flooding in her engineering spaces losing her #3 engine. Francis Garnier couldn’t get clear because she was in the arc of fire from the Chinese Croiseurs cuirasses, taking a torpedo from Jingsu that shattered her strained bulkhead and spreading the flooding forward. She lost #2 engine.
Jean Bart and Forfait were engaging Chaozhou meanwhile and finally sank her with 421 of her 465 man crew. This didn’t help Francis Garnier who was taking more firs from the Chinese Croiseurs cuirasses and lost engine #1. With no auxiliary power Francis Garnier was dead in the water. She sank with just 9 of her crew as the other 86 abandoned ship as a torpedo from Yunnan came streaking in.
Jean Bart turned to cross the T of the Chinese Croiseurs cuirasses, launching torpedoes at Yunnan. Four of her five torpedoes hit, three on the fore belt and one on the main belt. Yunnan’s #1 and #2 engines were disabled. She quickly flooded forward of her amidships with over 40 casualties reported. Forfait launched her forward torpedo at Yunnan as well. As Forfait’s torpedo streaked in Yunnan launched hers at Jean Bart. Yunnan sank with 254 of her 237 man crew before seeing if her torpedoes struck Jean Bart.
Jean Bart took one torpedo on her main belt, losing 14 men. Jean Bart was ordered to withdraw. Now the battle was between Forfait against Jingsu and Fujian. Forfait quickly began to hit Jingsu with her 155mm guns, putting most shells through her 112.5mm compound armor. Jingsu was flooding fore and aft, with over 50 casualties. Jingsu sank with 367 of her 390 man crew.
Forfait now engaged Fujian, but the range was longer and the hits were not penetrating, so Forfait tried a torpedo launch. Two hit one on the main belt disabling #3 engine and one on the aft belt disabling Fujian’s steering gear. Then Fujian lost her 261.6mm powder magazine, and her aft twin main turret blew into the air on a column of blue flame. This triggered her fore twin main turret, which also flew away.
Rather than chasing the convoy, now well out of sight and likely back in Chinchew, Forfait recalled Jean Bart and Mistral to pick up survivors. There were 86 men rescued from Francis Garnier and 93 Chinese sailors found.
speaking of weird gun calipers 51mm in your cosmao-class.
Miss clicked you may had.
That pretty much is his much preferred 2" gun.
Can't help thinking those impact angles aren't going to help the torpdeo dud rate. They're not exactly likely to be running magnetic detonators at this date, and contact detonators generally didn't like working at
Degree does increase dud chance in the game already, it just doesn’t differentiate between that kind of dud and the regular kind in the logs or UI
Fleet list the Cosmao class so I can get the right navale stations please.
Why not slow down and turn instead of just turning when avoiding torpedoes?
You have drednought 1 unlocked I think
I do I’m just waiting until the previous class are finished, it’s a slightly more realistic way of playing but also it means the builds are spaced out a bit more
@@BrotherMunro Waiting for Krupp as well. Of course if you research the technique first we should name it for some French inventor.
putting DD in the middle of enemy formation is a weird strat to say the least 🙄
You should research better barrettes
Hi, I've been having crashes on bootup after installing the mod - looking through Nexus mod pages and Game-labs forum, but to no avail.
Is it normal to have crashes when you have uninstalled the game as well as the mod, then reinstalled the game along with the mod?
As in a crash to desktop? No that’s not normal at all
Look the Philippines has oil and a crapy army rating know is the time before thers grab it
17:00: Marseillaise is really not good at slowing down.
You know what i am going to say... :D
6:07
Actually, it is pronounced as Mar-say.
Then why is it spelt differently to the town? Ugh I thought French was more evolved than English in that regard 😂
Well, look up the pronunciations on Google just in case.
@@BrotherMunro He's talking rubbish, I'm french and your pronunciation was pretty good, it's named Marseillaise after the French National Anthem, not "Marseille" for the town. Anyway awesome video :)
Being a Chinese American the names of the ships don’t make sense. Some do most don’t. It really tickles me when ur trying to pronounce those names as an English.
Oh I’m keenly aware I’m butchering the pronunciation but I have no idea how to say words properly unless I’ve heard them
@@BrotherMunro Surprisingly Google translate does a pretty damn good job it’s like 85 to 90% there. As a matter of fact when I took Chinese at college my prof had the beginners use google translate for pronunciation it’s close enough so they can get the tone right. People like me can’t use for we are more advanced that using google translate is just stupid